The guest is Timothy Shenk and his book is called Realigners. Not including these things in the description is pretty annoying.
@Iconolaste
Жыл бұрын
Thanks I was looking for its name and the book’s title
@MWhaleK
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@MMAli-rq8kd
Жыл бұрын
You're right ! They always forget that in these clips, because it was "mentioned" in the full show!
@ramblinrandal
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I was scanning for this info in the included text and it no where to be found. Annoying indeed.
@billyconnelly3568
Жыл бұрын
I agree, it is annoying. I'd be a little irked if I were the guest.
@philliphessel6788
Жыл бұрын
Yes, the fundamental problem with the premise of a natural aristocracy is how to identify it. The trend has been toward a self-selecting plutocracy defined not by goodness or wisdom, but by Greed (classically one of the Seven Deadly Sins).
@MWhaleK
Жыл бұрын
Yup! That the same problem a Meritocracy has, What to mean by merit and how do measure it?
@xelasomar4614
Жыл бұрын
Then there's the question of how "natural" is this aristocracy given their ability to change the rules to benefit them.
@MWhaleK
Жыл бұрын
Another thing that tends to be left out of the official history is Benjamin Franklin's Albany Plan (a forerunner to the Articles of Confederation and the United States Constitution) as well as the fact that Franklin spent a lot of time with time among the Iroquois studying how the Haudenosaunee or Iroquois League of Five Nations worked before drafting his Albany Plan.
@billyconnelly3568
Жыл бұрын
At the end of the day, whatever democracy was going to be forged was going to be deployed only to the extent that it rationalized the rule of the ruling class.
@chunky539
Жыл бұрын
Madison and Jefferson are merciless.
@danielray7965
Жыл бұрын
Well, hate the sin love the sinner.
@billyconnelly3568
Жыл бұрын
@@danielray7965 what?
@danielray7965
Жыл бұрын
@@billyconnelly3568 It's a Hamilton reference. Burr says that "Madison and Jefferson are merciless", and that's Hamilton's reply.
@billyconnelly3568
Жыл бұрын
@@danielray7965 Thanks
@jaybee4118
Жыл бұрын
I understand these are clips from the longer show, one I can’t listen to often as it’s on in the fairly hours of the morning for me (in NZ), but I’d like to know who is speaking and in this case what the book is. You’ve included a description, but not the name of the speaker or the book. Can you please include that in the description? :)
@sempressfi
Жыл бұрын
It's also difficult to go through the list of lives since the thumbnails for them don't always show whoever is in the clip lol That being said, I just did that and luckily was able to find this episode (was the Keystone Oil Spill titled one from December)! The guest is professor and author Timothy Shenk 😊 will go double check the name of the book
@sempressfi
Жыл бұрын
Woot, got it - "Realigners: Partisan Hacks, Political Visionaries, and the Struggle to Rule American Democracy"
@carlkolchak4437
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Jay! Amazing!
@carlkolchak4437
Жыл бұрын
@@sempressfi Thank you!
@basedtruthpiller7140
Жыл бұрын
Hey guys, how many times has Sam Seder said tHe wAlls aRe cloSing iN?
@astamilio
Жыл бұрын
Is the title a joke? You had a historian on talking about things that are not controversial among historians.
@nicholas4727
Жыл бұрын
This guy is an outlier among historians. Many historians are still conservative minded. So get your panties out of a bunch and think a little bit.
@TeenTabernacle
Жыл бұрын
The history hits of late are awesome! Much appreciated.
@dc7370
Жыл бұрын
we ended up with the world's biggest prison population & spreading infrastructure destruction
@billyconnelly3568
Жыл бұрын
The problem with mainstream history is it starts from the premise that the USA is fucking amazing in all ways and then purports to explain why that came to be.
@pennycheshire5608
Жыл бұрын
Ya’ll need to include the author/speaker’s info in this clip! I cannot find the full interview on the main page…
@advisorrook
Жыл бұрын
Timothy Shenk. "Realigners: Partisan Hacks, Political Visionaries, and the Struggle to Rule American Democracy"
@1000huzzahs
Жыл бұрын
"HIstorians Won't Tell You" [Has historian on show that immediately tells you] Maybe they could change it to "Broadway musicals won't tell you"
@advisorrook
Жыл бұрын
Speaking as a historian, we are still overall a very conservative group of people. That one historian is now telling you means that all the historians before now wouldn't.
@Junebug89
Жыл бұрын
@@advisorrook Wait, really? I would've thought historians are pretty progressive, given they could see the long history of conservatism's failures and the progress made by, well, progressives.
@advisorrook
Жыл бұрын
@Junebug89 I could give a whole lecture on this lol. Up until the 60s/70s, conservatives had a stranglehold on the profession. Remember how your initial history education went? How you had to memorize the narrative that they gave you? The theory was "you have to KNOW history before you can DO" history, and that required students to buy into the official, established narrative before they got into the profession. And, since conservatives were in control of the profession, that also made it very easy for them to shut down anyone who didn't toe the line. On top of that, conservative historians only explore/value sources that reinforce their accepted narratives, such as official government documents and press releases, etc. They don't typically choose to explore sources that contradict their ideals. All of that combines to "we're STILL trying to excise narrow-mindedness from the profession."
@binmcbin1890
Жыл бұрын
Books on "glorious" wars, "discovering" new worlds and "births" of nations sell better than books telling you your ancestors committed genocide
@benjamintrevino325
Жыл бұрын
Actually, the headline should be: The side of Jefferson and Madison you don't know because you don't read enough books.
@cogito919
Жыл бұрын
Yeah Hamilton was not great, especially how he started and failed to ease the Whiskey Rebellion. The other thing that always bugged me about most of the original Federalists, including Hamilton, was how they agreed to ratify the constitution without including the Bill of Rights, despite constant urging by anti-Federalists like Jefferson and Dickinson.
@minty2022
Жыл бұрын
emma is such a skillful interviewer. her questions are always on point. queen of interview prep
@jackmerrideww
Жыл бұрын
Yes. Shes great when shes prepared and reading from a script. Its the off script moments that are a problem.
@technologic21
Жыл бұрын
Vile exchanges have a long history in the US. "So seditious, so prostitute a character,” Hamilton wrote of Jefferson. “A man whose history...is a tissue of machinations against the liberty of the country,” Jefferson replied in publication in 1792.
@Theoriginialdonguillory
Жыл бұрын
Awesome interview.👍🏾
@brucehunter8235
Жыл бұрын
I knew that about Madison, Chomsky has been talking about it for decades.
@basedtruthpiller7140
Жыл бұрын
Noam Chomsky publicly endorsed Donald J Trump.
@oxman5571
Жыл бұрын
"Me so very American. Me love downtown Berlin in heart of Alabama." -- Alabama "Man."
@soulknife20
Жыл бұрын
@@basedtruthpiller7140 No one cares
@philliphessel6788
Жыл бұрын
Basedtruthpiller, where and when did Chomsky publicly endorse Trump? I can’t find that, but I do find him calling Trump “the worst criminal in human history” (which I think hyperbole) in _The New Yorker_ .
@atticstattic
Жыл бұрын
@@basedtruthpiller7140 For dog-catcher
@JohnVerdon-JohnVerdon
Жыл бұрын
It would be nice to know who your guest speaker is and what the title of the book you talk about is - at least in the notes.
@sempressfi
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. It would also make a ton of sense to link to the full episode. I went through the last couple weeks of liveshows to help us out in the meantime lol The guest is professor & author Timothy Shenk and the book is Realigners: Partisan Hacks, Political Visionaries, and the Struggle to Rule American Democracy
@JohnVerdon-JohnVerdon
Жыл бұрын
@@sempressfi thank you very much :)
@matsal3211
Жыл бұрын
What’s the name of his book?
@advisorrook
Жыл бұрын
Timothy Shenk. "Realigners: Partisan Hacks, Political Visionaries, and the Struggle to Rule American Democracy"
@Tribuneoftheplebs
Жыл бұрын
This is Timothy Shenk and his book is Realigners: Partisan Hacks, American Visonaries, and the Struggle to Rule American Democracy
@billwatt3775
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Emily. Always learning.
@crispyblack8779
Жыл бұрын
Did they ven say the name of the book or the guest’s name? I’d love to read it.
@MMAli-rq8kd
Жыл бұрын
Realigners by Timothy Shenk.
@oxman5571
Жыл бұрын
"Me am super-American. Me think Benjamin Franklin was best Pres-o-dent. Me go to Riyadh, Alabama, all the time for fried lutefisk." -- Alabama "Man"
@toneyingram732
Жыл бұрын
He was Just another lying racist
@toneyingram732
Жыл бұрын
U can't find a good racist unless they are 6 ft deep living close to their God Satan
@afridgetoofar1818
Жыл бұрын
Now that one of the weakest attempts at trolling I’ve ever heard 😂
@afridgetoofar1818
Жыл бұрын
“Me hate Constitution, me like tyranny by majority” -Sederistas
@oxman5571
Жыл бұрын
@@afridgetoofar1818 is such a silly little girl.
@RobinHerzig
Жыл бұрын
What is the name of this historian?? What's the title of his book 📚!? He's great I'm seriously interested - terrible oversight leaving his name out in both the clip + the description 😕
@xofpi
Жыл бұрын
Please add the name of the author and his book in the description! ‘Sa matta you?!
@stevenwymor1398
Жыл бұрын
I have no idea who this author is nor do I know the title of his book. Not even as much as a footer on the screen with his name. For all I know, this guy could be someone’s nephew who did a presentation for his “social studies” class. How about an introduction with a brief listing of his CV? Not even a mention in the description. To quote your buddy Marin, WTF? 🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@advisorrook
Жыл бұрын
Timothy Shenk. "Realigners: Partisan Hacks, Political Visionaries, and the Struggle to Rule American Democracy"
@stevenwymor1398
Жыл бұрын
@@advisorrook thanks, but again, not sure why none of that info was included in the actual interview or at the least, in the description. Seems like a big MR fail.
@nickxoxo
Жыл бұрын
what is the guest's name?
@Niel2760
Жыл бұрын
Tim
@advisorrook
Жыл бұрын
Timothy Shenk. "Realigners: Partisan Hacks, Political Visionaries, and the Struggle to Rule American Democracy"
@bkbland1626
Жыл бұрын
small "R" republicans. Dig it. Aristocracy is wrong, in ALL instances.
@grisflyt
Жыл бұрын
Yes, aristocracy is wrong. Now, lets get rid of it. Better late than never.
@belkyhernandez8281
Жыл бұрын
Progressives are always under the impression they are the only ones who know history because it's all a "big secret". . I just saw another progressive show where they claim nobody knows MLK was a socialist, especially conservatives. It's so sad. Every conservative I ever met distrusts MLK and the civil rights movement precisely because they see it as a socialist plot. Being a socialist is precisely the talking point used to discredit MLK. Progressives need a better understanding of the typical citizen if they ever hope you communicate effectively.
@grisflyt
Жыл бұрын
@@belkyhernandez8281 Sadly, lots of American's, at least up to recently, didn't know MLK was a socialist. It's not mentioned in the schoolbooks. One military leader--black by the way--said MLK would have supported the Iraq War. We are talking about an educated black man who still doesn't have a clue. Why would any rational person support America's cowardly slaughter of women and children in Iraq? That also shows that nothing has fundamentally changed since MLK. Reagan, Buckley and the other racists hated MLK and Civil Rights. But then we are talking extremist ideologues.
@MissterBest
Жыл бұрын
Great piece, Emma
@Henry-em6pb
Жыл бұрын
Condescending jew lectures me on how my forefathers were bad... what else is new? Wake me up when a discussion about Hamilton mentions the foundations of modern nationalism, sovereign federal banking, or protection of domestic manufacturers.
@Dantalliumsolarium
Жыл бұрын
I hadn’t heard of the free soil movement before. God the roots of our system are so corrupt, I don’t get how anyone likes them
@coolidgedollar2154
Жыл бұрын
Because the world at that time was full of much more despotic stuff as a rule, so this seemed at least like a step in the right direction.
@benjamintrevino325
Жыл бұрын
Davy Crockett was a Free Soilist.
@AV57
Жыл бұрын
Great interview, but a misleading title. Historians do posit theories like this. Perhaps, you guys meant that public school history textbooks won’t tell you this.
@CityBoiATX
Жыл бұрын
Here comes the right wing to cry and call MR liars.
@freedomofreligion3248
Жыл бұрын
Ya, I thought as much.
@johnmcgovern5372
Жыл бұрын
I'm British and I already knew this.
@n0tk0sher
Жыл бұрын
We'll make you a medal.
@esta8651
Жыл бұрын
British people know everything.
@advisorrook
Жыл бұрын
Did you say this in the superior British accent as well?
@billyconnelly3568
Жыл бұрын
I think his framing starting especially at 2:45 is very helpful
@nohbuddy1
Жыл бұрын
Who is this guy
@advisorrook
Жыл бұрын
Timothy Shenk. "Realigners: Partisan Hacks, Political Visionaries, and the Struggle to Rule American Democracy"
@billybigwig1154
Жыл бұрын
Love the show. Left is best.
@darkranger116
Жыл бұрын
damn yo this guys based asf
@tylerhackner9731
Жыл бұрын
Interesting
@LennyKaosium
Жыл бұрын
Excellent, interesting conversation. But I missed the authors name and the title of the book you're discussing. At one point the author was referred to as "Tim" I believe. Which isn't quite enough to look into his work.
@advisorrook
Жыл бұрын
Timothy Shenk. "Realigners: Partisan Hacks, Political Visionaries, and the Struggle to Rule American Democracy"
@sakomanlee
Жыл бұрын
Plutarch did pretty well for himself...I guess. However, if he had been lucky enough to have been born in the last 50 years, there is no way Parallel Lives is not a top 3 podcast.
@worldgate989
Жыл бұрын
I feel like when your talking about the democrat or republican party you should indicate 'of the time' because the parties have become the opposite of what they were.
@lilmoe4364
Жыл бұрын
What is the side historians will tell you? I don't even know that
@lisadioguardi5742
Жыл бұрын
This is the worst title for a MR video ever. Historians are people with advanced degrees who have spent decades studying and interpreting historical sources, they have published peer reviewed books and articles, and they are trusted to teach in universities. We always talk about how we believe the experts, and historians are experts. They may disagree: Listen to them present the factual evidence and make their case. Just know the difference between a historian and someone who hasn't been trained and cherry-picks their sources. Telling people not to trust the experts unless they tell you what you want to hear isn't much different from the scientists who go on Fox News to tell you climate change isn't a problem.
@FloatingErgonaut
Жыл бұрын
Historians are not doctors. Different rules at play. That needs to be acknowledged, otherwise you'll afford economists and historians the same amount of trust you afford to doctors and physicists and before you know it the modern understanding of the world is eurocentric and neoliberal
@billyconnelly3568
Жыл бұрын
"Realigners: Partisan Hacks, Political Visionaries, and the Struggle to Rule American Democracy" The guest is professor and author Timothy Shenk
@rorysimpson8716
Жыл бұрын
I dont want to be overly critical, but this lacks context and starts the conversation in the middle
@Admiralty86
Жыл бұрын
If we have approx 25 amendments over approx the last 250 yrs, that's once every 10 years and we're way overdue for some changes and additions and clarifications. The constitution is at the very least outdated.
@celestialnubian
Жыл бұрын
I'm happy when they bring actual intellectuals on the show. I like the main cast ok enough but they all are kinda dim at times, Emma especially.
@Eevcee
Жыл бұрын
I mean the this in the nicest way possible, but I think Emma would benefit greatly from more speech classes. Too many ums and uhs during interviews
@advisorrook
Жыл бұрын
Do you ever give this criticism to Sam?
@sailingthevic3966
Жыл бұрын
She doesn’t want to show up her boss, the umm and aah’s king.
@Phil_Mitchell
Жыл бұрын
Hanging around with Sam Seder for too long is what that is.
@themeanhornet1070
Жыл бұрын
I guess he doesn’t write about “how to improve your benchpress.”
@kenharrison4704
Жыл бұрын
I notice he brought up slavery, never hear y'all talk about slavery that is happening today, just about people that turned to dust centuries ago.
@tomg3285
Жыл бұрын
Bruh this show lives rent free in your head 😂😂
@kenharrison4704
Жыл бұрын
@@tomg3285 I am in the comment section of this and many other shows. I would point out you are in the same comment section as me, why can't I say the same of you ?
@tomg3285
Жыл бұрын
@@kenharrison4704 well u hate watch it 😊 and i love watching it and that makes u a huge loser
@kenharrison4704
Жыл бұрын
@@tomg3285 That makes no sense.
@basedtruthpiller7140
Жыл бұрын
Sam 'tHe wAlls aRe cloSing iN' Seder is DESPERATELY trying to pretend we haven't just found a 4th batch of top secret classified documents.
@Ahov
Жыл бұрын
Damn, you'd be pretty pissed if Biden tried the "Refuse to return" or "I declassified them all" approach like Trump
@oxman5571
Жыл бұрын
"Me have no friends but me like think we is we. Me eat poop again in the heart of downtown Paris, Alabama." -- Alabama "Man."
@alabamaman5994
Жыл бұрын
@@Ahov ....instead of trying to cover it up while going on television and complaining about Trump doing what he 100% knew he was doing? Like that? LOL
@soulknife20
Жыл бұрын
@@alabamaman5994 He covered it up? When?
@alabamaman5994
Жыл бұрын
@@soulknife20 it happened months ago and he tried to hide it.... he even went on television to say how terrible what Trump did.... while 100% knowing it was HE who actually committed the crime he is accusing Trump of committing. Because he was sure it was all going to covered up.
@afridgetoofar1818
Жыл бұрын
The first 30 seconds of this video were incredibly painful to get through. “Uh…um…..uh”
@oxman5571
Жыл бұрын
Get a new joke, Fridgetoofarupyourownass.
@basedtruthpiller7140
Жыл бұрын
Hey Sam 'tHe wAlls aRe cloSing iN' Seder...... who hires a team of lawyers to move office furniture???
@TheRedneckBudha
Жыл бұрын
This title is clickbaity asf guys
@nicholas4727
Жыл бұрын
Jesus you guys are fragile
@MykolasGilbert
Жыл бұрын
Interesting subject, but your guest is really an awful speaker! He talks so fast I though maybe he wanted to get to the end of the conversation because he had to PEE REALLY BAD!!
@billyconnelly3568
Жыл бұрын
Emma's great but she doesn't have command of the issues sufficient to do a great interview here.
@teddymcfail4359
Жыл бұрын
Thomas Jefferson was the hippie of his time.
@GazB85
Жыл бұрын
Do hippies have slaves who they rape and impregnate?
@andrewanderson6121
Жыл бұрын
A hippie who was dressed, transported, and fed by slaves--including in the white house! He was also often in debt and sold slaves (sometimes breaking up families); and sometimes gave slaves as"gifts" to his children.
@alistairmackintosh9412
Жыл бұрын
More like a trust fund lefty.
@matsal3211
Жыл бұрын
What’s the name of his book?
@advisorrook
Жыл бұрын
Timothy Shenk. "Realigners: Partisan Hacks, Political Visionaries, and the Struggle to Rule American Democracy"
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