Bro imagine having to play Sentinels this week and being like "oh wow, their star player is out. This might be easy," and then TenZ is the stand-in
@marchoural454
3 жыл бұрын
LMAOOO
@ysff0710
3 жыл бұрын
@XGamster not funny didn’t laugh
@OneManBackUp
3 жыл бұрын
aged like milk
@yatokenma3558
3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@reakxn
3 жыл бұрын
@@ysff0710 You’re begging for a “Nobody asked.”
@Flexinja
3 жыл бұрын
Whether these allegations are true or not, sexual assault is NEVER okay. I see a lot of people disregarding the accusations because of sintraa's status and that disgusts me. No one knows both sides and it's best to remain unbiased until the investigation is over.
@plasticfilefn
3 жыл бұрын
First
@sn0wfa1l37
3 жыл бұрын
@@plasticfilefn wait where
@souschef6
3 жыл бұрын
yep
@sneakyscreamer
3 жыл бұрын
Due process baby.
@mayukh_bhattacharyya
3 жыл бұрын
True
@Xeoffee
3 жыл бұрын
Video: is talking about sexual assault KZitem: this is kindom hearts 3
@S.A.O.D.A
3 жыл бұрын
And Nomura will somehow find a way to tie it into the plot
@yewweilim714
3 жыл бұрын
@@S.A.O.D.A someone call brian david gilbert for unravelled
@shadmanazad1
3 жыл бұрын
When you say the joke louder and get more reactions
@Xeoffee
3 жыл бұрын
@@shadmanazad1 Yeah if you want likes you just gotta be early and make this joke. Not even mine everyone says this. To be honest I hate that people even find this funny cuz I really don't.
@tforde2143
3 жыл бұрын
@@S.A.O.D.A in reality this isn't Sinatra this is Sinatras Heartless. And his nobody travelled back in time too gather past versions of himself so that he can collect all 13 keys, and unlock Kingdom Hearts to purge the world.
@sollarezzz3714
3 жыл бұрын
I just wanna point out Tenz hit that retweet with Killua. He KNEW he was about to go and fuck some shit up
@smilylaugh_0
3 жыл бұрын
@Tobias do you know who killua is? if not then he is a character from an animem, he is badass and really strong so thats probably what he meant
@dinkletonne
3 жыл бұрын
@Tobias same
@anotherks7297
3 жыл бұрын
Not just Killua, godspeed Killua.
@rileysalter9122
3 жыл бұрын
@@smilylaugh_0 he’s not very strong bro he’s not even top 20 in his verse
@haskee5349
3 жыл бұрын
@Just Some Guy without a Mustache why are you here
@felixsazazelblood
3 жыл бұрын
"Sinatra stop ruining your career." "No, no, I'm so close"
@x_Tojii
3 жыл бұрын
XD
@rio1408
3 жыл бұрын
its fucked up but funny lmao
@manujha1334
3 жыл бұрын
@@rio1408 voila! le dark humour
@mints2ndacc819
3 жыл бұрын
LMAOOOOOOOOOOO
@nigel2065
3 жыл бұрын
wtf i read this when the guy said "No no, Im so close"
@wetcereal1902
3 жыл бұрын
Sentinels Tenz. The name I’ve never would’ve expected EVER
@ackiii3611
3 жыл бұрын
wat happened?
@jahil9778
3 жыл бұрын
Why?
@lnnerchaos
3 жыл бұрын
C9 loans TenZ contract to Sentinels til further notice.
@sungjinwoo5008
3 жыл бұрын
@@lnnerchaos where'd you get the source bro?
@nokename
3 жыл бұрын
@@sungjinwoo5008 the video
@lauramacuer7902
3 жыл бұрын
im glad they've changed the music when discussing these topics from the goofy don't @ me song
@Senzawa69
3 жыл бұрын
ikr
@Tantooo
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@BuffSocialSkills
3 жыл бұрын
They have for awhile when doing more sensitive topics.
@mr.bubbles8351
3 жыл бұрын
The old music was fine
@BuffSocialSkills
3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.bubbles8351 I think she meant as it was upbeat n stuff, would have made it ridiculous and annoying to watch. For example, playing dubstep at a funeral.
@TheSunIsMyDestroyer
3 жыл бұрын
this is not the sinatraa highlights i was looking for
@DailyFunFacts23608
3 жыл бұрын
😭😭😭😭😭😭
@narc440
2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@amirhassan7887
3 жыл бұрын
Am i the only one impressed by sentinels rn? They literally picked up TENZ in less than 2 days.
@kade4k
3 жыл бұрын
no, when he was taking a “break” he was most likely finding another org
@jehoons2001
3 жыл бұрын
They got tenz??? Is it temporary?
@labakdas6979
3 жыл бұрын
@@jehoons2001 they got him on loan for the major
@jehoons2001
3 жыл бұрын
@@labakdas6979 ah okay
@uuuuuuumagnetic
3 жыл бұрын
It could be permanent because he changed all his social media bio to SEN. Update: it's a loan. He is changing his bio because theres a rule that you can only represent 1 team at a time while competing in Masters.
@dw1234.3
3 жыл бұрын
Title: Allegations against a VALORANT player Description: Kingdom Hearts III
@Highsie5k
3 жыл бұрын
bruh i found this vid when i was scrolling on the gaming category
@lovecoloredmasterspark
3 жыл бұрын
*serious video* KZitem: *k i n g d o m h e a r t s III*
@howardtheduck5392
3 жыл бұрын
no cap the kingdom hearts gameplay was pretty good bro
@shqcker4574
3 жыл бұрын
This kingdom hearts gameplay was kinda fire ngl
@zey7469
3 жыл бұрын
hotel : trivago
@Xenafps
3 жыл бұрын
anyone else think that the commentator looks like jack harlows long lost twin
@mohammadahmed1290
3 жыл бұрын
Lol lmfao I can see it now
@Tantooo
3 жыл бұрын
Can't not see that now
@alisquin315
3 жыл бұрын
Give or take a couple big macs
@bruhh7332
3 жыл бұрын
whats poppin?
@AreoSky
3 жыл бұрын
He look like he belong in Hogwarts
@dustybarks
3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you guys covering such serious and important topics in the gaming world.
@kyotorii
3 жыл бұрын
This is the best kingdom of hearts content ever
@luukvanoijen7082
3 жыл бұрын
Never knew kingdom hearts could be so cool
@nashin0ki927
3 жыл бұрын
Wait, why is so many people referencing kingdom hearts?
@kosherre6243
3 жыл бұрын
@@nashin0ki927 check the desciption
@i_thicboi0852
3 жыл бұрын
@@luukvanoijen7082 yooo wtf "5 hours ago" when the comment you replied to is 4 hours ago? is youtube high wtf
@luukvanoijen7082
3 жыл бұрын
@@i_thicboi0852 nah, its because you had already loaded the original comment, and then a few hours later opened the replies, so the replies had the right timestamp, but the original comment still had the timestamp from when you loaded it first
@adnngyn
3 жыл бұрын
Sinatraa looking at the allegations and evidence: “AH SHEEEEEEEEEESH”
@sdk2571
3 жыл бұрын
Sheeesh man
@hazard9528
3 жыл бұрын
Im dying
@maxim6088
3 жыл бұрын
His defense will be calling the judge a virgin
@EksoCDH
3 жыл бұрын
@@maxim6088 😂
@matthijsoverwatch5551
3 жыл бұрын
BRO HAHAHAHHA!!! YOU CANT SAY THAT LOL!!! THIS IS THE WRONG PLACE FOR THIS KIND OF HUMOR! BUT IM FUCKING DYING OF LAUGHTER ANYWAYS HAHAHAHAHA
@lucaszhang550
3 жыл бұрын
myth: talking about serious stuff regarding sexual abuse some guy in his chat: wHaT hEaDpHoNeS aRe yOu UsInG
@shahwashere
3 жыл бұрын
and? the guy in his chat is not here for the sexual abuse he’s talking abt lol
@lucaszhang550
3 жыл бұрын
@@shahwashere just wanted to point it out cuz it was low key funny lol
@saulgoodman767
3 жыл бұрын
@@shahwashere arent u that guy that wrote it lol
@Sub2PhantomFPS
3 жыл бұрын
He's curious
@lucaszhang550
3 жыл бұрын
@@Sub2PhantomFPS supposed to be a joke
@JmzLmr
3 жыл бұрын
Sinatraa: And now, the end is near...
@paperbagblossom
3 жыл бұрын
Clever
@JacobLeex
3 жыл бұрын
almost swooshed past me
@AsianKid619
3 жыл бұрын
this is good
@markaiser4972
3 жыл бұрын
haha you got me there
@lovecoloredmasterspark
3 жыл бұрын
lmaoo
@yoochanee
3 жыл бұрын
“SHEEESH I’m sorry y’all, especially sorry to my ex, but y’all should catch the stream at 4”- sinatraa’s apology
@nichipezo9522
3 жыл бұрын
what u even talking about, read the twitlong
@derpzthechicken
3 жыл бұрын
lmao.
@QuadsAPaloma
3 жыл бұрын
💀💀💀
@drsquirrel123
3 жыл бұрын
Stolen
@Bj-vd2tp
3 жыл бұрын
@@yoochanee his reply is probably the smartest way to go about it. Dont drag it into public + resolve everything with attorneys in private. That guy is smart
@jakevelasco3318
3 жыл бұрын
Oh so that's why tenz is playing for sentinels.
@wee5207
3 жыл бұрын
Same reason as well? Nice.
@shinefake48
3 жыл бұрын
Yea they needed one more for masters and tenz seemed to be the best choice since he was off from major to take a “break”
@jakevelasco3318
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah he's loaned by C9 right?
@serenalaurence1492
3 жыл бұрын
your dp freaked me out man why
@gacruxskuzi
3 жыл бұрын
@@serenalaurence1492 😂
@akuma8811
3 жыл бұрын
Sentiniels: All right all right TenZ is playing for us Wardell: **NO SHOT**
@alexandrehaikal9814
3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to point out that the editing was spot on. The background music was not as lighthearted as always has been, because the subject in discussion was not at all lighthearted. Great video, despite the bad news.
@theScore_Colten
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. These stories are always really tough to work on, having to be surrounded by all of the info. The story is important and we wanted to make sure it got out there.
@Andolina12
3 жыл бұрын
The title caught my attention
@whatthef-9772
3 жыл бұрын
True
@C0astDelta
3 жыл бұрын
I was shocked. How many people are hiding shit man. It's freaking me out a little.
@BW0413
3 жыл бұрын
@@C0astDelta everyone has secrets. Doesn’t matter the person, your not human if you don’t have secrets
@baldman8112
3 жыл бұрын
same
@baldman8112
3 жыл бұрын
Although I have seen the allegations at 3 AM after I woke up
@jayvaava
3 жыл бұрын
I can predict “no no I’m close” is gonna be a quote for a Long time
@h4ste371
3 жыл бұрын
yeah! He was sooo close maaan....!
@zaixoxoo
3 жыл бұрын
that isnt sth to joke abt
@jenesaispas5082
3 жыл бұрын
Nah not really. That's just weird and insensitive
@ungamer6241
3 жыл бұрын
@@zaixoxoo it is
@yaninchadet5931
3 жыл бұрын
@@ungamer6241 u good bro?
@HajiIe
3 жыл бұрын
Damn he’s just casually flexing his jordans in the backround....
@secretmessage9130
3 жыл бұрын
I know there so clean
@nicolinrucker5181
3 жыл бұрын
"there's an ongoing investigation" "here's the whole story" one of these two things is untrue.
@sylvaindavis5203
3 жыл бұрын
whole story available at this point + pretty big part already
@Valkeryu
3 жыл бұрын
being pedantic in this case is kinda pointless. you're definitely wrong either way.
@tameronica
3 жыл бұрын
@Raoul Herskovits Genius
@SahilP2648
3 жыл бұрын
Here's the story so far*
@jdmmustang
3 жыл бұрын
@@sylvaindavis5203 Accept half of it is missing. :l Don’t get me wrong it’s bad, but lets not jump the gun too quick.
@DeadEye123100
3 жыл бұрын
Sinatraa on stream: You're just hating on my success Also Sinatraa:
@lemonke5341
3 жыл бұрын
SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH
@viego29
3 жыл бұрын
@@lemonke5341 i hate snatraa for the SHEEEEESH
@hanszima29
3 жыл бұрын
@@viego29 i find it fucking annoying.
@erickkbat7797
3 жыл бұрын
in the end the crazy is cleoh
@viego29
3 жыл бұрын
@@hanszima29 once in a while, why not, if the situation is right, but yelling sheesh every time makes me wanna punch someone in the face
@Kyzerii
3 жыл бұрын
Sinatraa finna be serving a sentenz soon
@ppurpleduck
3 жыл бұрын
im 5 months late but, lmao.
@IshaanFNM
3 жыл бұрын
@@ppurpleduck 6 month 3 days late but, haha
@AdityaChauhan-qo2yo
3 жыл бұрын
I am 7 months late but lmao
@kobi-wanaenobi7080
3 жыл бұрын
8 months late but, lmao
@rhy3235
3 жыл бұрын
i am a decade but, lmao
@covertmemester6284
3 жыл бұрын
I still can't believe that tenZ is playing for sen, even if it is just for this masters, it's just so insane
@kennethsuwondo2493
3 жыл бұрын
Really?
@datgroove2556
3 жыл бұрын
He might be a permanent member if it ends up working out
@kennethsuwondo2493
3 жыл бұрын
@@datgroove2556 so hes gonna leave C9 and go for the sentinels if it works out?
@pikenote
3 жыл бұрын
@@kennethsuwondo2493 Possibly. It means TenZ atleast has dropped his contract with C9 and accepted Sentinel's contract. This can be expanded if it works out as Sinnatra may be permanently suspended and a replacement is not found. It can also be dropped and TenZ can return to C9 if the terms allow so. It is quite iffy since we don't know the specifics.
@kasyfiladha3216
3 жыл бұрын
@@oohbleeblooblaghblagh9211 i think the rule is that TenZ need to be on one team, means that hes on loan. so he cant be c9 content creator for a moment and need to be only in one organization. so Tenz is under SEN for the moment. not permanently yet
@Dogge_r
3 жыл бұрын
guy: talks about sinatra and sexual abuse a very serious topic youtube: did someone say kingdom hearts 3😎😎
@mr.claggy8244
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t get it lmao
@peacock9473
3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.claggy8244 actually when they first posted the video ,KZitem accidentally added kingdom hearts 3 game in the description of the video 😂
@mrtisfree
3 жыл бұрын
@@peacock9473 no the editor did that
@badrepputation
3 жыл бұрын
@@mrtisfree no
@hellknightf1
3 жыл бұрын
Dam.. Frank Sinatra still alive?
@reasonxaphn1x
3 жыл бұрын
wait really?
@swoosh9241
3 жыл бұрын
@@reasonxaphn1x yea
@gabo5137
3 жыл бұрын
who
@Brahly
3 жыл бұрын
That’s life that’s what all the people say your riding high in April shot down in may.
@aces8481
3 жыл бұрын
Ikr thought he died awhile ago. Fly Me to the Moon is pretty good though
@wagagagaggag
3 жыл бұрын
My man is back now as “West Virginian”
@Flexxy077
3 жыл бұрын
Who is right?
@bunny756
3 жыл бұрын
Is him for sure
@PostHigh1
3 жыл бұрын
Some people were hyped 😂
@Alexriess_77
3 жыл бұрын
Just comes back and this goes to my feed, the internet is cap 🙄
@cahp2634
3 жыл бұрын
Bro the audio clip looks so fake and like if they are playfull. Then she says that she wants to respect of cutting a video for respect
@drcrazy2966
3 жыл бұрын
Imagine getting pissed off at your gf because she talked about another overwatch team, man should be lucky he had a gf in the first place considering he plays overwatch
@silomurphy4451
3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@lysterrniere6852
3 жыл бұрын
Murdered with words
@purplewine7362
3 жыл бұрын
I mean OW has the biggest percentage of female base out of all the fpses
@ShiRuBa3368
3 жыл бұрын
You just ended his career twice
@ddmareo
3 жыл бұрын
i mean he was lucky enough to have a gf that really look into your choice of career
@atomicaj2022
3 жыл бұрын
I love how most of these comments are “yo TENZ is joining sentinels”
@nithinsrivatsa4726
3 жыл бұрын
The gaming community in a nutshell. The vast majority of comments are all either "wow another girl trying to ruin a man's career" or "wow TenZ" I expected the TenZ move from Sentinels even though he's a bad fit for the squad simply because it helps them generate good publicity instead of people focusing on what happened with Sinaatra. Looks like it's working.
@supremesnoke9391
3 жыл бұрын
@@nithinsrivatsa4726 sure u did buddy. The reason why people are all talking about is because no one saw it coming. 100T tried to get Tenz but his contract was too solid, so if u predicted sentinels would pick up Tenz you are just stoooopid.
@Cyvx
3 жыл бұрын
@@nithinsrivatsa4726 so true. im kinda sick of this community. it feels like a bunch of 14 year old sexist, racist nerds who dont give a fuck about anything else than their fkn games. no moral, no empathy, nothing.
@BenDover-mx1wq
3 жыл бұрын
@@Cyvx Yea and you have an abundance of empathy and morals right? That's why I'm sure you're quick to throw a guy under the bus just for allegations instead of waiting for the full evidence to come through.
@saakshis2942
3 жыл бұрын
@@BenDover-mx1wq did u read the google doc and hear the audio? lmao waiting for “evidence” is fine but cleos and sinatras responses clearly show that she had a lot more to say and evidence to back it up whereas sinatra just said “i didnt do it”. sorry that im less inclined to believe someone who can’t even give any reasons for why they are innocent and instead just say that both sides looked at the relationship differently. absolute bs
@RompusJr
3 жыл бұрын
My fiance has endometriosis, and sometimes you just have to learn to respect people, grow up, and stop when she says ouch.. If nutting is really that important get a fleshlight or something lol? Sinatraa is insane at damn near any game he touches, and I hope none of this is true, but TBH his personality on stream has always came off as narcissistic so it wouldn't surprise me. Thoughts and prayers out to his ex, nobody deserves such treatment.
@bolt-strikes
3 жыл бұрын
@Mami mumii dami dumii 18 isn’t a minor
@henrytep8884
3 жыл бұрын
@Mami mumii dami dumii no... that's not the definition of minor. Stop changing definition to fit an agenda. This is how you lose any progress in what you want to accomplish in life. Be honest with the definition, even though I would argue that "minor" is an arbitrary definition created for social/ cultural norms, but regardless it still has utility because of our adherence to the rule of law. You can argue that people aren't that mature at 18, and sexual abuse occurs more often without realization of it, but don't belittle our destroy the definition that we agree on in society just to push your narrative please. It doesn't help anyone and it actually creates a backlash against the culture you want to build because of a perception of dishonesty on your part for the purpose of outcome over what everyone should strive for, equal opportunity.
@MFZBitch
3 жыл бұрын
@Mami mumii dami dumii the age of consent is 14-16, and an 18 year old is a legal adult. Also sexuality starts to develop in humans as early as around age 7.
@s.e.klocke
3 жыл бұрын
Brother i dont get why you type this. I mean yeah ok give her your thought and prayer but why? I mean we dont know if its true. F.e. the same shit happened to Johnny Depp with Amber Heard. She did accuse him of abusing her too . He lost some parts in movies cause of that ... Turns out she was lying ... Like. We cant just believe her and cancel sinatraa in my opinion until its gone to court or whatever and he has been proven guilty
@lel2765
3 жыл бұрын
@@s.e.klocke bro there is literally audio proof
@XeroXenTruSin
3 жыл бұрын
This was a respectfully and professionally well done video. Im really enjoying the more serious, informational news tone you correctly give to this kind of story. Recent content has been good. I hope this story ends with everyone getting what they deserve. This isn't a new "thing" in the world, it's new accountability for what people have done on their path to stardom.
@mvrrko
3 жыл бұрын
man, things have been fucked up in the esports scene lately.
@kazekui
3 жыл бұрын
they’ve been fucked up for a long time, but now people are actually being held accountable
@simonesivo6992
3 жыл бұрын
As long as kids will be superstars, any scene will always be fucked up. Besides any genius has his own flaws...
@kazekui
3 жыл бұрын
Alef Malamens I think age is a different argument. Especially since tremendously inappropriate shit was happening in the Smash community, where many people well above 18 were involved in sexual abuse. However, in this context it seems like a weird way to play down sexual and emotional abuse of someone by saying that: ‘hey, all geniuses are flawed’
@viktorbirkeland6520
3 жыл бұрын
@@simonesivo6992 that's a great argument. Y'know, Ted Kaczynski had his flaws, but he was a certified genius. Same with R. Kelly, good at music, with flaws. Epstein aswell, good at making money, minor flaws though. If that's your argument, I don't really know what to say lol.
@thoticcusprime9309
3 жыл бұрын
@@simonesivo6992 there are no geniuses here
@VainFriggus
2 жыл бұрын
If this is accusation is proven to be false, she should be sentenced to the same punishment he would have received if found guilty.
@trivikram4962
2 жыл бұрын
it was proven innocent
@zzchillzz4824
2 жыл бұрын
I hear this all the time and it's extremely stupid. No, if she's proven false she should absolutely 100% be punished, defamation of character, he lost worst over it ect ect but what she did simply isn't as morally wrong as what he would be falsely committed for.
@zzchillzz4824
2 жыл бұрын
@@trivikram4962 no, it wasn't
@thomasb.7517
2 жыл бұрын
@@zzchillzz4824 yes, it was
@ren2089
2 жыл бұрын
@@zzchillzz4824 i doubt sinatraa would chase after legal punishment for her though, she has shown multiple times that she's mentally unstable (which makes her more likely to end up with therapy and that's it..) and he has nothing to gain from her honestly.
@cosmickarma855
3 жыл бұрын
Damn its honestly too crazy I've watched Sinatraa since start of OWL. Hearing this makes me sad
@d4s0n282
3 жыл бұрын
we dont know if its true tho, there is literally no proof other then what she says, and its not that hard to make fake audio recordings
@mvn4337
3 жыл бұрын
@@d4s0n282 seems pretty legit to me
@d4s0n282
3 жыл бұрын
@@mvn4337 how so, I could 100% see all that stuff being faked, even stuff like msges could be faked really easy, I would only believe it if a 2nd person comes out
@181-k3k
3 жыл бұрын
@@mvn4337 remember the slazo sitution it could be fake
@tomoyakun9294
3 жыл бұрын
@@d4s0n282 audio recordings are not easy to fake my guy .. don't make it sound so easy .. even if you did manage to fake one, experts around that kind of thing would've known, its not hard for an investigator to have that kind of skill, plus that audio was TAKEN from a video of them having sex .. I can't believe you still would say it's faked .. we haven't heard sinatra's side so we can't make conclusions yet but things are looking pretty grim for him ..
@AshPhoenix
3 жыл бұрын
“And now, the end is near...”
@Socks6969
3 жыл бұрын
I’m so *close*
@akillerpro7582
3 жыл бұрын
"And so I face, the final curtain..."
@lavendyrchi
3 жыл бұрын
The standard for video game pros is literally just Dont Be A Rapist or Pedophile and somehow that’s incredibly hard.
@rylvn3058
3 жыл бұрын
idk how so many of them suck at not being a terrible person
@SerenityJayne
3 жыл бұрын
just general life skills, dont do that shit
@friedkake1876
3 жыл бұрын
Like literally
@n0skll721
3 жыл бұрын
@@rylvn3058 i guess some of them just think to good of themselfs, they think they are gods in the videogames the play and maybe that leds to some stuff in their personality, beeing a terrible person towords others.
@sijcecilio
3 жыл бұрын
No means no dudes. Regardless of your relationship, consent is a must.
@obsidianregaliapoppy7662
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. But to judge this case, respect still a presumption of innocence and need of proof beyond a reasonable doubt. If however he is proven in that way to do it, punish him accordingly of course.
@davidmendez6651
3 жыл бұрын
@@obsidianregaliapoppy7662 Wow. It's funny to me that I find comments like yours so rare. Just follow the judicial process as it was written, Innocent until proven guilty with the burden on the accuser to prove guilt. It's so simple but people are so quick to judge. BTW revert poppy...
@johndriscoll213
3 жыл бұрын
@@davidmendez6651 Ninety percent of sexual assault allegations are neither proven nor disproven. We can hear her say no, we can hear Sinatraa ignoring her. That is rape.
@remyzazo3437
3 жыл бұрын
@@johndriscoll213 i can take a clip out of any sex tape that sounds like rape whats ur point lmao, just wait and see what happens
@Arirezz
3 жыл бұрын
@@johndriscoll213 do you not understand how it can be taken out of context? What if they were doing a fantasy bit?
@dhs0801
3 жыл бұрын
Judging by his initial twitlonger, I am expecting that in Sinatraa's response that he'll try to give evidence that the victim was abusive as well. This might go from bad to hell.
@SahilP2648
3 жыл бұрын
I will need to buy popcorn for this lol
@Panch_Boi
3 жыл бұрын
So basically Johnny Depp?
@ficedulamortis6434
3 жыл бұрын
Tbf in the document she states that she made a tiktok saying he dated an underage girl as a "joke". I'm willing to bet they were both abusive, but we only have one side of the story for now
@cosmey449
3 жыл бұрын
@@Panch_Boi well johnny depp was proven right in the end
@TheJerbol
3 жыл бұрын
Bet you $1000 he has zero 'evidence'
@silocyciscron556
3 жыл бұрын
WOMEN go to the cops not twitter.
@xzvera6781
3 жыл бұрын
fax no printer
@t0xicsimon
3 жыл бұрын
facts like I don't understand why she would post it on twitter
@redlamper
3 жыл бұрын
@@t0xicsimon Seeing both sides, I'm convinced she's lying.
@jaret6661
Ай бұрын
@@redlamper🙄
@joey_m2000
3 жыл бұрын
Is it just me, or is everyone that is associated with esports, twitch, and KZitem just out there clout chasing with these allegations. Before you comment that I’m a idiot for saying that, I don’t condone sexual assault or anything like that, but why not take these 30 page documents to a lawyer and take the people you’re accusing to court??
@thomass1477
3 жыл бұрын
Ive always wondered the same thing. Isnt this a crime you would report to the police? It seems weird to upload this kind of allegation to social media and not go to the police about it. Like sure he might lose his career as a esports pro, but he wouldnt go to jail or recieve any other sort of criminal punishment. Just strange to me
@kemshreddy
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for having sense.
@YungFozz
3 жыл бұрын
Def for clout. If he did do it, he should be punished but the point of this was for sure clout only
@RoemDaug
3 жыл бұрын
Because they don't want their abusers' fans to continue to idolize them while court proceedings take place.
@eajayy8969
3 жыл бұрын
@@trigonbryant if the courts don’t care about it tho then what can be done? Exposing him is fine and that’s another thing, but claiming the court is useless makes all her efforts all the more futile. What justice does she gain? Tearing his career down, it’d be better if he was in jail for his shit (if he did it).
@kisapniaq
3 жыл бұрын
I feel obligated but hesitant to ask knowing this but... is there a Nairo update?
@deepwebwhirlpool
3 жыл бұрын
he posted an update on his channel i believe
@TSkillzX
3 жыл бұрын
There has been some updates but its all good news from what it seems like
@raikia9674
3 жыл бұрын
everything has been pretty much been cleared up and people in the community are now pushing for Nairo's unban from twitch and events and Captain Zack's banning from everything
@zacharythompson3772
3 жыл бұрын
look at his channel and twitter
@Duskr9
3 жыл бұрын
I believed in Nairo since the beginning tbh. Zack was suspicious as hell, you don't blackmail people as a victim.
@wep0nx170
3 жыл бұрын
Sentinels just picked up TenZ to be a bench player... I don’t think the Sentinels are too worried😂
@Maranatha356
3 жыл бұрын
Sinatraa is better, but tenz is pretty damn good, nothing to do with the allegations, im just talking about raw skill.
@annihilator_315
3 жыл бұрын
Sinatraa is good at getting kills and game sense but tenz has nasty aim and op skills
@JJLovesYeshua
3 жыл бұрын
@@Maranatha356 AHAHAH bro tenz is so much better. He is humble and knows exactly what he is doing. Sinatraa is the kind of guy to tilt and int because his team losing meanwhile tenz keeps his mind straight and stays consistent. There’s a reason tenz blew up and was considered the best player NA and he probably still is.
@joshman2431
3 жыл бұрын
@@Maranatha356 🤣🤣in every tournament.. Tenz has always higher ACS..
@hedron55
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah about that......sentinels aren't gonna win bro
@sn2464
3 жыл бұрын
I read the title first and im thinkin : God damn , they goin back for Frank Sinatra now? You had me for a second😂
@zhenthewei
3 жыл бұрын
Didn't know that there's such a long cutscene from Kingdom Hearts
@HuggyBuddyOwO
3 жыл бұрын
I just can't-
@tforde2143
3 жыл бұрын
Its leaked from Kingdom Hearts 4. Really cool too see that Square got the rights to the real world.
@NaveenJeyaBalan
3 жыл бұрын
What do you mean
@applejuice6921
3 жыл бұрын
sinatraa: a dude whos been known to be a toxic person doing toxic things. everyone: surprised pikachu face
@mikithepleb5017
3 жыл бұрын
Forgot about that part
@skyl3rsn00p2
3 жыл бұрын
i t-bag in game so that means i’m a murderer irl hahhahahahh
@silvorant7296
3 жыл бұрын
I mean being abusive in relationship and toxic online are 2 different things, for example me - I'm very toxic online at times, but I would never abuse, hurt, or do anything bad towards my gf in a million times infinite years
@usmn._.m
3 жыл бұрын
knowing somebody is toxic doesn't make me expect a person to be a sexual abuser lol
@mcgunions1175
3 жыл бұрын
Lol you are basing your perspective off of things he's done in-game, I've never seen sinatraa do anything toxic out of the game, correct me if im wrong
@n4sonxxx522
3 жыл бұрын
Sentinels : Oh no,Anyways... *Signs Tenz*
@ol1mar
3 жыл бұрын
Hazed has had a really good take around this whole situation, very mature and I hope to see more of it from the esports scene. I guess even dark clouds have a silver lining though because TenZ playing on Sentinals is super exciting for everyone and I hope everything goes well for the team
@deankruse2891
3 жыл бұрын
Dude this isn’t about sentinels or tenz and it’s def not about the fans
@aguy4605
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I've learned certain things from the Amber Heard and Johnny Depp situation. I will always wait for the official investigation to go through; there's a lot of context to be understood and factors to be included. I will add in, however, that I am not at all aware of this situation aside from hearing about it in TenZ's stream and this video - I'm relatively certain most people here are the same as me. I was not there, just like the thousands of people who are commenting on this situation, and I've seen far too many careers destroyed due to the *"Guilty until proven Innocent"* mentality everyone seems to have. Yes, I say that with all the clips/messages/screenshots she posted. No, I'm not on either one's side - I don't even watch Sinatraa. Everything's a rumor and/or opinion until the official investigation proves something and self-proclaimed Sherlock Holmes everywhere need to chill.
@CapeEniEer
3 жыл бұрын
I believe Cleo just because her situation is too similar to my own case... Her abuser's actions perfectly mirror my ex's, the way she got raped is same too, it starts off consentual then it becomes non consentual etc. Her feeling like she cant criticise her boyfriend at all. She couldnt have just come up with a narrative that perfectly mirrors stuff that happens in real life.
@k.s582
3 жыл бұрын
@@CapeEniEer I am trying to understand these situations better and become informed, this is a personal question that you dont need to answer in youtube comments, but what makes you stay in these situations? Why put up with it for months?
@danielxiong8592
3 жыл бұрын
@@k.s582 its sad because people tend to stay in abusive relationships
@murraystenhouse8469
3 жыл бұрын
@Ali Miri at what rate exactly?
@murraystenhouse8469
3 жыл бұрын
@Ali Miri "like 1/10 or sum" doesn't sound like a very convincing statistic. I'm asking for an actual rate from a real source.
@peacock9473
3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if the score eSports made a documentary on "the story of kingdom hearts 3"
@nux8803
3 жыл бұрын
TheScore Esports truly delivers. Thanks for the vid!
@user-wm1zg1dh8f
3 жыл бұрын
Crazy how a simple allegation can completely ruin someone's career before its even proven.
@fairypousymfairy
3 жыл бұрын
He's just suspended. Nothing is ruined for him. And if the allegations are true his career still won't be ruined. The only thing that will be ruined is the girl's life
@yrgmonkeypox7868
3 жыл бұрын
FAXXX
@kelvin5005
3 жыл бұрын
@@fairypousymfairy yes it is lol now hes out of SEN cus he was suspended and replaced by TenZ
@xo9726
3 жыл бұрын
@@fairypousymfairy allegations last for a life time, especially if they're about sexual assault. Most of the time, it never really gets proven wrong or right. The 'case' just gets dissolved because there's not enough evidence to prove the 'victims' allegations. But they mostly turn out to profit the victim more than the alleged assaulter because the victim always has the victims Advantage (which is totally okay. You should always listen to the victim before you listen to the alleged assaulter) For example, Carson was flamed and cancelled for asking a 17 yesr old for nudes, and his career is pretty much fucked. I personally think Sinatraa did not assault her sexually, rather mentally. He was manipulative and apparently abusive too, on a mental basis.
@sap7423
2 жыл бұрын
@Cath iriss he got kick out
@alongj8512
3 жыл бұрын
I realy don't know anything about this case, but my gut is crying out false accusations.
@redlamper
3 жыл бұрын
I've seen from both sides and I think Cleo has to be lying.
@JessieJussMessy
3 жыл бұрын
Also, good video. Thank you for addressing it seriously and with neither bias nor shame. Such topics should be respected yet not ignored, as though it's technically not "our business" as individuals, it is our responsibility as a collective to stand up for one another. Anyway, hope the true victim in this case finds peace and likewise that the true antagonist be put to justice. Cheers
@fatmonke4774
3 жыл бұрын
New day New beating : The story of sinatraa
@morefoodsmorenudes8046
3 жыл бұрын
LMAO underrated af
@phantom8699
3 жыл бұрын
Guilty until proven innocent OMEGALUL
@Maliciousmusicman
3 жыл бұрын
Oof stop
@maximilianwonschik1304
3 жыл бұрын
Thats just fucked up
@VB_Bryan
3 жыл бұрын
Jack Harlow doing a Kermit impression
@3opper416
3 жыл бұрын
XD
@Daedriczful
3 жыл бұрын
My throat hurts from listening to this...
@nizmo5717
3 жыл бұрын
How do people watch this lol
@marissacoleman4947
3 жыл бұрын
I'm deaddd
@malayjaiswal169
3 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@DJUwU
3 жыл бұрын
*"The least you could do is message me personally".....right after you posted a PUBLIC 9 PAGE DOCUMENT...* Obviously if what is said is 100% true...this is horrible. But I have a friend who experienced the same type of allegations....and after the investigation...it was found that the girlfriend made almost everything up and was just mad that my friend broke up with her in the middle of their "honeymoon" in Los Angeles. Its been 3 years, and in a way...he is still suffering financial and social consequences from that false allegation....and that's just messed up. Don't form your opinions until the official investigation comes out please!
@DJUwU
3 жыл бұрын
That ex gf had pictures of ripped shirts with red food color dye on it....to pictures and screen shots of texts....it looked much worse than this Sinatra case honestly... AND IT WAS ALL EITHER FAKED WITH FOOD COLORING - OR PHOTOSHOPPED. And the evidence looked convincing af...so just saying...
@rnrdnnnnnn
2 жыл бұрын
W
@ValerieHeart
3 жыл бұрын
Jesus these Sinatraa fan boy comments are cancerous. Girl posts a 9+ page document complete with screenshots and audio dating months back. All Sinatraa does is respond with a few sentences via Twitter that boils down to, " _I'm sad to hear she saw our relationship differently_ " and hasn't shown his face since then.
@kawanzaii8698
3 жыл бұрын
I’ll preface by saying I’m no Sinatra fan and I haven’t actually read the document in full so I may be wrong here. But to be fair, pages of screenshots don’t mean anything unless they prove beyond a reasonable doubt the allegation. An example of this is the Pokimane-Fed drama which was FAR more pages and evidence than this and had people shifting sides constantly. From the snippets I’ve seen here they don’t prove rape or sexual assault allegations, they just paint Sinatra’s character in a very bad light. Additionally, the one audio clip, without context, isn’t convincing in the least. Morals + context is a different issue, but if we look at it simply as proof, it falls massively short. Finally, the alleger had potentially a whole year to craft a narrative while people like you slam Sinatra after a few weeks (or even days?). Why should Sinatra cater to the Twitter clown fest when he can clear his name through legal and official channels? As it stands, Sinatra’s character has been defamed but there is little strong evidence of the actual alleged crime.
@kawanzaii8698
3 жыл бұрын
BTW, I’m not saying I don’t believe the alleger, I’m just saying to not blindly believe the alleger.
@hdkfshkskfe5186
3 жыл бұрын
@@kawanzaii8698 yes. People always say preach about having to believe the ”victim” which is bad. You shouldn’t believe in either side you shouldn’t have opinions on this at all. It’s something for the police to handle. People blamed for these kind of things gets their life fucked up even if they’re innocent even this situation IF sinatraa is innocent he misses a huge tournament for him and will always have a bad reputation regardless, even maybe lose his spot on a team.
@hades6532
3 жыл бұрын
@@hdkfshkskfe5186 @Kawanzaii There are audio files of him disregarding her consent and r*ping her. As far as I’m concerned, the evidence presented against Sinatraa is pretty conclusive.
@ethulwulf5351
3 жыл бұрын
If I was younger, that evidence would have been enough to convinced me that Sinatraa was guilty; but after being in college and seeing the false Me Too accusations News reports....things just don’t seem cut and dry anymore. Sinatraa has the right of due-process and to face his accuser in court, until that day comes he is INNOCENT until proven guilty!
@ultranova3817
3 жыл бұрын
Idk what to believe anymore, i know way too many girls who falsely accuse men for sexual assault and ruin their lives, then just get off without any punishments. That isn’t cool bro
@EliteNormie
2 жыл бұрын
False allegations make up 2-5% of real sexual assault allegations. I get your concern but generally, in situations completely unrelated to the eSports sphere, we should be prioritising victims to speak out, not on a small percentage of people who lie their way through the court system.
@fantasizinval
3 жыл бұрын
sad thing is that sinatraa was my favorite valorant player and now this is happening. why does all the big people in esports and youtube getting accused now.
@adenkyramud5005
3 жыл бұрын
Mainly because they're so big. Either the fame makes them think they're above the law and ultra powerful or people want to use their name in that shit to become famous. Both are super fucked up. And both are sadly very common these days.
@soundjuggler129
3 жыл бұрын
@@adenkyramud5005 I get that but at this point Sinatraa wasn’t as popular as he is now he was at this point an overwatch rookie so he wasn’t really big
@ThePhilosopherLB
3 жыл бұрын
@@adenkyramud5005 dude he has always been toxic. His ego was through the roof. They once said he is reformed but i never really saw that.
@heroine1212
3 жыл бұрын
what if hes not guilty of any of this. what if its not true? why is it so hard to understand that accusations dont mean that shit has really happened?
@heroine1212
3 жыл бұрын
@@ThePhilosopherLB being toxic in video games does not make you a rapist dude.
@royui
2 жыл бұрын
Audio clipped is confirmed edited by Cleoh herself, and she deleted the docs herself, and Sintraa lawyers is planning furthermore plans.
@bellaluka-7957
2 жыл бұрын
fr?
@keomagrant6520
3 жыл бұрын
"Kingdom Hearts" Yes
@aguilardnerha7467
2 жыл бұрын
After witnessing this Johnny Depp V Amber Heard case I am a firm believer in innocence until proven guilty, guess I'll just wait and see
@OhMyPulse
2 жыл бұрын
The crazy thing is, if you try to go look for the allegation audio clips, the guy who runs the channel who has it posted deletes every single comment calling out sinatraa and was probably paid by him to do it, posting multiple videos defending him is the whole purpose of his channel and calling the girl crazy, the guys name is TheScuffedMen or something its actually insane
@kotakoh9992
2 жыл бұрын
Bro tell me why we both are here at the same time. Did u see the vid abt nadeshot not wanting him cus the allegations?
@Kage.M
2 жыл бұрын
Yea it’s actually fucking scary . Poor girl probably got sexually assaulted and Sinatra using his money and audience to hide behind it
@MrOscaregc
2 жыл бұрын
Fn account and innocent till proven guilty
@richie2363
2 жыл бұрын
this girl just like johnny depp case bruh
@LockedArtz
2 жыл бұрын
@@richie2363 not even remotely similiar 💀💀
@edfed3797
3 жыл бұрын
it just repeats itself. Every time this happens people don't seem to understand the whole idea that you shouldn't defend either one of them. Its either "Sinatraa would never do that I can't believe that she would ruin his career" or "she's so brave it has to be him why would she lie about being r*aped" waiting for the legal evidence is better than taking sides. The fact that people can so quickly jump to accuse the victim or perpetrator is insane.
@gusiontrashtalks2819
3 жыл бұрын
And the problem is that her evidence is probably insufficient in court.
@NamebeDale_592
3 жыл бұрын
Man I love this chanel really cuz it actually gives me good Intel of what's going on
@ThePhilosopherLB
3 жыл бұрын
It gives me good amd. I'll find my way out.
@coach_pr0d1gy
3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I feel like explaining the assumption of innocence to some people going ham after such an incidence...
@TheGoodguyperson
3 жыл бұрын
Video : thescoreesports Title : valorant Description : Kingdom hearts 3 Hotel ? Trivago
@n4sonxxx522
3 жыл бұрын
7:43 Can we just appreciate how tenz replied using killua's gif like a legend he is
@sekeb338
3 жыл бұрын
fr
@gubat
3 жыл бұрын
the best gif he could use lmao
@aldiyaralmassov3378
3 жыл бұрын
What is this anime?
@sekeb338
3 жыл бұрын
@@aldiyaralmassov3378 hunter x hunter how the fuck dont you know that anime
@aldiyaralmassov3378
3 жыл бұрын
@@sekeb338 don’t know man, but thanks I guess!
@Luminated
3 жыл бұрын
people really need to sit back a little and let the whole story unfold... we can't jump on sinatraa without his side of the story. Allegations are massive and something that definitely should be investigated but everyone is innocent until proven guilty. That's how due process works. There are two sides of the story and we have only heard one. We need to wait for everything to come out to create a verdict. Hope Cleo and Sinatraa the best.
@infamous-6166
3 жыл бұрын
Guilty till innocent you mean
@kionjones9459
3 жыл бұрын
@@infamous-6166 no innocent till proven guilty its how it should work.
@infamous-6166
3 жыл бұрын
Your right its how it should work but your guilty tell proven innocent
@peepeepasa4832
3 жыл бұрын
@@infamous-6166 thats mad dumb. imagine being falsly accused of r*pe but cant get proved innocent, your life is ruined. meanwhile if its innocent til proven guilty, if you get falsly accused, they need evidence which they cant possibly have to get you in jail
@aaronperera9567
2 жыл бұрын
@@peepeepasa4832 Is Sinatraa falsely accused or did he actually
@fyrez3195
3 жыл бұрын
My blood is boiling, even if this isn't true I know this is a fairly common thing. Can't believe any person with a heart would be okay doing any of these things to another human beings.
@logancarr3213
3 жыл бұрын
why is ur blood boiling if we dont even know if it was true
@fyrez3195
3 жыл бұрын
@@logancarr3213 did you not read my comment? i literally said that i wasnt sure if it was true... can you read sir?
@ethulwulf5351
3 жыл бұрын
@@fyrez3195 So it’s boiling over the possibility of it being true? You could probably communicate your point a bit better because what you said implies you’re mad even if it isn’t true.
@suhasop4919
3 жыл бұрын
@Rajveer LOL
@iliekrainbowsss6809
3 жыл бұрын
@@suhasop4919 oh my fucking God, I shouldn't have read this comment because I spat out my smoothie.
@FDT222
3 жыл бұрын
It feels like women can have audio, video, text, and DNA evidence and people will still go "Eh, I dunno..."
@pingschlong2896
3 жыл бұрын
it isnt solid evidence but eh i dunno know
@jama8894
3 жыл бұрын
normally im unbiased but still this one seems very true... sadly he one tapped his career
@divyanshbhamu2941
2 жыл бұрын
why she waited for so long to accuse him? she just wanted to destroy his career
@nathansearch8338
2 жыл бұрын
Now we know, she launched an OnlyFans and is promoting it with all the attention and clout she got. But at the same time she stated that she wasn't showing up to court because she wasn't feeling well enough.
@heandy3318
3 жыл бұрын
6:55 it's called due process, if someone makes an accusation that guy being accused should not be penalized at all until proven guilty, wait for the entire story is a correct response, both parties can be lying.
@fbmw98
3 жыл бұрын
it will cause more damage to sentinels if they let a proven sex offender participating in competition than benching him for a false allegation. I think.
@zoodlejarjar2331
3 жыл бұрын
Ferrel Brendan but how is that fair? How can you ruin a guys career based on allegations? It could take years until this shits uncovered...
@fbmw98
3 жыл бұрын
@@zoodlejarjar2331 I didn’t say it’s fair.
@loukassakellarios4113
3 жыл бұрын
@@zoodlejarjar2331 There is not a guaranteed chance that he is innocent, it’s better to just keep him benched now. Better safe than sorry.
@jehovahsfitness
3 жыл бұрын
“iT’s CaLLed DuE PrOcEsS” dude wait until you get into the real world and you’ll find any organisation or government body will suspend a staff member while investigations take place
@c.d8455
2 жыл бұрын
So guilty until proven innocent again. I don’t get why People can’t stay neutral until all the information is out. Why ruin his career off an allegation, but also why discredit her just because of who he is. Just a weird situation no one ever seems to handle correctly.
@red3768
2 жыл бұрын
well the courts don’t work and nobody wants a rapist to go around free as hell but we can’t do shit. so with the bucketload of evidence it’s clear what happened
@robertalridgeiv2586
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like these allegations are a 50/50 now. So many come out to the point where it's hard to believe if they're lying or telling the truth. For sure gonna wait for more to come out.
@sameez8701
3 жыл бұрын
Same, I wish there weren’t so many high profile cases that turned out to be fraud so that this stuff wouldn’t be lied about. There is no way of knowing if it’s real or fake at this point
@rezabarzegar9613
3 жыл бұрын
Those people are really damaging the chance for women and men to speak up. But remember this only 6% from the allegations is reported to be false. So keep that in mind, because if everyone is gonna question the people that come forward with their issue. They won’t do it anymore.
@ifigetbannedagainyoutubeis2018
3 жыл бұрын
@@rezabarzegar9613 6%? Source?
@elijahsteadman691
3 жыл бұрын
@@rezabarzegar9613 where’d you get that 6% stat? Sounds completely made up
@rezabarzegar9613
3 жыл бұрын
@@elijahsteadman691 i put the link in a comment, youtube keeps deleting the link
@kiefferwebb142
3 жыл бұрын
You guys honestly rock for helping bring these situations more public. This shit is not okay and we should always be making an example.
@pedroguardo4270
2 жыл бұрын
U CANT BANNED A PERSON WITHOUT A SENTENCE MADE BY THE JUDGE
@kiefferwebb142
2 жыл бұрын
@@pedroguardo4270 You most certainly can.
@pedroguardo4270
2 жыл бұрын
@@kiefferwebb142 its unfair
@oquinn64
3 жыл бұрын
So many kindhearted men out here who would never do such a thing, it’s a shame that most women just want men with flash, and status.
@SleepyCS2
3 жыл бұрын
whole lotta "nice guy" energy in this comment
@oquinn64
3 жыл бұрын
@@SleepyCS2 what do you mean by that?
@symbolitical4158
3 жыл бұрын
@@oquinn64 that he's never touched a women and he's an incel. Nothing more.
@Josh-ux5wp
3 жыл бұрын
How sad, throwing away his bright career because he couldn’t take “no” for an answer. Even if this is all made up, his reputation is shattered. He will never get signed to another org. Also didn’t he drop out of highschool too?
@CapeEniEer
3 жыл бұрын
whats sad is a lot of boys and men actually think situations like these are not rape. They think rape is violent and happens with strangers... They feel entitled to their girlfriend's sex because thats how they were told life is
@jacobdoolan4978
3 жыл бұрын
That was the most playful no I’ve ever heard.
@prince2k517
3 жыл бұрын
This is why I’m not forming an opinion yet. Myth says you can’t say what Sinatraa’s girlfriend is saying isn’t true, but we also don’t know that it is true yet. And if it is, then that’s fucked up, but if it isn’t, ruined the mans career for nothing.
@trooves37
3 жыл бұрын
honestly imo his career won't be as ruined as you might think it be he'll still have millions of fans.. He will probably be signed to another team if he's proven innocent and the accuser would get a load of backlash for what she did and her life would probably be ruined hopefully
@jacobdoolan4978
3 жыл бұрын
@@trooves37 only time will tell
@gumbo909
2 жыл бұрын
After I quit OW abt 2 and a half yrs ago I stopped keeping up w any news around anything abt OW, but oh fucking please. I’m sick of these girls on the internet coming out “courageously” always at the peak of their ex boyfriend’s career, coincidentally, everytime. And ofc everyone on Twitter just fully believes EVERYTHING the girl says and gets very defensive for her before the case is even fully investigated. And in turn, ruining the career of the person being accused of something. I’ve listened to some of the audio clips and lmfao, to say that audio clip which sounds like just a couple goofing around is a LONGGGGG stretch. It’s ridiculous how our world has become so lenient and are so afraid of being cancelled that they will just do whatever it takes to always side with the minority, even if their claims are downright ridiculous. Now I’m not saying that these things never happen for any type of minority, but to get on someone’s ass and ruin their career for something that hasn’t even been fully investigated nor where both sides have been shown, whether it is a man or a woman is mind boggling to me.
@Hydras
3 жыл бұрын
Who’s hyped for TenZ on SEN???
@NiceGamingHU
3 жыл бұрын
i think mostly everybody 🏆🏆
@coby1112
3 жыл бұрын
So hyped
@Arrlic
3 жыл бұрын
TenZ is still signed to C9 technically
@byeambush4113
3 жыл бұрын
tenz is not a competitive player bro. he couldnt do it in c9, he is not gonna do it in sentinels.
@trentonhudgins3310
3 жыл бұрын
@@Arrlic NAH HE GOT BOUGHTOUT
@ilikechineseteaespeciallyj7262
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly that is some balls shit that Cleo did and she deserves the biggest respect and sympathy to have stood up for herself.
@gvbe_9718
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly it looks like bs to me. He never accused her of cheating according to the texts she sent and she hasn't given any proof of him forcing her to have sex. If such was true she should have broken up with him ok the sooner as such isn't acceptable
@mark.freeman1234
3 жыл бұрын
Gvbe _ I’m just gonna say she did mention how he allegedly threatened to kill himself if she broke up with him maybe the reason she didn’t break up earlier idk tho trying to stay unbias
@Solarized666
3 жыл бұрын
@@gvbe_9718 Do you know how hard is to break up? You might know that your partner is toxic but leaving is hard, fear is big part of things like this. Also the victim blaming is not cool.
@zethrem9937
3 жыл бұрын
@@gvbe_9718 i agree the essay could be a lie abd the screenshits could be faked plus in the audio clip which is her only real evidence she sounds playful and immature.and honestly this seems weird like who tf records only the audio if them having sex that is fucking weird
@CapeEniEer
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah i cant imagine all the shit and scrutiny she is exposing herself to for this... not to mention the possible guilt over "ruining someone's career" so very brave. Ive been physically and sexually assaulted and i cant make myself to go to police because im afraid of them getting hate because of me and of them going to prison because of me, the guilt wouldnt let me sleep
@RedLogicYT
3 жыл бұрын
Just wait for the final details and investigation and everyone STFU for each side. If you aren't a part of the drama directly- THEN WAIT FOR MORE INFORMATION.
@daDUSTad
3 жыл бұрын
There is a thing I am confused about situations like this. They dated for about 9 months where she was not able to get off from him, for whatever reason. So why would you now go and "discuss" shit like this in the public? In cases when something like this happens, there is only one place to go and that is the police. For me, situations like this are nothing but going for some money. Maybe it's true, we will most likely never find out.
@lilzeddy
3 жыл бұрын
@@daDUSTad best place is internet if the person is popular
@somea6706
3 жыл бұрын
@@daDUSTad it was around women day or something and most females speak up on things like this on that day. Also like the other person said, for popular people like this the best place to expose these things is the internet
@Riskofrain527
3 жыл бұрын
@@somea6706 it's also the best place to falsely accuse someone of sexual assault and ruin their lives. I hope she isn't lying.
@somea6706
3 жыл бұрын
@@Riskofrain527 I mean obviously. But why would she come out with such accusations knowing she can face legal problems and backlash if she is proven wrong. People who tell lies to intentionally ruin someone dont usually come out with pages of situations and evidence to prove their accusations.
@theshontman
3 жыл бұрын
To all those saying "why is this not private" are you willing to risk other girls falling victim to the same situation, just so you idolise the assailant? Why should we preserve his legacy at the expense of the victims? As someone who is close to a lot of victims of assault (both men and women) these stories coming out are incredibly important and not making them feel alone. And for those saying the victims are doing it for "clout" I can guarantee at least half of her inbox is death threats, threats of hacking and doxing and further assault from manbabies who are angry their idol is being exposed. Even those who comforted her on Twitter like McGravy received countless death threats from Sinatra's stans.
@KafkkaZ
3 жыл бұрын
I think this should also be taken to an actual court of law since if it's true he literally raped her.
@strange7s545
3 жыл бұрын
No1 got time to read all this shit bro. Stop being simp. Innocent until proven guilty
@rickrolledbitch1941
3 жыл бұрын
Calm down white Knight it’s called due process in the court of law crazy how were in times where people don’t care about the law and think it’s fine to say guilty first before anything else
@theshontman
3 жыл бұрын
@@strange7s545 Woow not covered reading yet? This comment is like incel bingo. Checks all the boxes
@az4535
3 жыл бұрын
Damnn now Im glad he quit ow, like “you know I hate losing“ “im just gonna play overwatch“ “why did you tweet about the outlast“
@hanmoamo
3 жыл бұрын
He may have expressed poorly and in a wrong way, but Defran is right when he says that we have to wait. These accusation are really hard, and there is a reason for why they need to be investigated by competent people. I find alright Riot's decision to not make him compete in the upcoming tournament, but I think Blizzard's decision to give free refunds for the MVP skin is awful. They basically already sentenced him without waiting the court's response, and his being a potential sexual harasser doesn't cancel out his victory in the Overwatch Worlds.
@asiannoodles8164
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree, it sucks that he’s getting cancelled right away. It’s totally valid to support the victim but give flak to J when everything justifies it, not before the evidence comes out.
@joonefps
3 жыл бұрын
Right now, I think I’ll wait for the both sides to be fully revealed and for the investigations to finish. This doesn’t mean I am saying cleo is lying, it means we don’t truly know until we know. I’m glad the OWL and VCT are taking the steps necessary to address this situation.
@tomoyakun9294
3 жыл бұрын
Well tbh .. you never relay details like that on anything unless you really can't take bottling that kind of treatment up anymore ... a lot of things in this story is pretty suspicious.. but knowing how toxic sinatra is to an extent .. its highly plausible
@soupryu
3 жыл бұрын
@@tomoyakun9294 Highly plausible doesn't mean true. Being toxic as a teenager playing competive video games isn't the same as abusing someone close to you.
@tomoyakun9294
3 жыл бұрын
@@soupryu true .. but it gives insight to what they're like, im not exactly an expert on behavioral psychology but yeah.. upon close looks, the things she presented look pretty legit, that audio file especially, its like a weinstein case but instead both sides are appealing to the public.. and its not like the other allegations I've seen done on twitter and other twitch dramas .. this one is lot more believable than the other one's not just because of the evidence .. but because it kinda seems uncalculated, its straight to the point .. you don't put your sex life into that detail unless you want something to be put into light
@aljermarientes8821
3 жыл бұрын
the seriousness of this video then I scrolled down "kingdom hearts 3" lmaooo
@RISHUPLAYZ
3 жыл бұрын
If a guy says he got sexually assaulted how many people would actually defend the guy and believe him?
@atomicvideos1763
3 жыл бұрын
Idk, but that’s totally irrelevant to these allegations
@ChawkLive
3 жыл бұрын
I've dealt with crazy lying ex's trying to ruin my life and making up stories. I feel bad for instantly not believing this girl but from my past experiences I just don't trust anyone.
@glauberjunior9870
3 жыл бұрын
It’s okay not to instantly trust one side of the story, even if it’s the “victim”. Most of the world uses the “innocent until proven guilty” system, so it’s only fair to not make assumptions until then.
@ChawkLive
3 жыл бұрын
@@glauberjunior9870 Yea I always feel bad for both sides. I feel bad for whoever is telling the truth bc there isn't a way to 100% know rn and they are probably suffering.
@mythrenz2820
3 жыл бұрын
Tenz works so well in Sentinels i feel. If Shaz just gets sova and one more character theres gonna be so many options for comps because they have two amazing jett players.
@brandeeno2846
3 жыл бұрын
It’s so easy for a woman to say something and boom, he’s not competing anymore. We don’t even know if it’s true. This this can truly ruin your life.
@nhdinh7292
3 жыл бұрын
It’s a whole lot easier to SA someone and get away with it
@gerardcuomohopplongebouvie1311
3 жыл бұрын
Is it all fake?
@joyboy5123
2 жыл бұрын
It's sad how people will pick sides, without hearing the others story.
@shahid55s52
2 жыл бұрын
there were no sides in this tho it was just cleo since the start
@Juicewrldd999
2 жыл бұрын
who here after this was all cap
@CamC146
3 жыл бұрын
For some reason when it comes to rape allegations the whole innocent until proven guilty is thrown out of the window
@swiperturbo
3 жыл бұрын
Yup especially posting to Twitter instead of going through the proper legal process
@maxl2778
3 жыл бұрын
Because false allegations are a statistical anomaly? R*pe is much more common, so if someone accuses someone else of r*pe, 99% chance they’re telling the truth
@gershonreisagario5875
3 жыл бұрын
@@maxl2778 thats complete bullshit. If you got raped you should go through the legal process first and not accuse on Twitter. Its just smarter and wiser.
@maxl2778
3 жыл бұрын
@@gershonreisagario5875 people have reasons for not wanting to go through the legal process, though. Cops are known to often be r*pe apologists, not to mention a lot of the time they don’t even try to help
@theideaofevil
3 жыл бұрын
@@gershonreisagario5875 because that was clearly working so well for so long
@Josh.Prynne
3 жыл бұрын
lost all respect no matter how good of a player he is, it is absolutely unacceptable
@truechaosmulala3831
3 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t matter unless it’s proven to be true
@littobud
3 жыл бұрын
@@truechaosmulala3831 exactly
@OtherDay-zg8yc
3 жыл бұрын
@@truechaosmulala3831 bruh innocent until proven guilty, by a court of law. Not by twitter.
@KC2Lucky
3 жыл бұрын
Some people are shit people but damn good at something. It's a shame
@VesselSplat
3 жыл бұрын
I think a voice recording is very solid proof that at the very least, he made his girlfriend uncomfortable in their relationship.
@nocureforyou9747
3 жыл бұрын
Funny cause he's already guilty no matter the outcome he will never come back from this, it is what it is
@jorgereyes4038
3 жыл бұрын
As it always happens
@khirsah666
3 жыл бұрын
It's not funny tho.
@cloudnein3483
3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately so, his career is fucked just from allegations
@TrygveofAkrar
3 жыл бұрын
Less then 8 percent of rape accusations are false and would be even lower if all the women came forward which is 1 in 5 or an even bigger chance depending on race you can't say it fake until the whole thing comes out but it's statistically most likely true
@AidanThai
3 жыл бұрын
@@TrygveofAkrar Do you have a source for that percentage? I looked it up online but I couldn't find anything for it.
@theguythatgetsallthetimest5887
3 жыл бұрын
One of the most toxic people in the gaming community being a disgusting person? nooooooooo way dude.
@samsmith939
3 жыл бұрын
Innocent until proven guilty doesn't mean anyone is saying he didnt do it
@DjFreeside
3 жыл бұрын
Did not know XQC was here? Your statement was a bit stupid.
@ashen0306
3 жыл бұрын
@@DjFreeside Can u read? He said one of the most toxic, plus sinatraa is way more toxic than xqc lol
@Revy731
3 жыл бұрын
@@ashen0306 you haven't seen old pvc lmao
@DjFreeside
3 жыл бұрын
@@ashen0306 so were MW3 lobbies. That's kind of the problem here
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