Given that they seem to have changed the name voluntarily they probably won't but it's good to see them having to back down on something a little bit.
@chrisfraser1806
27 күн бұрын
No
@JayRose904
24 күн бұрын
Poor arrma fan boy is mad
@brandonhudson4775
24 күн бұрын
Sued for what the traxxas is there truck slash is there truck and people were converting it
@MMr.NOBODYY
20 күн бұрын
@brandonhudson4775 the fact you are support this garbage can of a company shows everybody who you are. Traxxas will be the death of rc!
@marcus1970
27 күн бұрын
Can't say I'm not loving this..irony indeed.
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
:)
@davemorris6747
24 күн бұрын
Karma👍
@alantaylor353
22 күн бұрын
I have a big old grin on my face right now.! 😁😁😁😁
@DoRC
22 күн бұрын
@@alantaylor353 :)
@joewho8168
27 күн бұрын
Hmm, it couldn't have happened to a nicer company!
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
')
@FromthePits
27 күн бұрын
I’ve been racing MudBOSS for the last five years. In the beginning Salvas even admitted that he never had the MudBOSS name trademarked up until maybe two weeks ago, so in the beginning when the Slash Modified first came out as the MudBOSS Salvas couldn’t really do anything about it. I think the MudBOSS community is really what spurred Traxxas to change the name by reacting the way they did. If the creation of this new car did anything, it actually helped spur more interest in dirt oval RC racing.
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
Well given traxxas's history I get the feeling they changed it because it got trademarked. I don't blame salvas for trademarking at all. Putting 10 years into something only to have a company try to cash in on its name especially one that is litigious as Traxxas probably doesn't feel very good
@FromthePits
27 күн бұрын
@@DoRC agreed totally! 👍
@lipoz-n-nitroz4012
27 күн бұрын
I actually think this drama spurred an extra 0% interest in dirt racing. Only thing more boring is crawlers.
@shaynejenkins446
25 күн бұрын
@@lipoz-n-nitroz4012 Go play with your bashers noob.
@rcinhand9671
21 күн бұрын
It seems like since Salvas didn't have the tm on the name, Traxxas told them to kick rocks about working together. That's probably why they tm the name so recently.
@nicko2222
27 күн бұрын
naming it mudboss in the first place was silly i’m glad they’ve changed it
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
Well given that it's design basically to run in the mud boss class it's not super crazy that they would name it that but coming from a bit of experience with full size racing modified definitely makes more sense to me.
@nicko2222
27 күн бұрын
@@DoRC i don’t think it even fits the mudboss requirements. people can run this and just call it the slash modified class
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
@nicko2222 Yeah I mentioned that in the video
@54raceman
18 күн бұрын
@@nicko2222yeah the entire suspension,shocks,transmission,body and about a half dozen things are illegal for mudboss class literally about the only thing on the car legal for the class is the wheel nuts ,bearings and maybe the chassis plate assuming it’s not slightly different from a normal slash lcg chassis plate
@scottw2157
2 күн бұрын
@54raceman the chassis plate is illegal in the stock (12turn) class as well. Tores are illegal in 12turn
@PhilipCockram
27 күн бұрын
The pendulum swings both ways Traxxas. They lost me with of their lawsuits , Gibson too 🎸
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
Yeah quite a few people seem to feel that way.
@jeremythompson5798
4 күн бұрын
Yep, that’s why I’ll never buy a Plastixx.
@jhrubicon1470
27 күн бұрын
Here at North Georgia Speedway, they run the real deal full size. I think this is wonderful due to the amount of patents and suing Traxxass has done.
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
I used to be part of a pit crew for one. Good times.
@IsaacSchultz-lz8jc
27 күн бұрын
@Dorc for what team?
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
It was just a little local thing where I live. Nothing major. I was dating the daughter of a guy who built open wheel modifieds for a living so I ended up getting pretty heavily involved in it.
@jhrubicon1470
27 күн бұрын
@@DoRC it's amazing how guys squeeze so much power from those engines with all the restrictions placed on them. I ran caged fwd, 2.3 Ford killed! There were very few ecotecs to be found in the pits. I loved grooving the tires, just something about the smell I guess and hoping the teams siping was set for the tracks blue groove.
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
Yeah it's certainly a unique experience. I don't know if I'd want to make a lifestyle out of racing but I'm glad I was involved for the time I was.
@cabsbass
27 күн бұрын
One of these babies was unboxed, sitting on the counter at my local hobby shop on my last visit. No matter the name, that body looks so good with the open front wheels. I have absolutely no need for this car, not an oval track in sight, but i still want it. I agree, Traxxas falls short in many ways, but they put out attractive, eye catching products.
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
Oh yeah it's a cool looking car!
@jhrubicon1470
27 күн бұрын
@@cabsbass buy it, it'll be extremely collectable!
@bohan9957
27 күн бұрын
Absolutely brilliant! I don't own a single Traxxas product for the exact reason. Glad to see Traxxas gets a taste of their own medicine.
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
:)
@bohan9957
27 күн бұрын
@@Robcbr500 "The best", after requiring owners to pour in hundreds of dollars of additional upgrades just to make it not break every time.
@wilverine2639
27 күн бұрын
@@bohan9957that’s the fun of it.
@jebjenkins2723
26 күн бұрын
@bohan9957 so true, every time I dive my xmaxx something breaks. Almost to the point where it has no original parts on it
@freeamerican5353
26 күн бұрын
Don’t be a hater! They are trying to run a business and make a lot of great products. Not a fanboy but they are definitely an enjoyable part of my overall collection.
@RCboyzTV
27 күн бұрын
GOOD! They had it coming with how lawsuit-happy they’ve been in the past. I hope Traxxas loses and those guys get rich off this
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
Not sure there is actually a lawsuit on this one.
@PeteWylieRC
2 күн бұрын
This is fantastic. I've had a strict no Traxxas rule for my RC collection since all the lawsuit stuff and it's great to see them on the receiving end of it for a change. Thanks for sharing 👍👍
@DoRC
Күн бұрын
Yeah I don't think it was too much trouble for them but nice to see them have to backpedal a little :-)
@ronswitzer6057
19 күн бұрын
I really hate the company feuds, this is a great hobby for all ages and it’s supposed to be fun!!! Yea I get some rivalry that’s inevitable but drop the Arrma vs Traxxas crap and just have fun!! 🤘🏻
@DoRC
19 күн бұрын
Yeah I just thought it was interesting story.
@ronswitzer6057
19 күн бұрын
@@DoRC no it definitely is, and nice to see them get a little taste of their sue happy attitude 👍🏻
@DoRC
19 күн бұрын
@@ronswitzer6057 :)
@hughjanus5518
27 күн бұрын
This is so awesome. 😂 I love my x-maxx but hate what traxxas represents, big corporations with money in mind, not the hobbyist in mind.
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
To be fair they are in business to make money but they don't seem to do business the way most of the rest of the industry does
@hughjanus5518
27 күн бұрын
@@DoRC I understand making a profit, but suing any company that has any designs even remotely similar os bad for the hobby and traxxsuxx knows that.
@stp440
15 күн бұрын
Since Traxxas went with the Midwest IMCA modified bodystyle instead of the vastly more popular "big block" modified bodystyle that the genuine mudboss uses I'm considering this a name correction instead of the karma slap traxxas has coming
@DoRC
14 күн бұрын
It definitely could be though the timing from when salvas trademarked the name to when Traxxas changed it seems pretty coincidental. It also it's a bit of a head scratcher that no one would have noticed that they were designing a car that didn't match the name. Anything is possible though.
@EJ-74
27 күн бұрын
This thing would be so fun to race, man I’ve gotta get one 😁
@xmodpro234
21 күн бұрын
i tried to get into the oval racing and it was just too many cry babies. You find a nice groove and tune up and then three grown men cry about cheating and "not class legal" only to find out they just suck on the controller.
@DoRC
20 күн бұрын
That's too bad.
@Nlangkirby135
26 күн бұрын
This is what traxxas needed.... a taste of their own medicine.
@DoRC
26 күн бұрын
:)
@Pablo668
22 күн бұрын
Nice! I have a few Traxxas products, really good stuff. Business practices stink though. Good to see them taken down a peg or two.
@DoRC
22 күн бұрын
Yeah I'm not sure it'll actually change their attitude but it is fun to see.
@peterGriffin-ug7jv
27 күн бұрын
Yea we know the mud boss guys cried😢 so traxxas change the name
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
Would you be upset if you spend a decade creating and working on something only to have a giant corporation that's known for crushing the little guy come in and hashing on the name of that thing you've worked on?
@peterGriffin-ug7jv
27 күн бұрын
@@DoRC are u hurt over this?
@superrocketRC
27 күн бұрын
@DoRC if I create something, work and put all the effort to build it up and make it known, I would have trademarked/patented from the beginning, not giving a bigger company a chance to profit off of my intellectual property. For right or wrong that's how corporate America works.
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
@@superrocketRC Fair enough but doing things like trademarking names and then suing people for using those trademark names is exactly what people get upset at Traxxas for. To be honest the guy probably didn't realize he needed to. A lot of people don't really even realize that they need to protect their IP until something like this happens. I'm not saying Traxxas did anything illegal but it's certainly not the most friendly thing to do especially given that it seems like this guy has been trying to work with Traxxas for years on this project.
@anguslang5537
27 күн бұрын
@@DoRC Hi - RC hobbiest and intellectual property lawyer here. Even if you have not registered a trade mark, you can have unregistered trade mark rights arising from first use in the market (registration of a trade mark just makes an infringement case easier in certain respects). Depending on the facts in this case, it may be that Traxxas was alleged to have infringed unregistered trade mark rights, and ceased use because it took the view that it was at risk of losing that dispute.
@rcjunior888
27 күн бұрын
I recently started doing Mudboss just a week or two ago, but our FB Group (Which is where Mudboss was created) has been flooded with questions and complaints of people buying these Mudboss’s. And I’ve talked with my LHS and they explained to me that back in 2013ish, Eric Salvas created Mudboss, he tried contacting them to create a Roller Kit Version and to sell to Eric a 1000 Slash 2WD Rollers, but unfortunately that never happened…
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
Yeah that's whati heard too
@ed0c
27 күн бұрын
i refuse the buy traxxas ever since i found out about the lawsuits especially one against arrma nero!
@DoRC
26 күн бұрын
Yeah a lot of people feel that way. Personally I think protecting ones IP is fine but at least in my research it seems like some of the things that Traxxas sues for or patents that they created on ideas that they didn't come up with. That doesn't feel awesome to me.
@chrisryder4709
25 күн бұрын
Right back atcha ,,,Traxxas 🤣🤣🤣
@DoRC
25 күн бұрын
:)
@mentz8915
18 күн бұрын
They should just re-name it The Karma series 🤣🤣🤣
@DoRC
17 күн бұрын
Lol
@twinturbotony93
27 күн бұрын
Traxxas had to do this with the spartan when it first came out. It was originally called the titan, but another company had a boat called that. They had to delay the release of the boat. I ended up getting mine on Christmas eve instead of during the summer.
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
Good info. I wasn't aware of that
@twinturbotony93
27 күн бұрын
@@DoRC yep. I was really looking forward to getting the boat from the videos traxxas released of it. They ended up having issues with the power system it came with originally too. I had to get mine replaced for free with the castle based system it came with later.
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
@twinturbotony93 I still have not ever had a RC boat for it I need to do it one of these days
@twinturbotony93
27 күн бұрын
@@DoRC I have several. A boat I don't have but my friend has two, is the proboat Sonicwake. It's a great boat and self righting.
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
@twinturbotony93 If I had places around me that I could run the boats in I'd probably own a couple but there's nothing super convenient to me.
@exp2tr10t
26 күн бұрын
I was JUST talking about this on your Nero video. Not the same level as getting slapped by Formula 1 for pushrod suspension, but good to start seeing the equal and opposite reaction!
@DoRC
26 күн бұрын
Yeah most people seem pretty happy to see it.
@abulimicdog1
13 күн бұрын
Looks like they saw Mudboss wasn't trademarked and just went for it. They didn't expect the fallout and dissatisfaction from the dirt oval racing world being upset on using the name without paying licensing; even if they weren't legally obligated to do so. I wonder if the few Mudboss branded boxes that made it into the wild will fetch a premium as a collector's item in the future.
@DoRC
13 күн бұрын
Well I think they were about to be legally obligated given that salvis applied for the trademark about a week before Traxxas changed the name. As far as whether or not the original mud boss version will be valuable that's nearly impossible to predict. Rare definitely doesn't inherently mean valuable and what will and will not become collectible almost seems like random chance.
@user-pu8dz9vm4j
27 күн бұрын
It’s getting really hard to overlook all the dirty shenanigans traxxas has been pulling over the years, I would like to think they are just another rc company trying to protect what’s there’s but they are fast becoming something to avoid by many. They seem to be guilty of what they sue others for.
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
To some degree yes.
@guest6423
27 күн бұрын
Umm, they did a good thing here. WHy do y'all bash them when they fix a mistake?
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
@@guest6423 doing the right thing when you're forced to doesn't really mean that you're doing better. The right thing would have been to either not use the mud boss name or at least work with the creator of the mud boss on the project.
@shaynejenkins446
25 күн бұрын
@@guest6423 They suck dude.
@mattm518
23 күн бұрын
The vehicle doesn’t conform to rules, the shocks, transmission, wheels/ tires are all not allowed by rules as well as the body. Also the front and rear arms, caster blocks and carriers are all not compliant. Someone would have to almost rebuild the whole car besides the chassis and electronics
@DoRC
23 күн бұрын
Yeah and I'm sure Traxxas knew that which kind of makes me wonder if they were always planning on changing the name and just wanted to cash in on the recognition and controversy. That would explain why the mud boss name isn't on the car even though I think the name of the vehicles on literally every other car they've ever made
@jonfoster1737
6 күн бұрын
This would actually be the PROPER name for these vehicles. they are commonly known as Dirt Oval Modifieds.
@DoRC
5 күн бұрын
Yeah open wheel modified is what I'm used to seeing full sized cars like this called
@BrownsRC
23 күн бұрын
There is a reason I wont pull the trigger on buying any traxxas stuff. Plenty of other brands out there with more compatible parts
@DoRC
22 күн бұрын
What do you mean by more compatible parts?
@BrownsRC
22 күн бұрын
@@DoRCI guess more interchangeable parts between other brands I’ve heard some complaints that they’re more designed to just fit traxxas parts instead of aftermarket options. But I don’t buy traxxas so I will never know.
@DoRC
22 күн бұрын
@@BrownsRC there's a really strong aftermarket for Traxxas vehicles. I would say it rivals Arrma and the two of them are ahead of pretty much every other brand.
@Havingoneofthosedays-
27 күн бұрын
Haha!! - Nelson
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
Exactly :-)
@1976Cordoba
20 күн бұрын
I'm old as hell and I think I first heard the name Mudboss in the '70s as a term that referred to the old dirt modifieds that were racing out in New England or Pennsylvania back then. Maybe it was Mud Bus? Probably a play on that. 🤷♂️
@DoRC
20 күн бұрын
Maybe so. I hadn't heard it until recently but I also wasn't really in the scene back then. I did some open wheel modified pit work about 15 years ago but they were just called open wheel modifieds at that time where I was.
@1976Cordoba
20 күн бұрын
@DoRC yeah look up mud bus modified and a few stories pop up... 1979 - 1980 or so. I think Salvas was playing off that name.
@CAAM_CT-3113
27 күн бұрын
They should make a street version of the slash. I made mine into a nascar race truck and have my eyes on a gt car
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
The rally kind of is
@user-kq6qd5fn3m
21 күн бұрын
This car is way better than a Salvas Mudboss(for the beginner driver). It is also cheaper. The Mudboss class will suffer from the release of this new car. Tracks all around are running this as a box stock class. This is what is going to hurt the Mudboss scene. New drivers will race these instead of building the Salva's version.
@DoRC
21 күн бұрын
That's probably true. It's too bad they didn't work with Salvas to make it compatible.
@NemoRCnPinball
26 күн бұрын
Friend of mine owns a hobby shop...he can't keep these things in stock...looks like Traxxas is the one laughing..all the way to the bank
@DoRC
26 күн бұрын
Yeah I've heard they've been pretty popular.
@shaynejenkins446
25 күн бұрын
Not gonna believe that lol.
@KJ4ENS
19 күн бұрын
It's true, none of the national shops have them in stock till around August 21st. I got lucky and ordered mine right front Traxxas last week and had it delivered in 2 days. Awesome car and the best handling car I've ever driven. I race competitively.
@redgator7250
18 күн бұрын
@@shaynejenkins446Well, considering traxxas is probably the biggest and most well known RC company I'd say its true. Sadly Arrmma is their only REAL competition. Tekhno/Team associated and so on are completely different spec cars, not to mention most of them only come as rollers. Traxxas and Arrma have the RTR on lock down.
@leesamuelson
25 күн бұрын
funny that the body on the traxxas is a model of a midwest modified not a East coast modified( mudboss)
@DoRC
25 күн бұрын
Yeah I think I mentioned that in the video
@dylanlockwood8899
26 күн бұрын
They didn’t get in trouble they just got tons of backlash for using the name, Salvas never trademarked the name mudboss therefore Traxxis was completely ok with using that name
@DoRC
26 күн бұрын
Sort of. They actually did trademark the name a couple of weeks ago and Traxxas then changed the name. I have a hard time believing that's a coincidence. Also by trouble I didn't necessarily mean legal trouble I just meant that things happen that encourage them not to use the name anymore. I suspect though that if they hadn't changed it they would have been illegal trouble so it's kind of a distinction without a difference if you know what I mean
@shaynejenkins446
25 күн бұрын
He did though.
@TOYitCUTE
25 күн бұрын
dirt oval racing gives more sense than drag racing for sure😂
@DoRC
25 күн бұрын
I'm not sure I'd really want to get into either one of them but they both have pretty big fan bases so people must like them :-)
@DragRacingIsFun
2 күн бұрын
I think they have some crappy engineers right now because all they’ve been doing is just updating their older products & the only thing I’ve considered new is the XRT but that was in the end of 2022 wish they would bring something fresh/actually new to the table.
@DoRC
Күн бұрын
Yeah other than the sledge they haven't really brought out a completely new design in a while.
@stevemoon2136
26 күн бұрын
This makes me happy.
@DoRC
26 күн бұрын
:)
@RcSpeedFreak-kk8wj
27 күн бұрын
Let’s go!!!! Haha love it
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
I'm not sure what else will come of it but definitely fun to see.
@gwcrispi
23 күн бұрын
In five years, tracks will be running the Traxxas Modified as the spec dirt oval class. Sad, but true.
@DoRC
23 күн бұрын
You're probably right. I've heard they have sold a lot of them.
@gwcrispi
23 күн бұрын
For one thing, the Salvas class is based on a HCG Slash chassis and other parts that will be going away soon. Why buy a stock Slash and a Salvas kit for more money than a Traxxas Modified? Especially when the Modified is ready to race out of the box?
@DoRC
23 күн бұрын
@@gwcrispi Yeah for sure. From a customer point of view it definitely makes sense. It makes it feel even more though like Traxxas just used the mud boss name as a marketing tool never really intending to be able to get away with using it long-term
@KJ4ENS
19 күн бұрын
FYI, most already have
@jameswright5572
25 күн бұрын
Traxxis doing Traxxis crap. I hate them so much as a company.
@DoRC
25 күн бұрын
A lot of people do dislike them.
@KJ4ENS
19 күн бұрын
Yeah they probably hate you too
@jameswright5572
19 күн бұрын
@KJ4ENS they show it all the time to us hobbiests with their lawsuits. So yes, I absolutely do believe Traxxis gives a rats ass about the hobby or its patrons.
@tinapriest857
18 күн бұрын
They keep making the same thing over and over again putting a couple parts on it calling in a new truck or car
@DoRC
17 күн бұрын
Interestingly from what I've seen that's what some people like about Traxxas. They enjoy being able to use the same parts on cars year after year and not ever having to worry about running out of spares. It's not a point of view I've ever really thought about but it's definitely an interesting one
@JayRose904
24 күн бұрын
They used that name to generate a buzz, thats why barely any hobby shops got them and they didnt get many cause traxxas known this would happen but look now everybody knows about it
@DoRC
23 күн бұрын
It's entirely possible. That would explain why they didn't put the name on the car itself.
@polizei16
24 күн бұрын
No, the Traxxas mudboss/modified isn't for racing against Salvas Mudboss classes. At least no tracks I follow have said so.
@DoRC
23 күн бұрын
So I guess they just used the name to build hype then huh?
@KJ4ENS
19 күн бұрын
The Mudboss and Modified classes are completely different.
@polizei16
19 күн бұрын
@@DoRC idk what they were thinking to be honest.
@blairhammond5456
27 күн бұрын
this is awesome!
@DoRC
26 күн бұрын
:)
@tyrellcorp2118
25 күн бұрын
I really do love this. It’s also the reason I dislike Traxxas. They sued for Max! The most cliche product name you can think of! Every other product in the world used it before Traxxas.
@DoRC
25 күн бұрын
Yeah I can kind of understand them doing that for competition in the hobby but suing HBO for it seems a little odd. Then again I'm not them and I don't know what they know.
@andrewstamant5877
18 күн бұрын
Now the mud boss version of this car will be worth a lot later down the road
@DoRC
17 күн бұрын
It's possible. Rare doesn't inherently mean valuable but maybe!
@JustMe-oj1hd
17 күн бұрын
Yup just bought one
@DoRC
17 күн бұрын
@@JustMe-oj1hd keeping it in the box for a collector's item?
@JustMe-oj1hd
17 күн бұрын
@DoRC YES. I think it will be a good investment and a cool man cave display. Found it on ebay.
@DoRC
17 күн бұрын
@@JustMe-oj1hd Nice! Hopefully pays off :-)
@mitsuman5555
27 күн бұрын
Great summary
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
That you enjoyed and thanks for watching :-)
@bsfunk44
27 күн бұрын
Salvas never trademarked the Mudboss name so it was free to use. They changed the name anyway.
@DoRC
26 күн бұрын
Well sort of. I've heard from a trademark attorney that said trademark rates are assumed by the 1st user of something so Trax is still possibly could have gotten in trouble for it that being said Salvas did trademark the name a couple weeks ago. That's almost certainly what prompted them to change the name as they don't generally seem to do things out of the goodness of their hearts. At least in my opinion it's not really so much a matter of what they can get away with but a matter of what they should do. Traxxas has sued small companies for using fairly vague variations of their trademarked names so them having to change a name just feels kind of like a little bit of karma.
@RC-4-LIFE
27 күн бұрын
I love this Irony!!❤😂😂😂
@DoRC
26 күн бұрын
:)
@user-ud5xw8ox8g
25 күн бұрын
Traxxas is bash specific. No Traxxas can be competitive on the track next to Losi, AE, Tekno, Xray, etc. Traxxas is for the kids.
@DoRC
25 күн бұрын
That implies bashing is for kids. I know a lot of adults that bash :-) but then again maybe we're all kids. We are all playing with toy cars whether we're racing or bashing.
@KJ4ENS
19 күн бұрын
Lol yeah, keep thinking that.
@robertstrader5356
27 күн бұрын
That’s f**n badass
@DoRC
26 күн бұрын
:)
@bbeckers24
26 күн бұрын
Other yourtubers have been quick to defend Traxxass and say the name wasn't Trademarked and Traxxass gave up the name, pretty much out of the good of their heart. FYI, Salvas did finally trademark the name as of June 21, 2024. I don't Traxxass gave it up as nicely as others would lead you to believe.
@DoRC
26 күн бұрын
Yeah I have a hard time believing they did it out of the goodness of their own heart given their track record. It's a lot more likely that once the trademark application was put in they saw the writing on the wall and figured this was the cheapest way to get out of the problem while at the same time saving some face. But that's just my opinion and it's worth just about as much as anybody else's :-)
@Vladle2099
20 күн бұрын
Water boy likes the mud dogs and the mudboss
@DoRC
20 күн бұрын
Eh?
@Vladle2099
20 күн бұрын
@@DoRC watch the water boy Adam Sandler.
@DoRC
20 күн бұрын
@@Vladle2099 I saw it many many years ago. I guess I need to watch it again
@spleantrampoline
27 күн бұрын
Wonder if the packaging go will be worth anything in the future. I bought 1 the day they were available.
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
It's possible.
@lipoz-n-nitroz4012
27 күн бұрын
Maybe in 50yrs some douche might want an empty traxxcrap box that says mudboss and is willing to pay $150 for it.
@whirlybirdrc
6 күн бұрын
Well well well how the tables have turned. Feels shit doesn't it, Traxxas?
@DoRC
5 күн бұрын
I don't think it's going to be too costly for them as they're not getting sued or anything like that.
@DrJoy-cw7lt
23 күн бұрын
I was going to buy a Traxxas DCB M41 catamaran boat. Ironically today. Then I see this stuff. Guess I am not purchasing it.
@DoRC
23 күн бұрын
Yeah it's got to be a personal decision for everybody. I still buy Traxxas stuff but I make sure I'm frowning when I do it!
@matthewh6242
27 күн бұрын
I hate traxxas as a company but the slash platform is perfect. Parts are always available and cheap. You can buy a losi and parts will be backordered the same year of release
@DoRC
26 күн бұрын
Yeah the slash has been around a long time and definitely has a lot of fans. I've owned a few of them over the years and never had any particular problems with them
@Hungrybird474
27 күн бұрын
Happy 4th DoRc and all .
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
You too!
@edwinlomonaco6754
27 күн бұрын
Traxxas is doing the Apple thing. While not realizing that in the the people decide. Not the corporation.
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
I don't know apples doing pretty well.
@giostealthr1
27 күн бұрын
Buying one tomorrow
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
I'm tempted. They are cool
@giostealthr1
26 күн бұрын
@@DoRC I think my only issue is buying the original mud boss instead of the slash modified
@DoRC
26 күн бұрын
@@giostealthr1 I think it's just going to be a box change as I don't believe the branding is even on the car
@xWORLDxCHAMPIONx
9 күн бұрын
They filmed some of the promo video and took the product images at my home track.
@DoRC
8 күн бұрын
That's cool. Did they have a big film crew or was it just a couple of people?
@xWORLDxCHAMPIONx
8 күн бұрын
@@DoRC i think it was just a few guys. I wasn’t there at the time but I know The shots on the loose red dirt track are from Shaw’s RC track in Ardmore ok.
@DoRC
8 күн бұрын
@@xWORLDxCHAMPIONx gotcha. Yeah I've always been curious to know just how extravagant they get when making those promo videos.
@rogueFactor
27 күн бұрын
sweet Tejas Justice =D
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
:)
@cd-pu5uv
11 күн бұрын
They didn't get in trouble supposedly they willingly changed the name.
@DoRC
11 күн бұрын
That's debatable. Salvas trademarked the name and then a week later Traxxas changed the name of the vehicle. That seems like a bit more than a coincidence to me. My guess is that they saw the writing on the wall and then changed it "voluntarily" for PR reasons and to avoid a lawsuit
@cd-pu5uv
11 күн бұрын
@@DoRC yeah I wasn't sure what the real story is, that's why I used to the word supposedly. I did hear somewhere that salvas had no intentions of taking legal action, but maybe they were bluffing to get Traxxas to keep the name on it and start selling them so they could have a lawsuit. As of right now, I don't think they have a chance at a lawsuit anymore, or maybe the name change is an admission of guilt and they still have a case. I'm no lawyer. Lol.
@davedebruin5652
27 күн бұрын
Can u do a review on the new stampede 4x4 vxl hd? I think its a realy good package for the price, thank u
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
I'll keep it in mind though it's hard to do a review on something that hasn't recently come out as it tends to not get very many views.
@lyleallyssanashookpuk3636
27 күн бұрын
The Stampede “V”40?😂
@alantaylor353
22 күн бұрын
Traxxas thought they were the only ones who could sue people.?? I don't like Traxxas as a business.... I don't mind some of their products though.!
@DoRC
22 күн бұрын
Keep in mind there wasn't a lawsuit in this case I just think Traxxas saw the potential writing on the wall and decided to change the name before it became a problem
@zanderflander7880
27 күн бұрын
They knew it would make them rich and the other guy not rich 😂
@DoRC
26 күн бұрын
:)
@sons-braddalton
20 күн бұрын
Not reveling in this. Sony wish ill on anyone. Good lesson to learn here though
@DoRC
20 күн бұрын
Yeah I find it more of an interesting story than anything else
@theworldsokayestmichigande851
15 күн бұрын
That's fucking hilarious
@DoRC
14 күн бұрын
:)
@ShortCourseWorld
11 күн бұрын
Interesting.
@DoRC
10 күн бұрын
Indeed:)
@wolfpackrc
2 күн бұрын
Good that's why I don't own their junk.
@DoRC
Күн бұрын
Quite a few people feel that way.
@AdamStLouis-gn9ti
22 күн бұрын
Make them realize they arent untouchable mr.salvas.....
@DoRC
22 күн бұрын
I'm not sure it will actually change their attitude towards the industry but maybe :-)
@kevinperry9451
22 күн бұрын
The car drives like a brick with wheels. No way near the actual mudboss that has to buit on the bench. It will never be allowed to run with the actual 12t or 13.5 mb class.
@DoRC
22 күн бұрын
Interesting.
@KJ4ENS
19 күн бұрын
Lol your crazy. The car is perfect and handles much better than a standard mudboss conversion.
@Wanted1069
26 күн бұрын
Lmao! That's awesome!
@DoRC
26 күн бұрын
Some people would think so :-)
@Wanted1069
26 күн бұрын
@@DoRC I do. Karma is a Bitch!
@DoRC
26 күн бұрын
@@Wanted1069 :)
@wasa7
25 күн бұрын
Hilarious 😂
@DoRC
25 күн бұрын
:)
@paulsimons1164
18 күн бұрын
I would call it the mud pro
@DoRC
17 күн бұрын
:)
@alphawlff
27 күн бұрын
LOL! This is funny
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
:)
@just.jose.youtube
27 күн бұрын
Personally, I believe Traxxas planned all this from the beginning. It's the game they play, they wouldn't make a rookie mistake like this. The rig made a huge splash when it was released, obviously riding the "Mudboss" name and scene. Now they voluntarily rename the car so it doesn't seem that bad and reduce the probability of any significant blows. Meanwhile this copyright infringement gives extra free publicity to the car. I doubt this wasn't all intentional. Sneaky little bullies. 😏
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
It's entirely possible. That would explain why the mud boss name isn't on the car itself.
@guest6423
27 күн бұрын
Salvas applied for the "Mudboss" trademark on June 21, 2024. Sounds like he applied only when word of Traxxas' new car got to him. I think that Traxxas could have fought him and won, BUT they don't want to anger the entire Salvas Mudboss racing community. The Modified will eventually take over Mudboss racing, because it's a better, more durable car. Traxxas doesn't want to risk having Mudboss racers switch over to some other platform. WIll anyone give Traxxas any credit? Probably not.
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
I'm not sure they really deserve a lot of credit for doing something essentially when they were forced to. By trademarking the name Salvas essentially prevents Traxxas from using it. Now if Traxxas had chosen not to use the name out of respect for the original creator to begin with then that might be worth some credit.
@jerryvolpini7987
27 күн бұрын
Oh, the irony, and I have to admit, I was giddy with excitement thinking Traxxas might get a taste of their own medicine. Unfortunately, the story just isn't true. Traxxas did not get into trouble for using the Mudboss name nor was there a threat of a lawsuit. Salvas did not trademark the Mudboss name so, there was nothing stopping Traxxas from using the moniker. In fact, Steve Salvas made it clear they did not tell Traxxas they couldn't use the name. While Salvas might have contacted Traxxas about a collaboration, it never happened. While we may never know the whole story, the name change is more likely the result of confusion caused by Traxxas using the Mudboss name. Ultimately, the Traxxas Mudboss did not meet the guidelines for this class and Traxxas likely felt that people purchasing the kit might feel like they had been mislead. The Traxxas chassis more closely fits the Modified class rules and that appears to be the impetus behind the name change.
@DoRC
26 күн бұрын
I'm not sure I fully agree with that. First of all a trademark attorney told me that you don't actually have to get a trademarked to have rights to it as the first person to use a name has inherent right to it. Second there wasn't threat of a lawsuit but Traxxas only change the name after salvas filed for a trademark on it. I also don't think Traxxas would have stopped sales withdrawn the product and spent the money to have everything repackaged etc if they just wanted to alter the name to better fit the style of vehicle. It seems more likely that Traxxas saw Salvas trademark the name realized that they probably were going to get sued for using it if they didn't change it and then just decided to change it now rather than deal with it later.
@jerryvolpini7987
26 күн бұрын
@@DoRC Don't necessarily disagree. I think Traxxas might have seen the writing on the wall and that influenced the name change but Salvas did indicate they were good with them using the name. That being said, I know there was a huge outcry from the Mudboss community and the name was misleading. Not that Traxxas would necessarily care but I think it was definitely misleading and the issue with the trademark just made the name change a prudent move. That's why I said we may never know the full story but as it stands there was no threat of a lawsuit, at least not at this point. 👍
@andyb9994
22 күн бұрын
Now do you know Traxxas Got in "trouble" for using the mudboss name or just speculation because Traxxas changed the name? They didnt pull product from shelfs not at my local hobby shop anyway, they actually said they can still sell them with the mudboss name on the box...i hear this was a decision on Traxxas's part...Did salvas actually have copy rights to the name mudboss? no ody has been able to give a straight answer to that...but maybe it will come out in time on the reasons for the name change...👍👍
@DoRC
22 күн бұрын
So the only real facts that I'm aware of are that Traxxas released the mud boss, soon after salvas posted on their Facebook about about it and seemed pretty unhappy that it happened. Then I think on the 21st of June salvis applied for a trademark on the mud boss name and then a few days later Traxxas removed the mud boss name from all of their marketing and changed it to modified. I've heard but don't know for fact that Traxxas paused sales and pulled back at least some of their stock for relabeling. The rest as far as I know is speculation no matter who you're talking to. I think it's pretty unlikely that Traxxas would go through the trouble of changing the name if they didn't at least anticipate some sort of problem and given the timing with the trademark application it's hard to imagine those two things are coincidental. Interesting to note is that the mud boss name appears nowhere on The car and I'm pretty sure that's the only RC car Traxxas has released recently that doesn't have its name on it which leads me to think they might have either anticipated this or orchestrated this just to be able to use the mud boss name for temporary marketing purposes. That being said I have a hard time imagining Salvas applied for a trademark without intending to do anything else about the situation.
@andyb9994
22 күн бұрын
@@DoRCI can't believe Salvas didn't copyright the name long ago....Either way Traxxas saw all this coming and it all went like this for some reason whatever that may be....This isn't anything new to Traxxas...but yes maybe we will all get the truth one day!!!
@DoRC
22 күн бұрын
@@andyb9994 Yeah but to be fair we probably will never know. That's going to be some internal Traxxas stuff and we'll probably just be left with speculation. Definitely an interesting story though!
@andyb9994
22 күн бұрын
@@DoRCYep I can agree with that!!! Keep it up you have a great channel!!!!
@steveblackbird
26 күн бұрын
Brilliant...finally T brand gets a taste of what it's like... they should have been a bit smarter than that. A Big lol!
@DoRC
26 күн бұрын
It is interesting that they didn't put the mud boss name on the car itself. Kind of makes me wonder if they saw this coming
@forrestcozad3991
27 күн бұрын
Traxxas didn't "get in trouble" haha they just actually did the right thing for once.
@chickenfist1554
26 күн бұрын
They wouldn't have done the right thing unless forced to do so in one way or another. They're clearly not that type of company
@DoRC
26 күн бұрын
Not sure I agree with that. They only "did the right thing" after salvas filed for a trademark on the name. That sounds more like they saw the writing on the wall and figured they might as well go ahead and change it now rather than deal with it later.
@DoRC
26 күн бұрын
Yeah I mean it's possible that they did it out of the goodness of their own hearts but based on their history that seems kind of unlikely.
@shaynejenkins446
25 күн бұрын
They had to.
@TastierBackInThe80s
27 күн бұрын
Now watch anyone with the Mudboss branded packaging think its worth a kasquillion dollars. Traxxas Modified sounds better, and should have gone with that in the beginning.
@DoRC
26 күн бұрын
I agree. I think they were trying to cash in on the mud boss brand but honestly until I saw the Traxxas I had never even heard of mudboss. I saw the car and immediately thought open wheel modified
@reallythough4591
11 күн бұрын
Udr has the best suspension on planet, but the arma fireteam is the best offroad driver out there. Traxxas makes a decent product most of the time, but sell like they have a monopoly. Senton is tougher than the slash, and traxxas doesnt make anything to rival the typhon, closest is the b series from associated. All of the tenth scale having the exact same power syatem is ridiculous, but there you go. Spent all day at rc shop yanking another velinion for a drk in a drag slash. Once i trashed the garbage, she will move now.
@DoRC
10 күн бұрын
I think the UDR has great suspension for doing slow mo video but for actual bashing it's not for me at least. Rolls over way too easily
@reallythough4591
10 күн бұрын
@@DoRC try the fire team, bet you buy one once you drive em.
@mitchellminer4596
26 күн бұрын
Treat others the way you wanna be treated….. what my mother always said 😂 nice to hear those traxxas tyrants finally got a taste of their own medicine. Fastest name in rc to cause problems. 😂
@DoRC
26 күн бұрын
Yeah I don't think there's going to be a lawsuit or anything like that but they definitely had to do a little extra work
@BreydonsRC
26 күн бұрын
How does that taste Traxxas? 😅😂
@DoRC
25 күн бұрын
:)
@zaxpage9003
27 күн бұрын
According to sources traxxas chose to change the name under their own accord and was not in trouble for taking anyone's name.
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
Well thats nice of them.
@UnrivaledPiercer
27 күн бұрын
What sources?
@michaelo_p6319
27 күн бұрын
Somehow I dont see them going through all that work if they didn't have to.
@boduke9428
27 күн бұрын
Yep. Traxxas just a nice company. They wasted all that time and money out of the goodness of their hearts.
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
Yeah seems unlikely
@Pauly_______
27 күн бұрын
Karma is awesome
@DoRC
26 күн бұрын
Yeah I mean it's not like this was a huge thing but Traxxas is having to stop sales bring back a bunch of product relayable it etc
@RcPlayer-tt2vw
26 күн бұрын
What’s up brother, I wanted this car just because I grew up around modifieds , I wish we did have oval racing for regular folks or even RC . What do you think about buying traxxas support “ for guys like us ? Leaving you have a channel aside ? Than I figured if I want mudboss and worried about that get one from salvis because only 300 bucks but not going be fun without others to race , where the traxxas guy is ready for a crazy motor that make those tires 🛞 sound like a real modified “ those wheels pretty cool “ I had my arrma build out last night with Mojave wheels on tarmac really screeched intensively. Love it “
@DoRC
26 күн бұрын
I'm not sure exactly what you mean when you say buying Traxxas support. Can you elaborate please?
@RcPlayer-tt2vw
26 күн бұрын
@@DoRC I just mean buying traxxas still after they hurt the hobby as a whole , and the fact that we’re older and had have slashes . My LHS still has the first run saying mudboss but like you said doesn’t say it on the car so it’s not really going be collectible . Another note , couple companies are making BL systems for these groms . I like em pretty cool 😎
@DoRC
26 күн бұрын
@@RcPlayer-tt2vw oh yeah I have a couple of brushless Grom videos :-) As far as buying from Traxxas that's a tough one. I completely understand people not wanting to but I also completely understand people who just aren't worried about a company's business practices and want what they want. Would I buy Traxxas if I didn't have this channel? Honestly probably. I've never been the kind of person that would let an actors political views stop me from watching their movie or anything like that so whereas I don't think what Traxxas does is the best thing for the hobby It probably is the best thing for them and they are a business so it is at least somewhat understandable. Ultimately though it's just a personal decision and I don't think either way is necessarily wrong
@RcPlayer-tt2vw
26 күн бұрын
@@DoRC right on brother thanks for your input. Same here but I guess getting older and crankier 😝. Going home 🏠 now to run Rcs
@DoRC
26 күн бұрын
@RcPlayer-tt2vw It happens. Have fun!
@Brandon-Shifty
27 күн бұрын
Doesn't it go both ways though in order to do the conversion, you are using the slash base body to make the mudboss. Granted, Salvas would need to buy a slash, modify it and then resell it for profit to be in the wrong. Both parties need to comply it sounds like.
@DoRC
26 күн бұрын
It's an interesting thought though Salvas was really just selling an aftermarket part for the slash. I don't think they are any more in the wrong than any other aftermarket brand.
@Brandon-Shifty
26 күн бұрын
@DoRC Yeah you're not wrong they are just selling aftermarket parts so nothing wrong with that. The consumer buying the slash is the one modifying their purchase. Thanks for the video .
@DoRC
26 күн бұрын
@@Brandon-Shifty You're welcome thanks for watching :-)
@badd_jrc9769
21 күн бұрын
So I can sell my original mudboss for more🤔
@DoRC
21 күн бұрын
Maybe. Rare doesn't always equal valuable but you never know :-)
@Andrewjames116
24 күн бұрын
Now days people just look at you funny or say something to people and they want to sue you for it
@DoRC
24 күн бұрын
Yeah it's not the best.
@iankibbler5616
19 күн бұрын
Hopefully they get sued 😂
@DoRC
17 күн бұрын
I think it's unlikely to happen. They almost certainly did this in reaction to the name getting trademarked as to avoid a lawsuit
@inspireonex
21 күн бұрын
Get shidd on Traxxas
@DoRC
20 күн бұрын
:)
@JonnieB.
27 күн бұрын
I sure hope they have to pay out big time
@DoRC
26 күн бұрын
I don't think it's going to come to a lawsuit so they probably won't end up having to pay anything
@kashmurray1199
27 күн бұрын
I knew that would happen. You think your untouchable and bam. Traxxas Modified sounds better.
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
I agree
@lyleallyssanashookpuk3636
27 күн бұрын
I suppose it’s only ok to sue if you are another company besides Traxxas? I would be a complete retard if I didn’t patent or trademark anything I worked on for years
@DoRC
27 күн бұрын
Many people don't realize that they need to protect their IP until someone tries to take it. I don't think anybody would fault Traxxas for suing someone who stole their original idea and used it as their own. Most people get upset attractions for doing things like patenting concepts that have been around a very long time and have even already been used on other RC cars then suing other people for using those same ideas.
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