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@azikiwesnay7718
4 жыл бұрын
I want monica and chandler. You ouwe us that. Remember? You people support the toxicity of Rachel and Ross but refuse to support the beautiful and healthy relationship that is Monica and Chandler. Joey and Phoebe were covered and they were never a couple even Gunther and Janice. Please guys Monica and Chandler are worth mentioning they should be celebrated
@trinaq
4 жыл бұрын
@@azikiwesnay7718 Seconded, they already have Roschel and Joebe centred videos, now all we need is a Mondler one!😻💘
@azikiwesnay7718
4 жыл бұрын
@@trinaq Yes please Mondler should be iconic. Now thats the kind of love people should aspire to, stop celebrating the toxic Ross and Rachel
@JB-ex8ko
4 жыл бұрын
Why are you still promoting this scam?
@azikiwesnay7718
4 жыл бұрын
@@JB-ex8ko me?
@anaespinosa5084
4 жыл бұрын
The worst part about having been the smart girl your entire life is when you realize you were only smart in comparison to your peers but in the real world your intelligence is mostly average. Suddenly the one quality you once thought gave you an advantage over others isn't even real anymore.
@divpreetkaur8381
3 жыл бұрын
Why u exposing me like that?lmaaooo
@clementiefreya
3 жыл бұрын
and now you dont even know what youre good at anymore and suddenly your future goals dont seem reachable anymore
@marif2993
3 жыл бұрын
wow thanks for expressing my worst fear :)
@beashemmad.sayson545
3 жыл бұрын
facts bestie
@bull3tcoff1n
3 жыл бұрын
You really do be here calling us out, this is exactly how I feel.
@DKsilverghost
4 жыл бұрын
I really dislike how a lot of those 'overly perfectionist' type of smart girl are portrayed. It's almost like they can't just show a girl who's smart and really ambitious - they have to make her almost neurotic too. As if a girl can't get good grades just because she's smart and curious and enjoys studying.
@BeeHatGuy
4 жыл бұрын
That would make the character a Mary Sue
@kaitlnwhite6809
4 жыл бұрын
I disagree. I’m intelligent and ambitious and while I’ve run into problems with the idea of perfection, I don’t see why you have to be vilified or seen as a lesser person because of it. You should never be fault for doing what you care about or doing what you love. Being passionate about learning and knowledgeable is a fundamental part of this archetype and many real people.
@izzydog111
4 жыл бұрын
@@BeeHatGuy they can make them smart without this specific stereotype. Eg. I'm a complete idiot but I still stashing As
@mercygal1
4 жыл бұрын
This trope makes for some weird IRL stereotypes too. I wasn't a good student in high school, but in college I started studying and consistently got straight A's. And once during college, my grades were brought up and my older neighbor was like "what happens if you get a B?" And after a bizarre line of questioning, it became apparent that she didn't think that I would be able to emotionally handle getting a B. I barely graduated highschool. She was there. Like how in the hell would getting good grades instantly destroy my ability to cope with minor disappointment?
@Yuyupi14
4 жыл бұрын
I believe this media portrayal of 'smart girls' and irl 'smart girls' influence each other. The trope considers how much societal pressure affects young women, since the tiniest mistake can invalidate their intelligence and make them the subject of mockery. I don't think this is explicitly shown quite enough, but it is able to explain the neuroticism in some of these characters. Personally, I do find myself relating to the overly perfectionist type. Societal stereotypes and parental expectations for East Asians, I believe, have helped shape my own expectations regarding academic achievement. That aside, perhaps Maeve from Sex Education is a good divergent example of this trope?
@samynaxaidan
4 жыл бұрын
I think one key point missed is that the smart girl is smart because she is a hardworker. There's still the trope that she has to work hard, to study hard to achieve the same success. Not often will they be simply a genius.
@joaninha3484
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent point. The smart guy is often a natural genius whereas the smart girl has to work for it.
@lorrie9462
4 жыл бұрын
This is because smart women are questioned of their legitimacy in the way that smart men aren’t, so she has to be seen working twice as hard
@joanageorge205
4 жыл бұрын
I think Lindsay from Freaks and Geeks is a nice exception. If I remember correctly she even has a line that goes something like "I can't be in the top 1%! I don't work that hard. Are the kids in Michigan that stupid?". The video didn't do justice to her character at all. She really doesn't fit this trope at all.
@leannepardypower397
4 жыл бұрын
you're comment makes me really angry and immediately defensive but I guess that's how I know you're right. These stereotypes are honestly so depressing.
@spinacetta89
4 жыл бұрын
Agree that it wasn't pointed out in the video, but some of the characters portrayed are actually smart without seemingly working too hard: Lindsay from F&G, Cady from Mean Girls, and I'd argue even Rory to a point, particularly when confronted with Paris (they are both shown to study really hard, but while Paris pushes extra hard, Rory still seems to perform better, and more effortlessly, in the end); the whole point of Booksmart was that the main character thought that to be successful academically she had to work hard but she discovered that others, who wheren't so focused on studying, were equally successful (hence the title). Princess Shuri is the ultimate genius, and is never shown to study, she is the smartest person in the MCU universe, does everything effortlessly.
@adeladybughowell1703
4 жыл бұрын
Remember٫ there is a difference between doing good in school and being smart.
@susanjoyce4244
4 жыл бұрын
This needs more likes
@swl6786
4 жыл бұрын
That's true. The example is me, a good student but dumb as hell. :")
@flowergirl5962
4 жыл бұрын
*doing well
@evitasidera7259
4 жыл бұрын
So many people seem to just not understand that
@justanotherpersonthatdraws8232
4 жыл бұрын
Nice, now your giving me a headache thinking about if I'm smart or just good in school XD
@yes8297
4 жыл бұрын
I feel like they should make a smart girl that doesn’t obsess over going to Ivy League or something.
@yes8297
4 жыл бұрын
And is a perfectionist or whatever.
@onlylauren4712
4 жыл бұрын
I obsess over Ivy League and I'm perfectionist.... And my ass is black, it likely doesnt exist 😂😂😂
@Southforthewinter
4 жыл бұрын
How about a smart girl who’s really attractive and doesn’t care about school or success
@crowe3627
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. A waste of potential. Exactly what we need to see.
@heatherheath3834
4 жыл бұрын
@@crowe3627 It doesn't have to be a waste of potential. Give me a previous 'smart girl' who does practical subjects, like tech, hospitality, or goes into the creative arts like music (which is seen as a 'smart' thing anyway), art or drama because there's value in different types of intelligence too. Academic subjects are all fine and well, but ivy league schools aren't the ideal for creative types. Give me a smart girl who wants to go to Julliard, the RCS, The Royal College of Music, ect. It's harder to get into Julliard than it is to get into Harvard because of the amount of skill needed, plus the sheer number of applicants, all in underfunded disciplines which require massive amounts of self study and dedication to get anywhere. Or if they're still interested in science and shit, what about sound and light production? You need physics, maths and chemistry in order to use pyrokinetics safely and on a large scale, how to rig up stadiums to be up one minute and down the next on command, ect ect. Yeah ivy leagues are good, but for sheer connections other institutions are better.
@ellie4328
4 жыл бұрын
“This says women can either be smart or pretty” Guess I break the stereotype as I’m not either
@fluffybirdy7720
4 жыл бұрын
I bet this is not true.
@izzydog111
4 жыл бұрын
A mood
@zigzaglychee7324
4 жыл бұрын
Lmaooo same girl same
@marie-henrietterixhon1882
4 жыл бұрын
Ooh self burn. Those are rare
@goodnightmyprince2716
4 жыл бұрын
Same
@fakecore9811
4 жыл бұрын
If y'all haven't already, you should break down the nice guy trope! Or the protagonist who the "Cool girl" is written for
@timothyo718
4 жыл бұрын
fake core I have some good ideas for male character tropes that I hope to see: -Short angry tough guy (e.g. Joe Pesci, Al Pacino). Man has a short fuse and has something to prove. -Funny fat guy that hangs out with the popular crowd but has no female love interest. Acts as comic relief and uses self-deprecating humor -Smart/nerdy Asian guy (trope that limits the idea that an Asian guy could be a slacker, not academically inclined) -Asian martial arts masters (applies to both males and females) Angry black woman trope (black women aren’t often cast in roles as being shy, soft-spoken, and ultra feminine
@fakecore9811
4 жыл бұрын
@@timothyo718 I definitely remember watching a video on the angry black woman trope, but I can't remember who it was from? I tried searching but couldn't get results for the video I watched, but it was really well done. But yes! Id love to see this channel take on these tropes too!
@fakecore9811
4 жыл бұрын
@@Onlinerando that's also a neat idea tbh! with my original comment, i wrote it because of those films with female protagonists who get dumped by their probably dumb jock or just douchebag boyfriends, and either fall in love with their best friend who's been in love with her for ages and was basically just waiting for her to get dumped/dump her boyfriend, or they fall for a "nice guy" who's also kind of a douchebag, so that could also make for a "character duo" video
@milkman8467
4 жыл бұрын
ted mosby and gus cruikshank
@dustinmaxwell259
4 жыл бұрын
@@Onlinerando "the “career driven woman” and “underachiever guy with potential”,- Kim Possible
@lisah8438
4 жыл бұрын
And I also like to mention smart people are not always straight A students. There are people who are smart but don't even try in school. I would love to see a storyline like that.
@altycoggydeer
4 жыл бұрын
I think Lyra from the 2019 series His Dark Materials is like that. At times she`s more courageous than smart, but her strategic way of thinking makes her equal to the adults of this world, even though she`s just 12 years old during the first season.
@notyourmum7883
4 жыл бұрын
I feel like Buffy Summers from Buffy the Vampire slayer is like that...she isn’t a straight A student but is still wise beyond her years. She makes mistakes but learns from them and always wants to protect her friends and the people she loves. It’s easy to dismiss her as tough dumb blonde but she’s much more powerful than that both physically and mentally. Idk that’s just my take.
@childofgod759
4 жыл бұрын
I feel like people associate good grades with intelligence. There are people who are complete idiots but have straight A's, and geniuses who dont try at school. Lol
@isa12rae
4 жыл бұрын
Ferris Beuller
@violetraven8323
4 жыл бұрын
I love the point you made, I believe that’s the next best step forward for “smart girls” or smart characters in general. There are several forms of intelligence and fiction hasn’t fully explored them all with the depth I think it can. Show us smart characters who aren’t straight A students but has a reputation of intelligence and wisdom beyond there years for a reason. Have popular kids who are also smart- and how they dress and act doesn’t rule there IQ. Let’s have characters that express multiple forms of intelligence in unique ways. Most of the time I’ve been treated and perceived as the smart girl even though I’ve never gotten straight A’s in my life. I want more character like that- I feel like plenty of authors could do them justice and teach a much needed lesson to audiences.
@umbrellacorporation4435
4 жыл бұрын
Heathers is one of the few 80's movies that depict a multi-layered smart girl. Veronica is a mix of the tough girl, the cool girl and the smart girl.
@tychowozniaki9269
4 жыл бұрын
And through the Heathers she also gets to be the superficial pretty girl.
@FabalociousDee
4 жыл бұрын
Heathers is amazing. One of my favourite movies.
@mysticc6232
4 жыл бұрын
And played by Winona Ryder so like she's perfection
@xubs5919
4 жыл бұрын
YAS
@mariunfabregas7533
4 жыл бұрын
And then the musical came and ruined her character by turning her into just another one-dimensional, quirky, "I'm NoT lIkE tHe OtHeR gIrLs" girl. Don't get me wrong, the soundtrack of the musical was a banger, but I always hated the way they devolved her badass character. Along with the fact that they turned JD into this emo, tragic, soft boi UwU™ character instead of portraying him as the manipulative psychopath he truly was :/
@sugaredoleander409
4 жыл бұрын
I love seeing women in media who get to be smart but also pretty or athletic or extroverted or assertive or a basket case or all of them while also having their individual flaws and strengths. It's just a lot more reflective of reality and real women who are always multi-dimensional.
@Ps3luvr260
4 жыл бұрын
You know all people are multi-dimensional right not just women
@Bloomingtide
4 жыл бұрын
@@Ps3luvr260 Yes obviously, and still you often get subpar, one-dimensional/cliche writing when it comes to female characters in particular, whereas male characters are put front and center in stories and its narrative. Things are slowly changing thankfully but equal representation is still far from where it should be.
@Ps3luvr260
4 жыл бұрын
Bloomingtide thats a simply untrue fact in modern Hollywood. Just remember time does move so it’s not always going to be 20 years ago when these things were true. Modern Hollywood is clearly pro feminism with a vast focus on female leads and main characters as a posed to males. Just because female characters were one dimensional in the past doesn’t mean it’s okay to act like there the only ones who face this treatment. A one dimensional character is bad whether or not they are a female
@Future_Pheonix
4 жыл бұрын
@@Ps3luvr260 I think they meant that most female characters in the past were often even more one dimensional and were simply put in place either to be eye-candy, the bitch, or just "that one female character". Of course, this wasn't true in all cases and sometimes the man was one dimensional too, but they'd often be glorified for it rather than vilified or ridiculed. And today we're facing the perfect mary-sue type of character, that isn't helping women's image in society at all. But things are slowly changing and I hope women and men start being represented more realistically in popular media soon.
@nicelypenn
4 жыл бұрын
@@Bloomingtide Tell that to Homer or Sophocles.
@UATU.
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Take, would you consider covering the trope of ugly=evil? In lit and films unattractiveness is often used as an indicator of character and motivation but you never see much analysis of the trope. Love your channel ❤️
@trinaq
4 жыл бұрын
I second that! In the "Wizard of Oz", Glinda tells Dorothy that "Only Bad witches are ugly", which sends an unfortunate implication in that villainous women are unattractive, while the heroines are typically conventionally cute.
@All-Hail-Gayle
4 жыл бұрын
Old as evil too
@kerrychristensen7204
4 жыл бұрын
Harry Potter!
@UATU.
4 жыл бұрын
Kerry Christensen That was at the top of my mind. Rowling did it a lot with the Slytherin characters, e.g. “pug-faced Pansy Parkinson”. I’ve always thought it pretty damned lazy writing.
@kerrychristensen7204
4 жыл бұрын
@@All-Hail-Gayle the old Crone, bitter and plotting to take down other women/ manipulate men because she's lost her youth/beauty
@shrutimahant
4 жыл бұрын
Harry Potter gave us two drastically contrasting smart girl characters too, Hermione Granger and Luna Lovegood. Only they are both imperfect in their own ways and both very much real.
@elenapelayo2101
3 жыл бұрын
probably why they're my two favorite characters, coming from someone who's often been labelled as the "smart girl"
@Meg_intheclouds
2 жыл бұрын
And yet I am a combo of both somehow 😂
@jeremiahnoar7504
2 жыл бұрын
I wanted to agree at first, but it might be a bit of a stretch to call Luna Lovegood a smart girl. She has a lot of ideas which occasionally end up really helping Harry, but her being the "weird girl" takes away from her being the smart girl.
@Meg_intheclouds
2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremiahnoar7504 the idea I think is that she’s a creative kind of smart, she sees the world differently and so can come up with stuff no one else does
@SingingSealRiana
2 жыл бұрын
@@Meg_intheclouds same
@jazzy3037
4 жыл бұрын
you should analyze "the redhead girl" trope.. aways an eccentric weirdo or an overly sexed up siren
@aliowens1870
4 жыл бұрын
Jasmine Welter Absolutely!!!!! Please do this!!!
@crod9905
4 жыл бұрын
Except for Agent Scully!
@jazzy3037
4 жыл бұрын
C Rod shes an outlier 😌
@KindredKeepsake
4 жыл бұрын
+Jasmine Welter Or a massive mega-bitch. T_T It's so mean.
@talknight2
4 жыл бұрын
Well, I still haven't met a redhead who was a "normal, average person".
@asterfall8019
4 жыл бұрын
My favourite is elle woods, she proves you can be good at anything and still be that girly girl.
@Passions5555
4 жыл бұрын
YES!
@imsad8531
4 жыл бұрын
and also be friendly and help other students instead of viewing everything as a competition
@Passions5555
4 жыл бұрын
@@imsad8531 this!
@asterfall8019
4 жыл бұрын
im sad right
@Underpants678
4 жыл бұрын
Long live Queen Elle!
@r.babylon2885
4 жыл бұрын
This "confidence" study just seems like smart people in general. Most intelligent people I've met have serious issues because they view things differently. Suicide rates are higher. Hell, there's an episode of Simpsons where Lisa makes a graph about it when Homer finds his newfound intellect problematic.
@tavern2468
4 жыл бұрын
I always think about that episode about his crayon 🖍 in the brain. That’s why they say Ignorance is bliss
@helloworld7818
4 жыл бұрын
Intellectual people have more consciousness and cognitive functions. So they are much more existential, and don't get conformed with things that other people are satisfied with, they're usually deeper than the rest. There are two kind of smart people: the ones that are smart because study a lot, and the ones that are smart because their brains work differently from the rest. Everyone can study a lot and get good grades. But not everyone can be deep and phylosophical or analize everything that sorrounds them. Dumber people are highly satisfied with their basic lives: they love eating, doing sports, getting a job, and getting married and having a family and having a lot of sex. This is just what every human being wants and they're just satisfied with this. If you look at this, you wouldn't see any difference between a chimp and a human. These are the same aspirations as a chimp could have. Intelligent people want something bigger and further, sometimes something unachievable. That's why people who study physics or maths study these things, not always, but it's because they see farther than just being a car mechanic. Or whatever
@samtheflutegirl1373
4 жыл бұрын
I think this is because, and I liked that this video addressed this, smart people think differently than other people and that makes it difficult to relate to others. Being smart isn’t just knowing a lot of facts, it’s having an innate desire to understand how things work and put that knowledge to use. So when I’m explaining to my friends a cool way to solve a problem and they just want the answer their brains are operating in a way that is fundamentally different from mine, a way I can’t understand. And that can be very isolating.
@perennementeh4049
4 жыл бұрын
Hello World I have a university degree in math and I want exactly what other "basic " people want, a happy quiet life. Being intelligent doesn't mean to want to end unhappy or to achieve the impossible, nor to consider getting married, being sportive etc as chimp desires; anyway, at the end of the day, we are animals but try to not fall in the " I'm so intelligent that I see all other people as mediocre" . Furthermore, having a high iq and don't use it to have culture and knowledge doesn't sound smart, especially if you live in the occident and you have all the privileges other people around the world don't have. I remember in the high school, the man who clean the classrooms etc I always use to see him reading book from Dumas, Dostoevskij etc that means all intelligent people have culture but not all the people with a degree are intelligent.
@helloworld7818
4 жыл бұрын
@@perennementeh4049 having a university degree in maths doesn't mean you're intelligent. It just means you studied. Anyone can do the degree they want just by studying. That doesn't make you a conscious individual, nor intellectual.
@adaada4847
3 жыл бұрын
Whenever I see a content related to being smart vs being pretty. I keep thinking about our biology teacher in high school who said that a woman can not be beautiful, smart and funny at the same time. He said that there would always be something missing. He said this to 16 year old girls. I didn’t realize how toxic it was till now...
@she_wizzdom4410
3 жыл бұрын
What a perfect piece of shit
@anaionescu8913
Жыл бұрын
I used to think that too, as a teenager, but then I became hot and completed the trifecta 😂
@krishafyme
Жыл бұрын
He's yet to meet me
@asher-360
6 ай бұрын
it's probably because all the "beautiful, smart, and funny" girls avoided that man like the plague because they were too good for him :p
@irenelehane290
4 жыл бұрын
You should do "philosophic, smart, depressed" trope and "morally grey, cold, smart, ruthless, powerful, manipulative " trope I dont know if they exist but i would love to watch it 👌👌
@usushshshshhshahahs9661
4 жыл бұрын
hah basically maeve wiley
@arkieologist
4 жыл бұрын
First trope sounds like me
@trinaq
4 жыл бұрын
One thing I love about contemporary media is many works show that you can have brains AND beauty, you don't have to choose between them. I adored how in "Booksmart", they showed that just because the popular kids MAY focus on partying and having fun, doesn't mean that their futures are less bright than brainy protagonists Molly and Amy. It's cool to be smart, as fellow smart girls Matilda Wormwood, Annie Edison and Lisa Simpson demonstrate!💜📚
@unprofessionalcritic3107
4 жыл бұрын
This is the main reason I loved booksmart so much. I've never seen any other media demonstrate this. It's not like there's only a couple brainy students in any institute. A lot of them ARE very smart but not all of them are nerdy - glass wearing- don't know how to dresss or party type.
@adotburr6494
4 жыл бұрын
This is unrelated, but I like your profile picture (The Addams Family is awesome)
@trinaq
4 жыл бұрын
@@adotburr6494 Oh, thank you very much!😊 You're a fellow musical theatre fan, I see, "Wicked" is one of the BEST musicals ever created!💚🎭
@Pikachu-vu2ri
4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree!! Do you know what show is 11:00????
@GreenWhimsy
4 жыл бұрын
YES! Matilda definitely should have been included! Though I guess she's too young to be struggling with the same level of social pressures at school as the more common teen smart girls.
@LittleHobbit13
4 жыл бұрын
_"Having beauty or brains is an either/or."_ This was one of my biggest complaints about Big Bang Theory. They fell HARD into this stupid narrative. The pretty women were painted as dumb even against the "nerd" intellect, and the nerdy/smart women all had something physically unappealing. The only real exception, Leslie Winkle, ended up being shifted off because she and Leonard disagreed on a theory -- A THEORY -- and so he and and Sheldon dismissed her intelligence as undesirable. For a show made while we're trying to move away from that either/or, it was a pretty bullshit depiction.
@ebonyplummer4621
4 жыл бұрын
How about Bernadette? She was both pretty and very smart. I think she was the smartest character.
@LittleHobbit13
4 жыл бұрын
@@ebonyplummer4621 Her height. They literally made a running joke out of how short she was.
@bobbaby6170
4 жыл бұрын
LittleHobbit13 I don’t like Big Bang theory as well. It’s a show mocking nerds written by high school bullies. But Penny is street smart if not book smart, Bernadette is pretty, she just doesn’t dress up as much (which is nearer to the reality of such people). Also, they go super harsh about this stereotype on the men than women (and sadly you didn’t even mention it).
@TheRedHaze3
4 жыл бұрын
Being short does not detract from a woman's attractiveness. Even if it's made into a joke.
@PlanetZoidstar
4 жыл бұрын
Big Bang Theory is a series drenched in stereotypes and problematic storytelling. That's the kind of show it is.
@megasocky
4 жыл бұрын
Ooh thats where the "i hate highschool" quote came from. Other than that, the whole "being attracted to the freaks of the school" feels so real. Not because theyre quirky, but theyre usually the most real and accepting of you. Theres an egotistical part of me that wishes to be more popular and distance myself from them, but i always feel drained and surrounded by shallow people when i try to chase after the upper people
@hayleysataniaa_
4 жыл бұрын
what film is that? can u pls tell me :(
@hadild.8007
4 жыл бұрын
sayaka igarashi it’s a tv show called Freaks and Geeks
@tamarag9975
4 жыл бұрын
I feel like you should evaluate some of these tropes. The dumb jock, the blank protagonist, the new girl/guy, the delinquent with a heart of gold, the nice guy, good girl and bad guy love story, "she can fix him" cliche Please reply some of your favorites and I'll edit them here
@keilamedrano1298
4 жыл бұрын
The nice guy trope
@trinaq
4 жыл бұрын
The "Good Girl" being attracted to the "Bad Boy" and the "Nice Guys Finish Last" trope!😊💗
@afiamahmood1313
4 жыл бұрын
The bastard boyfriend and the bastard girlfriend trope where a characters abusive attitude towards their love interest is romanticized.
@Firegen1
4 жыл бұрын
There isn’t much to say about the “blank protagonist”. It’s an audience insert character. They are built so audience can put their own personality on top supposedly. It’s deeply silly as people always engage with motivated characters who think like them instead of the blank slate but that’s all there is to it.
@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254
4 жыл бұрын
I can't help but think of Nancy Wheeler as a Smart Girl and a Tough Girl. (Thanks for including her in a clip) I love that you tied this in with your dumb blonde video. Joan Holloway is both Mean Girl and Cool Girl (except not freaking skinny) and the Smart Girl.
@analeonorcastilloramirez5085
4 жыл бұрын
Jessica Victoria Carrillo remember that the cool girl stands for men’s fantasy, and in the sixties curves where the thing.
@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254
4 жыл бұрын
@@analeonorcastilloramirez5085 True
@ryleehiggins2142
4 жыл бұрын
Wow that’s so true about Joan! Ugh I love her
@ethicallysourceddonuts
4 жыл бұрын
Nancy Wheeler is one of my favorite characters. I love how they bring Robin and not even a strand of competitiveness is put between the two. Although i think Robin's sexuality might have something to do with it, but i'll take whatever i can get man. In my opinion Nancy is at core a smart girl, which is true to her introduction and until the last season when she's fully aware that she's way overqualified for her job. What's great about nancy i feel like we need to give some credit to prominent male characters in her life too, such as 1. Presumably her dad who taught her how to use a gun, and 2. Jonathan who ditched his job because he believes in his girlfriend's vision. The truth is you can never really change a smart girl, not even a system, or collective shaming, stereotyping or sometimes downright ostracizing, so the least you can do as a part of a group who isn't a smart girl is just let her be who she is, or at times give her a little hand to be the awesome person that she is. Because best believe even without your help she's gonna get there herself so at least what we should do is make the world a little less hostile. And as for why i think she's a smart girl first, i think she became tough BECAUSE she is smart, the fuck-it-ill-do-it-myself type.
@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254
4 жыл бұрын
@@ethicallysourceddonuts Honestly I always thought her sarcastic "Have you seen my parents?" Meant that Ted and Karen are neither outdoorsy people who get their hands on heavy duty weapons or tools
@sokkvabekkr5973
4 жыл бұрын
actually I think the glasses being associated with intelligence might come from the fact that reading a lot (like, a LOT) will hurt your eyes. I had perfect eyes as a kid but now as a teenager I had to get glasses and my eye doctor said it was because of how much I read as a kid and as a teenager. And usually ppl who read a lot are more educated and thus seem/are smart
@dustydoe7436
4 жыл бұрын
What if you read fan fiction porn all the time? It's still reading are those people smart?
@childofgod759
4 жыл бұрын
@@dustydoe7436 pfffttt-
@AD-eg9cw
4 жыл бұрын
And we're all reading right now...
@funkyfranx
4 жыл бұрын
When people read, or stare at screens, they tend to blink less. This dries your eyes out and can potentially harm your vision. Not specifically reading books.
@sokkvabekkr5973
4 жыл бұрын
@@dustydoe7436 and that's why I said *usually* lol
@marchforth3515
4 жыл бұрын
I’ve never felt more like a “smart girl” than I have felt from this video. although I am a huge procrastinator and don’t like to do more than I need to lmao
@prateekshyaayushi4155
3 жыл бұрын
Same!
@julespeace3901
3 жыл бұрын
Same. When I left everything in last minute I feel like I waste part of my potential.
@ummesalmatahir6745
3 жыл бұрын
Lol same
@rosejasminegwyn-willis824
4 жыл бұрын
May I point out some badly made trends and misunderstandings with this trope? 1. The smart girl being used as google search. The only time she talks is when the movie/story wants to pass some information to the audience. 2. Being smart= being 100% logical. They dont have morals, emotions or pretty much any feeling that makes them something other than a robat. 3. Look stereotypes. More glasses and less blonds are typical for this role 4. The smart girl that needs help. Dont even let me get started on this one. The smart nerdy girl that is just so desperate for love until the moment her party girl friend gives her the makeover and removes her glasses and suddenly she is saved and is allowed to shine. Great. Just great. 5. The girl that we are constently told that is smart (usually by the love interest) while there is nothing to show that since she is too busy being romantic and pretty. 6. The smart girl being compared to the main character, often trying to say that the main character is the real genius here while the smart girl is just a bookworm know it all. Because that would glorify the main character. 7. This character rarely shows up as main character and when she does she is changed to make sure she wont bore everyone with constant lectures. 8. Again the problem with being one dimensional. The smart girl can't fight, can't be pretty, can't like music, is too busy correcting people's gammatical mistakes and oh she absolutely can't have bad grades because being smart equals being best at school right? 😑
@caseywilde7931
4 жыл бұрын
Dude I hate these stereotypes. Hollywood really went all out on making the most one-dimensional character ever with this trope. I'm glad smart girls are starting to turn into real characters now. Although, I do ironically fit into the stereotype of a smart brunette with glasses xddd
@rosejasminegwyn-willis824
4 жыл бұрын
@@caseywilde7931 i do too 😂
@dax_enfinity
3 жыл бұрын
@@caseywilde7931 Same I also fit into the stereotype of being a brunette smart girl with glasses and I’m also tall
@christianali5431
Жыл бұрын
Not another teen movie: "how can a girl with a ponytail AND glasses ever be beautiful enough?" The real-world facts of life: because that girl is going places and is probably destined to get a really awesome and high-paying job, which means that whoever was lucky enough to become her husband, can kick back in life and have virtually no responsibilities at all, except maybe homemaking and caring for his children. I don't know a man alive that wouldn't want that. Getting a job is boring AF.
@luhaguilar
4 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ, I just found out that I’m a walking Hollywood trope. The ovethinker, hypersensitive and insecure girl whose grades always preceded me. The only difference is that I’m so insecure that sometimes I don’t even have the confidence that the usual smart girls do have. Nice...
@debbieuzo9362
4 жыл бұрын
Me too😪
@ingeborg418
4 жыл бұрын
Same
@hindsightpov4218
4 жыл бұрын
Luiza Aguilar Have confidence by trusting your instincts. When you see your instincts led you to making good decisions, use that to build your self esteem.
@rainbowcake4771
4 жыл бұрын
Agatha z No. Hollywood tropes are taking certain characteristics of real people and then reducing them to extreme stereotypes.
@Missmaddiemac
4 жыл бұрын
I’m in this post and I don’t like it 😩🙃
@squidwardtentacles7144
4 жыл бұрын
I love how being "smart" is associated with academics and book smarts when the dictionary definition says nothing about that(smart:having or showing a quick-witted intelligence). That's all being smart is. It has nothing to do with academics. You can have good grades in school and still be "dumb". You can be smart in school and dumb on the streets. To me intelligence varies. You can be knowledgeable about one thing and ignorant when it comes to another. We shouldn't associate having good grades with being smart because that's simply just isn't the case.
@brandon9635
2 жыл бұрын
I'm sad I didn't see this yet , so damn right
@sarcodonblue2876
2 жыл бұрын
A person could have dyslexia and have terrible trouble with written communication and maths but could be incredibly intelligent and insightful.
@nataliemunoz8600
4 жыл бұрын
I hope my story helps someone: I've been the "smart girl" my whole life. And this is 100% accurate. I was also good at athletism and have other talents as good at drawing, artistic, good at languages (my native language is spanish) etc. That's also a lot of pressure you put to yourself. You have to be always right, and be excellent at everything. I studied Industrial Design because it combines art and technical skills. What I can confirm, is being the smart kid can be lonely at times. For some reason, people don't like when you are smarter than them, have multiple talents or you are right most of the time. Specialy men (as a romantic interest). You can be as smart or less smart than them, but never smarter. You can be, but then you will be just friends. Now I'm 37, and after years of analizing and overthinking about people, I have reached a level of understanding of "this is just the way it is". It's not bad or wrong, it's just human nature. And now, I don't give a shit of what people I don't know think about me. I can act or be stupid sometimes, but I know I'm mostly smart. I can make mistakes and not feel pressure to be always right. It also helps that I work for one of the most important tech companies, and they embrace learn by doing and trial and error. Also there a lot of smart people in there, so you feel like just another one. But for sure, I can recommend: use your full potential, do not hold back just to fit in. If the people around you is not happy with that then change your circle of friends. Be the best, and try to join the best. And if you can't, then do it alone. But do it. Some of the worst things in life, is to waste your talents. That's why they are called "gifts". Use them.
@RealNormHall
4 жыл бұрын
When it comes to dating smartness can be the same money for women where she might want you if you are rich as her or richer than her but NOT poorer than her, sad! But as with everything not everybodys the same, eg I know many women who know many guys that are into them intelligence and all but choose the guys that are problematic instead and leave the other guys in the friend zone.
@nataliemunoz8600
4 жыл бұрын
@@RealNormHall interesting comparison.
@sunny100294
4 жыл бұрын
I'm not super smart, but probably above average. Most men I have dated were "not as smart" as me, or at least they were always in awe of how smart I was. Also in my group at friends (we're master's students and some starting their PhDs now) all men feel attracted to smart or even smarter women. I am 25 so maybe times have changed and maybe I'm just not so smart, that it would intimidate men, but yea can't fully confirm that.
@vsboardza
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@rhyscooper3693
4 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons that "smart people" can feel alienated or attacked is because of a culture of competition. It can also make the smart person act from a position of supremacy and thus patronising, rude and obnoxious. Even the way that you've phrased the above, being "the best" means you've put yourself into an elite place in the hierarchy. If someone else has skills or talents that you don't have, you will often make a hierarchy of hierarchies so that you continue to feel validated. Bullies drag you down when they can't compete with you fairly. Everyone is insecure and defensive in a context like this.
@robertaavila4744
4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a "crazy/messed up / junkie girl" trope explained (Effy Stonnen)
@fernandaisidora2027
4 жыл бұрын
Dark Paradise yasss
@slulshie4851
4 жыл бұрын
YESSSS
@ashleyen1
4 жыл бұрын
That would be interesting!
@adannayaelicia9342
4 жыл бұрын
Thats the woman child trope
@adannayaelicia9342
4 жыл бұрын
They already have a vodeo on that
@BariNgozi
4 жыл бұрын
Best smart girl is Matilda. Change my mind.
@millyrobinson5757
3 жыл бұрын
PERIODT.
@5-starmichelin760
3 жыл бұрын
She's aspie I think. Most of aspies are hella smart.
@raginimishra1931
2 жыл бұрын
Jo March
@synflwr
4 жыл бұрын
The smart girl protagonist in my story isn’t booksmart, she’s extremely ambitious and clever in a cunning and manipulative way but still very intelligent. She makes people think she’s weak to avoid making enemies, increasing the chance of her surviving in her situation. So basically a Slytherin lmao.
@nezzylearns
4 жыл бұрын
Moon-Vo!d 😯 yes that’s so true. Great analogy
@trinaq
4 жыл бұрын
Coolness, there are more ways to be smart than simply "booksmart", but that's generally the most common type of intelligence that springs to mind when we hear the word "smart". 📚
@Karma-zp7pb
4 жыл бұрын
That kinda sounds like Johanna from the hunger games AKA sounds amazing
@sophiafinucane1724
4 жыл бұрын
This makes me REALLY want to see a The Take ugly Betty analysis please
@js66613
4 жыл бұрын
"I pick up books like you pick up beers." Okay, that part was definitely me when I was younger. Had to slow down a bit for various reasons. But coming from Lisa, saying this to Homer, it really is saying something about how many books she reads. XD Also "then you have a serious reading problem" sounds even more hilarious within this video for some reason. Not sure what episode that is from again, but I'd love to watch it, having heard that quote.
@JovianKronos
4 жыл бұрын
The episode is called "at long last leave", the one where the Simpsons got kicked out of Springfield. It's was also the 500th episode.
@dsmyify
4 жыл бұрын
What was interesting about that part was it showed how framing of the argument can hide information. With the smart girl framing it was completely missed that Homer admitted to being an alcoholic.
@rymiox8109
4 жыл бұрын
My sister is the most smart and prettiest women I've ever seen in my life , I don't think being smart means you have to be away from others and can't get along , both of my siblings are pretty and smart and so much lovable between others , so you smart women or men should be proud of yourselves there's no shame in taking care of your self while feeding your brain with knowledge and interacting with people, in fact interacting with people who has different way of thinking than you and still bonding with them makes you a wonderful person.
@edonaasani3714
4 жыл бұрын
But why do smart girls have to be academic genius’ that are socially awkward and hostile or can we have a socially adjusted smart girl that isn’t defined by her intellect, its just one of her traits.
@rainbowbgood
4 жыл бұрын
Well, when society reflects intelligence we'll be well-adjusted! I've used my smarts to find out it's mostly trauma and health issues that prevents that from happening. Intelligence is highly linked to being on a high vibration. Outside of fear.. the world is just highly traumatized and that makes things uncomfortable for everyone. Shows a lot on smart people because it's not in line with us to just get comfy on that low vibration. We are always fighting it ha ha. So it's a good thing.
@RealNormHall
4 жыл бұрын
Do you know smart and sexy guys.. Other than Sheldon Cooper that is ;) Also would you say you are 'smart girl' who is also socially adjusted yourself?
@sarcodonblue2876
2 жыл бұрын
Society only sees people as being one dimensional and people emulate what they see on TV. Most people are defined by one or two aspects of themselves and choose to do this to fit in.
@NatureFreak1127
4 жыл бұрын
Get out of her own way - to transcend her hypersensitivity and overthinking, so that she can do something to improve the world. This is literally what i was thinking about today.
@RedVelvetUnderground333
4 жыл бұрын
They’re made to be ‘ugly’ but I don’t see it 🤷♀️
@warbler1984
4 жыл бұрын
I never got the Ugly Betty one...they took someone who is fairly attractive and did a poor job of making her unattractive.
@hindsightpov4218
4 жыл бұрын
The smart girl is usually not fashionable more so than being physically ugly. Give her a makeover and she becomes one of the prettiest girls in group.
@caseywilde7931
4 жыл бұрын
My mom and I never see any girl as ugly for whatever reason. I'm telling you, there's always SOMETHING pretty about every girl, and this is coming from someone who is a straight girl so it's not even limited to sexually preferring girls.
@caseywilde7931
4 жыл бұрын
@@hindsightpov4218 Unfortunately, Hollywood's idea of makeover is "take off her glasses and ponytail"
@RedVelvetUnderground333
4 жыл бұрын
Casey Wilde saaaame
@realsanmer
2 жыл бұрын
Amity Blight is a fantastic take on this trope. Used-to-be perfectionist and a hostile star student that gradually shifts into a loving, awesome girlfriend for the main protagonist, as well as making amends with those she hurt in the past, *while* keeping her characteristic organization and intelligence intact. The Owl House is such a good show, I swear.
@isabelberger9441
4 жыл бұрын
Currently wondering how much of my personality today came from admiring characters like this during my formative years (and some today to some extent). 🧐 Time to have an existential crisis.
@soumyachandrakar8697
4 жыл бұрын
Do you have a favourite character that you often find yourself finding similarities with?
@vineetkaur7701
3 жыл бұрын
@@soumyachandrakar8697 diane from bojack😶
@soumyachandrakar8697
3 жыл бұрын
@@vineetkaur7701 Bro sameee!
@5-starmichelin760
3 жыл бұрын
Literally same.
@isabelberger9441
3 жыл бұрын
@@soumyachandrakar8697, Lisa Simpson, Hermione Granger, Daria, the list goes on and on lol.
@Sam_on_YouTube
4 жыл бұрын
If you like this, I also suggest the Trope Talk playlist from Overly Sarcastic Podcast. Very different style, but also a great take on a lot of tropes.
@climbinguphill
4 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but Rory is not idealistic, she can be extremely selfish and manipulative. She can be a pretty bad friend, daughter, or girlfriend at any given time. I am not really sure what Alexis was referring to...
@steamboatwill3.367
4 жыл бұрын
So are a lot of male characters but no one brings that up.
@climbinguphill
4 жыл бұрын
Steamboat Willie. I agree, and they aren’t idealistic either. I would never want anyone regardless of gender to think that someone who uses other people or leads them along is an ideal.
@danix4919
4 жыл бұрын
climbinguphill ikr I think Alexis was saying her opinion on Rorys character change from after college. How she was a perfect student and became a mess
@MrDavidKord
4 жыл бұрын
Rory started out idealistic, and the writers didn't realize they were ruining her character with some of their decisions. The trope still applies, imo.
@MrDavidKord
4 жыл бұрын
@@climbinguphill Jess didn't arrive until season 2, homeslice. It was Dean only season 1.
@kal2487
4 жыл бұрын
It's like someone finally sees me. This was worth several years of therapy.
@katykinard1610
3 жыл бұрын
This hit me right in the feels. As a “smart girl”, I always felt the pressure to perform and achieve. I’m in my 30s now and I’m very privileged that I was able to pause my career and be a SAHM (this has greatly improved my mental health) but I still feel the weight of others expectations
@000-m7q
4 жыл бұрын
I have associated myself with the Smart girl for the most part of my life. Yet I also have a strong feeling that I'm not actually one. More of a good liar who pretends to be extremely put together, hardworking and nice while at school. At home I just lie down for the most part, or play music, or draw. I have quite big problems with my diet. And overall my image of the Smart one is so not true that I feel like a liar most of the time. It's exhausting.
@riverAmazonNZ
4 жыл бұрын
Евгения Левушкина sounds like you have good work-life balance to me
@eltiospike7672
4 жыл бұрын
Well, there are two possible explanations for that. 1. You Are pretending to be smart and deep inside you know that you are not 2. You are suffering from Impostor Syndrome. In both cases, you shouldn't be worried tho.
@5-starmichelin760
3 жыл бұрын
If you're seen as hella smart and spend lots of time doing "nothing", I may tell you you're actually *very* smart, since you barely need effort to get there.
@esmeraldaloschuetz9120
4 жыл бұрын
What particularly struck me as limiting & unfair when I was growing up in the 90ies, was the notion that a smart girl always has to be uptight somehow, boring & square, a buzzkill, and sexually demure or restricted. There are very few examples of smart girls in media that are also very openly sexual / sensual. It's a centuries-old prejudice, stemming from the early days of female education - when people seriously believed that too much brain activity could make a woman infertile or frigid; that a smart / educated woman can't be a sexual being with carnal desires at the same time. I feel like a lot of us are still struggling against that deep-seated societal prejudice.
@ElaBlu3
4 жыл бұрын
Damn! Yes!!! Never thought of this but so true!!!
@RealNormHall
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah you hardly see smart guys being very sexual, unless you think braces, suspenders and lisp is sexy/sensual?
@safsafware1088
4 жыл бұрын
Maybe she is uptight because she doesn't want to invest her time in bad relationship since most people isn't as smart as her ,she thinks of them as shallow and dumb, or she doesn't want to get pregnant by mistake because that would hold her back from her ambition.
@esmeraldaloschuetz9120
4 жыл бұрын
@@safsafware1088 I really think the writers of these characters didn't think this through so far. I think they were prejudiced and couldn't imagine a girl as smart AND sexy. Simple as that.
@DefineMorena
4 жыл бұрын
@@ebonyplummer4621 👏🏽 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@korereviews8088
4 жыл бұрын
Very well done, as usual. Thanks for this! One thing I would have liked to have seen was a connection of the smart-girl trope with the ugly-duckling trope. Because in soooo many versions of the smart-girl, she starts out with glasses and tied-back hair, only to be "revealed" as a hot girl by the end of the story, when she throws her (always) long hair back and tosses away the glasses, thus making the (totally awful) point that it's only okay for girls to be smart if they can also pass as "hot". And even now, most of the examples of smart girls in the clips you showed were of barbie dolls with glasses on. Yes, there's been some progress, but still too often girls get the message that intelligence may be okay, but hotness has to be their priority.
@kinrateia
4 жыл бұрын
I was put into smart girl trope since really young age. It's so refreshing to watch this and relate, I finally feel like someone understands
@VultureClone
4 жыл бұрын
"Don't give me that women's libs crap." Imagine having a character say, "Don't give me that black rights crap." Or, "Don't give me that gay rights crap." You wouldn't dare. But for some reason it's acceptable (still) to ridicule women's rights..
@toomuchinformation
4 жыл бұрын
Because the above egs include MEN.
@greatwavefan397
2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of a meme: "Me running from the library after putting a book on women's right's in the comedy secton:"
@collegestudent967
2 жыл бұрын
Idk based on that woman’s hair in that clip, that show came out a while ago. That absolutely wouldn’t fly by today’s standards and if it were in a show, that character would most definitely be one dimensionally bad
@robinfa1477
4 жыл бұрын
I know she was in the tough girl video, but I think Mulan is a smart girl as well. Her way of thinking is ahead of its time and she has a hard time fitting in because of it. She wants to be able to speak her mind more freely, and is a creative problem solver, coming up with strategies that Li Shang (who was first in his class in military matters) or any other soldier couldn't come up with. It seems like even her martial arts skills may have tapped in when she tried studying them from an intellectual perspective. We also see the creative way she feeds the chickens, her chess (or go or whatever that game was) skills, and how hard she is on herself. She was even asked to be on the council. In books and comics, she is also seen as very intelligent as well, with a strong desire to learn.
@Sophia.Stark17
4 жыл бұрын
You guys should really do an analysis on How I met your Mother at some point! (yes of course the ending was crappy, but still it has some brilliant writing moments)
@bbrbbr-on2gd
4 жыл бұрын
I wish Major Margaret Houlihan was included in this. She had a great episode in M*A*S*H* where she explains how she feels to the other nurses and about being left out as a peer. It's an amazing episode that's honestly one of the shows best.
@Georgie13
4 жыл бұрын
I love that episode. She was never my favourite character when I was younger but after rewatching MASH as an adult she became one of my favourites because she was so driven.
@aryssamansfield9735
4 жыл бұрын
That episode hit my soul
@nrkgalt
4 жыл бұрын
bbr64 bbr64 The other nurses assumed that she would regard fraternizing with them as a breach of military protocol, especially since she was an Army brat and was raised in the military.
@aryssamansfield9735
4 жыл бұрын
@@nrkgalt the reason she was so intense on the military protocol was because she never fit in with the other nurses. She feels alone and isolated by her ambition and dedication to regular army. She wants to prove she's better/the best but also wants to be included. top tier smart girl trope
@douglasphillips5870
4 жыл бұрын
great example!
@renato_steveng
4 жыл бұрын
I can't believe that the 2010's ultimate smart girl, Spencer Hastings didn't even get a clip.
@melikec6996
4 жыл бұрын
Can't get enough of these archetype videos because I feel like I do some sort of psychonanalysis on myself
@jbennett87
4 жыл бұрын
Id love to get into the "angry black woman" trope, or even the "best friend" trope, who are usually women of color supporting White women (but not always, Lucy and Ethel).
@isabellegrayson9134
3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most psychologically intellectual channels I’ve seen on KZitem. Their analyses are so socially intelligent and they covered many common tropes in movies/shows that usually put into words descriptions I normally couldn’t or skip over.
@Iliah97
4 жыл бұрын
Jane Eyre is definitely a smart girl
@monicaganderson9431
4 жыл бұрын
And Lizzie Bennett
@bobsburgers8497
4 жыл бұрын
Lol I hated that book so much but u right
@stefaniewithanf7026
4 жыл бұрын
I dunno, marrying Rochester doesn't seem all that smart to me.
@estelle0377
4 жыл бұрын
She judged other girls without knowing them and always talk like she’s above the mundane girly matters. She then proceeded to compare herself to those girls and felt insecure. Like sis i thought you said you didn’t care about their vanity? And are we supposed to feel sorry for you now? Umm no...
@kgrimes4934
4 жыл бұрын
Hmm, I don't know, while she values and wants an education, she see some higher pursuits as frivolous. Someone mentioned "not like other girls". I think that fits better.
@evildoesnotsleep-x2b
4 жыл бұрын
my mother said 'you can be smart or pretty' when i was a girl and it took me so many years to escape this false dichotomy
@finer3732
4 жыл бұрын
Your mom was "the pretty" one, i guess?
@noonebossesthegarnet2890
4 жыл бұрын
Mizuki Miu Ouch lmao 😂
@leaczinkota1979
3 жыл бұрын
Well, you can be both
@sarahthomas8670
3 жыл бұрын
@@finer3732 😭☠️🤚🏾
@ComfortablyPlump
4 жыл бұрын
Can you do some underrated black movies for Black History Month? Like Belle, Queen of Katwe, Dreamgirls, and Beyond the Lights?
@parisedits5453
4 жыл бұрын
joseph adel I lost braincells reading this... your joking right? Because that would be the only reason you would type something like this 😂🤦♀️
@alext3480
4 жыл бұрын
@@parisedits5453 this person is a FOOL
@shinobukouchou680
3 жыл бұрын
Hey girlie, I'm guessing you are a black girl and wanted to see this channel seek out more black girls to represent those tropes. I, too, am also a black girl. This channel focuses on tropes portrayed in movies not analysis of the movies themselves. We have so little representation in movies that we don't even get to see ourselves much in tropes. Please ignore the two heartless, condescending comments above mine. Their ignorance blinds them from the understanding where you are coming from. You are not stupid nor are you a fool. You just noticed we black girls don't even have enough characters to even have tropes. I mean this so lovingly (:
@femininefamous22
4 жыл бұрын
The "bad guy who gets nice after you spent time to get through his layers" trope
@kirk001
4 жыл бұрын
As the sheldon cooper stereotype myself, I really appreciate the smart girl/smart woman types, especially awkward ones. LOL
@danielanunez9852
4 жыл бұрын
I study social anthropology and I can say it really does help to make socializing much easier I love it ❤️
@MythopoeicNavid
4 жыл бұрын
Diana Prince / Wonder Woman in the Lynda Carter show was multi-careered superhero who broke the smart, cool, tough AND flawed when needed (struggling with workplace discrimination), so she had intelligence not only as a pure STEM but also empathic. So she was pre-80s. Jane Austen's protagonists were all smart. And both Marilyn Monroe and Hedy Lamarr were bombshells with brains, and a huge icon for the latter. HOWEVER, we also got Chloe Sullivan (smart girl as a sidekick and never the hero. Smart for the story's exposition dumps and to elevate the male hero -- the "smart chick with wifi" or on the phone, Oracle and Felicity, AKA the war-time "auxiliary" or "secretary / radio girl"). That's where the smart girl trope started to become a type without an arc. As the aiding nurse whose maternal side is what helps the male hero recover. The problem was NOT in the profession or her intelligence and ability to care for others (unequal career dynamics meant that a vast majority of "smart girls" in real life had to settle for auxiliary roles and nurses and not doctors so their experiences do not need to be undermined) but the problem has been in portraying or relegating the girls as SUPPORTING characters to the narrative. Which is how Lynda Carter and WW both remained subversive since despite having those roles the stories were from her perspective. Theres also the more recent trend of going beyond the hot nurse as science babe trope and presenting a fetishization of the "intuitive" or "feminist Other" or "mystique" of not just the female body, but also the female mind (and where she stands in her revolutionary form in the male spectrum and social "networks" AKA patriarchy simulated and presented as "neutral"). The smart male also solves or discovers actual scientific feats but we rarely see that with the smart girl despite the fact that a majority of modern scientific inventions would have been rightfully credited to women if not for male-centric history. I wonder what other exceptions are there?
@livlaughloveanime
4 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the Candy Apple books I read when I was in middle school. There was one I really liked where a smart, social outcast started running for class president under the assumption that the preferred candidate, a pretty and popular girl, was only running for status and didn't actually care about making the school a better place. It wasn't until she actually talked to the popular girl that she realized how intelligent and caring she actually was, and how all of the stereotypes she had generated were unfair and wrong.
@idontknow7005
4 жыл бұрын
I love how now everyone in the comments has suddenly got an IQ of 150
@klegenda2493
3 жыл бұрын
I really love Diane Nguyen from Bojack. At first I was like "oh shit, a smart Asian, I hope I'm not a stereotype anymore", but I was totally wrong. A very well written and complex gray character, very different from what I see about other "smart girls"
@carom4996
4 жыл бұрын
I think I’m a smart girl, but I’m lazy AF
@aimdog2000
4 жыл бұрын
you don’t have to box yourself into one personality
@arricherie
4 жыл бұрын
A C thats so true, thank you
@nrkgalt
4 жыл бұрын
Being smart but lazy has its advantages. You will be motivated to work more efficiently.
@TheEureka00
3 ай бұрын
Learning more about neurodivergence in general I feel like some tropes come from actual traits more pronounced among individuals with ADHD, ASD etc. Among them anxiety, rejection sensitivity and injustice sensitivity.
@KatherinaBathory
4 жыл бұрын
Overthinking is any smart person's kryptonite!
@shoujokadyan5502
4 жыл бұрын
I really hope you girls analyze the show Crazy Ex Girlfriend soon!
@shreksspawn2359
4 жыл бұрын
Why does this sound like me? Edit: the overthinking part mostly
@issecret1
4 жыл бұрын
You overthought how your comment would be perceived, didn't you?
@jessicacruz4729
4 жыл бұрын
I’m also a “smart girl” and the whole video I kept thinking “omg how does she know EXACTLY what I’ve been feeling my whole life 😥”
@kelbeen
4 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who decided to watch this with the intent to re-analyze myself to not fit the stereotype?
@shreksspawn2359
4 жыл бұрын
@@issecret1 yes
@shreksspawn2359
4 жыл бұрын
@@jessicacruz4729 same. I hate that when I get a low grade or someone does better than me, they say "I thought you were smart."
@siddhiraskar5464
4 жыл бұрын
Your channel is gold!, love these stereotype breakdown series
@ntellaS2
3 жыл бұрын
I was the "smart prodigy girl" and people demanded so much from me that I lost will to make any effort I'm recovering now, I'm an art major, which disappointed a lot pf people who hoped I'd do something "smart girl" related like engineering, medicine, laws etc I relate to Rebecca from CXG a LOT and I love that you put her in. We both have BPD, we both were the "smart girl" with no friends, we both attempted to end our lives and we both kinda gave up on our dreams of working with art and acting to follow what our parents wanted for us gladly I was able to leave psychology college and enter art college still as a teen
@rachelle2227
4 жыл бұрын
I'm smart but I was only above average in high school and college. I didn't care to try too hard. I've never had that kind of ambition. Nor did I ever have high career goals. I like learning and understanding for the intrinsic value of it, and most of what I enjoy learning is the wide sweeping strokes of understanding psychology and society. With my husband, we both understand a lot about the world and psychology. I don't feel like I can identify with most people, and even this smart woman trope. I've never been insecure either, I am an individualist. Obviously the smart girl is a trope, but I feel like many intelligent women would identify with it at least somewhat more than me.
@cjohn64
4 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting if you analyzed how the smart guy has shifted from the 80s to the 90s then shifted back to 80s tropes in the late 2000s. See Revenge of the Nerds vs Quantum Leap/Sliders vs Big Bang Theory
@hamdialihassan1048
4 жыл бұрын
Ok do ”damsel in distress” trope next 😀 Ps great video as usual.
@Sugarskulls_forever
4 жыл бұрын
This made me feel better. Thanks for calling me out on being concerned on trying to get so many things done. I’ll take better care of myself. Also thank you for reassuring us smart girls 🌷💗🌺💕
@hindsightpov4218
4 жыл бұрын
Daria is one of my favorite tv characters ever.
@vluessky
3 жыл бұрын
Your KZitem channel should become a Netflix show, not because Netflix deserves it, but because all of these videos you guys make should be watched by everyone, especially girls!!!!
@MrPolyalert
4 жыл бұрын
This is why I love Book Smart! It really puts into perspective how the old “smart girl trope” affects girls in how they perceive themselves and others. Wish I saw that movie when I was in high school...
@christienolasco7783
4 жыл бұрын
Feeling super seen by this explanation of the smart girl trope. While I do enjoy the introduction of a woman capable of beauty and intelligence, the conversation begins to shift the requirement of women 'doing it all'. My reasoning derives from during the period when women began entering the workforce but were still having to do household work and childcare. regardless, I still love these videos. my interest in media and culture really pushes me to have a critical approach since tv and film reach such a big audience.
@nickymo
4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy this channel! You ladies broke off from screenrant or watchmojo or whatever right? I’m loving the super clean professional style as applied to more specific meaty topics like this, keep up the great work and thanks so much!
@lindtkugel7
4 жыл бұрын
What about “the quirky girl“? Can you make one about that pleaseee
@oscarwilde9581
4 жыл бұрын
Wow I never realized how much I identified with all these characters when I was growing up
@romynorthcoast7591
3 жыл бұрын
I hated that especially in highschool when I was more into my looks and I had new classmates so whenever I would get a good mark they thought I cheated until the day I was debating with a teacher and they were like " so you're actually smart!" like IDK SURPRISE I HAVE A PERSONALITY AND INTRESTS !!
@amgm1996
4 жыл бұрын
When they showed greta and malala 💙
@anjalmehta2237
4 жыл бұрын
pls do an analysis on all the main characters from bojack season 6. one especially for princess carolyn! THIS SHOW IS A MASTERPIECE!!
@nezzylearns
4 жыл бұрын
😭😭 🤣🤣why did I identify with this video. Over-thinking, over-analyzing, trying time feel like you belong. It explains so much. Great video
@wakandaforever4994
3 жыл бұрын
Watching this video made me realise from the over analytical and painfully self aware traits of the smart girl that I am in fact the smart girl. Such a confidence boost but man... it’s fuckinh hard
@megasocky
4 жыл бұрын
I never felt more understood Also i feel like marjane from persepolis is a great smart+rebellious type character. She has hints of tomboyish and rebellious characters while standing up for justice, but she also has a strong feminine side that she still keeps (which is her cause for justice for equality)
@mashashramko5944
4 жыл бұрын
Smart girls are beautiful and even more important they are magical. They just don't realize it.
@gamerdru101
4 жыл бұрын
Hello!! I just want to say Thank You for all these wonderful videos that you do. I'm in the middle of trying to write a story with a strong, cool, independent, tough female protagonist and your work has provided priceless insight into various tropes and pitfalls of these genres. Some of it was really eye opening for me! Keep up the fantastic work!! 🖤
@aliciavance4228
3 жыл бұрын
The makes me love Beth Harmon even more. She wasn't regonized as "The Smart Girl" because of her good grades, but because of her natural talent and potential in chess, an intellectual game known as being "just for men". And she could be girly, witty and sassy at the same time, becoming interested in style and beauty even though "it isn't natural for a nerdy girl". Such a Queen! ❤
@muralmarshall5044
4 жыл бұрын
Gosh it's frustrating how often I can relate to Lisa's struggles
@laurenpaz4375
4 жыл бұрын
When u explained why the smart girl is so intrigued with the “cool” ppl and likes to analyse them it would explain a lot of why hermoine chose to go into gryfindor when she would have for perfectly in ravenclaw.
@kaylabrandon4705
4 жыл бұрын
The Sorting Hat put her in Gryffindor, because being intelligent was just one of her traits; she is also incredibly brave. And, even if she and anyone else couldn't see it yet, the sorting hat senses what's more prominent inside a student as far as their skills, and she must've shown signs of being especially brave. Maybe, he even knew that she would be essential in helping Harry defeat Voldermort... just a thought. But, I don't think she chose Gryffindor to try and study them; Harry is literally the only one the hat placed in Gryffindor, because that's where Harry wanted to go, but at first the hat thought Harry was better suited for Slytherin, and that's where he was originally going to place him. The sorting hat doesn't usually put students in where they necessarily want to go(even though I've yet to see someone go to their house disappointed), but Harry was an exception, cuz main character *Shrug*
@elleyeah746
4 жыл бұрын
Paris Gellar was the best character on GG. I'll fight you on this.
@curiousbaby7918
4 жыл бұрын
Used to think or actually is smart . But then I get curious and wanted to be that cool and popular girl going to club, smoke sometime, skip school. Then it affects my grade and then think I am actually dumb and start to accept that. But I remember being smart and love reading before social media came to me and highschool movies . Now I don't give an f anymore. I don't really like club tbh. And I hate smoking. I hates bad grade I love reading. I love staying home and watch KZitem. I even quit social media cause I'm not myself there. And I am better now. Live with less expection of other. Honestly just be yourself. Do things that actually matter for you. And you truly enjoyed what you are doing.
@ferreiraisabella
4 жыл бұрын
same
@blueberries2702
2 жыл бұрын
my mother always said if they call you an uptight nerd then own it. thats who you are so dont give them the power to make you feel bad about who you are. so here we go - im that smart girl and i am proud of it 😤 (dont mind me just tryna fit in my affirmations for the day)
@webgirl
4 жыл бұрын
As a proud smart-girl I wish you included Amy Poehler’s “Smart Girls” she discovered and put on the girls of Broad City and even has a KZitem called Smart Girls!
@thelostpawn
4 жыл бұрын
Loving the female centric series!!!
@jaycee9968
4 жыл бұрын
Lost Pawn me too
@trinaq
4 жыл бұрын
Likewise, I can't wait to see what other types of "Girl" archetypes they may tackle next!❤
@timothyo718
4 жыл бұрын
Lost Pawn Would like to see more male character analysis though too.
@thelostpawn
4 жыл бұрын
Timothy O they have a lot of great older vids on guys like Don Draper, Walter White...etc. Check them out.
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