You are 100% correct! The Council accepted a HALF BACKED transport plan! No doubt they looked at the available options. Everything from do nothing to a RAIL MERO. If presented with the option of guided buses of say, five sections, at X cost or the simple double articulated electric bus, they accepted that. LETS CALL it A METRO. . . . . ha ha ha, nobody will notice! Make he vehicles look a bit like an LRT, and Bobs your Uncle! What about a genuine INQUIRY into this issue? What options WERE presented, and what were the COSSTS of those options? I really MUST make a video on that!
@TramPainter
7 ай бұрын
I am also disappointed they are not guided on designated, dedicated perway. I am surprised Brisbane took this approach. And I am surprised it is costing so much for so little benefit.
@johncoyle777
7 ай бұрын
Firstly, Tram Painter, I hope that you are safe and well. I was deleted from FLICKR, so lost 10,000 photos and many contacts, including you! I plan to make a video after the opening day of the so called BRISBANE METRO. . . . . . an absurd system as it should have been five section vehicles, call it a guided bus or call it a trackless tram. . . . . instead we are getting a simple double articulated electric bus! The bus stations should have been doubled in size to take a suitable vehicle as discussed.
@JamesFFiT
7 ай бұрын
@@johncoyle777 particularly the upgraded KSD out to Hamilton north shore where the Olympic athletes will be. What is the solution to move inbound towards the city/gabba quickly from Hamilton. Currently the bus trip is SLOW. It needs a connection to the RBWH off the ICB westbound if all we get is metro.
@johncoyle777
7 ай бұрын
Whilst I do not want to upset the apple Cart, I would be willing to bet that there will be NO OLYYMPIC GAMES in 2032 as WW3 will take place, devastating the Northern Hemisphere. The war in Israel will expand to a major regional conflict, Turing worldwide. @@JamesFFiT
@johncoyle777
21 күн бұрын
Graham, I will get in touch with you, to catch up in any case, and to discuss the so called Brisbane MERO!
@flightstatic4662
8 ай бұрын
light rail bought on aliexpress
@trevormaxwell8134
3 ай бұрын
Actually its single ended and you can't join them to another one 😢😮😅
@johncoyle777
3 ай бұрын
Since the video was made, I became aware that these are a simple double articulated bus, as is found in other countries. My main point was that either a Trackless Tram or Guided Bus system would have been far better. However, the existing Bus Way Stations WOULS need to be extended in LENGTH to take five section vehicles and not the three section buses. That, will be shown to be unsatisfactory, within a year or two of introduction!
@JamesFFiT
7 ай бұрын
RBWH station terminus is too small. It’s just moving the people to wait there to transfer rather than in KGS for example. It’s too crowded now in the afternoons. It’s good tho, every few mins service! 24 hours on weekends. We don’t get that in Brisbane yet. Missed opportunity for RBWH to connect properly with the upgraded exhibition train station for CRR properly.
@johncoyle777
7 ай бұрын
ALL of the existing bus way stations are TOO SMALL for the so called METRO and that system itself, will be seen as unsuitable for FUTURE requirements. A five section guided bus or TRACKLESS tram, call it whatever name you like, would be far more suited to Brisbane.
@johncoyle777
7 ай бұрын
I agree, please see my comments to TRAM PAINTER, and I add that the cutback of a number of bus routes to start from bus way stations, will force passengers to STAND UP all the way on the so called METRO! I HOPE that the MEDIA highlight the errors made and have them FIXED. Forget an expensive rail based METRO. . . . . five section trackless trams would be very successful but no no no, we will have buses that LOOK like a Light Rail vehicle!
@JamesFFiT
7 ай бұрын
@@johncoyle777 yes I saw they are looking to put trackless trams in Melbourne south east on 9 news last night and the prototype sent from china was over in Perth being demonstrated. I agree I think trackless trams will need to be the next addition to Brisbane before 2023.
@johncoyle777
7 ай бұрын
WOW, that is good news! Caulfield to Rowfield is the route. But I expect it will be a year or two before the project is built and in operation. I also expect a couple of LOW patronage tram routes to be replaced by trackless trams! @@JamesFFiT
@johncoyle777
19 күн бұрын
One could be sure of two things. ONE a mere double articulated bus will NOT carry the CROWDS that will travel, as some bus routes will no longer go into the Brisbane CBD. TWO. As I have said, the current Bus Stations SHOULD have been DOUBLED in size, and a guided bus system with five section vehicles could be used!
@trevormaxwell8134
8 ай бұрын
So called metro alright 😮😢
@paulwilliams5208
6 ай бұрын
it is JUST a glorified "BUS" nothing more and so they tear up the city to accommodate it, most of the time the existing buses can deal with demand, these running midday, late evening will look empty "AND" replacing cultural centre, it is a manner of managing WHERE the busses are going as cultural centre has something like 86 bus routes going to that ONE bus stop
@trevormaxwell8134
Ай бұрын
A hugh waste of money and time 😢😮
@trevormaxwell8134
8 ай бұрын
Nothing exciting about them 😅😊
@johncoyle777
8 ай бұрын
I simply HAD to say something! I enjoy all public transport vehicles and systems and will no doubt ride the so called METRO when it opens early next year as I will when the Cross River Rail opens in Early 2026. The use of the word METRO is annoying and misleading and it is very over hyped! It perhaps should have been called TRACKLESS TRAMS, which they are, of course!
@mattbear4802
7 ай бұрын
@@johncoyle777 i'd argue the inverse to your last point; that 'trackless trams' are inherently nothing more than longer articulated buses with optical guidance and a streamlined tram-like exterior. just like calling Brisbane's new BRT a 'metro', it's a branding thing mostly used to sway people against conventional trams and light rail with the promise of 'lower construction costs' and 'no need for buslanes or dedicated tracks' - missing the point that what makes mass transit, whether rail based or rubber-tyre based, reliable and frequent *is* segregation from mixed traffic. I personally don't think the branding of buses as 'trackless trams' or 'metros' is as critical an issue as the operational side of things - I can see the logic of trying to 'spruce up' public transport's image to attract new riders, particularly more affluent folks, though arguably more frequent and reliable services would do a lot more in that area. But there's always the point that rail-based modes can move more people at more manageable service frequencies than buses. To move 12,000 people per hour along a given corridor, it would take a bi articulated bus every 45 seconds, a 43m tram every 90 seconds, a Vancouver type light metro every 2.5 minutes, or a 6-car train every 5 minutes. Which option is most efficient and puts the least pressure on the infrastructure it runs on? That's a question I don't think politicians realise when they're prioritising cost and vote-winning "promises". So whether the Brisbane Metro/BRT is a mistake, I think depends on how much it does relieve bus congestion on the busway choke points like Victoria Bridge, how it handles demand and the transfers from suburban feeder buses, and how long it takes before it might need replacing with true light rail or the rubber-tyred guided true metro that was originally proposed.
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