My experience has been watching my strellas go 0/8 against stationary helicopters that are meanwhile eviscerating all of my armor
@shelbycome8398
Жыл бұрын
But when the enemy aa sees your heli it goes brrrrrrrrt...
@FighterOperationsGroupFOG
Жыл бұрын
@@shelbycome8398fr fr
@sarahrichards1281
7 ай бұрын
3-4 manpads or 1 gun based AA are a lot more effective and cheaper, strella vehicles are better for airplanes.
@hippiehippiehippiehippie
Жыл бұрын
Skill issue
@567jt
Жыл бұрын
The skill issue is even using AA
@davidlee3499
Жыл бұрын
Massive* skill issue
@twztedsoldiergaming6338
7 ай бұрын
Cause your any better rip
@freddyli5356
3 ай бұрын
I just given the 666th likes
@cumpillowgamer7551
7 ай бұрын
My AA: misses every shot My opponents AA: aimed by the right hand of God as it righteously strikes down my SEAD aircraft
@sarahrichards1281
7 ай бұрын
While frustrating, OSAs and Strelas are more for counter airplanes than rotorcraft. Your AA nets should also have some gun based AA mixed in, not only can they stun for the rockets but are also deadly effective against helis.
@hefish
3 ай бұрын
Gun AA also tear apart infantry and light vehicles
@uwuowo8599
Ай бұрын
How can a missile be capable of hitting a fast af plane but not a slow ass heli!!?? 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@GlowingSpamraam
Ай бұрын
Not sure its gonna be easier to hit a plane with even higher ecm chief but u do you
@matushka__
11 ай бұрын
Takes out my jets like it's nothing, but can't hit a still heli.
@calebmoore7406
3 ай бұрын
Because they’re meant to hit jets not helis
@Justusuave313
3 ай бұрын
Because that’s what they’re meant for
@matushka__
3 ай бұрын
@@Justusuave313 I'd say ok if it was moving, but it's right there.
@Justusuave313
3 ай бұрын
@@matushka__ EXACTLY, the fact that it’s not moving and at extremely close range are exactly why it can’t hit it. Notice how the only one that hit it was while it WAS moving and further away. Again they’re meant to hit mobile jets at extremely long ranges which means they move super fast and take awhile to lock on to it’s target. It does not have the time to lock on because of how close it is and it does not have the accuracy at that range either because of how fast it is especially against chaf and countermeasures
@adamtruong1759
27 күн бұрын
So it's vision is based on movement?
@p.uri.tanner
Жыл бұрын
I did not have relations with that OSA, anti air battery.
@vuch
Жыл бұрын
Based on my calculations the probability to hit within 5 missile launches with an accuracy of 44 % (ECM included here) is between 90 and 100 % so this is extremely unlucky. If they use pseudo random distribution it is even more than 95 %.
@thundercatld3719
Жыл бұрын
you should be asking how many of the 6 should hit not the % of the last 5, you should get 2.64 hits over 6 shots, he got 1 so he got 1.64 less hits then he should have. if he hit it on the 2nd shot (something that anyone who uses helis knows is painfully common) that would be 2 hits when .88 hits should have happened (1.12 hits too many) that is 1.64 vs 1.12. so its more likely that your heli will be two tapped then for this to happen.
@whwhwhhwhhhwhdldkjdsnsjsks6544
9 ай бұрын
@@thundercatld3719they weren’t explaining the average case. They were saying how unlikely it was to miss that many shots in a row.
@felix34ever1
3 ай бұрын
You can however perform a hypothesis test and probably find out that while unlikely, it just happens sometimes, and it's not any other factors
@kirillosipik8048
3 ай бұрын
The missile missing doesn't increase the chance of consequent missiles hitting the target. It doesn't change the probability over time, it only flattens the bell curve
@vuch
3 ай бұрын
@@kirillosipik8048 There seems to be a consecutive shot bonus of around 1 % capping at 3 %. It depends how things are coded. There are various probability distribution of which one is the bell curve or normal distribution... Not all probabilities are of a bell curve type.
@blitz-war
Жыл бұрын
more like this!
@hardinflash
Жыл бұрын
I bring 2 cards of double vet OSAs when I play the 39th and always bring 2 together just because of those damn Apache's.
@underdose93
3 ай бұрын
Apache: “delete this grid square”
@denischen9206
Жыл бұрын
AA missile went ricochet 😂
@onepangaean3018
Жыл бұрын
the missile is very tired. he is eepy. the missile has had a very long day of splashing bandits and wants to take just a small sleep. he eeby and neebies to sleebie.
@Oatmilk123
Жыл бұрын
For all you morons saying “this is why Warno sucks” you should very well know that the exact thing has the probability of happening in red dragon. Also remember this video is obviously unique and unfortunate, which is why someone posted it. This scenario does not happen most of the time. Think with your head before you go keyboard general in the comments.
@isserdigan2835
Жыл бұрын
Sometimes they never miss and take out your 240 point helicopter. You just feel helpless 😢
@alexanderkharin7036
Жыл бұрын
I disagree. I have played Red Dragon for hundreds of hours and I know that even the first hit in a helicopter means that it is already lost, even if it is not shot down by the first shot. Shown here is just a disgrace to the industry, not an "accident". The helicopter should be immediately dead after entering the air defense range and there is no need to talk about "playability". Red Dragon was perfectly played even with such cruelty to the players.
@foxshoot3138
Жыл бұрын
@@alexanderkharin7036 well not already losy but alot more of stage
@Mister_Rat_
Жыл бұрын
You can say all u want but aa in warno is really not good right now. And this isnt ghat unique it happens aomewhat regularly
@FighterOperationsGroupFOG
Жыл бұрын
@alexanderkharin7036 yea I've got almost 700 hours in red dragon, never had this issue when playing, only in warno.
@ctepler_7023
4 ай бұрын
old video
@csabas.6342
Жыл бұрын
But these days AA is waaay too cost effective.
@flossordie2256
7 ай бұрын
Curious why the jets especially the nighthawk don't fly higher to avoid IR based aa
@stevejackson7080
3 ай бұрын
Best dub ever, the barrage of missiles with Ken Shiro simply killed me 😆
@leonodonoghueburke4276
Жыл бұрын
That's XCOM baby!
@weareselenators
3 ай бұрын
XCOM has made me rage more than CS:GO could and thats saying something
@worlore1651
Жыл бұрын
Use a logi first of all, second of all the heli is flying amuck and using ECM
@jamesmullally2075
Жыл бұрын
Like seriously 🙄 I love those aa vehicle because they love fast but oh man do they eat up rockets and miss a lot
@removed7331
7 ай бұрын
Flares and ECM as well as general poor accuracy from the AA is probably what caused this.
@ORKSIZDABEST
Жыл бұрын
Hence hello rushes every 2nd game. Hence online below 1000.
@EzerReborn
11 күн бұрын
Target has 20% ECM, so your chance to hit - 0.55 * 0.80 = 44% Miss 5 in a row - 12.5%
@kookdarice9621
3 ай бұрын
SD2 three AA guns shuts down the air space WARNO a hundreds of AA guns in a well thought out AA system can’t take down a single Hind
@asngamer664
Жыл бұрын
Leave the game and goodbye 😂😂
@jaidka
Жыл бұрын
Eugen wants to make helicopters' simulation.
@calebmoore7406
3 ай бұрын
These longer range guided missiles are for jets, they suck at helis, for helis you need stingers/igla or pivad or some other AA gun
@jbskyfall9271
Ай бұрын
Heli was in spin, standing still basically, but the god damn flares are too strong.
@legiahuy9436
Жыл бұрын
warthunder AA player belile:
@ratio6621
9 ай бұрын
Согласен wargame red dragon круче ❤
@t72moderna65
Жыл бұрын
They did this because warno is ment to be more realistic combat wise and damage wise than wargame red dragon so you're not filling units with 10s of missiles or rounds to get a kill
@mr.reality1611
Жыл бұрын
@@hkg207 I thinking about war thunder
@FighterOperationsGroupFOG
Жыл бұрын
Red dragon was more balanced, I still play that over warno
@JAnx01
10 ай бұрын
More realistic? It's exactly the same as Wargame.
@xXBisquitsXx
8 ай бұрын
lol u played recently? infantry can take multiple tank shells before losing a man and spamming manpads is meta right now. Wargame units tend to be squishy while Warno tends to be the opposite. i think they are ruining it trying to be realstic instead balanced like wargame.
@johnmoles4122
3 ай бұрын
ECM and Flares, this is 100% a skill issue
@joejones117
3 ай бұрын
Why I could not play this game
@whshsjsnsjjs2631
8 ай бұрын
Hamburgers won't buy a game if russians would be at least equals to Saint NATO
@Lem0nsquid
Жыл бұрын
I wish my helicopters were capable of that
@Natogoon
4 ай бұрын
HATO bias )))))))))
@atack1212
8 ай бұрын
missle AA is better for aircraft and gun AA is better for helis, maybe try using 1 gun AA for helis and 1-3 missle AAs for planes
@FighterOperationsGroupFOG
Жыл бұрын
Red dragon was balanced better in my opinion
@CommonManTools
Ай бұрын
Back to red dragon..
@hg0164
Жыл бұрын
so bad update mate cant belive. it is gone so bad. it was good game
@ぺこぽ
2 ай бұрын
love from Japan
@Trubripes
4 ай бұрын
there is 1/32 chance of that happening. epic.
@AnthonyMcEwan24
11 ай бұрын
That's why I have 2, one fails all the time
@El_Presidente_5337
10 ай бұрын
Just like in Wargame lmao
@LFren-fp1jb
10 ай бұрын
Well theyre called counter measures for a reason lol
@stanleymunro1500
Жыл бұрын
Im wondering if its the acc is wrong on aa or if counter measures are to strong.
@bobmartin9918
2 ай бұрын
WGRD better
@emirarslanagic8554
Ай бұрын
Skill issue
@Ftemblador
9 ай бұрын
There should be a minimum engagement range like in steel division 2
@saucynetwork9525
8 ай бұрын
Skill issue
@DurkarioX401S
2 ай бұрын
😂
@PaulRedeemed
3 ай бұрын
This is why I mix and match pew pew AA with zoom soom AA. Can't flare bullets.
@neurofiedyamato8763
3 ай бұрын
Osa are not infrared seekers
@skootmeister3994
3 ай бұрын
*Insert quality joke here*
@treyhouse5270
11 ай бұрын
You gotta uprank the aa with the lower tier bgs it’s just a must.
@lucianaurelius2418
Жыл бұрын
They ruined this game, Broken Arrow will kick its ass
@OneHouseofCards
Жыл бұрын
Why? Because most Cold War era vehicles/aircraft has a form of countermeasures for SAMS?
@FighterOperationsGroupFOG
Жыл бұрын
@@OneHouseofCardsit's a game and should be balanced. Red dragon wasn't thus bad
@OneHouseofCards
Жыл бұрын
@@FighterOperationsGroupFOG Brother, it's an RTS, and taking into account it is alt history of the Cold War going hot it never going to be fair or balanced, it about tactics, and working with the deck you made.
@SovietCharlie
Жыл бұрын
@@OneHouseofCards TBH, im tired of your "balance" shits, IRL NO FUCKIN AERIAL VEHICLE will ever enter on a SAM controlled area, no matter what, unless is a sead mission. Also SAMs are not on their own, usually is covered by 1 or 2 batallions on ground. Strategy cant be balanced, balanced strategy is boring as fuck.
@candlesinwoodenroom4888
11 ай бұрын
@@OneHouseofCardslol helis arent that invincible tho.
@pooyasafaei2538
4 ай бұрын
Osa akm is a beast in wargame in its own era
@someoneuppingdudetechnical6320
7 ай бұрын
I mean, they are cold war heat-seeking missiles versus a lot of concentrated flares. It may be more realistic than you think. If anything, the "unrealistic" part is thr helo being operational after being hit by the first missile
@wilt1435
5 ай бұрын
It's not heat seeking. OSA launches Radio Frequency command missiles guided by the vehicle's fire control radar. All reports of it having any Infrared missile variants were not substantiated.
@alexrider711
10 ай бұрын
Why I use continuous fire aa
@arnoldpinguin2982
4 ай бұрын
They should make tanks not able to enter thick forest like steel division, the fact it can shoot through the trees is odd
@neurofiedyamato8763
3 ай бұрын
It is not odd at all. It has been repeatedly proven tanks can traverse through thick vegetation. We saw this in the Ardennes, we seen this in Burma, we seen this in Philippines, in Guadalcanal etc. And you should see what some vets have to say even in more recent times. In training exercises, a tank assault easily knocked over moderately thick trees and routed light infantry. As is the forests already give infantry a advantage and more realistic. Visibility and speed is reduced for tanks such that they can be easily ambushed in their flanks up close if they lack infantry support. This is exactly what happens IRL but trees alone are not impassable. Terrain doesn't defend itself.
@hossahunter22
9 ай бұрын
This is how it should be
@vigowasga
Жыл бұрын
Gosh darn hilarious!
@BIGESTblade
Жыл бұрын
This is why I bring Pivads
@pedroamaral1989
6 ай бұрын
My AA works
@mikov36
Жыл бұрын
AA is like a casino.
@RTPJu
Жыл бұрын
From what game is this final audio in Japanese? It's quite familiar to me, just can't remember at all
@foxshoot3138
Жыл бұрын
fist of the nort sstar
@RTPJu
Жыл бұрын
@@foxshoot3138 thank you
@michaeljenkins3975
Жыл бұрын
Sas are best anti air I've seen on warno
@greggorski2174
11 ай бұрын
Bahahahahaha 🤣
@red_devil17
Жыл бұрын
Wtf! 😂
@yt.silentknight
Жыл бұрын
tragic
@jimmydoublegreen6515
7 ай бұрын
What skill
@alexanderkharin7036
Жыл бұрын
It's a shame of gamedevs. Thanks. i'll not waste my money on this game for sure.
@jangamaster8677
Жыл бұрын
Don’t buy any games, you won’t like them.
@thundercatld3719
Жыл бұрын
you are so right dude we should just delete all games that have RNG, no good games ever use that
@jeremiep3095
Жыл бұрын
CMR did the job
@Иван-д3т5т
6 ай бұрын
Totally unluck
@juanalbertosedanovega7730
Жыл бұрын
Frist Rank unit
@garyfrench6536
Жыл бұрын
TBF it reflects real life Russian air defence capability as displayed in the Ukraine war.
@Hassan17431
Жыл бұрын
Lmaooo nice edit
@MaicMeier
7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@Not_Octopus
Жыл бұрын
PACT AA*
@TheInfamousMrFox
Жыл бұрын
About right for a ruSSian SAM battery.
@theliteralworst9416
8 ай бұрын
The top attack TOW missile isn’t top-down attack it overfly’s the target and shoots a kinetic EFP down onto the target, it’s a horizontal path of flight all the way to the target
@livingroomgamer4724
Жыл бұрын
Hella unrealistic, one shot would finish it off
@jerbaancap5244
Жыл бұрын
Thats why i switch on the guided aa guns on my tushunka to deal with helis. I save the rockets for jets.
@ExtremeNomad
11 ай бұрын
That’s pretty accurate actually. One of the Apaches mission is to hunt down SAM sites
@peterdurum434
7 ай бұрын
No, it's not.
@rrenkrieg7988
3 ай бұрын
@@peterdurum434 yes it is, they fly real low under the rader net and lob Hellfires at the radar site from under the treeline literally the whole point of the longbow variant of the apache, they placed the sensors and targeting systems on top of the rotor so they can peek over treelines
@EricDeKirkwood99
11 ай бұрын
Whoa a 1960 missile launcher cant take on an AH64 apache? Clearly the game is broken.
@barbarapitenthusiast7103
4 ай бұрын
The OSA is better than 90% of modern American shorad sistems.
@LPDeusAnt
Жыл бұрын
You know that soviet missiles are triggered by anti rocket flares as they are old tech
@doobs5342
Жыл бұрын
the OSA has optical tracking that lets it fire even if the radar is jammed or disabled, irl at this range it would be pretty much guaranteed hits for a hovering helicopter like this.
@igor.ivasenko
Жыл бұрын
That is sad true. This game is just a joke and overpowered USA units against weak USSR army. In Warno USSR AA is just useless as many other units agains NATO.
@lolifico_banzago
Жыл бұрын
I know right? >3 T-55 in a forest >AMX-10 comes in the open to engage them >takes down two T-55 because their aim is like a drunk monkey >3rd one manage to shoot the AMX but still dies from the last shot
@drop2295
Жыл бұрын
Just Play wargame
@acookiegimme4894
Жыл бұрын
Because ussr sucks lol. Redfor is deservingly shit
@rocketassistedgoat1079
Жыл бұрын
That's realistic though: the Soviet armed forces were and are absolute rubbish compared to NATO. It is somewhat balanced out though: because the Soviets have access to huge numbers of tanks. Quantity has a quality all it's own.
@igor.ivasenko
Жыл бұрын
@@rocketassistedgoat1079 army that won ww2 agains nazi germany just 30-40 years before was rubbish? Maybe you just learned history from disney cartoons?
@psychzach1588
Жыл бұрын
Warno really sucks.
@LauftFafa
Жыл бұрын
yeah lets judge on it based on the past experience of someone else . best wargame since world in conflict and its not even full release
@kevincho1187
Жыл бұрын
@@LauftFafaWargame red dragon is what this game wants to be. Warno is absolute garbage compared to its predecessor. Cause in that game AA was deadly but fragile. SEAD was always a threat but AA could do its job.
@LauftFafa
Жыл бұрын
@@kevincho1187 it doesnt mate . warno is superior than red dragon on everything except on scale but did you see the upcoming stuffs like the berlin map or are you just talking while having in mind the warno from 7 months ago ? you will be surprised soon . its better than steel division 2 even and is following the same path but with better bigger stuffs . warno is the closest we ever got to world in conflict in term of visuals and smooth gameplay and fun . if you have a negative opinion go post it on steam and lets see if its gonna matter or not between all other positive reviews
@kevincho1187
Жыл бұрын
@@LauftFafa I dont see how any of its superior, warno is just red dragon without the content, your just braindead
@parapencarinasibungkus2680
Жыл бұрын
Wait for broken arrow
@henryoshea4951
Жыл бұрын
It is effectively impossible for a radar guided missile to hit a stationary target, so cant say this is unrealistic
@Phoenix11111
Жыл бұрын
OK great but... that's not how the game works
@alexvonrom7942
Жыл бұрын
Fr?
@Phoenix11111
Жыл бұрын
@@alexvonrom7942 Yeah. You can see the heli spinning out and moving around while stunned and the AA still misses 😭😭
@567jt
Жыл бұрын
besides the fact it's spinning out of control
@henryoshea4951
Жыл бұрын
@@567jt It isnt moving up, down, left or right by any considerable amount, and so a Radar would not be able to determine the range to the target
@Martyr_of_vigilance
9 ай бұрын
Helicopter: *used flares to fend off missile lock* Player: 🤯 (Great edit though thank you for the content)
@ZetaPrime9699
4 ай бұрын
Osa uses radar guidance so flares would be useless anyway.
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