Unsubbed yesterday, and when he said: "I remember the items I got back in vanilla tbc, I don't remember the highest titanforge I got in in Legion". Hit me right in my heart... Good old benediction
@Gigaboss87
6 жыл бұрын
Core hound tooth and perdition's blade. Those were the days.
@sil240sxrwd1
6 жыл бұрын
I still remember the first time I got a piece of Tier gear from Molten Core. I could tell you the player's name's that were in the raid and what boss it dropped from.
@Xerocoo
6 жыл бұрын
Quel’Serrar. Doing that fucking headache of surviving Onyxia breath attack, and than after she died, hoping the sword wouldn’t despawn the body with all the loot... but walking around Ironforge with that sword, I felt like an elite amongst tanks
@Athanazeus
6 жыл бұрын
I almost cried when I got the leaf quest from majordomo. Stopped playing at wotlk. Following the rest through social media and it sucked since wotlk.
@andrem9350
6 жыл бұрын
Gigaboss87 Spot on, it's my dagger combo transmog till this day. Qiraji Reaper+Iblis for swords... Timeless stuff.
@harrisonpayne1179
6 жыл бұрын
Oh boy, can't wait for Asmongold to react to this one.
@meadandmilk
6 жыл бұрын
I came here to post that
@2010vintagesandwichenjoyer
6 жыл бұрын
hey i came here to post that too!
@billybobby5247
6 жыл бұрын
I hope he makes a reaction to his reaction of his original video
@brads6777
6 жыл бұрын
Why the fuck would he do that?
@mydemon
5 жыл бұрын
so good.... I lolled
@WoWAholics101
6 жыл бұрын
I completely misunderstood how Azerite traits would work when I played Beta. These traits are one of the most annoying, least fulfilling, and confusing things to ever be added to the game. I hate them so, so much. I hate the fact that I need to sim every single piece I get because I legit have no idea what traits are good, but then also keep every Azerite piece I get because I don't know when Blizzard will decide that one of my traits is too OP and give it the Gladiator Warrior treatment. This is probably my least favourite thing right now when it comes to BFA, but it's not the only thing I'm not liking. Quick shout out to Warfronts and Islands for being 2 highly promoted expansion features that are actually some of the least fun content I have ever had the misfortune of experiencing.
@skltr5177
6 жыл бұрын
Darnasuss was justified.
@Folsomdsf2
6 жыл бұрын
Warfronts should have been a rotating event. darkshore should have been in the game already and darkshore shuold have been up when arathi was down for each side. I would have added a third as well outright that was exclusively a new pvp mode similar to back in wotlk large scale assault. Islands are actually.. not too bad of an idea, but I think they're not varied enough. It should have been called expeditions and not been restricted to shitbasket islands. These are the types of times they could have generated a lot of content procedurally, one of the few fucking times... and all they did was leave in this couple various scripted bullshit.
@Folsomdsf2
6 жыл бұрын
The brawlers guild is still around.
@Esotaric08
6 жыл бұрын
warfront is such a fraudulent experience it cannot stay like this for the rest of the expansion. Island on the other hand if they add lot more cosmetic item it "could" be worthwhile. Then again i thought terrains are auto generated like diablo 3, sadly it wasn't.
@yourgamechest
6 жыл бұрын
The real problem is not Azerite but the fact that this is a single expansion feature. If Blizz wanted to rebuild the system now - it would take a long time, probably around 8.3 to implement in game. By that time the exp would be almost over so there is no point in putting so much work into that. They will slap a hotfix here and there but I would not expect a major overhaul.
@thorish933
5 жыл бұрын
The devs don't play it, they're busy on their mobile phones.
@FoxyLollyy
5 жыл бұрын
They’re playing Diablo mobile lul
@Rezza203
5 жыл бұрын
Dev: what, do you guys don't have phone?
@neptune.2566
5 жыл бұрын
savage
@Enderlinkpawnu
5 жыл бұрын
Watch: they are all actually playing OSRS on mobile and not even any blizzard game.
@Andrew-vt2wq
5 жыл бұрын
dont you guys have phones lol?
@tardwrangler
6 жыл бұрын
Devs: "Pay cash to level up" Devs: Oh shit we need to find ways to make the game longer
@fistertwister30
6 жыл бұрын
I want to give this more thumbs up. But I am just one man!
@PretentiousLatinName
6 жыл бұрын
damn this is so real
@Barbaque421
6 жыл бұрын
Preach reacts: “Asmongold - The State of Battle for Azeroth”
@hyrel668
6 жыл бұрын
That would actually be epic and a lot of fun!
@alexclaton
6 жыл бұрын
I look forward to that
@Green-tf8uw
6 жыл бұрын
Asmongold reacts: "Asmongold - The State of Battle for Azeroth”
@TwoBaze
6 жыл бұрын
ROFL. This comment caught me off guard. Thanks! Now i can clean up my desk from all the coffee i spitted out because i laughed my ass off
@juress
6 жыл бұрын
DO EEET
@tnpcook
6 жыл бұрын
I remember getting bloodfall in ICC 25. I don't even know the name of my weapon right now.
@DisemboweII
6 жыл бұрын
I'll never forget obtaining Bryntroll, the Bone Arbiter from Marrowgar as a Blood DK. So hype. Now i'm using some PvP two hander that rolled stupidly high ilvl. Great.
@alyishiking
6 жыл бұрын
Same. I couldn't tell you the name of any of my gear, but I sure am sick of STILL carrying a 325 offhand. RNG is fucking dumb.
@hansfriedemann739
6 жыл бұрын
My deathbringers will D: man when I finally got that ohhhhh
@Buraz93
6 жыл бұрын
Deathbringer's will was the fucking op shit! Raids and guilds were collapsing because of it!
@Fearienify
6 жыл бұрын
@@Buraz93 first time i ever ran heroic i won a heroic will. Best run of my life
@beep3527
3 жыл бұрын
2 years ago wtf, this felt like yesterday.
@thomster8639
3 жыл бұрын
I hope he does one for Shadowlands, would be much more positive and enjoyable to watch
@space.pirate481
3 жыл бұрын
@B͜͡o͜͡b͜͡a͜͡ t͜͡e͜͡a͜͡ but he doesn't post there him,his editors so your point?
@TheLolkikker
6 жыл бұрын
The problem is that the main goal blizzard is aiming for is not player enjoyment, but hours played.
@jimakaturbo
6 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I cringe when I see WQ on the map. Grinding WQ for 3 hours on two toons is not fun. Artifact power sucks.
@fistertwister30
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, alts are a pain in the ass. Even changing specs is a pain in the ass.
@michaelscritchfield1
6 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more... I see it as they are replacing the fun created content with RNG timewalls. I feel they believe its easier and faster to create rng timewalls as opposed to creating content that will last the same amount of time. I understand they may be frustrated that they create content and players consistently blow through it like its nothing.... but I still feel that they , the devs, are getting lazy and falling back on WQs and RNG for the "perfect" drop way too often.
@fistertwister30
6 жыл бұрын
Idk about other people but when ever I blew through content, I would go pvp. That is the beauty of having good pvp and good pve, if you get bored with one, you just go do the other. Just back and forth constantly.
@danielskrivan6921
6 жыл бұрын
This is why I quit in MoP, and why I've tried every expansion and quit again. The game feels like you have chores to do.
@AnthonySNY
6 жыл бұрын
Its not the developers. Its the game designers. The original game designers, Like Jeff Kaplan for example, who were part of the original Mike Morhaime team, are gone. Blizzard is essentially an Activision Brand now, and the game reflects that.
@ilovedrugseveryday
6 жыл бұрын
So true. I think Morheime is just sick of the Activision corporate bullshit and quits, just like Metzen.
@someone-ji2zb
6 жыл бұрын
Developer is a blanket term that include creative leads as well as game directors. Unless you are talking about coders? But no one blames coders/programmers for the game's direction.
@AnthonySNY
6 жыл бұрын
@someone667 there's a very distinct difference between "developer" and "people making design decisions". devs are coders... the latter is more in line with executive production. It's important to note because the DEVELOPERS are the ones who take the chance to go on social media, but end up getting flamed. executive producers are either invisible to the public, or have teams of PR staff working to protect their reputations.
@AnthonySNY
6 жыл бұрын
@ilovedrugseveryday Mike, and Chris, and Rob Pardo (he was very open about the crap he went through prior to leaving), and the entire Wildstar team, and countless others who have since moved on.
@someone-ji2zb
6 жыл бұрын
Well you are wrong about that. Game developers are not necessarily the coders themselves. In fact, the coders generally have little to no say as to how the game turns out, other than if they claim there are limitations to things that they were suppose to be doing.
@noklar8760
6 жыл бұрын
Blizzard, just accept that kids will be playing Fortnite rather than WoW, and make this game an adult game once more.
@palidus
6 жыл бұрын
as a 1 month old infant, i agree with you
@anthippo91
6 жыл бұрын
As a semen swimming upstream I agree
@lecommenter8528
6 жыл бұрын
As a godlike alpha male who has sex with 10 women a day, I agree
@kgb3310
6 жыл бұрын
how wonderful would that be oh god!
@picklechin3061
6 жыл бұрын
As a mother, I agree.
@xezee
3 жыл бұрын
Almost 3 years later - nothing changed. Amazing.
@VegardLa
3 жыл бұрын
Well, some things have changed. :) hopefully for the better
@Zippism
2 жыл бұрын
@@VegardLa 9.1.5 did make some good changes
@Kaldor-Draigo-h6q
2 жыл бұрын
Oof... I can't tell which is worse. The fact that this vid is now 3 years since the time I watched it or the fact that there are people who sub to this game still thinking anything is going to change.
@Ariesxz
2 жыл бұрын
@@Kaldor-Draigo-h6q The people who keep subbing no matter how the game is being developed are one of the reasons it's getting worse and worse.
@user-xx6nj8eg4o
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, he’s still a loser gamer, with no real life. You freaks are worthless pieces of human excrement, you contribute, literally NOTHING actually useful for society.
@alessandroaldobrandi1704
6 жыл бұрын
Blizzard: it's not us, it's you.
@lynxerz
6 жыл бұрын
well you know, you think you do...
@alessandroaldobrandi1704
6 жыл бұрын
The only thing you listed that i actually want is flying lol I never asked for lfr and will always be against it
@arpadszabo661
6 жыл бұрын
Blizzard is slowly turning into Disney and WoW is turning into the Last Jedi. Like how Disney attacked the fans and called them the problem and claimed that last jedi has no problems at all, people who watched it are just stupid.
@semiserioussam
6 жыл бұрын
That hurt to read only because of how true it is.
@Sebastian-ni4le
6 жыл бұрын
same happened to starcraft 2
@JohnnyMcMenamin
6 жыл бұрын
“Like what’s fun about leveling up your necklace...that does nothing; you can’t even click on it.”
@C0tK3n
6 жыл бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/1Y-PsW2vpHpilYo
@spacepianos
6 жыл бұрын
I hope Preach makes a 40 minute video where he just watches this video and goes "uh-huh", "yeah", "thats right", "I get what he's saying dude".
@jamiethemagictorch
6 жыл бұрын
"This is big"
@saphrix4587
6 жыл бұрын
“Okay” “TRRRUUUUUEEE”
@uffetherkildsen8123
6 жыл бұрын
"What do you think MCconnel?"
@MOHCTP9ik
6 жыл бұрын
“Listen to this, this is really important!”
@CALISUPERSPORT
6 жыл бұрын
Does he usually agree with Asmon? Feel like Preach likes being a contrarian to be honest...
@ShimithDomencio
6 жыл бұрын
he got more epics in this vid killing frogs than you got in 4 months of raiding in vanilla
@Legion852
5 жыл бұрын
THIS SO MUCH THIS ......Since WOTLK they have given epics away for breathing air.
@davedunks4647
5 жыл бұрын
Yea.... 'inventory full' I was thinking oh... so they drop so often now you just leave them on the ground? Okay. Glad I'm not subbed to this dumb game.
@uchiwalaumdilala
5 жыл бұрын
@@Legion852 Make that 2.4.3 and Isle of Quel'danas
@alexbrown2529
5 жыл бұрын
LOL, I remember spending a month trying to get sul thraze the lasher. Getting it was so damn rewarding. Then saving up enough to buy a skull flame shield. Ah, such good gaming experiences for me. I left during cata when wotlk made epics mince meat. Plus having full ulduar 25 gear and being told gearscore wasnt high enough for toc 25, ass.
@brandonconvery420
5 жыл бұрын
@@alexbrown2529 I was one of those lucky bastards that just found sul thraze randomly on a mob. I was more upset that even then after finding my first epic I replaced it with a blue 3 lvls later
@FeRReTNS
6 жыл бұрын
It's time to stop calling them Blizzard and start calling them who they really are ... *ACTIVISION* :(
@rzv.sketchify
6 жыл бұрын
Holy shit this is so savage. I'll start doing that.
@higgsbosontesticle
6 жыл бұрын
Very true. I think Blizzard could do some really awe-inspiring things but the SUITS -- the businessmen -- are keeping them down; limiting more than just the budget.
@Dicertification
6 жыл бұрын
This. What made Blizzard is gone. It is now Activision.
@WingZX1103
6 жыл бұрын
FeRReT NS ironically, they have destiny 2 and black ops 4 on the battle net loader instead of either making their own launcher or putting it on steam
@Ahmetfusta
6 жыл бұрын
Actizzard or Blivision?
@Paddzr
6 жыл бұрын
Look at Wrath: You had emblems of Trumph, noobie farming friendly, you got decent enough gear to step into raids and you were getting some emblems of frost so even as a noobie doing dungeons, you could get a raid item eventually! SO then you're ready to play in raids because you don't suck as much due to some experience you gained... Tokens and emblem of frost from ICC, you could gradually farm your pieces, you knew how long it'll take to get pieces of your set, bravo, you go every week to get full set then get tokens in guild setting and you keep progressing to HC and get more tokens and more gear, bravo, rewarding and metered experience. No one will get all gear on day one due to BS titanforge. PVP, you get shit beaten by full wrathful gear, you grind your ass off in arena and BGs eventually you earn enough honour and rating to buy gear you want and become the holy pala that 1v5s in BG against furious geared noobs aspiring to be like YOU. Bravo, rewarding and satisfaction!
@krew111
6 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree with you more! Starting out getting the crap beat out of you to 1v5ing in BGs was one of the best feelings I've had in WoW. Also I will never understand why on earth they got rid of PvP vendors! I would visit the vendors so often to see what I can eventually get. I would shift, right click them to see how awesome I would look aswell lol
@Ren3gade
6 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for Classic WoW. PvP Vendors should have never been removed.
@m_s7155
6 жыл бұрын
Wrath was the best.
@nillomat
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah nowadays you farm rep and by the time you get the 350 items you have way better stuff from dungeons already and that's the only thing you can realistically farm for.
@Ashuowl
6 жыл бұрын
When did they get rid of Honor/Conquest vendors? I quit back in MoP and back then they were still in the game, I came back due to friends wanting me to raid in BFA, so I have no idea if it was in WoD or Legion or whenever.
@AngeloWoW
6 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%. The direction in which Blizzard is taking World of Warcraft simply by not listening to the players is shocking.
@reallyPheelz
6 жыл бұрын
Right? These are all things we've been saying since mod
@eleson2568
6 жыл бұрын
Is this your first expansion they have been doing this since wrath of the lich king
@eleson2568
6 жыл бұрын
@exzses yeh it sucks I agree :(
@tylerwells4808
6 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Really sad to see.
@MiniKratos
6 жыл бұрын
They used to say that X game was going to be the wow killer. Little did they know that the only thing that could kill wow was its creator.
@Cristian69-96
Жыл бұрын
Can’t believe this was already half a decade ago… I remember watching this 2 days after it was uploaded.
@youngfreshsandwitch
2 ай бұрын
I dont know where the time went, it all seems like it was yesterday
@chance89851
6 жыл бұрын
I unsubbed, thanks Asmongold. "I remember the items I got back in vanilla tbc, I don't remember the highest titanforge I got in in Legion" got me right there.
@Ayecie.
6 жыл бұрын
I got my BIS from a fucking blingtron in Legion
@robertp457
6 жыл бұрын
The reason for that is loot was so rare in Vanilla. I raided for a year and didn't get a single drop in Vanilla.
@cyteriz95
6 жыл бұрын
I also unsubbed few days ago and cancelled my gametime, feels so good. Waiting for Classic/tbc/wotlk now.
@Vvewa
6 жыл бұрын
did you kill a boss?
@Romeis
6 жыл бұрын
I remember because it was +70 on a fucking Broken Shore rare, so ridiculous.
@realdanetrain
6 жыл бұрын
This video just made me realize that I log in everyday strictly due to addiction and not due to enjoyment or fullfillment. Its a never ending cycle of "hoping it will be better."
@jacobstewart6552
6 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more man! I log in every day making new characters trying to find a purpose for wow. I play everyday but i don't enjoy it.
@synth_pulse3098
6 жыл бұрын
@@jacobstewart6552 Try guild wars 2! i am in the same boat and decided to dive into a new MMO and my god is it a breath of fresh air.
@Frey_64
6 жыл бұрын
Yes. this video have opened my eyes about what I feel every time I log in and just do stuff without knowing how I really feel.
@Endeva09
6 жыл бұрын
I hate to say it but this feeling hit me towards the start of Legion, I kept playing, and kept playing, 30+ hours a week, then 20, then just raid nights, then I realised exactly how you have realised, this amazing game is not amazing anymore, its soulless
@zananabanana
6 жыл бұрын
You're in an abusive relationship and you cant leave because....where would you go
@RobsPlays
6 жыл бұрын
I loved WoW when your character were nobody in Azeroth. Players were bunch of people who just went raiding or doing quest. Now, every player is a "Champion" the savior of Alliance or Horde. It breaks the immersion of the whole world which i fell love in a first place. I really liked how Kalimdor and Eastern kingdoms felt a huge world back then. Feeling that you just were one of the civilian who tried to become one of the powerfull person in Azeroth like Arthas, Jaina, Thrall or Muradin. One of the big things were socializing in the Chat. You have to communicate with people to actually achieve something. I think that was the gamechanger i MMORPG games in the first place. Now you just que in a random dungeon teleporting instantly to the dungeon. Everyone knows their role and no-one speaks a word while running the dungeon unless tank or healer fucks up. I've played the new expansion and i agree with you. It's not the same unique game anymore. Im sorry for my english, it's not my native language. :(
@grindingmantras7434
6 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you. So much games now days try to lure you in with the you-are-hero crap. Too much of it brings a hero-crissis. Where the players feel like they are too powerfull and nothing else is improtant anymore. Everything loses its value and the heroes fall into the in-game depression.
@ebolachanislove6072
6 жыл бұрын
To some extent the player has earned respect from the game itself. The player at high levels into the game has proven they are powerful and competent. By doing quests they have solved hundreds if not thousands of (sometimes) dire issues in the world. By the time you hit level 70 you have accomplished more than Jaina Thrall and Muradin combined.
@RobsPlays
6 жыл бұрын
@@ebolachanislove6072 Indeed! And that max level was really hard to achieve in the first place. I remember when i saw lvl 60 max players and admire them how much they have put effort to reach max level. Nowdays you can buy max level and heirlooms to boost your xp gain.
@Matthiaslipknot
6 жыл бұрын
I began WoW on vanilla, stopped on WOTLK. And years after I stopped this game that gave me so much fun, and love for the adventure I was living, I tried BFA. And I absolutely agree with what you are saying. 100% My thoughts. There is no communication, you're not living the thrilling adventure you were living back when the game was actually difficult. When taking on a dungeon meant putting a team together, which took time, and being solid together. Communcating and living this adventure together. Grow together. Its ALL gone.
@ebolachanislove6072
6 жыл бұрын
@@Matthiaslipknot For me that died in MoP. (Huh so did the story come to think of it.) I did my first dungeon as a tank and everything in the dungeon was being one shot by our hunter faster than I could charge to it. Then I tried an LFR run and the first boss was killed by the party before I (the tank) loaded into the instance.
@ditto9068
6 жыл бұрын
You know its gotten really bad when ya boi asmongold makes a video
@bozzik7804
6 жыл бұрын
Ditto and he turns his light on
@Joeyfield0
4 жыл бұрын
and then never makes a video ever again cause it be on point
@scadindemand
6 жыл бұрын
BFA = Blizzard Failed Again
@mobspeak
6 жыл бұрын
Haven't played since WoD and I'm glad I stayed away, this game is turning into a slot machine, complete trash.
@shintokami030
6 жыл бұрын
:(
@Strrroke
6 жыл бұрын
BfA is doing a good job in hyping up vanilla ^_^
@TheMrBigBadBrad
6 жыл бұрын
Gonna be a RuneScape situation. The oldstyle game is bigger than the old one now haha
@even1313
6 жыл бұрын
Vanilla will have a niche audience at best. People who enjoy todays games won't put up with the archaic systems in vanilla. Just look at how many threads there are about flying on the forums for proof of this.
@Nubbiecakes
6 жыл бұрын
vanilla won't be nearly as popular as people seem to think it will be, methinks . this coming from someone who played Vanilla-TBC, and tried playing on a Private Server recently.
@brnddi
6 жыл бұрын
Nostalrius had 800k accounts and almost 200k active players when it was shut down, and it was a fucking private server. Classic is gonna be huge.
@even1313
6 жыл бұрын
And how many people only played because it was free?
@jewelrycad5898
3 жыл бұрын
Watching this video is like looking back at the beginning of the end. What a sad state this company is in and still nothing has changed.
@redbeard406
6 жыл бұрын
Blizzard take notes from this video before you kill our game.. Please..
@optikjoe985
6 жыл бұрын
they killed the game 9 years ago
@modernwarfare186
6 жыл бұрын
its not your game. its theirs
@toastyzwillard
6 жыл бұрын
@@modernwarfare186 it is the communities game. Wow cant exist without players.
@alexstefan4442
6 жыл бұрын
Without the players, there IS no game.
@Asmongold_CatDany
6 жыл бұрын
another asmongold channel? wtf
@August-ok9rt
6 жыл бұрын
lol you're dumb this is his main channel
@critta13333333333333
6 жыл бұрын
@@August-ok9rt r/whoooosh
@JakeRaymond7
6 жыл бұрын
Ironic you're calling someone dumb when it was you that didn't understand the joke.
@rain1796
6 жыл бұрын
@World of August imagine having negative IQ score
@CamXXL
6 жыл бұрын
What if World of August purposely said that, And we're all the retards and he's the one who's 200 IQ
@patrikpass2962
6 жыл бұрын
He looks genuinely sad in this video. Close to tears. I don't play but i feel bad for people who has invested in WoW.
@SpotShot7777
6 жыл бұрын
Truly sad the direction the game has gone for long term fans. That's why there's such a push for classic.
@jacobketcham4566
6 жыл бұрын
Sad, but not quite close to tears. I think that's just him stifling several burps throughout the video. He's a gassy boy.
@ericarizaazules
6 жыл бұрын
Well you can start playing with private server
@patrikpass2962
6 жыл бұрын
we all do but its never enough we always want more its never enough we want to be kids again and start new characters on private servers but its never enough its doesn't feel the same we always want more
@heyitspanos8004
4 жыл бұрын
2 years ago today, and shadowlands on the horizon. Time flies
@jijasparks
6 жыл бұрын
Recommended: Asmongold reacts to "The State of Battle for Azeroth" (Twitch highlight)
@Xerocoo
6 жыл бұрын
My buddy I work with said it the best; feels like the game was made by greedy Activision and not passionate Blizzard.
@MATTYBE
6 жыл бұрын
Blizzard = Activision now.
@STAVROS1801
6 жыл бұрын
nipa 101 is just a triggered kid
@SpankinDaBagel
6 жыл бұрын
@@nipa1013 arguments aren't needed when you say stuff so nonsensical.
@Xerocoo
6 жыл бұрын
nipa 101 no this is Activision. Blizzard had always been about what is the best experience for the players... and I’m talking about all their games in the late 90’s to the early 2000’s. It is why they had become titans in the industry . This incarnation of Blizzard is about spreadsheets and graphs. They could salvage WoW this very moment. They could change and fix all the issues the game has... but... that would go outside of their charts and projected precious budget, and the Lords of Greed sitting on their thrones in Activision would never be happy about going outside of their profits. Play Destiny 2, it’s very eerie similar how the games are alike now
@acek.7094
6 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I quit after two weeks. I felt like a hamster on a wheel. Total waste of time.
@nguyenn99527
6 жыл бұрын
Good, don't ever come back or even think about coming back. You also should have refunded you waste money fuck.
@muffin6810
6 жыл бұрын
@Black Panther oh my
@VS666
6 жыл бұрын
yeah man, totally. hamster on a goddamn wheel
@Svilly12
6 жыл бұрын
I spent the last few months of Legion purely doing gold making. About a month from BFA I bought a three month subscription, leveled one alt up in BFA, then stopped. It's just not fun. No classes I played, and I have all but three at 110, felt good. They all feel shit.
@1lovgren
6 жыл бұрын
rofl been like that since cataclysm tho
@kevinranders
5 жыл бұрын
BFA drove me away. Played since original open beta and BFA was the straw for me.
@ResponsibleBread
3 жыл бұрын
This shit stinks even more now, quite sad.
@zomgpeoplestolemname
6 жыл бұрын
I just want normal loot back. I want vendors back, I want to be able to reforge my gear so when I get a trash piece it can become not as trash. That's all I want.
@Hazelnaria
6 жыл бұрын
Pandaria was a nice time, Just the thunderfarging was Trash But Over all i think MOP was the Last great expension
@mino9147
6 жыл бұрын
@@Hazelnaria Definitely
@NomNomNom1989
6 жыл бұрын
@@Hazelnaria i still dont understand how people can complain about mop. In my eyes mop felt like the last complete expansion. The balancing was great, awesome pve content, everyone had different professions (not alchemy bc the rest is useless), very less bugs compared to legion, big graphic improvement, i play since classic and i never missed out an expansion and i never had so much fun like in mop. Wod was clearly the shittiest expansion. I also think legion wasnt that shit at all. I had much fun in pve (first time in my life bc i had no fun anymore in pvp due to unbalanced classes). Ofc many things should have been improvement. But many good things came into game. Magetower challange, artefactskins, mythic +, orderhall with their awesome class questlines for all classes and i enjoyed them all.
@jordan3237
6 жыл бұрын
I don't think vendors alone will make the game enjoyable... there is no innovation for content anymore.
@momobec1
6 жыл бұрын
zomgpeoplestolemname dude, why did they remove reforging I’m still fucking triggered over that...
@Ocelot429
6 жыл бұрын
I just cancelled my sub. Something that I never felt like doing in Legion. They don't even make you go through the process to give feedback on your reason for cancelling your subscription. I clicked "Cancel Subscription" it threw up a box and asked me if I was sure and then nothing after I clicked yes. It just cancel is without any boxes or ticks to check to explain my reason. They just don't care anymore apparently
@evilsdemise1287
6 жыл бұрын
I also unsubbed and I thought it had bugged out when I did it because I remember that there was a "tell us why" part to canceling your sub in the past and this time I didn't see anything of the sort. Honestly it made me feel like they didn't care if I subbed or canceled.
@skannerz22
6 жыл бұрын
you're weak
@Matthew_mcmahon20
6 жыл бұрын
The box submit thing was given useless feedback so they removed it
@Ocelot429
6 жыл бұрын
@@skannerz22 Eh. I'm just not having fun with WoW in BFA so I'm not going to pay for it. I've hardly logged in in 2 weeks and dont really have much desire to anymore. So I'll save the 15 bucks and spend it elsewhere. It's not a matter of being weak as much as it is the game not being worth my 15 bucks
@tnpcook
6 жыл бұрын
If it's useless feedback, that's because of the mechanisms they had allowed it to collect. Any input from an unhappy customer, especially systematic and quantifiable, is always useful. They could have defined a few things they were interested in, even. "Did you quit because you were unhappy with the game? Y/N" Even that simple of a question, over years, can let you know if more players are happy or not relative to the population.
@desrt33
6 жыл бұрын
Accessible to all, enjoyed by none.
@IseltheOverseer
6 жыл бұрын
Fuck.
@martinjurkiewicz3778
6 жыл бұрын
"if you make a game for everyone you make a game for no one"
@MrSaltytoast
6 жыл бұрын
absolutely NO ONE ENJOYS THIS GAME. seriously?
@del6553
6 жыл бұрын
I find it impressive that the man kept talking for 34mins straight without pausing
@zedthefish
6 жыл бұрын
I would rather grind boars in Elwynn Forest as a warrior in Vanilla than run around doing world quests in BFA. Doing world quests feels WAY more 'grindy' as well as boring and unfulfilling. The game play you have shown in this video emphasizes another reason why I feel BFA (and previous expansions) are bad - you don't have to focus or think about anything (eg. health, mana, etc). Just go gather up a bunch of mobs, roll your face over your keyboard, and you will kill them all. No thrill or challenge. No fear or possibly of dying and suffering the consequences. It's just shit. Like many people I have loved this game for 13+ years, but I have to be honest and say since Cata the game has worsened continually. I remember the hate towards MOP but compared to Legion and BFA, MOP was a masterpiece.
@DarkRavin07
6 жыл бұрын
Heres a wq with 120-300 ap.... you need 20+k ap for next level...
@BruceWillis57
6 жыл бұрын
@@DarkRavin07 so then dont farm it idiot. Once your neck hits lvl 23 you literally dont need to farm anymore AP.. and its not hard at all anymore to hit lvl 23 cause the ap reduction. Stop complaining about content you think you HAVE to do when you really dont
@lateralsx7
6 жыл бұрын
@@DarkRavin07 the game is just a diablo copy paste. Its funny how years ago I was calling this game world of diablo because the hack n slash aspect of the game (basically every piece of relevant content is about killing everything in your path to collect loot) was so strong but now its literally diablo mmo version
@paullatina7413
6 жыл бұрын
Any coincidence that the Azerite wheel looks like a roulette wheel......🤔
@Paul-hu1ht
5 жыл бұрын
This game went to shit many xpacs ago, there was nothing like swimming across the lake from Elwynn Forrest to Darkshire and being mauled apart by lvl 20 wolves (skulls when you're like lvl 6 or so). The little things like this, the sense of exploration and atmosphere have gone and Blizzard can never get that back. #RIP WoW
@toyosenpai
5 жыл бұрын
Yoo that was the shit. I started the game when the Mohawk grenade ad came out
@Richard-lc3jc
5 жыл бұрын
Your wrong
@alexrabkin870
5 жыл бұрын
I believe that youre wrong. The game can recover. Just change the game next xpac. Make it bard. Make it fulfilling. If they start a new thing rather than followinv the last 5 xpacs it will get better, even back to vanilla.
@Sh0cKTr4uMa
6 жыл бұрын
Who else canceled their subscription? Like this if you did.
@itsyaboicory5029
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, witcher 3 instead. So many other good games coming out too.
@mintedcow
6 жыл бұрын
unsubbed a couple weeks ago. But when I quit, there wasn't a survey or questionnaire about why I quit. Did they stop doing that?
@GoodChicken01
6 жыл бұрын
Minted Cow probably because Blizzard got tired of reading nothing but toxic waste on the questionnaire. Lmao. I quit as well, I’ll just wait for 8.1, make one subscription payment to give myself a month if i like it and decide from there. I refuse to pay $15 a month for an incomplete game
@brianfalcon9016
6 жыл бұрын
mine expired last week. I'm having a GREAT time in Monster Hunter World, and I feel rewarded everytime i do something when i play. Been playing wow non-stop since Cata.
@zubstep
6 жыл бұрын
I let 20+ days of game time just expire. No desire to continue playing.
@GlinkBetweenWorlds
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Asmongold for your in-depth analysis and insight always appreciated. it’s sad to see World of Warcraft in this state and honestly I’m glad I avoided this expansion. all we can hope for now is a good classic hopefully blizzard doesn’t fuck that up
@TheAddexiofan
6 жыл бұрын
Glink love your videos fam.
@audinionkundesu
6 жыл бұрын
My man❤️ i miss your hunter gameplay ;(
@jimjam7226
6 жыл бұрын
-implying Activision blizzard will not fuck classic up with level 60 boosts and paid loot crates with a .05% chance to drop [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]
@plebmcpleb5761
6 жыл бұрын
Glink my boy you're still alive
@rasmuserlandsson2204
6 жыл бұрын
They will change all the dances to fortnite dances
@Gr0s3d
6 жыл бұрын
i really hate, when the hater post a trash comment: "wow is trash", etc, and blizz tell him, tell me more about your problem or be more specific, but when the real players make contructive feedback about the game, blizzard dont give a shit about our opinión...
@icaanul
6 жыл бұрын
It's PR. It's to put a damper on negative feedback. They have no intention to listen. They just want for the responses to be more positive in case Daddyvision or stockholders take a look. There is nothing to be confused about. They are bottom tier developers with bottom tier mods, making a bottom tier game with bottom tier communication and trying to milk as much profit as possible with as little effort as possible. tldr; corporate world
@Nagrandt
6 жыл бұрын
Ditto, so fucking true.
@Fain255
3 жыл бұрын
Legendary video right here. I remember that this was the first Asmongold video I watched 2 years ago and I had never even played WoW ever. When I think about it I don't even know why the fuck I watched this video but man... I'm glad I did. Love you Asmon.
@howsmygun9359
6 жыл бұрын
The amount of things removed with BFA extremely out weigh the amount of things added, hard to feel it's even an expansion.
@darthbaked3125
6 жыл бұрын
its just 7.5 bro..
@chadbugansky
6 жыл бұрын
Removed to add back in later. Call it content.
@bllau
6 жыл бұрын
Like Ghost said on the web show with Preach they'll just re add it in an expansion and call it a selling point.
@Ashuowl
6 жыл бұрын
I mean is there anything NEW besides you know the zones you wont ever visit after getting exalted, except killing the world boss maybe once a week... The warfront which is shit, the island expedition which is shit.. Is there really anything new? Raids aren't a new concept, dungeons aren't a new concept, mythic + isn't a new concept, world quests isn't a new concept, the lore feels..just weird, I still hate the fucking horses. Incursions or however that's spelled that is coming up is just Legion invasions and nothing new.. Is there really something truly new like the warfront and island expedition in this expansion.. That's actually fun to do? No, the two CORE NEW stuff that they put out are both fucking horrendous, not fun and just truly garbage. And Blizzard wont change a thing about them since they're a bunch of delusional degens.
@BatrickPateman430
6 жыл бұрын
I mean leveling in a completely new expansion knowing you won't get any new exciting abilities for your class sucks. Knowing what awaits you at 120 is farming world quests over and over sucks. Playing classes that are so slow, clunky and a lot weaker than before sucks. Knowing Blizzard doesn't care what people want but just want to do whatever they want sucks. I'm done with WoW.
@EE-wu7kz
6 жыл бұрын
World quests are better than daily quests to be fair.
@idk2865
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah Exactly how I felt man
@someguy3508
6 жыл бұрын
@@EE-wu7kz daily quests weren't essential though. I mean i only did dailies for either rep in wotlk for the enchantments or in TBC to get gold in isle of quel'danas (dont remember the exact name). WQ now are essential to progression and they just suck. Even in Legion after some time people were done with them. Personally i am quitting BFA aswell. Even in WoD i had more fun especially for the first 2-3 months and in BRF (it was awesome). Also fury warrior with 1handed weapons was a thing
@EE-wu7kz
6 жыл бұрын
In what way are world quests essential to the game if not to get rep? If you don't care about rep you could skip world quests completely. I agree WoD was actually pretty good the first 1-2 months of the game.
@Lembaspl7777
6 жыл бұрын
Main war campaing is based on 7th legion / horde part reputation. Patchfinder similarily. The main EQ piece (neck) ilvl is mostly boosted by getting rep with Bronzebeard faction which can only be gotten by farming world quests. The whole "artifact power" is in big part connected to world quests, because other options of getting it are usually mindless grinding stuff. All in all, world quests were always quite boring. In Legion though, they gave you atleast a small amount of thrill, while now they are just simply a chore. Its like its Legion 0.5 for the BFA, not only in World quests, but also in other things.
@FredsRandomFinds
6 жыл бұрын
If you think Blizzards communication is bad as a US player try being an EU one, I have been playing since BC and can honestly say i have never seen a Dev post directly to the EU forums or join in any conversations.. The only Dev posts we get are copy/pasted over from the US forums by a CM.
@Shatamx
6 жыл бұрын
johnyfartpants I mean in fairness the guys work in California. Sure they could assign a 3rd shift crew to cater for EU needs. Guessing they could never justify the manpower to their bosses to help you guys out. I mean Christ even East coast players like myself got screwed from patches in the past. I remember the Black temple patch wasn’t ready intill 10pm Tuesday night.
@IshayuG
6 жыл бұрын
why is there even a EU forum? Forums should be split by language, not region.
@FredsRandomFinds
6 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, and surely we are reaching a time where there shouldn't even be different regions for the clients and maybe even one joined up realm? Eve-Online has had one server network to cover the whole globe for well over a decade? When you look at how dead most realms are nowadays i'm pretty sure this could be done for WoW?
@Feilongy
6 жыл бұрын
wont be done cause they need them moneys from unfortunate ppl that need to transfer
@princetubby5698
6 жыл бұрын
almost all of eu speaks english or enough of it to have a proper conversation with you
@paladinlancer
5 жыл бұрын
"Give us something to where your character's power is not defined by just getting really lucky. It's not fun." I strongly agree. 33:03
@Neil3D
6 жыл бұрын
"I took that failed test with a smile cos I knew later that day I was going home to buy my Season 4 Mace". This is the story of my twenties. Except substitute failed tests for suck-ass days at work.
@TheThemuffinmanftw
6 жыл бұрын
Not wrong about loot. I still to this day remember all the items, even the shit ones I got and used. I started as a Ret Paladin in Wrath. My very first epic 2H was the Titansteel Destroyer that you could craft with blacksmithing. I was beyond ecstatic when I got this item, even though it was only a crafted and basically garbage. I then ended up running Utgarde Pinnacle on Heroic everyday until the Red Sword of Courage dropped off of King Ymiron. A tanking 1H Sword! Then from that point I main tanked all the rest of Wrath. My first big tank weapon drop was from Naxxramas 25, which was none other than Last Laugh 1H tank axe off of KT. I remember for a shield I had The Skull of Ruin from Naxxramas 10. I literally had this shield all the way until TOGC launched because I couldn't get anything else to drop. At the time I hated this shield because I felt like it was the bane of my existence. Now I wish I had it back. It's sad though. I main a SV Hunter currently. I have a 380 2H Polearm that I got out of my +10 cache. I have no clue what it's even called and didn't even feel great about getting it. I just RNG'd a weapon and hardly worked for it. Amazing how a mythic raid tier level weapon doesn't excite me in the slightest compared to how a Heroic Dungeon 1H did in Wrath.
@simytherogue
6 жыл бұрын
I relate to the final paragraph on a spiritual level. I'm a Beast Mastery Hunter with a 370 G'huun gun that I got out of the 4 Mythics Weekly Quest Cache a few weeks ago. I have no idea what the thing is called, and I was only slightly happy when I got it. My reaction was more like "Oh, nice." relief that I won the game-of-chance while some of my friends didn't. There was no genuine feeling of reward, something I haven't felt for any of my loot in BFA. My only pieces of gear that I even know the name of are my trinkets: Lustrous Golden Plumage (is that even right?), and Harlan's Loaded Dice. I want the feeling back of hunting for your gear and being rewarded for pursuing it.
@ThuGfunk
6 жыл бұрын
Similar story, I FARMED AND FARMED to upgrade my mace back in BC to be able to stun fuckers and own in arenas. You used to WORK for gear in the mmo and be rewarded for your efforts, and it wasn't shortlived. People respected the grind, now no one gives a fuck. The game has become profit and not enjoyment. Small dopamine hits rather than hard work and the payoff you get from the hard work.
@iGoogooX
6 жыл бұрын
This game doesnt feel like an MMORPG anymore...
@ThanosOfLight
6 жыл бұрын
That's actually super accurate
@cyberstonks
6 жыл бұрын
MMORPG - RPG = MMO -> BFA
@iGoogooX
6 жыл бұрын
@@cyberstonks not even mmo, sharding removed the "massive multi online", and when you actually have a lot of people the server lag and you cant fight properly.
@blitzfang4460
6 жыл бұрын
Indeed, it's more a sum of android mini games now than a MMORPG
@BeefLoverMan
6 жыл бұрын
They adopted a MOBA style philosophy.
@siriuca62136
Жыл бұрын
I still cant believe its been 4 years since this video
@Healthtymento
6 жыл бұрын
Battle for Azeroth feels like it's the last straw for the playerbase. Blizzard saw that people were playing for hours on end farming old mounts and decided to make that RNG element a very prevalent part of current content to extend play time. The time-gating is also terrible. Oh, you want Dark Iron Dwarves? Just do every single 7th Legion World Quest for a couple of weeks. Make sure you do every single one to improve your rep yield. Then level it up without level boosting over the next few weeks to get that sweet heritage armour. Everyone's already levelled up their allied races and got the armour? Slap some heritage armour on old races, that way we can extend play time for players that haven't levelled those races before. Azerite Armour is a complete mess. I might as well not be wearing a Heart of Azeroth because it has nothing to do with anything, it might as well just be in my bag and I wear a necklace, in fact I'd rather that. Artifact Weapons were a stroke of genius and they felt good because Artifact Power was a currency, not another arbitrary level number (even though the weapons did have that as well). Azerite would work as a currency, in that when you had enough you could buy another trait for your armour. There is a problem with there being no vendors, and there is a problem with reputations, and there is a problem with Island Expeditions. Have Island Expeditions give you 7th Legion/Honourbound rep, armour and weapons from rarer enemies (Azerite Armour if you're lucky, which I believe is the threshold at which RNG should end) and "Great Sea Coins" (or something). You can go to a vendor with Great Sea Coins to buy chunks of Azerite, reputation for all of your faction's reputations and, for a lot of coins, some of the best weapons in the game but these should be really expensive. This gives 7th Legion/ Honourbound a repeatable way of gaining reputation and also gives you insentive to do Island Expeditions that isn't just Azerite. The fact that Island Expeditions didn't yield any reputation was an enormous oversight, it feels like they were made for that. I think Warfronts are fine, everyone overhyped them because they thought Warfronts would kind of fix the game but we were disappointed, doesn't make them bad just makes them underwhelming. What I would say, however, is that there is a problem with activity in the rest of the world besides Kul'Tiras and Zandalar. Make killing enemies in the open world besides current content give you "Warlord of [insert name of continent] Points" (or something). Getting "Warlord of The Eastern Kingdoms Points" will let you buy rewards from vendors and get you "Slayer of the Eastern Kingdoms" title, and it would be the same for Kalimdor, Northrend, Pandaria, Outland, Draenor and the Broken Isles. And people would be doing this for years to come, people three expansions from now could say "I haven't done the Slayer of Northrend title yet I should try and go for that sounds like a grind but it'll be worth it for the title". Removing Tier Sets was a complete joke and G'huun should have dropped the Blood Tic mount. I liked the idea of a title for being one of the first to kill G'huun Mythic on your server, they should have had it for Mythic Dungeon final bosses as well, the more the merrier and it won't hurt anybody. Also I'm a huge advocate of trash and bosses in raids dropping tokens (maybe "Blood Tokens" or something in Uldir") that, if nothing drops for you, you can go away afterwards to a vendor and still get a weapon or some armour or something. World Quests should be for farming end-game Azerite Armour (up until heroic/mythic dungeons and raiding), Azerite and getting EXTRA rep, they shouldn't be the main way players get rep for fucks sake. Also there should be PvP World Quests, like kill enemies in this zone or in this area. And World Quests should give a currency that you can go to a vendor and buy weapons with. Is it even worth talking about professions? Just make them completely cosmetic. "I'm gonna go into Leatherworking so I can get the toy that puts a tent down" or "I'm gonna go into engineering so I can get that robot cat mount" or "I'm gonna go into Jewelcrafting so I can get that elemental companion" or "I'm gonna go into alchemy so I can craft that potion that makes me look like a leper gnome". Stop trying to make professions relevant content, it doesn't work. They should be cosmetic only. If you want to make it relevant make it an option for me to craft certain tokens that I can vendor for phat lootz. I'm so disappointed. Maybe my suggestions are dogshit, I get that, but at the end of the day I'd be happier with any of that than what we got. I'm just not happy with BfA whatsoever and valid criticism and discussion seems to be a thing of the past for Blizzard. It makes me so sad.
@KyosheeKosh
6 жыл бұрын
Professions should be a way to empower your character. I think its okay with alchemy, but other prifessions suck Like create a crafting gear so it will be bis pre-raid and after with reagents from raid! This couldnt be accomplished because of how whole system with keys and titanforging works - i didnt want to go for leatherworking to craft 380 gear because i knew i could get it in keys and guess what? Yeah, both craft slots are 385 mythic 10 titanforged. The system sucks
@Healthtymento
6 жыл бұрын
kyoshee Professions are a relic from an age long passed. They used to be incredibly helpful but they've trickled down into redundancy. The only things we really care about from professions any more are the toys, mounts and pets (besides some flasks from alchemy, you're absolutely right about alchemy, alchemy's great, we love alchemy, alchemy alchemy alchemy, it's a god-tier profession). I think to modernise professions all they can do is make the system revolve around cosmetics, but each to their own I suppose.
@KyosheeKosh
6 жыл бұрын
@@Healthtymento If Blizz wants to work with THIS system then yeah, you got the point. But i really like to see that "relics from an age long passed" shine bright again. The problem is system needs to be reworked completely...
@billshere3530
6 жыл бұрын
Wait what? Expeditions award 1500 rep each week
@Healthtymento
6 жыл бұрын
Bill's Here which is another example of time gating.
@gabrielalfaia8154
6 жыл бұрын
Everytime i think about going back it seems that the pile of shit has gotten bigger.
@rhysf.505
6 жыл бұрын
Sums up my views as well. Since WoD, I've known, even when I want to try it again, I cannot trust blizzard to not take a bunch of money and then leave me with nothing to do after a single month.
@GengisPkmn
6 жыл бұрын
No worries, it is just a bunch of useless crybabies that cannot do anything but state their worthless opinion because they are not having fun anymore. The game is just fine, you are welcome to join.
@breadcat6454
6 жыл бұрын
I haven’t played since TBC. Is it that bad??
@thomasschulz8477
6 жыл бұрын
@@breadcat6454 no it isnt
@riner9
5 жыл бұрын
Game has gone downhill since 2008.
@xQuinmasterx
6 жыл бұрын
8/8 m8
@Rillster121
6 жыл бұрын
Omg the real quin
@AdrasAdraki
6 жыл бұрын
Quin remembered his password Pog. Maybe now he will make some content.
@Ratboy-xd
6 жыл бұрын
Should've benched descry lad
@ohchinchindaisuke1927
6 жыл бұрын
Ayyyy the rat pack is here boys
@zilvis1140
6 жыл бұрын
Quin69 pls play diablo, wow is shit atm
@Minimeister317
5 жыл бұрын
I remember how I started playing wow when Zul'Gurub was added in vanilla WoW, and how I thought their gear and mounts looked amazing. Those were the good ol' days.
@alexcerien2032
6 жыл бұрын
Personaly, on the randomness of drops to keep the player playing, I felt that coming way earlier, with the introduction of daily/weekly quests. Instead of playing as much as you want to get your stuff as soon as you can. You were stopped in your progression by some arbitrary limit, so you don't play too much. That moment I had to log every day/week, instead of playing as I wanted. The game started to feel like the hamster wheel. I wasn't rewarded for playing the game, I was rewarded for attending the game.
@JBrandonMercer123
6 жыл бұрын
You're a fuckin' seer! Daily quests came out way back in Burning Crusade (iirc) and you saw titanforging/randomness on gear coming all the way back then?? You should be a professional gambler, you soothsayer!
@LoveLearnShareGrow
6 жыл бұрын
Chores.
@Edit-nk6nb
6 жыл бұрын
"I wasn't rewarded for playing the game, I was rewarded for attending the game." OOF, that's fucking strong.
@alexcerien2032
6 жыл бұрын
I'm talking about the mechanisms to keep the player to log in the game. How those mechanisms, in my opinion, were introduced with daily/weekly quests. Like the randomness described by Asmongold, daily/weekly quests, doesn't reward the player playing the game, but the player logging in every day/week.
@AtopTheHouse
6 жыл бұрын
In the end, weekly and daily quests aren't a bad thing. It's having supplemental content around those quests. You want to do them when you first login because it's rewarding, but you need more than that. My main gripe with Destiny 2 is that, even now, daily and weekly things are the only thing you login to. You need things to grind for.. things to make you want to keep coming back when you're at work or school. When you've finished all of your timed stuff, then what?
@KoyFoster
6 жыл бұрын
I came into this expansion thinking it was going to be PvP focused, but it turned out to be grind focused.
@hallajavel
6 жыл бұрын
Its not the old blizzard anymore, its Activision running the game
@n.l.4626
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Activision acquired Blizzard 10 years ago, and with WotLK (despite being a popular expansion) the problems already started to show, when WotLK was rushed to some degree (no Azjol Nerub expansion, no Gundrak raid, all raids except Ulduar and ICC had either an extremely lackluster design or had been recycled outright).
@wallhackergotdammit
6 жыл бұрын
Before I used to think that was load of bullshit. But now I'm not so sure anymore. With all these dopamine-filled RNG systems it wouldn't surprise me that Activision has taken over completely.
@CardiacKatz
6 жыл бұрын
This is too true, Activision butchered your friend Blizzard and are wearing there face selling there products. Just feeding off our Nostalgia.
@senjusan6359
6 жыл бұрын
Hey guys pss.. Do you want to know how to act upon such behavior ? That is the secret that is kept in the Buddist temple somewhere in Tibet, and I saw it when I was high af from eating too much Avocado... but fuck the backstory, I will tell you the secret on how to save WoW from falling into the pit, ok, hear me out because I will not repeat myself as Avocado slowly loads back into my psyche: JUST DONT PLAY THE GAME AND QUIT SUBSCRIPTION. Ya, exactly, crazy idea right ? How you want to to wake up lunatic ? By looking at him and asking what is going on ? OR BY SLAPPING HIS FACE with an open palm? Look, that is the next crazy Idea that I saw in dream (this time It was Mango instead of Avacado, you know Mango got much better CEV's than Avacdo). IF YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT THE GAME, AND YOU CONTINUOUSLY ARE PAYING FOR IT, YOU CAN CONGRATULATE YOURSELF because you are the very reason why this game stopped being fun anymore. And ya boi Asmon is telling 100% truth, and ya all know it, and ya all are ignored since Warlords of Dreanor, and ya all will be still ignored, because players never seem to understand how much they can change by stopping supporting their banks account. Big companies doesn't look at forums, that are looking at Bank account balance, and if they see increase or at least resonable income, than they think that people seem to like being ignored, and thus why they will keep doin that. Look at Path of Exile, and how developers are active among community, and how they talk with the community on streams, and how they care about our feedback, and even recently, they bring to life a Path of Exile community memes to existence. Its pretty good to be playing this game you know, I feel, like a developer is actually devoted into his piece of code. Ya, I recommend you to check that out, but be careful, you may be overwhelmed by the fact of how active people are here on global chat, and how ONLINE you can feel by playing this game, because for me, World of Warcraft stopped being Online game, because nobody is talking on chat, nobody is goofing around, nobody is taking care of ANYTHING in this game anymore. It is just an single player game with possibility to group up with people, that among this sick WoW community is considered as "PUG" or whatever thats mean, and that is only because It is someone from the group finder. Look at your game, and what it becomes. Look at it and ask yourself what you are actually doing for the love of God? You are playing online game only to mostly communicate with 10-20 people from your guild, and rest of the people treat as NPCs ? Because that how this game feels like, beside maybe on RP servers, there you can feel like being closed with group of very talkactive people with the bi polar syndrome and weird affection over one Tavern in the forest. WoW is dead, community there is dead, and the developers doesn't care about the game, they care about the $$$. Now, log back in to WoW, and play your game that has no reason, and complain about how it slowly decay, as It will never be good again.
@fredwin
6 жыл бұрын
100% True, but cracks had already started to show ahead of TBC. TBC set the foundation to how following expansions would work, ruining the powerful core gameplay of vanilla. Was pretty obvious to me when I finally got my hands on Starcraft 2: Wings of Liberty that I was playing an Activision product.
@Plamler
5 жыл бұрын
1 MILLION VIEWS 18 HOUR STREAM BETA BOIS
@GrumbleGombol
5 жыл бұрын
1 Million people who like shit content. I'm sad I contributed to this number.
@PretentiousLatinName
5 жыл бұрын
BEETA!
@taviduca8300
5 жыл бұрын
@@GrumbleGombol Ky and you know what's next. S
@GrumbleGombol
5 жыл бұрын
@@taviduca8300 Nah, I'm good thanks.
@TheAwesomeness1123
5 жыл бұрын
And we’re still waiting
@913_Niyala
6 жыл бұрын
It all started with Activision. Just saying.
@Bepples
6 жыл бұрын
This is easy to say when the vast majority of WoW's lifespan is in a post-Activision merger environment. The merge happened in mid-2007. Everything from Zul'Aman onwards was made with Activision having merged with Blizzard. Sunwell Plateau, Ulduar, ICC, etc. Bad patches, great patches, and everything in-between. I think it's ridiculously naive to blame a bad expansion in 2014. or 2018 on a company decision made in... 2007. A decision that didn't even give Activision any authority over Blizzard's game development (hence MERGE not ACQUIRE). People need to face the fact that it's really Blizzard themselves that are fucking up; not anyone else's fault.
@Spinexus
6 жыл бұрын
Jep, wrath had the first store mount exactly 1,5 years after Blizz got bought out! Yes Blizz got bought!! The only reason the name is ActivisionBlizzard is for the reputation and nothing else. If this was Activition buying any other studio there wouldn´t have been a name change!
@stewrmo
6 жыл бұрын
Yuuuuuuuuuup. And all this RNG is just basic lootboxes. How lucky can you get. It's bullshit.
@slimshadythe111
6 жыл бұрын
That's mr.Activision Blizzard for you
@georgeblair2486
6 жыл бұрын
@John Doe Thank you. Can't believe people buy that line of horse crap
@mvpmikey
6 жыл бұрын
MMO right now is to rush max level, grind gear, repeat next expansion. There is no sense of adventure and escapism which is what every game is all about. The real charm of vanilla is being able to explore the unknown, discovering stuff of legends and myths. Following the lore, hoping to discover something no one has ever seen before. People FEEL the value of their achievements though discovery, like legendary gear and new spells. This is the reason MMO is dying. Everything right now has no value. All you need to do is repeat the same exact thing till you get what you want. You get everything through repetition. The difference of the best from the not, is how much grind they do.
@AflipKID91
6 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the wonders of looking at the landscape while taking a simple stroll through the maps and the excitement we had during those hours as a noob before we got those things called mounts ^^ loved those days
@mvpmikey
6 жыл бұрын
@@AflipKID91 The world in every MMO are huge but it's not possible to appreciate it anymore, nor will we feel the sense of adventure.The world is NOT necessary anymore, and we are focused on reaching max level to do max level raid. I don't mind mounts as long as the sense of adventure exist. Which it does not anymore, cause mounts are there so we can level faster and reach max level to do max level stuff. Story/Lore itself is NOT necessary cause our sense of accomplishment is having BiS Gear, not really the excitement of beating evil and saving the world. We do NOT feel accomplished by bringing peace back to the world, but rather by getting the best Items through repetitions. Remember when the 1st legendary dropped? Remember when the 1st raid was beaten? it become a world wide news that made everyone feels all sorts of emotions. How do you feel getting legendaries now? or artifacts which is meant to be the best lorewise? None. Zero feelings, Zero sense of accomplishment cause every player will get it in a month.
@TheXxmadmanxxkkk
6 жыл бұрын
You know you can do all that in retail Wow, nobody's forcing you to play any way. Do you really have to be forced to have fun in order to have fun?
@jeyserreacts3444
5 жыл бұрын
In vanilla we would spend every non raid day grinding for food. We grinded during every era of WOW if you don't think so you're kidding yourself
@jeyserreacts3444
5 жыл бұрын
@@AflipKID91 you can just not use a mount...
@bradwebb6927
6 жыл бұрын
The developers must look back on the first 6 years of the game and view it as an abject failure. They’ve utterly abandoned every principle that made the game great and grew the user base. Eventually the nostalgia and addiction wells will run dry and they’ll have no idea why the game failed.
@Spinexus
6 жыл бұрын
For me it feels like they are trying to reinvent a game that wasn´t broken to begin with. Classic, BC, wrath were fine games there is no reason to change the direction at all. Yes the game industry has changed but the game wasn´t great back then because people were more tryhard! It was because the game was just fucking amazing.
@Bizzozeron
6 жыл бұрын
they grab a lot of casuals with new features and pump sub numbers artificially trying to invite new players in with easy stuff, but ultimately they don't stick around. The original few years of WoW grew a hardcore playerbase with people slowly filtering in. It'd be better to focus on that group of people that will stick around.
@Spinexus
6 жыл бұрын
@maccajoe Oh, we will see. I personally think the philosophy behind the game design was way better back in 2004-2008! The market around a game doesn´t mean shit btw. The quality of the individual title is the important thing. Classic was/is a masterpiece! I have no idea how anyone can deny that. It nearly solely revitalized the PC sales in an era that was dominated by console games and it revolutionize the MMO genre.
@bradwebb6927
6 жыл бұрын
Natty R the problem is more that Live is going to directly compete against D4 much more than classic. How Blizzard doesn’t understand their own markets and how they overlap is mind boggling.
@GratefulGuido
3 жыл бұрын
Complains about his channel not popping up on the search bar when he hasn’t posted in over 2 years LMAO
@space.pirate481
3 жыл бұрын
@@ChawkoSnap he doesnt post there,his editors
@GamersBar
6 жыл бұрын
Wow died when i stopped being able to tell how good a character was just by the gear it is wearing, e.g. not the skill but the performance based on how much effort they were willing to put in
@merebrillante
6 жыл бұрын
Blizzard reminds me of Lucille Bluth - “If that’s a veiled criticism of me, I won’t hear it, and I won’t respond to it.”
@rodlarry6020
6 жыл бұрын
Props for the Arrested Development reference!
@lostmarimo
6 жыл бұрын
first expansion where i just straight up quit the game a month in.
@leroyjenkins1838
6 жыл бұрын
HAHA beat ya, I quit less than a week in.
@hiddenkoalarage
6 жыл бұрын
Oh yea, well I didn't even play it!
@ferikhoros8802
6 жыл бұрын
I didnt even buy it
@wasdf999
6 жыл бұрын
Same my dude
@sujezz
6 жыл бұрын
Same, I even had more fun with wod. I did +10 the week it was possible and kept doing +10 and never got the loot I was there for, meanwhile I was getting links of titanforged socketed weapons/trinkets better than base +10 drops from m0. I don't want to play lottery game, I want hard earned epic phat loot that took weeks or even months to achieve so I can wave my big epen in town. I miss meaningful stats, bis lists etc. It's fine if your mastery sucks you're not supposed to wear everything just because it has higher ilvl or gearing isn't meaningful.
@naomi-nada
6 жыл бұрын
As a game designer, it infuriates me when people make arguments like: "This is just what happens with games like these..." It's flat-out wrong and intellectually lazy. The reason the game is the way it is is that someone designed it to be that way. Of course, players can have their own narrative and improvise off the system, but the system will ultimately dictate all possible experiences that occur within it. The true crime is that Blizzard has made over ten billion dollars in revenue from WoW alone and somehow manages to fuck things up still. $10,000,000,000 for just ONE of their games. They have the money to make and do whatever the hell they want. Why not be consistent? Why fuck things up? Look at what Runescape has done by streamlining player feedback into the games development process. Basically, nothing new gets made or changed in that game without solid feedback from the people actually playing it. Blizzard could easily design a system like this, and even make it mountains better with their experience and unending resources. It's just a real shame and total waste. Why would you want these things rattling around in your companies legacy when you can afford to always be the best.
@nepenthesspectabilis1907
5 жыл бұрын
As someone who quit wow after Cata and is now playing Osrs... The voting system is OS really gives the players the feeling its "our" game, and honestly being respected for your opinion creates a sense of loyalty to the game and the developers. Wow could learn a thing or two from the small company Jagex
@naomi-nada
5 жыл бұрын
@@nepenthesspectabilis1907 Honestly, they really could. Blizzard has a "we know what's best." problem, which coupled with the Activision takeover gives you a recipe for bad company culture and evolution.
@nepenthesspectabilis1907
5 жыл бұрын
@@naomi-nada "You think you do, but you don't" I went to a private sever the next day. kzitem.info/news/bejne/kY2o3WeZa4CbmHo
@lao_gan_ma_enjoyer
5 жыл бұрын
YES I totally agree with you! This is not about “oh no one plays MMO’s these days. The fuck??? Look at Runescape. That game has been alive for more than a decade, it’s been popular and respected for almost 17 years. Runescape has never truly fallen out of favour; even with RS3. Blizzard should take a leaf (or many, preferably) out of Jagex’s book. Corporatism fucking sucks and should never never be mixed in with art. Profit kills creativity and WoW is a prime example of that. I played back in BC. I’ve played on and off for ages and each time I come back i genuinely become depressed at how everything is just LFR grind til max level then more meaningless grind for RNG. There is no sense of fulfilment and achievement anymore. “Hardcore” neckbeard sort of players was what truly made the game great. Blizzard should stop catering to casual noobs that don’t even care for the game or it’s mechanics.
@DoPe321
5 жыл бұрын
it's dem shareholders bro. The gaming industry is becoming more and more like every other industry, beholden to greedy shareholders who don't care a jot for customer satisfaction. Profit is king.
@hankstorm3135
6 жыл бұрын
Played heavily since TBC with a few small breaks in between. But this BFA, after I hit 120, I started doing some dungeons, some wq, then one week later I'm on a flightpath in between wqs, realise, not this shit again, alt+f4'd and never came back. You are absolutely right developers are out of touch, so many small things that make the whole annoying...
@IgorkubMASTER
6 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you realize that during daily quests in TBC?
@Jyeoi
6 жыл бұрын
Hahaha yea Dailys sucked asssss
@breadcat6454
6 жыл бұрын
I last played during TBC many years ago. I miss playing a lot, the pvp was epic. I am honestly tempted to play the newest expansion very casually. How do things compare to back then?
@Mystx24
6 жыл бұрын
@@breadcat6454 dont do it i quit mid WOTLK came back to BFA release, hit 120 tried pvp 10min ques no thx and the lvling scaling bs ruins pvp horrifically. Just a warning. Game has been butchered
@Hellonion
6 жыл бұрын
5:30 Thats some Megamind, big if true, 200 IQ thinking right there.
@TheDanzielDK
6 жыл бұрын
Some real *BIG THINK*
@deprecatedaccount9857
6 жыл бұрын
This happens with any creative industry. The talent and soul is sucked out by sales and marketing types and high-brown 'educated' developers that focus more on pushing boundaries and reinventing the wheel than providing players with what they want. EVE Online has an elected CSM that acts as a medium between the developers and the community. Maybe WoW would benefit from something like this.
@Djwhiskers
6 жыл бұрын
We need a Tribune of the plebs
@magshype
6 жыл бұрын
eve online got bought out by same people who make blackdesertonline, rip eve online.
@NerdishGeekish
6 жыл бұрын
Truth be told, the Blizzard that made warcraft 3, Vanilla WoW and WotLK has veen ship of theseus'd into oblivion. Few if any of the original developers still work on it today, and from those that do even fewer have any sway in the direction the game follows...
@dpmaspam
6 жыл бұрын
high-brown HAHAHAHA
@Microphunktv-jb3kj
6 жыл бұрын
And that's why Eve is the best mmorpg ever created, eventho i just dont have time to play it and also my friends don't play it so.. Eve ain't that fun without friends. I'm not biased either, ive played both mmorpgs... wow vanilla,bc,wotlk eve - ~2008-2013 difference between eve and wow... Eve constantly and linearly grow and get better with every single update , wow is like a mentally unstable wife I think there hasn't been a single patch/expansion in Eve wich wasn't wanted by the playerbase... (ok there's one.. captains headquarters, noone actually cared or wanted it... :D )
@Overclockthis
5 жыл бұрын
I'm going to be honest. I have purchased BFA, re-made my troll hunter which I was really looking forward to. I logged on, was introduced to this tutorial on how to play survival in baby steps, logged off. I waited for a couple of weeks to keep an eye on the state of the game and uhh. Let's just say I have about 3-5 minutes in BFA, have cancelled my subscription and haven't looked back. This is the only time in Blizzard history which I have not attempted one of their games... I will be re-subbing for classic WoW 100% though.. lol
@TAGGdinc
Жыл бұрын
A wow expansion is nowhere near a complete different game so don’t worry if you play everything else you can still say you played all of blizzards games
@whatdolhavetodo
6 жыл бұрын
The thing that struck me the most from one of the recent AMA's by Ion is that he said they don't want to put resources into fixing broken classes/specs, but rather put that manpower into developing more content and balancing the Azerite system because millions more people would benefit from that dev time. Really Ion, you're going to put most resources into a system that will be gone come next expansion instead of making sure every spec is playable and fun up to a certain standard? PS: I love you Asmon even though you're bald and McConnel you're okay too even though you are morbidly obese.
@whatdolhavetodo
6 жыл бұрын
That's true, I was looking at it from a Legion artifact view. They deleted that stuff as well only to replace it with Azerite which apparenlly will take them another whole xpac to "balance" before introducing a new system that they'll fuck up again for sure.
@PaulaJBean
6 жыл бұрын
He doesn't look bald to me.
@andreedstrom2853
6 жыл бұрын
There is no Blizzard, only Activision.
@Beatles__
6 жыл бұрын
André Edström remember no fun
@NanoNaps
6 жыл бұрын
Remember when Blizzard said Destiny 2 will be an exception on the BNET launcher? Now CoD is there and it seems future Activision titles will also go there. It makes sense on a business stand point for Activision, but it shows that this was an Activision decision and Blizzard has no say anymore.
@Surtur99
6 жыл бұрын
Yay...A CoD every year on Battlenet...Shit games, just like Destiny.
@djm687
6 жыл бұрын
Battlenet will be the new steam
@berks8776
6 жыл бұрын
Here's the issue. If I quit now, and then play again in 6 months, I'll be caught up to where active players are within a week. Oh that's fun... Classic is gonna be huge, I can't wait. I'd rather spend months trying to get to 60 having to eat every pull dying over and over than pull a lever for gear some more.
@craigmcguire6573
6 жыл бұрын
Yes this is true. In Legion i quit during EN and came back for Antorus and was 960 due to catch up mechanics in two weeks while all these other people at 960 were grinding their fingers to the bone prior to that.
@blyjd91
6 жыл бұрын
I fear for the people that aren't prepared for classic though. Personally I played during vanilla so I know what to expect.
@DrunkenSailors1
6 жыл бұрын
Lineage 2 released a *Classic* Version 2 weeks ago after 14 years as well.While the retail official server had hardly 5000 people total the classic server got 30.000 people back in the game from pure hype.So yeh judging from that i know that when Wow hits classic,it will draw SO MANY people, it may even make retail people angry
@TheWormholeGuy
6 жыл бұрын
I felt this on the other end. While I was being active every patch and grinded so much for the end game gear, some dudes in the guild came back after months of being offline and had almost gained -20 my ilvl within a week or 2 of playing on evenings :/ It doesnt feel worth it to be elitist and to grind since some random noob you carry in a mythic+ might get a friggin titanforged item thats better than yours, teh carrier. It's so bad that it makes me laugh, ridiculous system.
@thatsneakyneenja2595
6 жыл бұрын
Rangomal Vloudas Why would it make retail players angry? The only situation I can see it making them angry is if the more fanatical fanboy's see just how wrong the dev's are and that wont even matter because they will just go back to saying blizzard is perfect despite everything proving them wrong.
@MrAndrewrock
5 жыл бұрын
so they basically dumbed down everything to level new players with veterans?
@ZeranZeran
5 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@lolkthnxbai
6 жыл бұрын
Main a shaman since BC, made it to 118 before I realized that I just paid for an incomplete beta of an experience and canceled my account, I'm not paying 15 a month to wait for them to fix my class. it's a company issue with blizzard, the same complaints about blizzard you're voicing here is the same that the OW community is voicing.
@GreyShirtGuy
6 жыл бұрын
I remember a friend of mine maining a shaman back in WOTLK stopped playing back then after they borked Enhancement. I don't remember the specific details though.
@lawlestest
6 жыл бұрын
but suicidewatch is absolute garbage where premades are being pandered to to shit on solo players. Always has been.
@yaqwsxcderfv235
6 жыл бұрын
I quit playing because they dumbed down warriors so much
@rottenfist220
6 жыл бұрын
At vanilla times WoW was a passion for devs now it's just business.
@skilladunge
6 жыл бұрын
Well put, son! Well put!
@chrisseaton9396
6 жыл бұрын
Most businesses sadly
@jamesmcardle3289
6 жыл бұрын
did you play vanilla by any chance?
@rottenfist220
6 жыл бұрын
@@jamesmcardle3289 back in the day yes. also im playing now on a private server called lights hope
@jamesmcardle3289
6 жыл бұрын
i was kinda making a joke about people telling you they played vanilla but thats good to know. Is it fairly bug-free?
It does for a second. It's an instant gradification and not the long term feeling of fulfillment. He said that in the video did you even watch it?
@SeruraRenge11
6 жыл бұрын
It's why he always is more depressed after getting laid
@MrAlxsr
6 жыл бұрын
The quote of the year!
@nawtmyrealnamelol
6 жыл бұрын
huge quote, more true words have never been spoken
@aphestl3915
6 жыл бұрын
BLAME BLI$$ARD, they died in 2008 when Activision acquired them.
@p51mustang24
6 жыл бұрын
That was around the point that a lot of the Blizzard founders left. Why stay after you've sold you're company for ...probably billions. I don't blame them though.
@riner9
5 жыл бұрын
That's when I quit.
@roccatsenseful
5 жыл бұрын
Nah Wotlk, MoP and Legion where good expansions.
@NationOfMasturbation
5 жыл бұрын
@@roccatsenseful Legion..? No. People find it good because it came after the worst-ever (WoD)
@roccatsenseful
5 жыл бұрын
@@NationOfMasturbation Well thats true but Legion overall was a good exp imo and many others, besides all the lottery with rng like titanforging, artifact traits, legendarys etc it was a solid exp.
@giovanniivan
6 жыл бұрын
My main problem is game is flagged as mmorpg and after 12 years playing it feals more and more like mmoarcade ... they removed proper skills after wotlk .. they removed hit skills and defense and weapon skills .... they removed resistance ... spell ranks ... like from expansion to expansion they just removing and removing staff what makes any good rpg actually rpg + all the problems you mention ... its sad that in 2018 i often log to kronos vanilla server and actually have more fun then in proper wow
@treemover7259
6 жыл бұрын
the end of the true RPG aspect was when dodge, parry and spirit where all removed as actualy optainable stats infasvour of Versastiliy, reforging along qwith these stats gave players a choice in how they play
@Magerquark
6 жыл бұрын
SO TRUE! Old WoW had a lot of rpg elements to it. There is just something about leveling your weapon skills even bare hand skills
@thevito1091
6 жыл бұрын
It’s a Diablo game now. Not a mmorpg
@FlexxMachine
6 жыл бұрын
Kronos is dead, roll on Northdale if you are just starting out.
@thevito1091
6 жыл бұрын
Jimmy you mean they took out the rpg not the mmo.. destiny is a mmo.
@Korryism
6 жыл бұрын
Battle for Azeroth: the battle between the devs and community for the survival of our world
@damnsurfer522
6 жыл бұрын
You can come in the last month of a given expansion and achieve and complete everything that people spent two years doing and I hate that.
@flaminggalaxy-osubindingof1283
6 жыл бұрын
Damn Surfer I mean, to a certain extent that Is unavoidable.
@fredrick1176
6 жыл бұрын
Flaming Galaxy - Osu, Binding of Isaac & More! In classic, bc, wotlk, cata it wasn’t. Mist started the whole ‘no child left behind’ mentality. Mist was fun don’t get me wrong I loved it, but the system they introduced hurt wow big time.
@damnsurfer522
6 жыл бұрын
@@flaminggalaxy-osubindingof1283 in the current state of the game, but that's why I'm looking forward to classic.
@flaminggalaxy-osubindingof1283
6 жыл бұрын
@@fredrick1176 Im not sure if we are talking about the same thing. I'm referring to what Damn Surfer said. In games like destiny, they don't give you a catch up mechanism if you didn't play the expansion. With the way they have it now, I was able to play legion in the last month and I was able to catch up enough to people that I wasn't super far behind for BFA. If they didn't have this system, I would be forced to play legion by myself slowly until I was high enough to finally play BFA.
@killswitchfate
5 жыл бұрын
Wrath of the Lich King pre-LFG/LFR- RIP never forget
@jagerism6361
4 жыл бұрын
It was never the same after that.
@norezenable
6 жыл бұрын
Gonna toss in my 2 cents here even though its probably never going to be read. The other problem with RNG and basically everyone having the same gear is that there is no reason not to quit/take a break. If you stop playing right this second, you can come back in 2 months or whatever and catch right back up with everyone who has been playing the whole time. After a week or even a few days back you can get your ilevel back to about where 70-80% of people are, then after another week or so (RNG willing) can get it back up to where 90-95% of people's ilevel is at. And the flip side of that coin is that the only reward you can possibly get for keeping playing, is a few more titan/warforged items which have stats that have been substantially nerfed for BFA. Is it really worth playing for months doing the same thing over and over to get a tiny, tiny benefit? There are rapidly diminishing returns for investing more time in the game. When I played during Burning Crusade and WOTLK, I capped every currency, did every raid lockout. After a little while, there was no way a new player could just walk in to a raid and heal as much as me because I had been rewarded for my dedication. That is no longer the case. People can just spam world quests and warfront and get gear just as good as the vast majority of players. And now I have quit until I feel like playing again since there is no incentive or reward for playing over a long period of time anymore.
@Xorgye
6 жыл бұрын
I think your answer is the answer to why blizzard is doing all this. They want to promote the casual play style. Much more money is to be made there. I feel sorry for the top x% playerbase, but you are not the target players for the devs (anymore).
@Sevier7777
6 жыл бұрын
@@Xorgye The problem with blizz catering to casuals is that they are casual. If blizz releases a product that sucks they will without a doubt leave in droves. Blizzard/Activision has catered to them because they want to make more money. If they can get more money from casuals through microtransactions, and have less subs then they are ok with that obviously. The problem is that it's like walking on a tightrope for them. If they continue to release terrible content. They will have the long time player leave, and the casuals which will severely hurt wow. Which I believe from everything I have seen recently is happening right now. They are trying to fix things, but it's like they are putting a bandaid on a cut off limb.
@Price245
6 жыл бұрын
I read your post idiot
@ericblack2252
6 жыл бұрын
John people like asmongold are horrible with the gutter-speak they use. WoW is not a Skinner box or gambling.. bosses have always been “like” a slot machine.. this whole argument is stupid
@Xorgye
6 жыл бұрын
@@elizabethlea27 I admit the game is a juggle to play. You have to carefully pick the tings to do, because if you follow the main road you get frustrated very quickly. I love doing old content, achievements, pet battles... and in between I run the main content. But for a max of 2 hours because after that it gets repetitive and that isn't worth my time.
@xvx4848
6 жыл бұрын
If the Devs only care about analytics then the ONLY thing they will care about is when they start seeing a massive decline in $$$. Unfortunately the only way to save this game is to send it to the brink of death and stop playing for awhile.
@myrmidongoomba1667
6 жыл бұрын
i see a few comments in here saying they unsubbed, i quit playing years ago but i really dont think quitting WoW is an option for a lot of people. Asmon said it to Mconnel i saw when mconnel said he was gonna quit Asmon said "What are you gonna do" with a cheesey smile on his face because he knows the answer is literally nothing compared to playing a game like WoW where you can make the time fly by and it just keeps the days rollin. i really hope that the people DO come together and vote with their wallets but it'd have to be a very large number of people to shift the devs minds at this point. i remember dreaming of WoW going free to play back in cata, and i still think WoW shouldve gone buy to play a long time ago. i havent quit MMOs, i play runescape and we actually have Dev blogs weekly, a polling system so the community can vote on large amounts of updates. nothing goes live without the communities consent.
@C4davr
6 жыл бұрын
It had to come to this. It was predictable. All the changes that they made over time, one expansion after another, bit by bit, removing the core systems that made this an MMORPG, an epic and massive multiplayer RPG, into a hollow shell of a game, that's no more than a pointless, endless RNG grind, without any sort of fulfillment. It's sad though to see the dev team deflecting all these issues, comparable to a bunch of lawyers in court, pretending there's nothing wrong and all is well. It's us who don't know, who don't understand. I completely lost faith in this game and this dev team, all I can think of right now and here I seriously hope the ones responsible don't screw up, is with classic. Classic will come, hopefully soon, and we will finally have a proper MMORPG to play.
@DisemboweII
6 жыл бұрын
Assuming they focus on making Classic feel as _classic_ as possible, yes. It will be incredible. Sadly I have the feeling it'll fail because it'll be heavily monetised, or just fucked up for no reason.
@C4davr
6 жыл бұрын
I disagree. If there's fulfillment, it's not pointless. This is a game after all, a piece of entertainment, so when you get into it, you expect to have some fun, a good time. Now that's all subjective but from what I see, reading opinions on the Internet, talking with friends who played back them, the general consensus is that there was fulfillment in vanilla. Mostly because the game was flat out hard and you had clear objectives, objectives that once completed would give you joy and fulfillment. Getting your first mount (after saving up all your gold because it was scarce); reaching max lvl; getting that badass piece of armor you saw some dude wearing while you were roaming around the world. Among many other small things. The freaking feeling of progression, feeling stronger as you level up. The ability to put talents wherever you want. Like, how can you have an RPG in which there's no sense of progression, of customization. Everyone looks the same, everyone is the same. This is no longer an MMORPG, it's an MMOG. Bloody Spider-Man on PS4 has talent trees deeper than WoW's and here we are, 14 years after launch with those dumbed down talents that might as well not be there at all. It's pathetic. I'm not saying though vanilla wasn't a grind, or frustrating, because it was, of course it was. What I am saying is that, that grind made sense because you had an objective, a clear objective ahead of you, that was hard, but reachable and the world was freaking relentless on you. It's not like now, a walk in the park. The epic aspect of WoW was stripped away and that's a shame. Sure MMORPG's are time consuming, but it's always up to the player to manage the time spent online. And even though I'm very much looking forward to classic, I'm not the same person I was 13 or 14 years ago. Life changed and I will adapt the game to my life and not the other way around. All I ask is for them to deliver the game as it was, at its core, with flaws no doubt, but with quality.
@spooglet3279
5 жыл бұрын
8.2 is not luring me in. I only trust the Classic team now, and that’s an uneasy trust.
@GerryReid
6 жыл бұрын
It's gotten this bad because the game designers are not the same people, they're hacks, let it die
@Underrated54
6 жыл бұрын
This sadly applies to ALL mmos currently. They are either p2w in some sense or based purely on rng with the devs thinking they are rockstars. MMOs really have become almost entirely anti consumer but what can we do about it when devs don't even play their own games anymore
@OSRS_Emperor
6 жыл бұрын
Not ALL mmos - take a look at OSRS (or RS3 if you must have decent graphics)
@MilliLonn
6 жыл бұрын
Indeed not ALL just look at EsO and FFXIV
@cloudmagus
6 жыл бұрын
FF14 is lambasted for having stale gear prog (as is typical for vertical mmos), but at least it's reliable and you can buy your gear eventually. Also raids actually matter.
@_Ikelos
6 жыл бұрын
FFXIV lacks in gearing up variety and PVP, but the fights themselves are absolutely amazing. And the gearing is more than just reliable, you get tokens from raiding that you can spend to buy gear for any class (as you can level all classes on 1 character) so even if you BiS your Tank set you can go in and come out with gear for your Healer set. If you're PVE/Raiding minded it is 10/10 the whole way through.
@EndOfExistence1337
6 жыл бұрын
@@_Ikelos Well then, time to give it a try since WoW is just not fun anymore.
@obzzcure
6 жыл бұрын
I miss the Justice badge system, it did feel like you had to work for some gear.
@kabrozkabroz
6 жыл бұрын
DAE miss spending their reddit karma on gear!? I 100% do not miss the justice badge system. Or the Honor point spending system.
@gmee123
6 жыл бұрын
I strongly disagree. I loved feeling like I've worked toward something and can spend my rewards and efforts on what I WANT!
@Orphan_of_Kos_or_some_say_Kosm
6 жыл бұрын
The badge/emblem system wasn't too bad, but I didn't like how it made earlier raids in an expansion more and more irrelevant over time. Also there was literally absolutely nothing wrong with the honor point system.
@McLean757
5 жыл бұрын
More people have watched this video than play BfA
@idklol4197
6 жыл бұрын
I haven't played this game seriously since 2009 but I watched this video and appreciate your passion
@someone-ji2zb
6 жыл бұрын
You quit at a very good time actually xD
@Lambda.Function
6 жыл бұрын
"Whoever thought of that should be fired." We know who thought of it. Ion Hazzikostas. He's justified it and been pushing for personal loot for many expansions now. It's what his guild does, and clearly if it's good enough for them, they might as well force everyone else into it. Whatever justifications, it's a terrible idea. Nothing feels worse than a +5 ilvl warforge item dropping for an item you already have with a socket and you can't fucking trade it to the guy for whom it's a BiS and 20 ilvl upgrade, so you just go to a vendor and collect your 40 gold. That's gimping our groups, slowing down gearing progression, all with the goal of making the game even more about "just stay subbed and keep killing things, you'll eventually get what you want!" I'd love for Ion Hazzikostas to eat his own shit-mixed dog food. Ion, your salary is now $20,000, you have a random chance of making more each month. If you aren't happy earning things through RNG, stop forcing that shit on us, you dickbag. When the fuck did you get so disconnected and become such a corporate jackass who just looks at engagement numbers? Don't you remember when you had those forums, back when you actually gave a shit about the game?
@Pollymorff
6 жыл бұрын
Blizzard should RNG Ion's salary
@patrikpass2962
6 жыл бұрын
cough activision
@BatrickPateman430
6 жыл бұрын
6:30 "im recording this so make sure u guys play good" LUL
@RandomGuy-op2lc
6 жыл бұрын
dies 1min later into the video LUL
@Swedish_Remixer
6 жыл бұрын
3 times
@Walfuz
6 жыл бұрын
RandomGuy the orbs res you so it doesn’t matter
@azureth9544
5 жыл бұрын
I remember being druid tank in TBC. It was the time that feral druids were starting to be taken more seriously. The raidleaders didn't quite understand why I should be given prio to staves and polearms over hunters, but they were learning. We were doing Tempest Keep and killing the Void Reaver week after week, but not a single token my class. Mind you there were three classes clumped up to the token, but still no single drop for like 4 or 5 weeks. I still had a PvP shoulder because they were the best before that, and then came WotLK. I never did get those shoulders. I put the effort and became invested. Even though I didn't get them, it's still a good memory. Now I dinged 120 and about three weeks later I'm above 370 average iLevel. Barely touched the M raiding scene. I've been lucky, there were nice "yeaahh" moments but at the same time it has left me bit hollow. What is there to strive towards anymore? Classic can't come soon enough. I'm not sure that I'll love it, but I'm sure as hell going to give it a try.
@veritasabsoluta4285
2 жыл бұрын
How was Classic? :D
@pyloniac
6 жыл бұрын
It made me sad as fuck to see the game I love and that I grew up with break down. I met my best reallife friends literally fuckin bloodbrothers over a discussion about WoW in a beverage store over 15 years ago. Let me tell you something. Nobody is talking about WoW in beverage stores anymore. (EDIT: okay guys I didnt really cry but it made me feel fuckin sad I wanted to emphasize it calm down it was very late xD) (EDIT2: I later met another reallife friend during Darkshore leveling, which is impossible now thanks to crossrealms.)
@George-lt9mj
6 жыл бұрын
Cringy as fuck. The only thing worse then bfa is knowing that you literally cried because of bfa.
@George-lt9mj
6 жыл бұрын
He cried because of the deterioration of the game and what the game meant to him growing up, as it helped introduce him to what are now his best friends. Just because he gave us a backstory and it holds sentimental value for him doesn't change the fact he fucking cried over a video game. I hope you're just baiting me right now, because you sound pretty stupid. On a side note, imagine naming yourself tfw suicidal with that edgelord picture. Imagine being that attention seeking in youtube comments. Yikes.
@10runescape
6 жыл бұрын
George its actually you that sounds like stupid ass hole
@PrussianZwei
6 жыл бұрын
Been playing wow since it came out and was amazed about how big it was and everything you did was adventure. Back than Blizzard treated this game like it was their own child in my opinion it seems after Cataclysm they slowly distanced themselves away till not even them can recognize it. Horrible to see something you love crash an burn but still to early to tell with us only about to be in 8.1 and assuming it goes to 8.4. Pray that the game will find some salvation and bring back the flame of love the players had for this game.
@Consleazy
6 жыл бұрын
@Edwin Cardenas stop drinking lead, it's bad for you
@NiGhTScOrPiOX
6 жыл бұрын
Dude developers don't care anymore, they made the money, they don't play the game, they don't raid / pvp, they just collect the checks and go home to their family, they are no longer hardcore WOW players, or starters, they dont even talk to the players, or give players what they want, they are done.
@corywilliamsmith
6 жыл бұрын
As someone who's step brother has worked at Blizzard since Beta wow in 04-05, this is true. They don't play the game like they used to and therefore why should it matter to them?
@Clartred
6 жыл бұрын
WHY THE FUCK DO YOU BASH THE DEVELOPERS? they do what their bosses tell them to do. they code what they are told to do. they dont choose what to do!!!!
@Yvessam
6 жыл бұрын
That's the problem
@corywilliamsmith
6 жыл бұрын
@@Clartred I'm not bashing any developers. My brother wasn't even in that department lol, I'm just saying. It's about money to the executives at Blizzard. Like I always been saying Sargeras irl is head at Blizzard now. Lols
@adfadfewfrewafawefaw
6 жыл бұрын
@@Clartred they need to take a stand to their bosses at this point. this is ridiculous
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