In that price range there's tough competition. The CPM-20CV Griptillians are only 20 more, and several other high end steel Benchmades are only slightly more than that including. Various PM2s including one in M390 for another 30 to 50, not to mention all the other Spydercos in the 150 range. Like you said the ZT0450 as well as many other high end production S35VN blades from countless manufacturers for the same or just a little more.....I think Steel Will may be pushing it here. And I like bright blue and thicker blades etc etc and think that M390 Cutjack would be great for me, but not at 150 bucks
@NickShabazz
7 жыл бұрын
The 20CV MiniGrip is a knife I should've been thinking about in writing this, as another way to get a great steel at a low price. Thanks for mentioning it. That's, frankly, a better choice, and I should've linked the two more directly here.
@HaesslichG
7 жыл бұрын
Nick Shabazz The G10 M390 Mini Griptillian is a decent knife for the price (it got me back into Benchmade knives, as it was perfectly centered and very ergonomic), although the nice handle without the cheese grater grip of the standard Griptillian is a bit fat for my pockets most of the time. The Cutjack would carry better, from what I could tell when I handled one in store, but it... well, as others have said, at that price I'd rather get another knife. One thing to note is that the Mini Griptillian is not a slicer - the saber grind makes it pretty bad at the type of cutting I tend to do (food, envelopes, boxes). The Bugout, however, that works pretty well. It's nearly Spyderco Delica FFG capable.
@bicimn
7 жыл бұрын
The problem is those are Benchmades, and I don't want to wonder if I'm going to get a good one or not- so I just skip them altogether
@HaesslichG
7 жыл бұрын
UrbanGear I have the advantage of being able to handle them in store, and the three Bugouts I got to handle were all pretty good... as were the Valet and the G10 Griptillian. But they do have a problem with consistency, which had been better the past few months. I'd always recommend handling the product before you buy, whenever possible. That's why I don't buy knives online brand new, even if the seller has a great reputation.
@maxguitarhero
6 жыл бұрын
The 20CV griptillian is also wayyyyy too thick behind the edge .
@danieldan759
6 жыл бұрын
Honestly, this knife in carbon fiber could be a gem.
@xDarkPrototypex
7 жыл бұрын
Painful pocket peckers perfectly piss off pretentious people reviewing pricy pocket knife performance, period.
@neokuji
7 жыл бұрын
Le Lemon lol
@colecon1012
7 жыл бұрын
I've had this knife for almost a month now and to be honest I don't mind the handle scales at all. I like how they're chamfered and personally like a little texture. I agree it's a little thick after the grind and could of been a bit better of a slicer considering the type of steel. Love your channel!!
@EDCwithAaron
7 жыл бұрын
I like the looks of the cutjack... Might go for the D2 one after this... Guess ill have to wait for your comparison!
@Pew7070
7 жыл бұрын
It is interesting to see how a potential gem looses on some small details that can be done right from the start with minimal effort. This knife with some cocobolo scales (or other beautiful hardwood) would look amazing. But for the steel alone this is a keeper. The rest can be TLC'd and made right.
@NickShabazz
7 жыл бұрын
Yep, this could be *much* better with a few small tweaks, mostly at the grinder.
@neokuji
7 жыл бұрын
That micarta option mentioned, or cf would be good too.
@LuvThemKnives
7 жыл бұрын
I totally love the Italian made Cutjack. The action is incredible and I like the texture and quality of the G10. It’s a great slicer as well. I’ve carried and used mine.... Just think of the Italian made Cutjack as the upgrade sprint run special edition.... lol Works for Spyderco and Benchmade.
@MrTIPPY30
7 жыл бұрын
thanks your review will wait for your comparison review. i have got into making making custom wood scales and this knife lends it self to this and love the size etc. (leaning toward this one as if i am going to put in the effort will want the complete upscale knife) note love my small gekko in large part it feels like quality in the hand steelwill may have missed that with this g10
@miniprepper4270
7 жыл бұрын
I have the d2 version and love it it's a great knife
@ogenmatic
7 жыл бұрын
I'm now offering replacement scales for this knife made from K-Y & Jellyfish. PM me for details & pricing.
@neokuji
7 жыл бұрын
😃♥️
@ringsystemmusic
7 жыл бұрын
Can I get them in a bead-blasted finish?
@tless1455
7 жыл бұрын
"KY and Jellyfish" would make a great band name
@tacticalcenter8658
7 жыл бұрын
Your first negative is the g10 because it's a more premium knife. But... I think they are going for more working man's knife. Like the pm2 for example. I think the high wear resistant steel, grippy scales, good ergo, thick steel liners etc are for heavy jobs in cutting. And for the price it's perfect for that, especially when compared to say spydercos offerings. And the grind... I assume being a work knife the grind is not going to need to be real slicey. But that's debatable depending on what it's ment to cut. I'd like more slicey like the pm2 and American lawman. But it's a welcome addition to the fold. I think your thinking this is more into the zt "style" flipper knife, but I'm viewing it as a tougher user knife. I'm not buying either. May get the carbon fiber model they are supposed to release soon, but not until someone reviews it.
@NickShabazz
7 жыл бұрын
That's fine, but this is walking an odd tension: It's a working man's knife, but it's on bearings, with a premium steel. The D2 version feels better at "working man's", but this doesn't feel premium, either. Just very odd.
@neokuji
7 жыл бұрын
Hopefully they fix any centering issues in a CF run.
@tacticalcenter8658
7 жыл бұрын
yea, i mean i get that too. but man look at the PM2 and american lawman, both great knives, both around $120 give or take. both have decent steel s30v and xhp. they feel the m390 and bearings is worth the extra cost. i dont think adding bearings makes it less of a working knife. but yea, you can look at it like that. more people would prefer washers for that, so in a way its odd. premium steel to last longer edge retention wise. i dont buy m390 zt's because its premium, i buy them because they last longer when im at work and have to break down 30 boxes, or whatever. i also dont have issues with bearings and cutting stuff. the bearings are just for faster deploy. the pivots whats holding that the blade. the bearings may get affected if your prying something really hard, but id suggest the blade would snap before the bearings mess something up. but yea, frn and d2 and washers to me also feel more like a working mans knife as well. but Market Trends have some thing to do with it as well. or i would hope so.
@tacticalcenter8658
7 жыл бұрын
dunno man. you can only hope. viper knives makes them, im not a fan of viper knives at all. lots of quality or QC issues. so im hesitant to purchase the cf version. i only just learned that viper makes them. i dont recall which factory makes the cutjack in china tho. for the price, the cutjack in d2 a solid knife.
@chuckbrant
6 жыл бұрын
We are seeing the same grind issues on the Kershaw Dividend. The 420HC has a nice hollow grind that makes it a great slicer, but the M390 is saber ground and thicker behind the endge
@jasonthames7360
7 жыл бұрын
Why buy a Cutjack when you can get a Viper Vox Fortis with m390 done by (probably) the same company in g10 and titanium for the same $150? I would like to see you review the Fortis Nick, I think you might like it.
@benzy2
7 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit surprised this gets the conclusion it does. The mini-grip, even in the Ritter grind, isn't a slicer at all. Certainly the Ritter is better but the standard is a bit fat. Even the 940 gets a rep as being a bit wedge like. The ZT 450 is again, not a slicer grind at all. The Valet is about the same size and price with M390 and G10 and was knocked for the build quality rather than handle material. The PM2/3 is $25 less at the base and the same handle material with a lessor (though still great) steel. The ones with more equivalent steel are on the same price point or higher. The naming is a little confusing but I'm not sure that makes the knife itself good or bad. Sure, making a recommendation requires specifying which you meant, but the same could be said about any of the sprint run PM2/3 series. I think you are right that it leans on the steel choice as it's big selling point but it doesn't seem to be out of line (on paper at least) relative to the rest of the market. The handles being a let down may be a bigger issue in person than they appear on video. For all the knives with serious flaws, the ones listed here seem rather mild to get a hoe hum conclusion. I've never handled one so maybe it's something that is more noticeable in person than through video.
@Chingus696
7 жыл бұрын
I love grippy g10. I guess we all have our preferences though as I don't like the smoothness on my 940-2. I would rather have g10 like the Spyderco Native or pm2
@xnbomb
7 жыл бұрын
How is Steel Will calling both of these knives Cutjack any different from Spyderco using the model name Delica or Endura for a range of knives with different steels and different handle materials? For example, a VG-10 Endura is about as different from a ZDP-189 Endura in price as these two Steel Wills are from each other (in fact, their MSRPs differ by about $57, and their street prices by about $34 using knifecenter.com for prices; granted that both are made in Seki City and both have FRN handles).
@NickShabazz
7 жыл бұрын
My complaint here is that the fundamental underpinnings differ. If even the opening mechanism and country of origin differ, it's very weird. Certainly, there are room for many models, but this feels odd.
@Iammightymeaty
7 жыл бұрын
I like the "cut jack" and "cut jill" name scheme.
@Mitcheco
7 жыл бұрын
I went down to BladeHQ not long ago to look at both of these knives, to see which one I liked better. For me, the texturing under the clip on the budget version was an absolute nightmare and a deal breaker. I went with this version instead, the M390 and G10 and I absolutely love mine.
@luisytacc
7 жыл бұрын
I'll be honest Nick, watching this review felt like it was on 1.5 speed. You doing alright?
@NickShabazz
7 жыл бұрын
Caffeine. Helluva chemical.
@charlesdudek7713
3 жыл бұрын
@@NickShabazz Actually Nick I like how you pack a lot of information and opinions in a short amount of time. It sure beats someone doing a lot of pausing and beating around the bush. I have learned to check on your reviews before buying a knife.
@ZechsAznable
7 жыл бұрын
This knife really reminded me of a "poor man's Wayfarer 247" (and not in a bad way). I had high hopes. I'm most disappointed with the grind. Thin stock should slice well, period. I have a feeling this might be a Viper product. I had a Viper Fortis and it was way thick behind the edge. It had a much thicker stock vs the Cutjack, but it was still too thick behind the edge. Personally, I might try the M390 3.5 still. Maybe they'll have the grind sorted on a taller blade?
@NickShabazz
7 жыл бұрын
Yep, that's my bet too.
@neokuji
7 жыл бұрын
Viper or fox, they needed help on their grinds too.
@paulhughes3961
7 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean, I only paid $140 for or my ZT 0909 and there's way more g10 and blade steel on it.
@blint587
7 жыл бұрын
Here in Europe the PM2 is more expensive than the M390 cutjack.
@NickShabazz
7 жыл бұрын
That's a decent reason to choose the Cutjack, particularly in D2.
@williams.1130
5 жыл бұрын
Buy the regular cutjack and with the 100 left over dollars buy the Giant Mouse Iona for 99 dollars. you get a great flipper with the cutjack and then you get M390 with the giant mouse.
@thibs8839
6 жыл бұрын
Hey Nick! After seeing your review on this blade I went to check it out at my local shop. Absolutely beautiful action and the construction is remarkable just as you covered. I wouldn't have hesitated on spending the money until I remembered what you said about it compared to D2... and you are right. As an edc It's probably not in my best interest to spend that money just because of the steel. So thank you for yet another epic review! Always a fan, keep them coming!
@Chingus696
7 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the grind would be different on the 3.5 inch m390 model?
@OverallVariable
7 жыл бұрын
Hey Nick, can you leave product links in the description?
@jakewolf079
7 жыл бұрын
never bought a Italy knife before, are Italy made knives any better than the Chinese made ones?
@ogenmatic
7 жыл бұрын
Beast of the Far East I have a Steel Will 'Mini Gekko' that is Italian made & has excellent fit & finish. Then again I have a Boker Plus 'PM3' that's...ahhh...not so much. A lot depends on whose factory they contract with & luck of the draw.
@brianfollett687
7 жыл бұрын
That's why they came out with the 3" M390 version first , because once the 3"D2 version comes out no-one will want to buy this one. I have the 3.5 D2 version and it's a great knife , and a great value at around $42 . Obviously D2 is not as expensive as it once was, so hopefully we should see alot more companies using it in their budget lines. There's alot of really nicely designed budget knives out there , that I'd like to try , but the 8cr Chinese crap is killing me.
@LTT.Official
7 жыл бұрын
I guess this one really...grinds, your, gears....ehhhh ehhhh
@wagstaff6135
7 жыл бұрын
So.... K-Y and Jellyfish handled sprint run?
@Mike-zr6fb
7 жыл бұрын
Great review Nick! I'm getting the black D2 version tomorrow hopefully. The one thing I've noticed is the knife already has a huge following. It's sold out everywhere online. I just got my kershaw link in s35vn. I know you've done the regular but will you or do you plan to do the better one? Keep up the great videos!
@NickShabazz
7 жыл бұрын
Steel Change reviews don't tend to be super interesting, and tend to bring out the Armchair Metallurgists. So, I'll probably not.
@MrSATism
7 жыл бұрын
Do you think that knives with m390 are just doomed to have thick grinds? (Much like your custom front flipper)
@knifebitten1613
7 жыл бұрын
anyone remebers that this knife was presented at this years Blade with white scales? it was beautiful, why going blue...🙄
@t_mac6866
6 жыл бұрын
I realize this knife came out before the Kershaw Link and Dividend M390 models were released but how can Kershaw make their M390 knives for almost half the cost of Steel Will? That considered, do you still think this knife is a good value?
@nitrorc4life1
6 жыл бұрын
T_MAC686 , I grabbed a couple links with the m390, they are a bit heavy but a solid knife it is.
@bengalvin71
7 жыл бұрын
Nick, I'm concerned that you would ever use the words KY and jellyfish in the same sentence. Seek help. I agree micarta scales would make an excellent aftermarket accessory to really kick this up as a carry option.
@TheKillerKlok
7 жыл бұрын
So... speaking of rough g10 on a pocket clip when are we getting to the mini lawman... or was it a mini recon review? That coldsteel one... It would be interesting to see a value comparison imo.
@NickShabazz
7 жыл бұрын
Mini Lawman!
@TheKillerKlok
7 жыл бұрын
Ahh... The mini lawman is one I have been hesitant to buy. The full size would easily make my list of all time favorites. (With a clip mod.) A nick shabazz review of the mini may actually swing me. Sadly one of my main concerns is my 2xl hand size. lol
@williamjc7195
6 жыл бұрын
I'm buying the D2 :)
@domdomsixsix
7 жыл бұрын
-_- 150 $ for you and 200 $ + taxe for me here in canada ... damn candadien dollars
@dubasciver3234
7 жыл бұрын
dominic lamarre As a fellow Canadian I agree. I'll go for the Benchmade 940-2 for a little more. It is tried, tested, and true.
@domdomsixsix
7 жыл бұрын
well i more of a spyderco guy myself i bought a manix 2 xl a year ago and he go out with me evrey day. im not realy fond of benchmade i find them to expencive for what you get.
@alicecullotto7530
6 жыл бұрын
3.5" m390 version is $100 right now! (Oct. 2017)
@ewong415
6 жыл бұрын
Alice Cullotto where?
@sputumtube
7 жыл бұрын
The liner-lock on both examples looks awfully thin........
@Joe.dirt7909
6 жыл бұрын
I prefer the grippy g10
@neokuji
7 жыл бұрын
centering issues on an upgraded option (or any knife in that retail range) should not be an issue. Lots of good but if you don’t care enough to QC flaws from an upgrade, well?
@BrentonCarr
6 жыл бұрын
the billboarding on the blade is the ONLY thing I don't like on my FRN version, but I really, really don't like it
@jamesmuzzillo9994
7 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if I could disagree with you anymore.
@abramsatwo2515
7 жыл бұрын
the blue looks 'childish' !
@NickShabazz
7 жыл бұрын
Well, come on, you've gotta at least try to disagree further. :) .
@NickShabazz
7 жыл бұрын
Also, I hope I'm going to make my base better in my "M390 vs. D2 Cutjack" discussion, coming tomorrow :)
@Hofology
6 жыл бұрын
I hope you plan on reviewing that 940-2 soon!!!
@brodon4886
4 жыл бұрын
Inherent gripitude. Lol.
@void1984
4 жыл бұрын
The shape is the same, so I like calling it still Cutjack. I won't pay the $100 for the upgrade.
@petergalione9704
7 жыл бұрын
I feel like people named Jack should not handle this knife.
@paulhughes3961
6 жыл бұрын
It's over priced compared to what else is out there for the same money. There's not enough steel in 3 inches to justify that price. The Spyderco Shaman is a better knife for less.
@joeysplats3209
6 жыл бұрын
Liked. Not subbing 'til you give me something usable. You see, this is all about me and that's why so many fail: It's about the customer. BTW, speaking of the customer, (that's you) ever wonder why Spyderco makes those G10 scales with the stupid texture that collects all the gunk? Why the gunk? Customers are tired of all the gunk. When will somebody do something about the gunky knife scales? Apparently it's not on the radar 'cuz Spyderco thinks gunk in the scales is not a customer issue. YOU HEAR THAT SPYDERCO??
@Stahlwerk88
7 жыл бұрын
That knife's ugly as shit. It looks like a toy, especially with the blue G10 and the massive branding on both sides. Action definitely seems impressive, however.
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