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@CleopatraPhilopator
8 ай бұрын
Hey 👋 Hello refinery29, this was a GREAT documentary! Could you guys please put in the description box the date this was recorded? 😊🙏
@carlosgil9886
8 ай бұрын
Just to add that this documentary was made around 2016? Couse that president end functions in 2018
@demetrixxxable
8 ай бұрын
Ok.. mi raza, este video tiene DATOS VIEJOS E IRRELEVANTES. Pues miren la fecha en que se subió? I hope is not from that woman who appears… talking on this video!😮
@rec.thecritic
7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 is not murray is mirray my king 😂😂😂it sounded horrible
@user-eu7md1ew9s
7 ай бұрын
Yuck😂 no more 🌈
@Clwr_Romeo
8 ай бұрын
Hailey is hands down one of the best hosts for shows like this she really talks to everyone she doesn't act like shes in a zoo. I hope she gets to continue hosting shows like this cause she is Amazing.
@ellitestar
8 ай бұрын
I agree, she doesn't patronize her interviewees. I just made up a new word I think?
@casaprofunda_
8 ай бұрын
absolutely stretch. basic white girl who can't even speak the language prancing around. like at least get someone who can speak spanish. don't know why i keep getting these unrefinery video recommended every few months with this chick.
@xenostim
8 ай бұрын
agreed. and no, you didn't invent the word interviewee 😁@@ellitestar
@TomSarracino
8 ай бұрын
Ya! Amazing ! 🎉
@estelacruz1016
8 ай бұрын
Agree
@icohuom4145
6 ай бұрын
As an Anthropologist, I found this video truly enlightening. I admit I was about to stop watching when she mentioned Merecedes Benz fashion week and Mexico’s former first lady and her daughters, I thought I was just another silly video. I was brushing my teeth and that was the reason why I didn’t stop the video, then minute after minute it revealed an amazing and accurate description of Mexico City’s urban tribes. Well done. If one day Mexico collapses, as it happened to some of its prehispanic societies, this video would be a true archeological treasure, it would save art historians many years of work, and would expose a real vision of the social complexities of the Mexican society back in 2017.
@annebaisden8717
Ай бұрын
I had the same initial reaction, and find myself fascinated halfway through. What blew me away is that using fashion as a lens, and a pretense, for digging into subculture is so effective. I now clearly see how we dress ourselves and present ourselves to one another is the one thing we all have in common and the easiest way to distinguish group affiliation. So are all fashion journalists just closet anthropologists? The video also touches on the echos of the old caste system, which reminds me of the struggles India has, as well as growing social stratification in the USA. We can all learn a lot from this video, even if we don't identify with high fashion and runway shows.
@spanishflu7MaDaFaKa
Ай бұрын
I just eate mushrooms 😶
@spanishflu7MaDaFaKa
Ай бұрын
Yeah let's send this video on a probe to Mars ,to enlighten the aliens about mankind bad taste 👽👽🦝🏃🏽🥸💀🤷🏼♂️
@fabulosabb3
20 күн бұрын
Actual participant observation
@spanishflu7MaDaFaKa
20 күн бұрын
@@icohuom4145 they are called Nakos
@lucemoon4370
8 ай бұрын
As a former “emo” back in 2009, it’s actually amazing to see these kids keeping the style / music alive.
@sweetiepie4328
8 ай бұрын
I was in Mexico in the 1998.... they been on this style even back then. Very reggae goth almost
@msergio0293
8 ай бұрын
It's a dead style but whatever
@REAL-NANO
8 ай бұрын
This is from 2016.
@ChelseySmith-gg9rb
8 ай бұрын
I’m 30 and still am lmao 🤣 I’m former nothing besides being a mix between a goth, emo and hippy and have been since I was younger. It’s a lifestyle and not something we just get out of if you enjoy the styles and scene. That’s just me though. I hate going by labels because it depends on my mood that determines what I wear or what I wanna be that day.
@WhiteWolfos
7 ай бұрын
@@ChelseySmith-gg9rb you're not the only one! There's alot of ppl ik still rocking the styles
@gog9o9magog
8 ай бұрын
you gotta check out the mexican goth scene. mexican goths are perfect, pre-mall goth 80s style goths. its like i returned to highschool. at their events they even play my teenage playlist. warms my cold dead heart
@alexsmart5452
7 ай бұрын
I been in the Goth/Industrial scene since 84'. Im in LA/Hollywood and the Mexican Goth scene both here in LA and in Mexico is well loved. Their love of Robert Smith and Morrissey has always been a gateway drug to conversation when Ive visited Mexico and run into Goths there.
@frankyymilkyy9001
6 ай бұрын
@@alexsmart5452 So you just come and say you love Smith/Morrissey and they are like "you're welcooome! and it's not cringey at all to start conversations like that"
@jahbrony3650
5 ай бұрын
@@frankyymilkyy9001 lol!
@DustinHawke
3 күн бұрын
Almost like you could time travel by going there.
@tracyspacey6071
8 ай бұрын
I’ve been to Paris, Rome, Barcelona, Madrid, New York, Miami, L.A., Buenos Aires and Mexico City. And Mexico Coty fashion is so unique they really push style and art to the next level.
@franciscovilcheavila960
8 ай бұрын
@@3x157 Si, por ejemplo los estadounidenses solo mencionan a los cholos y su ropa cuando se refieren a los mexicanos, debe ser complicado cuando tienen esa vision de ustedes.
@jahwobble5214
8 ай бұрын
have you been to London??
@lorihoop3831
8 ай бұрын
I need to know what top she has on in the beginning of the video. I love it.
@YusefMontiel
8 ай бұрын
😂ok
@earthn1447
8 ай бұрын
I too have explored many major cities and lived in a few - I have never experienced the beauty, complexity and incredible array of creativity as I saw in Mexico City.
@keynotepablo3524
8 ай бұрын
im living in mexico city (formerly in socal) and i can easily say without a doubt, mexico city has some of the most unique and bold fashion i've ever seen in my life. people down here are SO unafraid to wear literally whatever. brands don't matter, replicas don't matter, nobody gives a shit. people are just freely themselves, and i mean REALLY themselves. the confidence is unrivaled. PS.. this video was uploaded in 2017.. i only wish they could do a new video on the current state of fashion in mexico city in 2024. it's insane.
@Evalunamf
7 ай бұрын
zocalo
@CaptainHi-Top-w5q
7 ай бұрын
I was in Mexico 1972. It was alright then. Just saying
@keynotepablo3524
7 ай бұрын
@@CaptainHi-Top-w5q newsflash buddy, it's 2024, FIFTY years later. the state of fashion is not even REMOTELY close to what it was in the 70s. you're living on the moon if you think it's the same.
@sky-pv7ff
7 ай бұрын
They are broken people. Except the office worker group.
@septimaserpent
7 ай бұрын
Can You Lmk What You Prefer In Mexico City Vs. What You Prefer In SoCal? I Live In La Habra (If You Know Where That Is Lol) & I Honestly Despise It Here. Been Planning A Move To Eugene, OR But Mexico City Sounds Dope & Wanna Hear A Firsthand Account From Someone Who Has Lived Over Here & Moved There.@@keynotepablo3524
@tracyaskew1651
8 ай бұрын
I'm American from the States and was into the Punk scene in my high school days back in Washington, DC. Back then, I stood out being black in what was mostly the White kids in the scene at the time. My black friends just didn't understand me or why. But, I didn't really care one bit. I'm 58 now, but it was like a safe community for me at the time. My parents didn't get it but accepted it and my wild friends. They loved her. I moved to Mexico a few years ago and had no idea this was so heavy here. This whole program was for me, educational and so well done. You have a natural charisma that makes people open up to you. Keep up the good work!
@duanegoggins873
7 ай бұрын
Know what you are talking about. As a 59 y.o. Black man, I went through the same thing in the early 80's being into punk and other alternative scenes.
@gilwood7530
7 ай бұрын
I was just a misfit white kid , late 70s and early 80s in school , loved the whole scene ...everyone got along at punk shows ..i guess I was still a misfit but by my own choice ...it really made my teen years memorable
@joeyj6808
6 ай бұрын
Best kept secret: the punk scene has always been mellow and accepting of weirdos like me. Don't tell anybody!
@johannwolf1
5 ай бұрын
@@duanegoggins873 we are the same age... this is all derivative. I want to hear something new musically, see something new in fashion. I want to bring beauty back... it's all gotten so pathetic and ugly.
@SmokeyChipOatley
8 ай бұрын
I know this is an older documentary but it’s still fantastic regardless. Hailey did a great job not only connecting with but understanding the people living Mexico’s truth and not this fictionalized version perpetuated by US media and politicians. No Mexico isn’t perfect. But it has a lot more in the form of beauty and culture than many people outside its borders would give it credit for.
@jesusserrano8769
8 ай бұрын
as a mexican who lives in the far north, i feel astonished everytime i go to mexico city, it is like another country, full of culture
@SunshineGelb
6 ай бұрын
Pu's dónde vives?🙂
@gatobuho-
2 ай бұрын
@@SunshineGelb pues en el norte, acá las sub ulturas son un poco diferentes, porque apesar de ser el mismo país somos multicultirales y tu experiencia siendo mexicano no es la misma que la mía.
@SunshineGelb
2 ай бұрын
@@gatobuho- AFORTUNADAMENTE!!!!!! Como escribió el del primer comentario en la CDMX sí tenemos una cultura y no sólo somo una copia chafa de los gringos como todo el norte y lo digo porque tuve que hacer la primaria en Tijuana.😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😝
@19ars92
Ай бұрын
@@gatobuho- Es igual con la gente del sur, literalmente la zona Maya es otra civilización ajena a Tenochtitlán, es como si italia y Grecia fueran el mismo país, mexico tiene demasiadas culturas y subculturas a pesar de todo el territorio que hemos perdido en el sur y norte es increíble que seamos un país funcional aun.
@Elmeromerosaborranchero-q8x
8 ай бұрын
The lack of a condescending lense through all of it made it real but significantly vibrant and immersive, showing us a deep view of a contemporary Mexico City when majority of times international media coverage lacks about the layers of mexican society beyond simple stereotypes
@geryg7030
8 ай бұрын
This was beautifully done. Hailey is a complete professional and she has an authenticity that, clearly, anyone from any background recognizes and responds well to. Also, thank you to all who worked on this project for showing the many, many dimensions and layers that Mexico is comprised of- even in the segue music, you guys didn’t just use the “typical Mexican” music that most non-Mexican media tends to generically resort to. A job well done. Even my mom, who is much more versed with our culture than I am, was drawn into this video as I watched and also gained new perspectives. Thank you 🙏🏽🙌🏽
@nokateno
8 ай бұрын
She really works that concerned expression.
@jairortega3877
8 ай бұрын
I don't think I've ever saw a documentary that portrays this well Mexican fashion and culture, well done! Also the host did such an amazing job
@elikmr5978
2 ай бұрын
Well, it portraits Mexico city's culture pretty much. Cause things can be very different in the province (other states) and other major cities like Monterrey and Guadalajara. There's a lot of thing of the culture you haven't seen yet, and much more diversity then that...
@VanessaSalmeron5
8 ай бұрын
Wow I'm from México and you have done very good research, it's incredible that you have visited those places which many people are afraid of. Thanks for showing our reality without judgment.
@staceytroffer8287
7 ай бұрын
You have the sweetest disposition, you get along with anyone and everybody, no one feels threatened by your style of communication, which is incredible. Really a pleasure to watch. And very interesting topics.
@nayibdelarosa510
8 ай бұрын
really well produced, from a Mexican, this piece was fun and respectful.
@alejandromoreno5056
8 ай бұрын
why would it not be respectful?
@RipPimpCScrewstonTX
8 ай бұрын
"Fun & respectful" you sound Mexican American. Southern part of the west coast to be exact 😅
@lindascott2008
8 ай бұрын
@@alejandromoreno5056 Because it is highly likely that this documentary could have been looking at people's choices as bizarre oddities, as outsiders looking in, and the person interviewing could have had a cynical or sarcastic tone in her voice, but didn't, which would not have been respectful. And they had the respect to really look at the positive reason for the various "tribes" and how the unity among the tribe members and their mutual support of each other creates a positive purpose in that city. I would not have seen that if it were not pointed out. I found it incredibly respectful when it was highly possible to not be.
@nicolasmaximus2286
8 ай бұрын
Because the wrong person could make it look bad & disrespectful!!! How about old are you☝️? Out of respect I won’t say it.🎬
@derek5839
7 ай бұрын
@@RipPimpCScrewstonTX does the tx from your name not mean Texas?
@luisamador2318
3 ай бұрын
Hi, a mexican living mexico here, those taxi drivers do not want apps like uber because people choose those apps over regular taxis because those taxis are very very likely to overcharge, its the most common thing and people do not trust them anymore, we are tired of them and we had enough
@kocholawis1851
8 ай бұрын
As a Mexican i can say that that part about the impunity of the rich is true. 2 People i know where killed by rich drunken teenage drivers, whithout any consecuences. One of them was a girl under 12 years old.
@AntonioPeralesdelHierro
2 ай бұрын
The rich murder the poor in an enormous variety of ways. Business as usual, with crucial assistance from Corpo Media.
@lewizzrocks
8 ай бұрын
Mexico City is absolutely a top 3 metro city in terms of culture, Beauty and history.
@0000song0000
6 ай бұрын
but damn air pollution Every time i go there's a chilango proudly talking about "carrying a bag of smog" when traveling to other cities. There's just too many cars,busses, trailers, motorcycles, bycicles, and crossing a street becomes quite stressful 😅
@catAfaable
11 ай бұрын
Is this old?. Lopez Obrador has been the president since 2018 , not Peña Nieto
@DrawLatinFashion
11 ай бұрын
This must be very old, since Fashion Week Mexico hasn’t been held in Mexico City since the pandemic. Edit: This is from 2016 (that’s when the 10th anniversary of MBFWMx was)
@dinodinosaur2930
11 ай бұрын
@@DrawLatinFashion This is 8 years old
@Zels101
11 ай бұрын
I don’t think it matters how old this is, still a way of life for many people living in Mexico still 😢
@sararichardson737
9 ай бұрын
@@dinodinosaur2930YEAH and the peso has recovered since then
@sxt4447
9 ай бұрын
They reposted the series but it’s was originally done in the early 2010s
@JohnnygSawyer
8 ай бұрын
What an interesting perspective into Mexican Culture. Back in my day (80's) in Los Angeles, all the genres hung out together. You could have metalheads, punks and goths in your crew. It's sad that it's so divided in Mexico. Haley was phenomenal, she didn't act any different around all the subcultures. The Cholos looked like LA Crips. Those lowrider bikes are awesome! Bravo ❣️
@thearcanamodernau8130
7 ай бұрын
Creo que es porque los movimientos se formaron de manera muy distinta en ambos países, a pesar de que técnicamente tienen el mismo nombre. La historia de la Ciudad de Mexico ha sido muy complicada y llena de conflicto desde su inicio. Lógico de la extensión urbana más grande de latinoamerica.
@betsymelinacortezalonso4834
11 ай бұрын
Thank you Refinery29 for keep posting all of Vice "States of Undress" episodes!
@zenbrunch4875
8 ай бұрын
I knew it was familiar
@ho2cultcha
8 ай бұрын
Many years ago, i was introduced to the 'freson' side of mexico. I was hitch hiking to Acapulco on my 25th bday and got picked up by this Syrian guy in a mercedes convertible. We spent the next 2 months bopping around mexico - flying back and forth to Mexico City for parties etc... The first thing that blew my mind was when there was a traffic jam because they were blasting to expand the road near Acapulco. Traffic was backed up for miles! My friend pulled to the side of the traffic and gunned it. When cops stopped him a few times, he swore at them and laid on the horn until they let him thru. They stopped the blasting until we were through. I was mortified, but that was just the introduction. I met a lot of singing legends, movie stars - Mexican and American, and tripped on the best acid ever while being towed on an innertube by a fast little boat. I'm tripping my balls off and there are dolphins jumping around me. One of these days, i'll write about it more.
@fuckingtruth9328
9 ай бұрын
haley gates is absolutely fenomenal on these series!
@19ars92
Ай бұрын
She dresses so cute 😊
@joanofarcxxi
7 ай бұрын
I LOVED this so much, for so many reasons. I am Portuguese but I live in California and have spent most of my adult life in Los Angeles and Fresno (now I live in the central coast). I visited Mexico several times, different states and cities, but my favorite was definitely Mexico City. It is wild! I have never seen such a mezcla of people, sights, sounds, and flavors, it's so unique, insane, wonderful, and exotic. It's packed with a whole lot of people!! - and they are often up all night. I remember going to a cafe after 1AM, on a week night, and it was so packed that there were no tables or chairs left. People were sitting on the sidewalk outside. It was hot, but not uncomfortable. People were wearing the most interesting fusion of styles, and they had their guitars, and some had matracas, flutes, and other small instruments, and they were playing music and smoking cigarettes. There is a rawness to the place. It feels brutal at times. I was scared to walk around at night, and even in the day, I was afraid to walk around alone. I find Mexican culture super interesting and mysterious. In a way, Mexicans and Portuguese are very similar, perhaps due to Catholicism and the Hispanic background of the discoveries and colonization, and of course, our language. But in other ways, we are so different. Mexican culture and history are fascinating, and the different groups/gangs of fashion expression are truly phenomenal in the way they embody the varied sentiments of the diverse population. You did such a great job with this report, and I have to say, you are very brave. It's almost like you infiltrated their world, and they were not all necessarily comfortable with that, so it took guts to dive in. ❤💚🤍💙 Saludos hermanos Mexicanos. ❤💀
@jonathanweir6084
7 ай бұрын
anywhere compared to portugal is, especially coming from the azores. fresno even.
@joanofarcxxi
7 ай бұрын
@@jonathanweir6084yeah, right. I am not from Azores, a very beautiful place. And I didn't grow up in Portugal, though I was born there and I love my heritage. I have traveled a lot and lived in different countries. Mexico City is in a separate category. Over 22 million people in one massive chaotic city. It's tremendous.
@karinaalvear2229
9 ай бұрын
Thank you for showing the many realities of mexico, the many worlds that exist within... the abstract beauty of my home country. thank you
@--Paws--
8 ай бұрын
That bicycle interview, that is so refreshing. Not many go on excursions like this even on a good weather day especially for an active conversation.
@dianakim6240
8 ай бұрын
This country full of subcultures which is amazing, absolutely love it,
@danieldelrancho5749
8 ай бұрын
Honestly is not the whole country, it’s mainly Mexico City, more likely you won’t see that anywhere else in the country
@DavidRuiz-wv5mp
8 ай бұрын
@@danieldelrancho5749 ciudad juares está lleno de pachucos y en otros estados también que tú no conozcas otros lugares de mexico es otra cosa
@MagieUrisha
8 ай бұрын
@@danieldelrancho5749 In the center of every city there's a subculture. Even at the more conservative ones (Nuevo León for ex.) there's a counterpart (a lot of LGBT+ communities are hosted there, from Drag Queens to furries).
@danieldelrancho5749
8 ай бұрын
@@DavidRuiz-wv5mp eh visitado Juárez varias veces y nunca eh visto ni un pachucho, posiblemente si hay varios pero solo se visten así los domingos. De eso no hablo sino de los rockeros de la ciudad de México qe para ellos si es un estilo de vida
@danieldelrancho5749
8 ай бұрын
@@MagieUrisha the lgbtq group or community isn’t a subculture my dude
@TheLindenbaum
8 ай бұрын
I have not finished watching this, but I need to say that Hailey is wonderfully brave and obviously very well connected to herself and to it all. Thank you for so much valid information!
@sandramoon7386
Ай бұрын
The ending brought me to tears. People doing what they need to do to protect themselves and most importantly each other. So much love it’s beautiful.
@TheVerjan8008
2 ай бұрын
She really navigates and interacts in such a natural way. Super interesting, respectful, honest and down to earth. I genuinely enjoyed every aspect of this. Super cool.
@japanish14
11 ай бұрын
Being Mexican but Living in Canada since I was 6, I love seeing this part of my culture which I will never understand or even get to really see. Thankyou for spreading the wonders of Mexico to the world.
@GhostdanceCalaveras
8 ай бұрын
prayers that you are able to escape Canada
@Garbeaux.
6 ай бұрын
Your culture is a mix of Mexican *and* Canadian since you’re Mexican but grew up and live in Canada.
@music4thedeaf
Ай бұрын
You should travel brother even a bit will enrich your life. Californian mex looking yo travel to mex city next year. Been north and south mex jus not mex city proper
@earthn1447
8 ай бұрын
I woke up to the amazing uniqueness of the difference cultures in Mexico when visiting an exhibit of nativity scenes at the community center in Coyoican - I recognized many of the different styles and materials but hadn’t realized they had grown out of distinct groups of people. It was truest an experience seeing the nativity created from stoneware, to 2-D metal, woven from straw, beading and so many other traditions. I could spend years in Mexico City exploring the arts - and the magnificent archeological museum was mind blowing.
@angel2641
8 ай бұрын
Classism is huge in Mexico due its history of colonialism.
@TheSunship777
8 ай бұрын
colonialism produced another form of Mexican culture as seen in its baroque
@anaquintero9841
8 ай бұрын
No éramos colonia, éramos provincia.
@javieresparbe5582
8 ай бұрын
@@anaquintero9841 😂
@jammart85
8 ай бұрын
el clasismo, inclusive en la pasarela esa moda ni siquiera es accesible si no es más para que los riquillos lo vean como un espectáculo.
@andros1000
8 ай бұрын
True. All this dysfunctionality has colonial roots, but Mexico has had more than 200 years to fix it. It is its own baby, now. It seems it’s only gotten worse in some ways.
@carlitoxb110
8 ай бұрын
Mexican city is one of the most vibrant city in all of the American continent
@hihenry22
3 ай бұрын
i would say in the world.
@NatalieSelene
7 ай бұрын
I grew up in the US with punks and goths in the 90s and emos after Y2K. Honestly, I cannot imagine those 3 groups not getting along. Here in the states, they are all a small divergence from the exact same thing.
@twezi
7 ай бұрын
its because its about the tribal aestheticism and not about what the things actually mean. dude was right when he said "they hate us because we are hardcore" because they actually live as themselves 24/7. punks in the US dont stop being punk to go to their factory jobs.
@gerardorodas1854
7 ай бұрын
I am a 59 year old from Tijuana punk rocker you did a tremendous job.
@dizen4391
8 ай бұрын
This documental means to be one of the better ever made from all clothing style in at least Mexico City, indeed because involve a little of the bigger clothing style and the deep history about what's made and relate to who. Awesome work, I've could say this need to be saved in a national museum. Different perspectives are what made us "to be". 11/10!
@EstoNoesta-oj2lk
8 ай бұрын
I just wanna say that you did a great job with this episode. As a Mexican I loved it and wanna thank you for you professionalism. Was great to see the effort to picture a lot of kind of tribes
@Ch3rryT3a
11 ай бұрын
Interesting subject matter, especially the juxtaposition between the rich and poor right next to eachother.
@MukbangMukbangMukbang111
8 ай бұрын
It’s cool to see that Mexico has preserved all these subcultures something that hasn’t been seen in the US for over a decade. It’s too bad that they don’t all band together against the government though.
@MarkPemble
8 ай бұрын
Oh, believe me, pretty much all of this culture is still seen here in the States - but on a smaller level.
@pucknhusker9426
8 ай бұрын
Well said my man. If the kids are united they will never be divided ✌
@ericktellez7632
8 ай бұрын
Rise against what government? Our current government is the most popular government Mexico has had since the 1940s, Amlo has the second or third highest approval rating in the world if you count Putin or not, why would people band towards a government almost 70% approve of?
@cosmicmuch2024
8 ай бұрын
@@ericktellez7632 You're absolutely right. It's currently the most popular government in Mexico, I believe top 2 in the world. On the contrary, it's a shame people in the US don't get together to do something on what currently going on.
@yaddahaysmarmalite4059
8 ай бұрын
@@cosmicmuch2024 we got trump up here mucking things up. and the democrats don't see the issues in the right way to be effective in doing anything about it. we've got stupid people on both sides of the political divide.
@terrijdavis1953
8 ай бұрын
This is SUCH a great piece and hosted beautifully. I really enjoyed this❤
@thearcanamodernau8130
7 ай бұрын
As a Mexican is amazing how distant I feel from these urban subcultures even though I live in a city less than a hundred kilometers away. These urban sub cultures exist where I live but they are not as prominent or big as they are in the capital. It goes to show how how diverse the culture is in this country.
@jasminetorres8570
7 ай бұрын
why am I so emotional?? I loved every minute of this as a Mexican-American, it was a great watch! loved the host!
@OscarOLVERAIRIGOYEN
7 ай бұрын
Hailey enriches the fashion show with humanity, cultural awareness, intelligence, and incredible empathy for all human expressions. Bravo!
@talltom1129
7 ай бұрын
Haley,I love your style. Your presentation is totally unpretentious, and feels so real. This is the 3rd of your videos i watched today, and I subscribed so I can see the rest! For the record, I'm a 65 year old white man, and have lived with the punk mindset since the eighties.
@maxtaquino3774
Ай бұрын
Montse's story had me weeping. Thank you for this video. The entire thing beginning to end was so respectful and well done.
@camiloestrada2450
8 ай бұрын
Amazing video! As a Mexican, I feel grateful for your work guys. Thanks! Hailey is la neta del planeta!
@mwj5368
7 ай бұрын
Hailey is amazing how she meets with so many within the huge population of Mexico City. She can speak with anyone and they all accept her. I live in a Senior citizens building of 131 apartments and they formed a "tribe" here too. They all gather around the front lobby and become informally "members" and hang out there most of the day. It is their way of support and dealing with the greater society they have been segregated from. I see the formation of a tribe as a primal necessity as we are a social being and it is fundamental to the course of human history. I'm not a member but it is interesting to see how they find unity and support and satisfy a basic human need. It's interesting as it happens in Mexico City and Minneapolis, or Tokyo, or Bejing... I see it as a universal to the human condition. Thanks Hailey as you are courageous amazing person communicating with an array of amazing people, opening a vital window on the world.
@fleetc
7 ай бұрын
The reporter and team did an amazing job documenting this. It's sad seeing so many lost souls. The godín part was really funny, it reminds me of the salaryman in Japan.
@BCtdesign
2 ай бұрын
I'm honest with you, this is one of the best videos I've seen on KZitem in a long time. The host was super nice and open to all the different opinions and messages. It really gave me a Vice vibe, like when they were producing great content.
@TheLoneDranger
8 ай бұрын
"Once we attack people's dignity, then it's no longer funny." So well said godinez.
@ApLemon
5 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this documentary; Hailey engaged with the culture of each tribe and by embodying the fashion style and their activities helped this work to reflect the multiple realities that people live within this small but dense city.
@bevs9995
8 ай бұрын
Fascinating that the emos and punks hate eachother in mexico --- never seemed to be the case in America.. Actually, it seems like the two subcultures just produced a hybrid: Called the Scene Kids
@helenrowlett6804
8 ай бұрын
agree. punks and emos are mostly the same in the US
@speedwagoncito
8 ай бұрын
I don't know if it's the same or similar in other places, but here in Mexico, a lot of "true fans" of something tend to be the gatekeeper kind of fans, especially when it comes to music like rock (punk or metal, mainly). If you don't like the same genre as them, you're looked down upon by "trues". If you like the genre but listen to "mainstream" bands, you're looked down upon by "trues". If you're just getting into a band's music or a genre in general, you're seen as a "poser" by "trues" because you likely only/mostly know the most popular songs of that band/genre, and so on and so forth. I'm guessing that could be where part of the hate stems from, since some of the emo kids in the video were wearing Misfits shirts and other punk bands' shirts too. It's frankly silly, but it's something that actually happens with some of those guys. Also, as mentioned in the video, a lot of people here associate being emo with being gay as plenty of the then kids who were emo here in the 2000s have identified as LGBTQ+ at some point. Plus, emos were known to be more in touch with their feelings, being emotional and crying and etc, all of which tend to be seen as "feminine things" that men are looked down upon or even mocked about it if they do it and, thus, seen as "gay" due to the strongly rooted sexism/misogyny we have in the country. Pair that with the raging homophobia even in more open-minded places like Mexico city, and it really does show more or less where some of the hate towards emos comes from. It also doesn't help that a lot of punks in Latin America and in Mexico alone tend to align more with conservative views in general, and so you often see some of them making fun of radical stances and gender-defying looks and whatnot (countless times I've seen "boomer" type of posts from them mocking even other punks who are more radical in their appearances, or those who defy gender stereotypes and etc). It's sad.
@andros1000
8 ай бұрын
Mexico *is* in “America”. The other country you are referencing is the “United States of America”. The word America was not coined solely for one country, but for an entire continent or hemisphere.
@bevs9995
8 ай бұрын
@@andros1000 why do south americans keep saying this. i see them all over the comment sections of videos, like they really want to be known as "americans" or something
@andros1000
8 ай бұрын
@@bevs9995 Because that’s what they are. They are Americans from the southern part of America. Hence the name “South” America. US Americans are that and they are also just “Americans”, because they too exist in the continent/hemisphere that was named “America”since the early 1500s, *way before* the first English colonies were founded. US Americans can also be thought of as North Americans, because that distinction also applies to them, as it does to Canadians, Greenlanders, and Mexicans, all also just “American”, continentally or hemispherically speaking. I know most US Americans think of America/American as terms that only apply to them, and they have persuaded much of the rest of the world to think likewise. But, peoples with historical memory need not abide by such arbitrary appropriations. In Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, French (partially) and German-speaking lands (partially as well), amongst others, this awareness of the true origin and significance of America/American is an established part of the culture.
@torodeoro5905
8 ай бұрын
Exelent video. I'm Mexican living in the US all my life and sometimes I forget how beautiful my culture is. Great job 👏👏
@allisonrosinski1264
11 ай бұрын
This was so cool! Thanks for making this Refinery 29 and Hailey!
@mwurder
Ай бұрын
I love, love, love this video! I can't believe how much work was put into it; it's so amazing. Glad I stumbled upon this documentary.
@angiemendoza9745
8 ай бұрын
the Godinez its absolutely gold, and the host did an amazing job so lovely
@AmissAttire
8 ай бұрын
This was beautifully and wonderfully inspiring! Well done Hailey 👏👏👏👏🔥🔥🔥🔥. This truly moved my heart 🥰
@FinancialFinesse00
8 ай бұрын
Thanks for making such a valuble and informative episode of Mexico City such a vibrant city full of energy loved it keep the gems coming
@pathfinderwellcare
7 ай бұрын
I really appreciate and honor Hailey's compassion and humility. ❤
@miloluna8201
8 ай бұрын
Me encantó muchísimo como tú vas aprendiendo de cada persona con respeto y asombro. 🎉🎉🎉❤
@LohengrinX14
5 ай бұрын
man as an american the Goths, punks and emos not getting along is just mind blowing to me cause here we're like one nation made of many tribes of people who love wearing black
@rodrigodiaz5003
8 ай бұрын
So well documented, with sensitivity and care.. great oroduction.thank you!
@maryancorzo3294
8 ай бұрын
increíble contenido, mostrando un lado de la ciudad de méxico que normalmente no muestran. Gracias por el gran documental!!!
@jaad9848
8 ай бұрын
The taxis are always running scams in CDMX and Cancun. I generally support Taxis worldwide but taxi drivers in those 2 specific places can get bent
@BearingMySeoul
8 ай бұрын
Just take Uber or Didi? That's what I use apart from the airport.
@ellaregan4307
12 күн бұрын
Yep. I was in mexico city last week and a local taxi scammed us out of $1700
@servandopatlan6150
8 ай бұрын
Thank you for a very respectful report. You did a great job of explaining the why of each community. Keep promoting understanding for all of humanity.
@sebastianaleman5493
8 ай бұрын
the Godines part got me dead lmao
@cameliafinleyfilms
18 күн бұрын
Hailey you did an amazing job of compassionate listening and journalism here.
@amadolandin9506
8 ай бұрын
Amazing video! I used to live in Mexico City and saw a lot of what you experienced. Being part of many of the urban tribes has probably open our eyes to different worlds within one BIG City.
@saltspringdesign
7 ай бұрын
This is fascinating, revealing, very well made, I absolutely love the host and the subject matter. This is an important sociological record, as educational as it is entertaining. The human race are extremely colourful and creative but that’s not all. We are also violent, destructive, egotistical, self-centred, irrational and crazy sometimes. Watching this re-enforces my own pre-disposition to eschew tribalism and be a lone wolf, a man with no pre-set system of belief, no uniform to identify me as a member of social sub-culture or economic class, free of the prevailing cultural paradigms and beholden to no one. To any realistic, rational, well educated person Catholicism is whack and has an atrocious history. I do like some of the music and architecture, however that has come for Catholicism but all of that does not come close to countering the pain, torture, rape and confusion on the people of South and Central American. The blending and blurring of the more ancient animistic and polytheistic religions with the newer Catholicism is very interesting from a sociological perspective also. The familia aspect is understandable, given the nature of human condition and the fact that many, for one reason or another, do not really have a family nurturing and protecting them. I feel blessed for mine for sure and I suppose a family IS a sort of tribe, some more than others. It’s complicated.
@book_cake4
8 ай бұрын
Kissing in the cheek is common when people know eachother, but with stragers, not so much. I know for a fact that they felt affection and it was nice that you did that.
@Serpiente007
2 ай бұрын
Salvador Dalí, once said “I will not go back to Mexico because I cannot stand to be in a country that is more surrealist than my paintings.”
@SilverioRamirez-d7n
6 күн бұрын
I like that.
@diegomsvn
8 ай бұрын
Im finding out this videos and I have to say youre really amazing for doing this im from Mexico and I really enjoyed watching her explore MBFW
@DanaeCordova-p2n
6 ай бұрын
This is amaizing! i'm out here crying ´cause my country is very beautiful but it hurts the injustices we have to see everyday... the work, the sacrifice and we still find a way to express ourselfs through something artistic like our clothing
@Meeseeyou
8 ай бұрын
This video reminds me of a Spanish couple we shared an elevator with in Las Vegas at Cesar’s palace a few years back. They dressed and looked liked they have money. Not sure what they said to each other but they were giggling at my husband and I. Yeah, sure, we aren’t dressed like them but never judge a book by its cover. Time and place for everything, that’s our attitude. How does anyone know that we cannot afford a 10K purse, drive 100K car, or live in a million dollar home or two😉😉😉. Always tell my kids, always be humble, be kind to others, and count your blessings. Money can be lost in a blink of an eye but people will always remember how you treated them. My kid act the way that entitled man jerk throwing the bike off the street; I’ll be the first to kick his ass👊.
@dabsallday9938
8 ай бұрын
If you didn’t know what they were saying, how do you know that they were giggling at you and your husband?!?
@BoogieBoogsForever
8 ай бұрын
@@dabsallday9938😂 You've never interacted with people? You can tell when people glance at you and how they talk under their breath...
@BoogieBoogsForever
8 ай бұрын
Also, they were pointing. J/k 😂😂
@venomdank965
8 ай бұрын
they were maybe saying "mmm they look delicious Id like to invite them to our couples xxx group hehehehe"
@dabsallday9938
8 ай бұрын
@@BoogieBoogsForever of course I have 🤣 but I rewatched the video and you’re right.. it does look like they were talking about them..
@coleengoodell7523
8 ай бұрын
Your chosen family is oftentimes more faithful, encouraging and protective than the one you were born into.
@mino3d1
8 ай бұрын
The talent of that young fashion Designer; "Rosa Pistolas" is so original; UNIQUE. Great documentary I really loved the way you fused with all the people ❤ your video it is SO different from other KZitemrs that they copy to each other again and again the same thing,,, Congrats ✌🏻
@Marine-sz2lf
6 ай бұрын
Hailey, this is one of the best videos I have seen about Mexico! As a Mexican living in USA, I had no idea about this type of culture in Mexico. I thank you for making this video.
@warehouserobotstudio
8 ай бұрын
Great documentary, a real dive into the true Mexico. Congrats!! I loved it
@elami2latin
3 ай бұрын
Me encanto este documental! Pensé que solo era de fashion pero no, habla de las comunicantes marginadas y como se representan con su fashion! Y si concuerdo con ella CDMX es una ciudad única! Pide conocerla e iré otra ves en octubre !
@GothGuy885
8 ай бұрын
kewl that Goth is still alive and well in Mexico. I do my part here in California 👍🤘
@MajICReiki
8 ай бұрын
Well done documentary, the interviews are respectful, lovely, intriguing and human. I appreciate the connecting the subcultures through faith and shared beliefs, culture heritage, values, and even the challenges they share in common, despite their differences.
@amisam2215
8 ай бұрын
I love your documentaries. Furthermore you are so beautiful but at the same time modest and non judgemental. This makes you and your work very likeable :)
@KukulKan-b6q
3 ай бұрын
Love how deep your documenting goes, unlike pseudo reporters
@callmec0c0
9 ай бұрын
I would be in jail in Mexico. A little rich twat bumping my bike? That money will go to face reconstruction surgery for him
@frankyymilkyy9001
6 ай бұрын
what if it's big
@swicheroo1
8 ай бұрын
Correction: That opening shot is NOT a square. It's the central artery of the city--Avenida Paseo de la Reforma--where protests happen a lot. It is NOT a traditional square.
@Alpha-Andromeda
7 ай бұрын
And also where protests don’t happen all the time. It’s a beautiful major Avenue flanked by gorgeous trees and a wide esplanade for walking leisurely and enjoying. It’s separated in sections by several important roundabouts with monuments or fountains. One of these roundabouts has the “angel of independence” a tall column with a golden winged goddess atop , which is why the protests are held there whenever people feel they want to attract attention to their cause. Very similar to Place de la Bastille in Paris, also the type of roundabout which is a favorite place to make sure the government pays attention to your cause because you’re heavily disrupting traffic.
@LaurenMarie23
9 күн бұрын
Amazing Journalist! This was so enjoyable and enlightening to watch
@etiennedegaulle3817
3 ай бұрын
Did the CDMX cab drivers stop robbing everyone? They cry about Uber but they had a reputation for decades for being extremely dangerous.
@PhantoMariGold
2 ай бұрын
It's so facinating to me that mexico still holds the separation of these subcultures and that they're continuing in their own spaces. Growing up in cali we were all blended together and now I'm some mix of emo goth who dresses mall and romanic goth and I go to punk and metal shows looking like that haha anyways all this to say it's so interesting to see them continue to evolve in their own bubbles. I hope the subcultures can learn to coexist and maybe even work toward their common goals together the way we do here.
@medavog
8 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love Mexico city punks and fashion - the food- I was there in the earthquake recently - Viva FRIDA KAHLO
8 ай бұрын
Awesome!° As I now live in Berlin, it´s quite tame to living in D.F. As I try to tell Europeans what its like they are astounded by the diversity there. I worked as a corporate business English professor so looked very normal, then underneath it all I´m Metal, Punk, Goth, & Tattooed. So was blessed to see this as most people will never see all the sides of Mexico City like this. Also I sometimes would explain to some of my "Cool" students what I did on weekends & they were shocked as gringos generally don´t go into certain neighborhoods alone to see concerts, or meet with the real sub cultures of D.F. Great Job! Gracias.
@nerval-ts5wk
8 ай бұрын
Es un exelente trabajo, cubres cosas que pocos perciben ❤ saludos de Guadalajara
@Madcats7
4 ай бұрын
Thank you Hailey for this very needed documentary. As Mexican Americans with rooted Mexican roots it's easy to forget what is happening in our neighboring sister country. You had the experience not many could ever cover. I'm thankful you were safe and that you could shed light on each group without hostility. Bottom line, we are all human, however we just choose to divide ourselves through life experiences and groups that our governments initially put us in. Even if we hated that classification which is now eradicated, we still unspokenly fall in such classes. Blessing to you Definitely will follow. Blessing to you and your crew.
@erenjaeger1738
8 ай бұрын
Bruh, seeing emo still a thing in Mexico gave me mixed feelings. It's like 2009 all over again:'(. I love they still dress like 2005-2011 style
@frankyymilkyy9001
6 ай бұрын
why should someone stop being an emo if they already are? some would stay emo forever. (disclaimer: I'm not an emo and I don't like the music)
@nomadicroadrat
8 ай бұрын
Kudos to the producers and researchers. Before reading that it was a Vice production, kept thinking this is so Vice like.
@miguelgr11
8 ай бұрын
This is one of the best docs I have ever seen! So much respect and empathy by the presenter. Awsome work!
@kittykat490
2 ай бұрын
I know it isn't that new but this series is truly some of the most refreshing journalism work, I'm really fascinated by the approach to politics and anthropology and human rights through the lens of fashion and clothing and subcultures. There were so many beautiful moments here, but I cried at the Santa Muerte segment.
@paulgoebertp
8 ай бұрын
What an informative, fun and colorful piece of work, with an excellent host. Need to watch more of her work, she relates to her interviewees as friends.
@ericksolorio3084
8 ай бұрын
Great documentary! The way Hailey connects with the awesome people of Mexico City is very great!
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