MacArthur put his foot down and won't accept anything less than than .30cal because "muh stopping power"
@scooterdogg7580
3 жыл бұрын
my thoughts exactly
@forcea1454
3 жыл бұрын
@@muhammadnursyahmi9440 6mm Lee Navy was adopted in 1895, several years before MacArthur had even joined the US Army, let alone even be in a position to seriously influence any kind of Small Ames development. Not to mention that he wasn't even in the right service in the first place, given that 6mm Lee Navy was, as the name implies, only used by the US Navy.
@surfingtothestars
3 жыл бұрын
everyone had a better BAR than the US military. Even the FBI had a better version lol
@jgjgjg739
3 жыл бұрын
It really was a shame the US military used the more older design during ww2.
@PhoenixOfArcadia
3 жыл бұрын
At least the US Military A2 BAR didn't come with a 1 time use shooter as a result of the Monitor's muzzle break.
@TheArklyte
3 жыл бұрын
FBI viewed it as automatic rifle though. Funny thing is that as shown by Project Lightening videos, US troops just suggested to make *two different* BARs - one LMG(bipod, heavier barrel) and one automatic rifle for troops(lighter, compensator, pistol grip and lowered RoF). Problem was that army compressed both into single gun that was doomed as those requirements opposed each other:(
@jacklevesque9743
3 жыл бұрын
When there's better monitors on the market lol
@Flurb_Xray
3 жыл бұрын
"Three Germans are running into a BAR"
@Cohac
3 жыл бұрын
My granddad used one of these during his training just after WWII. He even won medals for being the best shot in the regiment. Sadly, he died over a decade ago or I would show him this video.
@appalachianexploration5714
3 жыл бұрын
My grandad shot alliance nuclear holo rifles sadly he never existed or I'd show him this video
@averagedemographic8933
3 жыл бұрын
Cool, my dad was a decent shot with his issued folding stock AK. Got some time off for the best shot groups in his unit.
@IkeanCrusader1013
3 жыл бұрын
@@appalachianexploration5714 lmao
@rajath275
3 жыл бұрын
@@appalachianexploration5714 overcompensating for a lack of heritage and quality of lineage I see 🤣🤣
@ScottKenny1978
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry for your loss, Cohac. Raise a glass in his memory for me!
@kbjerke
3 жыл бұрын
That seems to me, to be the *PERFECT* BAR!! I have a Swedish AG42B, in 6.5x55 and enjoy shooting it. The cartridge is simply super nice to shoot. This version of the BAR should be considered the *ultimate* !! The operator would have felt *NO* recoil at all, even in full auto... JMHO. YMMV.
@mattjohnson7775
3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to another episode of! Another country adopts the BAR and drastically improves it! In today's episode we look at how the Swedes brought the BAR into the 20th century with a pistol grip and a magazine capacity over 20 rounds!
@borjesvensson8661
3 жыл бұрын
Sadly never got mags bigger than 20 rounds as far as i know.
@HasturT
3 жыл бұрын
@@borjesvensson8661 They made a belt-fed version of the m/37 as well.
@delticcrusader4002
3 жыл бұрын
Every time Ian does something Swedish I always think he wouldn't look out of place in Sabaton. XD
@rickterrance4981
6 ай бұрын
Man that thing is in fabulous condition for it being 100 years old. You can tell its never been refinished but still looks amazing thats a hell of a collector piece.
@arthurbrax6561
9 ай бұрын
I hope Ian is able to get his hands on the upgraded Swedish BAR that has a quick change barrel.
@charlesinglin
3 жыл бұрын
One really has to wonder just how insular the US Army was in the interwar years not to recognize what could be done with the BAR.
@alphaomega2937
3 жыл бұрын
Not just the bar but many times in history the us military goes by what it wants vs what's best
@highjumpstudios2384
3 жыл бұрын
The answer? Very.
@lavrentivs9891
3 жыл бұрын
I side effect of turning insular and withdrawing from the international community.
@gustavjohansson8562
3 жыл бұрын
I like when you pronounce Swedish words.
@IrishTechnicalThinker
3 жыл бұрын
They made the Boffors 40mm, unbelievable designing country for firearms.
@thegoldencaulk2742
3 жыл бұрын
A shame you weren't able to take this out to the range, I bet it's a real sweet shooter.
@paladynwiecznegostazuzkraj75
3 жыл бұрын
I think Ian needs to make a tier list of BAR's. Would be cool to see it
@Mij1965
3 жыл бұрын
P is actually Semi (Patronvis eld). A is auto.
@simon8242
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I was wondering what "P" meant and I was pretty sure it didn't mean full auto
@bengtgronlund9447
3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact Ian. The FN MAG58 is basically a beltfed up side down Swedish KG M37 (Since the KG37 has a replaceable barrel that is replaced in the same way as the MAG 58 barrel) One may even wonder if FN actually took the construction from the Swedish KG37. I use to say that a MAG58 is a MG/34/42 lidded with a upside down KG M37 mechanism and barrel
@puppetguy8726
3 жыл бұрын
FN had designed the FN model D, a gun which the m/37 was largely based off of. So I think FN had a look at their own model D. Another fun fact: Sweden experimented with converting the m/37 to belt feed, which worked reasonably well actually but was not adopted for service.
@bengtgronlund9447
3 жыл бұрын
@@puppetguy8726 yes, I think there is one at gevärsfaktoriet in Eskilstuna.
@christ4032
3 жыл бұрын
Ah if only I lived in a world where I was able to swap my grips out on my multiple BAR's....
@Joshua_N-A
3 жыл бұрын
The Colt Monitor?
@rich7787
3 жыл бұрын
I would like to live in said world with you my friend
@timbaskett6299
3 жыл бұрын
You had me at 6.5x55mm!!!! I bet this is a sweet shooter!!! A heavy firearm with a light recoiling caliber......Win, WIN!!!!!
@milergrzegorz
3 жыл бұрын
In Polish BAR video you said that FN did not have rights to sell license for BAR. And here you said that they did. More importantly Swedish adopted BAR before Poland. So it would be nice if you clarified this matter. You also said that France also wanted to produce BAR on license but Colt did not agree so instead they designed their own machine gun. Great channel I subscribe it for over 5 years now!!!
@meanmanturbo
3 жыл бұрын
There were also Swedish experiments during ww2 in making the m/37 belt fed. It worked but was never adopted. One issue was that every time you cleard the weapon four cartridges would drop to the ground.
@bwcdevices3028
3 жыл бұрын
Last Time I was this early I had an SLR on my shoulder
@christianweibrecht6555
3 жыл бұрын
Did you land at school or pochinki?
@matthewadamson2699
3 жыл бұрын
The pistol grip was a nice touch
@shatbad2960
3 жыл бұрын
Ahead of its time.
@Joshua_N-A
3 жыл бұрын
Like the Colt Monitor.
@craigsteinkamp12
3 жыл бұрын
So a pistol grip and a a curved magazine? This must have been way more dangerous than the original model, definitely an “assault weapon”. In all seriousness, I love the lines of Browning designs.
@oobee123
3 жыл бұрын
And superior caliber
@ShamblesDoctor
3 жыл бұрын
Cool variant, hadn't seen this one before
@reaperov6016
3 жыл бұрын
As someone who lives in Ogden, Utah(John Browning's hometown) I have a slight obsession with his guns. His Family has a museum here with tons of his very early prototype semi-autos
@CandidZulu
3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps Sweden adopts good guns early out of habit, the m39 (WaltherP38) is another example. In fact it was so early they almost didn't receive any, but it was adopted. And it was the best pistol at that time.
@Niinsa62
3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know we had the BAR in Sweden. Really interesting!
@JohnWick-yu6je
3 жыл бұрын
The Swedes know their shit! The Swedish K is still a legend among firearms.
@CountryRock2k1
3 жыл бұрын
That must be a dream to shoot in 6.5x55.
@mattias969
10 ай бұрын
This is still an amazing weapon it is absolutely very viable in a modern combat situation.
@mattiasdahl9072
3 жыл бұрын
Wishing it would be possible to own one. So cool it's in my favourite calibre 6.5×55 swed as well.
@puppetguy8726
3 жыл бұрын
You can get a collector's license and get one. (Assuming you are also Swedish)
@ossian6277
3 жыл бұрын
2:13 that caught me off guard
@brandonlittle6444
3 жыл бұрын
There are 2 KG/37s in the US. I can e-mail you, if interested. Curved mags were also available for the .303 British chambering, as well as 7.63 Argentine used by South American Colt contract guns. Extended magazines - 30/40, are also curved at the bottom end. Any trigger group that has a slight relief near the magazine release can use curved magazines, which include most Colt guns. Commercial, or contract. All trigger groups can use straight magazines. I have a spare front sight for the purchaser of this gun, if interested.
@johanrunfeldt7174
3 жыл бұрын
We Swedes aren't a very nationalistic or even patriotic people, but sometimes I can't help to be a little proud to be a Swede. Thanks for the nice words, Ian. "Better than the US WW2 versions of the BAR".
@faderneslandet3489
3 жыл бұрын
That is strange, because last time I checked the Swedes are pretty patriotic considering they want to see a national conservative government in 2022 that have majority. What you probably meant to write is the Swedes are patriotic, but socialists aren't. ;)
@scottbuckley6578
3 жыл бұрын
Wow that rifle is huge
@wotnograpefruit
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the discussion of the M/37 at the end. I was wondering whether it would have been possible to convert an existing BAR with a fixed barrel to a detachable barrel setup. Good to know that you can because Sweden actually did that.
@GeorgiaBoy1961
3 жыл бұрын
FN of Belgium also tried marketing a BAR rechambered in 7.62x51 - this was around the 1950s, if memory serves - which also had a QD barrel feature, as well as a pistol grip and some other modern features. Unfortunately, they had few takers so it was discontinued.
@brandonrenner9597
3 жыл бұрын
Now this I'd love to have
@vthegoose
3 жыл бұрын
Oh boy, what does Ian have today that I’ll never afford?
@justinmoe3171
2 жыл бұрын
If I wanted a fictional, period correct, character armed with a cool gun, I’d give them this. Actually effective, while maintaining a cool aesthetic
@EchoCharlie1361
3 жыл бұрын
The extra safety button is more likely there because if you ski with the machine gun the safety is towards the body and is easily bumped. Skiing with a M240 or FN Minimi is a pain because of the button safety. In the latter cases you just don't put the in the feed tray unless danger is imminent.
@Dekko-chan
3 жыл бұрын
6:02 Almost REALLY hurt yourself. Almost slammed the bipod leg onto your hand.
@werewally3156
3 жыл бұрын
The safety has a safety. That's pretty safe.
@trekaddict
3 жыл бұрын
Looking at it with better than a century of hindsight, what the BAR tried to be was an Assault rifle, what people wanted the BAR to be was a light machine gun, and between those two differences of what was wanted, the version the US Army got emerged. The Poles, Swedes and the Belgians compromised the former towards the latter.
@borjesvensson8661
3 жыл бұрын
The BAR seems to be an Assault rifle designed for 7 feet Blacksmiths!
@toodankee4330
3 жыл бұрын
Bro that magazines looks cursed and cool as hell looking
@sandych33ks1
3 жыл бұрын
Wow, I wish Grandpa hid one in the basement.. No luck here, but a great video.
@Mrmghz1
3 жыл бұрын
my man, love your vids, thank you
@dksdg
3 жыл бұрын
Swedes always seem to have the best small arms
@bradcump4242
3 жыл бұрын
A bar in 65.55 so cool it a great round to shoot all a round hunting round
@42TRGSako
3 жыл бұрын
Would love to hear you opinions on shooting this. Doubt you were able to if the thing has a .30-06 barrel. Curious on what the recoil would feel like in 6.5x55mm.
@whackycracker1987
3 жыл бұрын
ive been waiting for something like this a long time!
@edm240b9
3 жыл бұрын
You got all the production BARs. However, there is an experimental .303 BAR invented in 1919. Don’t know if it’s still around, but one did exist.
@ketchman8299
3 жыл бұрын
Would love to shoot one in 6.5x55!
@oloflarsson7629
3 жыл бұрын
I seem to recall that there where changes made between the original M1918 and the M1918A2, that made the gun much easier to disasemble. Where these changes also introduced on the non US versions, and in that case which versions?
@hschan5976
3 жыл бұрын
How did they convert the standard BARs receivers and barrels to 6.5mm caliber?
@FFGANDALF
3 жыл бұрын
Why were they able to apparently easily get domestic production when Poland couldn’t partially due to lack of metric drawings? Partially rights issues?
@jrooney58
3 жыл бұрын
Back when you did the Polish BAR video, you mentioned that there was quite the SNAFU with the Poles getting the technical data package. Was there anything similar regarding the Swedes? If not, why did the situation occur years later with the Poles?
@Omnihil777
3 жыл бұрын
A joke: 2 germans walk into a BAR.
@jussipulkkinen5349
3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Do you have any data on swedish belt fed BAR prototype? Kulsputegevär m/1937
@gunmasterdude
3 жыл бұрын
Swedish alway has the OP stuff.
@BobSmith-dk8nw
9 ай бұрын
Ah ... a BAR video I haven't posted my rant in ... Of course - the BAR being an *_AUTOMATIC RIFLE_* and NOT a machine gun ... a lot of people sure did like John Moses Browning's Assault Weapon ... The BEST version of which was the Original M1918 - which did not have a stupid bipod. As always - those who knew what they were doing with this weapon - took the bipod off to save weight - and used it as the Assault Weapon it was. If they really wanted a Magazine Fed Machine Gun - they had a top feeder with a 30 round magazine. Of course ... if they _really_ knew what they were doing - they would be using a BELT FED machine gun like an MG-34 or 42. Not that you couldn't use an M1919 in the assault ... if you knew what you were doing ... kzitem.info/news/bejne/24WHtp17pn55nXo&pp=ygUXbWVyY2VuYXJpZXMgLSBjb25nbyAnNjQ%3D .
@SteamboatW
3 жыл бұрын
Well, the Crowned C is the mark for the "Carl Gustav Stads Gevärsfaktori" not the royal family. You can see that on weapons like the carbine bayonett. Some have the crowned C for Carl Gustav Stads Gevärsfaktori and others have the Anchor for Enköpings faktori.
@brittakriep2938
3 жыл бұрын
Without knowing swedish language, i , Brittas boyfriend, can clearly recognize, that the factories name is in german , Staatliche Gewehrmanufaktur Carl Gustav'. Another example for language similarities!
@SteamboatW
3 жыл бұрын
@@brittakriep2938 Except that "stad" is city and not "state". "Carl Gustav Stad" is a geographical place.
@brittakriep2938
3 жыл бұрын
@@SteamboatW : This is Stadt in german. I thought it means Staat. I did not know this swedish town. Was it founded by a king Carl Gustav? Not far away from my village is the town Ludwigsburg, which was founded arround 1700 a Duke ,Ludwig von Württemberg' as a new capital, which it was only few years.
@SteamboatW
3 жыл бұрын
@@brittakriep2938 Yes, in 1654. (Karl X Gustav) The city later changed name to Eskilstuna, but the factory kept it's name. de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskilstuna
@jaymeseaston8117
3 жыл бұрын
Ian, as I was watching this I wondered if the BAR was ever tried as an intentional sniper rifle with improved sights or scope, a fresh barrel and match grade ammunition. Other than it's weight what other factors would weigh against it? Open bolt action? I know the BAR was used in a suppression counter-sniper role.
@pernykvist3442
Жыл бұрын
This is the first time i se this riffle! Is it an AR or machine Gun? Today we using AK5 a borrowed ide! from another AR/AK FN Fal. Our army want our infantry to mainly focus on sharp shoting then burst fire.
@freddywarren69
3 жыл бұрын
Amazing.
@jankusthegreat9233
3 жыл бұрын
Better in every way
@ejharbet6390
3 жыл бұрын
Love the 6.5x55 and in this itd be a excellent piece of leave me the eff alone
@zXPeterz14
3 жыл бұрын
Didnt the swedes also make a belt fed version, or at least some prototypes
@tomeng9520
3 жыл бұрын
Swedish m/21 BAR in 6.5x55mm i want one.
@jacob9229
3 жыл бұрын
These guns saw limited use in the Winter and the Continuation war by the Finns.
@jonadolfsson7777
2 ай бұрын
Who decides to change a 6,5x55 barrel for a 30-06? Wow! (I understand ammo availability but by now there should be no shortage of the swede in the US?)
@JACKSONLEWISOFCANADA
3 жыл бұрын
the mag or the mg3....... still pretty much gold standard....
@F1ghteR41
3 жыл бұрын
1:00 The Chauchat wasn't really an option for anyone save for those who got it given by the French. The real third option was the Madsen (Schouboe) LMG. 1:04 With 20-round mags it certianly wasn't the best of them by any stretch of imagination. This byproduct of autorifle mentality embodied by CSRG Mle 1915 and M1918 shouldn't be ignored, and in all fairness it should serve as a significant discriminating factor against them when compared to proper LMGs like Lewis and Madsen (Schouboe) designs. 7:53 I would definitely not use the word 'fantastic' when talking about these mechanical abominations.
@am17frans
3 жыл бұрын
Dang, I so looked forward to hearing what it was like shooting a Swedish BAR in 6,5, only to hear it was made to shoot yankee ammo.
@Sanix900
3 жыл бұрын
703? were they afraid of even numbers?
@lucajohnen6719
3 жыл бұрын
BAR being a better lmg then the Lewis? Those are them fighting words. Though, given how many people adopted the Lewis post war compared to the BAR..... Maybe. But I stand by my point that the BAR was never designed as a light machine gun and only worked mediocre as one
@tredbobek
3 жыл бұрын
I'm no soldier or weapon expert, so can someone answer me this: Why are low capacity LMGs (especially in WW2, but even today, like the RPK with normal mags) are used/good? With a BAR or Bren LMG you constantly have to reload after 20/30 rounds, which limits your ability to surpress. Why not use belt fed guns, similar to the MG34?
@antongrahn1499
3 жыл бұрын
Diffrent solutions for diffrent tasks. Beldfed is great for stationary fire, but the BAR was supposed to be mobile assualt weapon. The reason bars always used 20 rnd mags is weight, the thing weighs twice that of a garand already. The americans had the 1919 Mg that was beltfed. There are no perfect solutions.
@hjorturerlend
3 жыл бұрын
Because it's easier to carry lots of magazines than belts and the reloads on the top-fed guns are so fast that the belt feds don't offer all that much more firepower in practice. Your argument would apply to the BAR tho, as its reloads are quite slow from prone.
@georgesheffield1580
9 ай бұрын
Sometime the old general desig ns or tactics for the previous war and they dont work forthe next war.
@whitecollar4life
3 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@Lindeman08
3 жыл бұрын
Finally!
@loganosmolinski4446
3 жыл бұрын
Mandatory interaction
@Rickster621
Жыл бұрын
Sweden designing the Sig Spear before the second world war
@itildude
3 жыл бұрын
That safety block is one of the worst ideas I've ever seen. Also as a law of unintended consequences it is probably would have made it so soldiers would never be on safe in the field.
@alexanderovergard6080
3 жыл бұрын
Mor videos Swedish guns
@bulukacarlos3571
3 жыл бұрын
Nice version of BAR. Was this one of the first weapons with a curved magazine?
@borjesvensson8661
3 жыл бұрын
At least the madsen was earlier, it had a curved magazine before it had a mag spring! The ww1 german aircraft gun magazines and trenchmags were curved too
@bulukacarlos3571
3 жыл бұрын
@@borjesvensson8661 Thanks for the answer,!!. Actually I expressed myself wrong, since the machine guns that you mention have the upper magazine and I wanted to ask for curved bottom magazine, I remember that the Chauchat has a curved bottom magazine (actually semi circular) but I don't remember a weapon prior to this BAR with the "modern" curved magazine like Ak-47. Greetings from Argentina.
@borjesvensson8661
3 жыл бұрын
@@bulukacarlos3571 Greetings. The mauser trench mag is bottom feeding but not detatchable. I think the fedorov avtomats mag is curved, bottom feeding and detachable though. But a straight mag is always easier to manufacture than a curved one and fits better in pouches so as long as they could get away with straight ones no need for curved ones.
@bulukacarlos3571
3 жыл бұрын
@@borjesvensson8661 The Federov !!!, I had forgotten about it. Thanks
@HebrewHammerArmsCo
3 жыл бұрын
Why didnt you check out Norways Arms Museum.. ?
@thatjimboguy5005
3 жыл бұрын
Those Swedes!
@super00su
3 жыл бұрын
If they had used a intermediate caliber, this would have been a assault weapon.
@knowwearneresquare3177
3 жыл бұрын
Dreams do come true
@jan-olofharnvall8760
3 жыл бұрын
I’m proud to say that I have fired this rifle once when I was a teen in the late 70’s🤓🇸🇪
@John-un3lj
3 жыл бұрын
H E M V Ä R N
@jan-olofharnvall8760
3 жыл бұрын
Nop🤓
@John-un3lj
3 жыл бұрын
@@jan-olofharnvall8760 Vafalls?! Vart låg du inne någonstans?
@Rasbiff
3 жыл бұрын
@@John-un3lj Gissar att han var på någon sånhärade utbildning för ungdomar som inte får göra lumpen än?
@John-un3lj
3 жыл бұрын
@@Rasbiff Måhända att så är fallet. Jag har svårt att tro att något reguljärt förband fortfarande låg inne med 6'o en halva vid den tiden. Men jag kan ha fel!
@Locitus
3 жыл бұрын
The P on the selector is for semi-auto and stands for "Patronvis".
@gustavchambert7072
3 жыл бұрын
Which makes me think Ian has the settings wrong. He designates P, "patronvis", as full auto. The issue is that "patronvis" means, literally, either "by the cartridge" or "single cartridge", which is kind of a weird name for full auto. Especially since A almost certainly stands for "Automat" or some version of the word.
@kliegl8613
3 жыл бұрын
It also makes sense that the full auto position, unlike the AR platform, should be in the middle, like the AK. Full auto is heavily wasteful and, if one is panicky to get the gun running, slamming the safety forward to fire will land you in semi auto, which you will want to be in 99% of the time over full auto.
@mr.F.Castle
Ай бұрын
Haha verkligen?
@Abby_Normal_1969
3 жыл бұрын
I had an opportunity to fire a Swedish Mauser in 6.5x55, oh nearly 35 years ago. What a sweet round. I can only imagine how well the synergy between the BAR and Swedish 6.5 is.
@jeremyroberts4595
3 жыл бұрын
I have an AG42B, I love it! 6.5 swede is such a great round. I swear it has about a much recoil as my AR.
@faderthurfjell
2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremyroberts4595 Yep, 6.5x55 is a beast of a caliber. I have a competition rifle (FSR89) built in 1989, based off of an m/96 built in 1912 (if I remember correctly). My friends who fired this rifle at the long range part of our shooting range preferred it to my modern long range rifle chambered in .308 even though it has a massive muzzle brake (the Vertebrae one). The FSR89 uses diopter sights and I basically shoot as well with it as with my modern long range rifle.
@Rasbiff
3 жыл бұрын
Nitty picky detail: The monogram at 4:12 is not for the Swedish Royal house per se, but that of the city "Carl Gustaf's Stad" (other name for the city today known as Eskilstuna, and the city that gave the factory its name) - the city name ITSELF is taken from the king Carl X Gustaf (r.1655-1660). The monogram is a stylization of a mongram (showing a C enveloping a G) Carl X Gustaf used back in the 1600's. So 1600's King -> City -> Rifle factory.
@videofalconry9886
3 жыл бұрын
We love nit picky details here at Forgotten Weapons.
@meme-ek2hc
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, thank you for the extra detail
@johncashwell1024
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, we are all about the "nit picky" details here; it's why Forgottenweapons is.
@lavrentivs9891
3 жыл бұрын
*Arms factory. Gevär only recently came to mean "rifle", previously it refers to arms in general. A sword for example would be refered to as a "sidogevär" (similair to "side arm" in english). I believe, but am not certain, that the german "gewehr" has a similair double meaning.
@bjornkron1537
3 жыл бұрын
@@lavrentivs9891 Gevär and Gewehr are the same word basically. The important bit of the word is "Wehr". In both Swedish and Germans I translate into defense/protection. Words for things invented or made publicly available in the 1500´s usually has very similar names in Swedish and german, due to the wars and trading in the Baltic. AND! the Swedish word, "värja" can mean both "deflect" and "Smallsword" (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_sword) again "vär" is the important bit.
@pattab2779
3 жыл бұрын
My grandfather used one these machine guns when he was deployed to Hanko during The continuation war. Thank you for This video
@FORDboy357
3 жыл бұрын
Good gun in an even better caliber
@petrimakela5978
3 жыл бұрын
These guns actually saw combat use in the Finnish Winter War 1939-40 with the Swedish volunteers and in the Finnish hands (mainly coastal troops) during the continuation war 1941-44. Not in great numbers, as Russians were kind enough to supply Finns with thousands of DP-28:s.
@4Leka
3 жыл бұрын
Apparently the Swedish BAR also saw service against the Russians in Finland between 1941-1944.
@ulvschmidt7174
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah we sent a lot of stuff there partially too help our brothers and partially becouse we really didnt want a la d border with russia
@andersmalmgren6528
3 жыл бұрын
And they made good use of them, dont Fuck with the Finnish they bite back hard
@mikeblair2594
3 жыл бұрын
@@ulvschmidt7174 Sent on the sly you mean. Got to protect your neutrality.
@ulvschmidt7174
3 жыл бұрын
@@mikeblair2594 we did send them unmarked but that is a common missconception we where NOT neutral in the winter war neither officialy or unnoficialy we were a " non waring party" but weren't neutral.
@HasturT
3 жыл бұрын
@@mikeblair2594 Sweden was not neutral in that conflict. We were non-combatants but allied with the Finns.
@mrfancypanzer549
3 жыл бұрын
Always thought the Swedish BAR was the most ideal, fairly mild recoiling cartridge, pistol grip and later a quick change barrel.
@daedalus6433
3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, at the time, people could handle the recoil of .30-06.
@mrfancypanzer549
3 жыл бұрын
@@daedalus6433 I was thinking more about the fact that 6.5x55 would be more controllable in full auto than other contemporary cartridges.
@daedalus6433
3 жыл бұрын
@@mrfancypanzer549 Sure, but again, soldiers during both WWI and WWII tended to have a better physique than modern soldiers do, and the Stg 44 being chambered in 7.92x33mm is a good example of this.
@hjorturerlend
3 жыл бұрын
@@daedalus6433 Uh, no they didn't and the 7.92x33mm is roughly equivalent to .300 Blackout, it was picked exactly because it was low recoil.
@BigSwede7403
3 жыл бұрын
@@daedalus6433 To be even fairer, the 6.5X55 has been used for decades to hunt moose, which are quite a lot bigger and tougher than a human. And that without the nasty kick of of the "full sized" rounds like 30-06 or 7.92. To be fairer still, most people "handled" the heavier recoils because that is what they got, and refusing to use your weapon landed you in jail, if you were lucky.
@fatkling
3 жыл бұрын
I am pretty sure the P stands for Patronvis which means single fire and A means Automat which is the same as in English. So sorry Ian but i think you were wrong here! Thanks alot for the great video from a gun nut swede.
@noezringstad5584
3 жыл бұрын
Searched through half of the WWW for what it could stand for and got nothing.. Thank you!!
@linusdn2777
3 жыл бұрын
Would love a video comparing AK5 C and D to the FN FNC
@RealCadde
3 жыл бұрын
And what differences would you expect to see aside from: - Bigger trigger guard for use with gloves - Larger/beefier charging handle for use with gloves - Modified gas block and bolt for use with gloves... Err i meant winter. - Painted in corrosive resistant green rather than black for use with gloves... Err wet muddy cold saltwater fed coastal winters.
@andersmalmgren6528
3 жыл бұрын
@@RealCadde ak5c låser ju slutstycket vid tomt magg det gör inte FN FNC.
@RealCadde
3 жыл бұрын
@@andersmalmgren6528 OK, there are probably some other details but iono, most of them are pretty small details in the end. But now i am having an opinion on the internet and that's not allowed. ;)
@andersmalmgren6528
3 жыл бұрын
@@RealCadde bolt catch is a pretty big change though ;)
@lavrentivs9891
3 жыл бұрын
@@RealCadde What they told us in the army was that the AK 5 (A, this was in 00/01) also had a better firing pin, as the first rifles, ca 1986, still had belgian firing pins that cracked on occasion. Luckily my rifle was from 1987 and was all swedish.^^
@williamabrahamsson2945
3 жыл бұрын
@Forgotten Weapons Are you sure you got the safety right ? You say P stands for full auto and A for semi auto. I'm pretty sure P stands for "Punkt" as in "dot [fire]", single fire and A stands for "Automat [fire]", as in automatic fire. And S ofcorse stands for "Säkrad" as in "safe/secured".
@John-un3lj
3 жыл бұрын
Alternativt 'patronvis' - eller?
@Davvisth
3 жыл бұрын
I think the P is for "Patronvis" which basically means semi-auto or "one cartridge at the time".
@williamabrahamsson2945
3 жыл бұрын
@@John-un3ljNej, den korrekta militära termen, iaf. för tiden är/var "punkteld". Vilket även kunde ropas ut som en order.
@saruwarti
3 жыл бұрын
Correct, S=säkrad (safe) p=patronvis(semi automatic or directly translate cartridge-by-fire)A=automateld (fully automatic/fullauto). Ian also on his own website has the soldier Manuel for the army for equipment 1951 edition ( www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/Swedish/Soldatinstruktion%20for%20Armen%20(Swedish,%201951).pdf) on page 23 pargraf 242 in swedish talks about the M/21 selector switch which direct translation is; When the selector switch is on A (automatic fire), the trigger rod is kept in a horizontal position by the trigger link when firing, as long as the trigger is held back. the frame piece is not hooked up. When the selector switch is on P (cartridge-by-fire), the trigger rod is moved in a horizontal position when firing, after which the trigger link releases its grip. the spring of the trigger rod then presses the clamping teeth upwards, so that the frame piece is hooked up again. When the selector switch is on S (safe), the trigger cannot be moved backwards, so firing is impossible.
@williamabrahamsson2945
3 жыл бұрын
@@Davvisth Read my answer to John.
@nikik5567
3 жыл бұрын
TLDR: Sweden managed to improve yet another good gun that was already good to begin with.
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