My Dad, who started work as an engine cleaner on the GWR in 1930, became a driving tutor on Warships, Westerns and Hymeks at the start of the introduction of those three classes. I still have driving instructions and fault finding manuals for various sub groups of the Warships.
@firetruck988
8 ай бұрын
you should scan and upload those, the internet will love you for it
@pizzaplanettruck9761
Жыл бұрын
One additional fact worth mentioning is that a diesel-hydraulic, Class 52 No. D1015 "Western Champion", got to pull the funeral train of Winston Churchill on the return trip. This, together with the Western Farewell, saved five of the seven preserved Westerns.
@Rog5446
Жыл бұрын
The Hymeks were certainly the best performers, despite being of a lower power output. To put it bluntly, they were put on workings that required a more powerful unit and thrashed. However, they took the thrashings and delivered a performance that could only be expected of a Western class.
@fuzzwork
Жыл бұрын
The best looking and the most interesting BR Diesel, IMO
@BJHolloway1
Жыл бұрын
It is clear why there are no longer any British locomotive manufacturers left in the UK. It is not because of the lack of competent engineers but political interference. These diesel hydraulics locos in the UK were obviously retired too early due to the choice to of diesel electric. A strategy employed to try to shore up the UK suppliers. It should be noted that the final design in Germany the V218 began service mid-to late 1960s still can be seen on mainline IRE and RE services today some 60 years later. The Germans seem to know how to build railway equipment, after all the HST eventually relied on their competence.
@countottovanshanoo822
Жыл бұрын
Whilst a fan of the hydraulics, their early demise was due in a large part to lack of ETH ("non standard"), often overlooked.
@chrislaarman7532
Жыл бұрын
Not only the class 218 is still in use in Germany. Several class 220 (original V200) are in use with private operators, and even most of the class 221 (upgraded version of the V200) that had been recovered from Greece have been refurbished and put into service by the privates (like track maintenance companies). There is at least one video (trailer of a DVD) of this refurbishment here on KZitem ("The Train TV" channel, I think, in German).
@countottovanshanoo822
Жыл бұрын
@@chrislaarman7532 ".... in the UK"
@highdownmartin
Жыл бұрын
We still have crompton EE type threes and Brush fours and some EEType ones as well I believe. They are old to ancient. A situation caused by lack of investment in our railways, brilliant resilient design and privatisation.
@drstrangelove4998
9 ай бұрын
Sadly true.
@simonbradshaw3708
Жыл бұрын
Sadly a baby warship (class 22) was due to be saved but was accidentally cut up by Swindon works. A project to build a new class 22 has sadly failed and I'm not sure what will happen to the North British power unit. Thanks for another really enjoyed video.
@WestRail642fan
Жыл бұрын
how do you accidentally scrap a loco?
@dominicjackson2498
Жыл бұрын
@@WestRail642fan Communications breakdown. D6319 was sold for preservation but was scrapped by Swindon who hadn’t got the message before the new owners could retrieve their purchase. A duly embarrassed BR offered a choice of the remaining Warships for the same price which is how D821 came to be preserved.
@doddyvanstraaten2774
Жыл бұрын
I seem to remember the Scottish engine is going into a class 26 or 27 locomotive.
@HarryJamesBooks
Жыл бұрын
@@dominicjackson2498 Poor Britain, always the victim... we actually got more than a third more Marshall Plan money than Germany. Germany used it wisely - and they had way more they needed to spend the smaller amount on - while ours went..... Good question... where did it all go?
@simonp1970
Жыл бұрын
The project hasn't failed, it is alive and well...
@stevecooksley
Жыл бұрын
I wonder if anyone on the Modernisation Plan committee thought that wiring up the entire network was the best way to go, not running portable power stations.
@daniellewis1789
9 ай бұрын
Yes, but they didn't have the funds to do so.
@andrewdarley8988
4 ай бұрын
@@daniellewis1789 Exactly so. In fact when they started designing the British Rail standard steam classes the concept was that they would last for 20 years plus until all the main lines could be electrified. Then when the modernisation plan was finally released it was decided that they would have to be phased out quicker than that. This meant that some of the best steam locomotives we have had only saw a life of about 10 years then further waste from the Ill conceived scatter gun approach buying huge numbers of different deisel locomotives, most of which fell by the wayside.
@muir8009
3 ай бұрын
@@andrewdarley8988 it even sounds the "plan" for electrification was really on a nearly ad lib basis. Gerard Fiennes sounds like his big push for a fleet of deltics was because it was late in the pilot scheme era that it was learnt the East Coast wasn't to be electrified. DP1 of course being tested by both East Coast and West Coast, but nothing became of it until the non-electricification necessitated the push for squadron production. Most intriguingly, I think I've just repeated myself by altering some words with no reason whatsoever...
@sjsadler8061
Жыл бұрын
Another cracking presentation from one of my favourite documentary makers .... Good stuff!
@rsc9520
Жыл бұрын
I agree! Ruairidh makes the best RR documentaries! Very detailed and great delivery. Thank You.
@750VFR
Жыл бұрын
I was amazed how much German manufacture or German technology you mention at a relative short time after WW2. Then I recall, having been born just after the war a German going to my Dad's place of work about 1954 to set up a Heidelberg printing press. We were still on rations, sugar I think was the last one, so whereas we won the war we seemed to.lose the peace. As always an interesting story you tell.
@drstrangelove4998
Жыл бұрын
I remember my parents getting a food parcel from my father’s post war friends in Germany, including bananas sent to us at that time when we in London were still on ration!
@toomanyuserids
Жыл бұрын
You can thank my Marshall Plan funding parents 😁
@greatwolf5372
Жыл бұрын
@@toomanyuserids Definetely we funded the losers of the war. Japan, Germany, and now they are doing better than us😂
@ANDREWLEONARDSMITH
Жыл бұрын
Maybach Engines were used to power the Hindenburg Airship.
@bobtudbury8505
Жыл бұрын
@@toomanyuserids our marshall money was squandered b the labour party
@sski
Жыл бұрын
Well done on 100k Subs! It's work like this video right here that earned every single one. Cheers!
@RichardHorrell-w4i
Жыл бұрын
Loved the hymeks and westerns. Rode westerns up and down every Saturday in my teens in Devon. Thought they sounded best... till I Heard a deltic.
@marcusnaish3410
3 ай бұрын
word for word what i as about to write.
@DKS225
Жыл бұрын
Another desirable clip to celebrate having 100k subscribers. Congratulations Rory you deserve this.
@malthusXIII-fo3ep
Жыл бұрын
I think you have to blame Wilson and Labour for those dodgy diesel hydraulics and also for swinging Beeching's axe.
@hawkerhellfire9152
Жыл бұрын
Adrian Vaughan tells a wonderful story in one of his books of a Warship failing and its place being taken by City of Truro. That image always pops into my head when I see the Warship.
@grahamjenkins1236
Жыл бұрын
Ironically, diesel-hydraulic systems with Voith transmissions drives form the majority of the classes of the current DMU fleet.
@forrestrobin2712
6 күн бұрын
Thanks for this ! The quality of these videos is just outstanding. 👍 Truly fascinating ! The Westerns were worthy successors to the Castles and Kings. They kept the GWR heritage alive with their cast name and number plates. I like to think that Churchward, Collet and Hawksworth would have approved ❤
@EliteMaster254
Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on reaching 100k m8. I believe I speak for all of us when I say keep up the good work and we wish you all the best. Just remember to take breaks so you don’t burn out.
@spud3607
5 ай бұрын
At 31.04 the building that can be seen, through the rail bridge, spanning the river Irwell was washed away on the 26th of December 2015. Only the road bridge remains. The Waterside Pub, Summerseat., Manchester.
@lumo1001
Жыл бұрын
Fabulous commentary on a period of British Railway history. Thanks.
@richardananedickinson4812
10 ай бұрын
As a fireman at old oak common at the time of the change over at the time I personally felt that they were introduced without any proper and although nobody ever seems to mention it there were a high number of failures in the warship and western class where a steam loco was required to be called upon as a tow truck . I appreciate that there are a lot of enthusiastic people that admire this type of loco but in the cab doing 90 mph they were not a good ride
@Western-be2zs
Жыл бұрын
Its also worth noting that orders for the Hydraulic classes were done in full before the pilot locomotives and their teething problems could be rectified so instead of one locomotive being taken out of service it's the whole fleet,and the maintenance facilities weren't up to standard and BR,s cost cutting didn't help either
@bradleythomasburdentrainta366
Ай бұрын
Another thing worth worthing mentioning is the fact that two of the D600s were sent to Woodhams Scrapyard in Barry, but due to the serious move towards steam engines, they would both sadly be scrapped in 1980.
@rayaspo4893
Жыл бұрын
No begging for subscribers or likes just quality videos every time. Best channel on KZitem
@volvoolympianforever
Жыл бұрын
A great documentary on my favourite diesel locomotives of British Railways! Although I’m curious as to why the class 14s are not included in the documentary?
@1258-Eckhart
Жыл бұрын
The Westerns are to me the best looking locomotives ever, and their sound is only rivalled by the Deltics.
@Shark30006
10 ай бұрын
There was also a BR Class Lion, a diesel engine. I knew that it was supposed to be preserved but it was subsequently scrapped.
@michaelkaye9872
Жыл бұрын
Fabulous documentary
@zanelindsay1267
Жыл бұрын
A very interesting and informative critique of this facet of British railways dieselisation.
@jamesrobert994
Жыл бұрын
I’ve spent the last month or so watching train videos on loop and how much I’ve learned is amazing so thank you very much
@cmdrflake
Жыл бұрын
100,000 subscribers is excellent congratulations! In the US🇺🇸 Southern Pacific’s diesel hydraulic experiment yielded generally higher maintenance costs. They did, however, produce higher tractive effort versus conventional diesel electrics- but at the cost of higher maintenance costs.
@BuckeyeNationRailroader
Жыл бұрын
It was much more than that. Simply put the Diesel Hydraulics were not cut out for the North American Railroad work environment. Locomotives in the US are often notorious for working long hours on runs that sometimes take two to three days and travel up to over 2000 miles. The Hydraulics simply were not expected or built for this kind of work environment, and nowhere in Europe was this ever replicated. In addition to that the Diesel Hydraulic Engines that were used had more intricate moving parts increased the maintenance costs, and the different transmission system basically made them unable to be worked on in the North American railroad work environment at the time. Not only that, but the Diesel Hydraulics were proven to notoriously HATE going through Tunnels, getting so hot to the point the valvetrains often melted. It was ultimately these flaws that doomed the Hydraulic experiment in the United States, but it wouldn't be until the 1980s that the Diesel Electric was able to meet with the Hydraulics Power.
@cmdrflake
Жыл бұрын
SP assigned the hydraulics to the Central Valley out of Stockton and Bakersfield where they did relatively well. They still disappointed SP with their extra operating costs even on the DH640’s from ALCO.
@BuckeyeNationRailroader
Жыл бұрын
@cmdrflake They worked other parts of the system other thank just Bakersfield and Stockton, and even here they were not really that cut out for the North American Railroad work environment. By the time the German company was able to sort out the flaws of what the units were having, GE, EMD, and ALCO caught on to what the SP was wanting and so they offered a locomotive with none of the drawbacks of the Hydraulics. Simply put if you have ever heard of the Southern Pacific and Rio Grandes famous "Tunnel Motors" these are what essentially doomed the Hydraulic Experiment in the US
@pizzaplanettruck9761
Жыл бұрын
@@BuckeyeNationRailroader Even Russia doesn't have long trips like that?
@BuckeyeNationRailroader
Жыл бұрын
@@pizzaplanettruck9761 I would guess not
@chrislaarman7532
Жыл бұрын
Me too: congratulations on reaching 100k subscribers, and thank you for the effort and sharing! :-) It seems to me that railway companies develop a preference for "electric or hydraulic (or even mechanic)" transmissions with diesel vehicles, and (back then) "single or compound" working cylinders with steam locomotives. However, as passenger services seem to grow into multiple-units, locomotives will become more of a goods-only traction power, likely to be ordered by major operators and rent firms, forcing the markets into off-the-shelf traction. Just think of the ubiquitous Class 66. And of hybrids with diesel for the "last mile", making diesel-electric the obvious choice.
@s1914
8 ай бұрын
Your level of research and quality of your vids is outstanding!
@JacobT-1
Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on 100k Subscribers! Well deserved.
@johnmoruzzi7236
Жыл бұрын
It’s easy to criticise the development of so many different locomotive types in the 50s but just like the civil and military aircraft industry there were many established designers / manufacturers and technologies to use and it was tempting and practical to get them to produce models suited to a particular role or region. In the end there was mass conglomeration and standardisation and with aircraft we ended up with just DC-9s, A320s and 737s instead of BAC 1-111s, Tridents, Mercures, Viscounts, Vanguards, Elizabethans, Yorks, Hermes, Comets, Caravelles, …..
@hs1296
Жыл бұрын
Congrats on the 100K subs!! Love your videos!! Esp. the trains - had books on these when I was a kid and these just take me back!! ❤❤
@blatherskite9601
Жыл бұрын
What a superb, rivet-counting, presentation! Excellent! Full admiration for the level of detail that must have taken a lot of time in research.
@andrewclarke6899
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for a much-needed expos'e of the BR Modernisation Scheme with disaster following disaster, culminating in the dreaded Clayton Class 17s. How that disaster was allowed to happen - an untested locomotive from an inexperienced builder designed for a traffic that was already rapidly disappearing - without anybody going to jail is beyond me.
@tandemcompound2
Жыл бұрын
Ironic... a reliable MAN submarine diesel plonked onto an unworkable British loco and given a Royal Navy name
@auntbarbara5576
Жыл бұрын
Wonderful, thank you Rory. Aunt Barbara adores you!
@glennpowell3444
Жыл бұрын
I would imagine there were many operational issues with hydraulic seals leaking on these .Having worked myself with hydraulic machinery spare seals and hoses were massed in the spares sheds but still leave downtime when repairs are undertaken.
@Byzmax
Жыл бұрын
Outstanding work as usual.
@ritchiesiepman5511
Жыл бұрын
Congrats with 100K subs. I always enjoy your train history video's and i have a request for one. Can you make a video of the EM2 locomotives? They had an interesting career in 2 countries and 3 of the 7 locomotives still exist
@blackdog6345
11 ай бұрын
Another great video, i love the effort and attention to detail you put into these documentaries. i did have a little pointer for you though, at the start you credit the film as your own work, but i would advise putting the credit to Ruairidh MacVeigh specifically, in that case anybody could use the footage and you would still get full credit within the film itself. something to consider. thanks as always!
@robinforrest7680
Жыл бұрын
Excellent ! Love that golden ochre livery.
@geoffroberts4267
Жыл бұрын
If I understood the commentary correctly in 1957 the UK were purchasing German designed Locomotive traction from Germany. Only 12 years after the end of hostilities, Amazing....
@northernblue1093
Жыл бұрын
Excellent production.
@craigsibley8161
Жыл бұрын
Another great documentary 👍👍👍
@Andrewjg_89
Жыл бұрын
Your channel has grown so much with lots of people who have subscribed to you and you are now at 100k subscribers. Congratulations.
@simonmcowan6874
11 ай бұрын
I painted western ranger in Kidderminster paint shop with my mate, in BR blue, it's a huge job with a 4 inch brush, 15ft from the top centre to the tumble home, one starts from the bottom working as far as you can reach, the top man works down laying off into the lower level, fine enough, but it is 60 ft long! So, go for a wee, turn off the phone, and go for it.
@Hattonbank
10 ай бұрын
How long did it all take?
@simonmcowan6874
10 ай бұрын
@@Hattonbank ages, actually painting the blue took a day a side, but the prep took 2 weeks, sanding down the old blue, but beneath that the prestressed panels had up to 9mm thick filler on them, and water had got behind it, so it all had to be chipped off and refilled, that was a long job.
@simonmcowan6874
10 ай бұрын
@@Hattonbank the actual blue took 2days, but the preparation took 2 weeks, after sanding down the blue we found pockets of water behind 8mm thick filler over the stressed steel skin, that all came off, steel treated and re filled a big job. After 2 undercoats and flatting back the top coat went on. BR or rail blue paint was developed with Williamson's, to be hot sprayed, it's a very thick paint, so the heated paint or heated spray guns makes the paint runny enough to spray. The idea was thick paint wasn't designed to be varnished, so taking out an additional task. Also when the loco (and the BR carriage sets) went through the washing plants, the brushes would take off a thin layer of paint revealing a new bright colour beneath. Anyway, we didn't have that ability, so to make the paint flow, we used a little boiled linseed oil to keep the wet edge going, for the final coat we did add some varnish for a glossier finish. Hard work, made it up as we went along using our 30 years experience. Hope this helps.
@james.black981
Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on 100,000 Subscribers, its a reflection of the high quality and wide interest ranges they cover. Really appreciate the in depth look at all of them together instead of just one class here or there.
@TheHylianBatman
Жыл бұрын
Very, very interesting! The different ways people make things are so cool.
@duchygardens
7 ай бұрын
The Modernisation Plan was not ill conceived. It came at a time of great change technological innovation. Long established norms were being ripped up and a whole new world of opportunity was out there - locos that didn't need turntables, could be started at the touch of a button, and huge competition from road and bus and eventually from air. The plan tested and challenged the capabilities of British industry when Britain was broke and in decline. Although many of the locomotives designed and built were not up to the job, lessons were learned in the process. You mention the Class 20 which saw 50 years service, ditto the Class 47s. The 37s are still going. The Class 08. The AL1-AL5 electrics were the testbeds that gave us the incredible Class 86s, 87s and 90s - note that (as far as i am aware) we never imported an electric locomotive until the class 88 in 2016. Sure in hindsight things could have been done better, but if i was told the future is not the norm and all i have was a blank canvas and nothing to paint, i'd ask a number of creative people to paint that future.
@alextomahawk139
Жыл бұрын
Narration is on point!
@gritintheoyster
Жыл бұрын
Really interesting video - I've never seen these machines in the flesh but heard much about them. This put it all into context. thank you.
@AVFCAM
Жыл бұрын
Another excellent presentation.
@gargarfinks
Жыл бұрын
I remember this episode of Thomas the Tank Engine vividly. And congrats on the milestone!
@adrianrosenlund-hudson8789
11 ай бұрын
Great video!
@huwdavies6650
Жыл бұрын
Had to pause when you talked about the D6100 series. You showed footage of D6103 and thought that it's number rang a bell. I have a Hornby Model of D6103 in a later configuration with Yellow Warning panel and Headcode box.
@duncancurtis5108
Жыл бұрын
Ironic how Woodhams scrapped both NBL locos which would've been still around today.
@percyob1
Жыл бұрын
Utterly fascinating sir. Thank you
@RobSchofield
Жыл бұрын
Great! One of your best.
@grahammaund7405
Жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@britishfilmguy
Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the 100k subs fully deserved to with these intriguing videos.
@chris_3636
25 күн бұрын
It's easy to forget that steam heated coaching stock was being replaced with ETH stock, and some Class 47s, the Deltics and Class 33s were ETH fitted from new.
@amp9930
Жыл бұрын
You make the best transport documentaries on youtube, thank you. Have you considered producing one on the history of AC cars, the oldest UK car manufacturer I beleive?
@haymids
Жыл бұрын
Congrats on 100k! You well deserve it!
@Hushey
Жыл бұрын
Cool looking train
@jackmarshallD9525
Жыл бұрын
Another enjoyable video, but I am slightly disappointed that the Class 14s didn't at least get a mention.
@barnykirashi
Жыл бұрын
The MÁV M41 Csörgő is a Hungarian Diesel-Hydraulic Locomotive that's still in very frequent use today. So if you're intrested in more Diesel-Hydraulic Locomotives, then there is that.
@oldgoat5589
3 ай бұрын
What a superb design the Westerns were.
@eddherring4972
3 ай бұрын
Westerns beautiful, in fact Westerns, Warships and Hymeks are all great looking locomotives
@gregrudd6983
Жыл бұрын
I would have loved if the British loading gauge was big enough to take the Alco DL-500 while not as spectacular they were brutally reliable and could turn good turns of speed when needed and handle long grades with ease. It would be great if you could do a doco on the ALCO DL-500 As a class they were probably probably the largest single class of imported diesel locomotives in Europe before the coming of the EMD JT42-SS in the 90's.
@andrewclarke6899
10 ай бұрын
There would appear to be two reasons (at least) why BR didn't go to Alco and GM in the 1950s. The first is that the UK was suffering a balance of payments crisis in the 1950s and could not afford to import locomotives from the USA. The second is that the US companies would not allow their products to be built under license in the UK, which is strange, because both EMD and Alco locomotives were built in Australia under licence in the 1960s and many of them are still going strong.
@tomhiggins4124
Жыл бұрын
Rock on !!!!!!!!!!!.
@gainsbourg66
Жыл бұрын
Wow - a rare Ealing Broadway shot at 12.16
@quartzcyanis
Жыл бұрын
i dont know why, but i really like diesel hydraulics specifically, and i decided to make a fictional class made in Croatia called the Class 916
@Sophiebryson510
Жыл бұрын
Congrats on 100k! Hope you’ll upload to your flickr soon.
@patricklawless6597
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Highly informative.
@smudgycat6750
Жыл бұрын
And another great video, well done for 100K
@lylec7755
Жыл бұрын
Congrats on 100k subscribers
@ianr
Жыл бұрын
Well done on reaching 100k. 👏
@lukeslocomotives
Жыл бұрын
Well done on 100k!
@davemitchell9941
Жыл бұрын
In amongst all the shenanigans @ BTC, it never ceases to amaze me how they slated ol Bulleid for his advanced designs & no fear of trying to improve things for the enginemen in very trying times. Then this lot came along & couldn’t even copy effectively what the Germans succeeded in doing. In consequence they didn’t last & became non standard, themselves. Good vid presentation thank you, brought back memories of seeing these things amongst the remaining Bulleid Pacific’s @ Laira & North Rd. As an aside ol Beeching was a director of NBL & I seem to remember ol Marples had some input somewhere too. 🙂
@gregrudd6983
Жыл бұрын
NBL was a half decent steam builder. Abit not to the same quality of Beyer-Peacock which was the equal of anyone in the world. If only Beyer-Peacock could build to the US loading gauge. I am amazed Beyer-Peacock didn't try to licence the Alco 251 seeing that Alco brought a licence to use B-P Intellectual property to design and build garratts.
@alan-sk7ky
Жыл бұрын
Well done on the 100k Ruairidh 🙂
@joelightrailway2362
Жыл бұрын
Congratulations 🎉 of reaching 100K subs.
@lou626
Жыл бұрын
Love warships class 42
@K-o-R
Жыл бұрын
That cool bridge at 2:23 is the Fehmarn Sound Bridge.
@rogercook6360
Жыл бұрын
I'm really surprised that you did not cover in this video the accident involving D1007 Western Talisman on the 19th of December 1973 at Ealing just west of Paddington when 10 passengers lost their lives and 94 were injured. Had it been included it would have made an interesting addition to the history of this class of locomotive.
@petersmith4455
Жыл бұрын
hi there,very interesting video,the western was one of the finest locos ever built, regarding north british company, there was a lot of clowning around up there especialy with the class 15 and 16.if they had bothered to test all their locos on a load bank or run them on test up the lickey incline then any faults could have been ironed out
@IronAki
Жыл бұрын
0:14 i like that locomotive .
@theextremeanimator4721
Жыл бұрын
Goncrats on 100K!~
@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329
Жыл бұрын
Only 4 hymek locos are preserved one in Lancashire one on the seven valley railway and two in Somerset
@andysedgley
Жыл бұрын
Chapter Points: 0:00 Beginning 15:18: Start of the second sentence in the voiceover 😁
@daszieher
Жыл бұрын
Very nicely done 👍
@joshjones3408
9 ай бұрын
30:24 I wounder who that lady was in the shot in the green jacket....like the guy that's was In the back ground of the Beatles walking across the street....
@daystatesniper01
Жыл бұрын
Superb video but you missed out the class 14
@sheevone4359
Жыл бұрын
So we have here the story of the not so British, British diesel hydraulic locomotives.
@michaelemery5219
Жыл бұрын
My favourite western is D1048 western lady
@neilstanniland1011
Жыл бұрын
You need cool very clean oil of the correct type , correct size pipework,no pressure losses.
@craiglogistics2092
7 ай бұрын
I do like watching your documentaries but with this one you have failed to include the D9500 Class 14 of which 56 were built at Swindon Works, also known as Teddy Bears, the work that they were designed for never materialised but they found work with British Steel at Ashington and Corby
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