I agree with The Crew being on here. That was one of the first games I got getting into the hobby and was not really here for it. I really need someone to teach me Root.
@paulhamrick3943
Жыл бұрын
I think The Crew (and maybe all cooperative games) are very group dependent. The first time I tried introducing The Crew to my group it ended up just feeling kinda like an “activity”, there wasn’t much tension. Then about two years later I played it on TTS and had a blast. Then I tried it on BGA and it was the same (a blast). Then I reintroduced it to the same group, but with one person swapped out with a new person, and we have had LONG play sessions where the players are like “one more mission!”. I think you need to have people who are comfortable with each other, who hold themselves accountable and are even comfortable with a little ribbing (or in my case we literally yell at each other for messing up), and who can stick to the no table talk rule. Too much table talk RUINS the tension.
@IllBuythePopcorn
Жыл бұрын
@@paulhamrick3943 i played it with my sister's and at that time we were all new to modern board games. I'll have to give it another try on bga. I was excited to play it but wasn't working for me the few times I played it.
@paulhamrick3943
Жыл бұрын
@@IllBuythePopcorn I think it’s definitely group dependent. My group plays a lot of euchre and oh sh*t so they love trick taking games. But yeah what reignited my interest in the game was a Tabletop Simulator session that went surprisingly well.
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
Root is just delightful, but it definitely requires a group willing to replay it fairly regularly to get the most out of it. Also, hi! I’ve enjoyed watching your Oscar’s rankings and reactions. Avoiding some of the reviews for now as I still need to see the films myself, but thanks for tuning in! :)
@rolling.reggie
Жыл бұрын
“We’ve only been hating on Cascadia for a couple of months” LOL y’all really be sippin on that hatorade! Fun watch. P.S. love the podcast, as a movie and Board Game nerd it’s like It was made for me.
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha, it’ll be on next years list for suuuure, Love that! That means a ton, Reggie. Thank you so much. 💜
@kreggie891
Жыл бұрын
I think Ark Nova got it’s hype from so many people saying it was Terraforming Mars but a Zoo. Sort of what you were describing, and since Terraforming Mars is well received it was natural that people were going to jump on Ark Nova. I however, did not like Terraforming Mars and neither did my husband, so when people kept hyping Ark Nova as very similar to it, we said it was a hard pass for us. So I don’t know that Tom Vasel’s 10 rating was the full reason it gained so much popularity so quickly.
@Table.Fables
Жыл бұрын
Final Girl for me… that game had had so many rave reviews and I found it just “OK” too fiddly to setup for the amount of play time, and way too punishing
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
Ooh that’s a spicy one! I’m not big into solo but Final Girl seems universally praised. But hey… certainly means it’s a contender for being overhyped!
@malvinafis6907
Жыл бұрын
You're coming at us with all the lists. We are definitely NOT sick of you ;)
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
Shucks! Thanks so much :) we’re so glad you enjoy them!
@malvinafis6907
Жыл бұрын
@@Tablenauts despite the fact that I reaaly like The Crew... and Arnak!!
@guimauve-rose
Жыл бұрын
I agree with all the game that i got to play on this list (Vilainous, The crew, code name, arnak and 7wonders duel). I don't agree for Cascadia and akropolis, mainly because of the theme, i don't care for Akropolis. Cascadia is easier to read and simpler to teach too. At least in cascadia, objective change a bit at every games so i see a better replayability too. I do prefer Verdant to both, because of the theme and art.
@rolling.reggie
Жыл бұрын
I agree with Pauline!
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
I can certainly agree that Cascadia is a better intro game, I don’t think there’s any denying that! You’ve got a point on the variability too, but for me the last few plays have just fallen so flat. No tension, excitement, no real care for what’s happening, just taking a tile and moving on. I hope to rekindle that love for it someday! Def think verdant is better. It and calico are born incredible imo.
@JonTripp115
Жыл бұрын
Y'all rag on The Crew and Arnak so hard that they'll be on next year's Underrated Games list! 😅
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
Ha! How the turntables! 😂
@jeffarysonnentag3497
Жыл бұрын
Awesome video dudes, I'm with Max on this I suck at Root and I believed it was overrated. What it turned out to be was mostly a hard teach, long time between plays and a generally surly gaming group. I teach board games to retired folks at a FLGS weekday afternoons, we call our selves "The Geezer Gamers" ....BTW, Dominion is one of the games the geezers are ALWAYS wanting to play.
@Tjorriemorrie
Жыл бұрын
Terraforming Mars sucks
@grog3514
Жыл бұрын
Cubitos isn't overrated. No one talks about it!
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
LOL that was our thought too 😂
@xshadowscreamx
Жыл бұрын
My casual group will nit pick the wording on the cards to death, i wish they were bigger cards to fit an FAQ on them. I should just sell it, not worth the hassle.
@sergiobarboza3281
Жыл бұрын
Ark Nova it's soooo overrated. Is it good? yes, but the more I play it, the more it feels like a "jack-of-all-trades, master of none" game.
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
I really wanna play it again! Liked it a lot, but just not a game that’s gonna consistently see the table for me.
@malvinafis6907
Жыл бұрын
@@Tablenauts you wanna give it a go on BGA? I am willing to teach :)
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
@@malvinafis6907 I’d be happy to! I might remember enough to not even need a teach but I’m happy to give it a shot :)
@sonofsol2869
Жыл бұрын
Got codenames Duet and me and the Mrs played 3 games, we didn't get a single one wrong. We found it far to easy so will probably never play again
@ScytheNoire
Жыл бұрын
Your community are fools. The most over-rated game of all-time is Gloomhaven.
@FostertheMeeple
Жыл бұрын
I hate this... Cubitos??? Villainous??? WTF PEEPS haha people suck at Root - Max
@Doolin_Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
RIGHT?! Cubitos, Villainous, and Root are all BANGERS!
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha I knew it’d be a rough watch for y’all
@paulhamrick3943
Жыл бұрын
Dominion is the best deck builder and everyone who denies that is a theme-addict.
@grog3514
Жыл бұрын
lol theme addict. I think it is the best deck builder I've played. I also don't feel compelled to own it. Theme is likely the reason.
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
I suppose I need to give it a shot! That said, I’ve yet to connect with a pure deck builder. Normally i want it to have something else there too- ie: clank!, dune imperium, etc,
@925Gamers
Жыл бұрын
I think root was a targeted attack! They are coming after the games y’all love!
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
Only possible if explanation! 😂
@benlauson555
11 ай бұрын
I completely agree with 7 wonders duel- it blows my mind it is as popular as it is. My number one would be Wingspan - I think that game is very over-rated.
@jacobmccue365
Жыл бұрын
Great list! A few others to consider: Gloomhaven, Azul, Robinson Crusoe.
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
All good alternatives!
@kbzombie84
Жыл бұрын
Im in the i suck at root so i hate it group. Have tried digital version numerous times.
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
It’s a lot! No shame in not enjoying it. I mean… I disagree. But to each their own ;)
@ryanlohman4922
Жыл бұрын
I have so many of these in my collection hahaha. Terraforming mars is a must play guys!
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
Ha- hey, that just means it’s a great collection! Forget the haters 😂 Absolutely we need to! Kenny will bring his down next week.
@ChaBox998
Жыл бұрын
This is not a bad game list, but a list of good games that some people don't like. Actual bad games are not worthy of this list😂
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
@@ChaBox998 totally agreed!
@ryanlohman4922
Жыл бұрын
That’s fair. I’ve culled plenty of bad games throughout my gaming years.
@teaNgames
Жыл бұрын
Overrated is so subjective...especially for a list that includes games that are both older & new-ish. I almost feel like there should be 2 lists, 1 for older games & 1 for newer games. Some of the newer games on the list might fit better as "over-hyped" than overrated. Good games that everyone is just tired of hearing about🤷♀️
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
100%! It’s all subjective. :)
@morgaknightgames
Жыл бұрын
Haha! Arnak is one of my favorite games. Nostalgia certainly plays a part, considering some of my favorite franchises are Indiana Jones (only the first three), Tomb Raider, and Uncharted. It's also one of the first Euro style games that clicked with my brain so it'll always be pretty high.
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
Honestly the connection to Indiana Jones and uncharted may have hurt it for me. I expected more excitement and drama. :/ that said, I need to give it another shot, and with the expansion this time also. I’m so glad it works for you! :)
@morgaknightgames
Жыл бұрын
@@Tablenauts Part of what I love about the hobby is there's something for everyone!
@grog3514
Жыл бұрын
Don't you remember that one time Indiana Jones progressed up the research track at the last second to gain a resource he needed to exchange for a tile he was able to reach on his turn?
@Pengi_SMILES
Жыл бұрын
The issue with Root for me is that I think things like the COIN games (which I get will put a lot of people off) do asymmetry better. Doesn't mean Root isn't excellent but it's so highly rated. Personally I wasn't a huge fan of Terraforming Mars or Dead of Winter, both extremely highly rated when they came out. Neither are bad games of course.
@VaultBoy13
Жыл бұрын
I haven't played a COIN game. But, for me, the issue with Root is that you have to teach each player how to play a completely different game. They all interact with the same board and cards, but the level of effort to play is lower than the quality of gameplay. To me, Root just felt like a Euro engine builder with opportunities to sabotage other players' engines. Despite the asymmetry, there was nothing factions get to do that is fun or exciting.
@ivanpetrov5185
10 ай бұрын
Dead of Winter is an awesome game. As for Terraforming Mars I guess it's a great game, but I played this thing only once and I don't want to come close to it ever again. It's WAY WAY WAY WAY too complex for me. And insanely long on top of that. Dead of Winter is long, but at least you enjoy it.
@BadatBoardgames
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with Ark Nova! So overrated
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
I actually like it quite a lot! It’s just the jump to #4 all time that’s wild to me
@BadatBoardgames
Жыл бұрын
Yes! TM can’t wait to tell Toph! 😂😂😂
@KurtDepner
Жыл бұрын
Ark Nova is an amazing game but it takes some work. The more I play it, the more I like it. Definitely in my top 5 these days.
@laartwork
6 ай бұрын
Yes it is not a game that you can appreciate with a couple plays. It is an efficiency puzzle.
@lelandcheng7390
Жыл бұрын
Root is a COIN game and those aren't for everyone. It's a very fighty game, and I think most Euro game enthusiasts who don't like games where the player interaction is so in-your-face like Root aren't going to be fans of Root.
@MicroBIOS
Жыл бұрын
Arnak kicks Dune's ass a hundred times. 🤣
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
If Dune has a million fans, I’m one of them. If Dune has one fan, then I’m that one. If Dune has no fans, that means I’m dead. If the world is against Dune, I am against the world. I love Dune till my last breath.
@MicroBIOS
Жыл бұрын
@@Tablenauts LOL
@BadatBoardgames
Жыл бұрын
My wife and I don’t like codenames at all lol 😂
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
Oof! Have you tried duet?
@chrismcpherson666
Жыл бұрын
so clover fixes codenames
@chrismcpherson666
Жыл бұрын
yessssssss to 7 wonders duel. i have never understood the love.
@GGdeTOURS37
Жыл бұрын
I hate ROOT and sold it back! Yaaaark! And Terraforming Mars is the #1 for me for sure! And anybody can say anything about their own taste > I don't care at all! I won't prefer a game becaue other prefer it LOOOL never ever! So what's the use of those subjective lists? LOL
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
That’s great! They’re just for fun! I sure enjoy discussing them at least :)
@BadatBoardgames
Жыл бұрын
Agree with Lost Ruins 😅
@garytheosophilus
Жыл бұрын
Lost Ruins of Arnak, the third best FAMILY game? 😂
@JJ_TheGreat
Жыл бұрын
16:11 Terraforming Mars
@skeezaworkan
Жыл бұрын
Terraforming Mars is my top1 favourite game of all time. No questions. But Ark Nova? Just good. 7/10 in BGG rating for me.
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
Definitely excited to try out TM! Which is not something I thought I’d ever say lol. Here’s to hoping it lands for me!
@cgrice1971
Жыл бұрын
I agree 100%! TM is my favorite game and Ark Nova is a 7
@oneysnyder2116
Жыл бұрын
Agree with Cascadia. It’s fine. I just never want to play it, but would if asked. … I think Santorini is overrated. I feel like people rave about it and it’s another I find to be just okay.
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
I’m also not a big fan of Santorini, but I think it’s mostly because I suck at it 😂
@xshadowscreamx
Жыл бұрын
Barenpark
@itsGabrielaCristina
Жыл бұрын
The Crew is absolutely overrated. But I need to give it another try. I just recently played Arnak for the first time and it was fun, but not a game I have any interest in owning.
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I’d agree with both those takes. But def need to give them another shot for me too!
@ThomasHelms
Жыл бұрын
Eh, I think Root only works well when you have a dedicated group. Outside of that, it's def overrated. I think the Crew is overrated for those that like other tricktaking games; for me, who normally hate tricktaking, The Crew is the only redeeming game in the genre. Ruins of Arnak, I def feel is overrated; Dune Imperium does worker placement/deck building better. Arnak's flaw is that the temple track is just more compelling than actually adventuring out into the main board. Ark Nova has an accessible theme, but it really feels like a hodgepodge of different elements with nothing in particular standing out. On the flipside, I'm definitely a Terraforming Mars fan, but it's definitely not accessible, even less so without Prelude. It's a great game, but yeah, probably overrated.
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
All great thoughts imo! I’m definitely excited to try Terraforming Mars and see where it lands for me. Part of why gaming is so great is there’s something to appeal to everyone. We def enjoyed reacting to this list, but hope we didn’t hurt any feelings! 😅
@BadatBoardgames
Жыл бұрын
I am not a huge fan of Dominion but it did create the mechanism ish hehe. Ya I will have to many comments on this video sorry
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate it 😂
@jenniferhaar7934
Жыл бұрын
Agree on this list…but yet, I love all these games
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
That’s the best!
@BadatBoardgames
Жыл бұрын
Scout is better than the Crew
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
💯
@iamjello
Жыл бұрын
Root is overrated...Wish I didn't buy it...
@distantbabble
Жыл бұрын
For the record, this is the first video of yours I've watched. This is the weirdest overrated list I've ever seen. Cubitos? I mean, shouldn't a game be popular in order to be Overrated? 7 Wonders Duel? It's an okay game, but overrated? I guess I think of games with bloat, Maybe highly rated on BGG or something. I can understand Arc Nova and Arnak, The Crew... I guess it had it's 15 minutes. Oh well, opinions are like Love Letter, everyone's got it.
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
I mean, 7WD is top 20 on BGG, so I definitely think it can be considered overrated! I agree the Cubitos inclusion is funny 😂 Interestingly enough, I don’t own Love Letter! Thanks for watching!
@BadatBoardgames
Жыл бұрын
Don’t like cascadia either!
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
It’s pretty good, just not one I care to play anymore.
@JacobPorterLadder
Жыл бұрын
Arnak and Cubitos are too 10 games for me ...😢
@tannershort
Жыл бұрын
I know ya'll have probably heard this a million times... but I still don't get the hate for Arnak. It's a great game! Sure Dune is WAY better, I agree. But personally I wanna play both.
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
For me (Max) personally, the hate stems from it being the #3 family game of all time on BGG. I know. BGG is meaningless. But that’s still egregious to me 😂 I agree Arnak isn’t a terrible game. When we talk about how we abhor it, it’s pretty tongue in cheek and hyperbolic. That said, we do definitely prefer dune and I’m not sure there’s a situation in which I’d rather play Arnak… but that’s okay!
@tannershort
Жыл бұрын
@@Tablenauts haha yeah i feel like its becoming a bit at this point. Also agree that #3 family is crazy... i wouldn't even consider it a family game
@adukovski
Жыл бұрын
Arnak and Dune are two totally different games. I enjoy the interaction of Dune, but Arnak is another puzzle to solve. Every time I play Arnak I have to ask myself why I don't play the game more, because it is really streamlined and with different artifacts and tools that come up the game goes differently. Should it be #3 family game, I don't know, but it is definitely a family weight because of no take that element and one does not need to be an expert in the game to feel like you have accomplished something. Is it overrated? For me personally it is not, any game where when you end the game you don't feel like you haven't had the chance to win or you weren't in the driver's seat or you have accomplished something can't be overrated.
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
@@tannershort oh it’s definitely a bit. Agreed. I know others feel differently but there’s 0 chance I’d ever introduce this to my family.
@grog3514
Жыл бұрын
Arnak is a 6. It's completely fine. It's resource conversion with a tacked on deck building element so people can pretend it's more interesting than it is. It has beautiful art that surrounds the research track that everyone is focused on most of the game. It's way overrated.
@brianl6151
Жыл бұрын
So basically Arnak deserves to be on this list because you guys like Dune?? How are they still being compared when in fact they are very different, especially with their respective expansions. Arnak is excellent :)
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
Nailed it! 😂 Tbf I’ve yet to play with the Arnak expansion and have never played barebones DI- always with Ix or Immortality. That said, I have played Arnak over half a dozen times and still think it’s just alright. But hey, all good! The hate for Arnak is mostly just a hyperbolic bit at this point. I know it’s a very beloved game! :)
@tannershort
Жыл бұрын
FRACTURED SKY 👀👀
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
👀 well hello there
@BanginDRTY
Жыл бұрын
I think Dune Imperium should have been number 1!
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
I only loved this comment because i respect the boldness of admitting to the world just how wrong you are. 😂 But really, Hoo boy I’d have been so salty if it was! Wouldn’t surprise me though. Both it and Arnak are seemingly fighting each other all the time and everyone has to pick a camp… which is funny, cuz truthfully the games aren’t even that similar. But it’s a fun argument to have 😂 Thanks so much!
@BanginDRTY
Жыл бұрын
@@Tablenauts I agree they aren’t nearly as similar as people make them out to be. And to be fair, I’ve only played Dune the 1 time. I just had a bad experience with it, where every time I needed to take an action, I didn’t have a card for it and the other players kept making me discard. Sucked out all the fun of it. Like someone aggressively playing a land destruction deck in Magic, only the game lasted over an hour instead of 10 minutes :)
@peterbelcher-truss569
Жыл бұрын
Arnak is so much better than Dune Imperium. So. Much
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
You’re a day late buddy! ;)
@peterbelcher-truss569
Жыл бұрын
@@Tablenauts I watched this video yesterday and literally had to wait until today to post 🤣
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
@@peterbelcher-truss569 hahahahaha I love that 😂
@chrismcpherson666
Жыл бұрын
la la land is very good! casting my vote.
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
You’re my new favorite Chris!
@Thebrad11984
Жыл бұрын
I agreed with most of this list. I wish I remember what I had on my list when I voted 🤣 ark nova is my favorite game on this list but I get why people think it rose too quickly. The elitist hate the nouveau riche haha
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
#4 OF ALL TIME BRAD?!
@Thebrad11984
Жыл бұрын
@@Tablenauts it’s probably closer to 3 or 2. Just need gloomhaven and pandemic legacy to anger the brass people to knock them down the list
@ChadHensley
Жыл бұрын
The hate for Lost Ruins of Arnak almost makes me want to unsubscribe. I guess it's a good thing that you guys produce good content because it allows me to forgive you all this great offense. Seriously thought, it's really interesting to see this list. I disagree with some inclusions and celebrated with others. Fun to see what this particular community of gamers finds is overrated.
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
Ha! I’m thankful you can look past it ;) it’s all just fun and games - literally. Just a bit at this point. Glad you enjoyed the video Chad! Thanks so much :)
@jfducusin7186
Жыл бұрын
this is rubbish! Joke Villainous and The Crew definitely are a niche game. But its not overrated. TM is overrated though 🤣
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
Ha! The best part is that the list itself is overrated?! 😂 it’s all fun and games. Def need to try villainous and terraforming mars!
@IWasLeft2Die
Жыл бұрын
Codenames is such a good game...
@IWasLeft2Die
Жыл бұрын
..if you want to be bored and quickly mad at your friends
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
@@IWasLeft2Die LOL wow. The bait and switch!
@IWasLeft2Die
Жыл бұрын
@@Tablenauts breaking hearts is what I do for a living (Well, fixing them...but same difference)
@junyanliu3621
3 ай бұрын
Tm is much better. Ark nova in comparison sucks .
@lonniestewart8428
Жыл бұрын
Haha this list is utter rubbish! I have only heard people say they like Dune: Imperium over Arnak so how can it be overrated? Also, Code Names and Dominion are amazing at getting people into the hobby or introducing mechanics they had never tried. How does that make them overrated? I love the humor and tongue in cheek responses, but vehemently disagree with this list. All of these games have a place in the hobby and are well-regarded for good reasons.
@lonniestewart8428
Жыл бұрын
Plus Long Live Cubitos!
@Tablenauts
Жыл бұрын
I totally agree! For a game to be overrated it’s gotta be widely considered to be good, right? We’re just having a laugh! Certainly do think some of these are truly overrated personally, but it’s all subjective and I’m clearly in the minority! :)
@lonniestewart8428
Жыл бұрын
@@Tablenauts Yeah I appreciate the humor and am fine to have a dissenting opinion. People can enjoy or rag on whatever games they choose. I just know that in every comparison video Arnak is always placed below Dune. So it’s funny to see a group that clearly doesn’t enjoy Arnak call it overrated. I enjoy your content and humor so no worries. I’m just having fun ripping on this list because I see merit in pretty much all of these games in helping the hobby whether they’re “properly” rated or not.
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