Very clear instructions and rather eye-opening to someone like me who began climbing in the 70s...'Back in the day' we just carried a sling (for wrapping around flakes or for use as thread belays) or would just use the rope itself to wrap around a flake or tie into a hex then tie back into the harness waistband using a Fig of 8 on the bight with stopper. Or sometimes just clip a sling into the back of the Whillans harness using a cow-tail loop. Generally we only used one 'bomb-proof' belay anchor...this seemed sufficient and saved time...though not sure my belay on Cemetery Gates (the rope wrapped around a tiny protuberance, with me crouching as low as possible to stop it sliding off) was 'rock solid' (but it held when my second fell off and started swinging) ;-)
@rodolfodickson9500
Жыл бұрын
Probably the nicest 8 and tie off I have ever seen.....
@robertcreer8826
Жыл бұрын
Great to see a basic way to teach the hitches, thank you
@hotbeefo
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I've always been terrified of dropping my belay plate. Hopefully now I will remember the Italian hitch if it happens.
@JBMountainSkills
3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure :)
@markdougan3932
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the refresher. Neat clove hitch trick. Be good for the kids!
@JBMountainSkills
3 жыл бұрын
Pleasure!
@TheFalcos22
4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, informative and clear. Subbed.
@JBMountainSkills
4 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@wildgav
4 жыл бұрын
Nice vid I like how you do the clove hitch with crossing your hands a very easy way to do it.
@JBMountainSkills
4 жыл бұрын
It really does seem to be the nicest way to teach it.
@deangilsenan3173
2 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial JB - especially on the easy way to tie the 2 hitches. Not seen that method before. Easy to remember as I get back into climbing. Thanks.
@JBMountainSkills
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@JustinLewsader
3 жыл бұрын
This clove/Italian hitch method is AMAZING
@JBMountainSkills
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!
@mosesdouglas2240
3 жыл бұрын
I dont mean to be so offtopic but does any of you know a way to get back into an Instagram account?? I was stupid lost my password. I love any help you can offer me
@braylenzeke4269
3 жыл бұрын
@Moses Douglas instablaster :)
@williamclark9524
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent videos Jez! They helped with my recent trip to Bosigran in Cornwall! Thank you so much for sharing your skills.
@JBMountainSkills
3 жыл бұрын
That's great to hear, hope you had fun, I flipping love Bosigran!
@richardyockney7282
Жыл бұрын
The way you tie that clove hitch is amazing, new to climbing I struggled for some reason to tie it with your method first time every time thank you. Adding this to favourites I know it will be handy in the future!
@JBMountainSkills
Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped! It's a nice way of doing them :)
@lukethornton1942
4 жыл бұрын
Great video again 😀😀
@JBMountainSkills
4 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@mikekollross8810
2 жыл бұрын
I know the Italian Hitch as the Munter hitch.
@stevehumm4281
4 жыл бұрын
Morning Jez, another really clear and helpful vid...... could you do ones on guide plate and hauling? Cheers... have a good day.... stay safe.
@JBMountainSkills
4 жыл бұрын
Hauling coming tomorrow! I will do some guide plate stuff at some point...
@testboga5991
Жыл бұрын
It's called Halbmastwurf in German and that's why it's an HMS carabiner: suitable for a Halb Mastwurf Sicherung (safety).
@keithclimate
Жыл бұрын
That clove hitch method looks great, but honestly I think it's ultimately better for climbers to understand how a clove hitch is formed -- what types of loops, what direction they go, how they overlap to avoid making a mistake. For example if you are building a belay anchor and for some reason you need to do the hitch one handed on the biner, if you don't know how a clove hitch is actually formed you can easily make the mistake of creating a munter hitch or a girth hitch.
@JBMountainSkills
Жыл бұрын
I've taught pretty much all the methods over the years, this one works best for me.
@NickFoxQuixand
10 ай бұрын
I make this mistake all the time when using one hand, drives me bananas. its pretty obvious though so quickly corrected.
@marcchrys
Жыл бұрын
I keep imagining a cliff face beneath your feet..somehow just there.. in your room 😂 more seriously, is it ok to use a quick one anchor belay like this.. i.e.. you don't need to tie the other end of the dead rope - coming from your anchored clove hitch - into your harness?
@mazdnd
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Nick-B78
4 жыл бұрын
Another cool video. One question though..why do you attach the belay plate through the rope loop rather than the dedicated belay loop on the harness itself? Thanks
@JBMountainSkills
4 жыл бұрын
Cheers! Two reasons... 1. When you're belaying a second up a pitch and they weight the rope, its a bit more comfortable on you as the weight goes on to the anchors a little more directly. 2. It makes things a touch easier when escaping the system and problem solving.
@Nick-B78
4 жыл бұрын
JB Mountain Skills Ahh ok that all makes sense. I’ve not done any multipitch climbing yet. I hope to do some at some point though 😊
@sheepherd9173
2 жыл бұрын
When you’re tying off a belay device or munter with the slippery hitch, why not just tie it off with an overhand? Less work setting it up or taking it down, and arguably more secure. I’ve only ever seen it (in the states) that way.
@JBMountainSkills
2 жыл бұрын
It’s not releasable under load so could cause you issues. A slippery hitch followed by a half hitch or two is bullet proof, only takes a second or two longer and releases under load easily. That said I will sometimes use a simple over hand for a changeover on a ledge etc. Depends on the situation.
@gregorymcnally9257
Жыл бұрын
HI JB. Ive got a quick question. Ive just been renewing my slings etc. I noticed that the extenders for quick draws make it clear you cant use the extenders as slings for making belays etc. Even though they're rated the same Kn, and some of the slings are skinnier than the extenders themselves? I suppose you could use a sling as an extender if needed, but why not the other way around. Confused Manchester?
@Wulber.outdoors
Жыл бұрын
Do you tie off your Italian same way all the time. Reason for asking is depending on how you tie it there’s four possible positions the rope your going to hold on to can come out the Italian. Back of crab left or right and front of crab left or right.
@Mitzbergatc
3 жыл бұрын
Is there an easy answer to why many people say it is not recommended to tie in with a bowline knot when trad climbing? I use it a lot for sport, and I have been told that when you use it in trad at the anchor, it doesn't respond as well when loaded in three directions, although I've never had issues with that.
@italianplayaful
3 жыл бұрын
I think the only real reason why is that for the bowlinline not There is a small chance of it loosening it self. Especially on long multipitches
@nickruddle1528
Жыл бұрын
Why do you clip the belay device into the rope not your belay loop?
@JBMountainSkills
Жыл бұрын
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@PDolansky
2 жыл бұрын
why should I put the rope through the top loop first?
@noahjones6587
3 жыл бұрын
Noah Jones With due respect. Perhaps it’s variable in trainings and expertise, but I think we can all agree that clipping into a rope loop over the belay loops is not what the product manufacturers recommend, and with a belay plate of choice it is not ideal for multi pitch/alpine style any how, although perhaps the rope loop connected to the belay loop as well may assist with not dropping the belay device makes sense, however. It’s much more ideal to belay off an anchor for a follow due to the fall forces, escape and comfort. I respect all of your videos and demonstrations but I would like to see the “convenience” of belaying off a harness from above comparably to the “safety of one off an anchor and what’s truly the standard.. I have only belayed off my harness from above in extreme timely, or low grade manners and even then, whenever possible it is much safer belaying off the anchor, for escape, for you partner’s comfort, and because it’s definitely a standard and effort worth teaching. I have no hard feelings watching these videos but just thought we should all be clear where climbing is going, and where it’s been. Cheers.
@JBMountainSkills
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment Noah. I have done a video on what you're saying. All methods have their pros and cons, and are appropriate in the right circumstance. I don't agree it's anywhere near as clear cut as you make out I'm afraid.
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