"Unfathomable but not illogical" is a really good way to put it.
@ABC123jd
7 ай бұрын
It is illogical to say that two or more things are identical to the same thing but distinct from each other. Any two or more things that are identical to the same thing must be identical to each other. That's how identity works.
@sariel-_-5748
6 ай бұрын
@@ABC123jd Lpt was refuted lol. This video refutes Lpt kzitem.infoNN_TZGY58kM?si=kGW65XWHveg4AdCW
@Nicolos117
5 ай бұрын
@@ABC123jdit is logical to think that God has three seperate natures that are all are all one God but are distinct from each other. It’s confusing but it ultimately doesn’t matter if you can understand it or not.
@ABC123jd
5 ай бұрын
@@Nicolos117 It matters if it implies a logical contradiction because contradictions can't be true. To say that the three persons are each identical to the same thing is to say that they are the same as each other. So you have the three persons being the same as each other and also distinct from each other, which is a contradiction.
@Cotronixco
5 ай бұрын
Unfathomable AND illogical is the best way to put it.
@jessegandy7361
4 жыл бұрын
How lame would it be to have a God we fully understand inside and out?? I enjoy the unfathomable mystery of Him!!
@pauls7286
4 жыл бұрын
If you could understand God he wouldn't be God a God you could comprehend wouldn't be worth knowing that would be man
@TheWorldTeacher
4 жыл бұрын
Paul S 🐟 07. GOD (OR NOT): There has never been, nor will there ever be, even the slightest shred of evidence for the existence of the Godhead, that is, a Supreme Person or Deity, for the notion of an omnipresent PERSON is both profoundly illogical and extremely incongruous, to put it mildly. The English word “person” literally means “for sound”, originating from the Latin/Greek “persona/prósōpa”, referring to the masks worn by actors in ancient European theatrical plays, which featured a mouth hole to enable the actors to speak through. Theists, by definition, believe that there is a Supreme Deity which incorporates anthropomorphic characteristics such as corporeal form (even if that form is a “spiritual” body, whatever that may connote), with a face (hence the term “person”), and certain personality traits such as unique preferences and aversions. Simple logic dictates that the Ultimate Reality transcends all concepts, including personality and even impersonality. However, only an excruciatingly minute number of humans have ever grasped this complete understanding and realization. There are at least FOUR reasons why many persons are convinced of the existence of a Supreme Personal God: 1. Because it is natural for any sensible person to believe that humans may not be the pinnacle of existence, and that there must be a higher/ultimate power in existence (an intelligent designer). However, because they cannot conceive of this designer being non-personal, they automatically suspect it must be a man (God) or a woman (The Goddess) with personal attributes. One who is truly awakened and/or enlightened understands that the Universal Self is the creator of all experiences and that he IS that (“tat tvam asi”, in Sanskrit). 2. Because they have experienced some kind of mystical phenomenon or miracle, which they mistakenly attribute to “God's grace”, but which can be more logically explicated by another means. As explained, all such phenomena are produced by the TRUE Self of all selves (“Paramātman”, in Sanskrit). I, the author of this Holy Scripture, have personally experienced very powerful, miraculous, mystical phenomena, which I formerly ascribed to the personal conception of God (since I was a Theist), but now know to be caused, ultimately, by the Real Self. 3. Because they may have witnessed the deeds or read the words of an individual who seems to be a perfect person - in other words an incarnation of the Divine Principle (“Avatāra”, in Sanskrit). To be sure, such persons do exist, but that does not necessarily prove that the Supreme Truth is PERSONAL. An Avatar is a man who was born fully enlightened, with all noble qualities, but not necessarily perfect in every possible way. For example, very few (if any) of the recognized Avatars in human history taught or practiced veganism. 4. Because they have been CONDITIONED by their family, society and/or religious organization over many years or decades. Unfortunately, we humans are very gullible. Due to low intelligence and lack of critical analysis, the typical person believes almost anything they read or hear from virtually any source. During a visit to one's local place of worship on any given weekend, one will notice a congregation of sheepish individuals nodding in agreement with practically every nonsensical, inane word spouted by their deluded so-called “priest”, imam, mullah, rabbi, guru, monk, or preacher. Even the current World Teacher, despite his genius intellect, was once a thoroughly-indoctrinated religious fundamentalist, before he awoke to a definitive understanding of life. Having stated the above, the worship of the Personal Deity (“bhakti yoga”, in Sanskrit), is a legitimate spiritual path for the masses. However, the most ACCURATE understanding is monistic or non-dual (“advaita”, in Sanskrit). If one wishes to be even more pedantic, the ultimate understanding is beyond even the concept of nonduality, as the great South Indian sage, Śri Ramana Maharishi, once so rightly proclaimed. As an aside, it seems that practically every religious organization, particularly those originating in Bhārata (India), claims to have been founded by an Avatar, but that’s simply wishful thinking on the part of their congregations. Only a great sage or world teacher can POSSIBLY recognize an enlightened being, what to speak of an Incarnation of the Divine. The typical spiritual aspirant, even one who may seem to be a highly-exalted practitioner, has very little idea of what constitutes actual holiness. Frankly speaking, many famous (infamous?) religious leaders were some of the most vile and contemptible characters in human history, particularly in this Epoch of Darkness (“Kali Yuga”, in Sanskrit). “God is greater than God.” ************* “Where there is Isness, there God is. Creation is the giving of isness from God. That is why God becomes where any creature expresses God.” ************* “Theologians may quarrel, but the mystics of the world speak the same language.” ************* “There is something in the soul that is so akin to God that it is one with Him... It has nothing in common with anything created.” ************* “The knower and the known are one. Simple people imagine that they should see God as if he stood there and they here. This is not so. God and I, we are one in knowledge.” ************* “The eye through which I see God is the same eye through which God sees me; my eye and God's eye are one eye, one seeing, one knowing, one love.” Eckhart von Hochheim O.P. (AKA Meister Eckhart) , German Roman Catholic Priest. “God is merely one of man's concepts, a symbol used for pointing the way, to the Ultimate Reality, which has been mistaken for the Reality itself. The map has been mistaken for the actual territory.” ************* “Worshipers may derive some sort of satisfaction or peace of mind, through worship of a concept such as God (created by themselves), but it is a futile process, from the viewpoint of experiencing one's true nature.” Ramesh Balsekar, Indian Spiritual Teacher.
@Mantheman23
4 жыл бұрын
*The World Teacher - Jagadguru Svāmī Vegānanda* What is wrong with you atheists? Is Atheism a religion now? Do you want to convert people? No? So leave us alone and let us believe what we want! Nobody is forcing you to be a Christian, you guys are so annoying like go away shoo you mosquito!
@TheWorldTeacher
4 жыл бұрын
Michael PMS are the initials for “Premenstrual Syndrome”, which every woman (except, perhaps, Mama Maria) has at LEAST once a month, when she cannot control her moods and emotions. And it seems from your impetuous and DISRESPECTFUL response that you are experiencing some kind of premenstrual affliction, Slave?
@Mantheman23
4 жыл бұрын
*The World Teacher - Jagadguru Svāmī Vegānanda* Oh so let me get this straight, I’m upset so that automatically means I’m “experiencing some kind of premenstrual affliction”? LOL okay I guess so, and nobody’s a slave to nothing. I can easily just drop my beliefs and stop being a Christian nobody is stopping me. I’m not being forced to be a Christian so what is your point? Yes I am a servant of God because I CHOOSE to be not because I’m forced.
@sendotiago1692
5 жыл бұрын
Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all your heart; do not depend on your own understanding.
@datguyben8222
5 жыл бұрын
Sendo Tiago “in all your ways acknowledge him and he’ll make your path straight.” That’s the next sentence.
@lawcch
5 жыл бұрын
so can you explain better than this guy?
@ChrisOakesCO
5 жыл бұрын
@@lawcch You are 3 in 1. Your parents are in you and you are yourself. Male an female both in you plus the mixture of them. 3 parts of 1 whole.
@clinthjhon4262
5 жыл бұрын
John 1:1-5 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it John 1:14-15 14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
@rfayz733
5 жыл бұрын
@@clinthjhon4262 quran 36.82 when god decrees a matter he say to it "Be" and it becomes. Scientists say we didn't need god until 10000th of a second after the big bang.. and the universe was compacted into an atom that atom was gods word 10000th of a second before the big bang and tus we have our universe. If you want to make sense of the bible read the quran.. read the whole chapter 36 you'll be amazed!!
@cameronjodoin309
2 жыл бұрын
I discovered God through my atheistic past as one who looked for answers through scientific discovery, until scientific discovery lead me to where I am now as a Christian. The one thing I say to current atheists when they tell me they believe in science and not some "floating man", is whether or not they actually have read the Bible. I get the same answer every time. Jordan Peterson actually wrote a book called "You Probably Should've Read The Bible", and it goes into how God's existence is proven through scientific discovery and how most people try to ignore him.
@Doc-Holliday1851
2 жыл бұрын
That was very cool to read and I’m definitely picking up that book.
@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep
2 жыл бұрын
If you haven't heard of Hugh Ross you'd probably find him fascinating. He really goes into how science points towards the God of the bible. He is an astrophysicist, has/had a tv show reasons to believe that dealt with this subject for around two decades, a ministry that deals with this, and a website that posts articles almost everyday about the most recent scientific papers that point towards Jesus. He also has many videos and debates at universities with Atheist scientists. Very fascinating.
@celtictarotreadings333
Жыл бұрын
I’m not really a fan of Jordan but that sounds interesting
@Seth9809
Жыл бұрын
As a religious person, it's so insecure for people to try and prove something supernatural, by using the natural world.
@Seth9809
Жыл бұрын
@@celtictarotreadings333 Same, he's just really quick to call people psychopaths.
@FELIX-qr6vd
4 жыл бұрын
They believe that a human being is "body, soul and spirit", but yet they can’t believe that God can be Father, Son and Holy Spirit. There is a reason why in the book of Matthew Jesus said "Baptize them in the Name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit."
@sonoftheking1977
4 жыл бұрын
You're suppose to be baptized in jesus name. The name of the father son and holy spirit is jesus christ. I'm not trying to misinterpret God's word because I know its punishable so I'm gonna say this is how I take it until further notice. The word trinity isn't in the bible jesus describes it as one being. Never talks about a trinity that's man made doctrine. Peter said be baptized in jesus name for the remission of sin and you'll receive the holy ghost something along those line please correct me if I'm wrong. So when he said in the name of the father etc. I believe it's because the name is jesus. But that's my understanding as of now let me know what you think.
@AlejandroOsorio85
4 жыл бұрын
Julius Ruiz Are you a Oneness Pentecostal? How can the Father and Holy Spirit be titles for Jesus If Scripture has made it clear that they are distinct persons? Jesus considers the Father as someone other than Himself. We know Jesus is not the Father because the Father sent the Son (John3:16-17). The Father and Son love each other (John3:35) and speak to each other (John11:41-42). The Father knows the Son and the Son knows the Father (Matt.11:27). Jesus is our advocate with the Father (1John2:1). They are two distinct witnesses (John5:31,32,37). We also know Jesus is not the Holy Spirit because the Holy Spirit is another comforter (John14:16). Jesus sent the Holy Spirit (John15:26). The Holy Spirit descended upon Jesus (Luke3:22) and seeks to glorify Jesus (John16:13-14).
@sonoftheking1977
4 жыл бұрын
@@AlejandroOsorio85 ok now find me a scripture that's says holy trinity. I'll find one where he refers to it as one. Not Pentecostal I follow jesus
@AlejandroOsorio85
4 жыл бұрын
Julius Ruiz Just because the Bible never states the word “Trinity” does not invalidate it. How can you say the Son is the Father and the Holy Spirit When the Bible has made a clear distinction between all three persons? I suggest you follow this link->>> www.equip.org/article/is-jesus-the-father-and-the-holy-spirit/
@sonoftheking1977
4 жыл бұрын
@@AlejandroOsorio85 so the bible doesnt say it correct? So you admit to using man made doctrine?
@redtiger4352
4 жыл бұрын
Fact: human mind can not comprehend spirit of God Example: If God is omnipresent, and at three different places at same time, is there 3 Gods? Answer is NO. The use of numbers is inadequate to describe spiritual entities
@ISAiah.42
4 жыл бұрын
The use of your brain, is no use at all. Are we getting what you're saying right?
@michellehall5942
4 жыл бұрын
present in om omnipresent
@michellehall5942
4 жыл бұрын
@@ISAiah.42 present in om bet yas didnt see that
@ISAiah.42
4 жыл бұрын
@@michellehall5942 what are you talkin about?
@ChotbielJKeach
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, human mind cannot comprehend spirit of God, and that is the very reason I dont believe in a triune God!
@timsharpe6652
5 жыл бұрын
This comes to my mind . Isaiah 55 8- 9 " For my thoughts are not your thoughts neither are your ways my ways declares the lord. As the heavens are higher than the earth , so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts"
@arslanduha
5 жыл бұрын
John 17:3 '' Now this is eternal life: that they know you,THE ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.''
@joellukewarriorforjesusthe293
5 жыл бұрын
Amen beautiful scripture
@ea-tr1jh
5 жыл бұрын
@@arslanduha okay???
@OurHumbleLife
5 жыл бұрын
We still need to understand WHO God and His Son are.
@tomidomusic
5 жыл бұрын
Psalm 119: 130 The unfolding of your words gives light; it imparts understanding to the simple. Big problem with the the trinity doctrine: kzitem.info/news/bejne/t4OVvZ1jsGSrZ2k
@station4658
Жыл бұрын
I think it’s funny that i couldn’t understand it so i looked it up and the whole point of the video is that we, as humans, cannot understand it.
@ajim9687
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@ABC123jd
7 ай бұрын
Then how can you believe in it?
@Cotronixco
6 ай бұрын
Absolutely. Myths are designed to be difficult to disprove.
@kriggo1
6 ай бұрын
Don't think, just believe for Jesus said "I am" whatever that means
@ABC123jd
6 ай бұрын
@@kriggo1 It means he's the Messiah.
@lifesgoodtruth1380
5 жыл бұрын
How do a husband and a wife become one flesh? How does a sporting team operate as one unit? Many miss this. But in Genesis 1:26. It clearly says. Let "US" make man in "OUR" image. (US, and OUR) Many don't notice how this is plural and not singular. Even Elohim (God) is plural. EL is singular. If you've seen and know Jesus. Then you've seen and know the Father. That's because they are exactly the same. You would not be able to tell them apart. The Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit operate together as one unit. They have been since before the creation of this existence.
@fusionfoodswithraj
5 жыл бұрын
The verse after that says what? Genesis 1:27 so God created man in his image in the image of God created he him, Male and female created he them. Do u see 2?or genesis 2:2 it says God ended his work..... people draw conclusions to suit themselves but the bible says he is one. Isaiah 43 says he is God and theirs none beside him. Where did any apostle act in the name of 3? Or baptise in 3?
@ea-tr1jh
5 жыл бұрын
The Father and the Son are not the same Person. That is the heresy of modalism rejected by the Church in the 2nd Century.
@ea-tr1jh
5 жыл бұрын
@roger johnson No, they are no the same Person. Scripture is strongly clear that modalism is false. Matthew 3:16-17 is clear that the Persons of God are distinct: "As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him. And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”
@fusionfoodswithraj
5 жыл бұрын
@@ea-tr1jh john 14:8 phillip said show us the father that it suffice us and jesus said have I been so long with u and u ask to see the father. Isaiah 9:6 he shall be caleb everlasting father. How many fathers do we have but one! The bible says we are sons of God and heir according to Baptism and if children to him we have only one father, and jesus said he was and is that father
@ea-tr1jh
5 жыл бұрын
@@fusionfoodswithraj Inspiring Philosophy debunks this claim that Jesus is the Father using Isa 9:6. Watch his video on Trinitarianism Claims refuted. It is a common but debunked claim. The verse is not saying that Jesus is the Father but that he will be an "eternal father" to everyone. It is a descriptor, not his identity. The Hebrew text and the rest of the Bible make it clear. You have to be blind to not know that the Father is distinct from the Son. The Bible makes it clear numerous times. Modalism is absolutely silly.
@moosechuckle
3 жыл бұрын
I have always imagined ourselves, spilt into thirds. If someone saw your body, they would know who you were: visually. If someone saw your mind (or at least a projection of yourself by your mind) they would know who you are. And, if your spirit, the energy of what makes you move and our holy connection with God, was spit from your mind and body, one would know who you are. Mind: is Father Body: is the Christ Soul: is The Holy Spirit All 3 are you, separated they are you, but neither is the other. Perhaps in the afterlife, you also are able to experience the separation and oneness that God does.
@LenkenIssac
3 жыл бұрын
Nice analogy 🙏
@someguy-cv9jd
3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, fair enough.
@yourstrulytkk8123
3 жыл бұрын
Why doesn’t this comment have more likes?! Absolutely brilliant
@skimaned4291
3 жыл бұрын
that's partialism
@moosechuckle
3 жыл бұрын
@@skimaned4291 “Partialism “ a sexual interest with a focus on a specific part of the body. This can be any part of the body, such as the hair, breasts, or buttocks. The most common form of partialism is podophilia, in which a person becomes sexually aroused by feet. No... no it is nothing like that.
@adventurousone5077
5 жыл бұрын
Give your life to Jesus Christ. Believe and Pray: *God, I know that I am a sinner and unless you save me I will be lost forever. I believe that Jesus Christ is the true Son of God, died on the cross for my sins and arose on the 3rd day. I accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior, in the name of Jesus, Amen.*
@_riahjackson_
5 жыл бұрын
Adventurous One say it out loud !
@thewordkeeper7417
4 жыл бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/t2xqqoePkZFqhH4 Proof of the TRIUNE GOD Let us not be ignorant everyone God bless you
@adventurousone5077
4 жыл бұрын
@@thealiachekzaifoundationof3822 I'm sorry but there is nothing that can justify the divinity of Mary and reconcile it with Christianity. Mary wasnt sinless, she was born into sin like the rest of us. The proof is that she eventually died, the wage of sin. In my theory, the reason that Christ was born of Mary sinless is that the paternal chromosome was not present; perhaps sin is inherited from the male. Jesus may have lived forever had he not been crucified as Adam would have had he not sinned. Mary knew her son is God and believed in Him, not the other way around. Nowhere does it say in scripture that Mary is the only Way to the Father.
@TheGuitarReb
3 жыл бұрын
@@thealiachekzaifoundationof3822 There is a cross atop our flagpole. There is a bird of prey atop the U.S. flagpole. Deo Vindice
Hugh Ross’s book “beyond the cosmos” is a great follow up to this video. All about viewing God outside of our own 4 dimensions 👍🏼 Thanks Michael!
@user-ch4ex3yy4l
8 ай бұрын
You mean our 3 dimensions.
@denissutherland3653
5 жыл бұрын
John 5 : 43 "I came in the name of my Father and yet you did not receive me. If another comes in his own name, you will receive him."
@rfayz733
5 жыл бұрын
All the prophets came In the name of God, "my father" and "the father" another term for God. You know this.
@erwinaquinde7211
5 жыл бұрын
The Holy Trinity 5 The Father stood before His children and explained unto them that He had chosen a leader from among them to watch over His work in this part of His kingdom. 6 And the Father called forth Jehovah from among the other spirits and presented him before them as the one that He had chosen. 7 And it came to pass that another valiant spirit was called forth and presented unto the spirits by the Father. 8 And the Father brought forth one of the spirits and presented him to the other spirits that resided there. And I beheld that this spirit was Michael, who would become the mortal father of all the children of men. 15 There before the throne of the Eternal Father, even Elohim, stood Jehovah, even Jesus the Christ, and Michael, the father of all the children of men, even the man Adam. And every knee bowed and every soul sang praises to this Holy Trinity. 16 There appeared a sea of many souls, even more numerous than the sands upon the sea shore, each singing praises of glory towards the throne of God, and all kneeling in honor of their Father and their God. 11 And it came to pass that Michael went down and passed through the days of his probation and died; yea, even so, he returned once again to the world of spirits from whence he came. 12 And Michael ruled at the right hand of Jehovah and reigned in his stead when the time came for Jehovah to pass through the days of his probation. 16 And for the small space of time in between the death of his mortal body and his resurrection, Jesus entered once again into the spirit world and bestowed upon Michael all the powers and authority that he had received from the Father, so that Michael could rule and reign in the spirit world. 17 And now, this is the mystery that hath not been revealed except unto those who have been faithful and received the knowledge of God by way of the spirit of God. For behold, Michael is the other member of the Godhead, yea even the Holy Ghost. 20 But Michael would not take upon himself a resurrected body, but was called and chosen to rule and reign in the spirit world as the Holy Ghost until the work of the Father, concerning His children that belong to this part of His kingdom, is finished. 52 And in this way, Michael, who is the Holy Ghost, is known as the archangel who is in constant battle for the souls of men with Lucifer, who is also known as the devil.
@rfayz733
5 жыл бұрын
@@erwinaquinde7211 Erwin can you please knock it off. It's annoying!
@D800Lover
5 жыл бұрын
@@erwinaquinde7211 - Be very careful. You just gave many uneducated the idea that you quoted the Bible - *YOU DID NOT.* You did not reveal your deception (evil?) by telling us where those non-Biblical verses came from. You are now on very dangerous ground - deception is the tool of the Devil!
@leonardhunt5677
5 жыл бұрын
@@erwinaquinde7211 so Michael and not Adam became the mortal father of all mankind; Adam wasn't made lifeless from the dust of the ground??
@michellemoffett9458
4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video and the analogies. I've been sitting here in awe thinking of how complex God is and marveling at that. We need not lean on our own understanding.
@TheWorldTeacher
3 жыл бұрын
There’s only one TINY little problem with what you wrote above, Mrs. Moffett.☝️ There has never been, nor will there ever be, even the SLIGHTEST shred of evidence for the existence of the Godhead, that is, a Supreme Person or Deity.🤓 It is high time for humanity to awaken from all INANE superstitions such as the belief in a Personal God which created the Universe, would you not agree, Slave? 😩
@LennyCash777
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, sister. Amen. HE IS RISEN! ✝️ 🕊️ 👑 kzitem.info/news/bejne/q2atza2pbIx2e44 kzitem.info/news/bejne/232FnJOXjF-Deag
@marygraceanora1506
2 жыл бұрын
"The Truth About God: Is the Trinity True or False?" Please click on the link below to watch and understand the biblical teachings: ⬇️⬇️⬇️ kzitem.info/news/bejne/yYGeloeGe2eUnaw
@سيكرسيكر
2 жыл бұрын
hold on. breath. jesus said no one knows the hour holy the father knows it. they say jesus does not knownit coz he was in a man body. but what about the holy spirit? holy spirit is claimed to be God still he does not know the hour!!so holy spirit is not all-knowing !!! heis not god. only the father is the only true God . thanks😘
@kalijasin
2 жыл бұрын
God begets God out of God because God created God to pray to God to save God from God to then reject God to kill God because God worships God!! #Christianityillogical
@azmendozafamily
Жыл бұрын
Your explanation was great, and the addition of segments from both Carl Sagan and C.S. Lewis really helped to clarify things.
@PaulYoung-in-the-house
Жыл бұрын
The Nicene Creed says, “God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one being with the Father.” “begotten, not made”. Literally, “begotten” and “made” are the same. Doesn’t “begotten” imply “made”? So literally this verse is contradictory. “begotten, not made”. So there must be a profound meaning to this verse, that is: At a certain point many lifetimes ago, the Christ was begotten of the Father. Through practice in many lifetimes, He has eradicated all sins and sinful nature, and fully restored divinity and spirituality. The full divinity and spirituality of the Christ were not made, so He was not made. The reason why it can be explained in this way is because there are many lifetimes. Without many lifetimes, there’s no way to explain “begotten, not made”. Many lifetimes after being begotten, eventually the Christ was not made. Without “many lifetimes”, “begotten” and “made” would be the same. So this explanation is at least understandable in theory. --Light of Wisdom Church《The Trinity |God from God, Light from Light|Reincarnation | I Am the way, the truth and the life 08》
@Alpha-and-Omega-Trinitarian
6 ай бұрын
@@PaulYoung-in-the-house You do know that begotten and made is absolutely not the same right?. Made: to have made something within creation Begotten: to have a eternal relationship and having the same essence So it isn't the same.
@ebonypegasus9864
2 жыл бұрын
The way I understand it is this... when I'm gaming, My avatar is all me, yet separate from me. to the other players, and if the NPC;'s were real that would be all me, yet I know that I exist outside of that game as a physical person, and also as a spirit. Because I'm outside of the game, I can die in the game, but come back, respawn in it as well.
@ashleychileshe4466
2 жыл бұрын
Bro u actually hella smart for that
@ebonypegasus9864
2 жыл бұрын
@@ashleychileshe4466 Or.. I'm a gamer girl addict :D but... its a way to understand how Yeshua/Jesus could be all God, and all man at the same time, yet still be completely the Holy Spirit.
@fredcalledbygod
2 жыл бұрын
I also believed that same analogy you used, I remember I was just tryna understand the trinity one day and I thought about my fortnite character. However, the reason why I dropped it is because the avatar is being controlled by the person behind also meaning the avatar has no will. This isn’t in line with Scripture because Jesus is revealed to have his own will. Luke 22:42 “saying, `Father, if Thou be counselling to make this cup pass from me --; but, not my will, but Thine be done.'” This Scripture reveals that the Father and Son have separate wills of their own. Hebrews 10:7 “then I said, Lo, I come, (in a volume of the book it hath been written concerning me,) to do, O God, Thy will;'”
@wilder11
6 ай бұрын
Yeah I've had a similar thought, that we are to video games what God is to base reality. It's crude and not 1:1, but it seems to get the point across.
@wilder11
6 ай бұрын
Think about this: The devs are akin to God the Father, the players are akin to God the Son, and...the publishers are the Holy Spirit? Haha I'm work shopping it.
@drskk4652
4 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure if this is a good analogy but I was taught the analogy that God is similar to water, and water has three forms: Ice, liquid, and vapor. So the father could be similar to ice, the son could be liquid, and the spirit could be vapor. While all three are still water, the three states of ice, liquid, and vapor are all different (well maybe aside from the fact that you can transition in between these states of water by changing temperature or pressure)
@ellickerfc9156
4 жыл бұрын
From your example one form can transition to the other e.g water can transition to steam or ice. If you are trying to compare the three forms of water to the trinity then it means the father can transition into the son and into the holy spirit VICE VERSA I know as a christian you will disagree hence the example is invalid HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND Here is a link:kzitem.info/news/bejne/pq6CmWRjk6Jzdmk
@uekvowzkaebbzuvrgipqxhemmwbhe
2 жыл бұрын
That’s modalism and sadly it’s not what the Bible teaches, god is not one thing that presents itself in different ways
@logical-reasoning
2 жыл бұрын
Where is the snow? One can hit me with snow but ice is as hard as a brick..
@kirjian
2 жыл бұрын
That's modalism Patrick!
@sevenlineitapinfo2944
2 жыл бұрын
And which of the 3 "Ice, liquid, and vapor" would you like to have a Ton of, dropped on your head
@The-Travel-Man
4 жыл бұрын
In other words, God can be represented in all humans and every human is a part of and a creation of God at the same time. It just totally made sense to me.
@OneTipEveryday360
2 жыл бұрын
How can god be represented in all humans? How can he be weak, sleep eat sleep again cry laugh etc that’s just don’t make sense
@hannahgil432
2 жыл бұрын
@@OneTipEveryday360 Jesus did those things and He is God in human form
@OneTipEveryday360
2 жыл бұрын
@@hannahgil432 ur talking about god bro how can he transform himself into something weak This doesn’t make any sense this is god ur talking about he created everything the way he wants he doesn’t have to come down he’s the maker the owner the all mighty
@johnzuma4688
2 жыл бұрын
@@OneTipEveryday360 So you are saying that Mohammed's allah is so weak that he cannot eat and drink? Makes Mohammed's allah sounds like an imaginary stone idol.
@barassathafsa5443
2 жыл бұрын
In the name of Allah(=God) 72. Those who say, “Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary,” have certainly fallen into disbelief. The Messiah ˹himself˺ said, “O Children of Israel! Worship Allah-my Lord and your Lord.” Whoever associates others with Allah ˹in worship˺ will surely be forbidden Paradise by Allah. Their home will be the Fire. And the wrongdoers will have no helpers. 73. Those who say, “Allah is one in a Trinity,” have certainly fallen into disbelief. There is only One God. If they do not stop saying this, those who disbelieve among them will be afflicted with a painful punishment. *Still Not Too Late 74. Will they not turn to Allah in repentance and seek His forgiveness? And Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful. *Jesus Was Human, Not Divine 75. The Messiah, son of Mary, was no more than a messenger. ˹Many˺ messengers had ˹come and˺ gone before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They both ate food.[256] See how We make the signs clear to them, yet see how they are deluded ˹from the truth˺! *Follow the Truth 76. Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “How can you worship besides Allah those who can neither harm nor benefit you? And Allah ˹alone˺ is the All-Hearing, All-Knowing.” 77. Say, “O People of the Book! Do not go to extremes in your faith beyond the truth, nor follow the vain desires of those who went astray before ˹you˺. They misled many and strayed from the Right Way.” Source: the_clear_Quran ; chapter 5 * : title to make the understanding easier for the reader, but not among the revelation
@RezTheKing
Жыл бұрын
Great work I understood more in these 6 mins than I have for several years.And I'm not ripping my hair out or sad that I don't understand a couple of things.
@itapinfomaps6233
Жыл бұрын
There are many Christian denominations that teaches the Trinity. However, notice what the Encyclopedia Britannica states: “Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies.” "Head of woman is man. Head of man is Christ. Head of Christ is God. 1 Cor 11:3 - "After Jesus brings about Kingdom blessings to earth, he will hand over the Kingdom to his God and Father - 1 Cor 15:24 “Jehovah (Yahweh) our God is one Jehovah.”-Deuteronomy 6:4. “You, whose name is Jehovah (Yahweh) , you alone are the Most High over all the earth.”-Psalm 83:18. “This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.”-John 17:3. “God is only one.”-Galatians 3:20. “My Father is greater than I [Jesus].”-John 14:28. * “Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” .”-John 20:17. “To us there is but one God, the Father.”-1 Corinthians 8:6. “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.”-1 Peter 1:3. “These things saith the Amen [Jesus], . . . the beginning of the creation of God.”-Revelation 3:14. * "No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is at the Father’s side is the one who has explained Him". John 1:18 “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Mathew 7:21 "Moreover, do not call anyone your father on earth, for one is your Father, the heavenly One.10 Neither be called leaders, for your Leader is one, the Christ.11 But the greatest one among you must be your minister" Mathew 23.9 "Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’ Mathew 7:22-23
@Kam-12-e2d
11 ай бұрын
@@itapinfomaps6233 All your points can be beaten really easily tbh. I’ll choose Deuteronomy 6:4 tho. The hebrew word for “one” in Deuteronomy 6:4 is “echad” and echad does not mean one in quantity but one in unity. So “The Lord our God is a unity”. Need I say more?
@AlfredGallegos-no4pb
3 ай бұрын
THE DEVILS KNOW MORE THAN 6 MINUTES THEY HAVE KNOWN GOD IS ONE A MINIMUM OF 6OOO YEARS "{THOU BELIEVEST THERE IS ONE GOD, THE DEVILS ALSO BELIEVE, AND TREMBLE. THIS THE ONE AND ONLY PLACE YOU COULD LEARN A LOT FROM A DEVIL
@jeep1927
2 жыл бұрын
No, the trinity is not supported in scripture. John 14:28 and Mark 13:32 show that the doctrine of co-equality is false.
@lizzard13666
7 ай бұрын
Amen brother! Are you a Biblical Unitarian or a Christadelphian by any chance?
@jeep1927
7 ай бұрын
@@lizzard13666 I suppose I could be classified as Unitarian although I do believe Jesus existed before the beginning of time, he is eternally forward, if you will.
@lizzard13666
7 ай бұрын
@@jeep1927 Yeah, there are lot's of "preexistence" Biblical Unitarians. There's a bunch of them in the Unitarian Christian Alliance (UCA), feel free to look it up! We're trying to take on the various Trinitarian models, and win over our Trinitarian brothers and sisters!
@D4rkmatter
25 күн бұрын
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.". John 1:1 "I and the Father are one.” John 10:30 "And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true; and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life." 1 John 5:20.
@bornjusticerule5764
7 жыл бұрын
great job including that Sagan clip. i almost didn't watch this video but now i am glad i did.
@Krshwunk
7 жыл бұрын
Amen. Using what atheists/agnostics have latched on to in the wake of the current philosophical/theological confusion of the modern world and using those said remnants to explain the Trinity is absolutely brilliant ... and, moreover, necessary in this age. Well done.
@samisastro8766
5 жыл бұрын
@@Krshwunk Jews dont believe that God is human being at all. Otherwise Christians use Old Testament as one of their reference. Ha. Ha. . . To believe in God of Trinity, someone must be smart, genious first?
@megapolishardware630
5 жыл бұрын
😆😆😆Sagan helping to explain The Trinity...forced labor to the poor Atheist ? 😶 RIP dude
@mariodiblasio8058
7 жыл бұрын
1x1x1=1. Thank God for math! It's not 3, it's ONE!
@davidstanton8526
7 жыл бұрын
Mario DiBlasio thank God for math! It's not one. It's three. Proof: 1+1+1=3.
@seraphimdunn
7 жыл бұрын
David Stanton God is one. 1/1/1=1. Jesus Christ was not simply a man. You are parroting Islamic paganism.
@mariodiblasio8058
7 жыл бұрын
+David Stanton: No David, we cannot add from God or subtract from Him or divide Him; He is One! So, the only math available is multiplication: 1x1x1=1, understanding that the Godhead is a plurality (Elohim) but still ONE God! God bless you.
@davidstanton8526
7 жыл бұрын
Raymond Dunn where do you find the term God the Son in the Bible? You don't and neither do I. Where do we find the term God the Holy Spirit in the Bible? We don't. Now let's call these three Person in one God what they are: "Gods." Trinitarians believe in three Gods. This is not division. This is just plain common sense.
@davidstanton8526
7 жыл бұрын
Mario DiBlasio the one true God of the Bible is God the Father. God is NOT in God the Father because he is God the Father. Jesus is NEVER called God the Son in the Bible. He is only and always called the Son of God. Likewise the Holy Spirit is never called God the Holy Spirit in the Bible. I will defend the Bible all day long, but man made Trinitarian doctrine I will never defend!
@akashjain709
3 жыл бұрын
Riches take wings, comforts vanish, hope withers away,but love stays with us. Love is God.❤️
@EGMAG
3 жыл бұрын
Tell it to the holocaust victims of which all humanity is .
@Christian-yl4dj
Жыл бұрын
TRINITY EXPLAINED:- JESUS CHRIST IS TRUE GOD ✝️❤️ Contradiction is "A" and Not "A" at same time. Eg: "Three beings in one being!" Or "Three persons in one person!" is Contradiction. But, Christians (Catholic) beleive that "Three persons in one being (One God)!". It's not Contradiction 💯👍 So that, 1 God = 3 Persons & 3 Persons are God ✝️ In this world, 1 being = 1 Person. But in the case of God, 1 being = 3 persons🔥🔥🔥 On the human level one person is one being, and any two persons are two beings. But, God is another dimension. DON'T UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF GOD & HIS TRUTHS. AMEN 🙏 SON (JESUS) WAS NOT CREATED. HE IS THE CREATOR. IN THE BEGINNING JESUS WAS WITH THE FATHER WITH HEAVENLY BODY AND FATHER CREATED ALL THINGS THROUGH SON (JESUS) ✝️❤️ 🌹"Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "Before Abraham was born, I AM" - JOHN 8:58 🌹In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth - GENESIS 1:1 🌹In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God - JOHN 1:1 🌹The word became a flesh & lived here with us - JOHN 1:14 🌹"Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, - GENESIS 1:26 I BELIEVE IN ONE GOD & HOLY TRINITY ✝️
@PaulYoung-in-the-house
Жыл бұрын
The Nicene Creed says, “God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one being with the Father.” “begotten, not made”. Literally, “begotten” and “made” are the same. Doesn’t “begotten” imply “made”? So literally this verse is contradictory. “begotten, not made”. So there must be a profound meaning to this verse, that is: At a certain point many lifetimes ago, the Christ was begotten of the Father. Through practice in many lifetimes, He has eradicated all sins and sinful nature, and fully restored divinity and spirituality. The full divinity and spirituality of the Christ were not made, so He was not made. The reason why it can be explained in this way is because there are many lifetimes. Without many lifetimes, there’s no way to explain “begotten, not made”. Many lifetimes after being begotten, eventually the Christ was not made. Without “many lifetimes”, “begotten” and “made” would be the same. So this explanation is at least understandable in theory. --Light of Wisdom Church《The Trinity |God from God, Light from Light|Reincarnation | I Am the way, the truth and the life 08》
@tumarbongrox6074
2 жыл бұрын
FIRST OF ALL, the word *•TRINITY•* is never, ever mentioned in the BIBLE! No not even *once!!* SECOND, the word Trinity was made up by MAN/MEN and implemented *after* the BIBLE was completed. THIRDLY, using the word PERSONS isn't conventional. If you are going to say it correctly, you would say that *GOD is 3 people!* ..... Not 3 "persons" FOURTHLY, GOD is *not* a "person" or a *people!!* For the Trinity to be true then you must say that GOD is a *person,* Jesus is a *person,* and the Holy Spirit is a *person!* HUH?? But we all Know that GOD the father *NOT* a person. GOD IS GOD and will never change. So the Trinity basically states that GOD is god, Jesus is God, and the Holy Spirit is GOD! But, but.. wait a minute, using that *correct* terminology would add up to -THREE Gods-!! Using even the most simple math you end up with *three* GODS! The men that CONJURED up the TRINITY couldn't use the word *GOD* so they used an unconventional word like •PERSONS• Then they could state its ALL a mystery. However, the real excuse is the men that *conjured* up the word TRINITY made up a term that THEY couldn't even explain themselves. They basically said "PHUCK IT" and left it as that.... And the naive world of future Christians adopted this *IDIOTIC* term and idiotic explanation.
@AlfredGallegos-no4pb
3 ай бұрын
YES IT WAS MADE UP, AT THE COUNCIL OF NICEA BY THE CATHOLIC INSTITUTION IN 325 AD IF YOU NEED MORE BULLETS POST TO ME IVE GOT GOBS! GOD BLESS YOU AND KEEP POSTING AGAINST THE BIGGEST LIE OF OUR AGE
@xxddxx95
5 жыл бұрын
I’ve been trying to wrap my little human brain around the Trinity for a long time. This really helped me get a way better understanding. Thank you Sir . God bless
@nicknameformeandisla
5 жыл бұрын
What did your Church Fathers do in Nicaea Concil (325 A.D)? Didn't know that, did you? Be honest and admit that the trinity is innovation in the religion .
@xxddxx95
5 жыл бұрын
@@nicknameformeandisla But there's a Father, Son, and Holy Spirit , which is three persons one God other words the Trinity.
@nicknameformeandisla
5 жыл бұрын
@@xxddxx95 The point is that the Church Fathers came up with this in Concil of Nicaea (325 A.D)
@xxddxx95
5 жыл бұрын
@@nicknameformeandisla in the Bible it talks about the Father it also says Jesus is the son of God and it also talks about spirit of God, breath of God or in other words the Holy Spirit. So the Trinity isn't some made up bs
@nicknameformeandisla
5 жыл бұрын
@@xxddxx95 what's in the Bible about the trinity was made up in the Council of Nicaea.
@morganjonasson2947
4 жыл бұрын
Here is how I intepret it; When you dream about something, you are god of the world inside your dream, because the trees, the rocks, the mountains, the people you see etc. are all a product of your mind, your mind being the spirit. Everything seen and the person you are in the dream being the son, you dreaming up all of that being the father, and your consciousness experiencing the dream being the spirit. That's how god created everything, and that's how the trinity is true. God is the mind that was before everything else. Despite what scientists claims that the mind comes from matter, it's the other way around - the mind created the matter. That mind is what we call god. Just like your dreams when you sleep is the product of "your" mind, everything you today can see and feel through all your senses are the product of THE mind we call GOD. The mind is the creator of all reality, thus the father.The mind also is the things it created just like you are your dreams, thus the son. And finally, without the mind being omnipotent and experiencing the reality through everyone of us, including you, you would be nothing more than a biological machine. Thus the mind also is the holy spirit.
@sikwillyadams4829
4 жыл бұрын
Morgan, makes a lot of sense. I agree.
@morganjonasson2947
4 жыл бұрын
@Sono Luminescence Well, there are many ways in which one thing can be many things. For instance, if you have a family with children and your father is still alive, you will fit the definition of being both a father (of your kids) and a son (of your father). So already then you are two things - a father, and a son. and btw, Obviously 3 has been equal to 1 to the trinity in the bible, and the idea has been around since the roman empire in what is today the worlds biggest religion.
@mitchellc4
4 жыл бұрын
Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has ab God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead! The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
@AstariahJW
4 жыл бұрын
Yep you got that right trinity God is in the mind and not the God of the bible
Isaiah 43 verse 10. I am he , BEFORE ME THERE WAS NO GOD FORMED , NEITHER SHALL tHERE BE AFTER ME !
@3YearsApart1613
5 жыл бұрын
There is no conflict with what was presented in this video and that verse.
@takmaps
5 жыл бұрын
@@3YearsApart1613 it just shows how they dont understand what trinity means
@JayZoop
5 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite scriptures, because it is a bold statement "I am the same One." Then it actually explains itself right away, "Before me no God was formed, And after me there has been one." Then verse 11 continues, "I am Lord/YHVH, and besides me there is no savior."
@melonykilby6887
5 жыл бұрын
@@JayZoop you mean there is only one God and no other 😄
@JayZoop
5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. God is all encompassing Jerimiah 23:24. The Fullness of God resides in any an form or forms that God chooses to be, Father, Jesus, Holy Spirit. God is a spirit creature and can be many things at once and in many places, just as the Holy Spirit can be in many places.
@tonyclarke24
9 ай бұрын
God is multi-personal? Really what? Do you know what being multi-personal is? multiple personality. noun. psychiatry a mental disorder in which an individual's personality appears to have become separated into two or more distinct personalities, each with its own complex organization: Nontechnical name: split personality. God is NOT schizophrenic! John 14:28 Literally debunks the entire video. The Father is God yes and his name is Jesus Christ yes but; The Son is not God, the Son submits to the Father. The Spirit of the Son (Holy Ghost) is the Spirit of The Father (Genesis 1:2) that is why The Holy Ghost is God but The Holy Ghost is not different from The Father (The Holy Spirit is The Father). The reason why the scriptures says that The Son and The Father are one (which is true) is because The Holy Ghost (Spirit of Christ and Spirit of The Father) connects The Father to the Son. Next part that confuses everyone is when The Son says he that hath seen me hath seen the Father, that is also true but let me explain. Obviously The Father is The Spirit (John 4:24) So how can we see flesh and see God? Well what The Son was basically telling Philip is that; The Father doeth works through The Son therefore whenever they saw The Son doing miracles they were basically seeing The Father working through The Son (John 14:10-12). Amen thank you Holy Spirit for revealing this knowledge to me Amen. In conclusion there is only 1 God NOT 3 in 1 (Ephesians 4:4-6). The name of The Father is Jesus Christ and The name of The Holy Ghost is Jesus Christ that is why Jesus Christ is God. One more thing to add is that God is an omnipresent being meaning that he can exist everywhere all at once. Therefore The Holy Spirit CANNOT be different from The Father since The Father is omnipresent and can exist everywhere all at once The Father is The Holy Ghost named Jesus Christ amen. The reason why Christians have difficulty explaining the Trinity is because it does not exist since the Trinity is not biblical amen. One God and that's it (Ephesians 4:4-6)
@Lostandfoundrecipes-lz2mm
22 күн бұрын
So does ( Acts 20:28 )
@romanisrael7122
5 жыл бұрын
You wont find trinity in the bible
@charlemagnetheFranks
5 жыл бұрын
🕯️🕯️🕯️
@r.sampson1421
5 жыл бұрын
You are correct the word "trinity" will not show up in any concordance search. However the principle is certainly present. Consider Matthew 28:18-19.
@robinr2107
5 жыл бұрын
Sir as we are bounded with our imagination,we can only presume things. Being Christian we should only remember that to forgive,love and believe.🙏🏽
@Christian-yl4dj
Жыл бұрын
HOLY TRINITY EXPLAINED:- JESUS CHRIST IS TRUE GOD ✝️❤️ Contradiction is "A" and Not "A" at same time. Eg: "Three beings in one being!" Or "Three persons in one person!" is Contradiction. But, Christians (Catholic) beleive that "Three persons in one being (One God)!". It's not Contradiction 💯👍 So that, 1 God = 3 Persons & 3 Persons are God ✝️ In this world, 1 being = 1 Person. But in the case of God, 1 being = 3 persons🔥🔥🔥 ONE GOD EXIST AS 3 PERSONS✨ On the human level one person is one being, and any two persons are two beings. But, God is another dimension. DON'T UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF GOD & HIS TRUTHS. AMEN 🙏 SON (JESUS) WAS NOT CREATED. HE IS THE CREATOR. IN THE BEGINNING JESUS WAS WITH THE FATHER WITH HEAVENLY BODY AND FATHER CREATED ALL THINGS THROUGH SON (JESUS) ✝️❤️ 🌹"Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "Before Abraham was born, I AM" - JOHN 8:58 🌹In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth - GENESIS 1:1 🌹In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God - JOHN 1:1 🌹The word became a flesh & lived here with us - JOHN 1:14 🌹"Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, - GENESIS 1:26 JESUS, MESSIAH ARE NAMES WHICH MEANS SAVIOUR✨. SON (JESUS) & HOLY SPIRIT WAS CAME IN THE NAME OF FATHER CALLED "YAHWEH". Read Bible Properly 💯👍 THE NAME OF GOD IS YAHWEH✨. YAHWEH IS THE ONE & ONLY TRUE GOD 🙏 I BELIEVE IN ONE GOD & HOLY TRINITY ✝️
@kayondojuma4564
Жыл бұрын
God gave us logic to use it. God is not the author of confusion, I believe u know that. Ask God everyday to guide u to the straight path. Do more research, indeed God is the source of guidance
@kayondojuma4564
Жыл бұрын
If u can check out different books of "God" but indeed I recommend u to read the true word of God the Holy Quran. Am certain u will find peace and what u are looking for insha'Allah. Just have an open heart.
@kayondojuma4564
Жыл бұрын
After reading it appeal to Ur logic and intellect.
@carnivores_dh2008
Жыл бұрын
@@kayondojuma4564 i don’t think that there is confusion when we are asked to understand and fathom things through faith, which is what the Athanasian creed says about the trinity, « understand through faith ». Now this video explains why the trinity can work on a metaphysical plane and why objections are wrong, so we don’t have to be confused. Now get off with your proselytizing
@r.sampson1421
5 жыл бұрын
This is a good explanation of the Trinity. For what it's worth, I think you did a good job avoiding heresy.
@r.sampson1421
5 жыл бұрын
@Darth Quantum Not so! Check it out; Jesus taught us about the Trinity in Mathew 28:19 " Then Jesus cam to them and said, 'all authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.'" This concept was doctrinally established as church orthodoxy at the council of Nicea in AD 325 which was an ecumenical council.. not "a papist lie". - The Niceane Creed; says Christ is God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten not made, being of one substance with the Father. The Son has never been the Father and the Holy Spirit has never been the Son or the Father. Modalism is refuted in all four gospels. (Mathew 3:16-17, Mark 1:9-11, Luke 3:21-22, John 1:32-34) In which the Holy Spirit descends on Jesus in the form of a dove and a voice is heard from Heaven saying; "This is my beloved Son. With whom I am well pleased." - It would seem your issue is with the text and not with my comment.
@erwinaquinde7211
5 жыл бұрын
R. Sampson The Holy Trinity 5 The Father stood before His children and explained unto them that He had chosen a leader from among them to watch over His work in this part of His kingdom. 6 And the Father called forth Jehovah from among the other spirits and presented him before them as the one that He had chosen. 7 And it came to pass that another valiant spirit was called forth and presented unto the spirits by the Father. 8 And the Father brought forth one of the spirits and presented him to the other spirits that resided there. And I beheld that this spirit was Michael, who would become the mortal father of all the children of men. 15 There before the throne of the Eternal Father, even Elohim, stood Jehovah, even Jesus the Christ, and Michael, the father of all the children of men, even the man Adam. And every knee bowed and every soul sang praises to this Holy Trinity. 16 There appeared a sea of many souls, even more numerous than the sands upon the sea shore, each singing praises of glory towards the throne of God, and all kneeling in honor of their Father and their God. 11 And it came to pass that Michael went down and passed through the days of his probation and died; yea, even so, he returned once again to the world of spirits from whence he came. 12 And Michael ruled at the right hand of Jehovah and reigned in his stead when the time came for Jehovah to pass through the days of his probation. 16 And for the small space of time in between the death of his mortal body and his resurrection, Jesus entered once again into the spirit world and bestowed upon Michael all the powers and authority that he had received from the Father, so that Michael could rule and reign in the spirit world. 17 And now, this is the mystery that hath not been revealed except unto those who have been faithful and received the knowledge of God by way of the spirit of God. For behold, Michael is the other member of the Godhead, yea even the Holy Ghost. 20 But Michael would not take upon himself a resurrected body, but was called and chosen to rule and reign in the spirit world as the Holy Ghost until the work of the Father, concerning His children that belong to this part of His kingdom, is finished. 52 And in this way, Michael, who is the Holy Ghost, is known as the archangel who is in constant battle for the souls of men with Lucifer, who is also known as the devil.
@r.sampson1421
5 жыл бұрын
@@erwinaquinde7211 Who wrote this? When did they write it? To whom did they write it? Where can I find this reference material? How do you expect to be understood when you make a post without reference? Beyond that, this text you shared is in stark contradiction to the explicit words found in the Bible. Which means, either this is true (your post) or the Bible is true. Since they cannot be harmonized. The Biblical text is the most historically verifiable book known to man. I can immediately dismiss your cut paste job as sheer nonsense. Add to that the fact that you leave the source for this material unnamed it remains entirely unverifiable and can't have any authority, what so ever. Is this a watchtower understanding? Is this Helen G White's writings? You offer no useful information beyond the standard Arian heresy and will be dismissed as such.
@r.sampson1421
5 жыл бұрын
@Shad Sulaman Funny, that passage in its entirety does not convey what you seem to think it does. - You didn't provide a reference but I think it safe to assume you are referencing; Matthew 28:18. And Jesus said; "All authority in Heaven and on Earth [I wonder why you omitted this detail?] has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold I am with you always, even to the end of the age." So a few questions; If he has all authority in Heaven and on Earth what does that mean? - Surely in the very least it means He is to be obeyed! Then He says; Make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the NAME of the Father, Son and Holy Spirt. Why baptize in This (Singular) NAME specifically? - Because they share a NAME, a same-ness in NATURE and Character. Then this is reinforced by His closing statement. This is a COMMAND, and HE that COMMANDED it is with us even to the end of the age? Who can be with you always, besides one who has the same nature of God? IN this very short passage we can see JESUS is OMI-potent, and OMI-Present two qualities only God can have. [ALL power and ALL presence.]. - Very dishonest of you, to not reference your passage and then to cite it out of context. I am assured by reading the passage you reference that this is in FACT NOT heresy, at all!
@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep
2 жыл бұрын
@@r.sampson1421 I only have to see the portion of Michael the angel referenced as the office of Christ to assume them quoted the Christian cult material from the Watchtower, a Jehovah Witness material.
@obiyanko2019
2 жыл бұрын
The first problem with Trinitarian and Modelist "doctrines" is that man does not have any authority to "clarify" what neither The Lord nor His Father nor The Spirit of God nor The Apostles have explicitly mentioned. Only The Lord lays doctrine; not The Apostles, no one else! The doctrines of The Lord that are required for our salvation are EXPLICITY mentioned without ambiguity, without need for inference or deduction: 0. We are all condemned by sin and death. We have no hope of eternal life (Psalm 49:6) 1. Belief in God's Only Begotten Son (As the Father and The Son testified Matthew 16:15, John 17:3) 2. That He died for our sins and rose demonstrating power over death 3. If we believe in Him we will also have that victory over sin and death 4. We ought to be faithful servants else we will be rejected no matter what confession we make about The Son of God (John 15:6, Hebrews 10:38, Colossians 1:22-23, Matthew 25:14-30, Matt 17:5) We DO NOT need Oneness or Trinity or any other ism or schism,.... ONLY JESUS THE CHRIST, SON OF THE LIVING GOD!
@smalltimer4370
2 жыл бұрын
Very well said!
@mananmehta5472
6 жыл бұрын
If it can be 3, why can't it be many?
@syaifuladri6314
5 жыл бұрын
THE MORE THE MERRIER. ! AS IF A FOOT BALL TEAM, BROO...
@robertpesega4478
4 жыл бұрын
Ask God yourself🤣.. very very stupid question... hope(not) you find the answer🤣🤣
@priscillajervey6134
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, why not add the blesses Mary (mother of God) to the trinity and also Wisdom, Sophia, after all she was with God when he created the world in the beginning.. Check i t out in Proverbs.
@robertpesega4478
4 жыл бұрын
@@priscillajervey6134 be specific please. Im not quite sure what you are saying is true.
@TorahisLifeandLight
4 жыл бұрын
CASE IN POINT: Jesus is a separate spirit being...the father is also a spirit being but the Supreme being. John 4:24 1+1= 2 spirits my friend. A "spirit being "is not a title or simply a function, manifestation, or a molecule or like a title such an uncle, brother, father , president, general, or soul, mind etc etc. There is only one spirit in a human being not 3 in 1. lol A spirit being has its own existence and free will. Jesus had his own free will and his own life existence just like you and me. The false doctrine of the trinity is such a "mystery" that pastors don't even know it or explain it they said. LOL Why would you believe something that is such a mystery that your teachers don't even know it or can't explain it??????? It's like somebody asking you to kill yourself? No right? Can you really explain the trinity as a Christian without contradicting the Scriptures? LOL I laughed because millions of christians can't. If you don't know how to explain it...most likely you joined a religion out of fear. If you knew the truth, the truth will set you free. Fear or ignorance is not justified. Watch my channel videos , i explain the Hebrew Messiah since Christianity called it a mystery. please explain the following without contradicting the Scriptures in plain English. why Jesus called God to somebody else if Jesus was God? John 17:3 and why Jesus commanded to worship his father and not him?? John 20:17 and why did Jesus call his father the ONLY true God ? This statement will exclude Jesus as God. If the father is a supreme spirit being and Jesus is also a spirit being. Wouldn't that be 2 spirits? what is a spirit being? You and me are spirit beings but individually different as " two separate humans beings" . not 2 in 1 , I am not you and you are not me.
@davidward5225
2 жыл бұрын
The trinity cannot be “explained.”
@AlfredGallegos-no4pb
3 ай бұрын
because just like the so called sinners prayer it does not appear in the bible at all
@esthersullivan1614
Жыл бұрын
Father in Creation, Son in Redemption, and Holy Ghost in Regeneration. Three manifestations of the ONE GOD.
@AlfredoMartinez-mh1gp
7 ай бұрын
what ?? explain this comment makes no sense
@ABC123jd
7 ай бұрын
That first sentence sounds like something a unitarian might say
@robertbatista50
6 ай бұрын
Had he said roles, maybe the statement might not sound Unitarian or more specifically, modalist.
@robertbatista50
6 ай бұрын
The son and the Spirit were also involved in creation.
@ABC123jd
6 ай бұрын
@@robertbatista50 The Son was only involved in the new creation. Also, being God means you are the ultimate source of creation, not just that you were involved in creation.
@YHVHsword
Жыл бұрын
This is usually how the conversation goes: Me: “Firstly, I don’t condemn Trinitarians for their beliefs. But I personally don’t believe that Jesus is the Only True God. Jesus’ Father is, and that’s easily provable from the Bible.” Trinitarians: “You’re going to hell!” Me: “Wait, what? I’m going to hell for believing in the same God and Father that Jesus believed in and taught we need to know?” Trinitarians: “Yes. The Trinity is the most essential Christian belief. You must believe it to be a Christian. It’s what makes Christianity Christianity.” Me: “Isn’t believing that Jesus is the Christ what makes Christianity Christianity? And I do believe that. Jesus is the Christ, meaning he’s the ‘Anointed One’ of God. But he’s not God. The Trinity is a doctrine of men and it’s false. The Only True God is Jehovah, and Jesus is His Son.” Trinitarians: “Heretic!” 🙄
@abimukeshs8229
4 жыл бұрын
I was raised as a Hindu..but I found out the true God Almighty... and I I do believe in the Holy Trinity..
@1stcenturymessiahunveiled94
3 жыл бұрын
I am glad that you found the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. but dont be deceived. God is one God. not 3 in 1
@abimukeshs8229
3 жыл бұрын
@@1stcenturymessiahunveiled94 I didn't say God is 3,bt God is the Holy Trinity...!!
@1stcenturymessiahunveiled94
3 жыл бұрын
@@abimukeshs8229 Sorry brother , but the trinity is a deception. I dont argue that you lover God, but the trinity is a deception
@abimukeshs8229
3 жыл бұрын
@@1stcenturymessiahunveiled94 that's ur perspective.. majority ppl came to know the true God..bt u r not.. I'm pitty for u dude!!
@1stcenturymessiahunveiled94
3 жыл бұрын
@@abimukeshs8229 Do you believe Jesus when he said that the Father is the only true God?
@yourfutureself3392
3 жыл бұрын
You didn't explain how it isn't illogical. P1: God=The Father. P2: God=The Son. P3: God=The Holly Spirit. C: The Father=The Son=The Holly Spirit. What you're saying is: God=The Father God=The Son The Father≠The Son. You must deny logic in order to hold the three propositions. You yourself said that that members of the Trinity aren't components of God. Each of them is the entierty of the divine escence. If you claim that violating the principle of identity is possible, then you should reject all of natural theology, as it's based on logic.
@derwolf7810
2 жыл бұрын
You have a logical error built into your premises: The entity 'god' is considered a beeing; each of the entities 'the father', 'the sun' and 'the holy spirit' is considered a person. Because persons are not beeings, the statements "god is the son" and "the son is god" (or in your notation "god=the son" and "the son=god") are no statements of equality, with which you seem to have confused it. It's similar to the big O notation; the function f defined as f(x):=x^2+2x+4 matches the symbolic notation f=O(x^2), but O(x^2) is a set of functions and no single function like f. A different (bit similar) analogy, might (or might not) help to describe the concept: Let's assume we have given a 4-dimensional rectengular R (similar to a tesseract, but with different side lengthes along the four coordinate axes) with side lengthes 1, 2, 3 and 4 (along w, x, y and z direction), our 3d space is along the axes x, y and z and we can see R (which means that R intersects our 3d space). We would see see a typical rectengular solid with sides 2, 3 and 4. You then could rotate R such that you then see a rectengular solid with sides 1, 2 and 3. Both rectengular solids are different and no components of R (in the usual sense, though in a mathematical view), so in a way each of them is R.
@blackowl-jx2oq
Жыл бұрын
Maybe Jesus was simply a human inspired by God and not a god himself at all, but did pagan Greeks find that not sensational enough so they had to make of him a god walking on earth. In my eyes the trinity is a very forced manner to make opposing Christian ideologies fit together
@tororo76
Жыл бұрын
Why then Jesus said his kingdom is in heaven? Then Pantius Plat said: oh so you are a king? When the Jewish then think the Messiah is a king? Jesus was not seen as someone who reign on earth but above And we know only God can reign above
@blackowl-jx2oq
Жыл бұрын
@@tororo76 It's not clearly confirmed in the bible that he is God. But in any case, to proof Jesus identity you need to rely on third party proof, the bible is written by his fans, so that is not a reliable source. That said, I believe that Jesus was divine, because that is what I feel with Him. But how can I be sure? I can't.
@tororo76
Жыл бұрын
@@blackowl-jx2oqwhat is your belief?
@TheDigitalMissionary
Жыл бұрын
@@blackowl-jx2oq It is confirmed in the Bible He is God. John 1:1 & 14, Hebrews 1:8, John 20:28, Philippians 2:6-8 and more.
@blackowl-jx2oq
Жыл бұрын
@@TheDigitalMissionary If that is so obvious from the bible stories then how come that many Christians right after Jesus time thought differently?
@777Tralfaz777
2 жыл бұрын
The trinity is a false doctrine. (1 Corinthians 8:6) there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him. The apostles did not know it, or teach it.
@jesusstopsbullets5111
2 жыл бұрын
Paul gives benediction to the trinity in 2 Corinthians 13:14. Paul was an apostle so you are a liar.
@fl00m31
21 күн бұрын
Can you please tell me what matthew 28:19 says?
@777Tralfaz777
20 күн бұрын
@@fl00m31 (Matthew 28:18-20) Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. 19 Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.”
@fl00m31
20 күн бұрын
@@777Tralfaz777 great, now notice how “name” is singular despite mentioning 3 persons?
@777Tralfaz777
19 күн бұрын
@@fl00m31 I believe the phrase means in the authority of. It was not speaking of a literal name. Do you believe Jesus Christ is the name of the Father? Either way, a trinity is not explained there. You can read it a certain way with trinity lenses, but it is not clearly saying "God is 3 persons" or anything like that.
@speedoflink
5 жыл бұрын
*Title:* The Trinity Explained *Explanation:* We cannot fathom the trinity. It is a mystery. The multi dimensional shapes analogy does not make any sense either because as you say, even though we can't imagine the shapes, they are entirely logical and we can mathematically reason about them. The trinity however is something we both can't imagine nor reason about. I finished this video more confused than I started.
@TakeBack316
5 жыл бұрын
🔥When we recognize that the O.T Spirit Father who we know as Jesus came in the flesh, we recognize the Son. God is a Spirit. The O.T Father Jesus, who is a Spirit, took on a body of flesh called his Son. The Son is visible Jesus the Father of the O.T. The O.T Father is invisible Jesus. He is One Spirit. So God (Jesus the Son) is sitting on the Throne visible and Everywhere else invisible. God is greater than the body. But the body that Jesus took on holds all His fullness as the great invisible Spirit Father that all the O.T saints knew. Therefore Continue in the Son, and in the Father.🔥
@speedoflink
5 жыл бұрын
Mark .Rahe43920 Are you saying that God the Father from the Old Testament is actually God the Son?
@TakeBack316
5 жыл бұрын
@@speedoflink Jesus told us that He was the Spirit that we will receive. Even our Apostle Paul affirms it! "👉Abide in me, and I in you👈. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. I am the vine, ye are the branches: 👉He that abideth in me, and I in him👈, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you." -John 15:4-7 👉"I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you"👈. -John 14:18 👉"I and my Father are one"👈. -John 10:30 Even our Apostle Paul tells us that👇 911 The Spirit of God is the Spirit of Christ that dwells in us! 👉the Spirit of God dwell in you👈. 👉the Spirit of Christ,👈 👉Christ be in you👈 “But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that 👉the Spirit of God dwell in you👈. Now if any man have not 👉the Spirit of Christ,👈 he is none of his. And if 👉Christ be in you👈, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. But if 👉the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you👈, 👉he that raised up Christ from the dead👈shall also quicken your mortal bodies 👉by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.”👈 -Romans 8:9-11 "And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the 👉Spirit of his Son👈into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father." -Galatians 4:6 Continue in the Son, and in the Father.🔥
@speedoflink
5 жыл бұрын
Mark .Rahe43920 Thank you. It still does not make it logically coherent.
@JuanLopez-rl7ry
5 жыл бұрын
@@speedoflink in the old testament, the angel of the Lord is Jesus Christ
@ruckbuk
Жыл бұрын
Not understanding anything that is in religion is called "blind faith"
@AlfredGallegos-no4pb
3 ай бұрын
because when a person decides to accept jesus as saviour they are being willingly blind because the bible does not contain any so called sinners prayer but does contain acts 2;38 and mark 16 16 just to start with using blind faith as an explenation is a cop out saying im too lazy to open my bible and learn so i will go by what any shmo says to me Gods word really does have the info i can teach an 8 year old in couple of sittings not a bunch of religious talk but bible scripture
@crusaderforchrist5859
5 жыл бұрын
Of course the trinity is unfathomable because our God is unfathomable. But the bottom line is that the Bible supports it so we have to take it as it is, not as we think it should be.
@crusaderforchrist5859
5 жыл бұрын
Dr .Rimal so.... I have 2 questions for you. 1 the trinity says the same. They are one and they have scriptures to support it. So what is your problem? 2. Why are you quoting only a few scriptures that focus on Jesus as a man when there are other scriptures where he claims equality with God? All of scripture reveals who Christ is. Not just parts of it and not just the parts we like.
@crusaderforchrist5859
4 жыл бұрын
@@Alpine1996 how many verses would you like? There are literally hundreds and you can save your bologna sandwich dogma. I've heard it all before. The bible testifies to the divinity of Christ. End of story and the word of God is what we stand on.
@crusaderforchrist5859
4 жыл бұрын
@@Alpine1996 the scripture you gave shows his humanity and there are scriptures that also show his divinity. Therefore to take all of the bible into account you can only come to the conclusion that he was both. Otherwise you are ignoring huge portions of scripture. Either it's all of the bible or nothing.
@thatwhichhasbeen-isthatwhi6575
Жыл бұрын
Embracing the idea that Jesus is God/Yahweh, is nothing short of a travesty. Peace
@wilder11
6 ай бұрын
Dude watching that hypercube animation broke my brain for a second. XD
@rahimerayane4298
Жыл бұрын
If belief in the Trinity was such a necessary condition for being a Christian, why didn’t Jesus teach and emphasize it to the Christians during his time? How were those followers of Jesus considered Christians without ever hearing the term Trinity? Had the Trinity been the spinal cord of Christianity, Jesus would have emphasized it on many occasions and would have taught and explained it in detail to the people.
@truthseeker9110
5 ай бұрын
Because Jesus was not a Christian. He taught the fundamentals of the Torah to gentiles. Paul came up with Christianity, that’s why everyone follows Paul’s teachings (eat pork and shellfish, do not keep the Sabbath, etc.) and worship Jesus (a human like everyone else) as g-d.
@Tops470
4 ай бұрын
No Jesus did teach the Trinity, I am not bible expert but could say definitely that Jesus told bless people in the name of and to the son and to the holy spirit or something like that, It's there in the Bible check it out
@denissutherland3653
5 жыл бұрын
2 Timothy 4 : 4 " They will avert their ears from the Truth, and they will turn to extravagant tales,"
@amirnasibi9881
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@rustyshackelford3590
4 жыл бұрын
What’s that mean
@ManY-in6fz
4 жыл бұрын
Saad Bin Masud he’s not talking about Muslims Islam is a lot simpler than you think if anything he’s talking about the trinity “extravagant tales” having 1 god is a lot more fathomable than 3 gods that’s actually 1 god
@ManY-in6fz
4 жыл бұрын
Saad Bin Masud I never disagreed christians have 3 gods that’s also 1 god read my comment just because we disagree on something doesn’t mean we need to spread hatred fix up religion isn’t about hate it’s about peace 👋🏽
@ManY-in6fz
4 жыл бұрын
Saad bin masud if you think Islam has extravagant tales your clearly not Muslim you might say you are but you’re not unless you believe in Islam
@paultin3302
2 жыл бұрын
The reason why this cannot be explained is because it’s man made Not God , He is One and the same, no other God beside me. No trinity in the bible. Remember God is a Spirit and a Holy One.
@adriangutierrez8177
4 жыл бұрын
“In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:” Colossians 1:14-16
@reflexionesdelabiblia6711
4 жыл бұрын
image of the invisible God...not image on Himself.
"Say: He is Allah the one and only [god], Allah the Absolute [all need Him and He needs none]. He has not begotten [anyone], nor was He begotten. And there has not been a coequal to Him."
@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep
2 жыл бұрын
@@reflexionesdelabiblia6711 No you are confused. Hebrews 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:
@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep
2 жыл бұрын
@@samimas4343 The Koran is the only account that disputes the crucifixion of Jesus a wide spread historical fact across all of history scholars accept. This alone critically hurts the credibility of the Koran.
@bluesclues1083
5 жыл бұрын
We should just accept that we only have a limited undrstanding, "My ways are not your ways and My thought are not your thoughts".
@jerryschneider145
5 жыл бұрын
We can know the truth.
@OurHumbleLife
5 жыл бұрын
No way! I will worship The same singular, self-existing God whom Jesus worships!
@jerryschneider145
5 жыл бұрын
The bible is clear, things are just like they seem, it is mot complicated. Jesus has a Father, he did not pray to himself.
@bluesclues1083
5 жыл бұрын
@@OurHumbleLife Sir, I too worship a singular, one and only GOD. The doctrine of trinity is basically 3 person which is co-equal in everything, Jesus, God the Father and the Holy Spirit. This is my understanding about the Holy Trinity. When we go somewhere else our task, responsibility changes be still our identity is the same. For example My name is trex when I go to school people inside the school calls me trex but classifies me as a student, When I got to my friend house my friends parents call me trex and knows me as a friend.of their child, and when I got home everybody calls me trex while they treat me as a son/part of the faimly. So does my identity changes?, y task and responsibility do but me known as trex remain the same. Thats how I see God, in the old testament we see God there as a father who disciplines his children when they commit mistakes but hears them whenever they ask for help. We see in the new testament God the Son whos life is all about fulfilling his Father's will, and the Holy Spirit who will come after the ascension of Jesus to heaven. This may lack evidences and further clarity but this is my faith and I believe in the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit my God is three person in one. ("Things that are impossible with man is possible with God". Matthew 19:26)
@bluesclues1083
4 жыл бұрын
@@Alpine1996 well with that Sir, may you continue to live a life that is pleasing, holy and acceptable to the Lord... regardless of the differences in beliefs and faith, the truth behind the mystery of the trinity will be revealed in the Day of the Lord. Shalom!
@denissutherland3653
5 жыл бұрын
John 17-23 "I pray for this that the world may realize that YOU sent me, and that YOU loved them as you loved me."
@rfayz733
5 жыл бұрын
God sent all the prophets he doesn't become human send himself..
@andrewchase6748
5 жыл бұрын
@Darth Quantum Jesus Can't just be a prophet because he asked The father to glorify him like he did before Jesus came to earth. That would be blaspheme to God because God does not glorify Prophets or random Men. Jesus Created the world All things were made by him and without him, nothing that was made came into existence. Read the Book of John
@mosa7785
5 жыл бұрын
@@andrewchase6748 But the 12 disciples were glorified and made one with the father, the same glory that jesus received, so are they gods now too?
@4n0nym0u5
4 жыл бұрын
Matthew 27:46 King James Version (KJV) 46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? These verses only prove that Jesus has a God.... LOL. Don't be blind.
@dreameruy9510
4 жыл бұрын
@@4n0nym0u5 Paul said For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, The Man Christ JESUS Very very Clear Verse The MAN Christ JESUS Jesus = Hung and Died on the Cross The Scripture says GOD is not a MAN Now ..... Q= Who is God and What is his Name..?
@xenomorph666x
2 жыл бұрын
The trinity teaches that God asked himself to go to earth to save mankind. Then he agreed with himself and volunteered himself to himself to offer himself. Then God impregnated a woman as himself, with himself. God prayed to himself and glorified himself repeatedly. God strengthened himself and talked to himself. Finally God forsook himself and sacrificed himself to prove his loyalty to himself. While dead he resurrected himself so he could exalt himself above himself. Then he sat at his own right hand and waited till he placed his enemies as a footstool Finally with Satan's forces defeated, God would turn his kingdom over to himself that all things would become everything to himself.
@smalltimer4370
2 жыл бұрын
Very thought provoking observations, though I'd add that Oneness believers fall in the same category as well, and perhaps even moreso, as they believe that Jesus is His own GOD...
@christosgiannopoulos828
5 жыл бұрын
Everyone: You can't explain God using logic. Inspiring Philosophy: Hold my beer.
@thealiachekzaifoundationof3822
5 жыл бұрын
You must convert to the Catholic faith. See my playlist Biblical proof of Catholicism. Vaticancatholic c
@MF175mp
2 жыл бұрын
@Terra tremuit I've heard that orthodox church is the only true church and that the pope is the antichrist. Go figure
@HexValdez
5 жыл бұрын
"............because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.'" (John 14 : 28)
@bestbest91
5 жыл бұрын
If you look at the Greek for the word 'greater' it translates as 'bigger' (in size). Plus if you look at the context, it will confirm why the aforementioned translation is 'bigger'
@PInk77W1
5 жыл бұрын
The Father is greater in relationship not in essence. My dad is greater than me in relationship my dad is equal to me in essence We both have the same last name. We both have DNA We both have constitutional rights We both have life We both have a SS number.
@HexValdez
5 жыл бұрын
Athanasian Creed (A.D. 325 ) We worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity; neither confounding the Person: nor divided in the Substance [Essence]. For there is one Person of the Father: another of the Son: and another of the Holy Spirit. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, is all one: the Glory equal, the Majesty coeternal. Such as the Father is: such is the Son: and such is the Holy Spirit. The Father uncreate [uncreated]: the Son uncreate [uncreated]: and the Holy Spirit uncreate [uncreated]. The Father incomprehensible [unlimited]: the Son incomprehensible [unlimited]: and the Holy Spirit incomprehensible [unlimited, or infinite]. The Father eternal: the Son eternal: and the Holy Spirit eternal. And yet they are not three eternals: but one eternal. As also there are not three uncreated: nor three incomprehensibles [infinites]: but one uncreated: and one incomprehensible. So likewise the Father is Almighty: the Son Almighty: and the Holy Spirit Almighty. And yet they are not three Almighties: but one Almighty. So the Father is God: the Son is God: and the Holy Spirit is God. And yet they are not three Gods: but one God. So likewise the Father is Lord: the Son is Lord: and the Holy Spirit is Lord. And yet not three Lords: but one Lord. . . . And in this Trinity none is afore, or after another: none is greater, or less than another. But the whole three Persons are coeternal, and coequal. So that in all things, as aforesaid: the Unity in Trinity, and the Trinity in Unity, is to be worshipped . . .
@HexValdez
5 жыл бұрын
In Trinitarian doctrine, God exists as three persons or hypostases, but is one being, having a single divine nature. The members of theTrinity are co-equal and co-eternal, one in essence, nature, power, action, and will. Trinity - Wikipedia
@HexValdez
5 жыл бұрын
By the way guys. I'm asking questions because I'm learning here. So I can better know you and understand you. I'm not being adversarial and I'm pretty sure you don't see it that way judging by your thoughtful responses. Thank you for that. Agreed - I'm being lazy in my dialogue by using quotes to ask the question. You have all caught me at busy moments in my day. Peace.
@karolycocsis578
5 жыл бұрын
The trinity is not biblical.It's philosophical.
@doffymingo2187
5 жыл бұрын
Karoly Cocsis 2 Corinthians 13:14
@DawnHub666
5 жыл бұрын
Its way older than the bible and philosophy mate. Its ancient. Its been a concept for thousands of years. It helps expand the boring father concept. Thats why they use it in religion.
@iamhopely4739
4 ай бұрын
🤣🤣...i believe that you are not Christian then...
@honpolyo
Ай бұрын
God is not subject to the laws of his creation like an author is not subject to the events of his story.
@ikedre3308
Жыл бұрын
Soooooo what about when jesus says hes going to pray to his father, what does that mean? Whats the point of jesus praying to himself? Can someone explain? Its like saying im going to send myself text messages
@itapinfomaps6233
Жыл бұрын
The only way to understand the trinity is to lose your sense of logic and become so confused to the point where you accept anything" The mental gymnastics one has to perform in order to accept and believe the trinity doctoring is amazing. As this one Trinitarian says " Trinity is a mystery. If you think you understand it you misunderstand it -Bart Ehrman" There are many Christian denominations that teaches the Trinity. However, notice what the Encyclopedia Britannica states: “Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies.” "Head of woman is man. Head of man is Christ. Head of Christ is God. 1 Cor 11:3 - "After Jesus brings about Kingdom blessings to earth, he will hand over the Kingdom to his God and Father - 1 Cor 15:24 “Jehovah (Yahweh) our God is one Jehovah.”-Deuteronomy 6:4. “You, whose name is Jehovah (Yahweh) , you alone are the Most High over all the earth.”-Psalm 83:18. For I have not spoken of my own initiative, but the Father who sent me has himself given me a commandment about what to say and what to speak.50 And I know that his commandment means everlasting life. So whatever I speak, I speak just as the Father has told me.” John 12:49 “This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.”-John 17:3. “God is only one.”-Galatians 3:20. “My Father is greater than I [Jesus].”-John 14:28. * “Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” .”-John 20:17. “To us there is but one God, the Father.”-1 Corinthians 8:6. “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.”-1 Peter 1:3. “These things saith the Amen [Jesus], . . . the beginning of the creation of God.”-Revelation 3:14. * "No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is at the Father’s side is the one who has explained Him". John 1:18 “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Mathew 7:21 "Moreover, do not call anyone your father on earth, for one is your Father, the heavenly One.10 Neither be called leaders, for your Leader is one, the Christ.11 But the greatest one among you must be your minister" Mathew 23.9 Acts 17 29 “Therefore, since we are the children* of God, we should not think that the Divine Being is like gold or silver or stone, like something sculptured by the art and design of humans. 30 True, God has overlooked the times of such ignorance; but now he is declaring to all people everywhere that they should repent. 31 Because he has set a day on which he purposes to judge the inhabited earth in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed, and he has provided a guarantee to all men by resurrecting him from the dead.”
@lrdcruz
Ай бұрын
Because Jesus is the perfect example of a man and all men are supposed to submit to the father. There is other points I could make too but I don't wanna type all that.
@tylergoldstein
5 жыл бұрын
This channel is amazing. Very well done.
@priscillajervey6134
4 жыл бұрын
You think?
@mafiglendale
Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing this video years ago when I was in my new age phase. ✝️
@billwhite1603
3 ай бұрын
I saw this a year or so ago. It really helped me with what I believed but could not "place". Thank you.
@mr.pizarro8421
5 жыл бұрын
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. John 1:1, 14 KJV
@gerryquinn5578
5 жыл бұрын
How can the Word be with God and be God at the same time> A nd where is the Holy Spirit? There is no trinity in this verse.
@mr.pizarro8421
5 жыл бұрын
1 Timothy 3:16 "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached to the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."
@gerryquinn5578
5 жыл бұрын
@@mr.pizarro8421 I suggest that you look at other translations of this verse.
@benreinicke560
7 жыл бұрын
Always a good day when IP uploads :)
@licellemalngiro8553
Жыл бұрын
It is a mind boggling to understand the all powerful, wise God with my very limited wisdom. But I praise that though I should not understand Him fully, He saved me. Praise the truine God.
@AlfredGallegos-no4pb
3 ай бұрын
OFCOURSE HE DID AFTER YOU SAID I BELIEVE YOU DIED ON THE CROSS AND WERE RAISED THE 3D DAY FORGIVE MY SINS, EXCEPT THE SINNERS PRAYER WAS NEVER TAUGHT TO ANYONE, HE PREPARED 12 APOSTLES THAT WOULD PREACH THE ONLY GOSPEL IN THE BIBLE ACTS 2;38 EPHESIANS 4;5-6 JESUS CHRIST NEVER SPOK=E ONE WORD ABOUT ANT TRINITY BEFORE SOME LIES TO YOU AND GIVES YOU MATHEW 28;19 I WILL TELL YOU BEFORE HAND IT SAYS BAPTIZING THEM IN THE NAME (SINGULAR) FATHER IS NOT A NAME NOR IS SON NOR IS HOLY GHOST THATS WHY (SEARCH WEVE GOT GOOGLE NOW) FOR THE APOSTLES OR ANYONE ELSE BAPTIZING ANYONE UNDER 3 ANYTHING, WHY IS THAT? HMMM OH! BECAUSE THEY KNEW JESUS CHRIST IS THE MIGHTY GOD, THE EVERLASTING FATHER, THE SON ,ISAIAH 9;6 JESUS IS THE OMNIPRESENT GOD JOHN 3;13, THE TRINITY? SINNERS PRAYER? HUMAN GARBAGE MAN HAS NO EXCUSE AT LEAST THE ONES WHO OWN BIBLES COME OUT FROM AMONG THEM AND BE YE SEPERATE TOUCH NOT THE UNCLEAN THING AND I WILL RECIEVE YOU WE DONT RECIEVE HIM OR WORSE ACCEPT? HIM? IMAGINE PROPOSING TO A WOMAN ,NOW SHIRLEY, I HAVE DECIDED TO ACCEPT YOU AS MY PERSONAL WIFE, IVE GOT THIS BOOK HERE, AND NO IT DOESNT SAY TO PROPOSE THIS WAY, BUT PASTOR JACKALOPE SAYS THATS HOW I SHOULD DO IT. (CRICKETS CHIRPING...)
@Chemosh418
9 ай бұрын
If Jesus is god Jesus is the Holy Spirit Jesus is the son Jesus admits he’s not a trinity, Matthew 12:32 contradicts Mathew 28:19 12:32 Jesus says:” those who talk bad about me will be forgiven, those who speak bad of the Holy Spirit won’t. Jesus is not equal nor 1 with either.
@Chemosh418
8 ай бұрын
@@jjw00dw- he also said can the 12 be one as well. You have 13 gods.😂
@kaysonrhodes5482
5 жыл бұрын
Praise the Lord
@redemptionofthebeast50
5 жыл бұрын
Kimmy Rhodes Yes The LORD.. Not Jesus.. Jesus was a great man.
@kaysonrhodes5482
5 жыл бұрын
Redemption Of The Beast Jesus is the Lord
@kaysonrhodes5482
5 жыл бұрын
Redemption Of The Beast You know any man that was crucified and rose from the dead 💀
@redemptionofthebeast50
5 жыл бұрын
Kimmy Rhodes People die everyday & will be brought back to life. God will bring them back to life.
@kaysonrhodes5482
5 жыл бұрын
Redemption Of The Beast Jesus claimed to be God over and over in the Bible He was crucified died and 3 days later he Rose from the Grave and the disciples saw Him they Ate with Him and Thomas touched the nail holes on his wrists That’s all in the Bible Jesus is God.
@alexaguilera2252
2 жыл бұрын
The creator, the creation, and the awareness of it all
@halfassfashion
3 жыл бұрын
This isn’t an explanation; this is a rationalization. I need an explanation, with like scriptural references.
@joop6463
3 жыл бұрын
i mean you can prove it with scripture but explaining how it works to a human would be like trying to explain to an ant how quantum physics works but then with the gap infinitely bigger
@xtheoldnitex
3 жыл бұрын
@@joop6463 understanding who your lord is and who to worship should not be like quantum physics mate
@joop6463
3 жыл бұрын
@@xtheoldnitex no ofcourse not im talking about how it exactly works is like quantum physics
@nevbillett7554
3 жыл бұрын
Scripture does not teach a trinity. Easiest way to begin to understand what scripture does teach is to watch a KZitem video ' The One True God scholar Carrol ' a man who does not yet understand God's plan of the ages but certainly understands who scripture teaches Jesus Christ is. Spirit is God John 4:24 (correct word order from the Greek) God is a title , not a name . Father, Son , Holy are titles , not names . The one true Spirit who is God has many names and titles in scripture.
@OGRaider1
3 жыл бұрын
The Trinity Is One God Three distinct persons, Father Son and Holy Spirit. They all share the one indivisible essence of God but are distinct in their person-hood.
@sandoncrowder7839
2 жыл бұрын
If you don’t understand it maybe it isn’t a divine mystery, but rather it just doesn’t make any sense biblically because it isn’t biblical.
@jb_1971
2 жыл бұрын
Nice seeing people waking up
@jesusstopsbullets5111
2 жыл бұрын
Or maybe you are just stew-pid.🤣🤣
@MMradnane
5 жыл бұрын
Greek mythology forced into the original monotheism of all prophets including Issa/Jesus. The Lord our God is one.
@paulgarduno3127
5 жыл бұрын
Adam (1) was a plural being. To reveal the trinity of God. Eve (2) came out of Adam, then in Genesis 5:3 Adam begot a son (3) on his image, after his likeness. Every human being is a tri-unity. Proved by the science of biology.
@anyaforger8409
5 жыл бұрын
Muhammad is a pedophile.
@user-vm9xz4kv9z
4 жыл бұрын
@@paulgarduno3127 1-Adam begotted more then 1 son 2-Adam, Eve and their children are separate entities, beings and persons
@user-vm9xz4kv9z
4 жыл бұрын
@@anyaforger8409 he wasn't.
@madilee2437
4 жыл бұрын
@@anyaforger8409 he is not a Muslim fool, he is a Oneness Christian. He is quoting bible.
@DannyBridie
2 жыл бұрын
this is the most informative video I've ever seen on this topic. THANK YOU so much for taking the time to make this 🤍
@yoname1887
Жыл бұрын
May I suggest Yahweh's Restoration Ministry called The Unholy Trinity? There is a part 1 & 2; first part Historical and second Biblical.
@Christian-yl4dj
Жыл бұрын
HOLY TRINITY EXPLAINED:- JESUS CHRIST IS TRUE GOD ✝️❤️ Contradiction is "A" and Not "A" at same time. Eg: "Three beings in one being!" Or "Three persons in one person!" is Contradiction. But, Christians (Catholic) beleive that "Three persons in one being (One God)!". It's not Contradiction 💯👍 So that, 1 God = 3 Persons & 3 Persons are God ✝️ In this world, 1 being = 1 Person (Personhood only for Human Beings). But in the case of God, 1 being = 3 persons🔥🔥🔥 ONE GOD EXIST AS 3 PERSONS✨ On the human level one person is one being, and any two persons are two beings. But, God is another dimension. DON'T UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF GOD & HIS TRUTHS. AMEN 🙏 🌹JOHN 14:10 - Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. SON (JESUS) WAS NOT CREATED. HE IS THE CREATOR. IN THE BEGINNING JESUS WAS WITH THE FATHER WITH HEAVENLY BODY AND FATHER CREATED ALL THINGS THROUGH SON (JESUS) ✅ 🌹"Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "Before Abraham was born, I AM" - JOHN 8:58 🌹In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth - GENESIS 1:1 🌹In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God - JOHN 1:1 🌹The word became a flesh & lived here with us - JOHN 1:14 🌹"Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, - GENESIS 1:26 JESUS, MESSIAH ARE NAMES WHICH MEANS SAVIOUR✨. SON (JESUS) & HOLY SPIRIT WAS CAME IN THE NAME OF FATHER CALLED "YAHWEH". (READ 🌹JOHN 5:43, 🌹JOHN 14:26) 💯👍 THE NAME OF GOD IS YAHWEH✨. YAHWEH IS THE ONE & ONLY TRUE GOD 🙏 I BELIEVE IN ONE GOD & HOLY TRINITY ✝️
@mirzaehteshambaig3593
Жыл бұрын
They disbelieve those who say, “God is Jesus the son of Mary.” But the Messiah himself said, “O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Whoever associates others with Allah, Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his dwelling is the Fire. The wrongdoers have no saviors.” They disbelieve those who say, “Allah is the third of three.” But there is no deity except the One God. If they do not refrain from what they say, a painful torment will befall those among them who disbelieve. Quran 5:72-73
@johnnytim6775
10 ай бұрын
@@mirzaehteshambaig3593 the same allah that says the planet is flat? 😂😂
@mirzaehteshambaig3593
10 ай бұрын
@@johnnytim6775 there is a difference between "earth is flat" and "earth flattened for habitat". Well who is your god, is it harari
@richardmanning7601
5 жыл бұрын
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Isa 9:6 (KJV) So this child that would be born, this son (Jesus) is the mighty God, the everlasting Father. Jesus told His disciples that when you see Him, you have seen the Father. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou [then], Shew us the Father? John 14:9 (KJV) There are other scriptures that show Jesus IS the Holy Ghost. This is the difference: Father, Son, Holy Ghost, LORD, Master, Wonderful, Counsellor, Prince of Peace are all titles. There is only ONE NAME, that is JESUS. And all of those titles don't split God into three (or more) persons. Who hath wrought and done [it], calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I [am] he. Isa 41:4 (KJV) Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I [am] the first, and I [am] the last; and beside me [there is] no God. Isa 44:6 (KJV) Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I [am] he; I [am] the first, I also [am] the last. Isa 48:12 (KJV) I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Rev 1:8 (KJV) Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send [it] unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. Rev 1:11 (KJV) And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: 18 I [am] he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. Rev 1:17-18 (KJV) And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. 7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. Rev 21:6-7 (KJV) So the Alpha and Omega (who is) the Almighty (who is) the first and the last (who is) he that lives and was dead, and is alive forever more, said "I will be his God, and he shall be my son." [ - HE WHO WAS DEAD - ] said we will be [ - HIS SON - ] This Jesus who speaks is *clearly* our Father. This is the main confusion: Many cannot discern the difference in the scriptures concerning the flesh of Jesus Christ versus the Spirit of Jesus Christ. The Spirit of Jesus is God, the flesh of Jesus was humanly, then glorified, and is the express image (mirror image likeness, but not the very face) of the invisible God. This is what men like Stephen and John saw: The image of God in the face of Jesus Christ (the glorified body), and one (God the Father) sitting on the throne whom men cannot see face-to-face and live. When Jesus speaks of His Father while He's here on this earth, He speaks of the Father of His (now glorified) flesh. People say; "Jesus Christ is not the Holy Ghost" And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 [Even] the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. 18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. John 14:16-18 (KJV) The Comforter is the Holy Ghost (John 14:26), and Jesus said "I" will not leave you comfortless, "I" will come to you. He is the Comforter, the Holy Ghost. This scripture also says the Holy Ghost is the Spirit of Truth. Jesus said the Spirit of Truth "dwells with you" (Jesus at that time was dwelling with, but not in, the disciples) "and shall be in you". Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6 (KJV) This is he that came by water and blood, [even] Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. 1 John 5:6 (KJV) Jesus is the Truth. The Spirit is Truth. So Jesus is the Truth, which is the Holy Ghost / Holy Spirit. People say; "The Father is not the Holy Ghost" But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. 20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you. Matt 10:19-20 (KJV) But when they shall lead [you], and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost. Mark 13:11 (KJV) The Holy Ghost is the Spirit of your Father, The Father is the Holy Ghost. There are more, and as soon as God reveals this to you, you will find that the entire Bible explains it as clear as day. I mentioned a confusion many have between the spirit of Jesus Christ, and His body. Remember that Jesus said "why do you call me good? None is good, except one, that is God." Jesus referred to his flesh in saying he was not good, and that's the only way this scripture can be understood. Jesus was sinless, and ONLY did what His Father said to do - there was not a greater example of "goodness" on this earth. So for Him to say "none is good" and include himself meant that he was referring to his flesh, even as he said in another scripture. It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life. John 6:63 (KJV) So the flesh of Jesus prayed to the Spirit of God, because God is a spirit. This is the great struggle in the Garden of Gethsemane, where the flesh was trying to "have it's way". Jesus had to pray three times for him to finally have the strength for the Spirit of God to overcome his flesh. Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed [is] willing, but the flesh [is] weak. Matt 26:41 (KJV) The Spirit of Jesus Christ was willing, but his flesh was weak. This is also why Jesus cried on the cross "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" Spiritual death is separation from the spirit of God. In this moment, the Spirit of God had left Jesus. Jesus tasted death for every man (Hebrews 2:9). Jesus on the cross tasted separation from God for every man, so we would not. And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace [be] unto you. 37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit. 38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? 39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. 40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them [his] hands and [his] feet. Luke 24:36-40 (KJV) So Jesus, even after being glorified, did not appear to the disciples as a naked Spirit, but as a glorified body (flesh and bone, which had ascended into Heaven, and did ascend again). Jesus explicitly stated in this meeting that a spirit does not have flesh and bone. This (glorified) body is what Stephen saw when he said he saw Jesus standing on the right hand of God. This is also what John saw in Revelation. When you read the Bible you will see that even John did not see the face of God (for no man can see the face of God and live), but he did see the face of Jesus - the express image of the invisible God. God said that He had engraved us on the palms of His hands. What hands? The physical hands of Jesus. Can a woman forget her sucking child, that she should not have compassion on the son of her womb? yea, they may forget, yet will I not forget thee. 16 Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of [my] hands; thy walls [are] continually before me. Isa 49:15-16 (KJV) The nail scars in Jesus' hands show that the hands of God are the hands of Jesus. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one. John:17:22 I and my Father are one. John:10:30 3 entities. God the FATHER, God the SON, and God the HOLY SPIRIT. ONE diety= GOD. Jesus Christ was God. Because only God was sin-less. Only God was the perfect sacrifice for our sins. By him saying he sent his "Son" he sent the holy Spirit to dwell within flesh (Mary) and be born into flesh. Thus you get (Jesus Christ) a man in the flesh, but 100% God in the spirit. How else can you explain him being sin-less his entire life? He committed not one single sin...think about that. If you think about someone lustfully that's a sin and you're CONDEMNED according to God's holy standards. Jesus Christ committed no sins. Because he is God. He's simply one entitie of God. If you wanna know the truth there's 7 spirits of God in flaming fire. And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. Revelation:5:6
@mikebrown5648
5 жыл бұрын
Richard Manning may the Lord bless you posting that and blessed be his name
@richardmanning7601
5 жыл бұрын
@C S So your saying Jesus was not fully God and fully man? That Jesus isn't God? Because that is what it sounds like to me. I'm disagreeing with this picture to try and explain the trinity and it's saying that the Father is not the Son and the Son is not the Father or any of them are not the Holy Spirit; all three make up God. God is the Father, God is the Son, and God is the Holy Spirit.Isaiah 7:14: “Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.” "Immanuel” literally means: “God with us.” Matthew 1:23; Jesus was “God with us.” Jesus said Himself; I and the Father are ONE, John 10:30. If Jesus is not God, then why do we worship Him when the scripture says we are to only worship God. Even Jesus said in Luke 4:8; "Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.'" All through the new testament we see people worshiping Jesus and He accepted that worship. Worship means “reverence paid to a divine being.” If Jesus was offered and accepted worship, then by doing so He was confirming His divinity. The fact is Jesus Himself claimed to be God; the religious leaders recognized this and this is why they wanted and did kill Him. Now either this Jesus was crazy, or He is truly who He says He is; GOD Himself. I could go on all day, but i won't. God Bless you as you seek the truth in God's Word
@richardmanning7601
5 жыл бұрын
@@mikebrown5648 God Bless you Mike. Praise the Lord !!
@IslamTheTruth5147
5 ай бұрын
If we can't comprehend what we are worshiping how am I supposed to become a Christian?
@asvt321
5 ай бұрын
You’re not supposed to
@redditfeed2024
5 ай бұрын
Then why would God create everything in the world with logic, give us a logical mind, and then be illogical Himself?@@asvt321
@DR_Sam_YouTube
5 ай бұрын
Being a Christian simply means you accept Christ, you don’t have to comprehend him to know he’s there, and that you should worship him.
@Daniel_Godismyjudge--Isah33.22
5 ай бұрын
@@redditfeed2024 Peace be with you Friend ❤️ God is Beyond Space & Time. We can only comprehend stuff that is within our Logic. Romans 11:33-36 KJV [33] O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out! [34] For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor? [35] Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again? [36] For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen. ❤
@MountainFisher
Жыл бұрын
I always thought of the Trinity in the shadow of our minds. Who is listening when you're thinking and who is doing the talking and where are these feelings coming from? We cannot fathom the mystery of our own minds so it seems we are not going to fathom the Mind of an eternal Being who has existed forever.
@bobbymoore3862
Жыл бұрын
It's not the represent the creators on humankind on earth, they are not the almighty creator.. the Annunaki made us and gave us Christianity as a gift. Anu- The Father, Enki- The Son, Enlil- The Holy Spirit
@azizm.a3460
4 жыл бұрын
I have a question: if Trinity is illogical to understand how God expect from me to worship or believe what I can’t understand & why he would punch me for not understanding ?!! Isn’t Almighty God Fair & Just Judge ?!! 💞🤷🏻♂️
@TorahisLifeandLight
4 жыл бұрын
CASE IN POINT: The false doctrine of the trinity is such a "mystery" that pastors don't even know it or explain it they said. LOL Why would you believe something that is such a mystery that your teachers don't even know it or can't explain it??????? It's like somebody asking you to kill yourself? No right? Can you really explain the trinity as a Christian? LOL I laughed because million of christians can't. If you don't know how to explain it...most likely you joined a religion out of fear. If you knew the truth, the truth will set you free. Fear or ignorance is not justified. Watch my channel videos , i explain the Hebrew Messiah since Christianity called it a mystery.
@TorahisLifeandLight
4 жыл бұрын
@L Lawliet That's a rhethorical question. I can tell you this. God will not contradict himself. He is not a God of confusion but truth.
@TorahisLifeandLight
4 жыл бұрын
@Testament Faith LOL because you say so???? what should i say about you? you think, you are right ? prove it.
@TorahisLifeandLight
4 жыл бұрын
@Testament Faith We as Jews have the Hebrew Scriptures way before Christianity came into the Picture in 325AD. The Roman emperors started christianity after they destroyed Jerusalem in 70AD, they had to destroy our Nation in order to destroy the true worship that the Apostles established in Jerusalem not Rome. The Roman emperors invented the trinity doctrine in 325AD through 480AD it took them a long time to come up their philosophical neo-platonic lies. I think you are the heretic since you roman christian church stole our Scriptures from us and invented a million copies to mislead and confuse the World. We still have our Scriptures in Hebrew and Aramaic for 3,000 years without changing it like Christianity does.
@mangaTV110
3 жыл бұрын
@@TorahisLifeandLight aren't you guy's still waiting for the Messiah? How's going dude? Y'all gonna get the wrong messiah(666,the beast)coming at the end times...and are you fully the descendant's of moses coz if not then you're basically just a bait that's feed for using at the end times lol
@positivechange2000
3 жыл бұрын
It's also worth mentioning that I do not think God would want us to stew over the trinity either. as it seems more of an informational point than it being something that's absolutely necessary to fully comprehend in order to get His message. It's similar to Him "speaking" everything into existence. It's not so important HOW he did it, as we most likely wouldn't be able to comprehend it anyway. No, instead the critical element is THAT He DID speak everything into existence.
@Cotronixco
2 жыл бұрын
Keeping Jesus intact is crucial. The false jesus that trinitarians have developed in their minds cannot save them. They will all end up arguing with the real Jesus after the 7th day when raised, just before being consumed in the fire.
@douglasmcnay644
2 жыл бұрын
If God decided to reveal something about His own nature/character/personage, we should pay very close attention to what He says. The first few hundred years of church history were rampant with heresies, many of which denied the divinity of Christ in one way or another. With that in mind, we should be very interested in figuring this out and verifying our understanding with Scripture because if we wrongly believe that Christ was a created being or became God or another god, then it amounts to idolatry or worse.
@nox567
2 жыл бұрын
@@Cotronixco all I hear are opinions. You'll have to account for Jesus claiming attributes of GOD while explaining that he's not that just cause you can't comprehend it
@Cotronixco
2 жыл бұрын
@@nox567 Jesus NEVER claimed to be God. Satan has many humans making this claim to fool you. You want Scripture? Let's see how serious you are about this. Jesus is NOT God. He is the radiance of God’s glory, and the exact representation of his being (Hebrews 1:3). Nobody has ever seen God. People have seen Jesus. God cannot be tempted. Jesus was tempted. God demands worship. Jesus desires not to be worshipped. The immortal God cannot die. Jesus died. Jesus humbled Himself greatly. God has no reason to humble Himself. Jesus arrives on this earth 1,000 years before God arrives. Trinitarians can’t explain this. Who is the head of Christ? God is the head of Christ. 1 Corinthians 11:3 John 17:3: Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God; and Jesus Christ, the one you have sent. Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Worship GOD and serve HIM only.'" Luke 4:8 Jesus said, “Why do you call me good? No one is good but God ALONE” Luke 18:19 Jesus is referred to in the New Testament 72 times as the Son of God, and 0 times as God the Son. Did Christ send Himself to the world? God sent Christ to the world. John 17:3. In John 7:16 Jesus said, “My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.” Thomas acknowledged both Christ Jesus and His Father, Almighty God, after witnessing the most amazing miracle ever. Sorry, but that does not make them the same being. Is God one or two or three? God is one. There can only be one true God. It is undeniable that Jesus referred to himself and His God as separate beings. This is a most fundamental of Biblical teachings. Jesus always very clearly pointed out his subservience to God; in power, teaching and life itself. To assert their equality is untenable. If Jesus is God, who is the God of Jesus, and who did Jesus say was His God? The Father. Mark 15:34; John 17:1a,3, 20:17, 21:17; 1Pe 1:3; Rev 1:6, 3:2, 12 Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.” Did Jesus partially die or fully die? He fully died. If Jesus did not fully die, then the resurrection has no value. Did anyone see God at Christ's first coming? No one has seen God except the Son, John 1:18. The saints will see God after 7 days. Also, John 5:37; 6:46; I Tim. 6:16; I John 4:12 Jesus didn't raise Himself. He was dead. God raised Jesus - Acts 2:24, and many more. God is the Father and Christ is the Father's first Son. They are one in purpose, but Jesus is not God. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus. 1 Tim 2:5 Who is greater: God the Father or Jesus? God is greater. John 14:28 The disciples were made one with Christ. Are they God? Jesus and God are one - John 10:30; The disciples are one - John 17:22; My wife and I are one - Eph 5:31. Mortality and immortality are mutually exclusive characteristics. Who did Peter say that Jesus was when Jesus asked? God? No, God's Son and our Savior. Matthew 16:16; Mark 8:29; Luke 9:20. Did Jesus blow the perfect opportunity to reveal that He was God? Who is higher than Jesus Christ? The only thing now higher than Christ is God himself. 1 Cor 15:27-28. Is Jesus God, or God's Holy Servant? Acts 4:27&30 Why have the only Scriptures that seem to say that Jesus is God been changed to appear that way? How do you feel about added text about Jesus in some translations, such as "who is himself God" in John 1:18, or “in very nature God” in Philippians 2:6)? Why did Jesus never claim to be God? Were the Romans the first to proclaim Jesus is God? The Jewish leaders made the exact same mistake just before they killed Him. If Jesus is God, then are the ex-blind man and Paul also God? John 8:58, John 9:9, Acts 26:29. They all stated the exact same thing: It is I. But apostates changed ONE of the times Jesus said it to, I AM! Do we come to God through God? Did God pray to God just before the immortal God allowed the immortal God to die? Paul stated in 1 Cor 8:6 that there is ONE God and ONE Christ. Was he confused? God placed all things into the hands of Jesus; he came from God, and was going back to God - John 13:3 God is the Father, and Jesus is the Christ - 1 Corinthians 8:6 Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent. John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. 1Tim 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. Acts 5: Is Peter God? It makes no sense to wrap up a discussion in John 1 about how God came down to earth in the flesh by saying that no man has ever seen him. John 1:18 "No man has seen God at any time. Jesus, who is now with the Father, has made God known." Some NIVs state, "No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known." This addition (like all the others) is HERESY. John 14:1b: Jesus said, "Trust in God. Trust also in Me." Would it have made any sense for Him to say, "Trust in Me. Trust also in Me." Luke 2:52 Jesus grew in wisdom and gained God's favor. Did he gain His own favor? Matthew 3:16 Jesus was baptized and received the Holy Spirit. He received Himself? Luke 6:12 "One day soon afterward Jesus went up on a mountain to pray, and he prayed to God all night." So, if Jesus is God, who was God praying to all night? To himself? John 7:16 Jesus said to his enemies: "My message is not my own; it comes from God who sent me." So, if Jesus is God, why would God lie and say that his message was NOT his when it really was his? Matt 17:4, Peter said to Jesus, “Lord, it is good for us to be here. If you wish, I will put up three shelters-one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah. Now, if Jesus were God, why did Peter group Him at the same level as Moses and Elijah? And Peter, the one who the Romans claim fathered their "church," didn't know Jesus was God, but the apostates do? John 14:28b If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. Thomas acknowledged both Jesus and God in his amazement (John 20.28). John records two other occasions when Jesus’ antagonists accused him of making himself out to be God, and both times Jesus then denied it (John 5.18-47; 10.30-37). Acts 2:32-33: God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of it. Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear. This is just the tip of the iceberg. There are hundreds of Passages proving Jesus is not God, and ZERO proving He is. As you can plainly see, although the two are in complete agreement, Jesus is not God. The Romans concocted the trinity. Study. Don't be fooled. All the saints have heeded Rev. 18:4: "Come out of her, my people.”
@praisegodpraisehim3622
2 жыл бұрын
Did u even watch the video @contronixco
@haichah
Жыл бұрын
If what you say is true, then God chose not to give us the mental capacity to understand him. He gave us logic, wants us to use that logic and now wants us to go against that logic! That is a huge problem and is something a merciful god would never do.
@KingPingviini
Жыл бұрын
Not against human reason, it's just beyond human reason.
@haichah
Жыл бұрын
@@KingPingviini it literally goes again human reason, theres no denying it. If it was beyond us, we wouldn't come to the conclusion that it is a logical contradiction
@rainman7769
Жыл бұрын
Deuteronomy 6:4 (KJV) Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: It's a simple teaching.
@tororo76
Жыл бұрын
Yes it is one, who can manifest in 3 form when he play different role Like your brain and heart are the manifestation of 1 thing, which is your dna, we can find your dna in boths , but tho they look so different cause it's a different manifestation of the 1 thing but that 1 thing play different roles
@rainman7769
Жыл бұрын
@@tororo76 don't tell me philosophy, Jesus was clear, he said ONE not THree, that teaching is in the third century.
@tororo76
Жыл бұрын
@@rainman7769 it's not philosophy it's pure logic, i just explained you, i did not denie god is one but I say not that he is one that he cannot manifest in different way💀 I'm just showing you an example So for you the brain and the heart doesn't have the same DNA?😂
@rainman7769
Жыл бұрын
@@tororo76 tell me where's is it in the Bible Jesus talking about it, never did it's from anthesis in the Romans Time.
@tororo76
Жыл бұрын
@rain man 🌧️ He say for example that his kingdom is in the sky Then pantiu plat told: ohh so you're a king? Who is the king of the sky? God Isn't it logical ? The messiah mean King, that why Jewish hated him cause he said he was the messiah which they didn't believe It's something logical Jésus was never à King on earth, that why he clarified he is in the sky
@KohuGaly
7 жыл бұрын
The concept of trinity is illogical almost by definition. Two things cannot both be the same thing and not be the same thing (law of noncontradiction). They might be two instances of the same category of things, but in that case they are not the category itself. Self-referencing statements do exist, but result either in paradox or circular reasoning and thus violate either law of non-contradiction or excluded middle. Examples: "This statement is true." "Set of all sets that contain themselves." "Program that can in finite time determine whether given program ends in finite time." These all are indeterminate and their complements are paradoxes. Unlike your analogy of tesseract which can be demonstrated to exist by adding additional dimension, these statements can't be ultimately fixed by adding new amendments.
@benfrankdalist2709
5 жыл бұрын
Got everybody of Earth tryin to figure this out.
@jamesstubits3274
5 жыл бұрын
read MY post Ben.Thanks!
@GH-el9ch
4 жыл бұрын
It's actually quite easy man is body soul and spirit we are made in God's image God is body soul and Spirit... Jesus is the body the only one that has a body... The father is the mind or the soul... The spirit is the Spirit... Is your spirit you or is it someone else...?? God's Spirit as him
@incorruptibleword4513
4 жыл бұрын
He reveals himself to those seeking him, not knowledge for knowledge sake not religion or theology but him. The father seeketh such to worship him as they that worship in spirit and in truth. Who seeks? Oops I gave it away what a mystery 🙄
@priscillajervey6134
4 жыл бұрын
It's NOT God's truth, that is why no one can understand leas t of all explain it- that is why it is accepted as a....mystery!!!!! The most absurd doctrine of christendom.Satan's big LIE.
Don’t say about any higher dimensions cos Mark 1, John 1 with a depiction of the baptism of Jesus says about three separate entities - the Father in heaven, the Spirit which appeared as a dove and Jesus a spirit in flesh. You consider some other dimensions while there’s nothing to support it based on passages from the Bible while it’s said about the spirit or the angel of the Lord. You’d also fall into a BLASPHEMY by saying that God is beyond any limitation of dimensions so then you’d say that there are NUMEROUS PERSONS so not only three.
@BigTimeFaith
7 ай бұрын
The bible is crystal clear that there is ONLY ONE GOD and He is one person.
@VGKFAN37
7 ай бұрын
Read the New Testament.
@BigTimeFaith
7 ай бұрын
@@VGKFAN37 - thanks for the feedback. According to the New Testament - Jesus stated clearly that He has a God, and that Jesus worshipped His God with fear.
@BigTimeFaith
7 ай бұрын
@@VGKFAN37 - and this is the life age-during, that they may know Thee, the ONLY TRUE GOD, and him whom Thou didst send-Jesus Christ (John 17:3)
@noahcole6856
7 ай бұрын
@@BigTimeFaithdo you not believe Jesus is God
@BigTimeFaith
7 ай бұрын
@@noahcole6856 - I believe the same thing that Jesus believed about the *only true God*
@AristotleWasHere1
3 жыл бұрын
Nice attempt at explaining the impossible. The title may as well been called 3 sided square explained. Jesus is God all others are frauds!
@AristotleWasHere1
3 жыл бұрын
@ agree with your link 100%
@AristotleWasHere1
3 жыл бұрын
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@Chomper750
3 жыл бұрын
God gives us limited imagery (or shadow) of how 3 persons could be one by citing the institution of marriage. Two persons becoming one.
@rfayz733
3 жыл бұрын
Everytime you try to explain trinity you end up mocking god. That's not healthy
@ulti8106
3 жыл бұрын
Well all i can say is don't bother trying to understand it like he said is unfathomable look what an angel told to Saint Augustine (354-430) The story goes as follows: While Augustine was working on his book On the Trinity, he was walking by the seaside one day, meditating on the difficult problem of how God could be three Persons at once. He came upon a little child. The child had dug a little hole in the sand, and with a small spoon or seashell was scooping water from the sea into the small hole. Augustine watched him for a while and finally asked the child what he was doing. The child answered that he would scoop all the water from the sea and pour it into the little hole in the sand. ‘What?’ Augustine said. ‘That is impossible. Obviously, the sea is too large and the hole too small.’ ‘Indeed,’ said the child, ‘but I will sooner draw all the water from the sea and empty it into this hole than you will succeed in penetrating the mystery of the Holy Trinity with your limited understanding.’ Augustine turned away in amazement and when he looked back the child had disappeared
@alexanderhicks4150
2 жыл бұрын
The word Trinity is only in the"King James version" can anyone tell me why?
@Otome_chan311
2 жыл бұрын
It's a later addition.
@alexanderhicks4150
2 жыл бұрын
@@Otome_chan311 I know that sir, approx. 300 years after the death of Christ. It's only in the KJV buddy. Do your research
@alexanderhicks4150
2 жыл бұрын
@Kafke I know my research. Thank you for your affirmation. So tell me why it's an addition if it's God's words? You can't mix deiven words with humans. It creates contradictory statements. Ie. The Trinity...
@denissutherland3653
3 жыл бұрын
JOHN 17 : 6 “I HAVE REVEALED YOU TO THOSE WHOM YOU GAVE ME OUT OF THE WORLD. THEY WERE YOURS ; YOU GAVE THEM TO ME AND THEY HAVE OBEYED YOUR WORD. NOW THEY KNOW THAT EVERYTHING YOU HAVE GIVEN ME COMES FROM YOU. ”
@@EGMAG In order to be saved from the lake of fire you need God to have given you faith ie the blessed ability to hear, see meaning to understand God speaking through His representative Jesus who also has representatives speaking worthily for him, his spiritual brothers.
@PaulYoung-in-the-house
Жыл бұрын
The Nicene Creed says, “God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one being with the Father.” “begotten, not made”. Literally, “begotten” and “made” are the same. Doesn’t “begotten” imply “made”? So literally this verse is contradictory. “begotten, not made”. So there must be a profound meaning to this verse, that is: At a certain point many lifetimes ago, the Christ was begotten of the Father. Through practice in many lifetimes, He has eradicated all sins and sinful nature, and fully restored divinity and spirituality. The full divinity and spirituality of the Christ were not made, so He was not made. The reason why it can be explained in this way is because there are many lifetimes. Without many lifetimes, there’s no way to explain “begotten, not made”. Many lifetimes after being begotten, eventually the Christ was not made. Without “many lifetimes”, “begotten” and “made” would be the same. So this explanation is at least understandable in theory. --Light of Wisdom Church《The Trinity |God from God, Light from Light|Reincarnation | I Am the way, the truth and the life 08》
@xalbendeagle6640
11 ай бұрын
Unfortunately Bobby’s perspective didn’t listen, he’s too busy learning the ‘truth’ by posting hundreds of videos misunderstanding this topic
@JustaRandomCatholic
11 ай бұрын
He is a muslim dude said he was a Christian but doesn't even go to church
@xalbendeagle6640
11 ай бұрын
@@JustaRandomCatholic it doesn’t matter whether he’s a Muslim, Christian or whatever else, misinformation is still a problem
@TaaJew
5 жыл бұрын
"Me and my Father - we're one" Jesus Christ ;)
@mohamednsiri7713
5 жыл бұрын
lol
@Ether-pb5gb
5 жыл бұрын
John 17:21 "That they (the apostles) all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me." So does this mean that the apostles are also ONE with the Father and the Son, are the apostles also God, manifested in the flesh? The Son and the Father are not two different forms of the SAME being. They are TWO forms of TWO beings!
@madjack821
5 жыл бұрын
Well, they are both God, so there’s that....
@Ether-pb5gb
5 жыл бұрын
I am no scriptorian by any means. But as I was reading in the gospel of Matthew, around chapter 19, I started making note of references in the scriptures that make me think that the father and the son are two separate persons. Does anybody have any thoughts on Matthew 19:7, 20:23, 21:37, 23:9, 24:36, 25:34, 26:31, 39, 42, 53? I wish I would have made a list of everything that I saw prior to Matthew chaper 19. The list was quite extensive.
@madjack821
5 жыл бұрын
Ether 12:27 one key scripture that helps us see the distinctions in the Trinity are the verses which describe Jesus’ baptism. The Father and Holy Spirit are there with Jesus, the Son, simultaneously.
@ChaarawtazaAibad
Жыл бұрын
You didn’t use ANY scriptures in this lesson. Lets see why: Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
@follow_the_way
Жыл бұрын
There is only 1 God. Praise the triune God.
@agape832
Жыл бұрын
I love Isaiah 44:6, because when paired up with Revelation 1:17-18, and Revelation 22:12-20 it clearly shows the deity of Christ Acts 20:28: Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. So Jesus (the Word) is God. Also if Jesus isn’t God, how to do you explain John the apostle writing that Jesus Christ is equal to God the Father? (John 5:18) For a created being to be equal to God is literally blasphemy. Every time Jesus says the Father is greater, this is in authority (see Philippians 2:7) NOT nature (as their same nature is revealed in John 1 and John 14:9). Also, Jesus is referred to as the creator of all things, first in John 1, and also in Colossians 1:15-19. The firstborn of creation doesn’t mean first created, firstborn of creation shows his preeminence and sovereignty over all of creation. For the LORD created the universe (Psalm 102:25-27). And only the LORD created the universe, it is stated in Isaiah 44:24: Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself; As a result, if Jesus created everything, and only the LORD created everything, this means the LORD (YHWH) is Jesus. The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are all YHWH. There are many many more examples… like literally, YHWH is Lord of lords (Deut 10:17), and there is only one who is able to be called that. There is only one Lord of lords. But look, Jesus Christ is also called Lord of lords (revelation 17:14, 19:16) The scriptures say only YHWH searches the hearts of men (1 Kings 8:39; Jeremiah 17:9-10), yet, Jesus Christ does this also (John 2:24-25; Rev. 2:18-23) Hebrews 1:8 shows the Father calling the Son God. But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. God bless.
@ChaarawtazaAibad
Жыл бұрын
@@agape832 You think the word GOD means the same thing as The LORD in the Bible?
@agape832
Жыл бұрын
@@ChaarawtazaAibad LORD in all caps in the bible is YHWH who is the Most High God, hope this helps 👍
@anniebodyhome1000
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, IP, for a relatable explanation. So helpful. I had no idea this topic was so divisive until I read some of the comments.
@jeffstewart1668
4 жыл бұрын
Should look into Roman and Greek myth to start with . Because it not in the Bible NO WERE
@Dexuz
4 жыл бұрын
@@jeffstewart1668 The Bible is not in the Bible, is the Bible false then?
@jeffstewart1668
4 жыл бұрын
@@Dexuz You no how to ask something . I believe there is truth in and out of the Bible . We should be open to new thing . If we seek something we may find it . And the world will hat you for it .
@Dexuz
4 жыл бұрын
@@jeffstewart1668 Then don't use "It is not in the Bible" as an argument. Jesus happen to have called Himself the I Am, the Alpha and the Omega, just as many times as He called Himself the Son of God. People have called Him the Lord, the one true God, and the Almighty. That proves that Jesus is different from the Father while at the same time being God himself.
@jeffstewart1668
4 жыл бұрын
@@Dexuz Wil you just have to say who is the man that sit on the right side of God ?
@alizadeh4422
Жыл бұрын
if the father is not the son it means there is at least two different wills and entities, how they can be same one god but different persons :d
@SmalltimR
Жыл бұрын
You are asking the wrong questions to the wrong people :) That being said, your questions are perfectly legitimate, not to mention, indicative of the obvious order of operations established by Jesus Christ on earth. As it turns out, Jesus had a GOD whom He declared to be the source of all things, including the son. And that GOD is none other than YHWH Himself, of whom, and to whom are all things known and unknown.
@itapinfomaps6233
Жыл бұрын
There are many Christian denominations that teaches the Trinity. However, notice what the Encyclopedia Britannica states: “Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies.” "Head of woman is man. Head of man is Christ. Head of Christ is God. 1 Cor 11:3 - "After Jesus brings about Kingdom blessings to earth, he will hand over the Kingdom to his God and Father - 1 Cor 15:24 “Jehovah (Yahweh) our God is one Jehovah.”-Deuteronomy 6:4. “You, whose name is Jehovah (Yahweh) , you alone are the Most High over all the earth.”-Psalm 83:18. “This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.”-John 17:3. “God is only one.”-Galatians 3:20. “My Father is greater than I [Jesus].”-John 14:28. * “Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” .”-John 20:17. “To us there is but one God, the Father.”-1 Corinthians 8:6. “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.”-1 Peter 1:3. “These things saith the Amen [Jesus], . . . the beginning of the creation of God.”-Revelation 3:14. * "No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is at the Father’s side is the one who has explained Him". John 1:18 “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Mathew 7:21 "Moreover, do not call anyone your father on earth, for one is your Father, the heavenly One.10 Neither be called leaders, for your Leader is one, the Christ.11 But the greatest one among you must be your minister" Mathew 23.9 "Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’ Mathew 7:22-23 TRINITY
@bipolarmidget1558
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The father and the spn are of same mind and spirit. Somewhat comparable to a wife and a husband in agreement on an issue or even a society or country in agreement.
@kazumakiryu157
11 ай бұрын
Thanks, Michael! You literally have resources for everything! God bless your ministry.
@renaldo697
Жыл бұрын
*[No Trinity]* *[God Reveals / Not Conceals]* Almighty God *[Yahweh / Jehovah]* is *"not"* Mysterious or Incomprehensible: • *John 1:18* - *No man has seen God at any time;* the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he has *explained [revealed]* him. ■ Genesis 40:8 - Interpretations belong to God ■ Daniel 2:28a & 29 - The God of the heavens is a revealer of secrets ■ Daniel 2:47- The *God of gods* is a revealer of secrets ■1 Corinths. 14:33 - Almighty God is not a God of confusion but of peace. ■ Ephesians 1:9 - God makes known (to his worshippers) the sacred secred (mistery) of what His will is for them. ~~~~~~~~~~ *I Trust Jesus Words... Let Jesus Speak for Himself:* • John 4:22 - Jesus said: You worship what you do not know; *WE WORSHIP* what we know! *(Here, Jesus clearly worships someone higher than himself)* • Luke 18:19 - Jesus said to him: “Why do you call me good? *Nobody is good except one, God*. (Luke 18:19) • John 5:19 - Jesus says: *"The Son can't do anything on his own, only what he sees the Father doing."* • John 10:33 - After the Jewish Leaders attempted to stone Jesus, accusing him of calling himself *"God" (KJV)* ... Why did Jesus correct them by saying, *"I said I am God's Son?"* (verse 36) • John 14:28 - Jesus says: *The Father is greater than I.* • John 17:3 - Why does Jesus call the Father *THE ONLY TRUE GOD*? "This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, *"THE ONLY TRUE GOD,"* [and] the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ." *(Clear Distinction Here)* • John 20:17 - ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to *MY GOD and YOUR GOD.’”* • John 20:28 - After Thomas said, "My God & My Lord," ...Why does "vs 31" say "But these have been written down so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, *THE SON OF GOD?"* • Hebrews 10:7 - It is written about me, I have come to do your will *O God*! • Rev. 3:12 - After Jesus Ascends Back To Heaven, (in Spirit realm) he still calls his Father *"GOD & MY GOD"* (several times): - John 20:17 - on earth - Matt. 27:46 - on earth - Mark 15:34 - on earth - Rev. 1:6 - in heaven - Rev. 3:2 - in heaven - Rev. 3:12 - in heaven [4 times]
@repentnowjesusiscomingsoon7356
2 жыл бұрын
Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the Gospel for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believes.
@andrycanz8693
2 жыл бұрын
I am an atheist but the idea of a triune god is something that i can respect.
@johndevisser903
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You can't explain the trinity by using scriptures alone. The reason is clear. It's a doctrine of devil. A doctrine wich never was teached by God, Christ or by the apostles. One person equals one being. Three persons equal 3 beings. Don't be fooled. God is not a deceiver neither the author of confusion.
@Twenty_jewan22
5 ай бұрын
It makes more sense, but still is hard to wrap my head around, this is a great way to explain it somewhat “better”
@Daniel_Godismyjudge--Isah33.22
5 ай бұрын
Peace be with you Friend ❤️ We will Never fully understand the Trinity, & that's Ok. However, we can understand the Concept of it. Romans 11:33-35 KJV [33] O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out! [34] For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor? [35] Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?
@denissutherland3653
5 жыл бұрын
Hebrews 5 : 7 "In the days when he lived this human life of ours he offered prayers and entreaties to Him who was able to bring him safely through death with strong crying and tears. And when he had been heard because of his reverence, although he was a Son, he learned obedience from the sufferings through which he passed. When he had been made fully fit for his appointed task,he became the author of salvation to all who obey him, for he been designated by GOD a high priest after the order of Melchizedek."
@fidelloza8713
2 жыл бұрын
Jesus offered prayers and entreaties to Him who was able to bring him safely through death (JEHOVAH) 1) Who resurrected Jesus according to the apostles? 2) And who resurrected Jesus according to most Christians now a days? Acts 5:30 The God of our forefathers raised up Jesus, Acts 3:13 The God of Abraham and of Isaac and of Jacob, the God of our forefathers, has glorified his Son and Servant, Jesus Exodus 6:3 King James Bible And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them. And who worship the one who resurrected Jesus and the one Jesus worship now a days? And who dont? John 4:22 Jesus said: You worship what you do not know; WE WORSHIP what we know,
@Episcopalianacolyte
2 жыл бұрын
@@fidelloza8713 it really makes no difference that GOD the FATHER resurrected HIS only begotten SON as to CHRIST being part of the GODHEAD. JESUS is IMMANUEL which means "GOD with us" (Isaiah 7 : 14 NASB, Mathew 1 : 23 NASB). JESUS is GOD'S only begotten SON (John 3 : 16 NASB). No one else can claim to be Begotten of GOD. Through CHRIST all things are created (Colossians 1 : 16. NASB). God is defined as creator in the Oxford Language Dictionary. We are commanded to baptize "...in the name of the FATHER and of the SON and of the HOLY SPIRIT". "Name of" means with the authority of a specific individual in the Greek. Exodus 20 :4 forbids having other gods. If JESUS is a god, it is a sin to baptize by his authority (...and of the SON). At the institution of the last supper, JESUS said "Do this in remembrance of ME (Luke 22 : 19, NASB)." 1st Corinthians 11 : 26 - 30 (NASB) For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the LORD'S death untill he comes. Therefore, whoever eats this bread and drinks this cup in an unworthy way shall be guilty of the, body and blood of the LORD. Both of these commands are forbidden by Exodus 20 : 4 (NASB) which says "You shall not have any gods before me" No other gods exist. None. We are forbidden to believe in other gods. No other gods have authority. None. IF JESUS is called GOD or a god, he is GOD since the first commandment forbids other gods. Then there is the Greek which St. Paul wrote in. The fact that he was consistent not using the definite article, we are able to determine that he said "...the WORD was GOD" and not what the Jehovah's Witnesses bible says. Compare John 1 : 1 and John 1 : 18. Neither have the definite article in Greek and both are not translated as "a god". The Jehovah's Witnesses are anti-CHRIST by the fact they try try to remove HIM from the GODHEAD. They will be required an answer on the day of the LORD. John 3 : 16 - 17 tells us how to fix the problem.
@fidelloza8713
2 жыл бұрын
@@Episcopalianacolyte your funny, JESUS is IMMANUEL which means "GOD with us" So who was with Jesus? Who anointed Jesus? Jesus the son of Jesus anointed himself? Acts 10:38 about Jesus who was from Nazʹa·reth, how GOD ANOINTED HIM with holy spirit and power, and he went through the land doing good and healing all those oppressed by the Devil, because GOD.. WAS.. WITH HIM. Luke 4:18 Jesus reading Isaiah 61: “Jehovah’s spirit is upon me, because HE.. ANOINTED..ME.. to declare good news to the poor. HE.. SENT . .ME to proclaim liberty to the captives and a recovery of sight to the blind, to send the crushed ones away free, Isaiah 61:1 The spirit of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah is upon me, Because Jehovah anointed me to declare good news to the meek. He sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives And the wide opening of the eyes to the prisoners,
@fidelloza8713
2 жыл бұрын
@@Episcopalianacolyte John 3:16 Jehovah sent his firstborn Jesus because Jehovah loved the world so much, and the world decided to completely ignore him. Jesus use Psalm 82 in John 10 to PROVE he is the SON OF THE MOST HIGH and Jesus himself, explained the reason why they called him god, saying if The Father called gods those angels that mislead.. Do you said to me that I blaspheme because I said that I'm his son? JOHN 10: although being a man, make yourself a god.” 34 Jesus answered them: “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said: “You are gods”’? 35 IF HE (JEHOVAH) CALLED ‘gods’ those against whom the word of God came-and yet the scripture cannot be nullified- 36 do you say to me?? WHOM THE FATHER SANTICTIFIED AND SENT INTO THE WORLD !... ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’? Psalm 82: God takes his place in the divine assembly (heaven); In the middle of the gods he judges: 6 “I have said, ‘You are gods, All of you are SONS of the Most High. 7 But you will die just as men do (Rebel Angels)
@fidelloza8713
2 жыл бұрын
@@Episcopalianacolyte you calling antichrist to those who will be saved from judgement, cutting your tongue will be better for you, for your own good, I'm telling you as a friend. Who will be saved from judgment according to Jesus and the apostles? John 5:24 Most truly I say to you, whoever HEARS... my word and .. BELIEVES.. the One WHO.. SENT.. ME.. has everlasting life, and he does not come into judgment but has passed over from death to life. Acts 5:30 The God of our FOREFATHERS.. raised up Jesus, Acts 3:13 The God of Abraham and of Isaac and of Jacob, the God of our forefathers, has glorified his Son and Servant, Jesus Romans 4:24 but also for our sake, to whom it will be counted, because WE BELIEVE IN HIM WHO RAISED Jesus our Lord up from the dead.
@WrightlyDivided
4 жыл бұрын
In the beginning Time Past present future God created the heavens Space Length width height And the earth Matter Solid liquid gas Trinity of trinities
@leonardhunt5677
4 жыл бұрын
Micah 5:2 has a ruler coming 'whose goings forth have been of old, from everlasting ' from before time, even as God existed before time 'from everlasting to everlasting you are God ' Psalm 90:2.
@fathihusain4569
4 жыл бұрын
The concept of the trinity could be a failed attempt to fathom God who is ONE!!
@afroddy
4 жыл бұрын
Three-in-one doesn't bode well either. We can't fathom God, but God does want us to know Him, as much as we can.
@@ibreka1 I do not care about converts as it is a personal experience.
@williamjames4031
4 жыл бұрын
Yes God is beyond our imagination, we cannot fully understand the nature of God. Just like Heaven we cannot fully comprehend heaven or hell.
@jeffconnolly1641
2 жыл бұрын
God is not a triplets. Nor a trinity. The Holy Scriptures teach that God is One.
@AlfredGallegos-no4pb
3 ай бұрын
THE DEVILS HAVE BEEN AROUND WAY BEFORE US AND ARE THE BEST WITNESSES THAT THE TRINITY IS A DEVILS LIE JAMES 2;19 GOD WHO IS JESUS CHRIST IS THE MIGHTY GOD, THE EVERLASTING FATHER ISAIAH9;6 AND GOD, WHO IS JESUS CHRIST BE BE THE ONLY ONE MANKIND WILL GIVE ACCOUNT TO AT THE JUDGEMENT SEAT ROMANS 14;10-12
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