Hello you lovely people. I just wanted to thank you for watching the video, and let you know that I just recently uploaded a video going into depth of whether or not Harry was under the influence of the imperius curse during the triwizard tournament, like some of you have suggested he might have been. So if you liked this video, make sure to check it out! ALSO! A very small percentage of you guys watching are actually subscribed, so if you like the content I would truely appreciate if you'd consider subscribing. Every sub counts when you are a small channel like me, so it would mean the world to me ;) Anyways again, thank you so much for watching. - Love, The Viking Wizard ❤️
@generay6498
Жыл бұрын
They literally only needed Harry’s blood. What if instead of kidnapping Harry you just had Barty crouch jr give a lesson where it’s likely Harry could have been cut. Crouch could go over to him and help clean the wound and secretly collect the blood and then go to Voldemort later that night with it. Then Voldemort can come back completely in secret.
@kingpietro1279
Жыл бұрын
yes but he wasn't able to kill harry potter he lured him there to kill him.
@Netherwolf6100
Жыл бұрын
@@kingpietro1279 True but if Voldemort was revived in secret and the Polyjuice Potion can have the user turn into anyone, with Voldy coming back in full force in secret, all they would have to do is lure Harry to a secluded location by transforming into someone he trusts be it one of his friends or a teacher, and then boom, same events take place but much less complicated and Harry doesn't have a way to get away via Portkey.
@alfrescoAllegory
Жыл бұрын
@@Netherwolf6100 i agree on the part that they have to be so subtle that no one, even Dumbledore, would be misled or at least baffled what exactly they plan on doing, since Dumbledore and others are closely watching Harry and the ones surrounding him. A simple trick of straightforward luring will be discovered early on. One thing I need to clarify is that on the abominable ritual that Voldy wants to do, Harry's blood needs to be forcibly taken (maybe even in him knowing full well what is happening) and rituals relies on this conditions. Tom Riddle Sr. has his bones taken without him knowing since he is dead and Wormtail, though out of fear than loyalty, is still willingly taking a choice to sacrifice his hand as Voldy's servant.
@shanewoody4232
Жыл бұрын
Because that's not dramatic
@random3263827
Жыл бұрын
Voldemort needed not only Harry's blood, he needed Harry. He needed to come back triumphantly and for that, he needed the floor show.
@kylegalen6863
Жыл бұрын
Moody aka Barty Crouch Jr probably would’ve secretly put an imperious curse on Harry because he needed him to participate in order for Voldemort to return. Especially if refusing would’ve lead Harry to his own death.
@thevikingwizard8989
Жыл бұрын
Good point! I'm unsure whether you mean that he DID put an imperious curse on Harry, or he would have done it had he refused? If it is the first I can only suggest this: Throughout the movie and book, Harry never wants to participate in the tournament. However the imperious curse gives the caster total control of their subject. So in this way you could say that it is a possibility. But I doubt it. Barty Crouch jr. (Moody) actually teaches Harry to resist the imperious curse in the fourth book in chapter 15 during class. Therefore I doubt Moody would use the imperious curse on Harry, because then why would he teach Harry to resist it in the first place? Maybe to see if he would be able to use it on him? Who knows, maybe I'll go more in depth with this theory in another video. Nevertheless, thanks for watching Kyle, I truely appreciate it!
@papahamdrew9962
Жыл бұрын
In the book, “Moody” put the imperious curse on all of the students and only Harry was able to break through it. So Moody probably didn’t want to try it again
@sipinthatbub
Жыл бұрын
if they can't break a contract, that sounds like the wizarding world needs better lawyers
@hyro3292
Жыл бұрын
Just take that goblet, call Harry to see it or to give him a candy (in his office or Hogwarts toilet), then teleport with him from to the graveyard and that's it. Simple solutions. He could have done that in the beginning of year, no need to wait the end.
@mynameisntjoe3024
Жыл бұрын
Imo it makes no sense how Harry was binded by the contract. I think if he didnt take part in it nothing would happen If it worked like that then someone might as well put Voldemort's name in the goblet of fire and since Voldemort wouldnt be aware of it he would die
@officialmonarchmusic
Жыл бұрын
It's like the unbreakable vow. You die if you don't fulfill the contract
@mynameisntjoe3024
Жыл бұрын
@@officialmonarchmusic he isnt the one who made the contract. If it worked as you said then they would make a contract in Voldemort's anme which he cant possibly fulfill and kill him that way
@officialmonarchmusic
Жыл бұрын
@@mynameisntjoe3024 It's contrived, but that's how it works
@mynameisntjoe3024
Жыл бұрын
@@officialmonarchmusic if it did then Dumbeldore would put Voldemort's name in here and would kill him this way lmao
@officialmonarchmusic
Жыл бұрын
@@mynameisntjoe3024 Again. I’m not saying there aren’t plot holes here, but yes this is how the goblet works
@BastiatC
Жыл бұрын
Just need to to give harry BS task. "okay you three, go fight a dragon. Harry, hold this lemon. Well done."
@Corpie
Жыл бұрын
two things if you have to put your name in, you shouldnt be allowed to back out if chosen. if you get oranked and someone else puts it in for you, how the hell do you back out
@lonnieeastin6401
Жыл бұрын
That still doesn't explain it. "If he didn't participate, he dies.." Well OK. The dragon task, just run away. The swimming thing, don't jump into the water. The maze thing, just stand there in courtyard. Don't go into the maze. Technically participating, but don't do anything.. He didn't want to be there anyway, as he explains to Ron. I only got through the first couple of books. Is there a better explanation? If he doesn't try to win, he dies? How do you know if he's trying. What if he just terrible at all this. He is 3 years too young to be in the Tri Wizard Tournament. So, the cup can sense whether you're trying? Great movie, though. My favorite.
@kerim.peardon5551
Жыл бұрын
He could have done, but can you imagine the ridicule he would have faced from Malfoy if he had run away? And not just Malfoy; all the Slytherins would have laughed at him openly. And maybe people from a few other houses, too. Griffindors are known for their bravery, after all; it would have been a stain on their reputation. I mean, by this point, he's already survived Voldemort trying to kill him 3 times, plus he's risked being attacked by a werewolf and breaking time itself. So it would be out of character for him to chicken out on the sidelines--especially when everyone, even at his age, expects something brilliant out of him because he's the Wizarding World's golden boy. And when you've beaten Voldemort twice through your own strength of character, what's a dragon or a lake or a maze in comparison?
@lonnieeastin6401
Жыл бұрын
@@kerim.peardon5551 I agree completely. It was in Potter's character to complete when required. I was just saying that he _could_ have not competed. That it wasn't a death sentence to not compete. And the adults in the room would've understood. After all, he's 3 years too young to compete anyway. Dumbodore could've even announced to the crowd what he was going to do; Just so they know that it wasn't Potter's idea.
@doom2797
Жыл бұрын
Unless it’s movie only I think that Barty junior somehow got karkarov to do it. That would explain his wandering into the room and closing the doors suspiciously.
@thevikingwizard8989
Жыл бұрын
Very good observation, I agree that is certaintly a possibility
@alfrescoAllegory
Жыл бұрын
Did Barty have Karkarov do it? I thought it was just Karkarov's shift in guarding the Goblet since they all have to take shifts in guarding it. Karkarov at this point already renounced his Death Eater days that's why he was pardoned from Azkaban and at that time Headmaster of Durmstrang. He went to Snape one time because he was seeing signs of the Dark Lord going back and was nervous about it (the time where Harry Potter saw them in Snape's potions cupboard closet). He was killed later, I think it was part of the radio news. It was Barty Jr disguised as Moody when it was his shift to guard the Goblet.
@stevenpinkston6260
Жыл бұрын
I don't think anything would have happened to Harry had he refused. Yes, it's a magical contract, and yes, consequences are likely, but HARRY didn't enter into the contract. Not-Moody entered him. What kind of horseshit contract allows you to enter someone else's name without their consent and then suffer the penalty for noncompliance?
@thevikingwizard8989
Жыл бұрын
Hey Steven. Like I mention in the video, Barty Crouch Junior/Moody mentions That an exstremely powerful confundus charm is the only thing That could fool the Goblet of fire. So if the charm was used, it would have been able to make the Goblet believe That it was actually Harry who put his name in the Goblet of fire instead of the person That actually did it. Hope This makes sence, otherwise give the video another Watch ;) - The Viking Wizard
@stevenpinkston6260
Жыл бұрын
@@thevikingwizard8989 I get that, but keep in mind that he also tricked the goblet into thinking there was a fourth school (with one entry), and that's why it spit Harry's name out. Surely the goblet has had to deal with incidents where multiple people with the same name entered across multiple schools, and had to be able to keep them straight, so it seems to me that it would apply the 'contract' to the "Harry Potter of whatever-school," not the "Harry Potter that is enrolled in Hogwarts". Just my take on it.
@thevikingwizard8989
Жыл бұрын
@@stevenpinkston6260 Nice take on it! I like your way of thinking. Unfortunately we'll probably never know the real answer. Thanks for sharing your thoughts :) - The Viking Wizard
@OvhanDevos
Жыл бұрын
Why do they even have a thing that forces children to participate once they've signed up. What is this, the military???? Kids make mistakes, let them back out. Imagine like, half way through, a kid has a mental breakdown, but they have to continue or they'll die. What even determines if they're unfit to continue? How do they drop out? Just break Harry's leg and he's out, then heal him.
@jaybro4661
Жыл бұрын
I would like to know what would happen if Harry didn’t participate. (Story wise)
@megaman37456
Жыл бұрын
I mean sure Harry couldn't get out of the tournament but he could've intentionally thrown every single round just to prove he wants no part of it. It's called "Taking a dive."
@jack2631
Жыл бұрын
I'm sure whatever punishment happens, would happen to Harry, but would he die? I assume not as Mcgonagall suggested not making him take part. It's probably bad but I doubt it's death.
@thevikingwizard8989
Жыл бұрын
Good point! However, since there is a chance of getting killed during the tournament, don't you think the risk of not participating should be atleast as big of a risk or maybe even greater? Nevertheless thanks for watching the video Jack, I appreciate it :)
@alfrescoAllegory
Жыл бұрын
I have a theory that even though used a Confundus Spell on the Goblet to trick it that Harry is outting his name as an adult, what if it was not totally fooled, after all, it is an Ancient Artifact using Ancient Magic. It recognized an adult putting his name as Harry Potter, associating the name to that person who placed it, but the one who competes is a young one who seems to be younger one who, in its confused state, has just the same name as the adult Harry Potter it knows. Then, since the adult Harry Potter who supposed to be competing did not compete, then it indeed placed its curse on him and that's why ultimately his plans didn't work completely for Barty (although for Voldy it did partially due to his ritual) and he was found out and given the Dementor's kiss.
@noname-xx5uj
Жыл бұрын
Just destroy the goblet with fiend fire
@anita3997
Жыл бұрын
Please improve your narrating voice. Very good topic but it was difficult listening to you, why are you whispering? Check the Movie Flame and Harty Potter Theory channels
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