And folks wonder why some people are skeptical about vaccines, the FDA, the media, etc.
@hew195050
2 жыл бұрын
Anyone one who trusts any of them is quite naive.
@redonk1740
2 жыл бұрын
There's a difference between skepticism and cynicism. Unfortunately, most people never exercise healthy skepticism until it's too late. People will accept things as true based on authority alone, and when that comes back to bite them, many of those people turn cynical, with a knee jerk reaction to reject any and all evidence to the contrary, accepting alternative unsubstantiated claims from another perceived authority figure. People need to accept responsibility for evaluating the evidence themselves and making decisions based on logical, reasonable, evidenced information. It's disturbing that you have to take what your doctor says with a grain of salt, or read a peer reviewed study (assuming it's even publicly available without a paywall in place) to determine the validity of said study by yourself, but that's the world we live in.
@futureflow8645
2 жыл бұрын
Its should be normal for everyone who’s iq is not limited to be skeptical about everything
@justinc4924
2 жыл бұрын
@@hew195050 so why are you trusting the media outlet known as the JRE
@user-jn3bt3ep3d
2 жыл бұрын
We trust Alt media because it's not scripted or staged
@TheJoker6789
2 жыл бұрын
I once knew a woman that went to a hospice facility to die on over a dozen different medications. They took her off all the medications thinking the end was near, Instead of dying she got well and strong enough to leave that facility and live several more independent good years before dying.
@glendacollins2898
2 жыл бұрын
Happy for her. Retired in 2019 from 23 year career in hospice care and I can vouch for this situation. I used to say then that more people would get well if they could just get a good look over from a competent hospice staff for evaluations like you describe. Yes - we are Overmedication Nation. Most people have really been beat up by the medical establishment by the time they arrive at hospice. It can take awhile to gain their trust after so much abuse.
@SuperJosh3434
2 жыл бұрын
I can
@takingbacktoxic7898
2 жыл бұрын
House of God (fictional account of real experiences working in medicine) sort of details this when it comes to medicine. One of the doctors explains why his department has the least amount of deaths compared to the other departments and he confesses "I make it a policy to treat as few patients as possible. I have found doctors probably kill as many people as they save, so my official policy is do the least amount of medicine as I can."
@blakey666
2 жыл бұрын
@ADHDTV Grammar has fallen to the wayside in the 21st century.
@shanemathews4177
2 жыл бұрын
That happened with my grandma she was on a bunch of pills, it was New Year's Eve she almost died my dad was checking on her he went to the doctor and took her off all pills and she lived a few years more
@f.baccari5227
2 жыл бұрын
I dated one of the Vioxx engineers daughters, he still got an award after the fact and it’s hanging up in his home office in Texas…. These people believe they’re in a class of their own.
@terryscott545
Жыл бұрын
Wow big phama no conscious
@Blake_.Dryden
2 жыл бұрын
My grandmother was the most important person in my life, she raised me. She had been taking Vioxx for a yr or two, and had a stroke that debilitated her. She was told to stop taking it then, but I guess the damage was done at that point. She had another stroke shortly after getting out of the hospital and that one ultimately took her life. She didn't qualify for inclusion in the lawsuit because she had one or two unrelated health problems, non life-threatening. Can you guess how I feel about a health care system built to financially profit from the most vulnerable moments of our lives?
@simonb4689
2 жыл бұрын
Plenty of ppl get strokes without taking vioxx
@garystevens8598
2 жыл бұрын
@@simonb4689 bot
@lizard450
2 жыл бұрын
My father took that shit too. He was in the lawsuit. The people responsible should rot in prison.
@daviddickey9832
2 жыл бұрын
Today we're told that certain things are safe for public consumption and are pushed down our throats basically.
@decespugliatorenucleare3780
2 жыл бұрын
It's hard not to commit felonies when things go like that
@happyhammer1
2 жыл бұрын
Vioxx and how they marketed Oxycontin are prime examples of why you should never blindly trust companies when there is a profit motive.
@loganstroganoff1284
2 жыл бұрын
Trust the science bra just take the jab and then thr next and then the next for the rest of your life!
@homewall744
2 жыл бұрын
So you took those drugs blindly rather than because it was medically recommended by a trust doctor?
@@homewall744 OxyContin and Vioxin were drugs prescribed by doctors genius
@warriorredeemed215
2 жыл бұрын
There will always be a profit motive
@lmn6440
2 жыл бұрын
I love that Joe is having more than one controversial guest about the drug companies. They really don't want these conversations to happen.
@venicebeachsportsnetwork6677
2 жыл бұрын
He even mentioned how socialized healthcare is so much more effective and the US system is designed to sift money for the 1%
@frogface66
2 жыл бұрын
You’ll never see this on cable news because big pharma owns them and dictates what the news actors are aloud to report on.
@alanbolton7803
2 жыл бұрын
@@venicebeachsportsnetwork6677 of course it is. But the sheep are so conditioned to believe otherwise.
@pierrotlavoie
2 жыл бұрын
@@venicebeachsportsnetwork6677 WE have socialized healtcare in canada. We are going in curfew again tomorrow. businesses are going bankrupt because we have to "save" the deffective healthcare system. It cost me around 30k$ each year in taxes to pay for that failing system.
@TheBruceKeller
2 жыл бұрын
Probably why that one Congressman pulled a Jussie and had his crazy person 'admit' he was 'radicalized by Joe and Tucker' lol.
@OldMovieRob
2 жыл бұрын
This is so depressing that drug companies are able to get away with things like this.
@juanappleseed
2 жыл бұрын
Don't be depressed be angry.
@The_yeffy1
2 жыл бұрын
Drive anywhere deep in West Virginia or Kentucky and see how federal government took their jobs and then big Pharma swooped in and took their livelihood... but the self righteous people say things like "oh well they're trumpers who care" or "nobody cared about black people during the crack epidemic".... yet the crack epidemic ended.
@sriddle3569
2 жыл бұрын
Greed
@dtfaaron
2 жыл бұрын
Once we let corps contribute to election campaigns.......... were were f'd. Lobbyists control Washington and give big pharma free roam
@theKillingJokes
2 жыл бұрын
It's also depressing that elected public servant positions that pays ~200k a year are filled with multi-millionaires. I wonder if the two are connected?
@VonBluesman
2 жыл бұрын
I am a victim of a motor vehicle accident knocked over 1/10 of a mile from the point of impact. Dr prescribed Vioxx and it made me sick, bad stomach ache, I stopped use. A friend from water therapy had a terrible reaction and it hurt her stomach so bad she was bent over with stomach cramps and in pain, crying during therapy and had to leave. I told her to quit taking it, she said she was following doctors orders. When you are disabled and drawing worker’s compensation, a lot of doctors force you to take medication and say if you don’t take your meds they will not fill out your Workers Compensation medical forms knowing you will lose your disability payments. Pharma pays docs for prescribing their meds, it is a big racket with crooks in a lot of the medical field, using patients as pawns.
@williamcozart8158
2 жыл бұрын
Motrin will. do that too, so will naproxen or any other nsaid if you don't eat before you take it.
@mera8785
2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah! I didn’t even think of that. They police whether you take the meds and are unwilling to go to alternatives if you’re uncomfortable with the possible side effects when you’re going through wcb or even private disability claims.
@MonicaLovesDogs
2 жыл бұрын
My dad got blood clots in his feet from this, but recovered. A year later my doc wanted to prescribe for a kidney stone. I said I didn’t want it, but she insisted, put some samples in my hand, which I then threw in the garbage as I exited the facility! Big red flag that she wanted to give me even though I told her my dads story. Got a new doctor shortly thereafter!
@newleaf1534
2 жыл бұрын
Bullshit supposedly everybody on the comment section has a story about knowing better and they did the right thing😂
@theluckygamer5236
2 жыл бұрын
@@newleaf1534 there is a good amount of people like this. My family doesn’t take prescriptions unless absolutely necessary.
@guyinthechat9533
2 жыл бұрын
Listen to all of the people right now screaming 'Trust the science' with vaccines as if you are supposed to blindly trust every single doctor you come into contact with. Billions of doctors were telling us that Vioxx is completely safe and prescribing it.
@Vgallo
2 жыл бұрын
It could just be that the dr was ignorant of how harmful they were, these experts are trained to trust the “ studies”, they’re also incapable of thinking critically which is why it’s even more important that patients do, this is just another consequence of a lousy university system.
@wordonthestreet5208
2 жыл бұрын
@@guyinthechat9533 I think the vaccine is safe and trusted because so many countries and body’s have oversight of it. But in America distrust has lead to downfall, radicalism and social fracturing, honestly the officials need to get a grip and learn how to govern a developed nation before the consequences catch up with them.
@erso3302
2 жыл бұрын
It's a good thing these companies would never do something like that for an experimental vaccine. That would be very troubling.
@HeyWatchMeGo
2 жыл бұрын
Good SARCASTIC comment.
@kircheisqwaza3939
2 жыл бұрын
@@HeyWatchMeGo Thats the joke. Stfu and calm down
@lizeggar2421
2 жыл бұрын
@Dim and yet, there are 2 safe drugs that have been in use for so long that their patents have run out. In one case the drug has been given to millions of people as both a prophylactic and as a treatment for over 4 decades. No significant side effects and safer than paracetamol. These drugs were shown to be efficacious against covid in several trials. In one drug there have been over 50 trials showing it is efficacious. Two trials seeming to show it us not. In a meta analysis of those trials, Dr Tess Lawrie, a top scientist in the UK and her team found that the trials were all, except fir the Colombian trial and one other, well conducted . Yet all Western countries rejected these very cheap and effective drugs, going so far as to lie and say that there has been no scientific proof of their safety in treating covid. In fact, there has been more trials and proof of safety than there has been of the vaccines and the new drugs that have been brought out by Pfizer and Merck. The question has to be asked as to WHY this is so. Follow the money!
@shadhenderson6000
2 жыл бұрын
@Dim I know, right? What a conspiracy!
@ericknabenshue5689
2 жыл бұрын
@Dim either that or big pharma had a change of heart over night. They actually want to help ppl. I'm sure the 20 billion more it made than any other drug last year and the projected 58 billion more they'll make of of mandates. ( not including boosters). Will be donated to a good cause. I also now hear they won't mark up insulin and other life sustaining drugs up by over 1000 percent because they no longer care about the money and just want to help
@BirdGuio
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Joe and John very informative. As a cancer survivor and fighter continuous leave for the last 10 years I truly appreciate you continuing to bring light to the surface of the pharmaceutical companies.
@tb9579
2 жыл бұрын
Merck’s lead attorney throughout the entire litigation process was Kenneth Frazier. After he successfully beat back the many lawsuits in which Merck’s liability was initially estimated to be between $20-50 billion, he was eventually rewarded for his efforts by being named CEO, a job he held for over a decade. His cumulative salary + stock payments were well over $100 million during his tenure as CEO….
@kentneumann5209
2 жыл бұрын
He got ripped off too then.
@fireman1226576
2 жыл бұрын
A small price if you consider what a person would get as punishment if they were actually accountable for mass murder
@calvinthestormfreak
2 жыл бұрын
MEDICINE SHOULD NEVER BE POLITICIZED!!!!!!!!!!!!! AFTER I READ ALL GOOD THINGS ABOUT HYDROXYCLOROQUINE AND COVID.... THE SECOND!!!!!!! TRUMP MENTIONED IT IT WAS bad???????????????
@dawnclabaugh3598
2 жыл бұрын
He got his good things in this life, then. Can't say I'm jealous; who the hell needs $100 million to "feel like a man"?
@scottcantdance804
2 жыл бұрын
@@dawnclabaugh3598 I don't think he needed 100 million to feel like a man, he needed 100 million in order to be a monster.
@limitedtime5471
2 жыл бұрын
Terrifying, my father is elderly and trusts his doctor completely, would never question a prescription or do his own research
@edguyrocks5865
2 жыл бұрын
I hear ya. My mom is 82, does well, but same thing. When I was young(80s-early 90's) living at home she had a huge medicine cabinet full. She would save everything. Here's the deal/thought process I see: In her case, as with maybe a substantial amount of older people...They pay a shitload for healthcare/insurance/etc...and I feel my mom wants the most of her dollar and will take what she can because in her mind, she is getting her money's worth. Instead of diet changes/etc.
@albertotorres7746
2 жыл бұрын
Your parents are elderly because the medicine they were given has helped them. Not all medicine is bad.
@calvinthestormfreak
2 жыл бұрын
MEDICINE SHOULD NEVER BE POLITICIZED!!!!!!!!!!!!! AFTER I READ ALL GOOD THINGS ABOUT HYDROXYCLOROQUINE AND COVID.... THE SECOND!!!!!!! TRUMP MENTIONED IT IT WAS bad???????????????
@skeezix8156
2 жыл бұрын
@@albertotorres7746 my wife’s side of the family is full blooded Navajo. All the men lived well into their 80’s and the women early 90’s. None of them had even been to a modern hospital, taken any of this junk being thrown at us today. Hell they didn’t even have electricity until 2016, pumped their water from a well. Lived healthy lives to the end.
@blakekennemer1166
2 жыл бұрын
@@calvinthestormfreak you know it’s made by pfizer right?
@larslover6559
2 жыл бұрын
Again a great podcast. Thank you Mr Rogan for bringing so many great experts and persons to share their passion and work...
@billmilligan7272
2 жыл бұрын
I was working at a pharma software company when myself and a former nurse figured out how the Vioxx crime was perpetrated. We raised the issue and tried to make sure the new software we were building for another pharma giant to prevent this from ever happening there. They balked. They fought back. Ultimately they ended our contract. They wanted to keep the ability to fudge the data in ways that the FDA did not know about.
@DG-xj7pm
2 жыл бұрын
The FDA is prob crooked too. Anything with tons of funding and profit is most likely dirty.
@abelucious
2 жыл бұрын
The FDA most likely knew about it and were complicit , their track record is horrible.
@MaddRezz
2 жыл бұрын
ibuprofen should be pulled from market if vioxx is but people would go mad
@billmilligan7272
2 жыл бұрын
@@abelucious I don't think they did. A conspiracy at that level of collusion would have been impossible to keep under wraps as long as it was. What my coworker and I discovered could have been done by one or two people with database access to the diagnostic thesaurus and some modelling software, plus somebody higher up giving the orders. What I learned in my five years in the pharma industry is that there are a lot of people both in private companies and in government who really do care about patients ... and a few assholes on top whose incentives are only about stock prices no matter who gets hurt.
@billmilligan7272
2 жыл бұрын
@@DG-xj7pm "Funding and profit" does not describe the FDA. The FDA doesn't make a profit. They make rules. They're about power. Some of the rules are actually good ones, but they're written so that loopholes can be exploited -- same as any other government agency. There's nothing in the world wrong with making a profit ... unless you're doing so by wresting political power away from where it belongs, and THAT is what is wrong with the FDA and its incestuous relationship with industry.
@avantgarde999xxx
2 жыл бұрын
When my dad died from complications from diabetes (possible Agent Orange exposure in Vietnam) we emptied 2 cabinet shelves stocked with prescribed medications. It was a staggering amount of pills and I know he never asked doctors questions. They prescribed it, he took it. RIP dad.
@kathleenmary7802
2 жыл бұрын
My dad is on this same path.
@Lolatheiyatola
2 жыл бұрын
Same. My dad died from agent orange in the vietnam war. Only 48. Our govt is disgusting
@OffGridInvestor
2 жыл бұрын
My uncle used to buy whatever was prescribed HALF the time (very cheap because it's government subsidised almost entirely), but then because he done everything his own way, he wouldn't take much. There was still a bag full of blister packs after I cleaned the place out. Literally one box of painkillers I kept and I think antihistamines but the rest were for specific problems.
@BigNate5594
2 жыл бұрын
I love how this man explains things and his demeanor is so chill . Deff worth going to Spotify to watch whole episode.
@williamcozart8158
2 жыл бұрын
No.
@dnlxl
2 жыл бұрын
nope
@ELCAPATAZ
2 жыл бұрын
I was prescribed Vioxx for back pain when it first hit the market around '99 or 2000. An old, wise friend pulled me to the side and in a very stern and worried tone told me to stop taking the medication because "people will be dropping like flies very soon" I never questioned his advice and discarded the medication immediately even after my doctor assured me it was safe for use. Fast forward a few years later and Vioxx was taken off the market because you guessed it people were dropping like flies from heart attacks. Thank you Vicenzo for serving this country and for all the knowledge you shared with me.
@yasamanmansoori2789
2 жыл бұрын
Shoutout Vicenzo, what a lad
@po3-doc159
2 жыл бұрын
@@yasamanmansoori2789 Legend
@louskunt9798
2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome. It was my pleasure.
@007Hutchings
2 жыл бұрын
Vicenzo worked for the company that made Vioxx. He knew EXACTLY what was going on. How else would he know? Let us all praise Vicenzo, the man who worked for Vioxx who whispered to his friend that he shouldn't take Vioxx because he could totally die man. PRAISE VICENZO!
@stop.juststop
2 жыл бұрын
@@007Hutchings Or, you're jumping to conclusions because you don't have all the data. You're the worst kind of person.
@ronnie4463
2 жыл бұрын
My Aunt retired in her first year her Doctor gave her this stuff in about two weeks she was in a coma and her organs began shutting down and she died….. unbelievable these Pharmaceutical Companies cannot be held accountable
@arthurfonzarelli9828
2 жыл бұрын
Our pharmaceutical industry is rotten to the core and the fact people are blindly following their advice regarding covid is truly pathetic
@AD-wg8ik
2 жыл бұрын
Idiots. And they have the nerve to act righteous
@vladimirolujic6637
2 жыл бұрын
Pharmaceutical industry? The system. As long as lobbying is legal, this problem will not be solved
@kameronicole
2 жыл бұрын
Fear mongering to control the masses
@JoeyNTasha
2 жыл бұрын
I agree to an extent, but blindly going against advice is also just as bad. As with anything regarding life, death and health, enormous amounts of independent research should be conducted.
@jordaneglis7380
2 жыл бұрын
@@JoeyNTasha 4 boosters and counting, I think idiots is right
@corylawson3809
2 жыл бұрын
The medicine that killed my grandmother. Sued but she was old and an autopsy wasn't done. Ended up getting nothing from the settlement.
@DM-fk9lw
2 жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry. I feel for you. My grandma died of a combination of ibuprofen and a blood thinner called xarelto. She got stomach ulcers and bled from the inside out essentially. If they used warfarin a IV of vitamin k would’ve saved her. She didn’t want to take her Vicodin after her surgery and thought that Advil was safer. We sued as well. Not a dime. That’s also what started MY opiate addiction when I found a bottle of oxycodone tens and another full bottle of vicodin in her medicine cabinet. I miss her everyday.
@tantalus5370
2 жыл бұрын
Same story with my grandfather
@beateater43
2 жыл бұрын
vioxx killed my older brother at 36. my sister in law didnt get any of the settlement cause his dr.was giving him samples for free.
@user-sm4fp2jo1o
2 жыл бұрын
@@beateater43 Medicine free samples? wtf
@sianwraith1984
2 жыл бұрын
A FLAMETHROWER SHOULD BE TAKEN TO "BIG PHARMA"...THE FUCKERS! kzitem.info/news/bejne/0oOuk4CsmJeLZqg
@michelsoares562
2 жыл бұрын
Keep going after them Joe! We are here to support you all the way!!
@ranthaman7579
2 жыл бұрын
My grandma was on meds for Alzheimer's for ten years. When they finally decided to take her off she started remembering names and faces. She had a whole new quality of life post medication..
@humane143imperfection6
2 жыл бұрын
Not unusual, they'll get better before immediately taking a turn for the worse being off of the medication. I can't tell you how many times I've heard that from people who wanted to sue a practice. Yes there are individuals who have gotten better having been taken off of meds but the reason as to why isn't so black and white.
@magesticmushroomgarden6914
2 жыл бұрын
@@humane143imperfection6 correlation does not equal causation
@humane143imperfection6
2 жыл бұрын
@@magesticmushroomgarden6914 Exactly..
@emmanuelgathara696
2 жыл бұрын
@@humane143imperfection6 Well, OP says her life was better post medication. So no turn for the worse in this case scenario. Like you said, the world isn't black and white, so going off medication isn't always a recipe for distaster.
@truegret7778
2 жыл бұрын
It isn't crazy - it's criminal. It's also not unheard of, it's the norm. When in doubt, follow the money (ie Fauci in the case of C^19)
@vedicapproach8105
2 жыл бұрын
Well put
@realgsdontdie5095
2 жыл бұрын
I broke my leg and was prescribed Norco. After 10 long years of addiction I'm finally clean and sober. Haven't taken an opiate in over 2 years. It was the hardest battle I ever had to endure. Fuck painkillers!
@cjaydustie1867
2 жыл бұрын
Hate to burst your bubble man but some people need opioid painkillers to function because they have severe daily pain. Blaming doctors for your opioid addiction isn’t helping people who NEED these medications. Don’t blame your doctor because you enjoyed catching a buzz...a lot of addiction is mental and if there was no mental want for a buzz a taper schedule is more than easy to follow.
@TJ-bg4fw
2 жыл бұрын
@@cjaydustie1867 It's a two way street dude, sometimes a doctor knowns there's going to be sever temporary pain and still prescribes opiates, leading to an addiction. The road to hell is often paved with good intentions
@AAA34FL448
2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on your sobriety
@dg8994
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been there too. I was in a horrible chemical explosion and badly burned. The Norco and other pain meds destroyed my life. It became a ten year battle for me. I would not wish this on my worst enemy. I have not had any type of pain medication in close to ten years. I was suicidal and came close to taking my life multiple times. It felt like a battle I could not win. Big P is run by a group of truly evil people. The suffering they cause to make a profit. It’s disgusting.
@dg8994
2 жыл бұрын
@@cjaydustie1867 no one NEEDS these meds long term. Short term yes they may be useful but There are plenty of natural alternatives that are sustainable. I survived over fifty surgeries due to explosion and 2nd and 3rd degree burns. The worst thing that happened to me in all that was being prescribed opiates long term and I did not enjoy any kind of buzz. Just because you might don’t put that shit off on everyone else.
@jeremyg1833
2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad he explained the part about the stock prices going up after fines announced. I thought I was crazy for noticing
@JessHull
2 жыл бұрын
I was on Vioxx for several years, I didn't have any issues while on the drug but several years later I had a Heart attack....at age 26. I always wonder how big a factor that played.
@outlander234
2 жыл бұрын
Now you know.
@Valkonnen
2 жыл бұрын
Are you 'Wondering"? People are funny.
@stayingsaneamidtheinsanity2499
2 жыл бұрын
You lose when big pharmas made tons of money. Sorry my man!
@thegnosticalien
2 жыл бұрын
Glad your okay!! Pharmaceutical companies are real life supervillains
@joeyfaoro6308
2 жыл бұрын
I was in a bad substance induced car accident in October of 2020 I was diagnosed with heart failure and only 20% of my left ventricle was working, it’s now at 55%. I still feel like I’m over weight or there is twice as much gravity, I’m 26 too. How do you feel??
@lynzysconstitutionalcrashc7836
2 жыл бұрын
My grandmother had a stroke due to Vioxx. She was part of that class action lawsuit. My mom was on antidepressants for about a decade and died of an acute subarachnoid hemorrhage at 42. No pharmaceuticals for me thanks.
@MAXlMUS
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if the same companies still existed and were major suppliers during this pandemic
@ajhatti2011
2 жыл бұрын
Don’t have to imagine. Phizer, moderna, Johnson and Johnson. All the same kinda of people.
@colestevenosky7207
2 жыл бұрын
The same company (Merck) recently came out with a Covid pill
@mikehunt8375
2 жыл бұрын
That was sarcasm right? You think the pharma companies give a shit about you or are somehow better today? You really need to turn your TV off if you do because you're severely brainwashed.
@armadillotoe
2 жыл бұрын
Why would you possibly believe things have changed?
@mandyconnecteddogs
2 жыл бұрын
I pressed like very hard, trying to make it laugh and like..... you tube isnlimited.... like a lot
@wmrphotography7349
2 жыл бұрын
I watched my father for the last 20 years of his life go thru the medicine circus. He used to have an overnight bag for his medicine. He trusted his doctors implicitly, until the end of his life where after getting diagnosed with cancer and they basically wrote him off. It was sad, but it motivated me to start taking better care of myself.
@EarlyAndLate
2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry for what you, your family, and your father went through. I've also witnessed loved ones trust their doctor whole-heartedly to be cast out after their cancer diagnosis.
@korbandallas8931
2 жыл бұрын
ya most docs are drug dealers. Instead of finding the root they just push pills to mask the problem til finally the body gives up. I always tried to eat good but more so now that I'm in my 40s.
@mrssclarkie5474
2 жыл бұрын
So sorry to hear you went through this 😢
@wmrphotography7349
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks everyone. The most frustrating thing was not only did he get medicated for his illnesses, he then had to take medicines to counteract the side effects of the medicine. I always thought it was ridiculous.
@kingovo1687
2 жыл бұрын
went through the same thing with my mom this year really lost faith in the healthcare system so motivated by greed its not even funny
@eqmuse
2 жыл бұрын
Back in the early 2000's, I was referred to an M.D. who people claimed was into combining allopathic with alternative medicine. On the 2nd visit he wanted to prescribe vioxx. I asked him what the side effects were. He looked me in the eye and said, 'Oh, you don't have to worry about those." I walked out of his office & never went back.
@technicalitems731
2 жыл бұрын
I took this for a knee reconstruction (prior and after) at age 26. Around year 2000. It messed up my stomach. Made me have frightening dreams. My dreams kept telling me “it’s the Vioxx”. I finally dreamed something so scary I told myself I’d never touch that medicine again! I’m not in to religion, paranormal or conspiracies. But WOW
@Joel-wb4mh
2 жыл бұрын
Don’t through the baby out with the annoying bath water. God loves you and spiritual something happened in your story.
@joemcmillan2089
2 жыл бұрын
After being prescribed statins for cholesterol and other dangerous drugs for gout, I began doing my own research to find out how I could live without an MD and or Big Pharma. That was over 10 years ago. I'm now 72, doing very well with good blood pressure readings, ideal weight and no reason for alarm or medical treatment. Eating habits have changed drastically. Now on a Highfat/lowcarb diet and loving it. My doctor still asks about me and tells my wife that I should go in for a checkup. No Thanks Doc...
@EikottXD
2 жыл бұрын
I mean there's nothing wrong with a checkup to find out your levels. Just refuse anything that he wants to prescribe you if it bothers you.
@carbon1631
2 жыл бұрын
The statin you took years ago is still providing you benefit. Ideal years to take statin is 40-65 for quality and quantity of life balance
@joemcmillan2089
2 жыл бұрын
@@carbon1631 Statins are poison to the human body!
@loganw861
2 жыл бұрын
And most people think your insane when you tell them their food is poison
@wewlad6
2 жыл бұрын
@@carbon1631 Oh really, is a statin defeciency the problem? Doctors are a meme, they don't know anything. Fix the problem, doctors only treat symptoms and their goal is profit, not to help people.
@jalton9416
2 жыл бұрын
I remember being prescribed vioxx after I pulled my back while working at Walmart and loading a treadmill into a vehicle. I took a couple of the pills and stopped because it didn't seem to help at all. I focused on stretching each morning before getting out of bed. My back improved and I went on with life. I'm glad I didn't take all that was prescribed to me.
@AnkurSethi108
2 жыл бұрын
You sound like a poor medical customer.
@l0lan00b3
2 жыл бұрын
@@AnkurSethi108 because he improved his back with PT and not pills?
@semperfi5857
2 жыл бұрын
@@l0lan00b3 yes....yes, that's exactly what he means.....
@Vgallo
2 жыл бұрын
Your lucky that worked, the trouble arises for people when those alternatives do not work, in Australia our drs always prescribe drugs last, it’s rarely prescribed first, unless there’s reason that negate the alternative treatments to drugs. That’s why the “ big pharma” narrative really only makes sense in countries like America, although I think even in the context of America most of the “ big pharma” narratives are jejune cliches.
@l0lan00b3
2 жыл бұрын
@@semperfi5857 I just want to know why that makes him poor? I mean he worked at Walmart but shit even that pays decently depending on your area. He already got the drugs but chose not to use them? Wtf am I missing lol
@istiles1
2 жыл бұрын
Just to add to the insanity of this story; I worked with an older woman who had not fared well using the other medications and when Vioxx came into her life changed her ability to move around with diminished pain. As long as she was on Vioxx she was active. When Vioxx was removed she was required to go back on her previous meds and her life diminished. The reality is that medical research into pharmaceuticals is a crap shoot. What may offer some form of assistance to some also risks harming others. Just listen to any ad these days and the possible side effects listed at the end of the ad are horrific for every drug.
@pardeeplace4480
2 жыл бұрын
I'm having a flashback to Harrison Ford in The Fugitive when he confronts that doctor guy while he's giving a speech about "Provasic"
@edguyrocks5865
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly....
@traviszane5334
2 жыл бұрын
This is the exact reason you don't take medicine when it first comes out. No doctor should recommend brand new medicine till it has been properly studied by multiple parties for both long and short term effects
@ninjalemurdude
2 жыл бұрын
I say don't take it unless you can get it in generic form. Patented drugs are very sketchy.
@charliemancuso6980
2 жыл бұрын
The same reason why you shouldn’t take a vaccine when it first comes out
@jayfinn6698
2 жыл бұрын
I had heart attack/ triple bypass from eating shit and smoking 4 years ago, doctors gave me the same protocol of med's they give everybody. I started doing research, completely changed my lifestyle eating lifting weights treadmill all so i didn't have to take their poison. Today at 58 have a build like Joe and doctor's won't see me because i don't take med's. I FEEL GREAT !AND NO JAB TO BOOT!
@bernardmauge8613
2 жыл бұрын
the same with me. God bless
@Danmyrealtor
2 жыл бұрын
Vioxx gave me a heart condition. I was prescribed due to messing my back up getting my black belt. I took it for a week and could barely wake up in the morning. I stopped it completely and dealt with the pain. Eventually I found yoga and self healed.
@debl9957
2 жыл бұрын
My partner's mom had dementia and, at one point, was taking a host of prescribed meds. Each caused side effects, for which other meds were prescribed, and yet the mother still suffered high blood pressure etc. After some time, one of her daughters whittled down the med list dramatically and the mother's health (other than the dementia) improved greatly.
@mikehopkins7384
2 жыл бұрын
I often think about my grandparents they both take soo many different meds.. then complain of various problems and they won’t believe it could possibly be side effects.. all they can do is tell the doctor who then prescribed more meds for the side effects, or send them to a specialist that prescribe more
@jackiehead6472
2 жыл бұрын
And that's how mire money is pumped from ur grandparents to big pharma. It's a cycle they know about and I don't doubt they try to further that cycle
@dumbunny7986
2 жыл бұрын
It's a slippery slope. Take one med then another for the side effect of the first and so on down down down...
@ChrisPBacon-yz6nk
2 жыл бұрын
My grandmother was the same way. Then she got Alzheimer’s and lost her memory but came off of all 13 drugs she was taking every day. The last 12 years of her life were drug free and she was healthy physically.
@mariebolin1291
2 жыл бұрын
I am approaching 60 and 7 yrs ago I realized the pharma scam. I refused all scripts and stopped taking all meds. I have been pharma free and it's wonderful! I do take over counter ie: ibuprofen, tylenol, etc.
@triger1
2 жыл бұрын
yes they should stop taking meds and let them rest in piece
@uNkLeRaRa4
2 жыл бұрын
"There's something so wrong here going on, that it was beyond my comprehension" - Me for the last 2 years...
@user-sm4fp2jo1o
2 жыл бұрын
@@spiritseeker2831 Bullseye!
@user-sm4fp2jo1o
2 жыл бұрын
@@spiritseeker2831 We are living in opposite land.
@martharetallick204
2 жыл бұрын
Me too.
@DannySullivanMusic
2 жыл бұрын
you are 110% perfect
@citycunch4578
2 жыл бұрын
@@spiritseeker2831 spot on
@blainepotskin1884
2 жыл бұрын
Back in 2002. I had a very bad reaction to vioxx. I had been diagnosed with transverse myelitis and the dr’s said I couldn’t have got it from vioxx because vioxx was an anti-inflammatory so it couldn’t have inflamed my cervical. But what I remember the most when I was at the glenrose hospital. For spinal injury I had a room mate and his name was Chris and what I remember he had a double stroke as a 24 yr old. To this day I wondered why he had such a bad stroke. And he had to leave to Vancouver for treatment because my dr said he had another stroke coming. And is beyond his capabilities. But he must of took. Vioxx.
@chrisp2249
2 жыл бұрын
Worse part is Merck knew about the deaths and heart attacks for two years. 8 billion in sales. 4.8 billion in class action lawsuits. Still made a 3.2 billion in profit. For pharma this is just the price of doing business.
@bangkokadventures298
2 жыл бұрын
I was prescribed vioxx when I was in my early 20s for tennis elbow. I remember my chest started quivering after two days and I felt dizzy in spells throughout the day. Went to the doctor, they ran some tests and just said I was probably sleep deprived. It was years later before I found out what poison that stuff really was. I feel lucky there were no long-term side effects
@Dark-wc4pu
2 жыл бұрын
Hope u r alright bro
@irmahood1955
2 жыл бұрын
I was prescribed vioxx after having 3 back surgeries. I've had high blood pressure ever since. Constant migraine.
@wasidanatsali6374
2 жыл бұрын
I had a seizure from Vioxx. It was prescribed to me for a back injury. I first took half the dose prescribed to see how it would effect me. About 30 minutes later I was on the floor having a seizure. The one and only seizure I’ve ever had in my life. It was like my body knew it was bad shit and rejected it immediately.
@ClayMastah344
2 жыл бұрын
Now imagine what’s going on today
@BigfootRunning
2 жыл бұрын
I was prescribed viox after fracturing my hip surfing when I was 19 (Australia). I took it for a year. I now find it very hard to trust the medical system.
@melodyoregon11
2 жыл бұрын
11.6 million subscribers to this KZitem, Joe has a reach is massive, and I think those who want to expose what is wrong with the world will seek him out. I hope Joe stays safe.
@gonzao4o4
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine this group of people is still working and approving medication after they were responsible for killing 40- 50k people their names should be out in public to be exposed
@nunyabizness8246
2 жыл бұрын
They should be locked in a cage for life. How many murderers that killed 1 are doing life?....
@twiggsherman3641
2 жыл бұрын
Every time this happens, the company should forfeit all the sales from the drug + 50%. So if they sell 12 billion worth of the drug, they end up paying 18 billion in damages. I bet this stops really quick.
@michaelgonzalez619
2 жыл бұрын
All you have to do is take away a corporation's ability to identify as an entity and the people within it can be prosecuted, but that won't happen because the criminals who benefit influence and write the laws, giving them a real fee would work too, but neither will ever happen until people get a grip on reality or even care to
@arsenalarsenalCOYG
2 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@questioneverything7582
2 жыл бұрын
It's happening just as I said it would...the healing phase of being "scared to death" is pneumonia, aka "flu". So as people are released from the solitary confinement of their homes (because of media and government lies based on the fraudulent Germ Theory), and people begin to get happy and feel less stressed, the result will be the healing phase....of pneumonia, flu, colds, general sickness. You can also see the light sensitivity, appendicitis in some, numerous tooth problems and gum swelling, laryngitis, etc. The fear campaign has caused ALL the illnesses, not a Boogey Virus. Every disease is based on the Germ Theory, which was the theory of ONE man over 100 years ago. It was never proven to be 100% valid, and has not even been QUESTIONED again. Why? In order for a theory to be valid, it must be reproduceable in each and every person 100% of the time. Every single person exposed to a "virus" MUST get sick from it 100% of the time, over and over again. It's how you PROVE a theory is valid. This was never done. Scientists used to think witches and witchcraft were valid!! Educated people?? hahaha!! If you cannot "catch" cancer, arthritis or diabetes from another person, then you cannot "catch" a cold or flu. There is no such thing that only SOME diseases are communicable, but not all. It's either all or none of them...they are all based on the same Germ Theory. If you can't "catch" someone's lung cancer, you can't "catch" their colds or flu. Upsetting and distressing events in a person's life is what causes ALL cancer and cancer-equivalent disease, cold, flu, pneumonia, bronchitis, etc. A massive fear campaign will CAUSE people to be "worried sick", but sickness doesn't happen until people resolve their fears. Why do you think kids get sick in October? Because their fear of going back to school and being upset about it finally dissolves, and they get back into their routines. What the media and government is doing to people is criminal. So of course, when everyone is allowed to escape the hostage situation the governments have put their people into, and they start relaxing about the "scary virus" that's not in any way transmissible, they will begin their healing phase (get sick), and the corrupt governments will call it a different “scary” word, a different Boogey Man coming to get you.....repeat the same mistakes that never worked from the beginning, re-institute the same restrictions that only made people more traumatized, and more panic will ensue as well as martial law, a removal of all your rights, and you let it happen. The longer people allow this government to hold them hostage in their homes, the more severe the "sickness" will be. Western Medicine is pure fraud, and people's lives are destroyed because of it. Welcome to the United States of China.
@Big-Wonka
2 жыл бұрын
I always say the same thing about stock market manipulation. Hedge funds will break the law and profit billions but be fined a few million.
@JasonSmith-yt6jv
2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly the penalty regime I proposed to my partner a few weeks ago! Takes all incentive away then. Should be the minimum consequence and then they deal with personal litigation after that.
@reneeriffic
2 жыл бұрын
That fact that this man has a honest conversation and truth is explained ... this is what a reporter should be ,joe rogan is setting standards and putting people to shame . All while smoking weed
@winstonchurchill3059
2 жыл бұрын
Of all the things, the biggest cultural shock I faced when I went to America for the first time, was the drug ads. If you’re well travelled, you’d know that the amount of ads and the way that the ads are done by drug companies in America is absolutely shocking. Forget about military spending, gun control, etc - banning drug advertising and regulating drug companies should be agenda no 1 for all Americans.
@English-Mark
2 жыл бұрын
I had a back injury around 2002. The military doctor gave me a bottle of vioxx. I was not into meds and asked how he knows its safe. He said something about it not being harsh on the stomach. In order to not offend him, I took the bottle but I through it in the first garbage can I saw. A couple of years later I saw the recall on the news. That is why I won't get the you know what.
@3chords490
2 жыл бұрын
….but don’t you realise that when you use your own rational judgement to protect your own body then you are an anti vaxxer?
@tsmith3286
2 жыл бұрын
@@3chords490 in this case an anti voxxer
@3chords490
2 жыл бұрын
@@tsmith3286 What’s that? You realise I was being ironic?
@tsmith3286
2 жыл бұрын
@@3chords490 yes I was making a joke. Vaxxer and voxxer. Sorry if it didn’t come out that way
@terriaki1273
2 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@tomhines3404
2 жыл бұрын
With all this in mind, are people who are distrusting of pharmaceutical companies and against vaccine mandates really all that crazy?
@tomhines3404
2 жыл бұрын
@Normie meme Pfizer and Moderna are gene editing “treatments”
@zippydodahquirk9039
2 жыл бұрын
Joe Rogan is honestly pretty heroic for having guests on willing to criticize the medical industrial complex. Most people in the media are busy calling all physicians and nurses heroes.
@OfficialCANVAS
2 жыл бұрын
Dont blame nurses blame the holder of the strings they are atteched to
@zippydodahquirk9039
2 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialCANVAS If the nurses go along with what is wrong they should be held accountable too.
@coveronly228
2 жыл бұрын
The MD's sticking out their neck and going on are the real heros...
@zippydodahquirk9039
2 жыл бұрын
@@coveronly228 they aren't doing that. Plenty of people were neglected to death in hospitals and nursing homes because visitors were not allowed. This crap is really sick.
@coveronly228
2 жыл бұрын
@@zippydodahquirk9039 I"m talking about the man being interviewed ^ who is a doctor and litigator. Bless him for writing this book.
@ryanmacarthur1299
2 жыл бұрын
There are no consequences because the same people that are charging some of these companies and provide legislation are actually investors in the same company. Why bite the hands that feed their greed? Sad but true. Especially in Canada and the US
@littlebittycustoms923
2 жыл бұрын
Joe has a tiger by the tail with these drug discussions...
@69birdboy
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah...I really appreciate the bravery
@Doorito_
2 жыл бұрын
@@69birdboy Seeing the effects on his friends within MMA probably motivates him
@eZ6Pain
2 жыл бұрын
I‘m not an american but Joe seems unf*ckable to me, isn‘t he? Like CNN an all this Mainstream Media can say what they wan‘t but Joe is untouchable. Like with the recent horse dewormer bullshit (what is still told in Germany btw 😂 There are even advertisment signs on the street making fun of people using „horsedwormer“ instead of „trusting“ in Science. It‘s a Shame, but we Germans are Choking deeply on the Vaccine Dick)
@Aquamatiic
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I believe he should run for president, he may call himself a moron but he sure knows right from wrong and I believe he would get a lot of trustworthy people in his cabinet
@johnnnoise
2 жыл бұрын
why wasn't joe's immune system good enough to ward off covid?
@frankjeaguer3643
2 жыл бұрын
"and what was the punishment for Merc?" I laughed so hard and instantly got sad lol
It's happening just as I said it would...the healing phase of being "scared to death" is pneumonia, aka "flu". So as people are released from the solitary confinement of their homes (because of media and government lies based on the fraudulent Germ Theory), and people begin to get happy and feel less stressed, the result will be the healing phase....of pneumonia, flu, colds, general sickness. You can also see the light sensitivity, appendicitis in some, numerous tooth problems and gum swelling, laryngitis, etc. The fear campaign has caused ALL the illnesses, not a Boogey Virus. Every disease is based on the Germ Theory, which was the theory of ONE man over 100 years ago. It was never proven to be 100% valid, and has not even been QUESTIONED again. Why? In order for a theory to be valid, it must be reproduceable in each and every person 100% of the time. Every single person exposed to a "virus" MUST get sick from it 100% of the time, over and over again. It's how you PROVE a theory is valid. This was never done. Scientists used to think witches and witchcraft were valid!! Educated people?? hahaha!! If you cannot "catch" cancer, arthritis or diabetes from another person, then you cannot "catch" a cold or flu. There is no such thing that only SOME diseases are communicable, but not all. It's either all or none of them...they are all based on the same Germ Theory. If you can't "catch" someone's lung cancer, you can't "catch" their colds or flu. Upsetting and distressing events in a person's life is what causes ALL cancer and cancer-equivalent disease, cold, flu, pneumonia, bronchitis, etc. A massive fear campaign will CAUSE people to be "worried sick", but sickness doesn't happen until people resolve their fears. Why do you think kids get sick in October? Because their fear of going back to school and being upset about it finally dissolves, and they get back into their routines. What the media and government is doing to people is criminal. So of course, when everyone is allowed to escape the hostage situation the governments have put their people into, and they start relaxing about the "scary virus" that's not in any way transmissible, they will begin their healing phase (get sick), and the corrupt governments will call it a different “scary” word, a different Boogey Man coming to get you.....repeat the same mistakes that never worked from the beginning, re-institute the same restrictions that only made people more traumatized, and more panic will ensue as well as martial law, a removal of all your rights, and you let it happen. The longer people allow this government to hold them hostage in their homes, the more severe the "sickness" will be. Western Medicine is pure fraud, and people's lives are destroyed because of it. Welcome to the United States of China.
@jonathonholifield3166
2 жыл бұрын
@@questioneverything7582 I hate to break this to you, but bacteria and virus are real. So is cancer. Infection can be contagious, but cancer is not. You are incorrect, and you should probably stop thinking in terms of black and white, and instead realize that our existence is chock-full of GRAY AREAS
@jonathonholifield3166
2 жыл бұрын
@@questioneverything7582 P.S: you are quite clearly insane, and I hope you live very very far away from me and my family
@avalon4693
2 жыл бұрын
I made it 69 likes
@coveronly228
2 жыл бұрын
This was the best podcast on Rogan that I’ve heard in a long time.
@freespiritwithnature4384
2 жыл бұрын
I was given Vioxx ,and after taking it for 3 years ,I began keeling over in agony. I had a scope and I had severe bleeding and blocked bile ducts. I still wonder if that’s what’s caused my stomach pain after that . I did have extreme chest pain though , but being young I blew it off .
@M11969
2 жыл бұрын
When Merck began marketing their HPV vaccin, the sales reps used to say, HPV=have to pay for Vioxx. Thinking that these people have your health in mind is ludicrous.
@MainstreamNewsGuy
2 жыл бұрын
The thing that worries me is that you can entirely avoid using unhealthy pharmaceuticals and processed foods, but they dump all the byproduct in our drinking water regardless.
@littlelarry2912
2 жыл бұрын
If your drinking city water your are drinking much worse than byproducts. On top of your neighbors recycled piss. Move out of the city and drink real water from the ground
@iancatt5915
2 жыл бұрын
@@littlelarry2912 dont forget when they enbalm people that goes right in the drain
@arthurfonzarelli9828
2 жыл бұрын
Our food is 100 times worse than anything they could do to the water. Our food is biggest reason why majority of our country is depressed and overweight
@beerious8392
2 жыл бұрын
@Nixie Tubes exactly. I look at cities as factory/prisons, with enough silly entertainments to keep the weak willed from seeing it. I live in the forest, my well is 12 feet deep and I have a huge garden. I've been saying for years, and Elon musk said the same in a recent interview: the world is far, far from overpopulated. It is silly to think such a thing. We just live wrong. Get out of cities, there is plenty of space out there.
@hew195050
2 жыл бұрын
get a Berkey water system. It takes out EVERYTHING! Well worth the cost. Don't drink bottled water. The plastic outgasses into the water no matter what they tell ya.
@tteot1wph
2 жыл бұрын
This was an excellent episode. He exposed a lot without saying anything too overboard
@xlennyplaguex
2 жыл бұрын
He should be careful. I know he has resources, but these people have endless money and will go after ANYBODY that attempts to spread information.
@gnosis2012
2 жыл бұрын
when you consider the number of Senior deaths, primarily in nursing homes where it was blanket prescribed to tens if not hundreds of thousands, from FDA approval, to withdraw, the number of casualties expands exponentially to hundreds of thousands of deaths, rather than 70,000.
@JarrodDSchneider
2 жыл бұрын
If you think the Vioxx scandal was bad, it pales in comparison to the current injections that shall not be named, which are likely the most injurious products in the history of medicine.
@theasphole
2 жыл бұрын
Terribly interesting times ahead. Good luck to you and yours.
@dustinharford8454
2 жыл бұрын
Lmao okay
@JarrodDSchneider
2 жыл бұрын
@@gsesquire3441 I realize the claim I made was bold but I’m willing to discuss why I made it...only if you’re actually open to discussing it honestly, though.
@lucybrenton149
2 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodDSchneider And how profitable for the industry...since this class of products has zero product liability.
@brocklagunas3055
2 жыл бұрын
Don’t be afraid to say it. It’s only a matter of time before Moderna and Pfizer go through the same events. I’d like to throw J&J in there but unfortunately I think they’re too big to be affected.
@androiduseronappledevice4477
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Joe, this podcast, the one with Peter McCullough and recently the one with Robert Malone were incredible, I rarely listen to the end, but really, wow... I wish you could have Robert F. Kennedy Jr too.
@artcurious807
2 жыл бұрын
How’s that “American Dream” working out ? If a working class guy loses control of his truck he gets 110 years in prison (only reduced because of the outcry not because of our justice system) but if a rich Ivy League brat and his frat boy friends run a drug company leading to the deaths of 40k people then all you get is a fine and a warning.
@sarajones6046
2 жыл бұрын
This should of been a major public announcement broadcast. It is absolutely horrifying what 'they' are doing and forcing onto/into us!
@ericknabenshue5689
2 жыл бұрын
You think this is bad. The information he's not allowed to talk about because of his nondisclosure agreement I'm sure is much worse
@carpo719
2 жыл бұрын
This is a great podcast; I have been working on a book about this topic for a couple years, and this guy nailed a lot of points. (EDIT: I watched the 2 hour version and it is dang good, highly recommended!)
@carpo719
2 жыл бұрын
We need more people like this talking about the issues. Unfortunately censorship has made that difficult
@tteot1wph
2 жыл бұрын
I just finished Bad Pharma by Ben Goldacre, so this was right up my alley
@user-yc4gu8cy3d
2 жыл бұрын
My brother was diagnosed with arthritis at age 6 he was given this medicine but was hiding the pills in the couch cushion. A young girl that was in his physical therapy class was also on this and she died from this medicine. God bless her and her family. My dad broke down and was on his knees crying asking my brother if he was taking the pills and to stop, that's when he pulled the couch cushion out on unzipped it and months of pills fell out. My parents were relieved but I will aways cry for that girls who's life was cut short. If you or your child dosnt feel right on medication don't force them to take it, let them have a say in what they take and educate yourself and family on all other choices on treatment.
@missyfeenan5944
2 жыл бұрын
My brother was one of those 40-60,000 deaths. Vioxx/Merck is responsible for my brother's fatal heart attack in April,2004. Apparently his physician was not aware of the cardiac risk? This interview rattled me to the core. So disturbing.
@ZeroMass
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that... Wait til the hindsight of the jab comes to fruition. I'm afraid reality is going to get really disturbing throughout this decade... 🙏🏻
I was prescribed that crap after a bad train derailement/ accident. After reading the news reports, I immediately stopped using it (it was pulled from the market some time after that). When I questioned my orthopedic surgeon about it, he shrugged and told me that he "didn't classify me as being in a high risk group". My dad was put on Celebrex (similar to Vioxx), and developped a heart condition that they couldn't diagnose so they simply classified it as COPD; he got off the meds, changed his diet, and his heart function mostly returned to the shock and awe of his cardiologist. It took a few years, but all the docs wanted to do was give more meds to him . 😡 Still, not worth the risk. Celebrex was the other crap they put me on; lost 38 pounds in a month because it was killing my stomach and desire to eat. Stopped taking that also. Be wary folks, if you can't feel the pain, how do you know something has changed? I would rather some discomfort than the alternative.
@rmoon01
2 жыл бұрын
" Family Docs the low man on the totem pole, and specialists don't often treat them with the respect they deserve." If you don't treat other people with respect. If you do anything that might psychologically hurt someone. You're not a doctor.
@w4rf4c39
2 жыл бұрын
Dr Robert Malone, inventor of the mRNA treatments, is on the podcast next. He was just banned from Twitter today.
@Ghost_Text
2 жыл бұрын
Uh Oh. The moderator vultures are gonna be circling fo sho.
@coalpants3068
2 жыл бұрын
You mean the guy who made a video recently claiming spike proteins are toxic to childrens organs with no evidence? Great. Can’t wait.
@JerseyMiller
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent. I've been following him since his interview with the Weinstein's.
@JerseyMiller
2 жыл бұрын
@@coalpants3068 we probably shouldn't listen to him even though he invented mRNA technology.
@coalpants3068
2 жыл бұрын
@@JerseyMiller doesn’t mean his word is gospel when it comes to the implementation of the vaccines for c^19
@lowbrowrodeo
2 жыл бұрын
I tried vioxx when I was in my twenties and after 2 days I started getting severe irregular heartbeats and stopped immediately. The next week I heard about all the vioxx deaths.
@SueEmmDee
2 жыл бұрын
I am so grateful when good people are allowed to speak up.
@alexstone7594
6 ай бұрын
Never been a drug user. After learning how the pharmacutical companies got half America hooked on legal opioids, “I said I will never trust doctors again”.
@ArcaneBear
2 жыл бұрын
I love that Joe is following this rabbit hole, cant wait to see Robert Malone, and I would be the question, when do we see Mr Keennedy on the channel as well. Huge congrats Joe!
@entropyincrease864
2 жыл бұрын
He needs to stop fucking around and bring kennedy on. I think its close. Gonna be one of his greatest episodes.
@mendoblendo321
2 жыл бұрын
@@entropyincrease864 which Kenedy ?
@AD-wg8ik
2 жыл бұрын
@@entropyincrease864 Kennedy has a speech impediment
@jessie9653
2 жыл бұрын
@@mendoblendo321 Robert
@mendoblendo321
2 жыл бұрын
@@jessie9653 are you talking about JFK brother that was shot and killed? Or the Kennedy that's on office currently with the southern accent?
@bandit6272
2 жыл бұрын
Hey folks, I'm disclose that I'm a newly minted M.D., not to try and puff myself up, but to tell you that you shouldn't "blindly" trust someone just because they have a degree. Even an M.D., and yes that includes me. If your doctor won't disclose their rationale for their decisions and answer questions, get another doctor. The truth can stand up to scrutiny, dogma can't, and doctors are not unquestionable priests of science.
@JanetSmith900
2 жыл бұрын
This is why you can NEVER allow a government or any other system to force a drug into human bodies.
@CoolDrifty
2 жыл бұрын
No this is why you can never allow the pharmaceutical and medical industry to be privatized. Nationalization would fix this problem
@bumblebeez1314
Жыл бұрын
The case of Vioxx highlights the important of rigorous testing and monitoring of pharmaceuticals for potential side effects and risk, and the need for transparency and communications about these risks to both health care professionals and patients. Transparency and accountability are essential for ensuring public trust in the pharmaceutical industry and regulatory agencies that oversee it. The FDA has a responsibility to enforce regulations that require pharmaceutical companies to be transparent about the safety and efficacy of their products. Falsifying data or intentionally leaving out sets of information undermines the integrity of scientific research. Its important for the FDA to conduct throughout and independent reviews of all scientific studies before approving the new drugs to market. I think the issue lies within regulatory loopholes and insufficient regulatory oversight. From an ethical perspective, it is important to balance the potential benefits of fast-tracking drugs through the approval process without adequate testing with the need to ensure patient safety, but this does not mean that regulatory agencies can become negligent about the review process, including rigorous clinical trials and post-market testing. Nonetheless, the government is not forcing patients to take this drug, as we should always have autonomy about what medications, procedures, and treatments happen to us. As unfortunate of a story this is, it wasn't about autonomy as much as non-maleficence. We should never allow the government or any regulatory body to market a drug that has not been properly and thoroughly tested. We should be able to trust that drugs that make it to production and consumption are marketed with transparency.
@cygnusx555
2 жыл бұрын
It's the US Healthcare system in which the doctors get bonuses from pharmaceutical companies to push their drugs. Greed doesn't work with healthcare and can also hinder its advancement too
@michellederbich6242
2 жыл бұрын
We can't be critical thinkers when it suits us and then follow blindly so as to stay within our silos and identity (political leanings). We need to have nuanced conversation and keep talking. Big pharma has a long and dubious History of less than ethical behavior. Thank you for speaking out and for facilitating this conversation folks!
@joshx022
2 жыл бұрын
Your comment deserves more than bot replies. I agree 100%.
@LuvOneAnother
2 жыл бұрын
My husband died in 2002 when he was on vioxx he was 35. I was trying to mourn and take care of two little children and I didnt hear that Dr's had stopped that medication until years later and I didn't know what to do about it. i thought it was one of those tv lawsuit adverts from ambulance chasers. He said he was having chest pains but he was 35 so no one took it seriously, and they never did an autopsy. They said it must've been a heart attack after doing the routine tests.
@chunkymon1508
2 жыл бұрын
Joe is really doing important work getting these voices out there.
@Godfailedyoustophumpinghisleg
2 жыл бұрын
The gall of these men decide to call themselves doctors or experts and they let this occur, no one has the right to be the regulatory official when we know so little and are often wrong.
why not? the head of the WHO isn’t even a docktoor
@bcoz6630
2 жыл бұрын
I love you Joe. I love that you continue to relentlessly expose fraud and corruption, on a monumental scale. But I won't lie, I'm starting to fear for your life.
@Valkonnen
2 жыл бұрын
Why is that? It doesn't matter how many people listen to a poorly dressed meathead, because they realize that anyone who would listen to him doesn't matter in the first place. He has nothing to fear, until he commands actual respect. Until that time he has nothing to fear.
@bcoz6630
2 жыл бұрын
@@Valkonnen and yet here you are, troll. You're dismissed.
@entropyincrease864
2 жыл бұрын
Wrong attitude
@mikewalters1877
2 жыл бұрын
yeah this is true. He is getting into some dangerous battleground and has to be careful.
@bcoz6630
2 жыл бұрын
@@mikewalters1877 Dr. Robert Malone is next up. Global news has already started smearing Rogan, in preparation
@andrearobinson3911
2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, "peer reviewed" simply means "think tank". You don't want scientists to simply agree, you want people who disagree so they can make the best decisions possible. If things simply slide on by through review of a think tank, we'll never know the other side.
@SelfTaughtArtist1
2 жыл бұрын
Pleased to hear about this again after all these years.
@SwampyColorado420
2 жыл бұрын
I was prescribed this when I was a young teen. It is still the only thing that ever really helped my back. To me it was a miracle drug. I know someone who died from it.
@mistermonsieur2924
2 жыл бұрын
That's the paradox of drugs. Fentanyl is a killer to most, unless you need to have a heart surgery, then its a facilitator that helps save your life.
@LK-lz6lk
2 жыл бұрын
I took it too in my mid 20's ~ 4-5 days/mo for almost 2 yrs 'til it was pulled. I remember being upset when my Dr. told me bc it was only thing that helped me (endometriosis). I called it a wonder drug & I have family history of blood clot issues! Smh!! Thank goodness I/we survived...can't help but feel horrible for the many who didn't.😞 Pharma has no shame - disgusting!🤬
@et1323
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting because I have the same experience. Was a young teen and this worked better than other more well known pain killers with less side effects. Everyone has different chemistry so maybe what was effective for us was very bad for other people. That said I never used pain killers as an adult and realize that a little pain isn't something to medicate for.
@TheNesbittExperience
2 жыл бұрын
I was prescribed this drug as a teenager as well. As a dancer, I was either arthritic or injured at the time, but I was always inflamed. I do have issues… it never occurred to me my stomach issues were from that. 🤔
@keithcitizen4855
Жыл бұрын
The drug although banned in America got dumped on the Australian market for months before being withdrawn - an old friend twisted with arthritis swore how good it was stopping pain but had to eventually submit to my advice it was no good previously at my mother's short fatal stay in hospital the first thing they did was stop her viox which the local GP had prescribed.
@Justin_L_Smith_
2 жыл бұрын
Merck had a hit list of doctors they set to discredit for complaining about the drug. So they knew the whole time & tried to silence any criticism.
@JessNVee
2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised no one is mentioning Brandy Vaughan.
@DeathBringer769
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds pretty similar to events happening today as well...
@gentjim5007
2 жыл бұрын
I was prescribed vioxx in 2003 for a herniated disc. It made me feel weird so I soon stopped taking it. Funny thing was, at my doctor's office there were vioxx labeled pens, notepads, post it holders etc. She said it was a great new effective wonderdrug. Amazing that my doc decided to prescribe it! Much like these supposed covid vaccines, I was skeptical of it and ,my doctors motives, which in that case probably saved my life. And now the thought of questioning these vaccines, of thinking of alternatives even, is met with condemnation, discrimination, and outright anger by many people. Big Pharma has making money as its primary goal, and if it actually works that's a bonus. Thanks Joe for helping to bring these things to light!
@0ptimal
2 жыл бұрын
Yea, pharma is essentially the sponser of the medical industry.
@chadchambliss4949
2 жыл бұрын
Fall in line and comply. One new shot every three months. We will make billions... Sincerely the drug companies.
@VEEGUS324
2 жыл бұрын
I don't blame the doctors I blame pharmaceutical companies.
@charlesxavier4409
2 жыл бұрын
interesting that family doctors are regarded lowly amongst fellow doctors, in my experiences the family doctor rarely makes mistakes, compared to the specialists at or referred by hospitals.
@lisettes.9598
Жыл бұрын
My doctor prescribed this for me for the consistent headaches I got after a gunshot wound to head. Thank goodness I refuse to take anything other than antibiotics and painkillers
@tlheingrunst
2 жыл бұрын
And to think so many of our drs are invested in these same stocks as they write your prescriptions knowing they get kickbacks too. Look into the sunshine act, it shows drs being paid by pharma companies how much and by who and when
@americanmuttradio5689
2 жыл бұрын
Wonder when the Dr. Robert Malone interview will air.
Never only on Spotify Everyone calling Joe a sell out couldn't have been more wrong lol This is why he left you tube because he knew censorship was coming
@dalew4744
2 жыл бұрын
I took vioxx for several years. It was the only anti-inflammatory that ever took away my hip pain. Any other anti-inflammatory medication made me "bleed like a stuck pig" is how my doctor would describe it. I was placed on opioids for 6 years after before I had hip surgery. Vioxx was amazing, best anti-inflammatory I had ever taken, before it was stopped. Funny how I wasn't allowed to take the only medication that ever helped my pain and caused me no other side effects, but I'm basically forced to take a vaccine in Canada that has messed with my heart.
@misfit_pets5731
2 жыл бұрын
Took vioxx once as a kid and had an allergic reaction. Guess that was a blessing in disguise
@ryanmark4660
2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate all these doctor and scientist guests you've been having lately talking about medicine, treatments, drug, and the pharma companies...VERY interesting for me!
@Prestorizzor
2 жыл бұрын
So does this mean I should get my 17th Booster or not?
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