After listening to a lot of songs from almost 20 years and having more than 2,000 songs on my playlists sorted by genre I think I can talk about this:
STOP CALLING POST HARDCORE A GENRE, IT IS NOT ONE. I think it should be named PROGRESSIVE PUNK, ALT PUNK or other labels (this will depend on the subgenres fused, and I don't want to impose labels but those are more correct). That's what it has evolved into... And it will keep evolving, so the songs from this era need to have a good subgenre name. I don't feel it's the same genre depending of the route, mainly modern one from 2010 to 2020 (alt rock, prog rock, metal, pop...). We could use other names but I don't know what it would be the most correct term for those, specially those songs mixed with metalcore (If you think Proggresive Metalcore is a good name, it's not. Most of the bands doesn't have that Prog Punk sound anymore). If you talk about Post-hardcore you need to understand that you are talking about an era of some punk & rock music subgenres.
And for those of you haters, post- is something that references everything that came after, and for this case, hardcore punk music. So everything has evolved from that hardcore punk sound is post hardcore, even some modern metalcore. Get over it.
I have to repeat it: Like I said in the video, post punk or post hardcore are not a good genre names because ALL MUSIC IN THAT "SUBGENRE" sound so damn different. I didn't see that in all the songs I've been listening in my life and that's because all post-hardcore songs have evolved a lot and therefore should be understand it as an era of the music.
There are more indicators of a specific era of music style, like post-punk that you should better avoid to name as a subgenre. Styles like emo, indie, screamo... are ambiguous as well, but at least they are not music eras. You should understand those labels as a characteristic or a style of the music, not a subgenre. Even some japanese styles like "visual kei" follows that misinterpretation - they are linked to an alt goth rock sound.
Songs used for this video:
Rites of Spring - For Want Of
Quicksand - Fazer
Atreyu - A Song For The Optimistics
Emery - Walls [It is from 2004]
Alesana - And They Call This Tragedy
Saosin - Seven Years
Dance Gavin Dance - Alex English
(Mixed with metalcore:)
Blessthefall - Promised Ones
This video is intended to be a documentary.
I don't try to win money with this video. The copyright rights are still on the owners of every song.
I've done this video because I saw another about the "evolution of Post-Hardcore" and they were not correct at all. They just were showing bands that had that hardcore punk sound that started to change in 1980-1990 (but that isn't even a genre, just regular hardcore punk with some soft vibes). Also, I saw some confusion because people were talking about Post-hardcore as a genre, or people making some hateful criticism about the real evolution because "people are using the genre name for shitty metalcore and we have so much better taste, duh". What a cringey persons... I made this video just to clarify everything I've seen from years and hopefully you don't use the term anymore, because it's very ambiguous.
P. S. I have a typing error here: 3:38 It should be "For some people" or "some people think that..." Sorry for that.
I also have another one here: 3:18 you should read it like this:
"bands that had a prog rock sound (that came from hardcore punk) -evolved into prog punk and they are still there, even today" This sentence refers to modern prog punk bands that went a little more poppy but they are still making the same music sound, maybe with more electronic sound. You can see that in albums like Hard Feelings from blessthefall.
Негізгі бет Музыка The TRUE EVOLUTION of POST-HARDCORE (1980-2010 MUSIC ERA) From Hardcore Punk to Prog Punk & more
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