Just a couple minor corrections. Mxy is not the one who created the cosmic storm it was Dr Alchemist, Mxy is just telling Superman about it and I seemed to imply that the Void Hound is some kind of living being but it's actually just a super weapon. I got the line mixed up with the Sun Eater stuff when I was recording it. None of this changes any of the actual scaling but I figured it should be mentioned. Let me know which videos you guys would like to see in the future.
@matteozambetti4373
5 жыл бұрын
Great video! I just disagree with one thing. I do think Post-Crisis Superman is around mid-multiversal, here's why: Pre-Crisis Superman provided half the power necessary to undo the damage Time-Trapper did, and restore all possible timelines, and Post-Crisis Superman is around his level of power.
@WebCamParrot
5 жыл бұрын
For one thing that feat is multiversal+ and for two it's not consistent enough otherwise I would agree. Universal+ is a lot more consistent (literally well over 60 feats). There are couple instances of higher dimensional scaling too like 11 and 14 dimensional feats but I didn't include them because they are all outliers.
@matteozambetti4373
5 жыл бұрын
@@WebCamParrot Ok, but is it possible to argue multi-universal because of how casually he did some of the universal feats and how some of the universal feats were early on in post crisis, and he got stronger since then?
@WebCamParrot
5 жыл бұрын
Low multiversal / Multi-universal is somewhat reasonable, he could be that strong but it doesn't really make any real difference to the scaling and he has very few feats actually on that level. Casually performing a universal+ feat doesn't qualify you for Multi-universal.
@matteozambetti4373
5 жыл бұрын
@@WebCamParrot What about factoring in the fact that post-crisis superman also did some of his universal feats in a weakened state, and that he got stronger throughout post-crisis.
@KeyIssues
5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Really liked the amount of detail you went into. Looking forward to more.
@fortress7493
5 жыл бұрын
You're trash at debating
@KeyIssues
5 жыл бұрын
But I'm rich so it's ok
@wendyandmiketerell997
5 жыл бұрын
Fort Ress so debate him then
@That80sGuy1972
5 жыл бұрын
@@fortress7493 Not everyone trolls under the guise of "debating". ;p
@NarutoUzumaki-hs2yi
5 жыл бұрын
@@KeyIssues OMG you literally just shut him up,OMG I'm still laughing while typing lmao
@Moonbeam143
4 жыл бұрын
Not bad for a farmer from Kansas.
@DungEnjoyerr
5 ай бұрын
He's the average farmer from Kansas, nothing special here.
@user-tw3rh9po4t
4 ай бұрын
Fair enough, Dorothy. Fair enough.
@fatefulbrawl5838
5 жыл бұрын
*Wow, Superman post Crisis is WAY stronger then I thought, thanks mate!* 😉
@fatefulbrawl5838
5 жыл бұрын
@ Cool.
@lucassimms8163
4 жыл бұрын
there's alot of them. and goku Is stronger than most of them.
@fatefulbrawl5838
4 жыл бұрын
@@lucassimms8163 Kinda, there arecalso PLENTY of Goku's as well.
@davidogundipe808
4 жыл бұрын
@@lucassimms8163 keep on thinking that
@fatefulbrawl5838
4 жыл бұрын
@Le mouxx True, then there's also Cosmic armor Superman and Milkman man.
@mickeydee23
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for mentioning Superman's intelligence and fighting skill. Too many forget the plethora of skills Superman possesses
@jtafoya88
5 жыл бұрын
After he mentioned Wonder Woman's shattered God feat was not even close to Superman's high end speed I was like PAUSE....pause, basically Superman is impossible incarnated lol.
@agoranottoman1663
5 жыл бұрын
Juan Tafoya What’s hilarious about that is that Wonder Woman and Superman keep up with each other in combat. These people are insanely fast
@mydadcamehomefr2256
5 жыл бұрын
@@FahimusAlimus lol i knew someone would say that.
@witch-markedwonderwoman5308
5 жыл бұрын
@@FahimusAlimus why thank you for calling me the fastest combat speed fighter of all time.
@mgannmorzz2412
5 жыл бұрын
@@agoranottoman1663 actually those weren't trilions but was written trilions upon trilions to uncountable. + was written from sphere of heavens. It must be to me rather infinite or immesurable speed.
@agoranottoman1663
5 жыл бұрын
M'gann M'orzz These dudes are stupid fast. I guess we go with trillions in order quantifying it
@raylongoria3565
4 жыл бұрын
Damn, superman is a lot more powerful than I thought.
@marioworld882
5 жыл бұрын
Key? A minor issue on Brainiac. Supes didn’t one-shot Brainiac by clapping, he did it by rubbing his hands. Rubbing. His. Hands. Which is even crazier than what you said that feat was.
@alexbaribeault
4 жыл бұрын
What... the fuck.
@imbangmaynn5705
4 жыл бұрын
What issue is that from? Wtf. He killed lex luthor? I thought he doesn't kill?
@randomknowledgeperson2872
4 жыл бұрын
IMBANGMAYNN!!! !!! He usually doesn’t, but he will if he has to.
@kingdomcomesuperman3669
4 жыл бұрын
@@imbangmaynn5705 Superman #666
@imbangmaynn5705
4 жыл бұрын
@@kingdomcomesuperman3669 I read it thanks... Would that count? Wasn't that just a dream? Wouldn't they be weaker?
@zan31669
4 жыл бұрын
Superman holds back on every freaking level... If him murdering all the parademons around the world in a second doesn't prove that then nothing would
@luckyjay2315
4 жыл бұрын
I swear
@chaa6144
4 жыл бұрын
That was Injustice Superman; who is in a different Multiverse entirely, but okay.
@protege6305
4 жыл бұрын
Thor, Lord of Thunder yeah that’s the thing about Superman as much as he’s my fav super hero he’s so powerful it’s really boring. So movies have to basically make him so weak to the point where he gets his ass whooped by the injustice team. He’s my favorite but too strong to even really fight anyone. And when he is in movies he’s really weak and can’t show his true strength.
@alphacenturion1812
4 жыл бұрын
JICI Nah I’m not a fan my bro is but he’s only boring when uncreative script writers focus on his power the power is only there for fun that’s why stories like All Star Superman or Kingdom Come are so popular they have him at great power “beyond”ordinary levels but they focus on the story.If power ruined stories than Lucifer and Sandman wouldn’t be big
@BakaryD
4 жыл бұрын
Thor, Lord of Thunder and injustic superman is way weaker than post crisis
@kndnumber1832
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Finally a video that gives Superman the credit he deserves. I believe so many people prefer Silver age Superman over any other because he ha sheen downplayed so much since then. He literally is the butt of all jokes in the latest movies and tv shows. Silver Age was the raw and finale of Siegel and Shusters writing. Then they got fired because he became or was becoming invincible. So the writers now can get away with that because now Superman has visually been downplayed so much to the flash and Batman (and any other superhero) that fans don’t realize how powerful Superman still is or becoming again. So I still prefer silver age but only because of the rawness in writing. But great video and great evidence that Superman is becoming as great as he once was.
@gonzalo20000
3 жыл бұрын
I know your comment is old, but who do you think is more powerful, Pre-crisis or Post-Flashpoint?
@kndnumber1832
3 жыл бұрын
I always go pre crisis. But that’s mainly because that was when Superman’s storyline was consistent due to the comics being written by the original writers. From 1938- mid80’s the story went from leaps and bounds to immunity to magic and kryptonite. The stories flowed to where you can see how superman got so powerful. Which is what ended the original writers career. “Their Superman” got too powerful for any other superhero to compete with. So I really don’t like getting into those debates of pre crisis vs post flashpoint because there was no original plan for those types of storylines until after Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster got fired. After silver age pre crisis and post crisis started to form because they completely reinvented, so to speak, the vision of Superman. Giving him a whole new look over and over and over again. So with other videos out there giving arguments that post flashpoint Superman is more powerful than the silver age Superman doesn’t hold much value because those supermen, because there are more versions than just one, have too much added to them to where they’re not just Superman. Silver age is the last, pure, full power Superman in the comics. That’s why I think that is the strongest Superman because that was the full image of Superman. And just as an added insight even though we’ll never have the pleasure to know if Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster never would’ve gotten fired, I think the entire outline of comics would be different today and the whole debate of pre crisis and post flashpoint would never exist. It would all be more unison and revolve more around each superhero individually which would make a better story as a whole when they teamed up because the hero that started it all wouldn’t have been continually changed to help make the other heroes look better. It would just be what it is and Superman would be on top, but it wouldn’t be in your face. It just be something that was hinted at and just known.
@gonzalo20000
3 жыл бұрын
@@kndnumber1832 Oh I see, I agree with what you say, thank you very much.
@jeff-tj5ye
Жыл бұрын
@@kndnumber1832 why though .
@jesussuarez1011
4 жыл бұрын
*And people really think Goku can defeat this guy*
@alfa01spotivo
3 жыл бұрын
depends which goku
@lancetheking7524
3 жыл бұрын
@@alfa01spotivo bruh, there's only 2 versions of Goku- you're joking aren't you
@alfa01spotivo
3 жыл бұрын
@@lancetheking7524 xeno goku, alternate universes goku, heroes goku, anime canon goku, manga goku, super canon goku, super anime goku, movie goku etc
@sebastianalancliffordthomp4114
3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t watched heroes, but the strongest outside that I think is Mastered Omen form Goku, he’s dozens if not hundreds of times as strong as he was when he survived being hit with a black hole.
@sebastianalancliffordthomp4114
3 жыл бұрын
I posted my reply before I watched the vid :P Comparing high end DC characters to people from other universes makes no sense, the scaling is so stupid it only makes sense to compare them to each other
@jpf7942
4 жыл бұрын
I'm an advocate for Post Crisis Supes. I honestly don't understand how people see him as weak or Dragon Ball fanboys think Goku would stomp him. Once you take into account Post Crisis Superman feats, you can easily see how powerful he actually was. The guy is extremely powerful
@darkgoddarkseid2824
4 жыл бұрын
He is* post Crisis Superman is current one
@kaimarquez8046
3 жыл бұрын
@@darkgoddarkseid2824 actually, you can include basically all of his feet from all of comic book time in the most current one, because he's a combination of the new 52 Kingdom come Golden age is I think, post crisis, and I think a few others. They did this just to get the best of all worlds with their current Superman, and I personally love it. I
@denermalcher5839
3 жыл бұрын
@@kaimarquez8046 if i not wrong, after teh Death metal events all thing the hapened before the reboots are canon now
@kaimarquez8046
3 жыл бұрын
@@denermalcher5839 in the way of Superman experienced all those things, yes you are right. Kind of, DC is technically done like for reboots and only the past few years, so I'm pretty sure what you're saying is true. I'd have to work out the nitty-gritty details, but I think you're right
@thefvguy5648
2 жыл бұрын
That’s because most DragonBall fans have NEVER read Superman comics.
@francisdubem5084
5 жыл бұрын
I love videos like this that give Superman the credit he deserves. I know alot people may not agree with me but superman (no matter the version) is the strongest superhero there is in my opinion. I saw Seth's video but I disagree on Goku being stronger than Superman I believe to some extent this video backs my argument.
@LA_Vandal562
5 жыл бұрын
Lol this guy helped Seth make that video so keep your mouth shut
@francisdubem5084
5 жыл бұрын
WolfPack 1996 there is no need to be rude, if you don’t disagree that’s fine. Everyone has an opinion and this is mine. Just because your behind a computer screen doesn’t give you the licence to be rude. Watch how you speak to people. All the best.
@vecnahenrycreel1300
4 жыл бұрын
@@francisdubem5084 he and martian manhunter ate equally strong.
@jagtech490
4 жыл бұрын
KayOz you are right but you are also wrong.Essentially in characterization they are since it is just the same earth rebooted each time.However in terms of strength they are each different
@Dr.AutismGod
4 жыл бұрын
Did you see his new videos? He says Superman wins.
@johnyblaze11
5 жыл бұрын
i have a friend who always compares superman to the entry in marvel saying he is much more powerful, but with these examples sentry can't even touch him
@supercorppridelgbtequality4380
5 жыл бұрын
Because those are pathethic marveltards
@johnyblaze11
5 жыл бұрын
@@supercorppridelgbtequality4380 yeah but in general marvel mostly outsells dc so they must being something right
@legendary3952
4 жыл бұрын
johnyblaze11 not really Marvel money comes from MCU
@johnyblaze11
4 жыл бұрын
@@UNKNOWN-qr7uo it all depends on who's writing but on average superman is more powerful than sentry
@sigmaofOz
3 жыл бұрын
@@UNKNOWN-qr7uo I'm guessing you haven't realize that this video is just one of the superman post crisis feats he has made .
@TheJayspyder
5 жыл бұрын
12:11 I've personally always seen "invulnerability" as just being another word for super durability. Of course it doesn't mean the character is completely invincible, just that they're super tough and can resist and survive things that would seriously injure or kill ordinary humans.
@williambrown4138
4 жыл бұрын
Superman explains as such during the Pre-Crisis era when talking to Supergirl. He says, "Invulnerability is a relative term Kara"
@r.connor9280
4 жыл бұрын
Theory: Superman is dimensionally displaced due to partial exposure to the intangible Phantom Zone which allows his body to absorb samples of local physics and override it within his own body or small projections like heat vision, X-ray etc.
@primexample8912
4 жыл бұрын
Respect Superman...
@primexample8912
4 жыл бұрын
RubyKing1997 yes
@justsomeponywithamustache8731
4 жыл бұрын
Superman? Yes. His fans? Hell no.
@Kmn2
4 жыл бұрын
Macaroni Pepperoni same with batman
@ashwanikumar-gv6ir
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but he's always insulted by haters.
@tribeofjudah7806
4 жыл бұрын
@@justsomeponywithamustache8731 dragonball fan base is worse
@hazyshade9648
4 жыл бұрын
Screw Attack: Supermans even able to take building level attacks! XD
@Maximus-nz6ez
3 жыл бұрын
The most true thing ever
@dimielgo2267
3 жыл бұрын
Also Screwatack: He can punch harder than a trained boxer.
@kaimarquez8046
3 жыл бұрын
@@dimielgo2267 he also can run faster than a SPEEDING NERF DART!
@paradoxglitch1108
3 жыл бұрын
@@kaimarquez8046 leap over tall cars within a single bound the man of wood superhuman
@kaimarquez8046
3 жыл бұрын
@@paradoxglitch1108 bro, you haven't even heard his best powers. His breath is slightly colder than the average human and can hear slightly better.
@maverickzerox8397
5 жыл бұрын
I’m here after Seth’s Video and I gotta say, you did an amazing job pointing out the solar system level downplay.
@supercorppridelgbtequality4380
5 жыл бұрын
Seth is DB specialist. Not dc. What do u expect
@maverickzerox8397
5 жыл бұрын
Bayonetta top tier of SSB4 bitch what? Seth said Supes would beat Goku.
@maverickzerox8397
5 жыл бұрын
Matthew O'Rosco Seth did say he changed his opinion over the years and BTW Superman breaking the World Forger’s multiversal happened when Supes dipped through several suns.
@vecnahenrycreel1300
4 жыл бұрын
@Matthew O'Rosco seth has updated own info
@gohan2791
4 жыл бұрын
@@maverickzerox8397 Several suns after being weakened
@Metalija1315
5 жыл бұрын
Seth recommended your channel and i must say that i am very impressed! Looking forward to more videos!
@sadsadasdsadasdsadas
2 жыл бұрын
Seth also has no idea what he is talking about, so not surprised these two would recommend each other lol. Death battle is a joke as well.
@Micklad2445
2 жыл бұрын
@@sadsadasdsadasdsadas why would say that ?
@sadsadasdsadasdsadas
2 жыл бұрын
@@Micklad2445 Because he doesn't do the research himself, he has biased people showing him out of context scans for Superman etc etc. If you have read Post crisis superman stories etc etc you'd realize that he is not even 1% as powerful as Seth claims him to be. Screwattack did the same thing... spreading misinformation on that scale is very annoying because it then spreads to battle forums etc.
@Micklad2445
2 жыл бұрын
@@sadsadasdsadasdsadas oh my .. where did you find this out
@sadsadasdsadasdsadas
2 жыл бұрын
@@Micklad2445 By reading Superman comics and finding debunks for his shit... Just reading his comics will tell you that th way he tries to scale Superman is using out of context scans.
@logan6034
5 жыл бұрын
I always find it funny when people claim that Superman is lame and overpowered but then go on to say that characters like Goku, The Hulk or The Sentry can beat him. Lmao! Yeah, ok. They only succeeded in contradicting themselves
@spaceman6463
5 жыл бұрын
Adventist The book is infinite it has every book in the omniverse That includes hyperverses made completely out of books
@spaceman6463
5 жыл бұрын
Adventist No that literally makes it a couple levels above infinite and dc directly states that the multiverse is infinite
@drsupreme1971
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!!..Its just a never ending battle for Supremacy in power levels fuck the stories we just want the most Op characters..If Superman is beaten then Dc is weaker universe..its always about superman vs this or that...No one ever brings up Goku God vs Death Seed Sentry or Surfer or RKT.
@Crimsonfireball
4 жыл бұрын
Fanboy wars in a nutshell
@zan31669
4 жыл бұрын
With these type of debates we should only use current canon feats only
@christiansidneyii4552
5 жыл бұрын
At 8:13 the comic panel shows Brainiac stating that his Colvan brain can process seventy times more than his spinal station. If he's referring to the brain inside his head (I don't know the comics well, so there could be an external database I don't know about), then Superman's intelligence increases because it scales to that total rather than just the spinal station statement.
@bangjang9636
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Can you make one on Barry Allen’s strength? People always say “he’s only speed and that’s it” when there’s so much more to it tbh.
@connormorgan6884
Жыл бұрын
In regards to the infinite book I'd like to add my two cents. In context to the story. Ultraman actually explains to superman and Shazam that there is a God named mandrakk and he would destroy the entire multiverse. So while I do agree with you, the truth is the book doesn't really have an end. Ultraman being ignorant believed the book had an end because he thought mandrakk would win. In the end mandrakk is defeated.
@user-fj6rp8nu9s
Жыл бұрын
I agreed
@SuperVegitoSSJ2
4 жыл бұрын
I think if you made a line of infinity it would extend backwards from where you started it as well as forwards.
@earthgrazer2164
2 жыл бұрын
That's if its acting on a finite space
@yungace1820
5 жыл бұрын
Wanna know how i got these likes ?
@solofiend4082
5 жыл бұрын
Right 🤢
@0oDRAGONFIREo0
5 жыл бұрын
Screw attack needs to do videos about characters they know of before hand a day of research wont compare to someone who has seen the whole series
@spinozilla2421
5 жыл бұрын
0oDRAGONFIREo0 also they shouldn’t allow Ben and chad be the final people to decide who wins since they can be bias and rig a fight, like how they made ganondorf beat bowser despite the research team came to a agreement bowser would destroy ganon with ease, and other example like yang and deadPool due to popularity and favoritism or the fact yang won due them being own by roosterteeth and the creator/friend passed away
@solofiend4082
5 жыл бұрын
@@spinozilla2421 damn
@brianshafer1166
5 жыл бұрын
spino zilla is this all confirmed
@redjirachi1
5 жыл бұрын
1:15: Green Lanterns casually traverse the universe in hours Albert Einstein-Am I a joke to you
@solofiend4082
5 жыл бұрын
Yes 👀😂😂😂
@TheEyez187
5 жыл бұрын
That's if they really did traverse the universe. If the Green Lanterns navigation is as "good" as Superman's maths (7:15), they may have just circumnavigated the solar system!! :D
@carlosandresilvade3320
4 жыл бұрын
SUPERMAN WINS WINS WINS WINS WINS WINS
@adrian_veidt
8 ай бұрын
Now while supes destroyed goku for the third time, it was insulting DB gave them both a tie on speed category. It felt like they give that one to goku out of pity lol
@theboyofsteel528
8 ай бұрын
EXACTLY!!! They were not meant to tie in speed and even skill goes to superman they just wanted to make DBZ fanboys happy and not call them bias
@sptflcrw8583
3 ай бұрын
@@theboyofsteel528their logic for speed was that both are immeasurable
@ccsk6548
5 жыл бұрын
Dude this is awesome so happy I found your channel.
@mrraisintheawsome
4 жыл бұрын
"Do people think that infinity can't ever end?" Yes. That's literally the definition of infinity. (Other than that, great video and wonderful points).
@liams7137
4 жыл бұрын
There are different levels of ‘Infinity’. Marvel discusses/explains this topic during one of their comics. DC itself has an Infinite number of Universes within its Multiverse, yet there are realms like the Godsphere and Limbo that exist beyond it which are far larger.
@mrraisintheawsome
4 жыл бұрын
@@liams7137 For sure, I remember Kubik and Kosmos (that might not be her name, I can't quite remember) talking about the different levels and layers of infinity. But I mean they are all still infinite and would go on for infinity. That's the purpose of infinity, to describe something that never ends.
@callums1235
5 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy to think Martian Manhunter is also this powerful
@Dante-vf4sd
4 жыл бұрын
No, superman is and will always be the most powerful
@arthurwolfgramm4823
4 жыл бұрын
Hes got more powers basically.
@rigo_ad9317
2 жыл бұрын
He has more powers and more abilities that allow him to beat characters like SUPES… but he isn’t straight up more powerful. Never been shown or said… only been implied in a new 52 issue where they show one panel of him fighting off the entire league with an unspecified winner. Meaning we can’t really take any claims from that, and that is also new 52… which isn’t post crisis from this video
@shady8045
4 сағат бұрын
He definitely isn’t. In fact I don’t think any of the justice league other than him reach’s the true upper echelon, at least not the SOS. Maybe everything else tho, in their own ways of course.
@baddragonite
5 жыл бұрын
As long as we can all agree that he could beat Goku in a fight 😂
@benjaminlyons5261
5 жыл бұрын
As long as we can all agree that he could beat Batman in a fight. So tired of that Whiney twat getting any time with supes in comics ever since the first JLA comic
@devashisgd7349
5 жыл бұрын
He pretty much kills anyone in dB
@sofiennabli1497
5 жыл бұрын
@@devashisgd7349 not really as Gogeta would bully him with minimum effort
@sofiennabli1497
4 жыл бұрын
@@raii8727 but he's a pacifist.
@comicreader3875
4 жыл бұрын
@@sofiennabli1497 hell, he can probably speed blitz zeno just because zeno cannot even keep up with dyspo's speed but we dont know how strong his durability is.
@chaddormammu646
4 жыл бұрын
Look up in the sky it’s a bird it’s a plane it’s A Fantastic Superman Powerscale Nice work dude.
@wootywooter5652
4 жыл бұрын
Hes pretty weak. Ive spilt a glass of water on him. He got rekt pretty bad by it.
@leastbasedbaj7454
4 жыл бұрын
Pffft you must not train muchif u had to spilt a glass of water on someone as weak as post crisis superman
@ashwanikumar-gv6ir
4 жыл бұрын
Do it on any comic character they would get destroyed.
@hazyshade9648
4 жыл бұрын
Superman not even glass of water level, confirmed. XD
@lancetheking7524
3 жыл бұрын
@boo tee eh
@sigmaofOz
3 жыл бұрын
@boo tee the story of superman kills them both
@francisdubem5084
4 жыл бұрын
Superman is the most powerful hero of all time. He is the GOAT.
@xXx_RICKY_D_xXx
3 жыл бұрын
there are a lot of characters a lot more powerful than superman
@zanin34122
3 жыл бұрын
@@xXx_RICKY_D_xXx I think he meant great not powerfull
@Indy921
3 жыл бұрын
@@xXx_RICKY_D_xXx well have you heard of the story of super power. He also made a video on it.
@thecrow618
2 жыл бұрын
Not base Superman
@LegacyComics
5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Love that you went this far into the details on Superman.
@idk-iw9kb
5 жыл бұрын
Just to let you know the light from the DC universe is faster than the one in real life
@supercorppridelgbtequality4380
5 жыл бұрын
makes sense as they said speed of light is enough to escape in 0.0000000000000001 microsecond entire city from nuke carrying one person every time
@jpf7942
4 жыл бұрын
@@supercorppridelgbtequality4380 That Flash feat was so absurd I loved it😂
@legendary3952
3 жыл бұрын
@@supercorppridelgbtequality4380 how much faster than our light is that Do you know? That seems super large
@kaimarquez8046
3 жыл бұрын
@@legendary3952 honestly, it could be stayed to be infinitly faster as many of the immeasurable speed feats are done when going at (DC's) speed of light, when a character goes back in time goes to another dimension or to the gods sphere. You don't want to say it's infinite, it's number followed by many zeros
@cleppy1311
2 жыл бұрын
How though??
@darkshadow54
5 жыл бұрын
Here after watching Seth the Programmers video on Goku vs Superman
@P.G13
5 жыл бұрын
Hamzah Jundi you know I kinda had a feeling about Superman sol system level augment during his rebirth days I kinda had a feeling he was muti solo system buster or maybe more
@darkshadow54
5 жыл бұрын
@@P.G13 what really stood out to me was the consistency from silverage to golden age to today
@P.G13
5 жыл бұрын
Hamzah Jundi I think vs wiki gonna fire someone lol
@Heatlifer77
4 жыл бұрын
Hamzah Jundi same
@goofybutserious4807
4 жыл бұрын
What about Chuck?
@coldfire22
5 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid. I wish you included the "Supergirl is stronger than Superman" myth. While for a long time thought possibly true, he himself says otherwise. Yet, probably due to the Supergirl tv show, many still hold on to that.
@krispalermo8133
5 жыл бұрын
Three things to take into that statement," Supergirl is stronger than Superman." 1.) She spent 14 to 16 years on Krypton, stronger muscle development. Kal grew up on Earth is he did not rely on his own muscle strength as a child. 2.)Silver Age Supergirl rocket ended up circling Earth's Sun for like 20 odd years before Superman found her. And in all that time she was soaking up the Sun's energy. Post Crissis, her exscape pod travel through the " Phantom Zone/ hyper space" at a slower speed than Superman's rocket did. 3.) Supergirl was not raise to hold back her strength like Superman did. So she throws her weight around with out knowing how to wield it. Superman Has a Larger Heavier Bio Mass as a Man, than a teenage girl does. Also has has over 15 years of knowledge of how to apply Force. Supergirl Stronger than Superman ? Bull $hit !!!
@Readytogogo
4 жыл бұрын
She is supposed to be stronger because her body has higher density than superman. So the reason superman is so strong is hidden in how his body is built and super girl has more of it ...
@mitansharif9974
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you finally someone explained that superman is way too op he can slap goku vary easily. Super man is just too godly ok godly. superman is beyond a God you can't beat him. He's crazy but thank you bro thank you
@redshankyman9015
4 жыл бұрын
Literally the reason I despise superman, not for his character but for his raw power. The writers of all his stories just say: There was a limit? Not anymore! Then the next writer goes: There was no limit? Let's break that limitless limit!! Way too broken of a character, beyond infinite to me seems like another way of saying 0
@homelessend8557
4 жыл бұрын
@@redshankyman9015 thats like saying that Lucifer Morningstar or Thor are stupud characters because of their raw power
@sigmaofOz
3 жыл бұрын
@weiss schnee The point is that you suck
@christianmaio7443
3 жыл бұрын
It’s proven that goku is MULTI-UNIVERSAL and yet as I believe the guy in the video kept saying Superman has a lot of universal feats. As far as I know multi-universal beats universal feats 🤷🏻♂️
@sigmaofOz
3 жыл бұрын
@@christianmaio7443 that's because you can't understand the feats properly, dumbass. Not to mention, this isn't his only Superman video.
@grayscarab5784
4 жыл бұрын
Great job on explaining feats here. I just have one correction though, when Superman beat Superboy Prime they both had lost their powers due to flying through a red sun, Superman won due to his superior combat experience, it was established many times that Superman was much weaker at that point in time than Prime.
@happyfatherof5164
4 жыл бұрын
I fangirls still claming Goku can beat Superman....hahaha what a joke
@Dr.AutismGod
4 жыл бұрын
Some versions of Goku can beat Superman, some versions of Superman can beat Goku. That simple
@randomknowledgeperson2872
4 жыл бұрын
The strongest versions of Goku can beat the weakest versions of Superman. The Strongest versions(excluding prime one million, Cosmic Armor, and strange visitor) can beat all versions of Goku.
@ugandanknuckles3981
4 жыл бұрын
Just a Happy American-Canadian I have seen claim from a dragon ball fanboy that Beerus could solo 90 percent of both marvel and dc comic at the same time without trying
@randomknowledgeperson2872
4 жыл бұрын
Ugandan Knuckles. Soooooo. That is what we like to call in the VS community a Wild fanboy. Be ware. There debunk claws can scrape through any logical argument and their biased skin can shield any facts that you throw at them. Be ware! BE! WARE!
@ugandanknuckles3981
4 жыл бұрын
GameTomCat and seen a guy who says a multiverse is only a planet qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-1f809375da2104861036c50d196c7ec8
@thinmintthemonkey2435
5 жыл бұрын
For a new channel, this shit is VERY good and INCREDIBLY in depth! I am happy to say i subscribed and if you keep this up, will stay subscribed!
@hashiondiscord8540
5 жыл бұрын
VSB: 66 universal feats, sounds like the four solar system feats are more consistent.
@chiefhuck
5 жыл бұрын
LMAOOOO
@vecnahenrycreel1300
4 жыл бұрын
@Darius Doolittle I tried yesterday to debate one black hole shattering feat for live action supergirl. They can only downplay despite logical arguments. Bunch of scums do not bother with them.
@markossantiago4841
4 жыл бұрын
Black Lightning43 Oh my goodness, Comic Vine is much worse! It took my so long explaining to multiple people that off guard and omnidirectional light speed attacks such as lasers, light beams, and projectiles don’t at all tag or even touch Wonder Woman in combat, hell its consistently casual for her and yet we’ve seen characters such as Superman or the Flash land attacks on her, so they would easily scale to that in combat as a large low end, hell, you can downplay the crap out of them at FTL, but no, they want to downplay and use inconsistent statements such as “No one can keep up with Flash unless he’s moving at 9000 mph”😨🤷♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️.
@markossantiago4841
4 жыл бұрын
Black Lightning43 I had this dumbass try to “debunk” the idea that travel speed and combat speed are different by “Do you see humans running at high speeds while typing on multiple computers and phones?”😂😂😂I literally had to use that as my example of a straw man fallacy
@vecnahenrycreel1300
4 жыл бұрын
@@markossantiago4841 kzitem.info/news/bejne/1mt81pWjiWl_gIo Idk do u watch CW Supergirl show but u can watch clip: Kara: What is she doing ? ( Midnight who was so powerful and dangerous, had to be closed in Phantom Zone what is already stated to be a region in space where time doesn't exists or place where time doesn't pass or sth beyond time and space or space between dimensions + Midnight feeds with concept of death and blocks with her power phantom zone projector what has fragment of antimatter, power of unlimited source of kryptonian pods, capable of oneshoting 3 solar system at once and oneshots universe out of existence across time/history and space what is 2-A) Brainy: She is creating black hole ( as u see black hole of radical 4 meters what is already star lvl feat + Midnight was doing this casually ) Kara: Brainy ?! If i solar flare can i shut it down Then Brainy explains properties characteristic of black hole. Ok sure cgi maybe wasn't at all like it wasn't desintegrating theater but still event horizont which doesn't let light out, endless vortex etc, And Supergirl with J'onn tanked the void ( with it's destruction ) of this 4 meters black hole, Supergirl shattered it via solar flare+ her heatvision even Flash cannot dodge/reacting and Flash is casually mtfl+ at dodging ( traveling not unless uses flashtime ) Her Solar flare already atomised Red Tornado stated to be based on kryptonian physiology and solar flare was used as fuel to upload Exodus ship capable of reaching other side of at least observable universe in less than a second. Then try then to downplay why they clothes weren't obliterated... Kara has nanotech suit, nanotech comparable to Lena's nanotech which itself has planetary lvl greater than subatomic matter manipulation so this matter man. protected her clothes. J'onn J'onnz ?! THis was his natural, organic, shapeshifted suit as Kara said b4 can u shapeshift etc. + Supergirl in all stats should be really casually planetary or Large planetary but f**k this. Naaah but screew this. VSBW admins are too lazy, retarded and biased. WOOOW SO MCU DR. STRANGE HAS RIGHT TO HAVE 0,25 METERS BLACK HOLE TRANSMUTATION FEAT AS CREDIBLE ( MAKING IT LARGE PLANET LVL TRANSMUTATION ) BUT CW HEROES HAS NO RIGHT TO IT DESPITE THEY ARE CONSISTENT WITH THEIR FEATS NOT MENTIONING FLASH ENTERING BLACK HOLE AND SURVIVING EXISTENCE ERASING COLLISION WITH ANTIMATTER OR ABILITY TO CARRY INCORPOREAL BEINGS !!!! I said to them suck my **** and they banned me. Bunch of cowards, wankers and downplayers. Not gonna wast my time on this shit. Comic Flash is casually high immesurable like Superman or Martian or WW. Woow term of speed of light as 3*10^8 m/s was accurate term in 70's. SoL in DC terms is sth like immesurable to irrelevant speed, speed of gods etc. U are wasting your time seriously.
@FloralHaze
4 жыл бұрын
I love you parrot, GOATed power scaler
@agu-man6065
5 жыл бұрын
The thing when people bring up post crisis superman. I'm mainly a power scaler. But I asked which version there using since they tired combining them all in one. But we know that Milk man man & Cosmic Armor Superman are the strongest version of superman
@Cosmic8099
5 жыл бұрын
Sakura The Duelist isn't even milkman man stronger than CAS?
@wendyandmiketerell997
5 жыл бұрын
MaKappa he actually is he is the strongest version of Superman
@agu-man6065
5 жыл бұрын
@@wendyandmiketerell997 that's what I meant thanks for replying to me
@wendyandmiketerell997
5 жыл бұрын
Sakura The Duelist I know it’s late but no problem 😀
@agu-man6065
5 жыл бұрын
@@wendyandmiketerell997 thanks
@mr.badenglishspeaker6605
2 жыл бұрын
The virgin one punch man vs the chad Superman
@jasrathlimbu291
2 жыл бұрын
Ohhhhhh true i forgot that boldy is virgin.
@jaffarhussain7256
4 жыл бұрын
Post Crisis= Multiversal Pre-Crisis=Multiversal++ Prime=Stronger than Mxy (who's said to be beyond multiversal)... One Million=Million times stronger than normal Superman (Who is said to be near multiversal level because All Star Superman punched god brianiac so hard, all brianiacs across the multiverse felt that punch) Strange Visitor=Hyperversal Quantum=Beyond Hyperversal++ Cosmic Armour=Outerversal level++
@jaredbowen3527
4 жыл бұрын
I like that.But i have a question milkman bets cosmic armour superman right?
@jaffarhussain7256
4 жыл бұрын
@@jaredbowen3527 yup but remember CA Superman killed a powerful being who consumed stories and had no narrative control plus CAS can adapt anything
@CrownMe13
4 жыл бұрын
Is Prime really stronger than Mxy? Can’t Mxy just imagine him out of existence if he wanted to
@nameisnotimportant4856
4 жыл бұрын
Prime is not stronger than Mxy lol. He's so overrated nowadays. Milkman man>>>CAS btw.
@ugurkaraalioglu2813
4 жыл бұрын
@@nameisnotimportant4856 milkman superman = high outversal cas = outversal
@TheGeekForFun
5 жыл бұрын
Going to refer to this going forward in my Dragon Ball DC what ifs! Great video man, would love to collab sometime.
@WebCamParrot
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah we could collab sometime that would be good just hit me up on discord or twitter or something.
@nathanmontgomery1516
3 жыл бұрын
@@WebCamParrot it would be massively awesome for you guys to collab
@Dehumanizer3000
5 жыл бұрын
And people think Goku can beat him?
@KonohazFinest
5 жыл бұрын
There are some who just can't accept the fact that supes would obliterate Goku instantly
@supercorppridelgbtequality4380
5 жыл бұрын
@@KonohazFinest Anime fanboys overally cannot accept the truth Marvel and DC have plenty of guys who could solo stomp their verses
@spiritualkiller14
10 ай бұрын
Goku stomps easily
@jhonnyforyou4850
5 жыл бұрын
A good speed feat came from new52(half power) supes also travelling 100 trillion lightyearz in 2 months Also left out a big versatility of his torquasm vo which he can you to enter the astral plane and create psionic constructs
@namaj3122
5 жыл бұрын
Jhon Mist that’s nothing compared to his speed feat in Superman beyond. New 52 is like solar system
@supercorppridelgbtequality4380
5 жыл бұрын
@@namaj3122 New 52 heroes besides Martian Manhunter and some sorcerrers were nerfed to oblivion. Thx god Rebirth fixed them
@nostalgiadad7137
4 жыл бұрын
New 52 is probably one of the weakest supermen. He still benched the earth for a week. Not a 1 rep max but for reps for a week.
@sleepindogs6328
5 жыл бұрын
Wow superman was way stronger than goku thanks
@MrBigcuts36
5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Can't wait for you to do his other versions.
@melvingenao550
4 жыл бұрын
Basically Superman>>Hulk Then immortal Hulk came and gave Hulk a crazy amp at multiversal levels. Little did hulk know that getting amps is still nothing compared to supermans amp which puts him at the outerversal levels. Superman wins .
@poderosojiren8595
4 жыл бұрын
Outversal? Bro, Superman is just Universal.
@comicreader3875
4 жыл бұрын
@@poderosojiren8595 *base form superman* is universal, you forgot about thetha state superman which is an amp version of post-crisis superman that has plot manipulation and outerversal. that is like base goku going SSJ3 but it is still main goku.
@thecrow618
2 жыл бұрын
Immortal Hulk was the potential of base Hulk but it wasn't amp
@davidselawsky6620
4 жыл бұрын
Supes would destroy Thor and Hulk. No doubt
@zanin34122
3 жыл бұрын
Depends on which Thor and Hulk
@sigmaofOz
3 жыл бұрын
@@zanin34122 And it depends on which Superman , since the most powerful Superman transcends even the presence himself .
@excaliburknives3572
2 жыл бұрын
Not at the same time though. That’s a little much.
@ExileTwilight
5 жыл бұрын
I believe the video can easily be summed up as "Superman is as powerful as the author needs him to be. Every time he's struggling he's just holding back because (reasons)"
@davidnewhart2533
4 жыл бұрын
So Post-Crisis Superman is actually stronger than Goku, Beerus, and Whis... Holy Cow.
@lucassimms8163
4 жыл бұрын
No. only if you combine them all. like seth did in his latest superman vs goku video.
@cyber847
4 жыл бұрын
@@lucassimms8163 he didn't combine, it was just post crisis
@swxqt6826
4 жыл бұрын
David Newhart oh boy the hate you’ll receive
@davidnewhart2533
4 жыл бұрын
@@swxqt6826 I mean a buffed Post-Crisis Superman did an outerversal feat, so... (I'm not saying he's outerversal or anything by the way.)
@swxqt6826
4 жыл бұрын
David Newhart yeah I know he’s not outerversal nor am I saying you do it’s just the way fanboys work
@quasarspirit574
4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Incredibly thorough, he's a lot stronger then I was thinking. What do you think about the recent apparent feat of Rebirth Superman causing the Phantom Zone to tremor?
@swxqt6826
4 жыл бұрын
QuasarSpirit well to me that feat is absolute and utter definition of His true power
@austinwoods466
5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Great splicey/splicey (editing), and I love the music selection.
@TheInfamousTonyG210
Жыл бұрын
Supermans potential is limitless
@URIZEN-uo9rg
2 жыл бұрын
Who said Superman can’t regenerate limbs . He regenerated his heart when ripped apart by joker , in the new 52 he regenerated his hand when amputated.
@Wolfiyeethegranddukecerberus17
9 ай бұрын
So to summarize: Superman, when not holding back, can one-shot Brainiac with a clap, who rewrote an entire universe He fought Nebula Man, a living universe
@xc3bobby768
9 ай бұрын
My friends aren’t in to comic like I’am but we started watching invincible and they are CONVINCED Omni man can beat Superman so I had to show them this video 😂
@theboyofsteel528
8 ай бұрын
Omni man? 😂😂
@sommoarcano
Жыл бұрын
Superman can manipulate concept of weight and distance (have always this power and only sah when fight luthor he acknowledge this power)
@fanboy8026
3 жыл бұрын
superman biggest feat is saying to goku that "so you finally run out of hair style"
@URIZEN-uo9rg
2 жыл бұрын
Whoa that’s really impressive being able to put you entire body back together after it was cut into peices . Yet people underate Superman’s healing factor
@antovald20
4 жыл бұрын
Wow you nailed everything, and totally subscribing/liking.
@supersaiyantayt
5 жыл бұрын
different writers have different .....takes on super man... but they are all ridiculous
@Lord_Genghis_Khan
5 жыл бұрын
Father of all superheroes.....
@blackmanhulk605
5 жыл бұрын
The truth is Post Crisis Superman is better then Silver Age Superman.
@huntera9507
5 жыл бұрын
Blackman Hulk better but not stronger
@blackmanhulk605
5 жыл бұрын
Well I to say yes thats true.
@alexbaribeault
4 жыл бұрын
Why didn't Death Battle mention any of those feats in both Goku vs Superman episodes?? I feel like if they did, the contreversy would be at least A LITTLE bit less huge.
@TheLegendaryLegacy
3 жыл бұрын
Given the time the DB was written and how most who watched were 8-10 years less mature. No. No it would’ve been worse actually.
@jaysealenduro5618
4 жыл бұрын
Talking about supes martial arts, A good martial artist using HtH is different from a good martial artist using a different style they all have different kinds of fighting style and superman has unique fighting style compared to all heroes.
@Berix
5 жыл бұрын
Nice! I’d love to see a video on Kyle Rayner or really any other GL. While they aren’t generally underestimated, I still haven’t seen very much on them.
@bigwolf123456
5 жыл бұрын
Remember kids if a boomtube canges yo subatomic structure to match those of an outerversal constructs and surevive their exploitation u 2 are now are also outerversal in strength 4ever.
@fictionrumble
4 жыл бұрын
post crisis superman vs goku....post crisis superman wins by 99.99% or 100% percent of the time
@christianmaio7443
3 жыл бұрын
Goku is multi universal, Superman is universal so idk bout that, just sounds like ur heavily down playing goku
@excaliburknives3572
2 жыл бұрын
@@christianmaio7443 maybe. But Superman can literally just dip into a sun and he’s fully healed with new powers, such as an immunity to kryptonite. Not to mention Superman possesses a tenth level intellect. Lex Luther and brainiac only have a 9th.
@gautams7885
4 жыл бұрын
Still some people say that thor is stronger. I hope they see this video.
@assainscreed1234
4 жыл бұрын
They are fucking delusional
@nkuniverse7856
4 жыл бұрын
Thor? Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Bruh They Are Morons
@darkgoddarkseid2824
4 жыл бұрын
Nice joke. I like this :D Thor is like ant for Supes.
@extrakt1559
2 жыл бұрын
@@assainscreed1234 that's why superman already beat thor and he beat hulk 3 times in a row 😂😂 even marvel writers even know it.
@supercorppridelgbtequality4380
5 жыл бұрын
If u were to make live action Superman from strongest to weakest what would be the order ? I would say: 1. Smallville/Welling ( especially S11 ) 2. Christopher Reeve/Brandon Routh 2006 ( but honestly Reeve one was kind of plot device ) 3. Arrowverse/Hoechlin ( especially post Elseworlds ) 4. DCEU/Cavill ( Motherbox amp ) 5. Rest of them
@P.G13
5 жыл бұрын
Bayonetta top tier of SSB4 bitch how can dceu Superman be weaker then arrow Superman?
@bowserfierykoopaking4235
5 жыл бұрын
@@P.G13 CW Superman has better feats. He can rip apart ships which tank Krypton obliteration, tank Monitor full pwer blast ( without any enchantments ), also like dceu supes off screen stop tectonic plate, can penetrate daxamian mothership force field with supergirl. Has better HV and freeze breath.
@clarkkent4565
5 жыл бұрын
Good list
@P.G13
5 жыл бұрын
Wonder Woman can you give me the link for those feats
@dianajimenez4406
5 жыл бұрын
Seth the program I sent me here Great channel earned a subscriber.
@cosmicarmor2426
4 жыл бұрын
The scan with Superman and Darkseid has Lois stating "star system" not solar system. After that part you talk about the Void Hound being capable of destroying star systems.
@malfaroangel3896
3 жыл бұрын
This video should settle the debate that Goku will ever beat Superman. Superman will wreck Goku
@luckyjay2315
4 жыл бұрын
Superman holds his own against darkseid.... Goku would die.. By just lookin🤣
@AmaanKhan-fq4io
4 жыл бұрын
Actually super man doesnt just hold his own against darksied but beat the absolute crap outta him most of the times
@sebastianalancliffordthomp4114
3 жыл бұрын
Until I saw this I thought it would be an ok fight but... Dc power scaling just makes no sense outside it’s own system. It’s just bullshit, this is completely insane
@sebastianalancliffordthomp4114
3 жыл бұрын
Like what the fuck is going on with boom tubes?! Shadows crushing the multiverse?! Fuck this
@masatomiyahara5963
3 жыл бұрын
um goku is a universe buster
@masatomiyahara5963
3 жыл бұрын
dude goku is a tripe universe buster
@melvingenao550
5 жыл бұрын
Please do a theta state Superman please!
@ericmadsen9655
5 жыл бұрын
The Theta State Superman video would an interesting to watch. Now if this Supes could not only learn how to use the TS but master it.
@RedXCorona
4 жыл бұрын
and animefans still crying why goku has no chance against this Alpha Being .. he is just better and more powerfull than any version of Goku ...
@swxqt6826
4 жыл бұрын
R3dC0r0n4 Capsule Corp Goku defeats Superman (Post Crisis) but not a purple sun dipped one
@kaystruenoo
4 жыл бұрын
Xeno Goku and Shin Budokai Goku literally shits on every form of Superman except strange visitor and cosmic armor
@sofiennabli1497
4 жыл бұрын
Xeno Goku says Hi
@ceruledge7934
3 жыл бұрын
@@kaystruenoo xeno goku may have more power but speed wise superman would speed blitz him
@kaystruenoo
3 жыл бұрын
@@ceruledge7934 Xeno goku has infinite speed
@Tones2372
3 жыл бұрын
Lol Goku, Thor, Flash, Saitama, Hulk, Batman, Scarlet witch, shazam and anyone else like that people put superman against would all lose XD ppl take the fanboying to a new extreme. Superman is ALWAYS holding back lol if he wasn't he could destroy the entire universe in less then second XD
@xXx_RICKY_D_xXx
3 жыл бұрын
not even the most powerful version of superman can destroy a universe
@hashiondiscord8540
3 жыл бұрын
@@xXx_RICKY_D_xXx base post crisis has over a hundred pieces of evidence fo him being universal
@xXx_RICKY_D_xXx
3 жыл бұрын
@@hashiondiscord8540 lmfao. ok, if you say so
@hashiondiscord8540
3 жыл бұрын
@@xXx_RICKY_D_xXx unless you want to try to explain away those hundread pieces of evidence and present a new consistency hes just universal+
@xXx_RICKY_D_xXx
3 жыл бұрын
@@hashiondiscord8540 don't feel like wasting my time on a superman fanboy. you figure it out on your own
@porobotboyxxx
4 жыл бұрын
10:02-10:53 *Superman's Heat Vision* was even capable of stopping *Cole Parker/The Persuader's Atomic Axe.* Which was in the process of cutting through *dimensions* as shown in the *Adventures of Superman issue 602.* So yeah, *Superman's Heat Vision* is definitely downplayed in the *Vs. Community...* like a lot.
@warlord8106
4 жыл бұрын
Then we have them turns things around and say superman is an overpowered and boring character and goku, one punch man and all might are better written and more likeable, mark my words.
@porobotboyxxx
4 жыл бұрын
@@warlord8106 Tell me about it, people sometimes say that even though characters like Goku and Saitama are more developed than Superman. But in actuality they're just bare bone and simplistic. All Goku wants to do is fight strong people, eat and break through his limits. While Saitama... he just doesn't want to be bored, due to finishing off most opponents in a single punch. That's all the development that comes from their characters, people like to say that Goku and Saitama are more developed than Superman, cause... *A.* They've never read a Superman comic, before. *B.* They're mostly referring to the Anime they watched, where both Goku and Saitama basically ride on the story of the Anime. In order to make up for their lack of proper character traits and development. Along with the Anime's amazing visual effects.
@warlord8106
4 жыл бұрын
@@porobotboyxxx True, between that kind of baised treatement and attitude along with having endured bullying in my life, its largely why i avoid anime and manga like the plague.
@porobotboyxxx
4 жыл бұрын
@@warlord8106 I'm sorry to hear that.😔 I know where you're coming from.
@warlord8106
4 жыл бұрын
@@porobotboyxxx thankyou for understanding
@mr_bern_777
8 ай бұрын
Question, i heard some people say That sups caps at multi? But i’am arguing, that he at the very least is Complex multi, because like the video said he shattered space and time, even though he was holding back, so what is sups scale, Multi? Complex? Hyper? Outer? I just wanna know
@Bepo_is_the_goat_of_goats
7 ай бұрын
You can get him to outer buy saying darkseid is a platonic concept and hé beat him
@mr_bern_777
7 ай бұрын
@@Bepo_is_the_goat_of_goats oooooohhhhh thanks, and also he is above wonder woman and the olympian gods who are all archetypes, meaning that can also scale him out to outer
Goku fans I hope you are watching. And most importantly... LISTENING. You Dragon Ball fans don't like to do that.
@user-sc7qb4lv4o
4 жыл бұрын
They should realise that the strongest goku incarnation is xeno goku. At best a +5 dimentional being. And gfg is kinda overrated and has been debunked of its power. And the canon goku in super is low complex multiversal at best.
@froger9973
4 жыл бұрын
@@user-sc7qb4lv4o Xeno Goku isn't the Strongest version that goes to CC Goku. Xeno Goku isn't 5D he's High 6D to Low 7D. Possibly even higher because of his Limit Breaker Super Saiyan 4 Transformation.
@user-sc7qb4lv4o
4 жыл бұрын
@@froger9973 I ment xenoverse goku. My bad for not being specific.
@user-sc7qb4lv4o
4 жыл бұрын
@@froger9973 xeno goku isn't above time itself. He's still below zeno or the grand priest while they're also 4D. So xeno goku is still 4D. The grand priest can be debated because there's only one of him tho. But he's still restricted by time and space.
@froger9973
4 жыл бұрын
@@user-sc7qb4lv4o LMAO, Xeno Goku is way beyond Super can even comprehend. Watch a Video made by Chuck Regarding Xeno Goku and You'll know how broken he is.
@carmelo6546
3 жыл бұрын
With the infinity, infinity does not have a beginning or end, because it infinite. If you take a line, and stretch it out left and right infinitely, it does infact technically have no starting point
@SoloPanda1
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah he messed up badly on the book of infinite pages part. If the book has a final page or an ending, then it is not infinite. Infinite literally means limitless/endless.
@trappedcosmos
Жыл бұрын
If you have taken geometry in school you know what a ray is, that is infinite
@orinprime3282
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the post. I think you might have hit on this, although not specifically stated. There was a JLA:Classified where Superman held within his grip Something so small, but a universe destroyer John Stewart finally grabbed it and contained it. It was like an eg for a new reality. Also, The golden Age Superman deserves every ounce of respect. Not only for what he has accomplished, but for that smack down he gave the anti-monitor and much more.
@SkyRider4815
Жыл бұрын
Without golden age superman there won't be any comic superheroes guy started it all in action comics 1
@sully571
3 ай бұрын
but people will say batman beating superman isn't plot induced stupidity
@dylantuf6228
5 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a video like this on Doctor Strange. Great work! Keep it up!
@brianvalorheart1439
4 жыл бұрын
Nice video. So, Superman is most likely Universe level+ rather than Solar System level. Does this mean characters who are shown to be equal or nearly equal to Superman in strength, durability and speed such as Shazam/Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, Green Lanterns and Fellow Kryptonians should all scale to Universe level+? And what about Superboy Prime? Do you think he was truly stronger than SA Superman since it took both GA Superman, who was shown to be SA's equal, and Post- Crisis together to beat him even though GA died.
@swxqt6826
4 жыл бұрын
Bayonetta Umbra When Superman stated Martian ManHunter to be the most powerful being on earth he was NOT taking about raw power as MMH wasn’t even top 10 in speed but guess who’s number 4! Yup the Man Of Steel Also there are no feats where MMH has fought a not holding back Superman and actually won so Superman was most likely talking about versatility in terms of the number of things he can do and since MMH has more powers then that would kinda mean he’s more powerful though since they’ve never really fought without Superman holding back we can’t say for sure if he said what he said because he holds back more than MMH I mean, the dude’s literally high multiversal + and sleeps with a human woman in his bed so if he’s not holding back I don’t know who does
@xbox70333
2 күн бұрын
Imagine writing a whole comic about what is essentially 'plot armor' lmao
@porobotboyxxx
3 жыл бұрын
17:29-17:46 *VS Battles Wiki and AnimationRewind:* Yo!
@losojacobs5164
4 жыл бұрын
No way hulk beats superman
@kos3272
3 жыл бұрын
Its a tie since hulk is immortal
@lxfcrt4971
2 жыл бұрын
Depends because Hulk can be pretty Op
@excaliburknives3572
2 жыл бұрын
@@lxfcrt4971 the issue is anger, along with any other emotion, can only be held for about 3 minutes. Any longer and you just exhaust your resources.
@lxfcrt4971
2 жыл бұрын
@@excaliburknives3572 you do realize that Hulk has lasted hours even days being angry, saying it lasts only 3 minutes is a huge lowball
@JTAEKOOK4EVRR
4 жыл бұрын
And people say that sentry and thor and hulk are stronger than superman smh
@eivor3975
2 жыл бұрын
More powerful not stronger
@JTAEKOOK4EVRR
2 жыл бұрын
@@eivor3975 what is the difference
@williambrown4138
4 жыл бұрын
One thing on the Silver Age Superman part. While Golden Age did fight with in on equal terms, the comics make it clear that Golden Age got weaker as time progressed, most evident during Crisis on Infinite Earths when he says Pre-Crisis Superman is actually stronger than him. Not to mention that Silver Age did many Universal Feats while canonically at half power during the Sand Superman storyline.
@bimmer96m32
3 жыл бұрын
They don’t want to listen to logic like that. They just want to stick to their idea of post crisis = golden age = silver age Superman so they can apply all of golden and silver age’s best feats to post crisis
@sigmaofOz
3 жыл бұрын
Post crisis Superman literally has more universal and beyond feats than Silver Age Superman.
@jackdullboy8723
3 жыл бұрын
Don't know if you'll reply to this or even see this, but this is a great video. It's very comprehensive and shows an excellent knowledge of the material you're working with. I am a fan of your other videos, too. Like the one on the Doom Patrol, very mind bending, I love it. I do have one criticism. I don't think your explanation here of the book of Infinite pages is quite sufficient. I don't think it's the strongest argument to make when trying to debunk other people's claim of it not really being infinite. What I agree on is that Ultraman is literally just Superman, so him being able to do it means it should scale to Superman too. Superman and Captain Marvel was briefly able to hold it up, but they failed. And the real reason I think they failed at that point and the reason why the book has a last page, as far as I see it anyway, is because Mandrakk was consuming all stories everywhere, that is why the book has a last page and isn't really truly infinite when Ultraman picked it up. I may be wrong on this of course. Final Crisis is kinda infamous for being very hard to understand, with tons of side materials and knowledge of the company's history to go through. Great video, wishing you the best.
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