I'm a new EV owner who purchased a 2018 Leaf from a BMW dealer. Their elec. charging station did not work on the Leaf and they informed me they would have to take it off the lot to charge it. BMW said they had the plugs that came with the car in the back and I never asked to see them, I just trusted them because they were so nice and professional). I left the car there so they could repair a small dent in the bumper. In the meantime, I have no idea how to charge the car, so I came to KZitem and typed, "How to charge 2018 Nissan Leaf." Out of the ten videos I watched, I still had doubts about how to charge it and what plugs I needed. Paul's video popped up and FINALLY! None of the other videos came close to the quality and "need to know" information I needed like Paul's. I even learned more stuff as a bonus! There is no one here trying to be a reviewer / comedian or fill the video with "commercial" type images and visuals that have nothing to do with information about the vehicle chargers and charging stations. Thank you, Paul! Best information video out there!
@paulshoover
6 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful and sorry for thr rotten experience to start with. Just trying to educate and inform. Wishing you a great one!
@Tron-Jockey
Жыл бұрын
Nice video Paul. Very helpful for new owners. I'll add a few things that I've learned over the past 6 years with my 2015 and 2019 Leafs. Nissan Leaf 62 kWh pack is actually about 56 kWh useable. Your charging rate numbers are right on track for a brand-new battery. Level 1 is 120V@ 12A = 1.44 kW is roughly 2.5%/hour (US standard voltage is 120V not 110V) Level 2 is 240V @ 27.5A = 6.60 kW is roughly 11.8%/hour Level 3 (also called HVDC) = varies according to the charging station, the SOC and the temperature of the battery pack. - Don't use HVDC charging if you can help it. IMHO the Leaf simply was not designed to use it. Without Active Thermal Management (Liquid Cooling) you risk driving the battery temperature into the red, especially if you've just pulled off the highway after an extended period of highspeed driving (>80 mph). Fast charging after extended periods of highspeed driving combined with living where ambient temperatures can exceed 100F (think Arizona) are a death sentence for the Leaf. - Don't charge to 100% if you don't need to and don't leave your Leaf sit at 100% SOC for extended periods of time. If you need to charge to 100% then plan to use the vehicle right away. I've learned that it's not a good idea to leave it at 100% even over a weekend. The damage may be small but it's cumulative and I suspect that even charging to 100% every evening after work and leaving it sit for 10 hours or more every night will accumulate damage after a few years. This isn't an issue for LFP chemistry but is very applicable to NCA and especially our Leaf's NMC chemistries. - Charging rate and temperature are very interdependent even on the low end. There is some important new data on charging and battery life from recent cold weather studies performed on the Leaf. In this report they suggest that all charging below 50F should be Level 1 charging to prevent "Plating". Some very interesting reading for Leaf owners. Google "Cold-Weather-Issues-for-EVs-in-Alaska"
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
I will check out the article you referenced. Really great feedback on the leaf. Thanks so much for sharing. I'm still figuring things out and happy with our purchase.
@Shacon24
Жыл бұрын
Anytime when under 50F i should only charge with 1,4kW? I live in Germany, a third of our year is below 50F and I need to charge it from 20 to 80% after 4 days of work... Is it a large impact? I charge often but just with 6,6kw and keep the battery between 20% and 80% while also not driving like a maniac.. I had my leaf since 4 months now :D
@dhouse-d5l
Жыл бұрын
Y r u driving at those speeds in an electric vehicle? The while point of this EV idea is to save the planet.
@Plisken65
9 ай бұрын
@user-wz2qe2pv6r actually, it to facilitate totalitarian control over the population. The planet doesn't need saving.
@laura-ann.0726
Жыл бұрын
FYI for EV owners living in homes built before 1996: The NEMA 14-50 plug shown in this video has been around for many decades, but in homes built before 1996, it's typically only found in the kitchen, for powering an electric cooking range. The connection in the garage or laundry room for electric dryers will likely be a NEMA 10-30R outlet. This is a 240 volt, single phase, 3-pin outlet with a Hot, a Neutral, and a Center Tap line, but NO GROUND, unlike the NEMA 14-50, which is a 4-pin outlet (Hot, Neutral, Common, and Ground). Many EVSE's will not work properly off of a NEMA 10-30R outlet even with a 14-50R to 10-30P adapter, because they expect the supply circuit to be grounded, and if there's no ground, they will not connect. If the dryer outlet in your garage has only 3 pins, it's a NEMA 10-30R, and you will need to find out from your car's manufacturer if the supplied EVSE can be used in an ungrounded 240 volt outlet. It's already well-known that Teslas can not be charged from a NEMA 10-30R dryer outlet because of this issue. Another issue with 120 volt (Level 1) charging: the charge rate is not only 60% slower than Level 2, it's not as efficient: Sending a kilowatt of power through a 120 volt circuit means twice as many amps have to flow as would be needed to send the same 1 kilowatt through a 240 volt circuit. Doubling the current flow (amps) doubles the amount of "line loss": when electric current flows in a conductor, some of the power becomes heat that is lost to the atmosphere. To get the most efficient charge for an EV at home with as little heat loss as possible, always use Level 2 charging, even if you have to install a NEMA 14-50R outlet in your garage and run a new line for it to your breaker box. Charging Cost: If you have not yet owned an EV, but are considering one for your next vehicle, DC fast charging is very expensive - 2 to 4 times more than you pay at home per kilowatt-hour for Level 2 charging. Depending on where you live, residential electric rates are generally 10 to 14 cents per kw-hour between midnight and 06:00, and many utility companies have incentives for EV owners, usually a few percent discount on the rate between midnight and 06:00. Electrify America, EV-G0, and Charge Point are 43¢/kw-hour - 4 times more than I pay to charge my Prius Prime at home in Sacramento, CA. So try to avoid DC fast charging; you will save money, and your EV battery will last longer.
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
So many great tidbits here. Thanks!
@mteifke
Жыл бұрын
actually the pin layout for 240v 4 wire is hot, neurtral, hot, ground as common and neutral are the same thing.
@peteowens3033
5 ай бұрын
I have had my LEAF Plus almost a year now. I have found the easiest way to compute reaching 80 to 85% charge is to: Read the message the car gives you at shutdown as to what time the car will be fully charged ( it is assuming you are going ahead and plug it in now). After seeing the estimate of, let's say 3:00 AM to 100% charge (as an example), subtract 2 to 2 1/2 hours from that. That should give the car an estimated 80-85% charge around 12:30 to 1:00 AM. If you are going to plug in and start charging now set the end time for 12:30 or so. If you want it to start later you now can estimate how many hours you need to charge by subtracting what time it is now from the 12:30 AM end time. Adjust your start to stop time span to equal that same length of time. There are some variables, temp, battery condition, actual line voltage your charger receives and the state of charge the car is in but this is a way to get close. You can tweak the amount of time to subtract from the 100% estimate as you narrow in on the best number for your current situation.
@paulshoover
5 ай бұрын
good advice here.
@Epiphany2000
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video. It is very informative. Of note, one can make these calculation by using some mathematical formulas. The Leaf Plus has a battery capacity of 62 kWh with a usable capacity of approximately 56 kWh (according to another commenter). From there, you just need to know the voltage & amperage of the charge. Here’s an example: Battery Capacity = 56 kWh Voltage = 240 Amperage = 27.5 (this is the maximum that the Leaf will accept via a Level 2 charge) Time to charge from 0-100%: Battery Capacity / (Voltage * Amperage / 1000). In this case, the numbers would be 56 / (240 * 27.5 / 1000) = 8.48 hours to fully charge Percentage per hour: (Voltage * Amperage / 1000) / Battery Capacity. In this case, the numbers would be (240 * 27.5 / 100) / 56 = 11.79% The car will slow down the charging rate when it nears full capacity, so charging time will increase if you plan to charge to or near 100%. If you plug these numbers into a spreadsheet, you can play the with variables and see how the charging time changes. Of note, the amperage capacity of the 240 volt circuit will vary depending on the wiring and the breaker. Moreover, regardless of the amperage capacity of the circuit, the Leaf’s maximum charging wattage is 6600 which equates to 27.5 amps at 240 volts. You can use a spreadsheet that I created at this link: tinyurl.com/2p8x4urm
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
Wow this is terrific! Thanks so much.
@RobertWetzel-iu5zq
Жыл бұрын
Great video. I could find nothing in the owners manual on how to charge to 80%. I am going to try the timer next time I charge. I bought my 2018 Leaf last year with 21,000 miles on it. I was worried about the battery overheating in the summer, but had no issues driving in Phoenix in 115 temps. I only charge on a level on charger in my garage and only charge a couple of times a month. Thanks for sharing, very helpful to a new Leaf owner.
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped. Keep on rocking the leaf!
@tolrem
26 күн бұрын
Very informative and well explained to a new Leaf buyer in NZ.They are selling the remaining Leafs in the country at half the original price here,so I bought the bigger battery one like yours.They are actually made in Britain.Second hand imports come in from Japan.We all drive on the left so no problem!
@ziploc2000
14 күн бұрын
Language settings easy to change?
@tolrem
13 күн бұрын
@@ziploc2000 The importers do that before sale.
@jamesmorin1081
Жыл бұрын
VERY helpful video. Just bought a Nissan Leaf and this info will save me a lot of pain. Thanks, Paul!
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
Congratulations!
@fredjaques
Жыл бұрын
Great job, Paul. I have a 2023 Leaf with the 60 kwh battery. I drove 1,550 miles so far. From another You Tube video, it seems like Leafs have software in them to disable DC charging if it got too hot . It's logical, since no reputable car company would want this scenario...
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
Yes it slows the charge rate down based on pack Temps. This keeps things safe from causing damage. 5k miles here and we still love ours! Congratulations!
@jcsusi4456
6 ай бұрын
Thinking about purchasing this vehicle for my short local commutes to work. Thanks for this review! This was so valuable!
@paulshoover
6 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@viperdrake88
10 ай бұрын
Hey Paul randomly found your video, I am also from Dayton. thinking about getting a used nissan leaf. Nice to see some local reviews!
@paulshoover
9 ай бұрын
Excellent!
@KevinMcKlveen
Жыл бұрын
Great video! Had all the charge information I was looking for. I wish Nissan made it easier to set the max charge to 80%. I might sit there and do the math for an 80% charge, but my wife and kids won't.
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
Agree it could be easier. Note there is a large buffer in the pack that should minimize any effects of charging daily to 100% Your call on whether it's warranted.
@pol1250
5 ай бұрын
There is a setting in the menu to stop charging at 80 %
@martinostlund1879
Жыл бұрын
Edit about a year later: I have just bought a 2022 Leaf, this doesn’t work at all as I wrote a year ago, I didn’t understand the problem. In the chargetimer in the 2014 Leaf you set the time you want the charging to be done, and it won’t start until it will just about finish in time. In the 2022 Leaf you set the time it will start and stop. It starts at that time and stops when at 100% or at the stop time. There is no 80% setting in the new Leaf, but I hope Nissan knows what they are doing and that there is no need for a 80% setting. According to LeafSpy 100% charge is actually about 95% real charge, I hope it is good enough. We usually drive very little a normal day, we only need to charge once a week now that winter is over, so I wait until I know we will use the car the day after and the let it charge to 100%. If you leave home about the same time every day, set your charge timer to complete the charge one or two hours later. The car will calculate when to start charging to be done on time, but you interrupt the charging when you leave home, and it never gets to 100%. You can set different times for every weekday.
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
Great hack! 👍
@rosemaryhall5811
8 ай бұрын
So much easier than having to do math! Thank you!
@rmkkkk
3 ай бұрын
Can't you set to charge to 80%?
@justinjones6810
Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Nissan didn't switch over to ccs with the refresh
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
Me also. I've been thinking of doing a CCS to Chadamo adapter. (How hard could it be????) Famous last words.
@Qrail
Жыл бұрын
@@paulshoover,as I understand it, and one thing that made me decide to not repeat buy a Leaf. CCS to ChadeMo isn’t an option. And Nissan chose to go with it (the CCS plug) on the new SUV the Airya or whatever it is called. The architecture is not compatible between the two systems. I read the answer somewhere, but I don’t have my tin foil hat on today.
@joeaverager
6 ай бұрын
@@Qrail There is now (2024) CHADEMO to CSS adapters available on the web. I don't know anything about them, just read about them today. Good thing to have along on a trip out of town.
@matthewspry4217
4 ай бұрын
An adapter is now available
@manuel0578
3 ай бұрын
I mean there’s chademo 2 which supports much more than 50 kW
@peteowens3033
Жыл бұрын
Your video has a lot of real world practical advice. Thanks. I have had my LEAF about a week now and I am loving it. It is a 2019 Nissan LEAF SL Plus. It only has 7K on it
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
Nice! Thanks
@TL-xw6fh
Жыл бұрын
You can never ever charge the Nissan Leaf battery to 100%. Charging cuts off when the voltage of each individual cell reaches 4.12V which is 90% of true capacity. In essence, just don't worry about it and this is Nissan's simple but very effective way of protecting the battery. I charge mine to approximately 80% of charge (a true 70%) and run down to around 30% using level 2 before recharging, unless I need the range. That way, the battery should last the lifetime of the vehicle.
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
Great to know. Very interesting way to preserve battery.
@JonDonaldson-h7y
Жыл бұрын
Charging outside of the Box, AKA, “Thinking outside of the box”. In order to charge less than 100% by adjusting the timer end time pass the unplug time while “Full Charge has Priority” is set. If you can physically stop (unplug) the charger at a set time. Use the timer feature “Full Charge has Priority”. Set the “Start Time” to when you want to physically stop the charging (important, “Start Time” must be set to a time, that is, before the “End Time”). Set the “End Time” to a time, after you would physically stop the charging, thus reducing the total charging time. To get a set amount of time cut out of the end of the charging cycle. Set "Full Charge has Priority", “Days” , “Timer ON”, "Start" and "End Time". When you turn off the car, check the charge time screen for the effect of the timer change, the timing of, the charge will start will become a variable depending mostly on the “State of Charge” and how much charging time you are reducing by setting the “End Time” to a time later than you unplug. After any adjustment of setting confirm the timing for the “Charging Start Time” displayed just after turning off the LEAF and the your unplug time make sense for your situation note the date and time including AM and PM. The last hour and a half of charging will have the least impact to the “State of Charge” after that the changes have a more linear effect. I have a 62KW battery and the charger charges at a bulk rate of 10 percent an hour through most of the charging capacity of the battery, and slowing down toward the end of charge. I make note of the percent “State of Charge” and charge time screen and calculate to check if it will charge about enough. Fine adjustments may be necessary for changes in the weather, summer vs winter. I cut about 3 hours off the end of charge by unplugging before going to work at a routine time and even if the LEAF ends up at the end of the day with a different SOC the charging timer will shift the Charging Start Time and keep the set Charging End Time fixed while the “Full Charge has Priority” is set.
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
Great write up. Thank you.
@martinhawrylkiewicz2025
Жыл бұрын
Really nice vid especially for those who are thinking of getting an electric car. My current lease on 2020 Nissan Murano is ending in 3 months and I am considering getting an electric car since the gas is so expensive. Problem I am having is that I rent an apt where I park my car on the street right in front of my house and the landlord doesn't want to have special plugs installed for charging any cars. That leaves me with only one option to find a charging station and wait 40 min for the car to charge....a bit annoying. But I am sure people were in the same situation and made it work.
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
I'd think twice. Going to DC fast charging negates gas savings plus you will be frustrated having to spend every couple of days charging vs. Just plugging and and waking up charged. Time and cost will be a major drag. I'd get a hybrid or just wait.
@joeaverager
6 ай бұрын
Excellent video. I will be aiming people at this video. We're planning to buy a used Leaf soon. Will be showing my wife this so she better understands the charging side of things. We too will 99% of the time be using this car as a local car. Maybe occasionally a trip from our town to the big city. Maybe x1 a year. I've done it with a borrowed Leaf so I know it'll do it.
@paulshoover
5 ай бұрын
you'll enjoy!
@MechayaAlta
Жыл бұрын
I think even when charged to 100%, the newer Leaf has about 8% not charged to protect the battery. When we were away for 5 weeks in the winter and left the car unplugged and charged to 80%. When we returned the battery was at 78%. Btw, Nissan recommends leaving car unplugged when away for the month, and Tesla recommends leaving it plugged in. Our 2022 SV plus is much better than we expected. For road trips, we chose a 2023 Subaru Outback over a Tesla Y, for much better range and better ground clearance .
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
Good points
@xxxxxxxx3476
Жыл бұрын
I can't understand why manufacturers don't want to make things easier than obviously you're finding it , to live with this new technology . Okay , eventually electric is the future of transport , whether by choice , or by necessity . But surely at this stage in the game , any hardships encountered by current owners , is only going to filter down to potential interested parties . With the result that those likely owners are naturally going to be more reluctant to take the plunge , until it's absolutely necessary . Thanks for taking the time to go into such details though . As I'm sure learning from a user of this technology , is far preferable than trying to glean info from a handbook . Oh and by the way , thanks for getting wet on our behalf . That wasn't a particularly nice night to go out and make a video for your channel . Nevertheless it was much appreciated . I hope you didn't catch a cold . Finally , six charging ports isn't really half enough , taking into account the expected rise in sales over the coming years . I think the word I'm looking for is stingy .
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
Agree, it has to be easier. Reliability is a whole different issue and one that is not really talked about. Thanks and we will keep learning together!
@taker610
2 ай бұрын
The dryer outlet being used here is a 30 amp NEMA 14-30 so it's well below the 50 amps an actual 14-50 outlet could provide. However the Leaf is limited to a rather low 6.6kW which is below what a 30 amp outlet could do and well below what a 50 amp outlet can do as well. So you're more limited by the car itself rather than how much power you have available in your home. Don't buy a Leaf unless you really understand it's limitations.
@paulshoover
2 ай бұрын
Good points
@SuperDamask
Жыл бұрын
Picked up my new leaf yesterday 😊 thanks for the video
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
Congratulations 🎊 👏 💐!
@conrado800
Жыл бұрын
19:07 you can set the limit to 80%. It’s in the “Zero Emission” menu
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
I'll check however believe they removed this setting about 5 years ago. I'll report back.
@Psalm91ArmorUp
Жыл бұрын
@@paulshoover Please do! I was hoping for this answer when I searched and found your video. This is very important to battery geeks like me. It will definitely influence my future purchase. BTW, great video! Also, batteries don’t charge at the same rate until full. Your calculated rates will likely stay mostly constant during the bulk charge which is from 20% to 80%, then slow down at higher SOC.
@paulhooverhealthcare
Жыл бұрын
@@Psalm91ArmorUp this is correct when getting above 80% and especially 90%. Glad you found it helpful. You are in good company fellow battery geek! 🤓
@ashb8572
10 ай бұрын
@paulshoover, luckily, my 2014 Leaf 24kwh has a option to select to charge to 80% in the Energy menu
@AlanWilliams-su4bs
11 ай бұрын
My 2021 Leaf has a battery charge indicator with a thermometer stylegraphic that.displays the time to reach your desired percentage charge. You need to set it for your charger rate but here in UK most home chargers are 220 volt 7kw units.
@paulshoover
11 ай бұрын
UK and US versions differ with newer leafs. No idea why they took it away.
@mikediiorio7949
6 ай бұрын
Nissan Leafs can charge at up to 6.6kw. At 240v, that is 27.5A. The current measured at the outlet will be slightly higher to cover losses in the EVSE and overhead in the car. If you have one of those EVSEs, it needs to be on a 40A circuit your Dryer is 30A -80% = Max Current useable is 24A.
@paulshoover
5 ай бұрын
correct
@bonescollector5367
Жыл бұрын
Hey Paul. My wife and I are 70 yrs old and we just purchased a 2022 Leaf SL. We were planning on doing most of our charging with the 110. Will this damage the battery? Should we have a 220volt charger installed? We don't understand a lot of the information you offered , in your video, but we are trying to learn. Thank you for sharing the information in this video.
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
No damage at all. Charge and enjoy! Congratulations
@bonescollector5367
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Paul!
@fredherfst8148
Жыл бұрын
Same here. Trickled for 2.5 years now. It may be more efficient to use level 2, but slow charging these batteries is easiest on the batteries. Yeah..I got RC experience.
@johnbaxter9446
Жыл бұрын
Incredibly helpful Paul. Thanks very much!!!
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@JeffS_EV_Talks
Жыл бұрын
My 2023 manual does say how long it takes to charge. On page CH-8, it tells you how long it should take to charge depending on battery temperature. They also show the estimated time differences, if the charger is 50kW or 100kW. It also tells you that the range in % of full capacity and distance is updated and displayed on the dashboard. On EV-23 it says range depends on many factors and that the EPA range info is on the window sticker. We all should know by now that the EPA range is for comparison only and a particular drivers range will depend on conditions and how they drive.
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
All good points
@billmiddlecamp9336
Жыл бұрын
You stated that level 3 was charging at 22kW, but the screen shot shows 45kW max rate and 22kWh after 30 minutes, which is consistent with an average rate stopping 45kW. I get ~45kW until about 75% SOC, and then it tapers off pretty quickly as it gets to higher SOC.
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@scottmanthey3549
11 ай бұрын
We have a 2023 leaf, the there is a screen that will tell you how long it will take to charge to 80% at a given rate so no need to do any math. I do wish that it would let us stop it at 80% but our dealer said not to worry about it, and charge 100% as much as we want. I've read that the car never let's you charge to a true 100% anyway so that must be why.
@paulshoover
11 ай бұрын
I've read the same thing about 100%. Regarding the time, my leaf didnt show the time when using a charging adapter with a NACS (tesla plug) charger.
@johnkauffman4105
10 ай бұрын
Awesome video, I am learning so much from the info from people like you, as I am planning to get an ev early next year, thanks again!
@paulshoover
10 ай бұрын
Glad to help
@mmm1826
7 күн бұрын
Awesome video, will you try the A2z chademo-CCS Adapter?
@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow
Ай бұрын
Great vid. Trickle charging at 110 won't hurt the battery though, right? It's just super slow?
@paulshoover
Ай бұрын
Speed has nothing to do with it. It's heat and a high state of charge. Both high put more strain and can lead go degradation.
@PeaceChanel
11 ай бұрын
Thank You for All that you are doing for our Planet Earth.... Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste 🙏🏻 😊 🌈 ✌ ☮ ❤
@voneschenbachmusic
Жыл бұрын
Very helpful video for a new leaf owner - thanks!
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@effincurmudgeon7377
5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the advice regarding charging to 80%. So much conflicting information out there. I’m into my 3rd year of ownership of my 2020 Leaf. It has been a great daily commuter. Economical as well. I intend to keep it long term. So battery life is my main concern.
@paulshoover
5 ай бұрын
You can do it! Just drive and enjoy.
@jdmack2000
7 ай бұрын
Cool Video. It is nice to know someone else in the Dayton Ohio area owns a Tesla and a Leaf. I also think Costco should get a DC Fast Charger
@paulshoover
7 ай бұрын
That would be cool!
@kelalamusic9258
7 ай бұрын
That’s all I use my Leaf for is around town. I love the car, but I wish it had a % selector like the Tesla. It sure would make charging a lot easier.
@paulshoover
7 ай бұрын
Agree
@lyimoej7198
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing the experience. Looking forward to learn more from your life with evs.
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
More to come! Thanks for the kind words.
@Jan96106
Жыл бұрын
I live in an apartment, so it would be impractical for me to get one. However, these videos are interesting. You are fortunate to live in a house with a garage, so you can purchase an EV.
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@ChrisSalinas-v5k
5 ай бұрын
Thanks this vid help me to try to get a leaf
@paulshoover
5 ай бұрын
nice - enjoy!
@barryw9473
Жыл бұрын
You are pulling, what 28 amps at 240 V? If so, that is very dangerous to draw 28 amps from a 30 amp circuit - you are asking for a fire. Do not pull more than 80% continuously on any circuit, ie 24 amps on a 30 amp circuit.
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
agree - we use our tesla wall connector 60a circuit for daily charging.
@kevingoodman8616
Жыл бұрын
@@paulshoover❤❤😂❤❤❤❤❤❤
@kevingoodman8616
Жыл бұрын
@@paulshoover❤❤
@JeffS_EV_Talks
Жыл бұрын
The Leaf Charger maximum at 240 VAC is 30 amps, wiring to handle 40 amps and a 40 amp circuit breaker allows 32 amps continuous ( 40 * 0.80 = 32 ). This means that the maximum Leaf current draw are covered.
@mattbram8993
Ай бұрын
Huh? I don’t think this is correct at all… it’s the cable size, type, insulation and length that determine resistance that creates voltage drop that leads to heat. Running 30amps on a properly installed 30amp circuit (to US code) should not catch anything on fire. It may get lukewarm but not hot enough for ignition.
@galemckiddy5120
3 ай бұрын
Very helpful! Thanks! Just bought a used 2022 Leaf and the salesman told me basically nothing this helpful about charging. I am not happy and I'm not sure I want to deal with this. I think a hybrid car would have been preferable. Maybe I am just a little overwhelmed.
@paulshoover
2 ай бұрын
They are not for everyone. Depends how and where you will drive. Trips I would suggest Tesla. Only around town there are tons of good options. Hybrid is a great step with gas savings. At the end of the day its only a car. Buy what works for you and enjoy.
@Mvendrel
Жыл бұрын
How many Amps is your dryer outlet rated? If the EVSE pulls 30amps you should have at least 40 amp rating. If 24 amps you can use a 30 amp dryer outlet, which is what ours is rated for. I had a 14-50r on a 50 amp circuit installed in our carport so we can charge our ID.4 at 40 amps. We also have a 2016 Nissan Leaf SL that’s on permanent “loan” to my 84-year-old MIL - it’s the perfect around town car for her here in Dallas and stock level 1 works for her but I’ve charged it at 30 amps at our house too. Great starter video!
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
We use out 60a tesla wall connector for everyday charging. Its around 24a for daily leaf charging +/-. Thanks for the good questions.
@Mvendrel
Жыл бұрын
@@paulshoover my concern is that you let novices know about limitations of dryer outlets for your otherwise excellent “starter” video. Do you know how many Amps the stock Nissan Level 2 draws?
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
@@Mvendrel You are correct - I've updated the description. Only use circuits at 80% of their max rating.
@Tron-Jockey
Жыл бұрын
Nice video Paul. Very helpful for new owners. I'll add a few things that I've learned over the past 6 years with my 2015 and 2019 Leafs. Nissan Leaf 62 kWh pack is actually about 56 kWh useable. Your charging rate numbers are right on track for a brand-new battery. Level 1 is 120V@ 12A = 1.44 kW is roughly 2.5%/hour (US standard voltage is 120V not 110V) Level 2 is 240V @ 27.5A = 6.60 kW is roughly 11.8%/hour Level 3 (also called HVDC) = varies according to the charging station, the SOC and the temperature of the battery pack. - Don't use HVDC charging if you can help it. IMHO the Leaf simply was not designed to use it. Without Active Thermal Management (Liquid Cooling) you risk driving the battery temperature into the red, especially if you've just pulled off the highway after an extended period of highspeed driving (>80 mph). Fast charging after extended periods of highspeed driving combined with living where ambient temperatures can exceed 100F (think Arizona) are a death sentence for the Leaf. - Don't charge to 100% and if you need to then don't leave your Leaf at 100% SOC for extended periods of time. I've learned that it's not a good idea to leave it at 100% even over a weekend. The damage may be small but it's cumulative and I suspect that even charging to 100% every evening after work and leaving it sit for 10 hours or more every night will accumulate damage after a few years. - Charging rate and temperature are very interdependent even on the low end. There is some important new data charging and battery life from recent cold weather studies performed on the Leaf. In this report they suggest that all charging below 50F should be Level 1 charging to prevent "Plating". Some very interesting reading for Leaf owners. Google "Cold-Weather-Issues-for-EVs-in-Alaska"
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
@blaumax1910 hey this is really spme great insights based on your experience. Will check out the cold weather studies you refernce. Thanks for the kind words. Make it a great one!
@elemerszasz6874
7 ай бұрын
Interesting approach to use the timer, nevertheless I was thinking about the possibility of using for example (no ad) a Xiaomi smart plug that has the function of Charge protection, meaning that if the current draw (or watts) drop below a certain value, the smart plug just switches off the power to the charger. So if we measured the (decreased) draw of current at around 78-80 percent, we could set the smart plug to do the job for us by telling it to switch off the power when the draw drops below this value.
@paulshoover
7 ай бұрын
Great idea
@alanb.4660
7 ай бұрын
I just look at the car screen that shows time to charge to 75%...then add 30 mins...you'll be really close every time...then set timer in car for night time charging or use your phone to set timer then go unplug when timer goes off.
@paulshoover
7 ай бұрын
Cool
@mdsouz
4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the informative video. I have a 2018 Leaf SL, 46Ah battery, EPA 150mi range. I'm retired and find that the Level 1 charging serves my purpose just fine for near-ranging in the SF Bay Area. The Leaf is perfect for the LibNut Bastion 😂 of the SF Bay Area, L2 and ChaDeMos up the yingyang everywhere. I have two 4L V8 vehicles to range further - a Land Rover and a Lexus sedan. Once you get away from lala land, say into the California Central Valley, charging options diminish noticeably.
@paulshoover
4 ай бұрын
Glad it helped
@davow8
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul. Great video from a practical owners perspective.
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@mathewchen6471
7 ай бұрын
Thanks for this information. I was about to buy a Leaf, but after watching the things that you mentioned, I’m sticking with an ICE vehicle because there is way too much time, patience and change of routine required on an EV. Which I have neither of. Call me a dinosaur, but I like being able to fill and go. A couple of things I see from all this is: EVs are not ready for prime time due to the small infrastructure and even if there were enough charging stations available and they are available, there is just way too much effort involved at the current state. Maybe twenty years down the road, things will get better. But from what I saw you do with the DC charging which was fast, my concern is how much damage you have done to the battery capacity. Keep doing the fast charging and I can see the battery life shortening just like phones. I saw an article in China, that BYD has gotten around this issue by swapping out battery packs with fully charged ones done in a Jiffy Lube type of way. The current method of charging is either way to slow, while preventing battery loss or too fast ie heat that will cause a much shorter battery life. Cheers
@paulshoover
7 ай бұрын
Cool
@rossmcgreg6r642
Ай бұрын
Very helpful. Thanks!
@paulshoover
Ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Jonathan_Blatter
3 күн бұрын
Hi Paul. Very informativ I drive a NISAN Liev now 8 Years. I am very happy with it. My daily commutes is 60km. For charging i use destination charcher Type 2 22kW charcher AC The has there a one pase charging of 7.5kW per hour. Like that have a work day gives me from 50% to 90% charge every 3 day. So it like you sad, i arrive at work and for my lunch break the car is reddy. I will never drive a ICE car again. My last trip was 400km for a price of 45CFR 0.3SFr/kWh. About the 80% the first generation of LEAV had the poebility the Leave e+ not. The only sad part is. That CaDeMo is being taken out on our Freeways.
@caseykittel
Жыл бұрын
I am curious about charging to 100%. all of the other cars (tesla etc) suggest charging to about 80%. the manual says nothing... I asked one of the nissan engineers and he had no idea.
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
I'd just charge to 100% the pack has a buffer that equivalent to 90% of its usable voltage. Being that nissan doesn't say I'd just charge drive and enjoy. Tesla now says 90% for daily in their settings.
@nomadchad8243
Жыл бұрын
Ive been 120v 10amp charging since new , I drive about 40Kms a day and its not a problem. It seems like they dont want you to do that but only give "time" as a negative. ??? My garage is 300 feet from my house and my FULL panel is on the other side of the house so 240v will cost me an obscene amount of $$$
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
what ever works. honestly 10a is fine for most people. Just plug it and let it juice up.
@genx156
4 ай бұрын
Wow, I thought the granny charger was slow on our 240v sockets in the UK but after seeing it run on 110v I'm not complaining 👍👍
@paulshoover
4 ай бұрын
Good to hear
@silverghini2629
Ай бұрын
Nissan’s advice is to not worry about charging to 80% as they already have headroom on the battery. So just charge to 100% and don’t worry about it. You have a warranty.
@paulshoover
Ай бұрын
Good point!
@tclareweir
Жыл бұрын
thank you so much. I just bought one but it is not even home yet. Now I am anxious! I am not sure what size our circuit breaker is on plug i was going to use to trickle charge so guess better not charge at home till we check that out. plan to install an outdoor 240 though. we don't have driveway but hoping I can just put a "Guard" thing like you use for construction and run across the sidewalk :-) for now I am praying the local level 2 chargers in my neighborhood will work. knew nothing about this chademeo vs CCS but presume that is fast charging? so now I will try to minimize that. I pray the local level 2s are all universal? looks like there are 2 ports I better make sure I do have the DC port for when/if we do travel! thank you so helpful!
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
Level 2 is fine, they are all universal. Don't overthink it. If 110 outlet it won't overload. The charger adapts, however it's very slow. Put a Nema 14/50 with a lockable cover. If worried about people tripping put a cord guard or just put 2 small orange cones. Just plug in and enjoy. You've got this!
@bratty9069
Жыл бұрын
AWESOME video, I have 2023 leaf SV+, my apartment has 6-50 outlet, do you know where I can get after market charger that will fit in to our current outlet. Watching from British Columbia Canada.❤
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
Congratulations! Check autel, they may have some options that would work.
@markstevens2937
6 ай бұрын
I just found out on the KZitem channel Dala's EV repair that a Chademo to CCS1 (for U.S.) adapter is now available.
@paulshoover
5 ай бұрын
I've learned about that. Its great news to be able to use CCS. Much easier to find.
@jamesburns2753
Жыл бұрын
I noticed that there was water in the charge port housing area. Is that normal after driving in the rain. If so, do you think that is something that Nissan should address. I just wonder if long term that could have an impact on the charge ports due to humidity. Awesome video.
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
I had charged the car while it was raining. No it's not normal. Usually dry. I also added some dielectric grease to keep things tidy.
@jamesburns2753
Жыл бұрын
@@paulshoover Thanks for the reply. Good info because the Nissan is on my next car to purchase radar for an EV.
@martinostlund1879
Жыл бұрын
We have no garage and charge our Leaf outside every night, in sun rain and snow. No problem what so ever for two years.
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
@@martinostlund1879 Ours is outside most days and we charge outside. Zero issues here either. Enjoy!
@eduardapostol6877
2 ай бұрын
You should have a setting in the central screen to limit the battery charge to 80% or...whatever.
@paulshoover
2 ай бұрын
agree!
@1635mw
5 ай бұрын
Thank you! I am going Saturday to buy a 2022 leaf. So the car should come with the charging cable that has 120v and 240v connectors? That means all I will need to do is run a 240 outlet into my garage correct?
@paulshoover
5 ай бұрын
either one. Really depends how much you drive and how much time you need to charge. 220 is the fastest and quickest. Most folks who drive 40 miles or less can get by with 110 over night
@tabletopchef
Жыл бұрын
why does nissan not recommend trickle charging for long term use?
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
I don't know specifically howver I believe it's due to the slow rate of charging. There are zero issues with slower rates of charging.
@traelee7576
Жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you for breaking this down.
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@justinschmithorst8626
Жыл бұрын
Hi I have a question, I have a 2018 Leaf S that just has the level 1 (“trickle charge”) charger, with no add-on for the 240v (normal charge) charger. Why is that? It’s just the base model so it doesn’t have the extended range (40KW instead of 60). I also don’t have a 240V outlet in my garage, so even if I didn’t have the correct hardware, I would have to install one. Also, what would happen if I continued to trickle-charge it long term?
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
No ill effects from trickle charging long term except extra time to charge. If the recharge range works for you. Roll with it.
@GrotrianSeiler
Жыл бұрын
Really excellent video. Very informative. Good idea
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@johnphung7975
Жыл бұрын
Hi what is your Nissan Leaf model it is sv or sv plus? And I wonder what is the max charge rate for sv model?
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
SV plus. Depends on the SOC what the battery will take. Up too 100 KW at a low SOC down to virtually nothing.
@nadinekohl
Жыл бұрын
Just to confirm, you read in the manual that 15 amp should not be day to day charge you use?
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
they state its only to be used in the event that extra range is needed. They just highlight that it takes a while: Here is what the manual says: Trickle charge Trickle charging is not recommended for regular use because it takes more time than normal charging. Trickle charge can be used when it is necessary to perform an emergency charge at a destination such as a friend’s house. Trickle charge uses the EVSE (Electric Vehicle Supply Equipment) provided with the vehicle or an SAE J1772 compliant cord set to connect the vehicle to an AC 110-120 volt, 15A dedicated outlet. The outlet should be protected by a circuit breaker to avoid overloading the circuit or other electrical hazard.
@nadinekohl
Жыл бұрын
@@paulshoover thanks for sharing! I’ve been deciding on if the leaf is best for me for about a year now and your videos are very helpful.
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
You can use it daily if you want. It will just take a while. Make sure it's a dedicated circuit. A 20a would be better because it provides more buffer for long-sustained charging.
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
@@nadinekohl you bet!
@seanpeacock5595
Жыл бұрын
How long is that Level 1 charge cord? I don’t have a garage, which has been holding me back for an EV but that cord may get from my house to my parking spot!
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
24 feet per manual
@seanpeacock5595
Жыл бұрын
@@paulshoover wow, that’s promising.❤️ Now, is an just stop people from stealing them.🙄
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
@@seanpeacock5595 lol, anything is possible these days. They do make locks on receptacles which would decrease the probability of them walking off.
@seanpeacock5595
Жыл бұрын
@@paulshoover no, they bring large wire cutters and leave the plugs in place. They just want the copper. 😡 in the news here more than you would think. At least they’re not stealing the catalytic converters
@theinlwin385
Жыл бұрын
Its make me i am in real world.Great Thanks.
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
Most welcome 😊
@fredherfst8148
Жыл бұрын
I get about 3.1 % per hour of trickle. No problem.
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
What size battery do you have. That would impact % per hour. Same amount of electricity into a smaller or larger cell would yield different percentages.
@fredherfst8148
5 ай бұрын
I use trickle and 3.1 per hour. It's a 40k battery
@mollyboland4704
2 ай бұрын
Cannot thank you enough for this video
@paulshoover
2 ай бұрын
Excellent - So glad it was helpful.
@khrisfranco9776
5 ай бұрын
I only get 160 miles on a full charge is that the normal and it drains fast
@paulshoover
5 ай бұрын
depends on temps, driving speed, battery pack size. Hot or very cold, high speeds all drain super faster.
@mikediiorio7949
7 ай бұрын
could you set the amp current on the leaf
@paulshoover
7 ай бұрын
Nope not able too.
@johnnya9150
Ай бұрын
Good content
@paulshoover
Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@ianmarshall9958
9 ай бұрын
Great video. Thank you for the info!
@paulshoover
9 ай бұрын
You got it
@srimanthn7752
Жыл бұрын
Awesome explanation… Thanks a ton!
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
You are welcome.
@nader50352
9 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing
@paulshoover
9 ай бұрын
My pleasure
@Azuriak3
Жыл бұрын
Why do all these tests to determine times ti charge when there is a menu on the main dash that shows time left to charge at diferente charging speeds…
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
Mine was/is not showing charging times. 😒
@bawanqaradaghi4896
Жыл бұрын
Very helpful sir
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
Thanks and welcome
@Supernaut2000
4 ай бұрын
Meh, my 2013 Leaf had the ability to stop charging at 80%. My 2017 doesn’t so I charge it to 100% on 110V when it needs it. I’m down 2 bars out of 12 for capacity with 45k miles.
@paulshoover
4 ай бұрын
Good to know
@stephenbrickwood1602
3 ай бұрын
Most vehicles are parked 23hrs every day. 😮😊😊😊
@paulshoover
2 ай бұрын
True!
@stephenbrickwood1602
2 ай бұрын
@paulshoover I say that just to point out that the EVs could be the major store of daily rooftop solar PV electricity. And the major supplier of electricity when the sun shine stops each day. Grid electricity will not be needed when the sun shines ✨️ 💛
@barryw9473
Жыл бұрын
Nissan is not known for high quality cells in early Leaf, and no 80% charge limit, so, of course, there are lots of highly degraded battery packs. Don’t know about 2023 cell quality. Good luck!
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
Time will tell.
@martinostlund1879
Жыл бұрын
The early Leafs, ours is a 2014, has a setting for 80% charging.
@barryw9473
Жыл бұрын
@@martinostlund1879 ok but the vast majority of cars do not. It makes no sense.
@astronaut_69
Жыл бұрын
They should come up with a wireless platform charging station that way you won't be carrying all those heavy cables with you every damn time you need to recharge your car. Well, I think they do provide the charging cable at the stations but I what I meant to say was that it'd better if they make it wireless and faster, drop the prices. It's not like you'll live forever so why you wanna bring the prices up if you won't even get to live 100 years. I don't see no point. Let's help us out each other instead of raising the prices. Kinda like phones. We got the technology, let's use it for good and bring down the price, too !
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
Some good points. Traveling you use travel/quick chargers. Taking a charger allows you to recharge at much lower rates.
@izzyizzi
11 ай бұрын
@paulshoover Where do you plug-in while traveling?
@vincewhite5087
11 ай бұрын
The Teslas with LF batts seem now to not hurt 100 %.
@paulshoover
11 ай бұрын
Correct, while less dense they are a good option. 100% daily range is solid. Cold and DC fast charging are where they don't measure up to li ion. Slower and impacted by Temps more. We have a lfp tesla and love it.
@akitmano
Жыл бұрын
Good job 👍
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@vincewhite5087
11 ай бұрын
I hate chasing to go gas up. Line ups & costs.
@paulshoover
11 ай бұрын
Agree
@johnphung7975
Жыл бұрын
Hi can I use oven outlet to charge the leaf?
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
Yes if it's a nema 14/50 outlet.
@johnphung7975
Жыл бұрын
@@paulshooverhi my Nissan leaf stop premature and the fault light flashing, do you know why
@paulhooverhealthcare
Жыл бұрын
@@johnphung7975 maybe your outlet is not grounded. Have a electrician check things out. It could be a number of things. Sorry I'm not much help.
@pol1250
5 ай бұрын
there is a setting in the menu to stop charging at 80 %
@paulshoover
5 ай бұрын
not in the US cars.
@robjohnson8662
Жыл бұрын
I looked at nissan ariya today single motor 87kwh ONLY 216 miles for a 45k car. BS. Nissan really does want to go out of business. The Leaf is still the best value in EV's for a decent price. The newer Bolt with the better battery is also good value, especially since GM has gone stupid and targeting morons with more money than brains with junk such as the hummer and silverado. Apparently GM has not been watching Ford with their boat anchor the Lighting. I have a high school buddy lives in Pittsburgh and he and his wife bought a bolt in cleveland and the dealer practically gave it away, as said dealer couldn''t sell the bolt. With state/fed tax rebates and the dealer just wanting to get rid of his stock of bolts they walked away with 17,500 out the door plus tax/tags/freight. The dealer was so anxious to dump his stock of bolts they gave both the state/fed credit at the sales point.
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
Wow, congrats. Smoking deal on the bolt.
@techontesla5284
Жыл бұрын
Good video
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@chicherich
Жыл бұрын
Nissan manual tldr: Got problem? Go to the dealer.
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
Truth
@CandycaneBeyond
Жыл бұрын
The manufacturer has a buffer and you can never overcharge a battery
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
Then why do all lithium ion say to not charge to 100%?
@CandycaneBeyond
Жыл бұрын
@@paulshoover kzitem.info/news/bejne/mq-By2Z6hqCKZIY Go to 4:15 timestamp
@robjohnson8662
Жыл бұрын
If Nissan would get their heads out of their ass and change the charger to CCS and install both thermal management and larger on board charge and kill the 40 kwh version and make the 62kwh standard and keep the car at sub 30k they would own the ev market as far as reasonably practical ev's and price.
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
Agree
@usaverageguy
Жыл бұрын
The Leaf is a fine car for local driving. I have a 2012 Leaf with a 24 KWH battery. It has never been DC fast charged. And it gets me to the store or work. Adding liquid cooling and reconfiguring the charging system will increase the price. Then no one would buy it.
@Jimster481
10 ай бұрын
31c per KW? Insane price!
@paulshoover
10 ай бұрын
Yep, charge at home
@Jimster481
10 ай бұрын
@@paulshoover yes definitely, I'm looking at getting one of these and only plan to charge at home or maybe at a resort
@paulshoover
10 ай бұрын
@Jimster481 the leaf is a around town car. If dc fast charging/ road tripping I'd get a different car. Slow fast charging makes it a no go...
@Jimster481
10 ай бұрын
@@paulshoover I've got 6 gas cars already so I don't need it for road tripping. Just for a solar project and some town to town drives...
@paulshoover
10 ай бұрын
@@Jimster481 it will be perfect.
@sunghaolin6326
Жыл бұрын
Saw you get an tesla. You can buy an Tesla to J1772 adapter and share the charging port 😂
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
That's what I use for daily charging. ;)
@hdtravel1
10 ай бұрын
You made an ERROR - when you went to plug the charger into the car you said it was a NEMA 14-50 plug going into the car - IT IS A J-1772 plug - you might want to correct your video
@paulshoover
10 ай бұрын
👍
@michaelfuller34
Жыл бұрын
Lol, my kids learned on an automatic and can’t drive a standard, your kid might learn e-pedal😮
@paulshoover
Жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing. Crazy how things change in a short period of time. My first car was a 3 speed, toyota corolla, only PS/PB. Everything else was manual.
@vincepedago
Жыл бұрын
Ok. So the solution is not to change from petrol vehicules to electric vehicules but stop using and buying personal vehicules. Take public transports and develop them. As we all know we will not do this, we should at least stop producing big vehicules like SUV with big batteries over 80 kwh like tesla model X. More than 500 hp, how can someone thing this is good for the environnement...
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