First of all, how great was the Mandalorian season 1? So locking tuners, yes or no? Where I bought mine: amzn.to/2QvnGxM (affiliate link) My Installation videos: kzitem.info/news/bejne/yGt8va6wp2urpX4 kzitem.info/news/bejne/oqeH2HakkIZlmHY Timestamps: Personal Experience: 0:21 What Locking Tuners Won't Do: 1:50 What Locking Tuners Will Do: 3:03 Wrap Up: 4:13
@riverman6655
3 жыл бұрын
I love the Mandalorian series so far...the episodes are getting shorter though..I'm caught up in season 2
@ColinStuart
2 жыл бұрын
I've played, professionally, for 55 years, and now in later years, I've had 5 strokes. I've had to teach my wife to change my strings, but that doesn't always work out as I would care for. I have, (in my career), been the guitar tech for Earth, Wind & Faire, so string changing was always second nature! Although the strokes taught me that there were many things that came second nature to me, are now things of the past! For one, I have lost the dexterity used in changing my own strings. So I am looking forward to purchasing a set of locking tuners, to free me up to be able to do one of those small things that were lost to me.
@hannahnelsonmusic
4 жыл бұрын
I think he likes telecasters
@artamussumatra6286
4 жыл бұрын
The tuning stability is much more noticeable on a Strat with a floating trem, because there’s a lot less friction on the string without the wraps loosening, and re tightening when you use the bar. On a hard tail, it’s still useful if you do a lot of heavy bending, I have these on my Strat, and Tele, and I really like them.
@landonbailey
4 жыл бұрын
cool thanks for the feedback!
@blkjakk
4 жыл бұрын
True. I do extreme bends on all of my guitars including the hard tailed guitars.
@moestock1058
4 жыл бұрын
For sure helps more with a trem. Also shouldn't have to "stretch" new strings as much for stable tuning with hard tail or trem.
@ChristosNikolis
2 жыл бұрын
@@landonbailey and everyone - Many thanks for saving me 150 quid ;D its a good thing, but it can wait.
@dan.murray
4 жыл бұрын
Tele's are rock solid for tuning most of the time. I have them for the quick string changes.
@landonbailey
4 жыл бұрын
👍🎸😁
@blkjakk
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, locking tuners make string changes SUPER quick. If your upgrading from 12:1 tuners to 19:1 locking tuners, you’re also getting greater tuning stability because there’s no string slip at the tuner. That said, there are many bad and misinformational videos on KZitem about how to string up locking tuners. The correct way is to point the tuner string hole at the area of the nut that that particular string will be exiting the nut and entering the tuner through. After inserting the string, tighten the locking tuner wheel down all the way and when you tune it up to pitch, you will have no more than a half to 2/3 of a turn around the string post. This is the correct way to string up with locking tuners. Any more than 1/2 turn to 2/3 turn of a locking tuner to get the string to pitch is going to put you back in the same problems you have with traditional Tuners which is string slippage from slack in the string. I love locking tuners so much that I put them on almost every guitar I have. There are many great locking tuners out there and there are many crappy locking tuners out there. Some of my favorite locking tuners are: 1. Fender (Schaller) locking tuners 2. Planet Waves auto trim locking tuners 3. Tone Ninja locking tuners 4. Gotoh MGT series locking tuners 5. Kiesel locking tuners. 6. Graph Tech Ratio locking tuners (a direct, drop in replacement for Kiesel & Charvel Pro Mod guitars). *Grover locking tuners & Hipshot locking tuners are good but they are not as good as the first brands I mentioned. That’s my opinion.
@landonbailey
4 жыл бұрын
hey appreciate all the info! thanks 👍🎸😁
@fendertremolo9793
4 жыл бұрын
What about Graph Tech and Hipshot? And aren't planet waves associated with D'Adarrio?
@blkjakk
4 жыл бұрын
Fender Tremolo I have recently gotten 2 sets of the Graph Tech Ratio locking tuners for 2 of my Charvels. They’re a direct drop in replacement for the Charvel tuners. No drilling. I need to add them to the list above. They work great and are built like a tank-tough. Yes, D’Addario makes the Planet Waves Brand. I have had Hipshot locking tuners but they were not my favorites.
@peterallen1041
4 жыл бұрын
I use Hipshot, you make an excellent point about how tuning stability is improved if you are going from 15:1 to 18 or 19. I love the ability to change strings quickly and from my experience tuning stability (if your nut is cut well) is better with higher ratio tuners locking or not.
@justinpaquette224
4 жыл бұрын
@@blkjakk Were the hipshots you used closed or open backs? Because the open backs are 18:1, but the closed backs are only 15:1
@JakeBisognin
4 жыл бұрын
I've got a few custom built guitars, all of them have locking tuners. I don't really think they're an upgrade to other tuners in terms of tuning stability, but I'd always opt for a locking tuner over a standard if I'm starting from scratch; purely for ease of string changes. I usually tour with one guitar, so if I break a string onstage, they allow me to replace the string within that song and get on with the show. There may be some benefit to having no winds on the post, reducing stretching, but I haven't really noticed a difference.
@saadshah7857
3 жыл бұрын
I think the confusion for most people new to locking tuners comes from the name "locking". These tuners aren't locking in the sense a floating trem has a locking nut. These are just "quick string change" tuners. They make string changes easier and faster. The tuning pegs aren't locked in place, so you still tune your guitar the normal way. These are useful for folks that change strings very often or pros who change strings daily etc.
@ChristosNikolis
2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for the clarification. You and Landon just saved me some money. =)
@peterbatten596
9 ай бұрын
As someone who plays pretty much only a 6 string and 9 string. A 9 string I definitely need locking tuners. I’m not trying to spend a half hour on tuning new strings. The thing people need to know most importantly when it comes to playing and tuning stability with them is know your tuning and the right gauge (that’s preference, I try to get away with the thinnest string as I can for what I’m aiming for so the tone is clear and don’t crank the tuners hard. If you do, they will start to cut into the core of the string resulting in either a full string break or the tuning stability will stay bad. And always make sure they are slotted into both the bridge and nut with a nice amount of tension before locking and tuning. I also find making sure the peg holes are directly facing the nut before hand the most efficient.
@barbmelle3136
4 жыл бұрын
From Leo: Locking tuners greatly reduce string stretch settling time. They don't lock the gears, just the strings. If you learn to string your guitar with the 1/2 turn and hook method like Martin uses, you also don't have the extended string stretch time and they are quick to change. I have a couple guitars with lockers, but I am not changing any more. The Ratio tuners are nice due to the gear ratio, especially on the low E and the G. Been playing guitar and having fun for a long time.
@landonbailey
4 жыл бұрын
good info thanks Leo!
@kenstrever6531
2 жыл бұрын
Locking tuners aren't SUPPOSED to give you tuning stability. They just make it easier to install your strings by locking them in, instead of having to wrap them through a standard tuner peg hole. You get more stability by getting the higher ratio. Example: most tuners are 14:1 or 15:1. Better ones are 18:1.
@landonbailey
2 жыл бұрын
it's a common misunderstanding
@INVERTEDBUKAKI
4 жыл бұрын
I second this notion having hipshot locking tuners, the stock fender tuners are not any different for stability. just easier string changes
@separator94
2 жыл бұрын
They do help but are not intended to be a cure-all as far as tuning stability goes. There are 4 factors you need to address and machine heads are just 1. I noticed a decent difference when playing heavy but that should reflect to any playing style to some degree. All play styles are moving the strings around. I mean, the very plucking of a string (no matter how hard) is moving and bending the string to some extent. Also, you'll notice it more on guitars with trem systems, or if you're someone who's constantly bending strings. You need to consider more than tuners if you want a significant increase in tuning stability. 1. Tuners (Quality locking machine heads) 2. Nut (Quality, lubrication and set-up) 3. Bridge (Quality and set-up) 4. Strings (Try a few different types and gauges) (Try *D'Addario NYXL Nickel Wound Electric* strings. They're very high quality and last, as well as stay in tune, much longer than other strings. They also sound and feel very good.) If you hone in all of those, you're guitar will have great tuning stability. If it doesn't, there may be an underlying issue with the instrument. A lot of the time a professional set-up is your best bet. Keep in mind, no matter how good a guitar is you should still tune it each time you go to play it. Strings themselves stretch over time. It's just an unavoidable thing that comes with stringed instruments.
@landonbailey
2 жыл бұрын
🎸👍
@TheTactical6string
3 жыл бұрын
seems like it just makes it easier to change strings.
@cliveclive54
4 жыл бұрын
You nailed it Landon,quick string change,period!Happy new year sunshine \m/
@landonbailey
4 жыл бұрын
hey Happy new year!
@johnwelch557
4 жыл бұрын
Yes sir! If current tuners are decent, i.e. no shaft play and snuggly mounted, they will hold tune as well as any "upgrade". Always stretch (3+ times) the strings at installation and once each time you play. It's both a metallurgical thing and a cold/warm guitar thing. Also stretching tightens the tree wraps and the ball wraps. Some strings, depending on metallurgy and mass of each string, tighten/relax more with a few degrees temperture deviation. (This assumes the nut is lubed and the bridge/string movement is free). I personally like vintage split shafts to clean up the cut end. THANKS!
@landonbailey
4 жыл бұрын
vintage split are my fav too!
@charlesdeal771
4 жыл бұрын
I simply like the convenience. The Wilkinson EZ post tuners are a little janky but you can use them as sorta staggered tuners on tilted headstocks. they have a lower and higher hole.
@censored7881
Жыл бұрын
I insist on locking tuners, but it's not because of tuning stability. It's simply because I don't like the over/under/turn-then-turn-some-more rigmarole involved with regular tuners. I like being able to stick the string through the tuner, then tighten down the locknut, and cut off the excess string. It's just easier. One huge caveat is that you have to avoid going overboard when you tighten the locknut, or it _will_ break the string within the tuner.
@tomdameek
4 жыл бұрын
My experience with locking tuners is different in that I was replacing budget guitar tuners so it definitely made a great difference in holding tune. I used Vanson tuners on the three I replaced. Stock fender tuners would already be excellent.
@landonbailey
4 жыл бұрын
ya that would definitely be a great upgrade
@GetUnwoke
2 жыл бұрын
so basically the only perk to spending ~$50-60 is for easier string changing when the original way isn't all that hard to begin with?
@landonbailey
2 жыл бұрын
it would also be an upgrade over cheap tuners, it that's what you were replacing. but ya a swap of standard Fender tuners to their locking models, pretty much just the ease of string change
@caseylee12
4 жыл бұрын
I upgraded my tuners in my Fender Pro strat, just to make it easier for changing strings. 3 things that CAN help with tuning stability are 1) bone or self-lubricating nut, 2)rolling string tree, and 3) rolling bridge.
@patrickbuzzo1970
5 күн бұрын
Casey Lee , my instrument is 11 years old , i have changed strings many times , i think i should replace the original plastic nut with a graphite or graftek nut . What is your opinion about ? I use bronze strings , because i have an acoustic bouzouki. Thanx a lot for your kind reply, Patrick from Italy
@caseylee12
5 күн бұрын
@@patrickbuzzo1970 graghtek Tusq nut is a great upgrade to any stringed instrument.
@patrickbuzzo1970
5 күн бұрын
@@caseylee12 Thank you very much for your kind reply. My best regards. Patrick
@therangersinger
4 жыл бұрын
A properly cut nut and stretching strings = great tuning stability. Can't control mother nature and rapid humidity changes affecting neck movement.
@landonbailey
4 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@ThePaddedPedalroom
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Landon, You are right sir, Locking tuners = fast and easy string change. Tuning stability i find is more a combination of things such as the nut, sadles, bridge and to a certain extent the keys. Thanks for another great video!
@landonbailey
4 жыл бұрын
cheers!
@shawnyoung8272
Жыл бұрын
agree
@waitin4winter
3 жыл бұрын
Whether your guitar has a stoptail/hardtail is kind of a big stipulation, wouldn't you say? My tele doesn't have locking tuners and don't need them, rock solid tuning stability. My strat is a different story and the locking tuners made a big difference in tuning stability.
@ZenGarage
3 жыл бұрын
In my experience the Graph Tech Ratio tuners I've installed make changing strings a lot easier and faster. They also make everyday tuning (both fine tuning and tuning from standard E to D which I do a lot) more predictable as turning the tuning heads is super consistent between strings (thus faster and easier). You're also negating the fact that a lot of guitarists out there (most of them beginners, some of them not!) still have issues with installing strings correctly in the first place which can lead to tuning instability or worse, strings breaking.
@gringogreen4719
3 жыл бұрын
I see intermediate players having tuning issues. Basically those are because they are lazy and arrogant. They also think they sound better than they do and even in their playing, cut corners.😐
@davidbranch397
4 жыл бұрын
I use em on 3 strats and 2 teles. With a trem, you line up holes but load string from far side to give a cam lock helper. Otherwise using trem straight loaded, the strings are far more prone to break at the lockers pinch. So i simply load all from back side of pegs now and havent broken one string since. Rock on!
@landonbailey
4 жыл бұрын
good tips thanks!
@ApricotHurlforth
2 жыл бұрын
Landon - you have misunderstood the definition of locking tuners: They lock they string, not the tune. The strings expand and contract with temperature, the neck & body move with temperature and humidity (unless carbon fibre etc. - even then), so the tune will change. No tuners can "lock" in the tune. There is no static tune instrument - maybe synths? In the UK we call them "machine heads" - that wordage may have helped you to avoid expectations that could not be met: "Locking Machine Heads".
@landonbailey
2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely misunderstood, and I think many people do. Also Floyd Rose would like a word! 😝👍
@guitarste
3 жыл бұрын
I learned something tonight. People believed (me included) that locking tuners are intended for tuning stability like a locking nut but they are *not* They are only useful for quicker string changing eliminating the need for winding round the posts
@michaelwoods9005
3 жыл бұрын
Which also helps tuning stability👍
@mike1967sam
4 жыл бұрын
Tuning stability is decided essentially by how well the nut is cut, the quality of the nut. Locking tuners just make changing strings faster be it a Strat, a Tele or whichever guitar you have.
@DenisMorissetteJFK
2 жыл бұрын
I think my nut is made of plastic. A bone nut would bring more stability?
@captaincrankysdock9730
9 ай бұрын
Well, I'm a 12 string junkie, and changing strings with standard tuning keys is an utter nightmare. Even using a power winder, (which never seem to come with an adapter for mini keys), the winds always seem to be looping all over. and tangling with the strings already in place. So, all my twelves are getting lockers, ASAP.
@RodNesser
4 жыл бұрын
I have a 2012 MIM Cabronita with standard tuners... swapped for the Fender Lockers... as you said it definitely makes a difference when changing strings (the main feature that interested me as I'm going to start rehearsing and gigging again now that the new year's stuff it's done with... plus I got a gift voucher lol) I must say I did notice it is easier to tune (quicker?) than with the original set... with the standards I always tuned up to pitch, with these locking tuners I can go up or down and with the 18:1 ratio I only need to do very small tweaks to get it spot on... but, like you said, it's all subjective... it applies to this particular guitar with this set of strings (XL's 10-46) Good vid anyways... cheers.
@presentelaw
4 жыл бұрын
I am upgrading my Fender Deluxe that came with Made in Germany Fender Gold Tuners (non-locking). Question, why are these made in Taiwan (Ping) Fender tuners so expensive? Silly question I know, but I'm trying to justify the price when comparable brands could be significantly cheaper. Pay a little more and you get a Schaller. Are these Fender branded locking tuners really worth the price? I personally prefer to keep everything "Fender" but the price is making me ask that question. Thanks.
@landonbailey
4 жыл бұрын
Ya sorry, I don’t have any insight into retail pricings
@jerbear1601
2 жыл бұрын
I noticed when using locking tuners that if you don't put wraps then tuning down is a problem. You just don't have enough string to release to go down to dropped D etc.
@landonbailey
2 жыл бұрын
good point!
@kostaspapadopoulos7577
9 ай бұрын
I will have to agree. My experience on a fender stratocaster that was upgraded with fender locking tuners is that i didn't had significant raise in tuning stability. The main advantage is hugely in the ease of changing strings. I believe that tuning stability requires a correctly made nut for the string gage used, alongside with a bridge which had a good setup . Happy new year to all!
@SithTracy
4 жыл бұрын
The bonus is quick string changes. In a playing session with a Strat, the locking tuners are helpful in my opinion over the stock tuners, but I, too, live in a place with fluctuating weather. Our winters in WI can be cold and then a 20 degree swing the next day. That affects my tuning, and on my bass guitar, affects my truss rod (I attribute that the the beefier strings and the longer neck). Building a tele now (and enjoyed your video on your recent build) and putting on Hipshot locking tuners.
@landonbailey
4 жыл бұрын
nice! have fun with the build. don't rush it
@NextGenGuitars
4 жыл бұрын
Great video of your experiences! You are correct. Locking tuners only make string changes quicker/easier and allow the strings to stretch faster. In general, the tuners are the last place to look for tuning stability issues, despite what manufacturers and sales reps will say to make a sale. With the quality of manufacturing these days, even with cheap/budget tuners, you'd actually have to really try to make a bad tuner. Tuning stability issues come from other things. The obvious being un-stretched or poor quality strings, poor technique (playing/fretting WAY too hard), a poor quality neck, or a poor quality trem (particularly the quality of the pivot points). If all those are in check and tuning stability is still a problem, you'd want to first look at the string trees and nut. That list covers 99% of tuning stability issues. Tuners can fail/slip, but it is pretty rare by comparison.
@landonbailey
4 жыл бұрын
hey guys! thanks for the feedback and info. I bought my Celestion Neo Creamback - 60W and Celestion V-Type from your shop! you can see them here: kzitem.info/news/bejne/rJpumaqYg3igqoo take care!
@NextGenGuitars
4 жыл бұрын
@@landonbailey Sweet! Thanks!
@mailvilla
2 жыл бұрын
06/12/2022: Locking tuners are not made for locking strings like a Floyd rose system. They are made for just fast-changing of strings with no wrapping of the sting on the post. Therefore, you turn the tuning keys and tune your guitar just like the original non-locking tuners. I had the Fender brand of locking tuners and I loved them, except for one problem, which was user error. Yup, my fault, nothing wrong with the tuners. I thought I had to tighten them very tight, and I broke the tuner. I tried to get parts to repair it, but that quest never did work out, and no one sold just one tuner. Only full sets of six were for sale. So, do not over-tighten them, because they break very easily. Just a light snug turn is needed. I purchased a Guild acoustic guitar, and I am thinking of putting Hipshot Locking Tuners on it. Hopefully, the 18-1 ratio will help to fine-tune the strings. And again, locking tuners make it fast and easy to change strings.
@saddestchord7622
4 жыл бұрын
I have Grovers and Hipshots on strats, and they do help. They really help with new strings, particularly if you broke one on stage and were in a hurry to change it and don't have time or enough light to do the wrap properly.
@nathanielavery9210
9 ай бұрын
Do you stretch the strings at all? Or does that just happen over time naturally? Tuning UP for instance? I have a set, but haven't installed them yet
@landonbailey
9 ай бұрын
I always stretch my strings after installing them
@mike1967sam
4 жыл бұрын
Hey dude, for me locking tuners are like expensive cables from brands that tell you you can actually hear a diff in your tone - NO you can't, unless you're a dog.. Out of my 10 electric guitars 7 have locking tuners and only for one reason - It makes it easy to swap strings. That's it! I usually buy Klotz La Grange cables or Dimarzio cables which are about twice the price of your normal Fender cable not because i get a super quality tone but cuz they last. You can twist 'em, tie 'em, step on 'em and you have no issues. 10 years ago I used to buy Fender cables and after 3 to 6 months the cable jack would stop working. So locking tuners are like expensive cables, they are practical. That's my 2 cents. Mike.
@landonbailey
4 жыл бұрын
👍🎸
@ll1881ll
3 жыл бұрын
If you own ten guitars it indicates that you are a lousy player who is obsessed with gear vs hard work.
@tims001
3 жыл бұрын
@@ll1881ll thats not nice to say
@Milos-Stankovic
6 ай бұрын
According to bad logic Mark Knopfler must be lousy player because he have much more guitars in his collection.
@chrisgrabowski2678
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. You are saving me some money and I'm sure many others. I appreciate your honesty. That is refreshing and very reassuring. Now, I won't consider making the change unless I'm back in a situation where I'm changing strings often.
@landonbailey
4 жыл бұрын
no problem!
@josephramosreyes8050
3 жыл бұрын
it's great for quick string changing. fast string release and mounting. but for keeping in tune, its just like normal tuners just without the string slip and looping.
@neurocat6453
3 жыл бұрын
I've installed Fender Locking tuners on my MIM strat and now I have a problem with G string ringing above the nut. String break angle is not enough, though G string tuner is staggered... And I don't want to install second string tree and add point of friction. Is there a proper way to fix it without any ugly damping foams etc. ?
@RichTones
4 жыл бұрын
Good info Lando!🎸I just installed Fender locking in my Squire Strat and they are way better quality than the stock Squire machines. String changes are a breeze. I think with some moderate string bends or a harder player will always need to tune up periodically. That’s just physics of metal strings stretching. Give your strings a few stretches after changing and it may help!
@landonbailey
4 жыл бұрын
for sure an upgrade for Squire tuners
@ll1881ll
3 жыл бұрын
Locking plus tuners plus a graphite nut with hold up to deep bends no problem
@sparkyguitar0058
8 ай бұрын
I put locking tuners on my L Paul because I needed to replace a slipping G tuner. Went with locking Kluson's cause the price difference was close enough and its 19 ~1 compared to 16~1 for regular tuners. The locking with its better ratio will need smaller adjustments to bring in tune. And only $30 difference over buying regular tuners. Ease of string changes is another great part. My Strat came from the factory with locking tuners and makes string changes so fast and easy. So I think these are a great change to a working tool of a guitar.
@Michael-pm1tq
4 жыл бұрын
I have a Strat with a floating tremelo and it's rock solid after a proper setup with a new nut and string tree. In all honesty I just bought the locking tuners as the last thing to 'mod' on my guitar. Any improvement is marginal gain at best, because it already played great. Fast string changes are a big plus.
@TheToneLounge
4 жыл бұрын
I put Hipshot locking tuners on my LP junior and they work well. As you stated, it does not lock the string and keep it in tune forever. The strings do move and get out of tune, just less so than a poorly installed string on the string post.
@landonbailey
4 жыл бұрын
they just aren't 'locked' like you would think right?
@TheToneLounge
4 жыл бұрын
Lando27Music exactly. Maybe it is our understanding of what they mean by “locking”, or their use of the word is misleading.
@DeeTee79
Жыл бұрын
Well now, as a fellow Canadian, I’m kind of on the fence about wether to get the locking tuners for my Gilmour Strat or the obsidian blender. I do agree about the locking tuners are the end all of problems. It’s not final w/ locking tuners. Small adjust,ents still have to be made. Decisions, decisions.
@delatronics3257
2 жыл бұрын
I am buying new tuners for my PRS SE at present, there is a PRS video showing how to loop the string with few turns on non locking tuners. Locking tuners can be considerably heavier and can cause the neck to be unbalanced when hanging from the strap, that with the fact that locking tuners cost 50% more and I don't currently gig, means that I am opting for some nice Gotoh SG381 non locking tuners.
@landonbailey
2 жыл бұрын
🎸👍
@veerchasm1
2 жыл бұрын
String changes are awesome with these
@jakefine7234
Жыл бұрын
I used locking tuners on my custom bigsby telecaster project and they hold really well.
@ronpopeil7
4 жыл бұрын
I have a few guitars that came stock with locking tuners, Grovers on a Yamaha, and 2 schecters. My experience is exactly the same as yours. Faster string changes - Similar tuning stability. Maybe one thing it could possibly help with tuning is that with less winds maybe it takes less time after a string change to settle in and require less stretching. Sometimes the wraps can be a tiny bit loose and need to tighten up over time, if that makes sense.
@landonbailey
4 жыл бұрын
I don't do any wraps. I've tried both ways and saw no difference
@maekong2010
2 жыл бұрын
I think locking tuners get lumped together with locking nuts in many people's minds. But it's sort of a misnomer. The strings lock in the machine heads, but the stability of the machine heads is not affected. I imagine if you were to buy crappy locking tuners (I've not seen any) there would be no point. That being said, locking tuners changed my life. I spend so much more time rubbing out the fretboard and staying on top of the fret surfaces than I ever did, since discovering Grovers, in my case. The reason I don't own many guitars (I have 3 that are playable - meaning properly cared for and ready to go), is that invariably I would become overwhelmed and not care for any of them properly. And here's the thing I never realized before. Playing an uncared-for fretboard, is akin to having what would perhaps be the best sex of your life, but with zero lubricant. There are no plek machines in my locale, so I put the finishing touches on my fretboard and resurfaced (not polished) the frets myself, over time, zeroing in on getting the closest action humanly possible. Now that I play NYXLs, I change the strings every couple of weeks rather than every few days, and I'm having the best shred-adjacent sex of my life. I urge people to take this seriously. It's the difference between a buttery/velvety feel to your expression that compels you to play every available moment and, well, aversive sex. I mean, that's how shit falls out of memory. I've been playing for about 55 years, give or take. But nothing compares to the playing experience I've had since locking tuners made this type of dedication to my craft possible. No one likes string changes and I despised them. And my playing showed it. There's no way grinding skin cells into your fretboard is good for either you or the fretboard. Now the only inconvenience in addressing stuff is when the half-dozen sets of strings dwindle to one or two. I hate going out into the cruel world. There should be a StringFlix (like Netflix) that automatically sends strings like they used to do with DVDs. But I digress. Life isn't really all that difficult. I had some time to kill before bed and I am a Landon supporter and an evangelist for locking tuners. But you will still have to engage the pegs, especially if you have a Les Paul. If you have quality machine heads and your intonation's dialed in, it's truly worth it. That all being said, Landon, love your channel. Keeps us entertained over here in SE Asia. Cheers/Best of luck. I've no idea what Canadians say when they sign off. And I used to live there. So it goes.
@nicholastname
4 жыл бұрын
I personally only use locking tuners on guitars that have a trem arm. I find the lack of wiIds around the peg helps the instrument hold tune after doing the wigglies
@Bango1959
2 жыл бұрын
I put locking tuners on my Fender Player. I play a lot of Shadows songs, so I use the tremolo a lot. with the locking tuners, the Fender Player stays in tune. Another advantage is putting new strings on it. you are so done with it.
@mike1967sam
4 жыл бұрын
Landon, there's an old vid on youtube, don't know if it's still up made by a guy called Scott Grove. Now Scott's about my age or a little older I'm 52 and though he does have his quirks he really knows what he's talking about and he's got like every guitar you can imagine he's got liken 300 guitars and he did a vid on tuners and basically he says that any tuners will do the job as long as they're not broken a perfectly normal set of tuners is every bit as solid as the most expensive set of locking tuners. Locking tuners simply facilitate changing strings, period, end of story.
@landonbailey
4 жыл бұрын
cheers thanks!
@rcstl8815
8 ай бұрын
The utmost thing to remember is that the strings span a couple feet (2/3 meter) of wood that is subject to changes size every minute as temperature and humidity changes. I struggle trying to understand why one should not expect to verify tuning each time an instrument is picked up, you understand the difference regarding pianos. lol
@ubermac85
3 жыл бұрын
If you know how to string properly you can “lock” any string on any tuner. The “under-over” stringing is the same locking effect. Locking tuners are meant for fast string changes really, any tuning stability you get is a side effect. Learn to string properly. 😎
@gringogreen4719
3 жыл бұрын
Scott, absolutely. I would also recommend my technique of wrapping as much of the string post as possible with the string. You do not want to overwind though. This will minimize buzzing and Sitar drones as well as direct more energy to transfer through the nut into neck. Basically getting the most out of the parts.😎👍✨
@johnb4024
3 жыл бұрын
That works great if you don't use a tremolo. If you do use a tremolo all those winds begin to uncoil when the tension comes off the string. This results in sharp notes once the Tremolo goes back to the neutral position
@Shred_The_Weapon
4 ай бұрын
If I’m not mistaken, the first time I saw tuners that weren’t locking tuners was when I was 20 and purchased the Jazz Bass that I played from 2000 to 2019. Previously, I don’t think I had seen a guitar with open tuners. To this day, I often wonder what the big deal is with those. That’s after having owned only one electric guitar equipped with them, my own current Telecaster.
@jimmyjimmy951
3 жыл бұрын
Changed my on Tele and Strat and agree that their was no tuning stability difference. Positive points for me regarding locking tuners are, they look better IMO, (vintage style buttons on mine) and they are less hassle when changing strings. Each to there own I suppose..
@davidpugh1985
4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you thanks.i put a set on my SG.& I thought they would take care of the tunning but it didn't but it did help some.keep posting .thank David
@gringogreen4719
3 жыл бұрын
Might be a lengthy thread. I have had several guitars that have had locking tuners. I will go over the ones I have had and currently have. My first guitar with locking tuners was a G&L ASAT Special and it had Sperzels. Since this is a great US made guitar the tuners worked well and were a breeze to change. I will also qualify that this was probably the best set of locking tuners and it was stock drom the store. This was a mid 90s model and I miss that guitar, really cool. My next guitar with locking tuners is my Charvel Desolation Series DC-2 in Smear Blue. The tuners work great, they are a Sperzel type of copy. The guitar has a Stopbar and TOM bridge so super stable. The tuners work well and they are easy to restring. Now I have two guitars were I am rebuilding them and both are copy cat Strat guitars. I decided to go on both of them with the GFS Sperzel style locking tuners. Now where these differentiate from the OG Sperzels and the Charvel tuners is these are staggered heights. Basically there are two tuners each of short, medium, and tall heights. The OG Sperzels were all short, the Charvels are roughly mediums. So the first guitar I put it on I put the tall ones cloest to the nut and the short ones farther away. I found out this require post wrapping to gwt the desired downward angle (actually my guitar tech did that since that guitar had to have the nut relocated closer to the headstock). So on the second Strat copy I put the short ones closer to the nut and the tall ones durther away to take advantage of the Graph Tech string trees I installed. Once I replace the strings on my first Strat copy I will swap the shorties and the tall boys on that headstock. On guitars with trems, the locking tuners do help the string return to pitch. On non trem guitars, like Landon here its more negligible if one knows how to do a good string replacement job. By that I mean doing and over/under wrap on the string as it goes through the post (pinches the string) and then getting the string wrap close to the bottom of the post. Once the strings stretch, this is a really secure way to have tuning stability and maximum energy transfer through the nut. On my guitars, the Strat knock offs have a very Fender like non pitched neck and headstock. Same went for the G&L ASAT Special. The Charvel has a shallow pitch so the medium posts work fine on that but I personally prefer to get the strings as close to the bottom of the string post as possible. I have two other Strat style guitars with trems and both have Grover tuners, so with my method its pretty stable tuning. I also have five guitars, solid bodies and hollow bodies with Bigsby or Bigsby style trems and all do fine with stock, non locking tuners. Now I can only go by my experience, the players I see who tend to have tuning issues honestly do a crap job on string their guitars up. I see two, maybe three winds around the string post and thats it. On all strings. What this does is create a shallow angle from the nut to the headstock so it greatly reduces energy transfer to the nut and this is where I see the buzzing strings and Sitar like drones. Also no over/under string pinch, so yeah, that can cause slippage too. So I have had at least four of them let me restring their guitar, with their preferred strings with the over/under technique and wrap the post pretty much to the bottom. Guess what? Once the strings stretched, far more tuning stability, no more buzz, pretty much no issues. Now one thing I want to point out which might likely be a reason for Landon's minimal impact on guitar tuning stability. If you put on locking tuners you really should have the guitar professionally set up by a luthier to get the most out of this change. If you want everything, get them to put in a new professional nut of bone or manmade ivory like Graph Tech. This will get the most stability and tone out of that region of the guitar. Otherwise you are looking at minor (single digit percentage) improvements or just sheer preference. If you take the time to do the over/under string pinch technique and wrap up the whole post, you will find you get better tuning stability and a bit of an increase in tone to boot with just this technique.😉👍✨
@Doug5524
4 жыл бұрын
I find locking tuner great on two of my guitar one is a Gibson standard premium AAAA top the other one is a Fender American Deluxe I personally think there a must for a quick change but still have to tune regularly, like you here in England UK temperature changes quite a bit enjoying you videos thank you for all you do Happy New Year
@landonbailey
4 жыл бұрын
Hey UK! thanks for watching
@denniscraven8438
4 ай бұрын
“I don’t use trems”. Come into our world a while friend! The LT is a god send.
@mudfloodtheband2983
3 жыл бұрын
Teles are the most stable guitars tuning wise. I have lockers on my guitar with a Wilkinson Trem and they help in this situation.
@opforgeron
3 жыл бұрын
Locking tuners is a no thanks for me. I mean, if it's already there I keep it but I won't pay anymore to change them. I have a LGT Godin with stock locking tuner which I had problem with tuning stability. I sent my guitar to a professional and he changed my locking tuners for a better brand (Hipshot). Now my guitar is back and nothing has changed. Still a bit of tuning to do like any other guitar. So like others have said, it may be a good option for speed but for stability, it is not. Great channel btw!
@landonbailey
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! cheers
@alexking4463
5 ай бұрын
I find that if you pull the string hard with a pair if pliers before you lock it you get better results in staying tune. I'm curious as to what the manufactures "say" about why locking tuners were developed in the first place. Is it for quicker string change OR tuning stability. Was it for quicker string change and it happened to increase tuning stability ?
@landonbailey
5 ай бұрын
Id like to know as well
@shaunw9270
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your honest opinion. Imo locking tuners are fashionable right now but will the trend continue? I'm sure there were locking tuners available 20 years ago . Anyone remember locking nuts? I was watching someone rave about fanned fret guitars on You Tube recently which is funny because I can remember reading a review in Guitarist magazine in the late 80's for a fanned fret Ibanez(?) pointy metal guitar and thinking , hang on , Rickenbacker did this unsuccessfully in the 60's! What goes around , comes around as they say .
@ferox965
Жыл бұрын
My player plus tele came stock with locking tuners. I love them. Im putting a set of locking tuners on my Les Pauls when I get a chance. I'm indifferent to whether or not there's tuning stability, the speed in changing strings is a win itself.
@roybuis7646
3 жыл бұрын
To me, on my Les Paul, upgrading to locking tuners massively improved tuning stability. Ofcourse I still have to tune on a regular basis. But I can now bend my strings and do some Zakk Wylde pinch harmonic vibrato shit and they stay in tune instead of going completely out of wack. I think part may be because it illiminates some user error when winding the strings. String slippage around the post is illiminated.
@chrisjeneson5091
4 жыл бұрын
PRS S2 And Harley Benton Fusion, quick string change is the only real benefit but I like that a lot.
@landonbailey
4 жыл бұрын
cool! still haven't tried any Harley Benton. I hear they are great, but the name Harley Benton isn't great sounding :)
@maekong2010
2 жыл бұрын
I just bought a guitar with locking tuners. If string changes are easier, that will be enough for me. I should change strings much more frequently. I don't gig, but I play the hell of out them. Being semi-retired and a loner, sometimes 8 or 10 hours a day. I love this shit.
@landonbailey
2 жыл бұрын
the gear mechanism is probably better than most stock tuners too, but ya the string change or just temp removal is great
@maekong2010
2 жыл бұрын
@@landonbailey Time got away from me today, so I'll find out tomorrow. I'm in SE Asia and it's damned-near bedtime. I intend to slap on my first set of Ernie Balls. I'm living on the edge, younger brother - throwing caution (and D'Addario) to the wind. The guitar's a virgin Epiphone LP Modern, in case you're wondering. The best 22K baht I ever spent.
@francisdimarzio
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Landon, Happy New Year! I like locking tuners for quick string change, and the higher the ratio the more precise you can tune. I recently installed graphtech ratio locking tuners on an epiphone 339 they are awesome. I also installed a deucenberg trem arm on it then I had some tuning issues so my fix was changing the nut for a graphtech nut and changed the saddles for graphtech and installed a string butler. The graphtech material is self lub so it helps the string not stick which helps the tuning. Off topic I was listening to your original music and I like it, I was wondering, how do you go about formally copyrighting your music? And is distro kid worth a try? I want to release my originals on my KZitem channel as well as other platforms but before I take the jump wanted your opinion.
@landonbailey
4 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year! Ya Distrokid was really easy to use and I believe they take care of copyright
@Always_in_C_standard
4 жыл бұрын
I have them on my Les Paul. I believe they exist to make changing strings easier. Less wraps kind of help a little, but I don't think it's supposed to be like a double locking Floyd Rose.
@landonbailey
4 жыл бұрын
👍🎸
@davetube2ful
4 жыл бұрын
I love the locking tuners they came with my Gibson sg and les paul 2017 and my fender elite, i'm a giging musician and I change strings every two gigs, but I only take one guitar to a job, now are they better than regular tuners I can't tell. I bought some for my players strat to
@michaelsilva3513
3 ай бұрын
They do make string changes easy. From my experience a properly cut nut and nut lubricants are the key
@harrylyme3969
10 ай бұрын
I use Gotoh's on both of my Fenders. One is a trem & the other a stop. I've noticed that the Gotoh's hold tune better than the Fenders. If it matters one ax has 10's & the other 8's.
@alansturgess1324
4 жыл бұрын
There's a real problem for anyone who has a really good Squier and wants to install Fender locking tuners ... the 'pips' on the underside of the tuner which lock the unit securely into the headstock are not in the same position as used on Squier tuners.. Not all Squiers come with the best tuners and there can be tuning issues, so when that happens it can be a good idea to change them. I've used Wilkinson tuners which use a different system on the post AND in the way the tuners use externally visible screws to fasten onto the headstock. They worked well on a Squier Standard Strat. At the moment I'm half way through fitting Fender locking tuners to a Squier. This is a much slower job and needs a lot of care to fill the original 'peg holes' with thin hardwood dowels and then re-drill for the Fender 'pip's barely 1-2mm ahead of them. If it all works out, I'll make a simple photo-based "diary" and upload it. Thanks for your own videos about the Fender tuners.
@landonbailey
4 жыл бұрын
🎸👍🙂
@alansturgess1324
4 жыл бұрын
@@landonbailey Thanks. I'm keeping that photo diary so when the task is completed, I'll upload to YT and post the link here. So far the job has gone very well - though you may be surprised when you see what Squier I'm using. I've decided to also replace the string trees and they won't arrive until the end of next week. I'll be back when everything is sorted and tested and I've had time to make the upload. Until then - stay safe and thanks again.
@alansturgess1324
4 жыл бұрын
I'm not a luthier or tech but I finished the job using basic DIY tools. The end result has been very pleasing. The end result is demonstrated here ... kzitem.info/news/bejne/w6B52Jigk6BliWU
@dugbert5
2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried the Auto-Trim locking tuners? No need to cut the string.
@landonbailey
2 жыл бұрын
I haven't!
@088Noir
2 жыл бұрын
Locking tuners are used only for changing strings easier or if you use a Floating bridge it helps a lot.
@MarcAndreLevesque
3 жыл бұрын
Locking tuners allow for ease of restringing the guitar, end of story. With a trem, you don't need to learn to string a guitar with a wrap to keep tuning stability with locking tuners. It's not necessary if you have a properly setup trem and nut with the right angle to the strings at the headstock. It's just easier.
@jonathananthony1901
10 ай бұрын
Hey Landon, have you ever noticed a difference in tonal response after the locking tuners are installed? I know higher mass tuners can make subtle differences in the higher frequencies. Have you noticed anything like that with Fender Locking Tuners?
@landonbailey
10 ай бұрын
no I never notice stuff like that
@jonathananthony1901
10 ай бұрын
@@landonbailey thank you!
@chuckm9603
3 жыл бұрын
I only have one problem with them on my lefty strat and tele, when hanging them on the wall the tuner hits the low E tuner and E string comes loose.
@patricksclarke
4 жыл бұрын
I wasn't a fan of the added weight. To me, at least, they felt heavier. I don't hate them. I'm using the vintage style split shaft Fender tuners. Lock enough for me. The Graph Tech ratio tuners do look interesting.
@landonbailey
4 жыл бұрын
I didn't notice any weight difference myself 👍🎸
@TheFunnyzach
3 жыл бұрын
Tele/strats don't really need locking tuners as much, I agree with that. Gibsons are the only brand I enjoy locking tuners on. For me they really do help tuning stability. A well lubricated nut and locking tuners
@csederqvist
3 жыл бұрын
Locking TUNERS are NOT made for better tuning stability, but for fast, super easy changing of strings. If you put the strings on correctly and use "the locking technique" and of course apply proper stretching (also needed for locking tuners btw) then there is not much need for locking tuners other than as said, for quickly changing strings without winding etc. A LOCKING NUT mechanism on the other hand is a way to get better tuning stability, as your tuning pegs and poor winding around the pegs are taken out of the equation as a result. Here's a couple of videos describing this "locking technique " from PRS Tech Centre: www.prsguitars.com/index.php/blog/post/restringing_your_guitar_how_to_lock_the_strings1
@2dazetake
3 жыл бұрын
I would suspect just upgrading to a higher quality tuner,would give you more luck staying in tune,this might be why locking tuners are so popular, I've often wonder about them, I've learned some cheap tuners can be better than name brand tuner's too, sometimes nothing works due a bad piece of wood for the neck, I've had tuning problems on a Squire like that, I'm assuming the neck is just too slim to hold tune,or a neck pocket may be moving, sometimes you just have to give up and grab another guitar, thanks for the video, saved me some money Landon.
@misterknightowlandco
4 жыл бұрын
I can't tell if those locking tuners are the staggered locking tuners, but if they are, the reason your not noticing a difference is because you didn't take off the string trees. Take off the string tree and let the staggered tuners do what they are designed to do. The stagger is to hold down the string in the nut without the sharp angle created by the string tree. It creates a smoother motion of the string through the nut. I put these in all my strats and throw out the string trees. An added perk now without the string trees you can do behind the nuts bends on the high strings easier which can be fun lol. Cheers!
@landonbailey
4 жыл бұрын
hey thanks for the info. ya they are staggered tuners. Any idea why Fender would still use the tree string on all the locking tuner models, like the Ultra line? I don't know the physics at all
@misterknightowlandco
4 жыл бұрын
@@landonbailey honestly, i think its a looks thing. It looks weird to have a fender with no string trees lol. I think people would freak out. Heritage brands always get crap when they change things. Give it a shot and see what you think. I play strats and not teles so maybe that makes some sort of difference, idk. Scott Grove does this to most of his strats. I thought it was weird at first but the good doctor was right again. Make sure the 3 with the lower posts are on the 3 thinnest strings. When i first installed mine i messed it up and the results were funny to say the least.
@landonbailey
4 жыл бұрын
@@misterknightowlandco worth a shot :) I won't actually remove them, I can can just pull the strings above. I'd rather not show the hole leftover. :) cheers
@adrianhiggins4723
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot as I was curious about the value in replacing them on all my guitars. I think we live in a very trial and error society in this country. I see many professional that outplay the average and rarely upgrade the tuners. Take Jack Pearson from Almond Brothers he is a great guitarist and plays stock Squiers. I'm sure some companies have lousy ones that"s another thing but if it stays in tune? Thanks Again great tip!
@rgdhu92
Жыл бұрын
Great video. For most of us. Though comma just like you comma the real benefit is changing strength quickly, especially if you break a string.
@rgdhu92
Жыл бұрын
In particular, breaking a string in the middle of a gig
@glendoggett9670
Жыл бұрын
I like them for convenience in restringing, but locking tuners still don’t help with changes in temperature. You can tune em up warm, or you can tune em up cold!
@kewlbns69
4 жыл бұрын
i bought a set last year for my ibanez SZ (fixed bridge) 1st time i broke a string since i bought the guitar in 2004. the gears were better than the stock ones so i just pulled the locking screws out and left 'em in.
@tuckerlane7995
4 жыл бұрын
Now that I'm ordering my tidepool strat .. I'm gonna need an amp. An egnater rebel 20, used by one of my favorite guitarists, Kieth Howland of Chicago... Or a Peavy classic. Then I'll need a bare bones fender telecaster.
@tuckerlane7995
4 жыл бұрын
Maybe another tidepool... dammit
@plasticbleach4004
4 жыл бұрын
OH MY GOD KEITH HOWLAND. I LOVE KEITH HOWLAND.
@binface9
4 жыл бұрын
Rebel 20 is a nice amp, but they have issues with their fx loop causing signal to cut out. It's no big deal as long as you have some contact cleaner handy to squirt in the jacks.
@biggkahuna3867
4 жыл бұрын
you are right the only value is quick change of strings.
@billgross176
4 жыл бұрын
Locking tuners are a god send for easy string changes. Clearly if you are replacing poor quality tuners with good quality locking ones you should see a stability increase.
@bsquare6809
Жыл бұрын
I bought a tele body and neck from a guy online. No hardware or electronics, so i get to choose and build the whole thing. I cant figure out what style tuners i need. The holes seen to be 10mm and next to each one is a single tiny hole centered within the inline direction (meaning the tiny hole isnt offset). I cant tell if it was for a screw or aligning pin. How can i determine the required style? Vintage or modern?
@landonbailey
Жыл бұрын
I would pick what you like then mod the neck if needed
@michaelbrown6472
9 ай бұрын
Just as important to tuning stability is the gear ratio, and how snug the worm wheel plays to the capstain.
@simonedimarzio2557
4 жыл бұрын
I recently bought an American Elite Telecaster, I never used this kind of tuners and I did not buy the guitar beacuse of them...do you what is the max string gauge that can be put on these tuners? I usually put Thomastik Jazz Bebop 0.12-0.50
@landonbailey
4 жыл бұрын
I can’t say what the max gauge would be. I’d be more concerned about the nut being recut to allow for a higher gauge
@simonedimarzio2557
4 жыл бұрын
@@landonbailey Yes, now a set of 0.10 are on so I have to review the setup. I'll do a test hoping not to change my favourite string set for lighter strings. Thanks!
@NikRakiqta
3 жыл бұрын
Hey bro I am thinking about buying Schaller locking tuners but I do happen to tune up and down a lot. Judging by the way these tuners look I suppose tuning to something like Drop A wouldn't be possible I am not sure about this,please do correct me if I am wrong. Another question I have is if someone has used Gotoh tuners? Just wondering because I saw that they cost half as much as the schaller ones Cheers!
@HektorBandimar
2 жыл бұрын
Good review, thanks for your honest report. 👍 Personally, I think if you have a good quality bone nut and quality string trees, and stretch the strings well after restringing every time, a lot of tuning issues disappear.
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