Kpop doesn't deserve BAP imo lol. That industry has done them so dirty ! Still only linked to kpop cause of them.
@NelBresciani
5 жыл бұрын
Same
@wonwoomeowmeow
6 жыл бұрын
Never forget the legend that is 1004
@Drstrange3000
6 жыл бұрын
The very song that got me into KPop and got me out of the worst funks ever! At the time, it reminded me.of early Linkin Park and I immediately fell in love.
@wonwoomeowmeow
5 жыл бұрын
@@Drstrange3000 yeesss!! there's really something about that song that i always come back to. it makes me really melancholy and it has that signature bap sound. and yes, it was also the same song that convinced me to come back to kpop after listening to kpop on and off. really special place in my heart and bap should be really proud of this masterpiece (as with all their songs)
@laurasanya
5 жыл бұрын
Marissa Chin and One Shot 👌
@user-wx3de3of9w
5 жыл бұрын
Obviously
@youexpectedanamebutitwasmedio
4 жыл бұрын
And the Queen Warrior
@wonwoomeowmeow
6 жыл бұрын
Omg I literally ask myself this question everyday 😭 they had soooo much hype when they first came out, I will never forget how they were considered EXO’s rival in the beginning. Bts, exo and bap attended the music bank in Mexico in 2014 and literally everyone was saying how it was a bap concert and they had the loudest screams throughout the night. I’ve supported the boys for so long and I really want them to succeed to much, especially since they were on such a good track. They really do deserve the best and I just feel so sad for them cause their breakout is long overdue 😪 not to mention, they should be recognised as the first boy group that shattered the typical boy group image by going dark and gritty with their emotional lyrics.
@rbray4832
6 жыл бұрын
They popular or not,i will always support them,even their in bap or leave bap,,i will always stand behind them..bang yongguk,kim himchan,jung daehyun,youngjae,jongup,and zelo..i respect and love u guys😘
@tyasadining7329
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'll support them individually
@pcielful
5 жыл бұрын
Same #bapforever 💪🏼💪🏼🙏🏽🙏🏽❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@jspquoimettre3158
6 жыл бұрын
BABYYYZ? 💚
@Popsori
6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call myself a Babyz. Instead, I'm a fan of K-pop as a whole.
@jspquoimettre3158
6 жыл бұрын
@@Popsori its not that :') it's just that some babyz will pass by there. :3
@Popsori
6 жыл бұрын
Ahhh now I understand :) I hope they do, since I want to hear their take on B.A.P too.
@bapyongukgukguk2352
6 жыл бұрын
@@Popsori You won't see too many BABYz here. When I say "BABYz" I mean those that still support the boys. I am a BABYz I just look at BAP videos. I am not a kpop fan
@rbray4832
6 жыл бұрын
And here iam😂
@Dr.Mrs.TheMonarch
6 жыл бұрын
My 2 cents: I know people like to blame TS. Which yes, they are partly to blame. I, on the other hand, blame the fans. The ones that left to be fans of others. Sure, nothing wrong with multi-fandom. But to all out not support or half support B.A.P because of a lawsuit... ridiculous. They are the fall of B.A.P . If B.A.P kept their fan base and it grew, yeah they would be one of the top groups. It is tragic that B.A.P filed a lawsuit to be healthy and get paid what they deserve. Thinking their fans would show up when it was done. To find half or less of their fan base gone to others. AT least TS stuck around to try to turn things around despite everything. And yes, they are a shit company , but are you a shit fan? yeah.. let that sink in. This is my opinion. Everyone has one. So don't get all pissed off. Let's just pray they can all be reunited when all the contracts are up. That is my only wish. !FIGHTING! B.A.P!!
@Popsori
6 жыл бұрын
That's actually a very good take. It's easy to dogpile on TS, as you and I both agree that TS isn't the best company. The belief "fans should be true fans and stick with the group, regardless of their company sucks" is admirable and I agree a lot with that. But I think that a lot of Babyz, if they continued to support B.A.P, will also support TS by extension, and don't want that. So rather that support one half (B.A.P) by going to their concerts, most fans would rather just boycott the company, even though it hurts B.A.P as well. Plus, when the lawsuit was finally over, a lot of fans drifted over to other male groups. As you alluded to, when things look rough for a group, some fans "jump ship" and move onto to the next trendy group. K-pop fans, in general, want to stan a group that's doing very well and trendy. But when a group is going through trouble, it can test a fan's loyalty and patience. Loyalty is tough to find in K-pop. In the end, I'm thinking a lot of Babyz want B.A.P to be signed to a new company and get a fresh start. As for fans, I agree that they're partly to blame as well, as a strong fan base would have helped B.A.P remain in the spotlight.
@Dr.Mrs.TheMonarch
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your reply. It really does baffle me. To "jump ship" on a group you like. Fans should of been happy they got through the lawsuit and back to doing what they do well, making music . Getting to see them back on the stage performing. Regardless, of what company they are signed to. I have to say, it is nice to see another fan of B.A.P that can see all the aspects of why this group is not in the top tier of Kpop male groups. It is refreshing.
@Dr.Mrs.TheMonarch
6 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@MissCarefully
5 жыл бұрын
I waited every single day that B.A.P came back from the lawsuit 😭❤
@LeNoir2411
5 жыл бұрын
truth though.. i still remember how most,or should i say all of my friends and the other international babyz abandoned them,goes to exo then bts.. and i abandoned kpop altogether,only checking on b.a.p and t-ara sometimes to see if they made their comeback..
@defiantaichi
6 жыл бұрын
Reply to your title, their company sucks. I kinda wish bap would do something like beast and be reborn.
@barryeylle9760
5 жыл бұрын
ilovemuzik well Zelo is free now as well so they are 1/3 of the way to freedom
@kentingz
5 жыл бұрын
They disbanded and there’s a rumour that they might reunite like what Beast did
@barryeylle9760
5 жыл бұрын
K-pop Junk i hope so! since Youngjae has made his own company maybe he might sign them with him.
@gwando701
6 жыл бұрын
As one of Babyz who still loyal to them now, I listed several reason the downfall of B.A.P. Please bare with me! 1. Lawsuit - Everyone know this, their popularity decline, lose fans 2. Lack of promotion - B.A.P rarely go to variety show or musical program, so Korea don't really know them, Zelo has potential to compete in SMTM, tbh. Jongup can participate in dance program or make solo debut but TS said no (their talent was waste by TS) 3. Struggle to make a strong comeback - After lawsuit, their new song still cannot top One Shot, Warrior or No Mercy. A lot of fans still prefer their old release. 4. Lack of social media content - Unlike BTS who strong at social media/youtube. B.A.P still weak in social media game. No dance practice video (before lawsuit), no backstage moment, no song cover. 5. New group - Can't really blame fans, but fans need new music and new album, lawsuit really screwed them up. Even though, they release good album after lawsuit, it hard to catch attention of new fans.,. Lastly, T freaking S or TShit 6. Imagine, they scammed B.A.P hard earned money, pay them like shit (if you don't know, B.A.P payment before lawsuit lower that Korea standard worker salary), treat them like shit (drag Daehyun out of hospital bed to perform) and many more. Google it However, the strong point of B.A.P that everyone can't denied is their masterpiece discography, their lyrics game blew other group off the charts, they have one of the best rapper, choreographer and vocalist. I don't fucking care about their popularity, I want them to get out of TS ASAP! period!
@akankshajoshi8788
4 жыл бұрын
nd not to forget the best dancer.
@junjunmato251
6 жыл бұрын
B.A.P is only one boygroup I stan, they are my Role Model. I'll be by their side till I can't breath anymore. They are my happiness. When I'm sad and stress, they are the only one who can make me smile again. I'm thankful to them.
@prischaumbaran5354
6 жыл бұрын
Same..
@sridewianjani3543
6 жыл бұрын
Same ❤ #ForeverWithBAP
@bangsterdiannimsparkyu9674
6 жыл бұрын
Same👊
@andiniwirawan
6 жыл бұрын
Yes yes yes
@andiniwirawan
6 жыл бұрын
I suffered from a quite terrible depression growing up. Losing my will to live and things like that. The only songs I could relate to is B.A.P and early BTS songs, about people who loses dreams and trying to get back on their feet. Throughout the years, B.A.P had the most constant meaning behind their songs and I genuinely fall for that charms. Mixtapes by Yongguk and Zelo is currently my jam, always. Because it dig deep into your heart and open your mind like no other people. They let you see how messed up the world is and is encouraging you to take part fixing the world. It is not only stated in the song but they also practiced it in real life. Helping others through charity, raising awareness, doing what they loved to do. And at that time I think "wow, can I be just like them?". B.A.B.Y.z is the best. The most neutral fans I've met and I've been in. Never have I ever heard of a fanwar started or involving B.A.B.Y. if it does happened, it would probably dont last long as B.A.B.Y is the chillest fandom I've met. If you don't know someone and you're looking for someone that you could relate to, that you could share story to, here is B.A.B.Y the one that accept you as their blood related family. The one that support you even though you dont know who they are. The most open minded community. Why is B.A.B.Y like that? Because we were taught to have each others back by our Role Model, B.A.P :) thats why I love B.A.P and B.A.B.Y.z
@jhoanpadios160
6 жыл бұрын
Whatever happens i will be forever with BAP. 💚💚 #Babyzforever
@kpoplea6170
6 жыл бұрын
TS totally ruined B.A.P. You're right, they had such potential to be huge because lord knows they have the talent. I don't blame Yongguk for leaving. While it pains me to see B.A.P end I hope they all leave for their own health and continue careers under a new company either as soloists or if possible all together under a new name and company. In the mean time I will be there to support the remaining 5 members on their new tour. Can't wait to see them in a month for the first time :) B.A.P Forever!
@rbray4832
6 жыл бұрын
Tq babyz,lets support them,i have strong feeling they will reunit again,but is ok if their not,if they want to be soloist,we not be worried,coz they all already know how to write and compouse songs.
@elam1111
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting the spotlight on BAP. I've been a BABY since 2012 and it really breaks my heart to see how they have fared after the hiatus. I still hope for the best for them and that they will continue to do what they do best - make music and spread social messages as OT6 - after their contracts with TS Ent expire.
@vesperavespera4110
6 жыл бұрын
been a baby since 2012. and I belong to the society where they only have one fandom. i must say there are 3 things an idol group needs to survive. 3. Good company, good management. 2. timing, 1. Luck i will never forget how these legends changed my life.
@midg33t
6 жыл бұрын
BAP is the first group that I seriously followed. They introduced me to a wonderful fan base that looks out for each other. I still enjoy listening to their early songs as much as their later releases. I agree with your statements that BAP and Block B primed the market for BTS, and it is rather unfortunate that BAP filed the lawsuit at the time they did. Thank you for making this video (and all the others you have made as well)!
@antiawarenessawarenessclub
6 жыл бұрын
It's so hard to succeed in kpop. If even one of your stars don't align it's all over. I hope future companies learn the lesson and treat their artists right.
@anjugupta99
6 жыл бұрын
But let’s be real if they had same level of success as bts or exo they would be hated like anything for being ‘overrated’ Since kpop ‘fans’ love to hate the thing that’s popular
@baniboo
6 жыл бұрын
Well to be fair these fandoms are hated because the fans are really toxic
@baniboo
6 жыл бұрын
@@anjugupta99 I am aware that the fandom has nothing to do with the artist. I don't hate BTS just because I can't stand the fandom. I never said that groups deserve hate because of their fandom jesus
@kotkotak6205
6 жыл бұрын
actually no because BAP have everything that people complain about in EXO and BTS : they have good vocalists, they have s strong rap line, they make their own music, they're great in live performances
@rbray4832
6 жыл бұрын
agree with you..i think more hate than bts/exo,because we know bap,even people critics them from being overrated or watever,they will stil do it what they want,like bang yongguk yamazaki mv,he have many critics in that mv,and yes he deleted after that,but he upload again and not even little bit he edit that mv😂😂😂
@bangsterdiannimsparkyu9674
6 жыл бұрын
@@kotkotak6205 I agree 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 Stan Talent, Stan B.A.P!
@shine199723
6 жыл бұрын
I’ve always thought this about B.A.P. I remember when they first debuted and those first two years. They were so popular. I had a friend that wasn’t even into kpop, who loved them! I knew then that they were getting huge. So I understand that it was extremely sad to see them fall after that wonderful short lived high. It’s honestly one of the saddest things.
@kotkotak6205
6 жыл бұрын
I personally do not care about popularity, to me they're great ,they never stopped making quality music even when their popularity went down hills, which is the best thing a kpop fan can ever wish for, popularity changes idols and affects style, BAP stayed true to themselves and I love them the way they are
@faerykat
5 жыл бұрын
Yes!!!!!
@marianraymundo7661
6 жыл бұрын
Quite heartbroken. 😥 I just wish B.A.P would survive all the hardship and be successful in the future. 😊
@leenelson4169
6 жыл бұрын
Hehehe, people say that B.A.P's popularity declined after the hiatus, but that was the exact year I got into B.A.P. :D Right during November of 2015 they fell into my life. Now I'm crazy about them and going to see them during their American Tour this November. B.A.P FOREVER!!
@tyasadining7329
6 жыл бұрын
How can you got into BAP? Because most of the babys were leaved them.
@leenelson4169
6 жыл бұрын
@@tyasadining7329 Because they're awesome? It's not hard to recognize talent. B.A.P are amazing.
@tyasadining7329
6 жыл бұрын
@@leenelson4169 in such the worst year? You're amazing
@leenelson4169
6 жыл бұрын
@@tyasadining7329 B.A.P is amazing. I love their post hiatus work.
@tyasadining7329
6 жыл бұрын
@@leenelson4169 oh yeah. We can't deny that BAP is an amazing group. I really love them too ❤
@yukicrosszeria101
6 жыл бұрын
BAP are KINGS!
@anjuhime1
6 жыл бұрын
I knew of K-pop for some years but it was only when I heard BAP that i really got into K-Pop. One Shop took over my heart, to be honest. I've been a BABY since then and I'm proud!! I love them so much! TS doesnt deserve them. A lot of new kpop fans don't even realize that they were indeed big. I'm sad that their talent and amazing songs aren't so well known. The lyrics are always amazing and with really powerful messages. Now I just hope for the best for each member and I'll keep supporting them!
@jonatanbarrang4353
3 жыл бұрын
B.A.P is the only group that could punched BTS in one hand and EXO in one hand.
@katieedsallreamy4756
3 жыл бұрын
It makes me mad how people think the issues of yesterday and today was only brought to the forefront by BTS when BAP was talking about it way before
@rajatmazumder8318
2 жыл бұрын
They have punched bro but some delusal fans are so rude to bap and i know bap keep the k-pop style that's why they are not so famous or might be not much famous and it's completely okay bcoz they are unique
@belenruiz0912br
5 жыл бұрын
B.A.P is such a genuine group, they honestly deserve so much more recognition not only for their amazing music and choreography but for the loving individuals that they are. I wish I could have been here for them since the beginning to support them but unfortunately I wasn’t :\\ all that matters is that i’m here for them now and i’m going to continue showing them a lot of love and appreciation until the very end. That’s a promise.
@luki4937
5 жыл бұрын
For those comments comparing B.A.P with BTS and EXO, What is wrong with you! All three are AMAZING groups, what is done is done! don't put down other groups just focus on supporting your fav group
@user-mq6hh2gv7w
5 жыл бұрын
I only became a BABY in late 2016, during the Skydive/Noir promotions. Before that, I didn't listen to any k-pop groups and only recognize the more big names mentioned in this video. What made me like B.A.P's music was their powerful, serious ,and tough image that I just couldn't find in other groups. My usual reaction to the tough boy image in music videos is that I find them somewhat trying to hard, and yet I didn't feel that way with B.A.P. Content-wise, I find their lyrics to not just be a criticism of society, but like a declaration of war against injustice. It wasn't trying to be tough for the sake of image, but because you can't take something like that lightly. Although I was not aware of B.A.P during the time of the lawsuit, I'm glad that it happened; because if it didn't, then the members would still be bound to their slave contracts. It was a risk on the members' part to file a lawsuit but honestly, if there was any K-pop artist who would take that risk because they knew something was wrong, they would. This cemented my belief that they truly mean what they say in their songs, and its not just for show. What I'm not happy about is that the lawsuit HAD to happen in the first place. But, to quote Yongguk, their team came back. Together, even. As for Yongguk leaving...his contract expired, and he decided not to renew it. Given that the lawsuit years ago was a joint lawsuit by all 6 members, I believe that the other members will not renew their contract as well. They tried to get out once already, afterall. But that's still something to ponder about. Lastly, B.A.P definitely is not as popular, 'big', or as loved by as many as EXO or BTS (since these are the groups that they have often been compared with in this video), but I don't think they aren't successful. Especially if success isn't defined by popularity. They make good music and they've had a good time with each other and the people who are their fans. That sounds like a pretty sweet deal to me.
@bapyongukgukguk2352
5 жыл бұрын
Lawsuit happened cause ts won't listen to ANYBODY
@MissCarefully
5 жыл бұрын
B.A.P will comeback as OT6 in a much better company. I bet on it ! I'm a loyal baby! And B.A.P is my first ultimate favourite group forever!
@ElwoodShort
6 жыл бұрын
I got introduced to kpop because my friend was a BAP stan, but i found BTS, Seventeen, Monsta X and Stray Kids. BAP seemed like there was nothing happeing at that time, while BTS were doing crazy well. Its such a shame, and shows how important it is for companies to have fair contracts because they can lose out as well. Overseas fans are probably going to be very wary of this, because the international reputation of kpop has typically been that idols are all in unfair contracts, which is an unfair stereotype, but not entirely untrue. Thankfully due to the standard contracts enforced by the S Korean govt, this sort of mess won't happen in the future. Shame that kids in the UK dont have similar protection when dealing with big labels.
@cashi4225
4 жыл бұрын
I believe B.A.P can rise again because they make their own music and create their dance. I like canon dance on Honeymoon. Adore so much on B.A.P lyrics. I like how creative B.A.P sing a genre.
@exosellie
6 жыл бұрын
The only real rivalry I really enjoyed was EXO-L vs. BABYZ because EXO and B.A.P were both original and refreshing ❤
@jspquoimettre3158
6 жыл бұрын
please exo-ls support them too. they need it. our boys deserve so much. 😭 ~we make love, not war.
@andiniwirawan
6 жыл бұрын
This is really iconic actually😂 I remembered I was following both BABYz international and (back then) EXOtics; its about MAMA2012 I guess.. exotics argued about who won the best rookie awards. They hatin baby and their acc is full of tweets degrading babyz and b.a.p while on the other sides, b.a.b.y.z was like "what with that fandom? I don't get it.." and then not reacting to the mean tweets the exotics sent. And turns out the one who won was Busker Busker😂
@exosellie
6 жыл бұрын
@@andiniwirawan wow I love who you pretend it was all just one sided... as I remember, *both* fandom wanted the awards and *both* fandoms had some immature ppl...doesn't seem like you were there at the time 😅 loving to play victims was never a babyz thing. I remember the iconic Busker win tho. It was so plot twist XD
@blackspyritymk6937
6 жыл бұрын
This is what I'm talking about really 😭💕 #BAP
@alipjemy8347
5 жыл бұрын
This video hits way too close to home
@nguyet911
5 жыл бұрын
ugh, i love them so much. i personally don't consider b.a.p "underrated" but rather UNDERAPPRECIATED. to me, underrated is when people don't know how good something is, while underappreciated is when people know how good something but ignore it anyway.
@bapyongukgukguk2352
5 жыл бұрын
This
@Xhin229
5 жыл бұрын
What if B.A.P didn't go hiatus? Probably a much more legendary group now and is loved by every koreans despite the hard genre. But also! If they didn't went hiatus... they're still going to suffer the mismanagement. Our boys only received a salary less than of an annual McDonald's service crew despite numerous successful world tours and top charting songs. That ain't acceptable. They're not just an idol. They're more of an artist. The professionalism, talent, skills, and passion they put in every works they do is beyond everyone. The love of B.A.P for their friendship and fans are applausible. B.A.P members are all good people. The hyungs have to wait until Junhoong reached the legal age for them to proceed with the lawsuit. Because they don't want to left behind any members. They don't want anyone to get hurt. They acted responsible in that hard situation that's why the respect I have for them is beyond anyone.
@shashi35
6 жыл бұрын
Hoping for the very best for BAP, Monsta X, and Stray Kids
@nanaponte8452
4 жыл бұрын
Stay :0 mombebe?
@mr.beater2064
2 жыл бұрын
Monsta X and stary kids are already successful.
@leamarchan2565
5 жыл бұрын
Hmmm....okay You said it all!! I've been a fan of them since October 2012. Great explanation and its great to hear your honest opinion. Geez this is the right video to show all the fans who, what role they play in kpop and what happened (actually all the questions that starts with "Wh-"). But on the other side? Atleast they and we are still strong. All those TRUE MATURED babyz stayed. Those who stayed, felt a deeper connection to B.A.P. The members and Babyz are family that can count on to each other. I Believe B.A.P will be as one (0T6) and come back anew. 💖
@boodledemic6430
6 жыл бұрын
I was always so confused and frustrated to see B.A.P struggle because I knew they had what it took to be up there with EXO and BTS as you mentioned. In the end it comes down to poor management. Secret is talented af but where are they? Sonamoo is as good as any other top girl group - visuals, vocals, dance, concepts, but where they at? TRCNG is a fresh energetic cluster of talented boys and they should be booming after releasing honest to goodness bops like Spectrum and Wolf Baby but again...where are they? When it happens to basically every group under one company I don’t blame the groups. T$...I don’t even know what to say anymore. I just feel so defeated about what happened to B.A.P but I’ll always be a BABY, that’s for damn sure.
@bluepudding9901
5 жыл бұрын
This video makes me want to cry thinking of how my kings were robbed of a more sucessful future and longevity as a group. Im a recent stan and my only regret is that i didnt figure out about them soon enough to at least see them in concert.😞😞
@antha0321
5 жыл бұрын
BEST ABSOLUTE PERFECT. I'm babyz since TADAH era. I love b.a.p so much. Popular or not, b.a.p is the best.
@rasmeylee8538
5 жыл бұрын
I've been following B.A.P for the longest and things could had been different if they were still standing along with BTS and EXO. They could have been as big as them but sadly TS fucked up. Babyz 4ever😭💕
@sasuhanahana9005
5 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing about them, especially from older Armys, because basically everyone said that BTS was a copy of BAP.I listened to their release songs and they have a very rock'n'roll vibe with the mixtures of other music styles very common in kpop, especially rap. I liked the mirror clip, as I call it, and as I haven't heard of disband yet maybe they will recover. Even if they don't get back to the top right away, they may be getting more popularity.
@dsagitarioYT
5 жыл бұрын
B.A.P = POWERFUL KPop Music, Videos and more 💪💪💪
@foreverus3788
5 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree. Babyz here forever!!!
@enciksharul3188
6 жыл бұрын
Reason = the 1 year hiatus Thats the only reason why BAP cant go bigger..they have strong fanbase worldwide..their music are awesome..still my no.1 kpop group ever #baby #stayloyal
@chibiwan11
5 жыл бұрын
Whatever happened, BAP is still the only group i like, all songs post hiatus are so good.
@Angel_Phoenix94
4 жыл бұрын
BAP came before BTS, and now I'm a fan of both groups and I don't want to start a fan war but BAP could have gotten a lot bigger into BTS, if it wasn't for the record company they were in, and lucky ways have come out of it now
@letterjuni2405
5 жыл бұрын
Although it's true that popularity doesn't matter, it's still sad to see BAP's difference in success before and after the lawsuit. I can't imagine how the members felt, knowing that their fanbase had a gaping hole from the long wait. I also can't imagine how different it would be if BAP had debuted under a much better company. Nevertheless, they are still my favorite group, and I am a BABY for life
@lexo3121
5 жыл бұрын
Great video, fantastic to have this discussion on B.A.P, and to have their work appreciated. As a BABY, whilst it makes me sad they are underrated, we have to remember that we can’t measure music entirely by commercial success. B.A.P’s music is meaningful and impactful, and they’ve touched a lot of lives. At the end of the day, that should be more important than how many fans obsessively stream some music videos.
@Popsori
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I always wanted to have a discussion on B.A.P and what the Babyz thought. From the comments, it looks like B.A.P won't be forgotten.
@17_floors_high
5 жыл бұрын
Damn i love BAP so much. I’m actually new to them. Got into them during Wake Me Up. And i just want the best for them. They are, in my opinion, the most underrated group ever in kpop.
@come2jennyy
5 жыл бұрын
You'll fall in SO deep. Like. WOW, they're just-- HMU if you want someone to stan with :""""""""""""""))))))))))))
@17_floors_high
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah i started fully stanning them once they came out with Honeymoon :) I hope they become even more successful in the future~
@come2jennyy
5 жыл бұрын
Highlight is 'so Beast' _ I did too!! And same. They deserve it
@17_floors_high
5 жыл бұрын
I know right. I’m waiting patiently for the boys to regroup with Yongguk and just be independent and do their own thing. 😭🙏🏼
@LeNoir2411
5 жыл бұрын
who remembers them who could beat exo and bts back then.. i still remember how chaotic the fandom was.. remember how we used to 'fight' 😂😢 i miss b.a.p
@rockbisonstolemyjam2459
5 жыл бұрын
BTS was just a rookie that time ,ofc bap could easily beat BTS
@rajatmazumder8318
2 жыл бұрын
@@rockbisonstolemyjam2459 bap was also rookie at their time and their debut was better than BTS bcoz BTS debut are quite similar to bap but bap are more intense
@strawberrykiwiii
5 жыл бұрын
Brb gonna stan now. I'm sooo sorry for being so late. This is my first male group that I'm going to stan. If anyone sees this please teach me more about the fandom :)
@33Jenesis
5 жыл бұрын
Astounding how fast Kpop changes in 5 years. Your description of BAP reminds me of Stray Kids. But the faces, MV design, aesthetics, and sound are so different between these 2 groups. I also feel the same way about management’s big role in an artist’s success. It is hard to do entertainment management because it is about the balance between control vs. freedom. Some artists are nightmare to handle. Some managers have no vision nor fairness. Sad that BAP and TS Entertainment were not a match made in heaven unlike TWICE and JYPE. Often the most talented may not be the mega star due to all sort of reasons and happenstances.
@Popsori
5 жыл бұрын
For sure, K-pop changes very fast. Groups that are popular today in 2018 may not be popular and trendy by 2022. As for a management's role in an artist's success, it's very underrated. Like you said, for every JYPE and Twice, you have other management labels that mismanage groups to irrelevancy.
@bapyongukgukguk2352
5 жыл бұрын
TS has absolutely 0 vision. Look at this sad "tour" occuring now !! Who do shit like that ? Of course ts
@venamelyani9594
4 жыл бұрын
I still waiting B.A.P until now. I can't move to other k-pop groups. Solo or group b.a.b.y always supporting them.
@katieedsallreamy4756
3 жыл бұрын
B.A.P. will always be the group that song about the taboo issues first I really hope BTS members and their fandom would acknowledge this
@ginopucino4957
6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting story... very sad story.
@Rhinie11
5 жыл бұрын
Why I wanted to cry after watching this? I'm a babyz, and I currently only stan B.A.P. Playing what-if games about their situation, I think that's kinda cruel? But yeah I asked my self bout it many times. I hv no idea what will happen to Yongguk especially, if the lawsuit weren't there and the slave contract still went on. Would they be happier than now, would Yongguk's anxiety got worse? But thanks for make this video and bring this issue. This video is so well made and go to the point. I like it^^ Mark B.A.P 7th anniversary, they will still together or will hv separate ways, I'll keep supporting them. B.A.P fightiing! 😭💕💕💕
@CHopeBerlin
5 жыл бұрын
Im an army since 2,5 years and a baby (or how I prefere to say warrior) since 1,5 years. And When I got into BTS in 2016 I thought they were the only group in Kpop who has a big important message and the only group who has diverse and self made music but than I often read sad comments related to b.a.p under BTS videos and when I checked them out I became a bigger fan of b.a.p than BTS....though I know much more about BTS and their music than b.a.p ...but what I realized for myself relating to b.a.p is...you don't need to Know everything about them to know they are literally BEST ABSOLUTE PERFECT
@mayamorgan8047
5 жыл бұрын
Preach!!! 🙌
@Chris-cx3nx
2 жыл бұрын
Amen 🐰🙏🏽
@manelarab6774
6 жыл бұрын
I love #BAP so much 😭😭😭😭😭 I am with them till the end 💝
@pinktofulove3426
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, I was crushed. I still love them.
@imissmingi2413
3 жыл бұрын
I DIDN'T COME HERE TO CRY, BUT I DID. GOD, I MISS BAP SO MUCH. TT
@nandarezky2750
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video😭😭😭
@maariyaah08
5 жыл бұрын
B.A.P will always still be big in our hearts💕
@Peachfaerie
4 жыл бұрын
B.A.P. always copied, never equalled, love B.A.P., the original Kings, the real swag, super talent🐰🤘🌹they are lucky to have escaped the fake world🤩love them forever.
@eve_11.11
5 жыл бұрын
I always feel so cheated out because of TS. I feel like BAP could've been so much more if they hadn't been done wrong of from TS. Their company really messed everything up for them. Daehyun also started smoking too and it went down hill for the boys. When they came back they had lost so much fans and I believe it's because most of our fanbase headed towards BTS (and other groups but at the time BAP was on hiatus BTS became successful) who I love a lot but BAP has always been 1st in my heart. My boys got a touch of fame at the top and rolled down hill because of their company. I'm so sorry for them. They've been through so much and with Yongguk gone I'm sure BAP does not have long left
@ty-xq7bl
2 жыл бұрын
imagine if Daehyun was under SM with those vocals. His voice was so distinct in their songs
@amirakurosaki
5 жыл бұрын
I don't know how to thank you for this wonderful insight and opinion on BAP's case! I am a very loyal and long term fan of BAP and had joined the BABY fandom in 2014 just to realise that they were having a dispute with their company and no one was sure of what was about to happen to them. I lay on my bed every night wondering what did BAP do to deserve this kind of treatment because up to this day, they still love and believe in their fans so much, it hurts. When they came back I was elated but later noticed, as you stated that "something was off" Not only was TSent trying to defame them quite subtly, they barely put any effort in promoting them. BAP did everything to promote themselves and tried their best to gain their fandom back which they got insulted for on a variety show they went to... I am ranting here but DAMN! The injustice BAP faced from not just their company but also their own fandom is TOO MUCH. They deserve so much and I pray they get their deserved fame and success one day...
@Chris-cx3nx
2 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me, please, when BAP was ridiculed on the show?I didn't see it(
@ren2392
5 жыл бұрын
BAP were the first Kpop group i stanned, and them and Shinee were the groups that got me into Kpop ❤️ Really sad how BAP were treated and I wish them the best with their future, whether they regroup like Beast -> Highlight or if they go their separate ways ❤️
@Shawnaberries
5 жыл бұрын
Baby’s are the nicest ! Every BAP concert I’ve gone to I’ve made life long friends. When we come together we’re family. 😍✨
@Popsori
5 жыл бұрын
I can agree as well. From my experiences, Baby fans have been very polite and friendly to me.
@isthatcoco
5 жыл бұрын
This hurts my heart hdhhh i'm really going to cry now. I remember seeing them and bts debut and they used to be bigger than bts, i love them soo much but didn't hear anything from them after a while. I miss them so much hope they're doing okay now.
@isabelch99_
5 жыл бұрын
They're so talented, I don't understand why. Well, I'm BABY, and I love my guy, *STAN TALENT, STAN B.A.P*
@valochedesigns
6 жыл бұрын
Any band, any musician has the right to expect to be treated properly and paid enough for their hard work. I love B.A.P; The leader is especially so talented. For me they are the TVXQ / JYJ of the 3rd generation. SM is as bad as TS by the way. Secret was so massively successful. Why be so shortsighted as a management company and not think long term in the development of your artists? All this work just for quick profit? I am now listening more to J.pop. I feel like any time I like a K.pop group there is some issue bound to happen and I have had enough. What is it about the Hallyu wave and widespread unfair profit distribution, abusive treatment, corruption, and sex scandals? It is not even a question of such issues being the exception, as it feels like the norm in the Korean music industry. The Japanese music industry by comparison feels overall more mature, even if such issues happen there too, but just not as much.
@cheshire54
5 жыл бұрын
It broke my heart 💔 😭 when bap's fandom decreased after the lawsuit. Ever since Warrior, I've been in love with this group. Their style & music was so differet from other groups that just made people instantly become apart of their fandom. TS took these guys for granted even though they are extremely talented. When Yongguk left, it really hit me hard after a few minutes, i was glad he left. TS really treated them like sh*t and they don't deserve any of their talent at all. Bap definently deserved way better than TS. No matter what, i will always be a loyal baby even after they disband and support each and every member. They will always be my #1 💕
@akiheavenly6
5 жыл бұрын
I would definitely contribute their style inconsistency to their fall as well. They got so big for making bad ass music and then they came out with Stop It and Coffee Shop? And then Rain Sound? Nobody wad waiting for that, even if they were good songs.
@Amasloth
4 жыл бұрын
One of baps members said that they will most likely reunite one day. Plus I'm pretty certain kpop will go thru a reunion trend someday for many 2nd generation bands in the future
@ann3301
5 жыл бұрын
This is so sad. But still my bias group. Since 2012. And forever and ever.
@nickelirwin8138
4 жыл бұрын
awe, i cried while watching this 😢 i miss them so much. i absolutely that company.
@laXrockera691
5 жыл бұрын
So... Yongguk Oppa is DONE done... with BAP??? 😢😢😢😢 I haven't heard anything about what the other members are gonna do once their contract expires, but I was hoping they would all leave TS and regroup later. I think they still have to do their military service too! 😭
@user-jm9ep3zp5g
5 жыл бұрын
this is the same thing that happen to TVXQ. bap was not the first and they won't the last...
@suzannekraft3125
5 жыл бұрын
I have been a Kpop fan since 2010. I was only interested in Super Junior until I saw the debuts of BAP and Nu'est. I am still an ELF. Nothing will ever make me leave SJ. But I will never forgive TS for what they did to BAP. My precious and talented babies worked so hard for so long and yet the lawsuit had to be filed to protect them. I look back and still cry sometimes because as you said, BAP really had the it factor and yet the company treated them like animals instead of the kings that they were. I don't know if you are familiar with Nu'est, but they went through hell too, thanks, Pledis. And yet after PD101 season 2 they were able to save their careers that never should have been in danger! If I see BAP I click. I am heartbroken that they all left. But I always hoped that they would go to another label and stay together. Unfortunately it doesn't look promising. I love them so much that it hurts.
@luluby8662
5 жыл бұрын
Y’all better support BYGentertaimment’s new group aka reborn of B.A.P soon cuz these boys gonna leave TS when their contract ends (which is near) and BYG will take the boys to his company. 🤞🏻
@blackspyritymk6937
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this 😭😭😭
@Popsori
6 жыл бұрын
No problem 😀
@CHopeBerlin
5 жыл бұрын
I became first an army and later an warrior...but when I found out about b.a.p I just thought "BTS has to thank TS" cuz if TS wouldn't be a bunch of a.holes then BTS would never be as popular as they are today
@the_sojourner8756
5 жыл бұрын
C-Hope Berlin I agree
@rockbisonstolemyjam2459
5 жыл бұрын
Are u high? When the industry ignore and mistreated BTS where in part did bap help BTS to be a worldwide star? BTS became popular because of their talent and deep meaningful musics, they're humble and family like , and the connection to army's are like family, BTS was planned since 2010 but debut in 2013 , but they became popular in 2016-17 because of hardwork , stop giving the credit to BAP cuz they definitely has nothing to do with BTS success
@makeuploverist
3 жыл бұрын
No one knows when The stars can align and what is meant to be. It’s trust between idols, their company and fans. I’m not a fan of that hardcore music so I could have never been a fan bap or bts with the hip hop genre. I became a bts fan whole heartly because of their personality and love yourself speak yourself era.
@Chris-cx3nx
2 жыл бұрын
I agree !
@rima4795
6 жыл бұрын
thank you for your efforts in this video 💖
@minimeminiu8848
5 жыл бұрын
I quit kpop in the end of 2013 (due to work :p) but I still can remember how BAP overshadowed EXO by that time. BAP warrior is still their best track for me and the best debut for any group ever.
@the_sojourner8756
5 жыл бұрын
I do believe TS really failed B.A.P, and their string of bad luck. As far as Exo and BTS, Exo is apart of SM so I think being under a heavyweight such as SM, boosted their popularity. But for BTS, I definitely see similarities with BAP, and I’m sure BTS drew inspiration from BAP. However, I still blame TS entertainment for and once the lawsuit hit the they lost so many fans, so I think a lot of fans were upset. It’s so sad to see how such a unique, talented and amazing group didn’t get the recognition they deserve
@hanisnajeha3368
5 жыл бұрын
I dont mind if B.A.P fight agaisnt their company for their name rights and songs. I am believing in B.A.P. Whatever choices they made, they will be my number one group in my heart. I will wait for them.
@deeppurplenao832
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video and speak up about this, we as BABYz had it really rough trying to support our boys~ also noises from other fandom r toxic when looking at what us and BAP has been thru 😭
@zope7570
5 жыл бұрын
Remember that B.A.P came out before BTS
@user-ke4ti9dq5v
6 жыл бұрын
tbh i don't think popularity matters🤷 music should just be music
@clannadlover12
5 жыл бұрын
ㄕㄨㄓ the problem is South Korea doesn’t work like that. These artists need to get paid. If the companies don’t rack enough money, they won’t treat their artists well. They need places to live, food to eat, healthcare and rest. That’s the reality and it sucks but they need to be somewhat popular to be successful
@sabrinatanumiharja6416
5 жыл бұрын
6:57 mark got me crying. literally man when b.a.p is almost there they fell to the lowest pit of the hell
@nazankoc
6 жыл бұрын
bap is the another level
@xxbleedingangelsxx
5 жыл бұрын
I found BTS because of BAP. My whole musical identity was formed by BAP. I've been broke since 2012 so neither I have no merch or albums from either group. Now that BYG and Zelo are no longer part of TS Ent, I'm hoping the remaining four are ok. I'm rooting for my Ultimate Bias group/members.
@ImMichelle93
6 жыл бұрын
Baby 4 life ♡
@vincentmin6690
5 жыл бұрын
100% agree with u.
@Vivi-Coree
5 жыл бұрын
Its actually easy. Kpop fans are not faithful. With their lawsuit babyz left and went to other groups who stayed active. I love bts and i love bap. They both deserve the world
@BL00PY.
5 жыл бұрын
It's so sad B.A.P have just not been fortunate at all. If TS didn't do them dirty.
@MD-my8ff
5 жыл бұрын
I seriously kept nodding every single word you say . I still call myself ExoLArmyBaby since Exo Bts and Bap are my most favorite groups. They put me into kpop. And im really saddened of how BAP is today. But ill forver stay by their side. I hope one day this will rise again. I love their relationship with one another.
@camilcammss9984
6 жыл бұрын
Ang sakit sa puso ko na pakinggan ang katotohanan. 😭😭😭😭 We've done our best. Both B.A.P and the true Babyz. Mahal ko kayong lahat. ☺ Lets continue to support our boys till forever.
@culturezoneculturezone9071
6 жыл бұрын
B.A.P is my first K-pop band And I feel like they're the K-POP prince's of K-pop and really paved the way for bad boy concepts! It bugs me when army's go around saying that BTS "changed K-pop concepts 4ever!" *Ha, pu-llllsssss lol 😁
@Popsori
6 жыл бұрын
That's not a bad group for your first K-pop group. They really did pave the way for the bad boy and songs that were rebellious and talked about social issues.
@culturezoneculturezone9071
6 жыл бұрын
@@Popsori yeah that's why I still listen to them now! They never sold their original style and that's what I like.
@andreasol9899
6 жыл бұрын
Haha everyone have a fixation with armys. Bts concept was decided in 2010 and was more heavier. They were other groups that have hip hop style before. 90s kids like hot and seach Kies have their songs talking about society problems. The concept is there cute sexy hip hop
@culturezoneculturezone9071
6 жыл бұрын
@@andreasol9899we aren't obsessed, we just aren't afraid to put them on blast for their stupidity lol. I believe B.A.P has had the bigger impact on the K-POP world than they get credited for. And unlike BTS, they continue to make music that's still raw and memorable today.
@andreasol9899
6 жыл бұрын
@@culturezoneculturezone9071 every K-pop group have fans that thinks their groups are the best vip exol elfs etc. Just like me you have to ignore them. But you have right the álbum who set bts international fame was the most beautiful moment not previous hip hop albums so I don't understand why people insist in this narrative that Bts took bap place because to me they have different Styles. The real evil is ts enterteiment. Also bap is a great group with a Lot of fans. They have tours. And just like you said they didn't change their style so I don't understand why putting always bts vs bap when they are two groups with different Styles.
@autoraithegreat
5 жыл бұрын
BAP deserved better
@misshonda947
5 жыл бұрын
bap and rain got me into kpop and I honestly dont really stan any other kpop group as much as bap.
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