A big thanks to Psyreal for pointing this out to me! I wouldn’t have made this video without their questions!
@貓臉正太
2 жыл бұрын
in my language Chinese, the description of march skin is: improve the march speed when solo attack monster.
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
Yup! I’ve heard. Asian translations seem to be correct. English one isn’t!
@arjunmohan1510
2 жыл бұрын
Another informative video. Thank you. I’ve noticed that after a fiend attack, all the troops march back to the settlements at the same speed. The ones with many march skins activated and the ones who have the few skins all come home together. I knew that something was off 😅
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure, Raymond! Thanks for watching!
@ofcakoid
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jump for this test....was wondering same thing for longer time now
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome! Glad it’s useful to you
@rafaelhernandez4726
2 жыл бұрын
Was looking for this info for a long time, had the same conclusion but needed someone else to confirm. Thank you.
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome, Rafael! 👊🏼
@hotendedly1608
2 жыл бұрын
Well then…. You’re definitely correct on the misleading part… I definitely thought the solo march meant solo attacks… so anything not rally related. Very good info to have.
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
That’s the main thing that frustrates me here. The description is misleading
@hotendedly1608
2 жыл бұрын
@@JUMP for sure…. Not thrilled myself… granted I don’t spend a ton of money to get march skins, but there are a few I’ve fought for 😏
@amethyst_025
2 жыл бұрын
Well that's frustrating 😒 shady shady shady Thanks for testing and figuring this out!
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
🙏🏼🔥
@bRUTALmALICIOUS
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting stuff, thanks for your time testing this. ✌️👍
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
My absolute pleasure! 🤟🏻
@theshore2667
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, really informational and straight to the point. I subbed 💪
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome to hear! 💚
@hidekinimbu751
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your explanation. I'm an SOS player who doesn't really delve into data, so I really think your video is helpful to players to a certain extent. 🙏
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@brandonbarber8668
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm pretty sure someone mentioned it above but the English translation does say the march speed increase is only against infected. Thanks Jump.
@TTH991
2 жыл бұрын
For everyone who has played since the start of the game, it clearly stated in ENGLISH, "increase march speed for solo infected attacks" or something like that. For some reason they changed the description quite a while back. All the old players know that the description is wrong, but for the poor new players who didn't, it really sucks. Anyway, spenders will always get every march skin from any event, they just buy their bundles and the march skin is a bonus for top up that they would habe done anyway.
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
I think this is the perfect analysis. I’ve been playing for well over a year and a half now and I had no idea. It has been passed on to the devs. Hopefully they make it more transparent! Thanks for the great comment, Huan!
@Mist_Ninjutsu
2 жыл бұрын
It's speeds up your March time to join rallies. From your base to the Ally your rallying with. Also to infected which makes Intel overall a much faster experience, also plague zone and the attack the reaper event to cross that long distance. But that's about it....
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
Sure! Never denied that. The point I’m trying to make with this video is descriptions in game. They are incomplete, false or misleading. I’d like to see that changed :)
@Mist_Ninjutsu
2 жыл бұрын
@@JUMP Sure, my comment wasn't to discredit anything you said ❤️
@IKrazeyyHD
2 жыл бұрын
When I do trap the ETA is 17 seconds in war/eco(tested them both) however it is only a 10 second march till it hits.
@kostas_othon
2 жыл бұрын
Jump in the older version it was specific that march skin only apply in infected. It was on the name. So those acts that it will affect is infected, infected friend (rallies), influencer trap, plangue zone and Bunkers only for first occupation. the it will be normal again.
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
Yup, I’ve heard that as well. At some points my they changed it for some reason. Haven’t tested PZ, but bunkers was a clear no. Didn’t work there! Thanks for watching!
@kostas_othon
2 жыл бұрын
@@JUMP you tested in bunkers with the boss monster (first (!!!) occupation) at the start and it did not have an impact? that is new then.
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
@@kostas_othon yup, no effect!
@WHY_SO_MAD511
2 жыл бұрын
Another great video brother 👏 keep the info coming 👍
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Easy! Ps. Contact me on Discord for your membership benefits!
@kursimwundern
2 жыл бұрын
Great test.. But marchskins work only on infected and rallys on them.. First march on bunker will be faster as u attack the zombies that are in Bunker From start.. Every other time, when players are inside march will took Longer, same on every way back.. So evety time u sent March to destiny with zombies inside, skins. Will be active... That skins are used to be faster when doing intel in front of cap.. Or to get the first enter reward at bunker (now all do rallys to share rewards, no one go solo)
@savucri
2 жыл бұрын
Can you test also the other skins? Frame and hq? Is this the same thing were they work?
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
Just did a very simple (maybe too simple test) on infected and it did show that the added value is 2% defense for the frame. To test extensively, I would need two accounts with the exact same stats. Don’t have that unfortunately. If the value is correct, I would have to do a lot of extra testings. Its an interesting idea, but not sure if I’m able to actually test it with the tools I have to my disposal. Will look into it!
@sadeekalazzawi
2 жыл бұрын
Wow, for every appearance event I allocate $60 for it, as well as allocate tickets for it I have to collect it and buy a better briefcase
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
Briefcases for life! 🤣
@sadeekalazzawi
2 жыл бұрын
@@JUMP 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@emerentianameicy9740
2 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for this testing. Have you tried with a longer distance and launch the march for real? My friend tried it with 14 minutes march and there's a difference but very little. You mentioned about porting to the edge of the map but you ended up testing it with targets nearby
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
Hey there! I record audio before I record footage. I tested everything off camera first before recording the actual footage, which is why the audio says ‘Porting to the edge of the map. I can guarantee you that the march skins do not affect march time but towards infected or fiends!
@ulquiorra3504
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information.
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure man!
@sambronn6013
2 жыл бұрын
That’s absolutely insane 🤯😳
@Hemzees
2 жыл бұрын
Damn! Thanks a lot. I almost just spent on skins. This is fraud for the game to seel March skins as improving 5% March speed without specifying which marches it speeds up.
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you didn’t spend 😂
@PierreEklund
2 жыл бұрын
Speed on trap seems to play in imo. The ones who are in the front row differ in speed by a couple of seconds with higher marsh speed.
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
Gonna try it out tomorrow on our trap to get my final opinion on it!
@mouneerg.8221
2 жыл бұрын
Yes it works on trap
@mouneerg.8221
2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't show the Real march time but as soon as the march starts you see a different march time which is way lower if you have lots of march speed skins
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
Can confirm that it works on trap!
@--AB---
2 жыл бұрын
Luckily in French it's clearly said than it's all about infected, though since I've won some (top up events) I've noticed a reduction of my marche time for trap, I've even to wait before to open my rally or I've the sacrified rally and a lot of peoples are sad🤣🤣🤣 That's pretty useful for infected events or notally svs infected phase as ranks change very fast but imo better to not invest for that specifically, for example in skin store or in migo if there's a choice better to go for frames and skin, and to develop migo research for underground explorations since it helps a lot for good rewards in this event but also increase the march time against players, that's the only solution once all others ways are completed😔
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
For sure! Its not useless at all. The point I’m trying to make with the video is misleading descriptions in the game. Its something that happens way too often and tricks people into buying things that do not offer what they think it does!
@--AB---
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, too often this kind of things happen and supports play with words, I'm pretty stubborn so usually I fight until I've some compensation😈🤣 But that doesn't really surprises me to see than they changed the text, look at the shiba inu marche, it was a top up on 5 days, every day you had to buy for 7,5k bios to obtain it so 37,5k bios when usually that's 30k, so to indicate clearly than it will just help you with infected isn't enough to convince peoples to buy, but if description isn't clear then a lot will go for it as that's cute as that helps to attack others settlements even if that's not the case at all ! I really like this game but as all wargames or even games in general with time it's more and more pay to win even if that means using some sneaky ways to make you spend😔
@sven4671
2 жыл бұрын
For Trap you need to see the real march time, when starting march, not in the screen from troops. Its the same by me, it shows in the troop screen something around 50 seconds, when marching it is something between 15-20 seconds. I know it from the beginning, 2 years ago, then it was march bonus for infected, meanwhile they changed it in the Text.
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
Yup, correct. I had that in the original video, but like I said it was completely unusable. Running the test again in two days!
@weegee7831
2 жыл бұрын
@@JUMP so what are the results from trap?
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately wasn’t able to do it yesterday. Next trap it is
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
@@weegee7831 can confirm that it does work on trap!
@caseycarterbooks
8 ай бұрын
Should you obtain the same March Skins you already have (to upgrade if that's possible) or should you just pick them based on personal preferences because they don't upgrade...
@erikb7385
2 жыл бұрын
The real question is are we actually getting the 5% off the time? Obviously it's cutting some time but doesn't seem like 5% to me.
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
I did not test that personally, but I have wondered the same question while doing it. Could be an interesting sub test!
@erikb7385
2 жыл бұрын
@@JUMP I activated one a while back and it was literally one second off the time.
@kostas_othon
2 жыл бұрын
well for Migo the capitol rally march was never accurate so I will not be very much optimistic on that. You can't easily test it though you need to find to point of the map where you have same time with your farm/smaller account and then need to do the math. but try to use an account with one skin with 5% or 8 % v. one acount with none speed march. 5% is not really easy to distinguish. but you need to have the same march time with the slower account so you need to point in the map that have equal and large distance (more than 15 min.)
@erikb7385
2 жыл бұрын
@@kostas_othon personally, I picked a point checked the time and then activated a march skin and checked again. At that time 5% = 1 second in time but i don't recall how far it was now.
@Frazpas
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly as I expected, a misleading description by Kings. The biggest, by far, is the use of % which is simply, not %. An hq skin, for example, does not add 2% attack. It adds 2 points. If your attack is say 200, and you get a new skin, 2% should bring it to 204 points, as 2% of 200 is 4.
@erikb7385
2 жыл бұрын
It's adding 2% to your 200% not 2% of your 200%. You're either misunderstanding or wanting it to do something different.
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
Yup, it’s a +2% on stats in the battle report. To test it properly you would need two identical accounts (one with more frame/skins than the other). I’m not aware of the actual values but as far as I’m aware it’s correct
@greebj
2 жыл бұрын
I tested this way back when I started in 2019. Studied the reports (limited as they were in they old engine) and did a lot of A/B testing Concluded most of the % stats in the game were additive not multipliers Rapid dev talent IS the most powerful exception, a true 20% timer reduction on build and tech
@tareqshikhan5532
2 жыл бұрын
question:- do these skins make a difference in march speed when collecting the pools of spilled water in RR ..??
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
Haven’t tested that. But truly doubt it
@KlaudiaGanancial
2 жыл бұрын
Migo march skins are faster on the initial golgoroth event, compared to the ones that are bought. Just want to share
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
Yup, correct. 8% vs 5%! Thanks Kurdapya!
@dealia7777
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Psyreal!
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
100000%
@ahigg889
2 жыл бұрын
Wow , Thank you for this
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! ☺️
@mindyabusiness520
2 жыл бұрын
thnx for another great video...as usual
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching, Dana! 🖤
@MEOW-sh9qz
2 жыл бұрын
I believe travis works on bunker when you hit it first time. You get less march time with travis. But I tested that long time ago for stealing first reward. I'm not sure if it changed already.
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
Rally is always the same time! Doesn’t matter what hero! Solo time can be reduced by using Daryl :)
@user-wd8vh4ob8s
2 жыл бұрын
If you rally with maxed Daryl does it reduce rally time?
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
@@user-wd8vh4ob8s nope
@othonnogueira2366
2 жыл бұрын
how about frames? i always buying frames, but now im worried about it😅😅
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
As far as Im aware they are fine. Additional 2% buff on your regular research stats. This is based on what we see on reports tho. To really test it you should have two identical accounts attack eachother (one with frames and one without) and draw conclusions from there. That might be for another video 🤣
@othonnogueira2366
2 жыл бұрын
@@JUMP alright. thank you man!
@XxXTheMayorXxX
2 жыл бұрын
🤬 well this is a bit frustrating news
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
Don’t shoot the messenger 😂😬
@XxXTheMayorXxX
2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🫣was just one of those…well shit, I wish I knew this before 138%
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
@@XxXTheMayorXxX You're not alone! Myself included ;)
@raymondadams9714
2 жыл бұрын
I’m in state 178 when do u think it will come out for us
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
Come out what?
@k.g.7645
2 жыл бұрын
Hello Raymond
@christopherrama831
Жыл бұрын
Hi! Can donate a march skin if i purchased 2 of the same. Thank you and more power to your channel!
@someperson4397
2 жыл бұрын
It says solo march speed so I always assumed it was just for infected and attack on players. Bunkers and cap all depends on location. This is a pretty good video because it put a lot to light of how silly KG functions and fools their players
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
Never really thought about it. Think lots of people don’t to be honest
@someperson4397
2 жыл бұрын
@@JUMP I do actually. I do remember some marches are marked solo march speed and some had increases march to infected in their description so how does march speed stack if they offer different speeds . I am not sure if it changed after all this time but I think it was mainly the halloween skins increased infected march times and the rest solo.
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
It used to be like that. But they switched it to this Appearantly. That’s what people told me when I was doing my research
@someperson4397
2 жыл бұрын
Just checked they did infact change all to say solo march speed but again we know KG that may just be a lie so ppl spend while the infected buff is true and not solo march
@someperson4397
2 жыл бұрын
Well thank you again for this .I wanted to post the link on discord but don't want to ruin Easter lol
@mohammadabuhejlih5708
2 жыл бұрын
its work on trap and Plague Zone
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
Didnt test PZ! So, that’s possible actually. Unless I made a mistake during trap, it shouldn’t but I’ll rerun the test on trap in two days. I’ll get back to you here!
@fierolobo1313
2 жыл бұрын
Un vídeo bastante útil. Gracias!!!
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
De nada!
@iammazeyg9536
2 жыл бұрын
what about reservoir raid?
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Mazey! Same situation! No effect
@ld577
2 жыл бұрын
This I already knew
@ld577
2 жыл бұрын
The one thing though with migo it does affect cap march times, you will see a march when u set the rally and a real time actual march time difference. Thar I noticed every svs and capital
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, absolutely! That’s why I specifically stated that I don’t have any MIGO buffs running
@571notoriousr.a.y7
2 жыл бұрын
WOW
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
That was me a couple of days ago 🤣
@571notoriousr.a.y7
2 жыл бұрын
@@JUMP yeah 🤣 this is very misleading though, definitely not spending my skin tickets on them anymore
@garyallan6302
2 жыл бұрын
What about mayhem?
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
Infected should be affected by march skins. Regular marches not
@mythwu4452
2 жыл бұрын
wow
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
😘
@raydominictagab2659
2 жыл бұрын
I have 1 word for that...SCAM
@alissasouza3672
2 жыл бұрын
Scam of Survival!
@martinkliment8171
2 жыл бұрын
Omg it says specifically it works for infected only, lol
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
For me, as non-English speaker: solo march speed does not equal works for infected only. In the Chinese and Vietnamese translations this is true, not in the English one, which a lot of people are using
@martinkliment8171
2 жыл бұрын
@@JUMP KG/FP are bunch of xx I think everyone is aware of that by now:))
@someperson4397
2 жыл бұрын
You clearly did not watch the video , he did mention on certain versions of the game it says speeding up for infected but other versions says " solo march speed " solo means attacks on infected , to tiles, to a player or any march you do solo and not in a rally
@martinkliment8171
2 жыл бұрын
@@someperson4397 How many brain cells you have, lol With first or second one everyone should notice or they deserve what they get, or actually don't get
@minge9
2 жыл бұрын
English is off because the English speaking world simply has more purchasing power..
@setsunarehaf
2 жыл бұрын
Omg I got tricked too....
@JUMP
2 жыл бұрын
😂 they recently implemented the right description in the game ;)
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