Barbarian should just be able to pick up dead players and swing them around like a weapon.
@christianlandgrave5796
Ай бұрын
Why should they have to be dead? I want to throw a living player around.
@hydrus5252
Ай бұрын
pick up a goblin body and throw it at people instead of francisca axes!! that would be dope ahah
@jeffersonderrickson5371
Ай бұрын
@@hydrus5252 only axe or bolo bois. Keep it in flavor.
@mattheller5131
Ай бұрын
this would be terrifying and i would become a barb main
@greysongiles6752
Ай бұрын
See , they won’t do that because that would be fun
@TheDantsu
29 күн бұрын
75% of my deaths as ranger come from a shirtless sweaty barb
@Tarkuaf
Ай бұрын
TL;DR: Balanced doesnt mean fun, but that doesnt mean fun cant be balanced. The game can be balanced to classes being even in power, but that doesn't mean every interaction is balanced unfortunately. Everybody knows which skills/abilities are unfun to interact with (landmines, phantomizing, etc.), and it would be nice to see some of the "subjectively unfun" playstyles get target nerfed and have that power reallocated to other parts of the class' kit, other perks/skills/stats/weapon stats and such.
@jimjimson6208
Ай бұрын
I think this is what they were going for with the torture mastery nerfs and demon mode buffs with warlock. Unfortunately I don't think warlock will ever be fun to play against
@Tarkuaf
Ай бұрын
@@jimjimson6208 imagine if they addressed the actual problem(phantomize). Nerf it. Then you can look at the rest of his kit like torture mastery It's ok if warlock heals, but imagine he really had to pay for it. Maybe torture mastery shouldn't just have costs trippled (which is exponentially more irrelevant the better your gear and magic healing), but instead add a cooldown to warlock spells? Thus incentivising you to do something else in the downtime of your curse of pain while still giving you good healing. Thus being a buff to hybrid/melee OR a warlock that uses all of their spells and needs more spell knowledge. Idk, there are so many ways to make those classes more interesting, without directly nerfing them and sometimes even just buffing more fun styles
@jimjimson6208
Ай бұрын
@@Tarkuaf they should just delete phantomise tbh
@Tarkuaf
Ай бұрын
@@jimjimson6208 i honestly see a world where phantomize still ghosts you, but allows you to take dmg despite moving through hitboxes. Maybe a shorter version with more speed, thus making it less ideal for casters (cause they already at max speed) and more ideal for hybrids (so they can close gap). Which is more interactive
@Mitril47
29 күн бұрын
There is one way to survive stepping in a ranger trap. Bring a halberd and two-tap the ranger when he tries to spear you. That is the only way.
@Memes-xk8nc
Ай бұрын
thank you for your honest opinion that the barbarian is truly the weakest class in the game, especially now. Honestly, I thought that the barbarian was one of the best characters, but after playing high roll on exemplar I felt how weak he is. You can't do anything against really good PDR figters, or PDR clerics, especially if you don't have the maneuvering space to move away after the second wind etc. The barbarian class is not about agility or dexterity and 20-30% PDR. I don't think he needs ranged combat, I think he needs really good active skills and passive ones as well. The choice of passive skills is literally limited to one, you are forced to take robust, crush and chugger. From the active ones you must take rage and tendon cutting, otherwise you have no chance. Not to mention that you have to sit like a rogue and wait for your enemy in the dark and wait for the best moment to attack. This is nonsense, just like the barbarian's active skills with health or defense penalties. You are also forced to fill your inventory with rubbish like Francis axes, bandages and potions. Highroll for a barbarian in solo turns into a rat race. They should additionally add a slowdown to savage roar, at least a small one as an alternative to tendon cutting with a weaker slowdown but damage reduction.
@Terran0va_Plays
Ай бұрын
Barb is weaker because ranged is broken right now
@chickenbob562
17 күн бұрын
some time ago i was so scared of barbs now (in solos at least) im glad when i encounter a barb, because they are very easy to outplay especially when kiting with a bow sometimes i feel bad
@trcoot117
Ай бұрын
Good points! Would love to see how tierlists would turn out if given more specific scopes: Low / High GS Solo / Duo / Trio Skill Floor / Ceiling
@ShesCaked
Ай бұрын
if people dont think wizard is S tier i have genuine concerns.... shits broken
@Pvt-Lenny
Ай бұрын
@@ShesCaked right now ye. Before buff it was A. Ofc in the hands the hands of competent players only. 80% of wizards are dogwater
@Terran0va_Plays
Ай бұрын
Wizard is really good. but then again, ranged in general is pretty damn strong on every class
@zaikolebolsh5724
26 күн бұрын
Wizard is just as good as the player is, in full gear i got slammed by green ones and in basically squire kit i got a full purple wizard with grimsmiles in a fight that lasted about 7 minutes, he only hit me once with the ice spell(cant remember the name). I respect every wizard for either the skill they could represent or the balls they have to waste their time learning that class. Edit: all of this as a fighter
@Pvt-Lenny
25 күн бұрын
@@zaikolebolsh5724 Yea. playing defense vs a wizard if you got a bow or crossbow is easy af. People just never played wizard when they claim its broken. They literally only have to hit 1 or 2 ranged attacks and that wizard is gonna run the other way. in S1 we used to get one-tapped by longbow rangers in the head with BIS on. Even back then people said it was an op class...
@zaikolebolsh5724
25 күн бұрын
@@Pvt-Lenny damn, anything that oneshots is really unfair, good thing that they fixed that
@edgardsimon9623
Ай бұрын
For all people saying wizard is a range class i would argu its not that much range and thats what make it difficult, u have low health, low speed and u have to play well in mid range thats why its hard
@wiks50
Ай бұрын
If Warlock was to be reworked, I think he should be put slightly more in line with cleric and wizard in a sense. Make his spells stronger again like before the nerfs, but with every spell casted the cost in health increases which can be brought back down by resting, somewhat like getting charges back on wizard and cleric
@MakivPoli5592
Ай бұрын
What, that would make it like a wizard but.... worse. I think it will be MORE interesting if they make warlock like a "melee mage" or like a shortmaster mage, using crystal sword like his main weapon with spells like the flame sword thing that wizard have, i think you get the point.
@wiks50
Ай бұрын
@@MakivPoli5592 true, that would set them apart a little bit more for a more unique playstyle. Perhaps if Curse of Pain instead of dealing instant damage, would increase physical damage taken by an enemy. Would be interesting if Warlock was more about debuffs then going in for the kill in melee, rather than just running away while spamming Curse of Pain
@Terran0va_Plays
Ай бұрын
I think that is sorcerers job when he comes out
@DamienCloud
Ай бұрын
I really want to find another to solve this that isn't "sit on the ground and do nothing for 30seconds" anything else please, that alone doesn't make me want to play wizard, the down time is already overwhelming in this game
@tacticaltactability
27 күн бұрын
@@DamienCloud meditation takes like 5 seconds
@milanmottl8983
Ай бұрын
Weird to se the barb being the worst... I honestly like it more than rogue or cleric.... probably depends on the playstyle you prefer. BTW that feeling when someone is trying to kill you and you just turn one-shot them in the head.... priceless.
@awgmax
Ай бұрын
Warlock players are the biggest copers saying their class is not that good. No other class mains try to defend it as much as Warlock players do.
@Terran0va_Plays
Ай бұрын
Warlock is my secondary class and literally only because it’s so easy. So when i die a few times on my main and get frustrated i switch to lock to calm down lol. Class it too strong
@sdunned7842
Ай бұрын
I’m a warlock main and I literally emailed ironmace to nerf the hydra heal and they responded to me and a week later they nerfed it 😅.. even I knew that sh*t was too op. It’s still op even after the nerf. The main problem is it’s not great at anything. It’s good at everything though. Like pdr fighters and barbs win at melee, wizards still two shot them even though they have the most magic resist in the game. (They really need to fix that.) and same with archers.. basically every class does more dps than the warlock.. the only reason warlock is op is hydra heal and hit-scan curse of pain.. he has great utility, probably the best utility in the game; but damn are his stats HORRIBLE. It’s night and day difference when I play something like barb or fighter, or wizard, I kill people twice as fast, and I’m either faster or tankier. Warlock REALLY shines in trios if you can drag the fight on, but with new heal buffs, not so much. But I think now warlock is in a good spot. Jump over the hydra and watch them squirm in agony as you send a long sword down their throat, or jiggle around and crouch and watch them miss every curse of pain and basically lose 30% health for free. If you’re good at the game, warlock is no problem, you run through warlocks, but if you’re looking for a fair fight, you’re not going to get one, expect them to play like a rogue, except they can heal like a cleric, and use utility like a Druid. Basically all three of the most annoying classes combined.. I’m sorry for the agony we cause you brother.. see you in the dungeon. I personally HATE kiting warlocks, I either use demon armor, or BOC, or some sort of hybrid build..
@derekgunnels4856
27 күн бұрын
These people get it. Lock crushed pve, but they lose dps to any other class. That's why plate warlock or demon form are basically memes. You still lose to any melee DPS and doubly lose to ranged kiting classes. Warlock's only real viable play style is move speed caster and either phantomize or boc. Even then other kiting classes or melee win if they out speed you. Warlock is good but their only big advantages are healing and pve abuse. Granted very strong, but they'll still lose to other players unless they out gear and out play them. They're comparable to Druids without a bear form but much more convenient healing and better pve.
@mikeymike2524
16 күн бұрын
Conclusion this game is the most balanced it’s ever been
@Bartlett152
Ай бұрын
Barbarian is really good for under 25 and it seems your twitch chat is emotionally scarred from it. It's crap in higher tier, you need a substantial skill or gear diff to make up for it.
@DaDinkler
Ай бұрын
Weapon mastery should just have a big action speed penalty for ranged weapons imo
@Terran0va_Plays
Ай бұрын
Some kind of penalty. Action speed is lore accurate and a good capability nerf. I think thats a decent solution
@Gary_The_Metro
Ай бұрын
That would just buff the kiting meta. Right now bows are the only way to counterplay endless kiting meta. unless they fix that, nerfing bows for fighters isn't really a good call. Hell, if they fixed the kiting meta and said no more bows at all for fighters I wouldn't even complain.
@fawnphoenix9329
Ай бұрын
As Current barb main, move speed is more important than any other stat. Just build as light as possible, get lightfoot boots and agi gear you barely need any damage buffs to wipe out someone in two or three hits consistanly. All that matters is your health, buff duration (secret bis) and action speed from their. For low hear lobbies lizard can help alot for move speed, but in highgear a helmet is almost always better.
@user-hg4lq9mc8c
21 күн бұрын
"Blue decks are fun" "Rogues are like mono red" Based MtG takes from a DaD streamer
@nydak522
Ай бұрын
8:03 ignite on any front liner whether they have will or not is huge, if you send ur pdr fighter into another pdr fighter the ignite is going to do that extra little bit of damage that will most likely win the trade
@prestonstudley1012
Ай бұрын
Turbo mardu dihada has no issues with blue (either win in 4 turns or lose)
@awgmax
Ай бұрын
So what you're saying is the game is pretty balanced.
@Terran0va_Plays
Ай бұрын
It kind of is. Ppl say it’s imba because the game can be frustrating. But ppl saying imba just haven’t learned how to play matchups different and just play everything exactly the same. So that play style gets crushed by a specific class. Then they run to reddit
@TheRealOfficialGator
29 күн бұрын
Panther druid S tier hands down. Druid got “nerfed” meaning the treant is basically not worth it. However, the infinite heals plus 180 dps with a full agility kit is kinda cracked
@ANTIFASUPERSOLDIER999
28 күн бұрын
I also play spellsword in every game, now in this game I’ve been playing euthafro’s hybrid boc warlock build and I love it
@crayz2510
Ай бұрын
Warlock should debuff the enemy then fight them not perma curse them
@Terran0va_Plays
Ай бұрын
I like that idea
@Zistac7
Ай бұрын
They can though. It's actually strong.. just no one does it. Warlock has access to all of the best melee weapons in the game excluding rapier. If you get a little bit of ranged poke on a barbarian and a throw a hydra behind them, you can proc blow of corruption and go in and 1-2 tap them with a bardiche to finish them off.. or a halberd, or a longsword, or a falchion. They are already a pretty decent ranged/melee hybrid class... people just never bothered learning how to play it because they could curse spam and kill people for free with 0 skill
@derekgunnels4856
27 күн бұрын
@@Zistac7 hitting every curse takes skill like any ranged class, but I get the frustration of move speed meta
@Zistac7
27 күн бұрын
@@derekgunnels4856 I guess technically, sure, but it is infinitely easier than on any other class... except maybe wizard now that they have buffed it an insane amount and get rewarded for spamming aoe damage instead of precise and skillful play
@TheGriff130
Ай бұрын
100% casters have gotta be the hardest to play and the best if played well it should be that way. With the new damage buffs kinda feeling a bit silly
@Terran0va_Plays
Ай бұрын
All ranged classes do too much damage. Not enough skill expression
@TheGriff130
Ай бұрын
@terrandysart3587 ima disagree, damage just needs to be slightly adjusted. It should hurt to get hit by skillshots and range but the wizard splash buff and the burning damage after is what needs to be tuned down they should be rewarded if they land zap after zap on you but having so much reward for splash damage is not cool
@knightsresttavern
Ай бұрын
Regardless of tier, every class has rat tactics. Anyone can cook with any class if they know what they're doing.
@user-yv1vn2wy8t
Ай бұрын
true
@zyro3133
14 күн бұрын
to be honest some should be lower like imo the 2 worst are rogue and barb and the 3 best are cleric, bard, and warlock and fighter is tied for 3rd
@Gary_The_Metro
Ай бұрын
Honestly the person suggesting throwing spears for the barbarian might be onto something. Be hard to balance but at least the barbarian wouldn't suck so much at range. But then the problem is game would quickly devolve into more ranged kiting... which isn't a great thing.
@KingIngramII
Ай бұрын
I really think they need to rework warlock into being Anti-heal. If Cleric and Druid heals are really strong, let warlock and fire mastery wizards counter it. Rogue needs mobility and applicable debuffs, they need to be quick and agile, not invisible
@masonlazy2740
Ай бұрын
making a general tier list is HELLA hard. cuz a character can be S in solo but be B in trio.
@freezymays
Ай бұрын
Ever since I started playing most of my playtime was on Warlock and I confidently can say its rather a low or middle A rn. Even before nerfs, if u wanted to build a decent amount of movement speed for it, usually u need to sacrifice a decent amount of will/knowlage (esp in mid tier gear). With the torture mastery nerf you need much more magical healing to make it viable (and ofc if u dont have mobs around u its basically useless) and hydra drain is just not worth using as of rn. Unless u are in actually very decent bis its not that great and I also very rarely see them in trios and even duos. The main reason I can see ppl who dont rly play the class putting it to S tier is because of using phantomise and just going behind mobs to get away but if we are at that part, Druid is just much better at getting away anyway. But aside from that, basically every class is in the same 2 tiers, which proves there isnt actually any "broken" class in the game rn as some creators click baiting that term after every single minor changes, there are only "broken" players.
@throwdownthecrown7244
Ай бұрын
make warlock a spell sword i agree. but dont make them need a perk for armor.
@awgmax
Ай бұрын
Barbarian has the highest skill floor, and is very good in low GS. Savage, axe mastery and robust and and all you need is some green lightfoots.
@Zistac7
Ай бұрын
Eh I wouldn't say they have the highest skill floor. It's very punishing on barbarian if you miss an attack or go in .1 seconds too late or early. Franciscas are also the slowest projectile weapon in the game so your aim and prediction needs to be very good. I think fighter is much more forgiving thanks to having much higher action speed, an easy to use heal ability, and the best speed buff in the game. They have access to weapons with better attack patterns too as well as ranged options. Ranger is pretty low skill floor too. I main barb, fighter, and ranger and I think barb takes the most skill to play well tbh. But yeah it's strong in sub 25 and easy to kill bad players with.
@fynk01
Ай бұрын
I think that the game is very well balanced this time around.
@jeraora3045
Ай бұрын
omg B for barbarian ... sadge im maining that class this season.
@Xyanthium3889
Ай бұрын
Ranger should be in b if not c tier right now specifically cause of the fighter buff and barb should be c or d tier they are just outshined by every class right now.
@warm_egg_salad5953
Ай бұрын
I know I'm probably a minority, but I dislike the survival bow unless I'm playing ranger. I'm a fighter main and play dex build with arming sword or mace with any of the shields and bring either longbow or windlass for the high single shot dmg in case someone runs after pressure from melee.
@stephenparker31
28 күн бұрын
Fighters weapon mastery should allow you to use hunting traps.
@voodooed01
26 күн бұрын
if they gave barbarian a heroic leap to close gaps they would be S tier.
@sdunned7842
Ай бұрын
Barb is S tier across the board.. geared, un geared, solos, duo’s, trios, sunny, rainy, doesn’t matter, the only reason a barbarian loses is they ran into a hard counter like a kite, or they played bad.. if you do everything right you will NEVER lose as a barb.. you can maybe say the same for cleric but cleric is slow.. barb can just press W M1 and if you don’t run from him you will lose.
@frost3533
Ай бұрын
Not true at all, but go off
@sdunned7842
Ай бұрын
@@frost3533 gets one shotted in the knees by a bardiche. “Yea that’s balanced.”
@sdunned7842
Ай бұрын
I hit him 6 times in the head with a kris dagger, he hits me once in the knees.. gg I guess. Lol.
@joaomatos9207
Ай бұрын
How about making ur own tier list and comparing it to the community tier list
@TheRealOfficialGator
29 күн бұрын
I find cleric very fun for pve, but for pvp it’s too slow. Sure we have judgment now….if you can get close enough to USE judgment.
@joeligma9822
21 күн бұрын
With the Druid buff yesterday Druid is easy A
@justafella8896
Ай бұрын
I often find as i'm practicing in sub 25 as a fighter that barbarians give me the most trouble since they have the most bang for their buck with stats and perks. I usually can't kite them as their actually quite speedy and when they do i'm two shot. Any advice for dealing with barbarian faceroll?
@flatfacekennelclub3020
Ай бұрын
barbs have a 330 ms kit that lets them run 330ms with a felling axe out they can catch any class in the game so to say they cant is silly
@agrocreepers7710
Ай бұрын
i've been playing a phontomize plate warlock i run BOC with a kriss and shield and a halberd as a secondary its been going nicely
@Skooma_Addict42
Ай бұрын
Here is my pvp list maybe some hot takes in there no class feels very weak honestly unless you play real cheese landmine rogue feels like the current weakest with non stop nerfs and honestly I like it that way screw dying to that shit Barb S Bard A Ranger B Warlock C Wizard S Rogue C Druid C Fighter B Cleric A
@christianlandgrave5796
Ай бұрын
I don’t think this tier list has changed since you streamed this. Fighter is definitely stronger than before, but still A tier unless you want to put bard into S+ tier. Maybe wizard went from A to S though.
@fynk01
Ай бұрын
"if you are good at wizard" shouldn't influence the ranking IMO. If you are good with your class every class can be S-Tier in my opinion.
@PsychoMachado
25 күн бұрын
I think the point is skill ceiling and tools available. Casters tend to have more tools at their disposal than non-casters.
@Zistac7
29 күн бұрын
You can move barbarian down to C tier now :)
@DoctorSargeMD
23 күн бұрын
Why?
@GAMER36014
Ай бұрын
Rogue being anything above c is crazy...
@GAMER36014
Ай бұрын
Ok now that I've seen the full tier list this is really not good. People's perception is apparently a critical miss 1.
@Bulkvar
27 күн бұрын
Bard main here: I dont give a shite
@sliqqy..
Ай бұрын
Hmmm after taking this into consideration, let’s nerf barb. (Rip my bardiche cheese warlock)
@willingbob
Ай бұрын
Hello again, father.
@Terran0va_Plays
Ай бұрын
I think there is way too much focus on ranged combat right now. It encourages running/kiting infinitely which is 0% fun to play against and only frustrating. Look at all the strongest classes. Huge access to ranged capabilities. Bow fighter, ranger, wizard, warlock sort of. Any other class is suffering. Combat needs a shift. I don’t know the answer, but ranged needs to at the very least do 15-25% less damage on all fronts. You should be rewarded for closing the gap. Melee should ALWAYS do more damage As for druid, (have to comment as a druid main) i agree with druid being A tier IF and ONLY if, druid could shapeshift a little more reliably. Druid takes time to get good at but once you learn it it has alot of versatility. Doing everything ok. But nothing great. They iust need to fix the buggy shapeshifting. I mean if you’re standing on a pebble you sometimes cant get out of rat form. Or cant get in to bear form even in an open room because of a tiny elevstion difference. He’s in a weird spot because in solo he feels not very strong at all. But in teams he’s very strong. Idk how to fix that. (Sude note, twitch voting is way more reliable than youtube. Coming from someone who doesn’t watch twitch and almost exclusively uses youtube for content. Id put more weight into twitch votes.)
@MarshallDTeach-hp8ue
Ай бұрын
OUFFFF MY FINGERS STANK
@Don-Swanson
Ай бұрын
People say warlock is op because TM is the most annoying thing in game to play against. Whereas hybrid melee warlock is one of the most interesting builds to play and to play against, but for some reason they keep nerfing the melee capabilities just because kris is strong. Remove the instant damage on CoP please god, I've been playing with dark bolt/BsB and demon and its not terrible but running into a TM spamming lock just reveals how much weaker hybrid lock is. Just playing fighter with surv bow and any melee is a much better hybrid option rn.
@sheeshee69420
Ай бұрын
w tier list
@colezeller4861
Ай бұрын
Wish I could actually find the game fun again. I miss playtest 1 horribly bad
@joshk6642
Ай бұрын
To be honest I think Barbarian is better since the healing buffs, with potion chugger he basically has constant Second Wind. Just watch Dimo's videos.
@Xyanthium3889
Ай бұрын
They are better now but still the worst class fighter and cleric just walk them down right now with no challenge.
@hobgobbling
16 күн бұрын
lmao rogues are like combo decks. if they have the combo (landmine) then you're just fucked, but otherwise you're just very annoyed avoiding their combo
@urbangent253
Ай бұрын
In no way is Warlock S Tier after every Warlock playstyle was nerfed back to back. I might be able to give you A tier
@justafella8896
Ай бұрын
I think it's because they can just go full movespeed and spam curses. As long as they can keep running and land curses you'll just eventually die to them. Though the second you catch them out they're generally fucked. But even then they can just phantomize and reset the fight and use mobs as healing pots.
@Don-Swanson
Ай бұрын
@@justafella8896 You could make this argument (a valid one) against every single ranged class. Especially after the healing item buffs. Sure wizard technically has a limit to their spells but if they're kiting you they have 6 fireballs, 6(maybe more) ice bolts, 10 zaps, etc. Sure there's a limit somewhere but when you die to 3 ice bolts it doesn't matter. Same with rangers carrying 80 arrows. Your argument isn't about warlocks its about ranged meta, which is atrocious for sure.
@viktor1master
Ай бұрын
had decent rogue build only to die to naked barbarian on 2 hits why they nerfed rogue sou bad jesus
@WilderQ
Ай бұрын
the fact that people think rogue is c or d tier in trios has me worried. Apparently few people have seen a good rogue.
@Goshjij
Ай бұрын
Yeah double rouge warlock or double warlock rogue is absolute cancer 😐
@Mooselad0394
Ай бұрын
Rogues are basically useless in a traditional 3 man comp
@Xyanthium3889
Ай бұрын
With the fighter buff rouges are useless in trios and with the change to looting bodies they cant steal loot during a fight like they used to rouges suck right now in anything but solos. Btw i have yet to die to a rogue after the fighter buff i can out tank and out damage a rouge plus i as fast as one.
@squash6822
Ай бұрын
Most rogue players are dog shit is the reason why all they do is rat and not actually play the class even then other classes are mostly better
@WilderQ
Ай бұрын
A geared rogue can have close to 100 armor pen and 3-4 shot 80% pdr fighter. It's all about timing and catching 1 guy. Rogue has the ability to make the fight a 3v2 and basically just win the fight for the team.
@yunshang-j9b
Ай бұрын
wizard sss bro
@dundundadadun
Ай бұрын
Barb is best class in low gear score lobbies and the worst class in the game in high gear score.
@mattheller5131
Ай бұрын
If i see a barb throw a big ass 2 handed axe, im out. I came to play dnd, not dead by daylight with jason fucking voorhes lol
@TGlizzard
Ай бұрын
Warlock s tier😭😭😭 hell no he’s annoying yea but that’s it
@stoicHolcan
Ай бұрын
In this current patch, this late into the wipe? Fighter and bard are S, surv bow and true magic reigns supreme Cleric wizard barb are A, cheap to gear and run lobbies Warlock, rogue are B, good for farming and questing ranger is C, but possible S if you have elite level aim Druid is D, almost unpickable
@seiferzm1046
Ай бұрын
for real, i dont understand most of the things in this tier list, people's stuck saying warlock and druid are hella strong after being nerferd like 3 or 4 times lmao
@Odyssey636
Ай бұрын
You both are delusional. Warlock reigns by 5x over any class but bard. Only bard is even close. You could remove every single thing from warlock but phantomize and its still better than every class. That one skill is more powerful then anything else in the game. Free get out of jail every 30 seconds.
@jacvand
Ай бұрын
Move barb down a tier at least. Barb is literally only good in ungeared lobbies right now. Once you're running actual gearsets barb has a disadvantaged matchup against the majority of classes in the game rn
@Odyssey636
Ай бұрын
@jacvand yeah people dont get it doesnt matter how hard u hit, you swing too slow so unless u run one handed horseman, u get out dpsed against all other 1hs in geared lobbies
@seiferzm1046
Ай бұрын
@@Odyssey636 what is bro talking about
@CzarnyWilk95
Ай бұрын
Poor druid players
@leftsidebandit2870
Ай бұрын
People that think wizard is S tier clearly dont play wizard. Im sorry sparky but every situation you explained for wizard is what bad wizards do, it takes 4 head shot ice bolts to kill a full pdr fighter. Wizard is not good it is better that what it was but wizard is still C tier with out a doubt.
@soapdogger
Ай бұрын
lol
@Mooselad0394
Ай бұрын
Bro you’re insane, wizards dominate trios and are unmatched by every other class. They are the opposite of rogues, very strong in 3’s but lack support in solos so they fall short. You must be a solo player
@yougottalight
Ай бұрын
@@leftsidebandit2870 😂
@carey2scarey
Ай бұрын
@@leftsidebandit2870 lmao sure
@andresnyman580
Ай бұрын
Bro is coping hard any class that has an easy time going for movespeed with ranged damage and an answer to pdr is s tier. Just because it's hard to play well doesn't change that it's powerful.
@wingchunFTW
Ай бұрын
after the nerf who ever thinks that cleric is s tier in solos he dont know how to counter him,other than that it makes ense teh rest of the tier list
@öeshçs
Ай бұрын
You are on point my guy.
@Odyssey636
Ай бұрын
How can u have a tierlist with 80% of the classes being in one tier? I guess the game is perfectly balanced almost 😂😂
@MrSupedoSpade
Ай бұрын
The game is in a damn great balance. As long as you build properly, anyone can cook on any class. I play all the classes and have a blast. Its rarely "oh wow that was bullshit"
@christianlandgrave5796
Ай бұрын
@@MrSupedoSpadeEh.. bard, cleric, and warlock are pretty bullshit to fight. I’d rather fight a 70% pdr fighter with rondel dagger than any decent bard. Bard will 2-3 tap a 200 hp barbarian while strafing at the speed of light. Cleric can 2-3 tap a 200 hp barb as well and is a fking cleric.. and warlock is warlock. I know part of the reason they seem so strong is because barbarian is particularly bad right now, but still… bard is just insanely overtuned as is cleric.. although the cleric issue is more of a morningstar issue than a cleric issue
@Xyanthium3889
Ай бұрын
@@christianlandgrave5796bro you must be facing the worst fighters then cause fighter is op right now after the last buff
@öeshçs
Ай бұрын
@@christianlandgrave5796 Cleric in duos and trios are pretty BiS but in solos a good class with range (literally every class except barb at this point) can cook you easily. Even if you play full magic cleric you dont catch people thats just a straight facts. I hit demigod with cleric in solos and it was pain in the ass pvping against good players that know how to space themselves. I would add a tier A+ and put cleric and warlock in that
@öeshçs
Ай бұрын
Since this is a tier list for average players I would say cleric belongs S in this tier list but in high level it is not the best
@agrocreepers7710
Ай бұрын
wizard is s tier in PVP but is c teir at mob clear
@Bossxx88
Ай бұрын
the fukin wrost list ever made
@robforskinstein
Ай бұрын
Oh look more rogue hate from bad players lol
@Schirou
Ай бұрын
Welp now warlock b tier barb and wiz s tier
@christianlandgrave5796
Ай бұрын
Barb is the only class that hasn’t gotten a buff since he did this stream..
@wertyjr4
Ай бұрын
Bro Warlock isn't S tier lmao. It's outclassed by every other class especially with how potent the current consumables are. Abysmal spell damage and high costs for any of the subpar spells, with kits that are through the roof just to match cheap kits on other classes. Gotta disagree with you on that, maybe before the consumables change they'd be considered A to high B, but warlock is doodoo for being the "sustain" class. Outclassed in damage by wizard and outclassed in sustain by a potion. Rough time playing that class rn ngl. The ONLY thing it excels at is easy PvE clears, which doesn't matter because surviving PvP is everything in this game.
@CasshernCasshern
Ай бұрын
survining pvp is king in this game while warock is the best class to survive in this game due to phantomize and hydra block,so s tier it is
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