Watched it all, but I don't have a miata nor need a power steering delete :D
@showtaito1075
7 жыл бұрын
VtecasTV education
@paulofoliveira
7 жыл бұрын
+1 here 👍😀
@hiddenkard3101
7 жыл бұрын
Me too bro. I own a G35 and a 3000GT GTO. Both have heavy as shit steering already. The G35 is worse lol. At first i thought they had power steering problems. But the previous 3000GT owner told me sport cars have heavy steering because they give better stability at high speed and better accuracy when cornering. So i didn't bother asking about the G35 lol I know it has a 350z rack so it heavy as shit. Btw it might be better for sport driving racing but in parking lots it's a pain lol No your economy car with it light playstation like steering wheel is not a sports car. Talking to you corolla and cavalier owners with wings and muffler deletes lol
@ore0690
6 жыл бұрын
same lol
@grahameverett2676
4 жыл бұрын
Same except I have a Miata but it’s a base
@diegoarteaga166
8 жыл бұрын
underrated channel for the quality and work that goes into each video.
@TheCarPassionChannel
8 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@pawpatina
8 жыл бұрын
#fact
@joshuachandra6677
8 жыл бұрын
TheCarPassionChannel most definitely thank you for your time and efforts
@suicideshifting3765
6 жыл бұрын
Diego Arteaga agreed! 🙏🏼
@_Gingium_
8 жыл бұрын
You've made me change my mind! Definitely going to do this on myn, just went through a steering class at school where we took apart multiple racks so im relatively confident at doing it!
@TheCarPassionChannel
8 жыл бұрын
You got this!
@TeunS133N
8 жыл бұрын
i love how the Engineers of Mazda made it so Easy to fix or modify the car! Always have fun working om the miata
@MorbidKitKat1
8 жыл бұрын
greg b so smart
@shoopdawooplazars
8 жыл бұрын
its the Miata legend himself! Mr.Rice!
@koolerthanapolarbear
8 жыл бұрын
greg, your videos are fuckin top notch, so much good info... each one with a dollop internet humor. i dont even own a miata, but these videos are great to watch! keep up the great work
@TheCarPassionChannel
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@MyOpinionMatterss
8 жыл бұрын
I prob will never do this but watched the vid anyway because it was entertaining. :)
@drazlek
8 жыл бұрын
You're tutorial videos are top notch. I replaced my water pump, seals and what not, all thanks to your video. Great quality and to the point. Wish your style was more widespread.
@goodeggproductions
7 жыл бұрын
I want to thank you so much for this video. I just picked up a second NA and somebody borked the steering rack really bad. This gives me all the confidence to get in there, pull the rack and disassemble it to see if I can't rebuild it, and if not, at least get a replacement rack to make my steering possible again. I love KZitem and some of the contributors and content creators.
@pawpatina
8 жыл бұрын
did it. would never go back. the power gain is not much, but noticeable.... only thing i would have done different (like i did) is take the inner tie rods off while the rack is still on the car. much easier to do AND you don't have to adjust the inner/outer again. and the adjuster nut doesn't need to removed and then you don't have to readjust it. lastly, you didn't weld the steering shaft, it has slop in it and is way noticeable when reassembled. you will have a dead spot of almost an inch or two in the steering if you don't weld it. cool dog!
@jaredkerchner5744
Ай бұрын
I know this is rather old at this point but there is also a quill spring in the pinion shaft that allows the hydraulic spool valve to send fluid to the ram. If you want maximum feed back then the quill spring needs to be shimmed or welded so all the slop in the linkage is taken up and made solid.
@alexchulzhanov
5 жыл бұрын
I deleted my power steering, this video was super helpful and the car handles like a dream! One thing I would recommend is dialing down the caster when doing this, the same amount of caster you would want with power steering makes it very difficult to steer without it. I have about 3.5 degrees of caster (instead of 5-6 degrees) and it is much easier to steer now and still tracks straight on its own.
@Nasonix2
2 жыл бұрын
The real question is how well does it still counter steer on it's own when you take away that much castor... You want the steering to be able to find center on it's own if you experience oversteer and loose grip of the wheel, You don't always have perfect memory of where to turn towards after the wheel spins out of control from your grip. But with 5+ degrees of castor, you don't have to worry much about it because it will counter steer it self back straight.
@letommy5431
5 жыл бұрын
Did you do anything with the p/s pump after de-powering the rack?
@judsonchatham5102
4 жыл бұрын
Throw it away
@bakedandsteaked
4 жыл бұрын
@@judsonchatham5102 don't do this, sell it. Or put it on Miata forums and someone would probably pay to have you ship it to them
@ryenjarvis300
8 жыл бұрын
Dude I was just thinking about doing this and was like "man I wish Greg would make a vid..." low and behold! Boom! Here it is. I love you.
@KookiDowg
4 жыл бұрын
I've done this steering rack conversion on an Rx7 FC and a 4th gen Prelude and I have to say it is hands down my favorite "mod". Probably not too much on the Prelude since its a heavier chassis but being able to feel the road helps me to know how to reenact to certain instances. Cant wait to do this on my Miata when I get it this July!
@foxbodygarageamerica9382
7 жыл бұрын
Greg very impressive and that's coming from a mustang guy with megasquirt ..would like too see you do more tuning videos with megasquirt ...also those maitas look like a lot of fun I may even build after my bracket car is all tuned and track ready .. need a street toy for everyday fun ..
@kazimahsan3456
4 жыл бұрын
So one thing i thought of to make the centering part easier (idk if it actually works, curious to hear input) what if when you remove the rack you have it at full lock in one direction. That way you just need to put it at full lock in that direction.
@MiataMods
8 жыл бұрын
such a awesome video Greg! I really like that you go all technical.. I really learned something and for that I thank you! Keep those videos comming!
@ma96782
4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the tip.......on using a LARGE CRESENT WRENCH (I purchased the 18" model from HF) to hold the body of the power steering rack, while removing the nut from the tie rod. Yup......that one (along with your step by step instructions) saved my bacon today while taking it apart to do the conversion.
@shaneeickmeier6213
8 жыл бұрын
Greg, if you still have the 2 short steering rack hard lines ? I am in desperate need of them. I will pay for all the shipping and throw you some cash as well. let me know. Much appreciated, thanks.
@TheCarPassionChannel
8 жыл бұрын
The hard lines in the video? Yep still got em, shoot me an email thecarpassionchannel at gmail dot com
@jmgaudiovideoinc2553
6 жыл бұрын
Hey. great videos. love the channel. I'm about to do this on my track car. Just curious is there any reason you didn't weld the pinion like a lot of others do?
@sebastianherpst449
4 жыл бұрын
I was wondering this also, why would you or why would you not do this?
@unknown1creature
8 жыл бұрын
please do a video on how the car feels now, I've heard missed reviews when it comes to people getting rid of power steering.
@TheCarPassionChannel
8 жыл бұрын
I've had Miatas with and without. It really comes down to personal preference, I like both on the track and the street. I definitely prefer no power steering if I have the choice. The Miata is very light so it's not to hard to drive at all, even with big sticky tires.
@dizzycyclist
8 жыл бұрын
coool video, but i think i'll just leAve my power steering in place for now. 'cos, not a race car, more Urban whip.
@Stevethe11th
8 жыл бұрын
So what exactly is the benifit to depowering a power steering rack?
@utubeaccess7
5 жыл бұрын
Huge forearms
@lukeclark3623
5 жыл бұрын
5:25 lmao I used a fidget spinner bearing
@prophetcarason
4 жыл бұрын
LMFAOOOO
@sethglenn9022
7 жыл бұрын
To preserve your alignment, you should just break the jam nut loose just enough to where you can spin the inner tie rod outof the outer. when it's time for install, you just spin the inner into the outer tie rod then tighten the jam nut once it's snug against the outer. If you have access to more tools like a ball joint press and a tie rod puller you should just remove the outer tie rod with it still connected. All if your boots are in good shape. Or just get an alignment. Cool videos dude.
@sam_scott_85
8 жыл бұрын
Great video man, perfect pace for an instructional video. Not painfully slow but you still got all the important info. I'll be doing this to my NA soon!
@csbeverly1
4 жыл бұрын
You will need: From Harbor freight: Needle nose and snap ring plyers. Large crecent wrench. Small flat head screw driver. 12, 14, and 17mm wrenches. Jack and stands. From Home Depot: Paint pen. Automotive grease. EZ Lock 1-1/2 in. Rotary Tool Metal Cut-Off Wheels for Metal and a Dremel. Zip ties. Total cost to me: right over $100 for having nothing to start off with.
@TimVo
8 жыл бұрын
dat garage crack! interested on a review of how much extra weight the steering when parking etc.
@ezcoreg759
4 жыл бұрын
I never worked on a car in my life, but I do enjoy watching your videos and appreciate you taking the time to show us how to do this. Maybe one day if I get the courage to turn wrenches on my 92 miata i'll be sure to use your video as a guide. Thanks for the uploads.
@eddiepadilla8984
8 жыл бұрын
A review video on how the driving feels after the change would be cool! Great videos
@JomsF
2 жыл бұрын
What if - i remove all the fluids, power lines, belt, leave the rack as is no fluid, then just inject grease then close the holes with bolts?
@WhiskeyBoyz
8 жыл бұрын
perfect timing on this video! Have my turbo and manifold off and have been running my PS lines looped. I think this just gave me the 'push from the nest' :D
@xucaen
Жыл бұрын
I would have loved it if you could have reinstalled it in the video and then did some test drives to see how it actually worked. ✌️🏁
@Not.Ferrnnzz
8 жыл бұрын
wheres the speedo cable video @ tho? mines be out for about 3 months and havnt gotten around to fixing it lol
@helloworldinthenet
8 жыл бұрын
its really not hard, pull your gauges, disconnect from back of gauge cluster, take the cable out from engine bay side unscrew from trans, re install same way it came out, done.
@GearHeadsGarageChannel
8 жыл бұрын
helloworldinthenet Dont even have to pull your gauges. We have a video going over it on our channel if +Fernando Roque is interested.
@alivemx517
8 жыл бұрын
Mike the Miata King has a video on it as well.
@helloworldinthenet
8 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but its like 4 screws and makes it easier to disconnect it from the back specially if its his first time doing it.
@GearHeadsGarageChannel
8 жыл бұрын
Its a little more than just 4 screws to pull it out nicely, and the problem with the NA's is all of them are old now and that plastic is hardened up, its very common for them to break or shatter when trying to pull them out. It's not hard to reach if you don't have big hands. It took me and my buddy only 10 mins to do a speedo cable replacement this way.
@johntechwriter
2 жыл бұрын
Why oh why did you not give us a before-and-after video? To make this complex procedure worth the effort, we need to experience the result and, along with the narrator's comments, make a determination about whether it would be worth the trouble. I want to know how unassisted steering would affect parking maneuvers and stop-and-go city driving. Could I live with this much heaviness in the steering? And when I finally get out on the back roads, will the unassisted steering SIGNIFICANTLY transmit the available grip, with the slip angle of the front end? Coaxing a gentle four-wheel drift on a twisty back road should take the MX5's cornering performance to new heights. We want to see this happen!
@AlanS-s1i
11 ай бұрын
When you depowered the rack did also remove the pump, lines, and hoses? Want to increase room for turbo install. Also have A/C want to retain that mostly for the defrost function. What do you do about belt and tension adjustment with P/S pump gone?
@johngouker4757
7 жыл бұрын
Cha Chiiiing ! No Power steering ! Who needs power steering in a 2,300 LBS. car anyways ! :-D Thank You, thank you & thank You again !!!!!! Watched it 2 times , just in case ! :-P
@coreydotnc
8 жыл бұрын
my 1.6 also failed but didnt throw a rod... the crank is bad and the pulley is wobble baby wobble baby wobble baby wobbling hardcorexxx. I TOO HAVE BOUGH A VVT! however instead of ms3 or even ms2 i will be running the stock 1.6 ecu with a vvt controller. do you think this will work? why or why not
@Djskobra
4 жыл бұрын
UK - If anyone requires the same type of red performance grease used try FUCKS SILKOLENE PRO RG2 (Synthetic Racing Grease) 👍🏻
@Spone85
8 жыл бұрын
i'd pause at 0:00 to bufer the video and... greg OMG who's your dealer :P lol keep the good work going :]
@CJrekrap
5 жыл бұрын
lol
@joenichols9666
7 жыл бұрын
great vid. trying this on a camaro build
@lilmike2710
Жыл бұрын
Lol.. Demonstrated a 16th.. Proceeds adjusting to an 8th😂
@dangerpudge1922
7 жыл бұрын
There is supposed to be a weld required. The pinion of the PS rack is two pieces and they twist at different rates as you turn the wheel. The reason this happens is that it acts as a valve being less abruptly actuated in order to build hydraulic pressure in the rack. when you de-power you wind up with sloppy steering due to this flex. Welding the two pieces together eliminates this and sharpens up the steering. For more details consult this page: www.motoiq.com/MagazineArticles/ID/1709/PageID/2463/Project-Miatabusa-Part-5--De-Powering-the-Steering-Rack.aspx
@Itsthatguyyoudontknow
5 ай бұрын
I love how detailed you are and how you show everything step by step. Earned my sub.
@FriedTurkey
4 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to doing this on mine once I've finally finished the rust repair. I did however make the mistake of sharing this with a non car person. Instant regret "YoU'lL mAkE yOuR cAr WoRtHlEsS!".
@mrskyler44
3 жыл бұрын
YoU wOnT bE aBle tO DriVe iT
@PilotLH
2 жыл бұрын
Anyone got any tricks or tips for removing the center seal that this guy didn't remove? Im going to attempt to rebuild my PS rack as its leaking into the boots and I feel like this is the seal I need to replace but nobody shows how to get it out.. Thanks in advance!
@coopersrace7277
5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Enjoy your stuff.....but man you need to buy yourself a workbench to get out of the dirt. Especially putting grease on shafts etc. I reckon u need to put some of that silicone in the crack in the shop floor. Drop a nut or washer down there and it will end up in China! Lol.
@FUELMYRIDE
7 жыл бұрын
This is a really good video man, Could you do a little addition adding those spacers you were talking about for drifting? Cheers! (:
@michaelthechefakalilmac6510
Жыл бұрын
I have a 97 and cannot get the shaft out of the rack as there is a collar inside the shaft that blocks it from what I’ve looked up you need a specialt tool to take it out and it’s basically non existent or costs 300$ so am I just shit out of luck or what
@slep5039
8 жыл бұрын
You should join carthrottle.com, great car community and tons of Miata enthusiasts
@dreamrealitysyndrome
4 жыл бұрын
I've read that you gotta pack it full of grease in the absence of fluid. Is this true? Gonna try the on my DSM Avenger
@spazda_mx5
4 жыл бұрын
I have a depowered rack (with a welded pinion) and I have to say it's crap. I'm going back to power.
@jacup7519
7 жыл бұрын
can i coat the steering rack with bacon grease?
@cougarmarauder2297
5 жыл бұрын
lol
@SammDijks
8 жыл бұрын
Quality video man!! You are an inspiration and it´s why i run a turbo miata :)
@aaronjohnson860
8 жыл бұрын
My turbo is severely in the way to even see the steering shaft, i have the bottom of the rack off now, I'm trying to figure out how to get to that damn clamp FML.
@calebroll6163
4 жыл бұрын
Anybody know the bearing size used? Mine is destroyed into pieces and unrecognizable
@sabz_bhp
5 жыл бұрын
Lmao here i am with a non power steering mx5 but now.. trying to find out how to install power steering but everyone seems to ve wanting to remove there power steering? Am i missing something? I thought everyone would prefer power steering
@galvanicpictures
6 жыл бұрын
Nice job. I may do this. Thanks for the detail about the difference in ratio between depowered and OEM manual.
@sethalton205
8 жыл бұрын
If you just so happen to find yourself in the New England area in the next month or so...
@youngbloodviper
2 жыл бұрын
Glad i found this video as i am planning on deleting my power steering and going with electric power steering from epower
@ValarisAlden
4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know the part number of the retaining clip? Mine is no longer round due to the amount of force needed to separate it from the rust holding it in place.
@BadMax02_VR
2 жыл бұрын
my miata came without any accessories except Air Conditioning xD
@yp360
8 жыл бұрын
flyin miata also has a detailed write up on it if you want something to reference while you do it. www.flyinmiata.com/tech/depower.php
@bajstolle89
7 жыл бұрын
I have a rack thats depowered im thinking of doing this mod but what does it really do ?
@tibouxstevens8313
4 жыл бұрын
What about the power steering pump and belt? How is all that deleted? What do do about the belt deletion? Just unbolt and done or is there more to it?
@iainbagnall4825
3 жыл бұрын
That is the most disgusting engine bay I have ever seen in my live. Sir, I salute you.
@jackg5094
5 жыл бұрын
How bout just popping off the tie rod ball joint instead of separating the inner and outter?
@NicolasCageM8
3 жыл бұрын
Anyone know how different the '97 is? I really want to do mine.
@byronspencer539
5 жыл бұрын
The combination of this video and my lack of budget to purchase another depowered rack has given me the confidence to do this myself.
@svriderpokey
8 жыл бұрын
When you have the inner tie rods off, you can squeeze the lock washers in a bench vice to flatten them out.
@TheCarPassionChannel
8 жыл бұрын
Oh that's genius, note taken.
@jp_styleco
8 жыл бұрын
Why do spiders always love to make nests in Miatas
@danielfurac2100
4 жыл бұрын
i think i have a different steering rack it looks not possible to remove the shaft 🥺
@raceinstinct
2 жыл бұрын
Just did this to my ‘90. Took a little while but I’m happy with the results! Thank you for the excellent tutorial!
@drainis
Жыл бұрын
Is it possible to change the ratio to make it tighter i.e. less turns
@MidnightMiata
7 жыл бұрын
Doing this as soon as I can! I can already tell my power steering is starting to go and I don't want anymore headaches with it.
@Seandoestech
8 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I have a depowered rack and I totally forgot about this mod, now it's another thing to add to my ever-growing to-do list for the boosted miata - thanks a lot Greg!
@NoobProjectCar
8 жыл бұрын
finally! a detailed step by step to depower the steering rack.
@tobydorfman975
8 жыл бұрын
What do you mean when you say "Generic grease"?
@BinhDong
8 жыл бұрын
I've been wanting to do this mod for a while. But I need to find someone that has a depowered rack so I can feel how it feels.
@leslie7872
5 жыл бұрын
Why would you want to take off the power steering
@Lowgold
Жыл бұрын
It’s just like putting sour cream in a taco
@Tezshpariel
8 жыл бұрын
I Have always liked Miatas, but never have owned one. I've been subbed for awhile and you are making me want an NA Miata so bad... It's your fault! I'm probably going to buy one... I got the itch for a project car. I BLAME YOU! But the question is should I get the 1.6 or the 1.8? I would value your input.
@TheCarPassionChannel
8 жыл бұрын
1.8L and never look back. The 1.6 has no big advantages over the 1.8.
@IVI0NSTERxx8
8 жыл бұрын
the real struggle is when you spell "thestruggle" wrong
@jellybuttersandwitch
4 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain the white marker on the tie rod?
@AleksRockZilla
8 жыл бұрын
100% of Japanese Eunos owners I asked said they hated having no PS ... I have a 330 size steering wheel and my power steering is failing and seriously I absolutely hate parking when it doesn't work !!! Maybe OK in large areas like the US has but try parking and generally driving in Okinawan 15 feet wide streets up 30% hills and not sure how you would feel lol. This mod is seriously questionable even for guys who race ...
@TheCarPassionChannel
8 жыл бұрын
It's not for everyone. 90% of the people I know that track their Miatas love not having PS. At parking speeds, it is much more effort to steer.
@redheadmetalhead247
8 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Very informative. My only recommendation would be to find the bolts or plugs to lock those holes closed. I feel like they would last a lot longer than a dollop of silicone. Other than that, great video. Upload more!!!!
@TheCarPassionChannel
8 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's why I mentioned using bolts in the video just to let people know about that option. It's definitely better.
@Thebadbeaver9
4 жыл бұрын
Im at the part where you have to remove the second circlip and then pull out this big plug from the end, and it will NOT COME OUT!!! Finally got the clip out, but its like its seized in there. Idk what to do ):
@Thebadbeaver9
4 жыл бұрын
Update: found another guide where they said to use fluid pressure to push it out....almost had a heart attack reading that because I had no idea how I would manage that. Then I figured I would just try and press it out from the other end of the rack and it popped right out!!
@icanturn6844
8 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! I am going to try this with a spare rack that I have.
@michaelthechefakalilmac6510
Жыл бұрын
You need to put a disclaimer not to do this on a 97 1.8 the shaft can’t be removed from the rack it’s impossible so now I just have a fucked rack with no lines and no way to get the collar off
@TheCarPassionChannel
Жыл бұрын
It's in the top line of the description. I can only do so much before people realize they need to do their own independent research before blindly following an internet video posted by an amateur mechanic 🤷♂️
@Birb_of_Judge
Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, "how to make it won't illegal to drive in Germany" Sadly we can't do that here, you can add power steering but you can't take it away if it was installed by the manufacturer
@TheCarPassionChannel
Жыл бұрын
Even though some Miatas came from factory without power steering?
@shawmanz32na
8 жыл бұрын
Not trolling here, but what are some reasons for de-powering in the first place? Don't you need that extra power for your insane drift entry flicks? (OK, a little trolling...)
@TheCarPassionChannel
8 жыл бұрын
Actually, the strength you gain in your shoulders and biceps from parking with a de-powered car negate the loss of initial flick leverage provided by the power assist.
@Chris.Elias_
8 жыл бұрын
you ride bmx ? premium bikes ? thats sick .
@Repavich
7 жыл бұрын
I know this is off topic, but what is your wheel setup? i know you run 225s.... but what are your wheel specs.. mainly your offset..
@TheCarPassionChannel
7 жыл бұрын
15x9 +16, 225/45R15. I have a lot of fender work, if you want an easier fit go for a 15x9 +36
@terryloweh
8 жыл бұрын
wasnt there suppose to be some welding?
@mm6705
7 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking about doing this to my miata. I've read that there is still some play in the pinion gear somewhere, and getting it welded around the center portion eliminates this play. Do you know anything about this? I've only been able to find pictures on miata.net, and it really doesn't explain exactly where to weld, and how much. Thanks
@xoSillySaus
7 жыл бұрын
I did this today, i also Welded the pinion. I just Arc welded mine but i would strongly advise either tig welding or mig welding it, much easier!! i got 3 reasonable welds on my pinion and it looks plenty strong enough. Haven't thrown the rack back in the car yet though.
@Peppermint1
3 жыл бұрын
Well done. Watching this because my rack started sweating at the top rack seal. Only remark for the video, if the rack was designed for synthetic fluid, the end seals may not resist well to the petroleum based grease, may swell and make turning harder after a while. De-assisted steering feeling will also come down to the rack gear 'ratio', manual cars from factory had a different ratio than on assisted ones. Also, guess you need a shorter belt to bypass the pump while there, better not run a pump dry for too long
@Chris_Drifts
2 жыл бұрын
The power steering belt doesn't run any other ancillaries, so simply remove the belt entirely. Unless your car has AC, in which case, yes shorter belt or just remove AC 🤣
@GoonChief
8 жыл бұрын
dude been so tempted but it is quite tedious glad u made this video it will make it much easier when i go to try it!! u da man
@jCouzito
7 жыл бұрын
Tldr: you take a saw and cut off a seal.
@VicVoss
8 жыл бұрын
That actually looks pretty doable. Do you think this process would be roughly the same on different cars?
@TheCarPassionChannel
8 жыл бұрын
Yes it's actually very similar for most cars with hydraulic power steering.
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