Also, Lorien and Troll can be played off of Wasteland, letting you kindve keep zero landers
@SpaghettiArmMan
11 ай бұрын
love this type of content, it’s like limited resources level up episodes but for us! keep it coming.
@tonydeveyra4611
11 ай бұрын
bant beanstalk with triumph must be so good in paper. That card not being in the MTGO cardpool changes the meta a bit.
@Juddy4433
11 ай бұрын
I'm forever looking for more legacy content, absolutely love this type of video - if it does well you should consider doing it monthly! monthly metagame watch, love the pod / gameplay - been getting more and more into legacy lately, even breaking my rules and buying cards again to build some decks in paper
@addieee333
11 ай бұрын
great video but a few notes - I feel a section that was missed are the green suns zenith decks of the format. there are a few, to summarise quickly - Blue zenith, a core bant or sultai deck but can be up to 5 colours, yorion optional, this is a core Blue green greens suns zenith toolbox deck Slow depths - a more midrange version of the dark depths (make a 20/20) combo deck, usually Naya or abzan but can be 4c sans -blue Maverick - a core green white fair creature midrange deck, this has no oops I win button like dark depths, no blue counters, just hatebears and good cards. a hard but rewarding deck. these days, abzan is common, but can also be Naya, 4c sans-blue, splash blue for leovold, etc., VERY flexible deck Cradle control - a black green deck, this is what happens when you make elves a fair deck. insanely good deck but possibly the hardest legacy deck, give this a try if you're up for a challenge, it's a slow version of elves where you flood the board with creatures and disrupt the opponent then just play a fair craterhoof behemoth also missing are lands based decks, with there being two main ones Prison lands - dedicated lands, also notably the most expensive legacy deck by far. These days, green white sphere prison is common, but green red is also played, slow, grindy, prison that operates on an entirely unique and strange axis Turbo depths - can be green black or rainbow/5c, the complete antithesis to prison lands, the aim is to make a 20/20 asap at any cost, protect it, and get it in. also something important to note that wasn't mentioned in the control segment - a new player may look at jeskai control (the forth eorlingas deck) and wonder why would I play this when I have more wincons and more card draw in 4 colour - the answer is stable mana. a lot of current legacy decks lose to too many wastelands or blood moon with greedy manabases, but Jeskai control enjoys the luxury of being able to play a large density of basic lands, which sounds like it's whatever but is a huge deal, turns out being able to play magic is important lol
@etherealplain
11 ай бұрын
This a great idea for a video
@JohnFromAccounting
11 ай бұрын
I bought into Jeskai Stoneblade this year since I have the correct duals and the list runs mostly basics. I think the best deck for players to build are the ones that they have the cards for and enjoy the strategy of. Legacy rewards knowing your deck a lot more than other formats do.
@usagi2988
11 ай бұрын
Obviously, there's never just a single reason for anything (life is too complex, to chaotic to be boiled down to a single variable for any given situation)... ...having said that, this content (whether in a dedicated video like this or in your day-to-day League videos) is *exactly* why I Patreon you (one of the few if not only Magic content creators I Patreon, FWIW). Your humor & morals/ethics/values are also a major contributing factor to that decision, too.
@theamazingfroboy
11 ай бұрын
I loved this! I would not mind meta game analysis's like this every few months to be honest!
@9sven6
11 ай бұрын
Love when a 45 minutes video starts with "... within 30 minites."
@siosilvar
11 ай бұрын
"in about", not "within"
@Stellar_Lake_sys
11 ай бұрын
I have a friend who just the other day asked me to help her get into legacy, so this is perfect timing
@ausen14
6 ай бұрын
Would love one of these every few months! I just started watching legacy 2 weeks ago bc I plan on going to NRG Minneapolis and it’s the day 2 format. Your channel has been incredibly informative, especially this video. The biggest impact you’ve had on my game is studying how your opponents first few land drops or spell cast identifies which deck you’re playing against.
@jelly_Mtg
8 ай бұрын
Really interesting video. As someone who has been out of 1v1 formats for a while but is looking into legacy for the first time, this has been really helpful.
@multicolourmadness2712
11 ай бұрын
Hey Phil I’ve been watching you and the Brians for a few years at this point, love your content. I think this would be great to do if another open play event happens on mtgo where you can get access to all the cards for a couple weeks, as that’s probably the time where the most new people will be trying legacy.
@MH-dn3jz
11 ай бұрын
Algorithmic contribution. This is a gold mine of detailed content.
@MemoryJarFullOfRaptors
10 ай бұрын
Hey Phil, I found myself wishing that this exact kind of video existed but had already accepted that it didn’t exist and probably wouldn’t exist. Imagine my elated surprise when I saw you uploaded this video and my wish came true! I really hope you do more of this kind of content for EW 24, and any other tournaments this kind of content could be relevant for! If possible, it would even be great if you did a part 2 to this video as we get closer to EW 23, as an update for any changes or solidifications in the metagame between now and then. Thank you so much for what you do, and you as a whole! Big ups!
@Vuurgeest
11 ай бұрын
0:05 In about thirty minutes. Looks at video length.... Love your content sir!
@sk8rboy437
11 ай бұрын
Phil, this was amazing! We need one of these every month! Consider adding a patreon feature/tier to sign up for the monthly legacy recap!
@Spicybreadz
5 ай бұрын
New legacy player here - this was really helpful! Would love to see another next year or if the meta game shifts a ton
@MrAtog
11 ай бұрын
I wish this video was endless, so i could still be watching. Very nice!
@WorldlyTutor
11 ай бұрын
This was GREAT. more meta discussion please!
@lonewolf975
11 ай бұрын
Providing extra engagement for this video. Big fan of this content.
@CharlotteMimic
11 ай бұрын
This was fun! Like a bonus Eternal Glory episode :)
@steves7803
11 ай бұрын
This was great. I know your knowledge of Vintage isn’t as deep, but if you could put together something like this for Vintage, it would be awesome.
@EvanLezar
11 ай бұрын
Great summary. See you all in Prague!
@simpsonzack22
11 ай бұрын
As someone who is finally trying to start playing competitive legacy, I found this video to be really cool. Definitely appreciated.
@honeyham6788
11 ай бұрын
absolutely loved this. very informative. I love your deep-dive videos breaking down all of these concepts
@charlescooper9501
10 ай бұрын
Great job on the video. I would commend this to anyone looking to get into legacy or to hone some of that floating knowledge. Thanks Phil!
@inMYtimeOFneed92
11 ай бұрын
Wow, just wow man, amazing video. SO in depth, everything explained in so much detail. Thank you very much for this!
@gokumasteredultrainstinct6883
11 ай бұрын
❤ this. Would like to see any brewers specials sneeking into the format and getting a weekly/monthly heads up alongside these great breakdowns. Keeping us ahead if the meta.❤
@Psyman2
11 ай бұрын
I very much prefer gameplay videos, but I don't mind more content in general either. Honestly I am even considering your podcast if I ever find the time just bc your content is so good.
@Nitrox_Costa_
11 ай бұрын
Never liked a video of yours faster, I feel like it's going to be awesome
@antoniofelipesanchesgomes1032
11 ай бұрын
Great Vid, my only contect with Legacy is by your videos and other youtuber content creators. But your's i watch every day haha One thing that always come to mind is "How to know what decks have advantage against others" and why. Ok we have the tryad Control - Agro - Mid , but legacy seems much more complex than that
@elicollins7324
11 ай бұрын
Keep ‘em coming Phil my boy !
@Lunamowon
8 ай бұрын
Been grinding mono black reanmator and initiative for some time now. Love these decks so mu u
@jameshill2450
8 ай бұрын
Some kind of RUG Delver shell with Beanstalk, Mandrils, Murktide, and Fury (and likely more midrange so no actual Delver) sounds good. Tempo seems like the archetype that has the most to gain from Beanstalk because it typically loses something on each individual card it plays, and keeping it up into the late or even mid-game starts to get rough as you run low on resources.
@ring1313
11 ай бұрын
Love this content, the further into the weeds you go the better imo
@cart02
11 ай бұрын
As someone recently trying to get into legacy (but felt a bit overwhelmed) this is great, Ty!
@CrixusMikeB
11 ай бұрын
Fantastic video! You should do this every quarter
@psychevolvexrp777
10 ай бұрын
Exquisitely brilliant breakdown of the format, thank you
@edthestudent
11 ай бұрын
This video was much appreciated -- newish to Legacy and have watched many of your matchups Seeing some of the greatest hits in Legacy along with the common deck shells all in one place was super helpful, thank you :-) More like this would be great
@Sajomir
11 ай бұрын
Love the breakdown of the popular archetypes. Would be neat to see occasional crash courses about different builds within one archetype, like different flavors of beanstalk or painter.
@AaronRotenberg
11 ай бұрын
As distorted as Legacy is at the moment by recent printings, the meta seems astonishingly diverse. This video didn't even have room to cover like half of the decks at the top of the MTGGoldfish Legacy meta page right now: Reanimator, Lands, GW Depths, Sneak and Show, Doomsday, Temur Rhinos, 8-Cast...
@buffalojerky
11 ай бұрын
Long time lurker, thanks for the overview!
@HughLeFitness
11 ай бұрын
Great detailed guide!
@NicJohnson
11 ай бұрын
Despite not playing at Eternal Weekend(Or playing very much of any Eternal Formats aside from commander)I really appreciate this video. Thank you
@DurdleMagus
10 ай бұрын
Great resource! Thanks!
@jamesbench1324
11 ай бұрын
Great video Phil! More like this please! I appreciated the short but accurate breakdown, and quick sideboard ideas. Nice work!
@pinkhatboi
11 ай бұрын
thank you phillam
@raoulselten9480
10 ай бұрын
great video thank you! i'm deliberating between a 60-card dnt list that i've tuned for months and feels reeeaally smooth, and hardened scales, which now with the addition of agatha's soul cauldron is pure crack, so much fun to play
@ThrabenUniversity
10 ай бұрын
I'd be worried about the Meltdown and Collector Ouphe style cards raining on your parade while playing Hardened Scales.
@raoulselten9480
10 ай бұрын
@@ThrabenUniversity though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, i will fear no evil nahh you're right though
@tehchives
11 ай бұрын
Really cool idea for a video. First one like it i have see from you. Could we get these every month or couple months?
@andrewbuchanan5342
6 ай бұрын
Terrific content, thanks so much, perfect for someone trying to get back in
@Martian_Manhunter
11 ай бұрын
I love this kind of content! The occasional deep dive into archetypes or specific decks would be really cool too!
@kirdiekirdie
11 ай бұрын
Amazing video, please do more of those! An update closer to eternal weekend would be much appreciated. It could also be a few hours longer 😊 the only thing I would add is that Storm takes lots of practice, so Reanimator or Cephalid Breakfast are maybe safer recommendations for newer players.
@akoras3222
11 ай бұрын
That was a great overview, thank you for doing the work for us :)
@SkeletonsYouControlHaveHaste
10 ай бұрын
Thank you for this Phil, I love this sort of stuff!!!
@Ulursify
11 ай бұрын
Clear cut, excellent discussion
@MTGreat202
11 ай бұрын
Love the not normal videos, keep going!
@eedanshwartz3250
10 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this video!! I love this kind of analytical content
@alvoi4379
11 ай бұрын
I really loved this video! Since I’m trying to convince a couple of friends to start playing Legacy, could you do a video about decks that are a bit more budget than the standard decklists but still can win a decent amount of times?
@poultrylord7300
11 ай бұрын
Big fan of this video, thanks Phil!
@olly123451
11 ай бұрын
Love this content, would be super keen for more in the future going over more decks in detail.
@covanentsbane
11 ай бұрын
This is such a great video!! Love stuff like this
@chaddt
7 ай бұрын
I'm surprised Mono Red Prison wasn't mentioned in this video. While it doesn't have a whole lot of new options to slot in it's in a really strong position to bring a large portion of the meta to their knees.
@ThrabenUniversity
7 ай бұрын
At the time of recording, it wasn't nearly as well positioned as it is right now.
@alexpoobum
11 ай бұрын
this was great thanks, new to legacy so helps alot
@czechthedrone
9 ай бұрын
perfect content, thank you very much! Any ideas on sideboarding guide as well as for the latest decklists?
@ThrabenUniversity
9 ай бұрын
I'm not a big fan of making sideboard guides. They get outdated almost instantly and tend to be a crutch for players.
@majormartintibor
11 ай бұрын
And here I am still playing Maverick...
@TxTi
11 ай бұрын
Really nice vid! Keep em coming 😁
@hellioappollion552
11 ай бұрын
Great video 🎉😊 Keep going this awesome content 🙌👏
@veikkovalli
6 ай бұрын
Wonderful!
@jonsimo
7 ай бұрын
This is insanely helpful, thanks for making this! No legacy goblin love though? haha
@ThrabenUniversity
7 ай бұрын
Goblins picked up after this video was recorded.
@Gullffoss
11 ай бұрын
Thank you Phil
@Erweenie
11 ай бұрын
Just the video I needed!
@10kfreemen
11 ай бұрын
Love it! More like this!
@illnessangel
11 ай бұрын
Great job on this one! will love to see most of this, maybe with a more graphical approach
@kapancake1735
11 ай бұрын
This rocks
@nubnub8202
11 ай бұрын
love you, Phil!
@SpitePlays
11 ай бұрын
Love this type of video!
@Belsthar
11 ай бұрын
Absolutely down for semiannual phil lecture vids
@jsun06
11 ай бұрын
This is great! Thanks for the meta game update.
@MartinEntente
10 ай бұрын
BoshNRoll just published a video and correctly referred to Mind Goblin by name. I believe that makes it official. You can't stop the train! #MindGoblin
@BMBAnauta
11 ай бұрын
More videos like this.😊
@jasonmccrory
11 ай бұрын
Great content
@rominou77
10 ай бұрын
Thx so much for that video
@grahamoliver1470
11 ай бұрын
This is immediately going to some up and coming players I know
@albertarvadottosen3512
11 ай бұрын
Thanks Phil, this was very useful
@Frontline35
11 ай бұрын
I want to go to eternal weekend, but I might have to miss this year.
@DanTomY93
11 ай бұрын
Comment to feed engagement. I hope this video does well!
@IeuroI
11 ай бұрын
good video, but where's the warning to look out for mono red prison/big red decks? D:
@justass3001
11 ай бұрын
Sick video
@davidbarbehenn8982
11 ай бұрын
I think this is awesome content and I was happy to watch it. But I tend to come to this channel to watch the daily gameplay videos and get this sort of thing somewhere else (not that you aren't obviously qualified). Luckily for me, you put out so much wonderful stuff that I still have a considerable Thraben Backlog to plumb the depths of.
@colinfreyvogel3014
11 ай бұрын
Great video, even for people who aren’t able to participate in paper legacy because wizards keeps the price of legacy decks in the “used sedan” range, it’s still a great way to add more context to your daily uploads!
@donovan4444
11 ай бұрын
Positive feedback
@donovan4444
11 ай бұрын
Checkmate, now you have to consider doing more videos like this lol
@jameshill2450
8 ай бұрын
It's been a while since I played Legacy regularly, but it seems to me like D&T is built almost entirely to fight against blue decks already. It feels like splashing for Bowmasters would just hurt their consistency, and it only does what they were already doing well anyway. If I'm going to splash a color it's going to be to improve my worse matchups, not my best ones.
@ThrabenUniversity
8 ай бұрын
I would instead view this as "it is improving the most common matchups." D&T is basically never winning its worst matchups anyway. The giant pile of combo hate that is typical in the sbs gives you a fighting chance vs combo, but some things like Elves are always just going to be brutal, even if you try to fix it.
@dd7795
11 ай бұрын
nice video
@jackcois6077
11 ай бұрын
Is Gut shot a playable card in the side board now in legacy especially within DRC decks and deaths shadow? I think 0 mana get rid of the stax part of bow masters and with the right timing answer DRC, delver and questing druid sounds quite nice when your playing a tempo deck.
@melissalutherpendragon
11 ай бұрын
Absolutely amazing video. Would love vids like this a couple times a year, or even just after impactful sets shake up Legacy.
@hunterbowman98
11 ай бұрын
I am still new to legacy but I love the Reanimator Deck strat, do you think it still has a good pressence in the format with the new decks coming out? Or do you feel if people lean mroe into control decks it gets weaker?
@ThrabenUniversity
11 ай бұрын
Reanimator is rarely the best deck, but always a solid choice!
@_Astrum
11 ай бұрын
I haven't watched the video yet. I'm gonna take a shot for each Modern Horizons card I see. edit: JK it's nothing but middle earth and warhammer cards lol
@samuelvanetten4324
11 ай бұрын
But can you play legacy with All in aggro brews without playing blue/counters spells?
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