Any advice on primaries for people that haven’t spent 1000+ medals yet? Or are we just stuck with sidearms only? Also, what’s your opinion on using the anti material rifle instead of the railgun, since you’re only using it for hulks and devastators anyways? IMO, the AMT is actually better at the role since it can kill devastators in a single shot with 7 rounds in a clip, and it can also 2 tap hulks if you hit the head. Two is more than one, but not needing to charge and having higher ammo capacity closes the gap.
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
The Amat is quite loud unfortunately, and the MS paint scope, sway, and first person loss of situational awareness definitely lose me, that and missed shots against say rocket hulks are very punishing as there is no stagger unlike with Rail. That being said Amat had a section in this video before I decided to shorten things up not wanting to go on to long on something that is meant to come off as a decisive best. The Amat unlocks earlier, as you said has better ammo, and can 1hit devs, 2 hit hulks if you are very very good with it. To those that enjoy the skill expression of the Amat I respect your choice 100% It also looks way cool :)
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
Also as far as primaries any primary you can get a one shot kill on lights comfortably is a good runner up for stealth as taking less shots is less noise when comparing other options. As other than the plas-1 there isn't a super notable difference. So I used the Slugger previously, for reasons noted in my best automaton weapons video :D
@lupvirga
6 ай бұрын
i think the pen is pretty quite. if you get a headshot and no one sees it, no one will know.
@calebnannie1822
6 ай бұрын
Great video. I have one other thing to add: the autocannon is also capable of taking out fabricators at range. You need an angle on the vents and you can ricochet a shot into the fabricator if you aim at the center of the vent when directly facing it and be gone before the bots can get to you. This can be done at long distance if you can get the angle. I've cleared many large outposts by doing this, however sometimes you just can't get the angle needed to destroy the fabricator from a distance.
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
That last part, as well as the addition of getting ammo back for the Spear now from in mission crates is the reason the Spear appeared over the Autocannon in this video. There were actually three other weapons I recorded to talk about in this video, Buuut I didn't want to pad out the run time and cut them from it as a result. That being said the Autocannon is an excellent option for this playstyle imo before the Spear unlocks. As the Autocannon is usable much earlier, with more combat effectiveness against Devastators at the cost of the reliability in Fabricator Destruction. It stands as a top tier pick with it's middle ground between the Railgun and Spear options
@grimblankjustblank4316
6 ай бұрын
I don't know if it works with autocannon but grenades even Impact can be thrown in the door of a fabricator, getting the line of sight might be a bit tricky but give it a shot you might be able to get it better by shooting into the door with autocannon. Not sure though I barely use it.
@mcarlinod
6 ай бұрын
@@grimblankjustblank4316 Yes it works with the autocannon too
@indosuprem2296
5 ай бұрын
what auto cannon cannot take out fabricator? right
@azamitsolutionprovider9398
5 ай бұрын
@@indosuprem2296 it can actually...just beed to angle the shot properly
@Crazycoyote-we7ey
6 ай бұрын
Old sniper tip Do not fir more than two shots from your postion Once you do get out of there and find another spot
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
This is 100% ministry of truth approved.
@DUKEzors
6 ай бұрын
"I found a convention" was the absolute best way to describe that situation.
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
I was just shocked and it was the first thing that came to mind ahah
@BAGELMENSK
6 ай бұрын
@@EravinVT I feel like the bots on draupnir particularly liek to have gatherings, I once saw a convention of like 30-40 light enemies in one spot just kind of... standign there looking at each other. Presumably it was a very important meeting so I didnt interrupt them.
@dr.enigma5434
6 ай бұрын
Yet another banger guide. Thanks as always for the tips!
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
glad you guys enjoy them, tysm for watching!
@SolusEmsu
5 ай бұрын
Ayo I always respect people who see that the Spear is useful! The lockon may be jank as hell sometimes but when it works it *really works!*
@elitengan
6 ай бұрын
great guide, im glad someone else has noticed how useful the spear is for fabricators. one thing i would personally add is that the anti-material rifle can destroy most low/mid bots in 1 headshot and kills a whole hulk in only TWO headshots. it has insane ammo economy.
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
The Amat was a cut segment that I took out due to wanting to convey as concise and close to a singular loadout as possible as the “best” option but there are many notable benefits to the Amat as well as cons I’ve spoken about in a few similar comments now! Solid option for sure!
@kielmun566
6 ай бұрын
I don't get how everyone says bots are harder, but I always have an easier time with bots than bugs. Stealth and cover is easier to do than running away from a horde 24/7.
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
I'd argue shift W is alot easier then keeping hard cover between you and an army of medium armored cyborgs with rocket pods xD
@johnbaker1901
6 ай бұрын
I also find bot planets eaiser to stelth through, the bugs seem to have a much longer agro range and chase you forever lol
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
oh if we are talking about specifically stealth it’s different, I think bots are by design meant to lend a hand to stealth gameplay due to how brutal it is being forced into direct conflict while the bugs allow for more of a power fantasy but their patrols/“guard” setups are much more numerous and difficult to work around without getting into a direct encounter.
@kielmun566
6 ай бұрын
@@EravinVT true. And that's why its hard to do both factions. Because each needs a different strategy that don't work on the other.
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
this is why I don't like tierlists that try to determine the value of each piece of gear vs both factions at the same time as it ends up conveying nothing really xD
@BAGELMENSK
6 ай бұрын
I dont use any of those for my stealth runs(besides the senator) but i like to do the metal gear solid type of stealth. I take AMR because it can do most of what the railgun does against bots while being more permissive of missed shots or having to suddenly kill someone you didnt see or plan for, as well as having superb ammo economy vs the railgun. For similar reasons i take the Diligence Countersniper. The scope is great for taking out lone targets before you ever get near a base, and the decently low recoil, high stopping power, and respectable fiterate can let you take out a chain of bots reliably before they ever get a flare off. I have tried taking the scorcher but it just doesnt do the same job that I need done. Railcannon strike is pretty great for dealing with the sparse few heavy enemies you cant get a good angle on, like roaming tanks or base turrets. I usually take supply pack, as if you're stealthing you're often alone and also cant afford to get spotted calling in a resupply in contested areas. I've also been experimenting with jetpack for flanking from better routes for elite stealth moves, but i tend to find myself missing the 8 extra stims and impact grenades from the supply pack. I take impacts because they're fast and strong, killing a group of enemies before they can spot you cant be done faster than woth an impact or two if you really have to. Lastly i think I'm gonna start taking expendable antitank. If you slap the calldown beacon on the rear ramp on the top backside of a fabricator it'll blow it up ez, and since it's a blue strat i have HEARD it wont aggro patrols on you instantly and instead just proc investigation mode. Recon armor is of course highly reccomended, lets you get away with some silly shit when it comes to hiding in plain sight, as long as you get prone before any bots can scan you. I prefer the combat technician armor but honestly the perk is most important. If i take supply pack i end up taking recon booster, as it helps plan my routes through a map better, being prepared for enemy positions ahead pf time frees up a lot of mental space to do your job smartly and effectively. My main gameplay tips would be to 1. Know your detection ranges. At a standard run bots will see you from 45 meters out, which goes all the way down to 15 meters at prone, and is then further reduced by recon armor. Plan accordingly and know that in most situations, if you go prone before the bot completes a scan, they probably wont see you. 2. Identify enemy groupings. Enemies within a certain radius will all grow curious at a kill, and only if they start firing and other bots notice will the aggro spread. Once you kill one bot in a grouping, you have until they start firing off their weapons to kill the rest of the group to maintain high stealth. 3. Kill the little gribblies first. If you want to take out a patrol or a guard post, make sure to kill the guys who can flare first, any one of those fuckers could whip it out instantly so make sure you can be fast about it. Afterwards you can mop up the remainder.
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
Well I won't attempt to debate the reasoning to run one kit over the other but I will say it's cool to see others in the community giving these types of playstyles the same thought as me :D Glad you've got a setup that works as well!
@octogorb9853
6 ай бұрын
AMR can do what Railcannon can do from greater distance. Its only downside is it takes a mag and a half to pop a tank or Cannon Turret. We do have grenades for them though.
@arizona_anime_fan
6 ай бұрын
i'll agree with the AMR, with the nerfs to the railgun, i've found the AMR to be the superior weapon to run against bots. you're aiming at the same weakpoints, only with the AMR you get a scope and more ammo, the AMR does the min required damage to kill pretty much everything easily. and unlike the railgun, it's hitscanned. meaning you pull the trigger and the bullet hits what you're aiming at. the railgun shell has to cross the distance to the target, and oddly this gives foes a chance to move out of the way (which doesn't make any sense, the point of a railgun would be to fling a piece of metal at high supersonic speeds, so in theory it should easily be able to achieve faster speeds then a riffle, but whatever).
@osYukari
6 ай бұрын
imo if one uses the support weapon to deal with striders, AMR is now much better than railgun (i feel railgun now could ricochet if the angles are not right), but for hulk sniping I personally still prefer railgun (despite the worse reticle...)
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
Striders pop from the front with the Plas-1 so I never swap to my railgun for those.
@sanitala
6 ай бұрын
This is honestly my favorite way to play this game. I have dedicated friends I play with and my job is always to grab the super samples then play scout for them. I'll keep my distance and snipe. Moving every few shots so I dont get patrols on me. I use the railcannon as regardless of buffs or nerfs it's my absolute favorite support weapon. I use the jump pack for the insane mobility and that I can get elevation on my targets. Then the railcannon and airstrike. I use the light armor with increased throwing range so that I can keep my distance while providing support via stratagems. The only time I change weapons is I'll swap between the counter sniper or the slugger depending on mood and mission difficulty.
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
Very cool playstyle, it’s awesome seeing how others have put methodical thought into their loadouts to suit their own unique gameplay.
@sanitala
6 ай бұрын
@@EravinVTAgreed, you definitely earned a like/sub. Very much appreciate the work you've put in especially for alternate builds that are not "but reddit said this build is OP"
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
appreciate it and thanks for watching, I never look at reddit outside of the three seconds I spend posting my videos there is if for any reason I did copy something there it be purely coincidence aha
@iamthew0lf
5 ай бұрын
I’ve been using Material Rifle and Jump Pack. Getting to high sniping points and taking out bases from long range
@EravinVT
5 ай бұрын
Jump pack can be good fun and Amat as well
@1JOHNCALVIN
6 ай бұрын
Love this channel I hope it keeps growing
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
Me too 😁 Ty for watching
@zovcy
6 ай бұрын
Ayyy, I get to be in the background footage!! \o/ Going to need to get some more hours in against bots, so that I can outgrow my role as the loud and distracting object in the distance. And, perhaps properly get these stealth tips incorporated in my play.
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
I GREATLY appreciate the loud distracting objects still! Ahaha, But no reason we can't all play Metal Gear together.
@Bolt3006768
6 ай бұрын
The spear is able to once shot hulks and tanks if you hit them from the back during an engagement. I usually run the spear in my group because of its capacity to do this, however it can still be finicky. Another really good upside to it is it can one shot cannon towers from any direction if you get a lock on it. I have use my side arm to plink a round of its armor to agro it then lock and fire before it fully turns around. Super satisfying when you get the 300m kill from a bush XD
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
Could never get the finicky thing to lock cannon turrets and thought it couldn’t so that’s very cool to know about!
@TheOneMagpie
6 ай бұрын
Pretty cool guide, sorry some of the comments you're getting are fucking weird though. I do a lot of 'stealth' stuff too, but in more of a raider way (get in quiet, get out loud). Didn't know about weapons having different 'noise' profiles, though. You can sort of figure it out, but I just assumed it and never capitalised on it. I run the supply backpack, grenade launcher, 110MM pods, smoke grenades (!), and the deployable bubble shield. Grenade launchers currently receive two full reloads per ammo pack, which is likely the most ammo efficient thing in the game right now. You can line yourself up with fabricators from distances of over 60-80 metres and dial in with quick trial-and-error, and the noise profile seems to make most enemies in the base just get completely confused until you damage one of them. 110MM pods exist for that perfect drive-by precision, though is replaceable by air strikes. Smokes, though, are unbelievably good with practice. It's rough because you have to trade out any support weapon option with a grenade launcher (anything else is too unreliable for base clearing, even the autocannon). But the feature of breaking lines of sight in this game is one of the most underrated things, and most players will forever sleep on it because they for some reason cannot piece together how optimal it is to simply... leave an area... instead of, you know, engaging in combat for 5 minutes straight once the objective is done. Deployable shield and smokes allow you to stand your ground for almost any objective in the game, even the final mining drill. Even though enemies will always shoot through the smoke, the fact they constantly lose sight of you means they constantly fail to accurately work together to land precise shots on you. Paired with supply packs, you have an extra 8 grenades and stims to brute force through it with minimal enemies actually being able to force you out of a worst-case-scenario. All of that works perfectly with stealth and, even better, works as a general supportive role in pubs or with friends. Sorry for the long one, try give it a shot sometime, and thanks for the guide, I'll definitely be giving the scorcher more of a chance.
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
The grenade launcher is definitely a solid option as well that I’ll admit I did not give enough consideration or testing. Smokes are something I enjoy a great deal when the context of what I’m doing allows me to run them. So as you can imagine the news we will be getting a grenade pistol was very exciting for this reason. I’ll give the grenade launcher some more play soon as it was a favorite of mine for bugs back in mid difficulty and my go to in HD1. It’s also decent at killing devastators which is one of the flaws with the Spear as its very combat ineffective
@kazual9206
6 ай бұрын
Why videos like this are not promoted over the one with their fake drama is beyond me. You're doing good lad !
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
You guys can make the difference, would love to have my content Heard Above the nonsense and misinformation being made just for the sake of farming the community! The comments shares etc all go a long way towards that goal :D
@unclekanethetiberiummain1994
6 ай бұрын
The reason is people love being angry. Controversy generates clicks.
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
true
@GMurph2336
6 ай бұрын
Great video man, thanks for the tips. I always bring the EAT-IT because it just feels so useful. Low cd time, you get two and they can reliably destroy tanks, hulks and those big laser towers as long as you can sneak around to the weak spot.
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
Plas-1 can take out the tanks and turrets so I prefer having the railgun available to corner peak the devastators in a 1shot off typically, That and it still one shots hulks after the change! Thanks for watching and commenting, you are SUPER equal in the eyes of super earth :D
@Darkmenon
6 ай бұрын
@@EravinVTare you shooting in safe mode or full charge unsafe to oneshot ?
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
Holding it down for a good bit of time, but I've not spent enough time in direct conflict to feel out exactly how much charge is the sweet spot on hulks. Hard to judge on if I just missed the head hitbox or if I didn't charge enough to kill. Been charging quite alot though, Definitely need some overcharge for sure I think. Devastators just a little overcharge seems to take them down without a headshot to the torso.
@octogorb9853
6 ай бұрын
I like taking the AMR because i prefer to take out bots from afar, which the railgun has poor sites to do so effectively, while the AMR does. It also being capable of one shotting Devastators all the same (and if you miss you can spam fire a followup to finish the job), feels really nice to use as well. Though i feel its hit detection on Hulks is garbage because sometimes i hit the eye just for nothing to... Come out. Also never needing the time to charge at all.
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
I don’t dislike the Amat, it had a segment I cut from this video as I wanted to convey as close to a singular concise build as possible. It has many pros and cons I’ve spoken of in a few similar comments so far. It’s a solid option and definitely a worthy competitor for those that can get by its less than stellar optic sway and first person situation awareness as well as most importantly aim well.
@octogorb9853
6 ай бұрын
@@EravinVT honestly I dont really feel its sway as much as I do with other guns when it comes to first person mode. Probably because when I'm taking aim I crouch to lower it which I had realized merely crouching reduces sway/recoil by like 75% for some reason. I also like using the Diligence because (like the gun you recommended) it can also one shot most fodder. It can't pop tanks and cannon turrets, though.
@EliPersonal
6 ай бұрын
normal diligence or counter sniper version?@@octogorb9853
@sup3rman478
6 ай бұрын
The Scorcher is best gun
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
Agree
@zamba136
6 ай бұрын
I've recently been introduced to the power of Smoke and controlling AI movement with a massive application of smoke I don't get a ton of kills, but I do get some value as the sample recovery specialist of my playgroup, as well as helping direct combat in subtle ways.
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
Also the most objective completions I’m sure
@META_mahn
6 ай бұрын
I really like taking a supply pack+railgun with me when I'm out on stealth missions. Do you have a possible recommendation on which stratagem to drop?
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
I would drop the rocket pod probably since it’s just extra clear, where the 500k can have vital importance for clearing detectors or fabricators with nearby heavies. Would only ever sub the laser out for orbital 380 just because it’s the same use case with more random results
@tfewolf9410
6 ай бұрын
I'm disappointed that the anti-mat rifle and the auto cannon were not brought up. They can be loud, but that doesn't matter if you're far enough away. And the anti mat can do almost anything the rail gun can do. I also like the barrages, even if they can be finicky at the worst of times, two of them together ALWAYS clears out outposts from my experience. Plus, it's just plain cool. Feel like a JTAC recon unit sneaking in to get a lay of the land and choosing the appropriate tool to take them enemy out. For added fun, try tossing an orbital smoke before the barrage starts to really cause chaos among the enemy
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
The antimaterial has alot of usability issues that put it soundly behind the railgun as they share the exact same purposes, it had an honorable mention segment that I cut for the sake of staying concise as it IS a good weapon in it's own right for those that have the skill for it and can get over it's quality of life issues. The Autocannon was also cut as it sits soundly between the railgun and the Spear, serving both purposes but less combat effectiveness then the rail, as well as more difficult fabricator stipulations than the Spear. Barrages are a decent alternative if you want more saturation after their buffs, although I prefer the laser due to it reliably destroying atleast two fabricators if not more, while the barrages may do that, or whiff entirely depending on the day. As this was a video talking about the very best, alot of options didn't make that tier.
@tfewolf9410
6 ай бұрын
@@EravinVT Totally understandable. For my play style the Antimaterial is my best choice just because of the experience I have with it and lack there of with the rail gun. And I only mentioned the barrages as a personal favorite for dealing with fabricators and my preferred load out, I don't think they're the best but instead I think they're really fun when used properly
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
I agree entirely, I still use all of the above at times myself for variety's sake 😁@@tfewolf9410
@ZeHeavyArmor
6 ай бұрын
Ah the greatest stealth heavy weapon option, the freedom speaking trees spitting out hot bars of long range ATGM fire. Thanks for more silent freedom giving tips!
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching, and making the decision to be SUPER equal 😊
@Isaaaaac
6 ай бұрын
Hey! Thanks for the video! I am curious about why you chose the rocket pods over the regular airstrike?
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
Precision mostly, the airstrike can surprisingly whiff even when you have it dead on the fabricator you need dead. 500k if it’s dead on will always kill the building guaranteed. Same with the rocket pod even if you don’t get it dead on. As long as there are no heavies around it anyways. Nothing worse than throwing your stratagem and going to walk away only to realize the fabricator didn’t die 😁
@Isaaaaac
6 ай бұрын
I was testing out the rocket pods and they are really nice for clearing bases. Recently I've taken a liking to the cluster bomb also, it clears everything that can call a bot drop which is super nice for extraction and points of interest. @@EravinVT
@Isaaaaac
6 ай бұрын
That makes sense about the airstrike. I have walked away from many bases confused as to why there is anything left.
@biblequotesdaily6618
6 ай бұрын
everybody keeps sleeping on the lascannon. although it cant take out fabs, its very effective against every bot type and can be used to destroy AA and mortar emplacements, along with the best ammo economy as an energy weapon and an insane effective range. also dont sleep on the jump pack either- once again you are nerfing your firepower, but the utility of being able to quickly gain ground when you need it or snag an angle that you wouldnt be able to normally is such an underrated boon. it shines when jumping off massive inclines or cliffs, or any difficult terrain for that matter, as well as the fact that you can throw stratagems pretty far if you time the toss with your jump well.
@nutzin23
6 ай бұрын
I like your tips and place style. The one major problem I have with this is that you don’t collect any samples, you just run away.
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
I’m capped on all resources and have been for about a week which has made it difficult to care about them
@venanreviews
6 ай бұрын
Not bad, I've been opting for stealth in my missions as well but I take a more distractive/supportive approach to mine. AMR support weapon for long range to remove medium > heavy enemies (except chargers atm and only relatively useful against bile titans for taking out the sac so altogether I try to avoid engagement with heavies when it comes to bugs but can 2 tap headshot hulks with this thing), a shield for bots or a jump pack for bugs since vertical movement allows for another means of sneaking around and gaining height to scout areas more easily, the autocannon sentry (moreso for bugs) as it removes heavies reliably and is a good insurance stratagem in case you're somehow discovered or are dealing with more than you can chew OR need a distraction so you can sneak around while the enemy is interested in the loud turret. Then finally the eagle air strike for removing fabricators and bug holes alike without prejudice. You could swap the sentry or this out with the exosuit or a barrage depending on the mission for more sustained cover fire or if you'd rather go solo or play a more supportive role with your team. The important part is using the AMR and scorcher from long distances taking into account enemies positioning of who they face or how far they are from hearing your shots. The redeemer is a good option for a quick "remove many smalls" when you're in the middle of reloading or want to get away from stalkers while running away since you can blind aim it backward in third person. I usually opt for the impact grenades as a quick method of remove tanks and towers since it only takes 2 throws to the turrets to remove and you can throw these into the opened doorway of bot fabricators... though frags are a bit more consistent to sinking them into the open vents. Ends up being a tossup between wanting more stealth for speed or more versatility to remove obstacles that could hinder your team or you. Good video, I hope you keep them up!
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
Impacts make sense for playing at long range with their non existent fuses, solid take on the playstyle 😁
@osYukari
6 ай бұрын
I never tried 9, but I did a lot of 6 and 7 bots with friends, and I mostly prefer staying away from the group and clear stuff solo. I would pick eagle airstrike instead of rocket pod, one airstrike is usually enough to wipe a base and thus yielding a few more samples. One trick I discovered is that, if you throw the strategem during forward dive it would go much further (I can constistenly land my strat on target 60m away with pinpoint accuracy), and landing on the ground prone will likely prevent enemy from sounding alarm from the airstrike.
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
That tip is cool, never tried throwing on a dive so I’ll have to give that a shot. Normal Airstrike was going to be an honorable mention but was cut from the video due to wanting it to be more concise. It has some issues with reliability due to the bombs sometimes whiffing even when laid directly in front of the target fabricator that kept it from my go to list. But was tested extensively (half or more of the video clips I’m using Airstrike)
@tfewolf9410
6 ай бұрын
Oh, and don't sleep on the diligence and the counter sniper Variant either. Range engagements mean that when things eventually do to fubar, you're not in the thick of enemies, and you can attempt to escape
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
Plas-1 does it better imo, No desire to ever touch either again after getting it.
@MoonShadow72
5 ай бұрын
I feel like he understated melee usefulness, its not even limited to small bots, you can take down largers ones too, like the chainsaw bots and i think even a hulk
@EravinVT
5 ай бұрын
Would not advise playing punchies with hulks and berserkers while attempting to keep a low profile but I respect the decision
@grasshopper9235
6 ай бұрын
love the Automatons content!! I like fight bots more then bug 😃
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
I enjoy stomping bugs for the fun of it but automatons are much more challenging for sure and imo make better content. That and stealth gameplay works better against them.
@DoctorPhilGud
6 ай бұрын
I want a guy to say "hey there" to me the way Eravin does
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
I'll take this compliment 😊
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
Thank you all for taking the time out of your day to watch my videos! Having so many people take an interest in my creations is very humbling and I’m very thankful for it. 😊
@stegalin96
6 ай бұрын
Do you not do bug missions? Or is there going to be a stealth bug video load-out as well? I’ve snuck up on bugs and melee’d them before without alerting other bugs so it’s possible
@themarlboromandalorian
6 ай бұрын
I got a bug stealth vid but at this point is irrelevant due to all the updates. Also, bugs are simple enough stealth is as easy as avoiding the engagements and making your targets. Big bug nests are always an issue but mechs being actually viable against an enemy which doesn't properly shoot back... Helps. I'm not the expert here. But avoiding a patrol goes a long way.
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
My preferred bugs loadout is in the works, the structure of how guards are posted in Automaton missions allows more practical applications of stealth but it's not impossible to keep a low profile vs bugs by any means. Just not as effective a playstyle vs bugs as bots. Nor as necessary as the bugs are an overall weaker faction you can take in a full frontal assault much more easily imo.
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
Yeah more so then anything I don't want to make a video on a build I don't believe in, so making a video as a "stealth" build on bugs when I know 100% someone should still be bringing the patriot as it's just that good over anything else, (A very not stealthy thing to do), would feel disingenuous over just making a normal Bugs loadout and advocating the application of my stealth tips instead. In Comparison me advocating for this stealth build vs bots, I know is the most effective playstyle.
@stegalin96
6 ай бұрын
@@EravinVT fair enough, I can definitely get that for one faction stealth is totally viable while the other is not. Just interested in your take on the best way to handle bugs. I try to dis-engage as much as possible but end up running blindly into either a patrol or a POI because I’m more worried about what’s behind me than in front, or the hunters surround me too fast and I have too hard a time that way. Then the drop puts me right in the middle of the mess again and again
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
@stegalin96 I'm going to be live here on youtube playing vs Helldive Terminids likely to warm up, feel free to stop by and take a look! I also have a video in the works for my Terminid loadout, as well as some ideas for Terminid based tips videos. All of which i'm more than willing to share ahead of time in about.. 10 minutes live :D
@GreedoShot
6 ай бұрын
eagle strike, orbital laser, jump pack, laser cannon
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
Solid loadout, airstrike was cut as an honorable mention from this video as I wanted to stay concise and provide as close to one singular build I felt was “best” as well as the laser cannon.
@thoughtgaming492
6 ай бұрын
More detailed goodies. Love it.
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
A second gameplay commentary is also being worked on as I write this 😃But first it's time for my second livestream here on the platform.
@thoughtgaming492
6 ай бұрын
@@EravinVT Stoked for that commentary vid. Theyre fun to watch and very informative. Id catch the stream but I rarely have time for stuff like that. Even videos I have to watch in segments as I have time. Such is the life of a dad haha.
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
understandable, appreciate that limited time being spent with my content :D
@Cthulhuliessleeping
4 ай бұрын
scenes like these are happening all over the galaxy, right now. you could be next
@ragtop63
4 ай бұрын
It doesn’t matter. I’m still running away from the hulk that was completely across the entire map who somehow got agro’d from me crawling while I was prone and can somehow run faster than a drop ship can fly. Oh, and he’s completely ignoring all my teammates and can see right through smoke and boulders and keep a dead lock on me.
@EravinVT
4 ай бұрын
Soft Alert moment
@dcoston1991
4 ай бұрын
Hi. So I see this is for automatons. Does this also work for bugs? Or do the stalkers negate stealth for temrinids essentially?
@EravinVT
4 ай бұрын
Bugs base structures are much more difficult to play stealth around, and their deep in the ground/ numerous making it difficult to clear them out with stratagems. Thankfully bugs are easier to take in direct fights so utilizing elements of of stealth gameplay like baiting breaches will still be relevant. But otherwise taking the fights will be much easier then trying to sneak around persay
@dcoston1991
4 ай бұрын
@@EravinVTso extremely difficult but not impossible much easier to just go loud with the bugs. Got it. Wonder if we will get a scent mask stratagem, grenade, or equipment that would let as hide from the bugs better in the future.
@indosuprem2296
5 ай бұрын
any stealh solo? i only do medium sometime chalenging with the new premium laser rifle and auto cannon i can do smooth run on medium solo and maybe survive chalenging
@EravinVT
5 ай бұрын
I did a stealth solo with no deaths awhile ago and uploaded it here but, I haven’t done one since as I have more fun playing with my chat and community.
@Vaderman011
6 ай бұрын
Why 110M strike over the standard Eagle Airstrike which has a larger range and can still take out fabricators?
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
The normal airstrike was on a list of honorable mentions cut from the video for the sake of being more concise, however it wasn’t picked due to an issue in reliability. The airstrike bombs can and have for me whiffed even when directly on top of a fabricator even once twice in a row. Where a rocket pod as the same charges, and will never whiff the fabricator as long as it’s the biggest target. In the case it isn’t I throw the 500 which I also know will with certainty blow up the fabricator 😁
@Vaderman011
6 ай бұрын
Another thing I noticed today while playing is that an autocannon shot to a factory hatch will blow it up you have to hit it straight on though.@@EravinVT
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
Yeah i've talked about the autocannon a good bit in the comments here, it had an honorable mention cut for the sake of being more concise for the reasons you would expect it to appear, but isn't as good at combat or fabricator clear as the two that did appear, being more specialized in it's roles. @@Vaderman011
@grahamhill676
6 ай бұрын
IMHO the starter orbital strike is great because of its fast recharge, unlimited use and it'll still destroy fabricators. Second i take is the standad eagle bombing run. You got a couple uses for fabricators before rearm but is still viable to take out heavies and hoards if you need to. Unlike orbital, dont even need to be accurate with it. With both its a cheap combo and you can do fabricator after fabricator. Both of these you'll have after a couple missions so even a newdivers can use them. 500kg bomb on a fabricator is a waste imo when you can just use lighter munitions, and rocket pods as you say can target other enemies. Other two slots you can use whatever. I'd rather use an autocannon instead of a third orbital/strike to snipe out not only fabricators but powerful units guarding them.
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
One of the major benefits of running the eagles is you often times will want back to back strikes with your 500 and rocket pods when needing to clear multiple large bases. The 500 is also very versatile as it can destroy detector towers that a standard strike could not. Standard airstrike is also not extremely reliable on fabricators as where the bombs actually land can and has missed the fabricator for me. Nothing worse than using your stratagem and not getting a dead fabricator so my choices were based on both consistency of application, and rapid fire ability 😁 That being said there is no wrong air support options for this task, these were just the ones I’ve found to work best for my games. There is also merit in stratagems that unlock earlier in progression as well.
@grahamhill676
6 ай бұрын
@Eravinttv That's fair mate. I guess I haven't had as much issue because I rarely go above difficultly 5 so don't encounter the larger tougher bases. I mostly run solo with the autocannon to snipe fabricators and only use airstrikes/orbitals when I can't. I think I'll give the rocket pods a go. Top video by the way...I don't think people realise how bad the bots can hear!
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
Thanks, I'm definitely spreading awareness as to just how useful stealth gameplay can be against the automaton threat. So much easier to avoid direct conflict then fight 8 drop ships head on lol
@demonderpz7937
5 ай бұрын
Is it bad that since I’m only level 12 I use the auto cannon as my support weapon?
@EravinVT
5 ай бұрын
Not at all, it's a fine Hybrid AT/Fabricator Closer and had a spot on my list until I cut it to be more concise
@scooterberry0605
4 ай бұрын
The best part of running stealth? Other players making it their mission to bring the chaos straight to you lol
@EravinVT
4 ай бұрын
Not if you group up in our community discord, Ghost Divers 🫡
@scooterberry0605
4 ай бұрын
@@EravinVT I'll consider it
@cjwolfe1172
6 ай бұрын
did I just see you swap shoulders with that railgun how did you do that what's buttons
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
my mouse three swaps shoulders, it's I believe "camera swap" in your controls
@padawanjon6441
6 ай бұрын
Personally, I use recoiless rifle a lot of the time against bots. The bot drops can’t do anything if you shoot them down
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
To many airships on Difficulty 9 for Recoilless to keep up imo but can be handy when someone is good at it I imagine
@tharobiiceii
6 ай бұрын
Do you need unsafe mode to take out hulk with the railgun?
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
Yes, without overcharge you are unlikely to deal enough damage to bring them down in one shot
@thenarrator3616
6 ай бұрын
When I do stealth gameplay I bring the counter sniper. Shooting form so far and 2 shooting heavy units with head shots (minus hulks). Also snipers are fun
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
I respect that :D
@Lucky_q
5 ай бұрын
Sooo is slugger still on the list? It barely staggers now
could u do a solo stealth mission and talk about what ur thinking to take them out?
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
I could although it be much the same just without the teammates making noise on the other side of the map. I do have a solo run up but it doesn’t have commentary.
@donaldkender4235
5 ай бұрын
Is there a spreadsheet or doc with all weapons sound ranges?
@EravinVT
5 ай бұрын
There is not, I will deep dive sound and assemble the data when we get our first suppressed weapons. I want a full spread available
@donaldkender4235
5 ай бұрын
@@EravinVT Hell yes, glad to know you want a resource as well. That will be super handy for the community
@liesdamnlies3372
6 ай бұрын
Me, tired of clickbait over-hyped garbage videos that talk a lot and say nothing about this game: Finally, some good f***ing content!
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
I really dislike those, it’s my number one goal on KZitem to grow WHILE respecting my viewers time. We all only have so much, and content creators should feel thankful that so many of you guys choose to spend it viewing our creations. Not try to milk the 10 minute mark.
@liesdamnlies3372
6 ай бұрын
@@EravinVTThank you so much for not. Your content gets to the point and I appreciate that a lot. Liked and subbed fast af. XD
@SneekyKeeky
6 ай бұрын
Incoming scorcher nerf. 🤣🤣🤣
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
Probably xD but i'll be enjoying my suppressors by then
@KillerNinja31
6 ай бұрын
If you don't have the scorcher, what would be the next best primary weapon to use that gives you a lower profile you have found?
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
So without the scorcher for primary it be any weapon you can comfortably one shot light bots with which is "most" options, as only firing once is still going to cause alot less attention then anything you need to fire more than once. So hopefully that narrows it down. Before my Plas-1 I used the Slugger as it's my runner up in my best primaries for bots video.
@noahlonaker2668
6 ай бұрын
Stealth? Helldivers 2? Those are two words that don’t go together
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
They’ve always gone together 😊 although we used to have distraction beacons back in the first galactic war instead of three teammates 😁
@zwordsman
6 ай бұрын
Gonna be doing another vid w/ the new surpressor stuff
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
Likely, although depending on how much changes about the loadout, it could just be a new video talking about all the new gear specifically and where it falls into place in the game.
@iwantagoodnameplease
6 ай бұрын
Which armour set do you use? The stealthy one? The long throw? The fastest one?
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
Trailblazer, the detection radius reduction is a big deal, and stackable with other modifiers like planetary fog and nighttime.
@lew_7
6 ай бұрын
how do u unlock the scorcher?
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
It’s on the last page of the Mobilize warbond
@lew_7
6 ай бұрын
@@EravinVT damn, a very long grind. definitely gonna work towards it though it looks like it makes bots more manageable. top video as always eravin
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching 😊 and yeah the Plas-1 owns, we are getting a new bond tomorrow so feel free to save your medals however and see if there’s something you would prefer more.
@microscott
6 ай бұрын
If you're not using the anti material rifle against bots, what are you even doing?
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
Using the Spear or the Railgun 😁
@demonderpz7937
5 ай бұрын
Which armor do you suggest?
@EravinVT
5 ай бұрын
Trailblazer is currently the only Ultra Light armor with the Scout passive, Infiltrator is also fine
@Earadon
6 ай бұрын
Maaaaan, I just want heavy armor to do some shit 😂
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
Me too, it be nice for those that enjoy tankier playstyles to get to feel tanky
@Earadon
6 ай бұрын
@Eravinttv Was playing on 5, got hit by a single devestator rocket and went up in pieces, I'm staring at the explosive resistance perk like 😮💨🫴
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
@@Earadonhad the exact same happen to me live on Sunday haha, was wearing 200 armor rating and personal shield, one rocket to the thigh and I was gone 😂
@KILLSWITCH14FP69
5 ай бұрын
Any idea how loud the new sickle is?
@EravinVT
5 ай бұрын
It’s quiet but takes headshots or multiple shots which will draw some attention so not my first pick.
@KILLSWITCH14FP69
5 ай бұрын
@@EravinVT good to know I'm still trying to grind out for that scorcher almost there
@Waabbrr
6 ай бұрын
shame i wont get the scorcher before the new warbond 😔
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
that is a shame :( Maybe we will get the new suppressed AR though!
@zerox227x
6 ай бұрын
YOU CAN TURN YOUR GUN TO YOUR LEFT SIDE?!!!
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's a bind called "Change Camera" or something? my Mouse 3 shifts shoulders.
@chazdoit
5 ай бұрын
Are smoke nades not good?
@EravinVT
5 ай бұрын
Smoke Grenades are great but you need to run a support weapon to compensate your loss of fabricator closure especially if running solo, I use the Spear when I run smokes with this loadout now
@chazdoit
5 ай бұрын
@@EravinVT How do you use the smoke grenades? Do you throw them at the enemy or throw them at your feet like a ninja?
@EravinVT
5 ай бұрын
You throw them in the direction you are running and pass through it to break LoS with what is pursuing you for the most part, you can also throw them on a hot objective to provide some cover as the terminal is operated, or use it to cover the extract pelican during a hot extract
@octogorb9853
6 ай бұрын
2:40 you can just... Throw it into the door. It'll count.
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
Door isn’t always open so it doubles back to the reasoning being the consistency in the detonation due to the blast radius 😁
@octogorb9853
6 ай бұрын
@@EravinVT it stays open for a bit after spawning bots. If you already cleared the camp you can just spawn kill them at the door and throw it in. Also to consistently pop them it has to be aimed a tad lower than usual. Downside for it compared to frags is knowing that trajectory is hard from anywhere from midrange and further.
@TheOneMagpie
6 ай бұрын
@@octogorb9853 Okay or you can just throw it in the vent and stop missing.
@matthewsiahaan1312
6 ай бұрын
Algorithm
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
Your planet thanks you for your patriotism
@AdvocatusMortis
6 ай бұрын
Yea no idea why ppl are sleeping on the 500kg (kilo or kilogramm, not kaygee... lol) bomb, with upgrade you get 2 per rearm. Range is kinda meh true, but packs a punch.
@nutzin23
6 ай бұрын
Almost every match I’m in, almost everyone has it equipped
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
Very strong, very versatile, but some don't like the small radius despite the large appearance of it's animation. I feel its well balanced in it's current form. Things like Railcannon strike need some help to keep up imo
@AdvocatusMortis
6 ай бұрын
@@EravinVT yeah, agree :)
@NDRN88
5 ай бұрын
Yeah, just use the Autocannon.
@Reziichu
6 ай бұрын
bugs can sniff you out.. stealth isn't consistent . devs have discussed this
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
It's pretty consistent, as long as the enemy hasn't been previously aggro'd they have some pretty set reactions to the things you do.
@RavagHer
6 ай бұрын
i would be amazed if anyone was able to complete a missions without the enemies "shooting" or yourself shootinf.
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
Next to impossible I think, just because there is some pretty serious jank with detection atm where alerted enemies will stay "soft alerted" after losing you and fire small bursts in your direction until they despawn or die.
@RavagHer
6 ай бұрын
i honestly think stealth is pointless cuz the game constantly spawns patrol groups that happen to walk into ur general position. meaning the game will never allow u to do a completely stealth run. even if u drop into a completely empty area the game will just spawn a patrol group of enemies and send them in your general direction. this i think is a design choice because they need the game to move forward cuz its a coop game and if u have randoms dead on your team, they dont exactly want someone trying to stealth
@im7254
6 ай бұрын
I've never done a single objective unless by accident, I just fight patrols. I don't care about what devs want us to do.
@zwordsman
6 ай бұрын
I mean, w/ the stealth gear and the radar sneaking around them are certainly doable. it does get harder and harder the higher level though
@GMurph2336
6 ай бұрын
Stealth is absolutely viable and I would say, the best option. You’re not a super hero or cannon fodder. You need to think like a Navy SEAL or something. Get in, do the objectives, get out. You don’t need to fight every patrol and with stealth armor you can sneak by most patrols.
@EravinVT
6 ай бұрын
Had alot of very stealth oriented games throughout today live here on yt, as well as several videos now of very stealth oriented Helldives so I have to disagree here as it's the core of my channel atm that this is not true.
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