The blonde student was his daughter Jamie, who was a Harvard student at the time. She revealed this in her book.
@johnqpublic4662
2 ай бұрын
lol
@joeduncan08
7 ай бұрын
Currently in my second year of a music degree, and am thrilled to have stumbled upon these lectures. It’s dense stuff but he’s so engaging and presents it all so accessibly. It would have been an honour to be a student in this class.
@RichardFeinman-yf7lx
7 ай бұрын
It is dense because it is romantic horseshit. But the music great.
@joeduncan08
7 ай бұрын
@@RichardFeinman-yf7lx thanks for your input Dick
@leopardtiger1022
4 жыл бұрын
I like to listen his talks... He is high level enlightening... Please add more of Bernstein lectures.
@BenjiOrthopedic
Жыл бұрын
He was a genius many times over. I think he understood Mozart and Beethoven better than the composers themselves understood what they were doing when they wrote their timeless music. How many people can you say that about? Probably only a few in all of history, and Leonard was indeed one of them.
@ToxicTurtleIsMad
13 сағат бұрын
@@BenjiOrthopedicstupidest comment I have ever read
@Leemarie468
6 жыл бұрын
I am only 45 minutes in and I have to give my brain a rest. My head hurts. I will watch the rest in time. I do not know if my vocabulary is even remotely adequate to grasp everything he is saying. I am looking up the meaning of words left right and center... learning always learning. :-) What a brilliant mind he had.
@P00TANARA
5 жыл бұрын
its because you are blond(ie)...
@koleparker8906
3 жыл бұрын
this lecture series is one i come back to every so often. i always get something new out of it
@edzielinski
4 жыл бұрын
These lectures are a gift to humanity and a boon to anyone who wants to appreciate and understand music better. Thank you Mr. Bernstein, and also OP.
@caginn
4 жыл бұрын
You are welcome, enjoy, best!
@srpilha
12 жыл бұрын
hands down best lecture in the series so far, his definition of (purely) musical meaning is just excellent.
@HelloooThere
8 ай бұрын
Need a new hobby
@AlexSwireClark
4 жыл бұрын
Can't get enough of Bernstein!!! He was a master teacher and artist. Thanks so much for sharing!!
@caginn
4 жыл бұрын
You are welcome, enjoy, best!
@TheBigMclargehuge
2 жыл бұрын
And a communist rat, take what he says in stride as he minimizes everything western.
@AlexSwireClark
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBigMclargehuge uh, ok
@TheBigMclargehuge
2 жыл бұрын
@@AlexSwireClark You can't really be saying I'm wrong.
@AlexSwireClark
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBigMclargehuge I wasn't saying you are right or wrong. I was just commenting on the man's skills as a musician and teacher. I'm not concerned about his political affiliations
@koleparker8906
3 жыл бұрын
goodness he is just so cool, and the quality of these lectures are unbelieveable
@barbaradunn5413
Жыл бұрын
Wonderful lecture. I miss him. What a genius.
@MagnanimousDominion
2 жыл бұрын
I think the gist of what Bernstein is showing us with the sixth symphony of Beethoven is how it works on two levels: a purely musical level, and, in his words, an "extra-musical" one. It works as a pure musical metaphor of itself, and as tone painting, even if Beethoven didn't fully intend it that way. Brilliant lecture.
@koralessons
2 жыл бұрын
I love all of this lectures! Inestimable musical treasure for all mankind...
@911gpd
7 жыл бұрын
This is the kind of lecture that should be on TV at 7pm on mainstream channels (maybe not as technical) People would get more intelligent, acquire a reasonable culture and learn how to think by themselves.
@paul2486
4 жыл бұрын
This is amazing!! What a treat!! My experience is transforming!!!
@ramblinevilmushroom
6 жыл бұрын
happy birthday mr bernstein. Your lectures were some of my favorites
@DavideSablone
Жыл бұрын
These lectures are pure gold
@lw7108
5 жыл бұрын
A lecture that introduced me to Beethoven's *sixth* and made me enjoy the symphony quite a bit.
@BenjiOrthopedic
9 ай бұрын
50 years since these were filmed...hard to believe, but what he is saying has not changed. It's all quite timeless!
@caroleem1319
7 ай бұрын
Does anyone know??Wondering if he and Glen Gould were best friends??❤
@videos4mydad
Жыл бұрын
how times have changed 1:53 Jesus Christ I did not expect that. Such an enlightened, sophisticated lecture - and bam , right in the middle of it... holy shit.
@andreacochrane257
11 ай бұрын
I had the same reaction, and then thought “Well this was 50 years ago…. At the time, he probably thought he was being progressive for casting his imagined interlocutor as a woman.” 🙃
@videos4mydad
11 ай бұрын
@@andreacochrane257"interlocutor " is a fancy word!
@JimC
10 ай бұрын
@@andreacochrane257 She was NOT imaginary. That was his daughter Jamie, who was a Harvard student at the time. She revealed this in her book. And imagining what it was like to have Bernstein as a father, I'll bet she gave back _to_ him as good as she got _from_ him, and he _expected_ her to.
@JakePurches-Base2music
2 жыл бұрын
People of knowledge had much bigger and wider general education than they do today. Far too much specialisation going on now. This is why Bernstein can express himself so well and understand the wider point of view in how it all relates to language. He was one of the last from the 'classical' age. Almost no one these days can compose like him, let alone Beethoven.
@eltiogottlieb.4911
Жыл бұрын
Qué inteligencia, caray. Qué genialidad.
@LeosPianoAcademy
3 жыл бұрын
This is such a beautiful lecture. He describes everything so well that even a beginner could understand. Please make more of these. (Yay)
@caginn
11 жыл бұрын
Your welcome, I hope you enjoy this series and other videos at my channel. Your encouraging comments are warmly welcomed. Best !
@shengting
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@sebastianocampo8524
4 жыл бұрын
you're great! knowledge jewells!
@antonellomascarello4698
10 ай бұрын
3:00 7:37 : metaphor is key 11:34 : Difference between art and reality!! 15:45 : !!!! Relation to some x factor 16:42 : musical semantics 22:56 23:59 : 3 "types" of metaphor
@thescowlingschnauzer
13 жыл бұрын
Leonard Bernstein would need a cigarette after Beethoven's Pastoral Symphony, wouldn't he?
@RichardFeinman-yf7lx
7 ай бұрын
Ha.
@napsuta
10 жыл бұрын
After listening to the one and only Leonard Bernstein talking about the 7th. The symphony will never be the same. A great teacher. Thank you for sharing this.
@caginn
10 жыл бұрын
You are welcome.
@masaimanic4836
10 жыл бұрын
I think you meant the 6th??
@napsuta
10 жыл бұрын
Yes. A typo error that I didn't see. Thank you.
@mageorge1955
11 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this marvellous series. You have other great stuff as well, which I will look at with great relish.
@kappabravomusic2101
Жыл бұрын
One can only dream of such a great teacher! 👏👏👏
@al1936ful
12 жыл бұрын
Toscanini's 1952 performance is just as vividly rendered as Bernstein's. You can also see the brook flowing over pebbles in the second movements and the little droplets of rain in the "storm" movement.
@bighugejake
4 жыл бұрын
I'm going through my second time watching these lectures. Gave it a few month rest in between rewatching it. I am getting WAY more out of it this time. The ideas are not so novel and I'm actually understanding his full arguments and equating the linguistic versions with the musical ones. The hardest part is the "storm" elephant though. I mean, that's just clearly a storm. To me, that part is impossible to dissociate with its external meaning.
@truthseeker1222
9 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. A little dry but deeper than I've heard anyone talk about music. And I loved seeing the one woman rocking the flute. Yes!
@passportpianist
13 жыл бұрын
lol from watching these lectures you can learn alot of new vocabulary as well as musical ideas an metaphor :)
@MastanehNazarian
6 жыл бұрын
Part 3 an excellent lecture on the nature of the human being. The flawed and evolving nature of ALL HUMAN BEINGS!! What mr B is asking the listener to do is to forgive, forget and renew our habitual mind and find out how Beethoven attempts to overcome his very own nature. I think the references to the inquisitive student is fictional and only there as a dialogue tool (classic logic, people!) it also captures for better or worse the zeitgeist of his audience. Imagine a man of his age going back to school?
@loge10
3 жыл бұрын
I would give anything to have eavesdropped on Lenny's discussion with "Blondie". It seems to have lead to a point at 12:45 that is almost metaphysical in its implications about music - and which Schopenhauer expressed for why music was the highest art form - it is the most direct and requires the least amount of "computing" with the mind. Amazing lectures and I'm very grateful they are available on KZitem.
@ericastier1646
2 жыл бұрын
he said she was "pretty" too so, it might not have been all metaphysics for him... We are in the 1970's.
@loge10
2 жыл бұрын
@@ericastier1646 He was pretty complex in that regard...
@ericastier1646
2 жыл бұрын
@@loge10 ok
@chessematics
Жыл бұрын
Anyone spotted our darling Blondie?
@Fetrovsky
2 жыл бұрын
Beethoven: Let's harmonize these two notes with thirds. Bernstein: OCCISUS!!!
@neiladriancabanda
12 жыл бұрын
I actualy heard the violas sounds so good hehehe
@EdwinRywalt
12 жыл бұрын
Perhaps there was no such confrontation, no such 'bitchy' girl. It seems to me that these lectures were all prepared well beforehand, probably before he went up to Harvard to deliver them. Galileo used this technique, imagined dialogue between fictitious characters, for, among other reasons, elucidating his ideas. I suspect LB was using this technique as well. It's very effective.
@Ale-qf1pm
3 жыл бұрын
These are the "Harvard Norton Lectures" every Harvard Music professor has them, they choose a topic and discuss it during these pre-planned lessons. In Bernstein's case he wanted to talk about the similarities between music and language, and he titled these "The Unanswered Question" after a piece by the same name by Charles Ives
@paulmaier5555
3 жыл бұрын
I am totally d'accord with you, of course there was NO zeugma-shmugma-blondie, this tradition traces back to Socrates and his scholars
@taylorcarrell3584
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I had the same thought, well done on his part
@1samc
11 ай бұрын
That will forever be, an unanswered question.
@23gregorius
10 ай бұрын
This is based upon the English language and there are innumerable interpretations possible But how is it with the German language having completely different structures. And how is it with Sanskrit ? I do not believe in his proposed relation between language and music. He leaves out Indian music. And what is the musical relation between the poetry of Sri Aurobindo in his "Savitti" and ? What is the musical relation to his Savitri ? Music has got a source beyond our mental capacity. The western concept is that music comes from the composer, the Indian concept is that music comes from a World of music created by our Mahashakti and She gave to very few of us before their birth a key to enter this world by their intuition. So a composer is just copying what he heard in this hidden world and puts it into notes for us. If you study the teaching of Sri Aurobindo you get the info that there are levels in heaven where angels make music to which our music is noisy.
@MultiLerak
13 жыл бұрын
Thanks from me as well. Lenny was such an inspiring man!
@QuantumZebra
7 жыл бұрын
That stuff about the minor third blew my mind.
@papakilatube
3 жыл бұрын
when he played brahms I died
@jjaypem5154
9 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for posting. Fantastic lecture and analysis. I know at least one music teacher who plans to use this series with her high school Music Theory classes. The other surprising aspect of this video is the makeup of the BSO. I think I counted 2 female players in the entire orchestra, then looked at photos of the present BSO that is filled with women in every section. Amazing social progress in the last 40 years.
@caginn
9 жыл бұрын
You are welcome. I'd kindly suggest to those teacher to download them from KZitem via Freemake Video Downloader (or via whatever program they prefer) "just in case". Best.
@sandrarichards1666
6 жыл бұрын
j jaypem bo
@ElMaestroRyan
12 жыл бұрын
No one else think it's crazy how he decries the 'extra-musical' imagery and then gives the most vividly rendered performance of the 'Pastoral' I think I've ever heard... Only Lennie could get away with it....
@christopherpi2010
3 жыл бұрын
He is seperatkng the scientific from the other and applied meaning vs inherent meaning..
@ElMaestroRyan
3 жыл бұрын
@@christopherpi2010 9 years and I’m gonna reply in 2 minutes! 🙈😂. I get what he’s doing, but iirc he says “away with birds and the bees” or something similar right before giving the most characterful pastoral I’d heard to that point. But again it’s been 9 years, I might be wrong.
@Donluggy
13 жыл бұрын
Beautiful, is the only thing that always comes to my mind when I see Bernstein!
@minnaroseahlers2758
11 жыл бұрын
rhopalism: the art or skill of writing verse in which each successive word in a line is longer by one syllable than the preceding word or in which each line of verse is longer by a syllable or a metrical foot than the preceding line.
@allesvergaengliche
5 жыл бұрын
these videos are fucking genius. thank you for putting these online for members of younger generations like myself to see.
@matteopesce7405
4 жыл бұрын
48:17 "Basta Anafora!" Hahaha that's great, he sounds so good in Italian!
@caginn
13 жыл бұрын
@Donluggy Passion is what comes to my mind when I see him, talking, commenting, conducting, playing ... living.
@thescowlingschnauzer
10 жыл бұрын
48:39 - Chiasmus. A great example of it from the Beatles: "All you need is love/All you need is love/All you need is love/Love is all you need."
@GothicKin
10 жыл бұрын
Lol
@MartinSmithMFM
7 жыл бұрын
That is no chiasmus. Except in the harmony, on the third 'need is' - if that is what you mean.
@MartinSmithMFM
7 жыл бұрын
One would have thought Bernstein would be ideally placed to lecture on trilling,
@aIewishus
6 жыл бұрын
so close
@3251JOE
11 жыл бұрын
I would respectfully suggest to Ms. Perkins (below) that she listen to the symphony again, as I do, with eyes closed throughout and mind as blank as one can make it, so that all one's attention is focused through one's ears on the genius of the music. Again, Cagin, heartfelt thanks for these posting.
@peerappel2012
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for sharing this!
@caginn
4 жыл бұрын
You are welcome, enjoy, best!
@devbety
4 жыл бұрын
I love you Mr. Bernstein
@David-mb5zu
10 ай бұрын
Imagine you attend a lecture and your own teacher refers to you as bitchy. 🤣. I love every second of that initial part of the lecture, along with the rest.
@karlhanson6119
6 жыл бұрын
I just recently purchased the six DVD set of these lectures. Watching these has provide me some insight into this gifted man. His musical talent - especially how he can so easily play excerpts of music at the piano without looking at keyboard! - absolutely blows me away. Those musical moments with Bernstein playing at the piano are amazing. That said, these lectures are not entirely about music, and I have found myself frustrated watching them. Bernstein mentions an undergraduate woman who confronted Bernstein, and asked, "I understand what you say about Chomsky; but I don't understand what this have to do with music?" I feel the same way. Bernstein was fascinated with Noam Chomsky's observations about linguistic syntax. He spends a lot of time on Chomsky. I happen to be familiar with Chomsky, because I have applied his "tree diagrams" to learning German. Essentially, Chomsky observed that all languages share similar linguistic rules. There is a "deep meaning" to our sentences, whether they be simple sentences, or in the passive voice, or poetry. In these lectures, Bernstein is seeking a definition of "aesthetic" in music. In this case, he is kind of working backwards from Chomsky's approach. He says, there is no meaning to music beyond musical meaning. He is saying that, the "deep meaning of music" can be trivial, but by various musical transformations, composers create "metaphors" which imply the trivial, but avoid the trivial. This is what separates great composers from dull ones. It is impressive to see watch this man speaks so eloquently. However, in lectures 2 and 3, Bernstein struck me as someone who was talking to himself, wrestling with an intellectual puzzle of his own, with little regard for his captive audience. Whereas Chomsky's work can easily be understood on the level of symbols, Bernstein seems to be thinking out loud, in search of something that he could have formalized into simple rules. His self dialogue - with eidetic/perfect memory recall of passages from Shakespeare, the bible, various philosophers - about "aesthetic" in music, were far too intellectual for me. Nothing should be this complicated.
@wenaolong
7 жыл бұрын
There are some areas of L.A. which fit this description: "The whole town was old men and women".
@bucklilli9832
8 жыл бұрын
Oh, Lenny, what beautiful eyes you have. Oh, Lenny, what beautiful hair you have.
@caginn
11 жыл бұрын
piano sonata 18, 1st mov.
@sulfurousstench
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@augustburchard426
7 жыл бұрын
This Leonard dude has dope hair.
@Rhythmmical
7 жыл бұрын
Hwhare, Hwhat, Hwhim.
@russellszabadosaka5-pindin849
4 жыл бұрын
Hweat Thins.
@Simplyveej
4 жыл бұрын
Coolhwip
@whatabouttheearth
4 жыл бұрын
Havawd 🎩
@maxalaintwo3578
3 жыл бұрын
@@Simplyveej YOU'RE EATING HAIR
@Mr_Gray_Sky
3 жыл бұрын
There's a part in that symphony where there are 8th note triplets played over 4/4. It's basically Meshuggah.
@NAmania
5 жыл бұрын
I really tried to listen to the Symphony without "extrinsic" meanings but i only lasted until 1:38:18 ...Not very far, i know but such is the force of the command that Louis has upon my soul...
@steffen5121
6 жыл бұрын
15:58: Brahms 4th Symphony strikes randomly!
@heckler73
7 жыл бұрын
These lectures are great. One point of contention I have is the question of the left-hemisphere dominance in his view of music. I suppose he was latching onto Chomsky's work at the time, though. However, Iain MacGilchrist would disagree and I surmise has a more convincing argument suggesting the right-hemisphere is the source of music, and came _before_ language. Ergo, language was _informed by_ music. I suppose I could be mistaken, but after seeing (and mulling over) the first two parts, it seems to be his opinion.
@derrik-bosse
4 жыл бұрын
"Blondie" haha. Would never fly today
@RendHeaven
3 жыл бұрын
He totally destroyed her lmao. In 2020 he would be cancelled
@edwardyang8254
4 жыл бұрын
Blows one's mind from 56:50
@ai1888
12 жыл бұрын
@ashcello93 The girl is obviously a fictional one, Mr.Bernstein created to illustrate a point!
@haragopal1
6 жыл бұрын
29:29 beethoven piano sonata 18 the hunt
@user-hornyforadventure
Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@willmpyle
12 жыл бұрын
Actually a recent study by Vuoskoki and Eerola has shown that unfamiliar music can induce genuine sadness in subjects with no autobiographical connection to the music. You should read the published study it;s very interesting.
@MartinSmithMFM
7 жыл бұрын
Well that's obvious. One discovers - very rarely, true - masterpieces one did not know.
@RedZed1974
6 жыл бұрын
A pinnacle example of this is Shir Hashirim by Trivox.
@billykahkonen5411
3 жыл бұрын
Can you link it here? Thank you!
@bob32f32
13 жыл бұрын
Thanks again!
@maxwellmiller6986
5 жыл бұрын
What i am still inquiring is how does one composer imagine and/or notate such metaphors and/or ideas?
@caginn
11 жыл бұрын
You are welcome, enjoy, best !
@srpilha
12 жыл бұрын
But I see your point, and it's an important one: one thing is saying "that's sad", and a very different one is *feeling* sad because of the music, whether I say it's sad or not. Still I think they went about it the wrong way (or with the wrong music) to prove their point.
@johnk.lindgren5940
10 жыл бұрын
kiitos
@alexandrusimo899
Жыл бұрын
somebody needs to make a spreadsheet with all of these rhetorical devices
@weoddity8622
3 жыл бұрын
This just made realize how brilliantly "El Classico" by Tenacious D is structured. Think about it, how the lyrical structures are matched with the poetic semantics of the melodic components. The D knew understood the greatness of Beethoven.
@rusinovr
2 жыл бұрын
How Joaquinn Phoenix made it to blow those oboe lines with Leo Bernstein?
@Fetrovsky
2 жыл бұрын
I've always loved the doppler effect around 2:03:45.
@Rhythmmical
7 жыл бұрын
21:18-21:24 Music is a game of Sonic. I loved Sonic games!
@hirschowitz1
4 жыл бұрын
Dearest Daphne...... please have you and new little Alex and Michael listen carefully...... all my love.....,.. Bernstein was a genius..... Alex will understand....... Jenny xxxxxxx
@MarcioSilva-ssiillvvaa
3 жыл бұрын
This is a banquet for thought.
@ardennes8970
2 жыл бұрын
Perspective =/= Perception :) One requires the other.
@BenjiOrthopedic
Жыл бұрын
Not hard to see why they chose the Pastoral Symphony for the original "Fantasia". A very good choice - it's all quite pictorial.
@PPBerklee
6 жыл бұрын
21:25 just before was a huge big up to MUSIC
@jameskennedy7093
5 жыл бұрын
He says that the minor third is the 18th partial, which maybe is true, but isn't it also between the fifth and the sixth? CCGCEG? The major triad is built on a major third at the bottom, but that leaves a minor third on the top between the major third and the fifth.
@willmpyle
12 жыл бұрын
But we have remember that there is a distinction between the emotions expressed by the music and those felt by the listener. It isn't illogical to listen to music and say, "that sounds sad." Of course this statement could be based on preexisting learned bias, but the real question posed and possibly answered by this study (at least more completely than anything else that I've read) is "Can music induce real feeling in the listener without a connection to biographical content.
@masaimanic4836
10 жыл бұрын
I wonder what Mr Bernstein would have made of this analysis of Beethoven's 5th symphony: Argument to Beethoven's 5th
@YaketyYakDontTalkBack
5 жыл бұрын
Clearly all just repetition.
@dtketterer
12 жыл бұрын
Gotta love Bernstein the actor: 13:00
@caginn
13 жыл бұрын
@MultiLerak ur welcome, enjoy, best.
@EzraAChen
2 жыл бұрын
Excellence
@Olorin486
6 жыл бұрын
VARDAMAN: My mother is a fish.
@nabhatthurakitseree3729
8 ай бұрын
Anyone knows where Bernstein lecture on 29:33 was in which section if Beethoven’s symphony?
@santiagocerabona7551
Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for sharing these videos. But it would be of great help if you enable the subtitles to be able to translate what it says, since I don't understand much of it. (It is not necessary that it be in Spanish, in English it helps me to read it) Greetings from Buenos Aires. To add them: Access KZitem In the menu on the left, select Subtitles. Click on the video you want to edit. Click ADD LANGUAGE and select the one you want. Under captions, click ADD. Thank you very much
@caginn
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comment and feedback I will deal with the subtitles ASAP. I've done one of them already. The rest will follow hopefully. Best!
@santiagocerabona7551
Жыл бұрын
@@caginn You're big, don't worry, there's no rush. (translated online)
@JBorda
Жыл бұрын
And 2022….Bud Bunny 😢
@caginn
13 жыл бұрын
@ashcello93 they don't care since probably they are used to hear rough words from Bernstein :) ur welcome, enjoy. best.
@GothicKin
10 жыл бұрын
Was that at 1:31:20 made up on the spot or does there exist anything from Cole Porter like that?
@RedZed1974
6 жыл бұрын
As I understand it, it was his friend's rendition of the symphonic melody as a Cole Porter tune. Porter-esque. I don't think a real one exists.
@caginn
13 жыл бұрын
@thescowlingschnauzer he'd need it even during a performance before launching into the 3rd movement :)
@boobtuber06
11 жыл бұрын
I am going to presume that the Bernstein lengthy musical analysis of the Sixth was generated subconsciously by Beethoven's musical intuitions and most likely not explicit and literal. I must also say that Beethoven was most likely a diligent of Bach and all the counterpoint and fuges that go with him
@nilxnull
9 жыл бұрын
His speech is music in itself :o
@joeenglert
6 ай бұрын
question....why 4 clarinets when there is only a first and second clarinet part???
@caginn
6 ай бұрын
Doubling the number of winds was a common practice since Beethoven's time. Depending on the conductor, it is usually done for the sake of a bigger sound for a large hall.
@srpilha
12 жыл бұрын
I agree there can be a distinction between emotions expressed by music and those felt, but the lack of connection to biographical content is what's really missing here. By considering "unfamiliar" any piece that the subject just has never listened to before, we're not eliminating all the biographical content associated with the musical elements themselves: tonality, timbre, rhythm, harmonic rhythm, and so on.
@CrusaderDom3
11 жыл бұрын
that girl isn't blond
@sarahjones-jf4pr
3 жыл бұрын
To hear music as music only...devoid of images and feelings....how on earth do you do that surely that is the point of colour and feeling in a symphony? someone who grasps this concept please explain..thank-you.
@ShanevsDCsniperr
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i think he is only suggesting that you try to focus your attention on the transformational techniques applied by beethoven to his basic themes in order to illuminate the way the surface level of the music is structured on a "grammatical" level. the point is to illustrate by this exercise that there is musical (and associated emotional) meaning encoded into the music itself that doesn't rely on the extramusical (programmtic) meanings ascribed to it by the composer, performers or audience. he isn't suggesting that you take it in without feeling anything, just that you try to appreciate how those feelings inside you are related to the observable transformation of motives in the surface level of the music itself (rather than because the music "depicts" images or scenes or emotional aspects). i think this is most clear when he discusses the idea that minor harmony sounds "sad" to us because of the physical phenomenon of a played minor third clashing with the major third that exists more more prominently in the overtone series of the fundamental note.
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