In the art of war and love which is a battlefield there do not exist any foul tactics. LUL
@nvelsen1975
10 ай бұрын
A shamefur dispray!
@josyhavik
10 ай бұрын
shameful, one might say
@jewosjowos2832
10 ай бұрын
his whole channel is really just about bullying the ai. i love it.
@Pilps
10 ай бұрын
Disgusting! I love it!
@Vadelinoz
10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@bertibert6656
10 ай бұрын
why did you never do that
@toupeiragamer8564
10 ай бұрын
Not enough Kablooey for Pilps' taste i guess 😅@@bertibert6656
@FiammadiRouse
10 ай бұрын
Why, and if isnt is marvelous ? Splendid !
@Pilps
10 ай бұрын
Never even knew or considered it! Will do now however!@@bertibert6656
@kippies66
10 ай бұрын
Or you could call it... The Yaricade! EDIT: Woo, I won!
@cynicalpsycho5574
10 ай бұрын
100%
@vincenttekelenburg3740
10 ай бұрын
Sounds yarimazing
@TacoTomtheBomb
10 ай бұрын
That is a great title for this technique!
@JozsefPocsi
10 ай бұрын
I think he changed the title to it
@SalmonCaramel
10 ай бұрын
He changed the title to match, so congrats on the name lol
@acheron16
10 ай бұрын
Who would win? - Katana Samurai hardened with glorious nippon cheats, folded 100000 times - A flimsy piece of wood
@Srymak
10 ай бұрын
a long spear peasant-boi
@joehill4094
10 ай бұрын
@@Srymakmany such cases
@comradekenobi6908
10 ай бұрын
Tbf looking at it logically it gonna be pretty hard to even cross the deployable wooden screen knowing there's thosuands of spear armed men at the other side XD
I've played this game for 700 hours and never knew you had deployables holy shit
@ilari90
10 ай бұрын
1100 hrs here, knew about them, but this is next level stuff clearly, wow.
@pablopablo3834
10 ай бұрын
It only happens if your army stays still for a whole turn and then gets attacked by the enemy. You rarely ever get to use them because you can move so far on Shogun 2 an enemy army is usually within range before the conditions are met. I'm almost certain another game has this exact same mechanic Empire and Napoleon?? I think you can stand on wall barricades and plant mines in those wait Medieval 2 has them too I remember using stakes for English Longbows.
@HansWurst1569
10 ай бұрын
YEAH WTF I'm thinking the same right now.
@GeraltofRivia22
10 ай бұрын
I've only been able to deploy it once or twice. 550 hours but split across base and Fall of the Samurai.
@98765zach
10 ай бұрын
@@pablopablo3834Napoleon had light infantry who could deploy stakes AND there were entrenchments for your infantry and artillery units but I can’t remember their triggers
@Jackasaurus
10 ай бұрын
Loving the historical stuff mate
@maxamaxa194
10 ай бұрын
Using temporary structures and superior tactics with spearmen.. Legend is Oda Nobunaga now.
@udozocklein6023
10 ай бұрын
didn't nearly all japanese generals, or medieval warfare leaders in general, use this tactic? i mean... the french and british sure did
@Knoloaify
10 ай бұрын
@@udozocklein6023 Not really. Usually, people didn't build barricades on the battlefield. The most notable cases in Medieval Europe were the Hussites with their carts, and later the English with their longbowmen during the HYW, and the French with their artillery and gunmen during its last battle at Castillon. In Japan, Nobunaga was the first one to become famous for combining trenches, barricades, spearmen, and gunmen to take out the Takeda army at Nagashino. The tactic was later reused by his successors in the few conflicts that followed his death.
@udozocklein6023
10 ай бұрын
nice joke. usually people didn't build barricades on battlefields - just the two most important players and also roma and many more used the tactic when it made sense.@@Knoloaify
@Knoloaify
10 ай бұрын
@udozocklein6023 There is a big difference between a handful of battles over the entirety of the medieval period and "nearly everyone did it". If it was as common as you say we'd naturally see it in most battles, and yet we don't. Or please tell me about the barricades of Bouvines, Hattin, Nicopolis, Hastings, the battles of Kawanakajima, Okehazama, etc. You said nearly all of them did, so surely those field battles and many more would have people building trenches and barricades on thr battlefield right?
@King.Leonidas
10 ай бұрын
@@Knoloaifyno by Odas early pike and shot existed and it was the start of trench warfare
@Freewata
10 ай бұрын
You know the gloves are coming off when legend starts control groups ;)
@kylepracz
10 ай бұрын
Finally, someone thought to close the gap in Yari
@HansWurst1569
10 ай бұрын
There is a joke here and I don't get it. I feel so dumb
@Makofueled
10 ай бұрын
@@HansWurst1569 If there is, it's gone over my head
@awlore
10 ай бұрын
@@Makofueled maybe its the "Yuri>Yari" hence gap closed...but if its not, it went over my head too
@leonottens9891
10 ай бұрын
@@awloreits because when you select multiple units and deploy them as a yari wall, there will be gaps between the units. If you put every unit together, its a gigantic speerwall
@awlore
10 ай бұрын
@@leonottens9891 thank you for the explanation, definitively not what i was thinking
@hughanquetil2567
10 ай бұрын
How could you not call that "the Yaricade"?
@LegendofTotalWar
10 ай бұрын
I didn't think of it. But I've changed the title now.
@winndypops
10 ай бұрын
That is wild, I really like using the deployable walls like that to create little forts but had never thought about making channels like that for my Yari.
@heygek2769
10 ай бұрын
Making a little fort where your yari can guard the openings in a V shaped formation works really well.
@Kujirakira
2 ай бұрын
You can also do a Shogun I style bridgehead (90% of the battle maps are rivers with 1 bridge 😭). Need at least 2 layers to make it work (gaps/pathing nonsense), but he had plenty of archers to do it.... and could have then ran the archers into the woods (AI so forgetful). Once the tarball bridgehead is engaged, get the archers in range from the side and rain hell down on them while screening with yari sam and sending cav after AI's ranged units.
@grayraven2418
10 ай бұрын
Routes what normally would be considered a key to victory, then overcomes all odds by using the AI against itself while taking few casualties. Can't be more LoTW than this. 😂
@DioSatyaloka
10 ай бұрын
Legend's biggest advantage in Shogun 2 is that he has been to Rome and around. The Japanese won't know what happened in Thermopylae and the strategy used there 😂
@meksil8776
10 ай бұрын
Actually they do ! Check for Tomoe Gozen and the Battle of Uchide no Hama which happened in 1184
@zondor8123
10 ай бұрын
@@meksil8776true, forgive the guy cuz he doesn't really know most of Japanese history, a shameful display! 😂
@hyperion3145
9 ай бұрын
You mean the strategy of using chokepoints? Probably the most universally recognizable strategies out there. Sun Tzu even mentions it back in the 400s... BC...
@arandombard1197
8 ай бұрын
Thermamoplyae didn't invent using chokepoints, every society already knows about them.
@iwantcrawfish6110
10 ай бұрын
I've always used a yari wall, but never like this. Legend after all these years, you still show us new tricks! much love
@atomicgandhi8718
10 ай бұрын
When Yari Ashigaru fall below 40 (?) models, Yari Wall is disabled due to casualties, essentially.
@RockyX123
10 ай бұрын
I never thought about using the barricades like this...Absolutely brilliant
@rustyzipper19
10 ай бұрын
I never used these walls before. This is beautiful, a staunch line of bamboo shielding the spears.
@ayomri1914
10 ай бұрын
This has got to be the first time I've seen Deployables used in this way. I gotta give it a try Myself
@antoniodelaugger9236
10 ай бұрын
lol gotta wait for an opportunity to actually use it as it requires not moving your unit for a turn
@napowolf
10 ай бұрын
Damn this one is insane. So creative with all the tactics, tight maneuver and ofc the cheese. Very fun and informative episode.
@joaquinmig
10 ай бұрын
Now that you are re-connecting with all these older total wars perhaps you can make some updated tier lists as to which one has “the most fun battles” or “the most balanced mechanics” etc!
@nms8397
10 ай бұрын
Imagine a total war game where positioning, morale, fatigue, and flanking matters.
@Sub0x-x40
10 ай бұрын
^this
@SuperSaiyanD48
10 ай бұрын
Unpopular opinion: Total War peaked with Shogun 2.
@manyfails
10 ай бұрын
@@SuperSaiyanD48 thats not unpopular its a fact
@TheLoki7281
10 ай бұрын
@@SuperSaiyanD48 rome 2 and attile were awesome as well. id say the good total wars were rome 2, shogun, medival 2, attila and empires
@slimdiddyd
10 ай бұрын
@@TheLoki7281Rome 2 was not good. Rome 1 was far better, otherwise I agree.
@amulet2350
10 ай бұрын
Small correction here: Shogun 2 very much gives a lot of autoresolve power to archers because for some reason it assumes that you can perfectly kite the AI. FOTS is the best example of this
@LegatusLigeratus
10 ай бұрын
This feels like a real army tactic that the Japanese would use. A bunch of sturdy field walls that the enemy commander is too dumb to figure out a way to get around. Would go in the history books for sure as one of those truly pivotal battles for sure!
@WockhartEnthusiast
10 ай бұрын
ive been playing shogun 2 since its launch and this is by far the most big brain play ive ever seen using the barricades
@Saladin.from.Athelloren
10 ай бұрын
Legend is still fucking Legend doesn't matter wich Game
@TaTvsU
10 ай бұрын
Yarimazing!
@xxxxKRPxxxx
10 ай бұрын
The staunch line of spears really made a comeback...
@andrewlynch1754
10 ай бұрын
What a title, what a thumbnail, what a channel.
@GeraltofRivia22
10 ай бұрын
Having a decent number of archers is still very useful in Shogun 2, since having ranged superiority is very important since the enemy likes to sit on hills. Not to mention sieges. Definitely not more than 10 per army though.
@cezarmagicchess3665
10 ай бұрын
If you bring more than 6 units of archers, you are dead meat from enemy cavlry. Cavlry is very popular in multiplayer.
@GeraltofRivia22
10 ай бұрын
@@cezarmagicchess3665 multilayer is a whole different ballgame. 4-8 archers is the ideal number in campaign. The AI is not the best at effectively using its cavalry.
@cezarmagicchess3665
10 ай бұрын
@GeraltofRivia22 I agree with you in campaign.
@zacharyraut151
10 ай бұрын
bro is making his mouse work overtime
@silentdon40k
10 ай бұрын
Imagine if skavenslave spears had the yari wall ability 😁
@dejannincic9671
10 ай бұрын
imagine if warhammer units had formations in general
@qwerasdf-oy6uo
10 ай бұрын
Tightly packed infantry in warhammer is just fodder for artillery and magic lol
@simonnachreiner8380
10 ай бұрын
Look up the “unit formation ultimate” mod. Lot of units start punching above their weight but oh god do aoe spells and anti-infantry artillery hurt. Corse that’s what cheese is for.
@loowick4074
Ай бұрын
@@qwerasdf-oy6uo you could just give them magic res in formation as dwarfs do use runes to blunt magic. Warhammer is geared to much into stats and point and click spells over tactics. It has gotten worse since then. But there's a few mods which help with that.
@pineapplefarmer7352
10 ай бұрын
Love seeing Ledge doing older TW stuff again
@JohnDoe-jv7gl
10 ай бұрын
Legend using the old "Julius Caesar Special." Turns out that shit works against more than just Gauls!! Loving the Shogun 2 content Legend!
@AxelHenx
10 ай бұрын
what if they would have build a wall around his wall? then he would have build an extra wall inside of his wall. roman wall races where hillarious :D
@josephwilkinson1610
10 ай бұрын
Still looks beautiful.
@Nota-Skaven
10 ай бұрын
historical spear units: end of an empire, linchpin of strategies Warhammer spear units: dies to the unit it's supposed to counter
@oliverhughes610
10 ай бұрын
Archer spam is definitely viable though, especially as Chosokabe.
@benlewis4241
10 ай бұрын
Harder on higher battle difficulties though- at some point you come across a army simply too big, and it falls apart.
@bradleyhicks7252
10 ай бұрын
Therapist: Skaven tactics aren't in Shogun 2, they can't hurt you. Skaven tactics in Shogun 2:
@jackpain7441
10 ай бұрын
I always used stand and fight on capture point in siege defense, just to show the enemy how chad I am. LOL.
@Vadelinoz
10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@antoniodelaugger9236
10 ай бұрын
If there is no enemy nearby your general while using stand and fight, he literally sits on a chair like a badass
@quint3ssent1a
10 ай бұрын
Warhammer 3 Legend: we corner camp with cavalry. Shogun 2 Legend: you are like little baby. Watch this. *Corner camps in the middle of a map.*
@Aikohitoshi
10 ай бұрын
Legend's brain actually requires extensive study
@Dolfy
10 ай бұрын
The yari walls can technically hit through the barricades to the units attempting to flank so that can be pretty useful in impassable terrain scenarios where units don't have to set up inside the barricades.
@BlacK40k
10 ай бұрын
I gotta disagree on Missile Infantry here. While the AI gets an accuracy bonus, the Chosokabe version of the bow infantry is still as strong or slightly stronger than the AI and he should definitely focus on getting the bow warrior monks and build his armies around them. Cavalry is overall too vulnerable to be effective but I don't know if this holds up with the Takeda version.
@drummerscotch2163
10 ай бұрын
I have played this game since day 1 and never knew you could run in yari wall as long as you do not click an attack order. Too bad CA took out a lot of tactics in their modern games.
@siberarmi
10 ай бұрын
You say cheese I say unorthodox millitary tactics.
@ABabineni
10 ай бұрын
Wow I have 650+ hrs in this game and I didn't know until know that ashigaru can run in yari wall hahah. Also this tactics was new to me, so it was very cool to watch this battle :)
@indosuprem2296
10 ай бұрын
is this modded warhammer 3?
@Szkrider
10 ай бұрын
Yes
@LegendofTotalWar
10 ай бұрын
playing as nippon
@bardinlegoret9552
10 ай бұрын
@@LegendofTotalWar cathay is looking weird these days
@simonkarsten272
10 ай бұрын
Legend was quite lucky the AI didn't have pit of shades
@AxelHenx
10 ай бұрын
did it look bether???
@logan666999
10 ай бұрын
When you thought you've seen everything from Legend, he pulls this off... LOL
@gabrielcoelhodev
10 ай бұрын
It was so rare to watch some videos because I was sick of Warhammer 3. This new historic series is a blast for me. Thank you legend.
@RenMagnum4057
9 ай бұрын
you've turned this entire situation into a Western Roman Empire settlement defense
@krossredvil167
10 ай бұрын
historical games rules! great video too legend.
@ntluck1592
10 ай бұрын
A simple trick to get Stand and Fight where you want them is to first dismount the general before using it. He will deploy where he is standing but either way, I don't see it as feasible in this battle anyway
@lemonorangegrape999
10 ай бұрын
That Chosakabe joke Brilliant
@willfeen
10 ай бұрын
tremendous. and let’s just take another moment to appreciate the game’s gorgeous soundtrack
@flopus7
3 ай бұрын
listening to these first few minutes would explain why I'm so bad at this game
@wolliveryoutube
10 ай бұрын
By far one of the most brilliant TW videos I’ve ever seen.
@johnmelia2339
10 ай бұрын
@legendoftotalwar Dude unlocked control group is shift+G Pains me that you don't know this 😂
@kristianjensen5877
10 ай бұрын
"Hehee, we are going to use deployeable walls to really screw over the enemy's pathfinding" - Legend of Total War "Wait, why are my units confused about pathfinding in these barricades?" - Also Legend of Total War
@tenchimuyo69
10 ай бұрын
Honestly not too far off from how sengoku era battlefields were. Just walls and gates deployed everywhere.
@dthendrick1
4 ай бұрын
I started playing total war because I love strategy and tactics. I wanted to emulate famous battle strategies used by legendary generals. Instead, I've mastered turtles and other cheese strategies that only work against brain dead AI lmao.
@Elsneakakaze
10 ай бұрын
I have 963 hours in shogun 2, I HAVE NEVER THOUGHT OF LAYERING THE DAMN BAMBOO WALLS. This was an incredible battle to watch legend thank you so much!!!
@pickleman40
10 ай бұрын
Got bored of WH and stopped watching your vids for a while and have been playing shogun the past few years, funny that everyone else seems to be going to same path, It's so much more interesting imo
@inductivegrunt94
10 ай бұрын
Absolutely disgusting and dishonorable tactics. Beautiful!
@asasdad1041
10 ай бұрын
well would fall apart at the POint that you could not get the archers out of the picture rome 2 make not lead them totaly unprotected like shogun 2 did i peronallly like archers even in field battles at best up hill in defense position protected by forest from counter archery yust to be sure too pull them of presction increasin regions with like 93 or choabe 98 or even better with bow monks prection unleast there are eltte troops or extrealy outnmubered there not much left of the enemy at meele point
@NotBadEnough.
10 ай бұрын
Glory .... and cheese to the shogun !!!
@Scythian_Rider
10 ай бұрын
Oda Nobunaga would be proud of you)
@qrangejuice8225
10 ай бұрын
0:50 So you're saying we should rely on... a staunch line of spears?
@123456gordon
10 ай бұрын
I'm surprised you still remember all the cheese there is for every particular Total War, especially because some things work in the opposite way in one game or the other. Always honoring the KZitem name lol.
@Gritty1983
10 ай бұрын
Legend, please stream the new old world campaign mod on TWW3, it looks incredible, 600 settlements, i think it'll do well for you
@Fang.1
10 ай бұрын
Imagine the enemy walking up to this and being like "Okay yeah I see what they've got going on here! We should definitely walk into that!"
@promnightdumpsterbaby9553
10 ай бұрын
When they refuse to get into position when in wall,manually press run on the little menu on the left. It works.
@jon-kaleb
9 ай бұрын
The odds don’t seem all that bad with classic tactics actually, Bow Samurai have a fair chance at Katana Samurai, especially since he is of the Chosokabe clan, wich has the best archers. Of course you would use the deployables and the retreat the archers as soon as the Katana Samurai get in range. The Yari Ashigaru form a powerful yari wall, wich gives them an edge in chokeholds between the barricades. Also consider the light cavalry as quite formidable if they charge into the rear of some Katana Samurai, as long as you manage to avoid the enemy’s Yari Samurai. His general is also much better, wich could help with the ashigaru moral problem, but if you manage to hold the line, this won’t be an issue anyway. In my experience, Yari Ashigaru fair better in line battles than their samurai counterpart when pitted against eachother, since they have longer spears and higher numbers in their individual units.
@ElTulipanNegro
10 ай бұрын
Shogun 2 campaign when? Seriously tho, nice video, keep up such great content. ❤
@gergelykocsis5657
10 ай бұрын
It is funny how this cheese is much less cheesy and almost realistic than any of the WH cheese
@fedrick1connery607
10 ай бұрын
This video blew my mind.
@Cyrus_T_Laserpunch
2 ай бұрын
One challenge I would like to set up someday is completly normal Shogun 2, except the yari wall is not available.
@TacoTomtheBomb
10 ай бұрын
That was a cool battle, fun to watch. Thanks Legend.
@josepheastham9717
10 ай бұрын
Jeff, the God of Cheese has visited us this day.
@baxterrhodes7542
10 ай бұрын
I would call this cheezy but Caesar proved how effective instant fortifications can be.
@paradiseisland69
9 ай бұрын
How do you get the deployebales?
@SuperAqua9
10 ай бұрын
If there is cheese, legend will sniff it out
@Ankhar2332
5 ай бұрын
This is what Sun Tzu was talking about
@LeoMajor1
10 ай бұрын
Legend it's not a secret you beat it once by yourself and then record. I think anyone would do that.
@marcoeire44
10 ай бұрын
Yea he has never posted one of these where he fails
@LeoMajor1
10 ай бұрын
@@marcoeire44 Well ofc not. I just hate it when he says "I can't send them that way there will prob be pathfinding issues" Well yea cause you just did it on your own xD
@milinmt
10 ай бұрын
If could like two time, I would ! You can't remove the skaven from the skaven and that great !
@shimmereyes8984
10 ай бұрын
And just like that, the Barricade Yari Wall was born. And that's why this channel is called "LegendOfTotalWar"
@psychodoxie6987
3 ай бұрын
Only missile unit you can spam is the otomo tercos because they are a ranged front line infantry
@robertmurry1442
10 ай бұрын
fucking glad to see you putting out content again... RL is a thing and when one needs a break the need a break... im just glad your back
@RTEducators
10 ай бұрын
video is only 7 days old? Good to see that people still post tactical videos for Total War Shogun 2. The funny thing is the moment I saw that you're taking a defensive stand with the barricade I know exactly what shenanigans you're going to do. The pathing for the AI is honestly quite dumb and highly abusable. Can't tell the number of times I've pulled off impossible battles with matchlocks and barricade combination. A lot of micro, but very satisfying when you've absolutely trashed the primary stack of the enemy with some cheapo stack shenanigans... I think one thing you forgot to mention is what level of difficulty the game is set at?
@Ryuko-T72
10 ай бұрын
Honestly expected you to keep the archers in the middle of a fort of the shields
@wisp6826
10 ай бұрын
How about do the exact same thing but make those corridors twice as long?
@undead9999
10 ай бұрын
Cheese. Glorious cheese!
@Glorfindeld2
10 ай бұрын
I'm new to Total War having only played Warhammers and Rome Remastered, so this is really interesting to see all the historical titles and how they played.
@liamserna
2 ай бұрын
I usually just run for the hiils and make a defence there, 80% chance of winning with an sufficient amount of ashigaru spear wall and a buttload of ranged units
@jayc342009
10 ай бұрын
I can see why people really love this game, the music and battles were quality
@MemekingJag
10 ай бұрын
This amount of cheese is cruel, the Japanese are lactose intolerant you know!
@gijskramer1702
10 ай бұрын
Field battle... legend builds a bungalow
@UniBritz
10 ай бұрын
Im loving the shogun content
@stormrunner4081
10 ай бұрын
You have heard of the yari wall Now you face a power much older and darker The yari cube
@klausmeine9586
11 күн бұрын
damn, why i dont have the deployable defences of matchlock ashigaru? xD is it because im playing the Darthmod ? love the vid!
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