Maastricht is actually a difficult area to move to. Even for an ethnic Dutch person coming from other parts of the country. Limburgers are mainly focused on other Limburgers and not outsiders. Culturally they might be closer to Belgians and Germans because of their geographic location. What also surprises people is how Dutch people form relationships with friends. Dutch people make friends when they grow up. And because it's a small country they can keep those relationships, even when moving to other parts of the country. Therefor Dutch people have no need to make friends at work or other places when they're adults.
@joopdesmit
Жыл бұрын
About Limburg specifically: Not very surprising either: If you see the map, you will understand that this area has been heavily contested over the last 2000 years. That means: regular war, continuously changing leadership, shifting loyalties. Knowing who you know becomes important. Roots. I know I can trust you because our great great great grandparents also trusted each other.
@burgienl
Жыл бұрын
@@joopdesmit Yes, when you look at the map it's actually odd that it ended up being a part of the Netherlands, when it would have been more logically to be a part of Belgium.
@XxXx-Evo
Жыл бұрын
Completely agree. I (dutch) temporarily worked in Limburg. But I never felt accepted. I would never want to live there.
@bellerose5013
Жыл бұрын
I was also thinking about moving from Berlin to Limburg. I lived at the border and was even allowed to visit my old neighbours in Limburg, who moved there from Germany. In the end, the loneliness shocked me. In Germany, you also like to interact with each other. Nevertheless, the Germans are more open and are happy about growth in the circle of friends. I’m now moving back to Berlin.
@xtinalucia3684
Жыл бұрын
Oh boy I’m moving there from the usa
@CaethesFaron
Жыл бұрын
I love your videos so much. Thanks for sharing a different perspective. It is important to see other people's experiences. It makes me sad that it didn't work out for Nicole, especially when she worked so hard and brought a good attitude to it.
@josphineogugua
Жыл бұрын
I’m glad you enjoy the videos Caethes and thanks so much for your comment. I also feel for Nicole and I hope she’s able to find somewhere she’ll feel happy to call home💕
@BigPharma-pe3mr
3 ай бұрын
Do I understand that you are trying to say: it only doesn't work for Nicole and people like her? Insinuating that these examples are only few people experiencing this negativity! If we do the math, you would be embarrassed of your limited research
@helena19741
Жыл бұрын
I left for a new opportunity and for the adventure of starting again new in a different country. I ended up living in 3 countries before I moved back. Living abroad makes you appreciate all the things you took for granted even more. I moved back because a great opportunity presented itself and because I wanted to be closer to my family and friends.
@josphineogugua
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Heleen for sharing. I’m glad you were able to explore and then made your decision to come back home.🤗
@thk420
4 ай бұрын
You are right about after living in USA (Florida) for 24 years i miss family and friends. I am moving back to Amsterdam in process of buying a apartment. There is no place like Amsterdam. Home sweet home.
@helena19741
4 ай бұрын
@@thk420 How wonderful for you! There is no place like Amsterdam! Welcome back!
@thk420
4 ай бұрын
@@helena19741 Not yet i am in process of purchasing an apartment. Hopefully soon. Thanks
@helloworld7818
2 ай бұрын
If you're dutch you don't count.
@johnc_450
Жыл бұрын
First thank you Josphine for the time you take to produce the wonderful videos. After growing up in America and coming to Europe (via US Army), I opted out and stayed in Germany where I meet my German wife. Nothing against America but the second love of my life is Europe, and that love extended to renouncing my citizenship and taking on the German citizenship. 1. Do I feel German just because I can speak, read and write German? No, I do not. Do I feel German just because I obtained the German citizenship? No. Do I regret the process? Never have and after 20 years, doubt I ever will. My experience is that, I was accepted and respected because I could communicate with Germans in my office and in my free time in their language. My opinion is that a foreigner taking on a new citizenship will not offer the feeling of being a full fledged citizen. You have the title, but did not go trough the growing pains while growing up in that country. There have been several conversations that I could not take part in because I did not experience the school system, or further education up to entering the workforce. But, on the other hand, I am not upset because I cannot take full part of these types conversations. It doesn’t make me feel less of a citizen, I just accept the fact and move on, I am the one that changed sides of the pond. 2. When starting out in a new country, I refused to move to a city when at the time I could speak English, and wanted the international experience. If I was looking for the international experience, I could have stayed in the US and moved to New York or Chicago. I told my wife that we should move to a small town in the suburbs where I no choice but to speak German. Later I realized the benefit of this. I was surrounded by the local language, and jumped into the German experience like jumping into cold water. I can say, the learning curve was immense and intense. But, later as my language skills improved, the locals (especially the neighbors) started to respect my efforts and gain the courage to correct my mistakes in a friendly manner. I felt as well, that they realized I didn’t expect to be accepted, but gained their respect for my efforts. Now days, I am just one of the locals that took on the citizenship. I am accepted as a full blooded citizen, but respected. But, to be honest, I don’t give a hoot what the others think. Sometimes it feels like they are proud to know someone that fought through the language learning process and took on their citizenship. 3. I would never have broken ties and pulled tents from my home country like she did. Especially on a whim and after a few weeks vacation. Vacation living is not the same as working and living. My wife and love NL. We have been known to vacation twice a year in NL. As Europeans we are coming close to retirement and even considering retiring in NL. Would I break off and just move? The answer is no. We plan to rent a place for a couple of months and test if we can adjust to retirement life in NL before we break ties. And maybe do this a couple of times during different seasons. Good, being a European, your not breaking all the ties. You just change governmental systems and learn a new language. If it does not feel right we have the option to move close to the boarder and enjoy both countries. I guess what I am trying to point out, is your mentality to the whole situation. There are times to jump in life without looking forward, and then there are times to look before you leap. Don’t expect everyone to accept you like you experienced in vacation. During vacation the new experience is wonderful to the point that you overlook the things that normally would upset you. Sometimes like when you have a new love in you life. After a while you start noticing the things that disturb you. I have experienced racism. Not because of my skin color, but my accent comes through at times, when I am asked if I was in the military or opted out for social services work. When I explain that I was in the US Army and became a citizen after my military period, I get a lot of uncalled for comments. There have been times that I did not get a job because of it or I was not invited to social events. As a German citizen, I have even experienced racism in NL. It bothered me at first, but then I decided not to waste my limited time on this earth to entertain their opinions. It’s a waste of time having a battle of wits against an unarmed person. Just keep in mind when thinking that the grass is greener on the other side and you want to take part in that beauty, it still needs maintenance and hard work to keep it that way..
@aheroyaheroyalproductions7631
2 ай бұрын
Sometimes life is not easy, People think in other country life is better."the grass is greenet on the over side" 🤔 Know people move more than 20 times, sometimes it's between the ears.
@letheas6175
Жыл бұрын
Damn. I could never leave, people tolerate me here, its safe, green, healthy there's bike paths. It's so far ahead of any other country I have been to.
@jakewillsuffice6938
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but if you can't get a home with enough rooms for your own family, at some point you will look abroad. Maybe just over the border.
@michalovesanime
Жыл бұрын
Euuhm don't want to be a negative nancy but the Netherlands isn't that healthy. Our air quality is one of the worst of Europe
@letheas6175
Жыл бұрын
@@michalovesanime Yet still, its people are healthy. There are enough indexes for that too. It's almost like, shocker, 1 metric (air quality) doesn't influence all of the healthiness that much.
@Morthox
Жыл бұрын
@@michalovesanime lol bullshit, spain france germany, all the big countrys much worser then NL we live next to the sea as a small country. only in the big city its worse. but all the other parts. just cleaner then all thos big countrys
@wout123100
Жыл бұрын
and as usual we never agree with each other, we call that poldermodel. sometimes i wonder how the h do those always complaining types have a live????? i only complain about the complainers hahahaah funny.
@co7013
Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the weather. A part of the people who are leaving are pensioners or even younger people that move to for example Spain or Portugal, where live is not just cheaper, but also the weather is more to their liking. And also some people want to have a more natural, less urban and density populated environment.
@josphineogugua
Жыл бұрын
This is a very valid point and thanks for mentioning this 🤗
@-_YouMayFind_-
Жыл бұрын
Yess but less jobs available.
@Aapjuhh
Жыл бұрын
Hi, I came across a video and from that very moment i watched multiple of your videos. Just wanted to tell you that i love you being so exciting, animated and cheerful in your presentation its a real joy to watch, the absolute highlight is how well spoken you are and the effort you put into each video, the knowledge and research you do about a topic, well done! Hope you continue for as long as you have fun doing this and share more of your experiences.
@josphineogugua
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Timothy, this means a lot. I appreciate you for watching and taking out time to comment and encourage me. 🤗
@marksecker6606
Жыл бұрын
You can have the Dutch nationality without being Dutch; you still have your roots in Nigeria or Australia or whatever. Point is most people do not care where you are from and we love that you make a contribution to our beloved country.
@josphineogugua
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark. I’m glad most people are really kind and friendly anyway🤗
@osococo8618
Жыл бұрын
Yes, I'm scottish but my mum is dutch so im eligible for dutch-British dual nationality :)
@sikterne
Жыл бұрын
that is bullsht. nazis only accept whites
@ohhi5237
6 ай бұрын
no you cant.
@ohhi5237
6 ай бұрын
you will never be dutch until you have that passport @@osococo8618
@SC18943
8 ай бұрын
I think you can validate how deep the issue is by reading Local’s comment here rejecting even her personal experience and sharing how she felt during her stay.
@mherdef
Жыл бұрын
My experience having lived in many countries and now landing in the Netherlands for a few years: I think you can have a quiet life in the netherlands as people are really indifferent toward your culture. Maybe they judge but they are not asking you really to be the same as them as they understand you are different (they really dont care about you haha). The negative part of it is the development of closed communities living here for a while as they dont mix with dutch even though sometimes living in the same neighbourhood. It is a multi cultural country for sure, but the less mixed i have lived in so far! I see much more diversity in other countries at corporate environments, relationships, friendships...Here i have the feeling everyone stays on his own or with people that look the same. That's again my own perception, u may be experiencing something different. Again we cannot having all it is all about you fitting in this environment. The downside here is that it is quite tough to have meaningful relationships, it mainly chit chat about the weather or what i have done last weekend or the next holidays. No room for spontaneous catch up if you did not plan a coffee 2weeks upfront :) All in all, i find Dutch really respectful and nice people though compared with some other european countries
@josphineogugua
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for sharing. I do agree with some points. The friendship circles are more closed and it requires extra effort sometimes. So people tend to mingle with those from their community or those they share common interests with.
@Paul_C
Жыл бұрын
Space. That is the main reason to leave.
@alexandersasson2107
Жыл бұрын
Ķoiioiiok
@on-the-pitch-p3w
Жыл бұрын
@@josphineoguguaplease don’t come to the Netherlands. It is already too crowded and no housing for you. Stay away please!
@mherdef
Жыл бұрын
@@charliemundo7998Yes. That's why it is better to be an entrepreneur and lead your life when you are moroccan in NL. Better than being the subject of other people perception of what they think you are.
@vexisonline
Жыл бұрын
I'm definitely feel that some of us can be quite narrow-minded, as is true for a lot of people all around the world. I'm sorry they felt they were not welcome enough or weren't accepted as a regular citizen, and I have been told roughly the same even though I was born here. At least I have learned that it wasn't my shortcomings that triggered that behaviour and I hope anyone who comes to live here will certainly learn that as well, preferably soon. There are unfiltered opinions everywhere, and there's no pleasing everyone. Having said that, I want to thank you for making this video, as some of us will be blissfully ignorant of the excessively restricted frame of reference a certain part of our otherwise grounded society can display.
@selma77190
Жыл бұрын
this is so true, I am Dutch Caribbean and is Witness the same thing i don't think i'll make it past 5 years either. the housing crisis is crazy.
@CultureCompassTV
Жыл бұрын
It's unfortunate to see the Dutch can be so unwelcoming, in contrast I've lived in the Philippines for 3 years and it felt like home there, my better home tbh.
@wout123100
Жыл бұрын
yeah , i wonder if you read the comments. some people wont fit in here, true.
@helloworld7818
2 ай бұрын
I agree. They're so closed off and only hang out with other dutch people. They make superficial friendships with immigrants but they're only nice superficially. They'd never invite you in their circles.
@dutchgirl2
Жыл бұрын
When I was 22 I left The Netherlands for good, and not one moment after 21 years do I miss the dutch mentality and my country.
@wout123100
Жыл бұрын
we dont miss you either.
@Alnivol666
6 ай бұрын
What exactly did you not like about the Dutch mentality? I just feel like people are so individualistic, lacking spontaneity and just difficult most of the time. They are nice but only on surface level.
@rob5psv
4 ай бұрын
@@Alnivol666 Where do you live?
@Alnivol666
4 ай бұрын
@@rob5psv netherlands
@rob5psv
4 ай бұрын
@@Alnivol666 No which region.
@jiordanov7855
Жыл бұрын
I live one and a half year in the Netherlands, but im leaving after two months. I like the country, its very peacefull, but its not for me. I have too many problems with institutions like banks, tax administration and municipality Everything here is so slow, i applied for a dutch course 4 months before in a certain university and im still waiting the letter with invitation for interview. It became very expensive, basically i work to can afford to eat and pay my rent (which is another subject) and i dont even smoke weed and go on party's like most of the people. The rent is expensive, but the problem is the condinition of the place, its full of mouses and rats, its very old and the price for a place like that its just insane. I tried to inform my landlord and the institutions for my problems, but nothing changed. I had a good and a very bad moments here, but in the end i've decide to moove back to my country, where the living standart for a educated guy like me its gonna be better!
@josphineogugua
Жыл бұрын
It’s really sad to hear the challenges you’ve faced. Thanks for sharing your story and I hope things are much better wherever you decide to settle.
@group555_
Жыл бұрын
That sounds like a terrible landlord, pretty sure those living conditions are against the law.
@-_YouMayFind_-
Жыл бұрын
The question is where did you rent? because its not expensive everywhere. In the cities yes but that is logical.
@wout123100
Жыл бұрын
again someone who tries to make a personal experience global.
@laurentk-e5b
24 күн бұрын
Thanks for your video. I am french and lived in amsterdam for 16 years. I bought also my place quite quite quickly. I had really great time. But i left in year 2021 to germany. Although i feel me most dutch even though today and i regret a lot having left the country there is one essential point you are mentioning in your video and you insist a lot is that. No matter you do you will never belong to. As you said learning dutch living fully in the culture they will always indirectly you do not belong to and that is a subtile game. Really a pitty as they are losing for this reason great people. Btw in year 2005 it was 10 years for the 30% tax rule and was glad to profit about it. Great video and thank you.
@Dutchbelg3
Жыл бұрын
I left the Netherlands to Belgium because of love. We had the choice and we chose the most convenient option in our situation. So nothing negative or forced to flee ;-) Many expats tell it is so difficult to get a house and so damned expensive.. well we are so loved that too many foreigners buy or rent a home in the Netherlands🙂😛 The Netherlands is not alone. Actually many Dutchies moved to the border area in Belgium! Why? Because it used to be more easy to build your own style of house in Belgium. In the Netherlands all residential building is usually done by big construction companies and you just have to settle for an available housing option. In Belgium houses are more unique and Belgians even used to design their own house !! Another reason is that in the Netherlands there is something called "wealth-tax". If you have a nice amount of money in your bank account the governement takes every year a small percentage.. Such a tax does not exist in the Belgium. Switzerland is beautiful and also loved by foreigners. But it is hard to be allowed to permanently live there. And it is damned expensive!! I think you know Josphine 🙂
@josphineogugua
Жыл бұрын
I didn’t know you were a lover boy Hans. Nice to see that side of ya😆😆. Anyway, thanks for sharing about Belgium, indeed the houses here are mostly already build to taste by the companies unless you buy a landed property (which is in my opinion for the rich😅). I recently learnt about the tax on assets and savings in the Netherlands which I find a bit strange since not all countries do this. Well, I’m here now and here to stay so I’ll cry about it and move on😄.
@-_YouMayFind_-
Жыл бұрын
here you can design your own home too I walk past them everyday by the way XD Just make sure that you earn enough money to live somewhere. Everywhere is more expensive now.
@Dutchbelg3
Жыл бұрын
@@-_YouMayFind_- IF a communion ( gemeente) allows self designed houses it is usually in a dedicated plot of land. And many limitations are in function. You definately can not do just anything you like, there are landschapsplannen you have to keep to. And it’s definitely not for an average budget!
@MathinusG
Жыл бұрын
Dear Nicole. There is no difference of acceptance in France, Spain the UK or elsewhere. So don't isolate the Dutch as the only problem. I've experienced the same in the UK and in the US.
@dan-ronso
Жыл бұрын
said the dutch...
@Morthox
Жыл бұрын
@@dan-ronso so? he is damn right, its everywere, not only in the netherlands. thats bullshit.
@dan-ronso
Жыл бұрын
@@Morthox so... it's wrong everywhere. If we just keep normalizing it and invalidating this violence, it's not going to change for better...so...next time you see it happening you scold who had this attitude. Simple as that.
@wout123100
Жыл бұрын
@@dan-ronso or maybe , accept reality as it is, it is not going to change because you dont like it. besides that i hear form many expats how the are accepted here very well, i think it depends a lot of how you are.
@LiamVolb
8 ай бұрын
Nah France is 10x worse but unlike the sutch being direct frenchies are hypocrite and more vicious in their ways to discriminate
@omolabakeejibunu9531
Жыл бұрын
Although I am still here meanwhile, God knows I am being as open minded as I can to getting better opportunities elsewhere. I worked and lived in Switzerland and France through the end of last year and I truly felt happy. Coming back to the Netherlands on new year's eve, there was this existential dread that dawned on me...I don't want to be here anymore. I quit learning the language, decided it would do me no good to move around. Decided to pick up learning German, french and Spanish instead and I am happy with my decision. I even feel more connected to Germany when I travel than I do with Netherlands and when I tell people I am African and I love the German language they look at me like I am crazy 😂. The Netherlands is a beautiful country but it's not as rose colored glasses. I don't see myself starting a family here because it's pretty much impossible to buy a house. The weather sucks, Dutch people don't make friends with internationals except those that travelled or lived abroad, institutional overt racism, doctors don't know what they are doing, huge huge taxes (honestly every middle income person makes the same amount after tax). It's ridiculous
@josphineogugua
Жыл бұрын
Hi Omolabake, It’s a pity that you feel this way about the Netherlands and I genuinely hope that you’re able to find somewhere else where you have a better experience and feel at home. I do recognise that the Netherlands isn’t perfect and is definitely not for everyone so I’m always of the opinion that people should explore options in as many countries as they want to and I hope they are able to find one they connect with. For me the Netherlands has been that country where I felt more at home regardless of the challenges and that’s why I’m happy to be here and to raise my family. I must say though that some of the issues you raised that are wrong with the Netherlands are still issues that are known to be common or even worse in the countries you’ve mentioned. Germany and France for instance have also been accused of systemic racism and closemindedness of the people (I don’t have an opinion on this as I’ve never lived in any of the countries, I’ve only visited). Switzerland has a higher tax rate than the Netherlands and is a much more expensive country (but indeed very beautiful) Regardless of what you choose, I hope you do the research really well for most of these countries so you don’t end up with similar complaints or disappointments as you’ve had with the Netherlands . All the best in your pursuits 🤗.
@helloworld7818
2 ай бұрын
Yes, dutch people don't make expat friends at all
@daytonarol3x
Жыл бұрын
Interesting comments here, I moved to the Netherlands from London England 3 years ago, I own my own property and learned the language, no country in the world is perfect..I have no problems with the dutch culture at all.
@richardnwachukwu234
11 ай бұрын
So long as you're far away from your home country, expect anything! Its the "World" out there... A lot of crazy and nice fellows you'll meet on a daily basis! And learn to detach emotions too as you'll only hurt yourself more holding so much importance to everything you hear from mean humans who're probably just out to try to break you up!
@noammimon
Жыл бұрын
I’ve been here for over 5 years and I’m trying to leave the Netherlands. It’s a cold place. Can’t wait to leave it behind.
@josphineogugua
Жыл бұрын
It’s sad to hear how you feel after five years but I really wish you the very very best wherever you choose to move to 🫶
@noammimon
11 ай бұрын
@@josphineogugua thank you. You’re so sweet
@Goodman849
5 ай бұрын
Yes I agree it's cold
@rob5psv
4 ай бұрын
@@noammimon Where did you live?
@jackdunn3235
4 ай бұрын
Totally agree. In the same situation.
@m.e.visser4976
9 ай бұрын
I’m as Dutch as they come. My Mother was Friesian, my Father a Twent. I have dark hair and even I got told to go back home, hahaha. There are stupid people everywhere. Don’t let those anecdotel Idiots ruin your experience!
@amosamwig8394
2 ай бұрын
I want to leave aswell, but have to be patience, what an expensive country, glad I dont have to retire here, depressing.
@tvworkshoptravelandeventsasia
4 ай бұрын
Nice video Josphine Ogugua! I'm born Dutch and I left already 10 years ago to first Singapore and now living just under Singapore in Batam Indonesia. Running my company in Holland, i got a bit sick of paying to much to much tax😐! So i picked up the business and moved it to Singapore! Best tax system in the world:)! Even better when you have a Singapore company and living in Indonesia😂! Revenue first world country paid out in Indonesia, for sure recommended! Still love the Netherlands but it is not my country anymore. Love to come back for 2 weeks in Holland but even better when i fly back to Asia! Success with your channel:)
@Roggen45
9 ай бұрын
I was born and raised in the netherlands, and i have to say i do not care where you're from, what language u speak, what you're religion is or how much you make yearly. What i do not understand is why within 2 months she already moved here, that's not nearly enough time to actually do research about the country itself, the people or the cities you wanna live in, second the Dutch she did speak i could barely understand so to say she already speaks Dutch is to arrogant for me, learning Dutch would be a better word for it, third if you want to live in a county why keep different passports/nationalities that to me is already stating i wanna live there but do not want the nationality aka i dont want be Dutch and forth but simply not least ( i live in Groningen ) the least populated part of the country and i see alot of people from different countries moving here first thing they do is find people that speak their language to communicate with, they do not make an effort to even talk or integrate with the Dutch, so how can they expect the Dutch to accept them if they do not accept the Dutch ( if i wanted to move to a different country i wouldn't mind giving up my dutch passport especially if i want to live in that country i moved to )? Now im not saying this goes for all immigrants, there are probably plenty that actually do try and get shut down by dutch people, my personal experience is i have yet to see those people. Anyways thanks for the video, i do hope you have a great life here and you seem like a great person willing to learn about us "closed off" stubborn Dutch people 😂😂👍.
@Dianaranda123
2 ай бұрын
The thing is, its mostly the very behaviour of said immigrants. Like the Morrocan ones who came, and all behave and identify more with there Morrocan roots, and getting rather criminal in there behaviour. Also, she picked Limburg, we are rather attached to our Limburgse identity, not persee the Dutch identity. And learning the Dialect is incredibly important to us, Heck its pretty based if a foreigner actually learns the Limburgers local dialect. Then we have all the issues that are happening in all Major cities, Multiculturalism is something the Dutch even voted AGAINST many times. We didnt want to be multicultural, it was simply forced upon us by the managerial rulers after WW2. The Dutch simply wished to remain Dutch, this is no longer the case in the Major cities, if you step into a classroom in say Amsterdam, its all full of children of immigrants, and they dont behave in the way Dutch kids would.
@nick63837
Жыл бұрын
I live in the Netherlands...want to go back to Greece but greek economy is trashy..Its a beautiful country but very expensive and cold.
@josphineogugua
Жыл бұрын
I can relate to the weather 😆 but it’s indeed a beautiful country
@positivenergylife
Жыл бұрын
Common. Back in my homecountry things are just super bad, I mean super super bad… I will do a lot to be able to live in any other country at this point but to me if you are a fighter The Netherlands is great. I have met people who didn’t like something about me, but that’s too easy to give up after hearing someone being upset with themselves actually…
@josphineogugua
Жыл бұрын
I can understand this for sure. I think living in a different country demands some type of resilience and tough skin. The Netherlands is a beautiful country no doubt but not everyone will love you and welcome you with open arms.
@latestupdate119
Жыл бұрын
People leave America UK Canada and even Germany... People will always have a reason to leave
@wout123100
Жыл бұрын
actually i think it is a healthy thing if there are always a good amount of people on the move !!
@eelco_de_haan
Жыл бұрын
if your from an indirect communicating culture or a group centered culture than you would probably have some problems fitting in. with the whole feely emo thing of not being offended and being accustomed with cultural inefficient politeness.....yeah that would be shocking to those people, realizing how we think and express ourselves. every country i've been in there are people that don't like outsiders. difference is that they probably won't admit in public or keep it covert. i lived in indonesia and there i was not wanted by some, due to being mixed dutch indonesian.....but they still smiled in my face while detesting me when i didn't looked. i rather have people honest and open on their stance. it makes accepting another point of view or difference in principle easier. makes discussion functional, etc. without starting a witchhunt towards another opinion or resolve in violence! as that freedom of expression is accepted! don't you see that? only real racism in contrast to simple ignorance i only notice when going abroad. doen't matter if the main populace is white black or colored a lot have a negative stance towards outsiders that are not only there as tourist. if you think netherlands is bad to outsiders, ou probably would never feel welcome anywhere. than it is not for you, everybody that is raised in another culture will never fully assimilates with people being raised there! you don't have to be! perfectly fine and accepted to be a non dutch citizen. you are great as you are. i don't like some dutch either, but don't blame that on them being dutch or not, but if i like the indivdual on a personal level or not. i can never be zulu or apache, i can live in the same place, but always be seen as not indigenous! as i am not indigenous. seems quite logic and factual. doesn't mean i am not accepted..... weird ass thought process.
@DymokKumok
11 ай бұрын
Thank you for your video! I'm planning to spend 5 months in the Netherlands as a research fellow and I'll try to find out if an idea to move to the Netherlands and to get a Dutch sitizenship is good for me. But I have one question. Is it really necessary to strive after becoming Dutch in the Netherlands in the 21nd centuary? Don't people have an opportunity to be who they are in the Netherlands?
@co7013
Жыл бұрын
I don't know where that woman learned Dutch, but there are quite a lot of people from Dutch origin in Australia, so that might be a part of it.
@-_YouMayFind_-
Жыл бұрын
Really? never heard of that.
@wout123100
Жыл бұрын
@@-_YouMayFind_- nou en of hoor.
@mcouzijn
Жыл бұрын
I'm looking at some statistics concerning immigration and emigration in The Netherlands in the past ten years. Numbers are from CBS Statline. Immigration (x 1,000) 2012: 158 2013: 164 2014: 182 2015: 204 2016: 230 2017: 234 2018: 243 2019: 269 2020: 220 2021: 252 2022: 401 As you see, immigration has greatly increased from ten years ago (about 60% more, which is huge). And is has exploded in 2022, because 401.000 immigrants is an exceptional number, given the size of our country and population. Now let's look at the emigration numbers. Emigration (x 1,000) 2012: 144 2013: 145 2014: 147 2015: 149 2016: 151 2017: 154 2018: 157 2019: 161 2020: 152 2021: 145 2022: 173 This is quite another issue. No 'great increase' throughout 2012-2021. And one incidental increase in 2022 (10% more than usual). It means that people actually WANT to move to The Netherlands, but obviously NOT MANY people like to leave. If we add the numbers, we arrive at a total of 2,6 million people who immigrated to The Netherlands, while only 1,6 million have left our country in the same time. A net result of 1 million people EXTRA in only one decade. Hence the obvious shortage of houses, and prices skyrocketing, disadvantaging all people who want to live here and pay the rent or mortgage. Now, WHO WERE these people going in and out of our country? CBS Statline has the answers. 90% of immigrants were non-Dutch; and more than 80% of emigrants were non-Dutch. Even in the excessive year 2022 which you address, only 16% (one out of six) emigrants were Dutch. Thus, the huge increase in *emigration* is mainly caused by *immigrants* who leave the country (for instance, because they could not get a staying permit), hardly or not by Dutch people 'fleeing' the country for whatever reason.
@wout123100
Жыл бұрын
shhh numbers might be scary for some, they are facts , not my opinions.
@marksecker6606
Жыл бұрын
Also I had to laugh about that part of the video about the Pokemon; the Netherlands is very crowded and ver compact or compressed. So yes having those pokemon players; which is insanely popular here, standing at your front door is extremely annoying. I had one of those hotspots or whatever they call them in front of my house and I actually had to contact the creators to remove it from their map. The lady is easily offended and a bit of a Karen; that indeed does not go well with our directness and our mentality.
@DenUitvreter
Жыл бұрын
Indeed, she's an entitled Karen. And she wouldn't be the first pokemon player who believes that's an excuse for rude behaviour. I even had one on private property who believed is game was a good reason to be there and I would understand.
@RavenL1337
Жыл бұрын
Lool making excuses and thinking she didn’t know what how to be discreat?.?? So way tell some one to go back in your country ?. Stop making shity excuses fror racist remarks
@alandbs329
Жыл бұрын
Your “directness” is what I call “pig ignorant”. I’ve seen many Dutch people comment on people weights/height/clothing etc,,, rudest people I’ve ever met. Remember that time they kicked Xabi in the chest in the World Cup final? - exactly. Animals. 🙋♂️😅
@MegaReception1
3 ай бұрын
If your wanting to live in social housing your wanting the dutch people to support your living expenses. And that's OK if you're from the Netherlands but not that ok if you're not , this puts a strain and burden on the tax system after all the dutch governments commitment should be to the dutch people first. Many immigrants move mostly for economic reasons today with the excuse that they are refugees and that's understandable but costly to the host and we all know how the dutch feel about there money (let's go dutch). Greetings from Panamá
@patricklebens6602
Жыл бұрын
And to Jason I'd like to say, tell them :) loop naar de kloten,ik ben er al. direct and to the point.
@spvdijk
Ай бұрын
As I understand she married a native Dutch. The altercation she had with a Dutch may be just because she did break some unwritten rule and quite severely and responded in a nasty way.
@deegee-zi5xm
4 ай бұрын
That's one good thing about America... if your there long enough they will accept you as American.
@A.Dude.
8 ай бұрын
Interesting... Being a US citizen, not born in the US, I can't see myself as an emigrant, never did... You talk at the end of the video about your kid...It never crossed your mind that by the moment you decided to go and live there, it will affect your entire life and the life of your kids as well... The reason why that is, is because YOU decided to live there, you were not invited to live there and that is a big difference. You speak at the beginning of this video about social housing... Guess what; here in the States the social housing is at ZERO! End of story. You speak about migrant crisis... Guess what; the south US border is literally flooded by millions of migrants and most of them make it in... These are not reasons for people to leave Holland. I bet it's the communist politics and the way people are treated by government. There is hope still after the peasants party arose and after the last elections, which some call to be won by the "extreme right", but only because they lost the political compass... I mean, most of the Dutch voted for that party and that's what a democracy is all about; the will of the many... The lady in your story is a professional emigrant or a citizenship collector... There must be a reason not being able to adapt at least in one of the countries in which she holds citizenship. To the people not so much afford of newcomers, I'd say it could be due to tax brakes, which are not given to struggling locals, who in fact have to pay for those brakes... If you're skilled and you hold a skilled job (aka well paid job), you don't need another tax payer to come-up with more taxes to cover yours... And there is that language, which makes anyone believe the person is about to vomit... Many newcomers can't learn that and understandably why; next they leave... I can't find a single reason for anyone to move there, but it is what it is...
@luckyamoka6846
Жыл бұрын
Leaving next month because the country is depressing. Also, the government doesn't want us after all done so.... Yeah.
@omolabakeejibunu9531
Жыл бұрын
Amen to that!!
@wout123100
Жыл бұрын
wow really?
@amosamwig8394
2 ай бұрын
I dont blame you, money hunting country
@fbabarbe430
Ай бұрын
If you are Arab or African with no appropriate skills, than understandable.
@brianmaphar9685
Жыл бұрын
We (my family and I) are Dutchies, but moved to Canada 7 years ago. The grass is always greener on the other side, and for Canada and us that holds true. I lived in Holland/The Netherlands for over 35 years, born and raised. Owned a home, got married and my kids were born there. I lived mostly in de Randstad, near Delft (Voorburg and Rijswijk), but also lived in Zwolle and Weert. Lack of space (and nature); over populated; narrow minded/limited in reaching potential; plethora of rules and regulations; bicycles; sports; are all reasons for me and my family to leave Holland/The Netherlands. It took us almost 9 years of preparation to make the move, so it wasn't an ad hoc transition. And even then you come across things that you didnt know before, when you finally moved. Like I said, not all is great here, but the pros far outweigh the cons. Don't be discouraged. The cost of living is actually higher here then we have ever experienced in The Netherlands. Now, after 7 years, we can see what the differences are between The Netherlands and Canada. Some major flaws are within the educational and the health system (in comparison to what we knew, back in Holland). Even with these flaws, there is not 1 moment that we think of returning back to Holland/The Netherlands. Like the lady says in the video: we, too, are not able to become Canadian Citizens, due to The Netherlands not allowing double passports (see 1 of reasons to leave: rules/regulations). For me, I'm not fully OK with this, but want to keep my Dutch passport. Of course any situation is different and no 2 points of view are the same. I see you are doing alright in your new Home country and we are here. Unfortunately not all experiences are the same. IMO you can not make the decision to move to another country post haste. Thank you for posting this!
@-_YouMayFind_-
Жыл бұрын
Rules are there for a good purpose XD
@kwamintaylor4247
2 ай бұрын
I just watched her video earlier
@smithyemilia8572
Жыл бұрын
Please, can you do a video on how to get Netherland resume
@JalanJalanAjah
Жыл бұрын
I am now in The Netherlands, finished my Master, looking for a job but finding new apartment is even more scary😢. I probably will go back to my country Indonesia next year.. not sure.. but will see.
@wout123100
Жыл бұрын
yes, the housing here, and that wont be solved within 10 years , i am afraid. cause, badly managed by the governmnet over the past 20, 30 years and increasing immigrants.
@muhammaddimasputra6088
Ай бұрын
Gimana skrg?
@rggot2relax
6 ай бұрын
I only hear one argument and the fact she has to pay more taxes. Not very convincing. This is going to happen everywhere. I don't think most Dutch people are that way. I'm black but I'm sure if a white person goes to an African country they will experience this too. Not that that makes it ok but that's the way some people are.
@StevanOutdoor
Жыл бұрын
I think the Dutch nationality should be totally exclusive and no other second nationality allowed. Yes even for the 'queen'. Of course the people can stay on an permanent permit. They just can't vote in elections. If I move to Thailand I will never be accepted as Thai. Move to Colombia and still be the 'gringo'. I think a lot of people moving out are actually older people who want a warmer climate. So far I only get visitors who want to live in The Netherlands.
@JHatLpool
Жыл бұрын
I am curious. Exactly what is 'the authentic Dutch experience' ?
@wout123100
Жыл бұрын
uh uh that does not exist....
@neliz8
6 ай бұрын
Don"t live in the randstad, then you live in the real Netherlands.
@lingli314
Жыл бұрын
Wow! here in Canada we don't have like social housing. You have to loan for a home mortgage. Meaning you must have a stable job and 10% down payment to get a loan to any bank.
@neliz8
6 ай бұрын
Here you pay over 250000 euro to buy a normal house, a lot of people cannot get a mortgage. 10 20 years ago one could get a mortgage with a minimal wage, those days are gone thanks to the government and the EU.
@jasonwright9405
4 ай бұрын
Canada loves too much money tax tax tax tax pathetic govt
@windmill10
Жыл бұрын
You titles are becomming too click baity!
@wout123100
Жыл бұрын
every youtuber does that.
@-_YouMayFind_-
Жыл бұрын
I think she might have said something to that guy about what she didn't liked about Maastricht or the country because otherwise he would not have said: 'then go back home'. That is a thing that some people say when a foreigner or expat or whatever even a tourist says to a local that they don't like it. Not everybody says that and I do think that she mentions just a few examples of it so I don't actually think that it was the main reason why she left. You are not going to move away just because of 3 moments where you didn't feel accepted. At least that would be very suprising to me. If that is the case then she will have a hard time in other countries too.
@josphineogugua
Жыл бұрын
I understand your point here. I also think really depends on the individual and how much they can tolerate. What may be nothing to someone may be a great deal to someone else. I do hope the best for her as she starts her life somewhere else
@bernizuigzoen5602
Ай бұрын
Iam irish and have lived in THE naderhand fo 44years and I know I will NEVER be a naderlander I have my naderlands passport and I will. Never be a naderder for the only reason it’s NOT possible my son in a naderlander his fathe is a Nederland historical. Feeling like your Anything in life are just feelings and are personal Notting more Notting lest please live youlife be happy stop claiming stuip things like I am a naderlander or an Africa just live be happy
@tweebaco7853
2 ай бұрын
So she was playing Pokemon Go... Someone told her she was invading private property? That was the reason she wasn't feeling welcome in the Netherlands? I mean... I also think just go home...
@zwartepanter8
11 ай бұрын
dutch law says to un do a leas 1 month notis she got ript of 1 of the problems with prived rent imm dutch and was in the same boot but new the law
@rudemanpatti
Жыл бұрын
My dad is from Indonesia en my mum is from the Netherlands.... so in a way I am second generation immigrant (partly) Still I got sometimes the same remark towards me... go back to you own country :) I am like you.... I don't realy care about it. I always think... people who say this are not educated and short sighted . I don't take it personal. So I am a little surpriced that someone would leave just because some people are ignorant and tell you to go back.
@dealer_topwar
Жыл бұрын
Oh I wish I could leave this country. Terrible place...
@airconditionedrelco7099
Жыл бұрын
yeah and in 2022 401,351 people moved here so way more than you claiming to have left. immigration is one big problem in the netherlands there are a lot of welfare seekers but we cant accept everyone. build your own country up like we did in the past
@jasonwright9405
4 ай бұрын
500k immigrants fled here Australia last January and made my blood boiling 🥵
@RedHanded1969
11 ай бұрын
She should hv move to Amsterdam, a more ethnically diverse city.. But those 2 experiences are nothing of what she would experience as a native Filipino even in the Phillipines.. She needs to be more open minded..
@Anonymous-sb9rr
Жыл бұрын
"this type of behaviour, especially from some Duchies, could actually make someone to up and leave" Well, that's exactly the point isn't it?
@joebloggs2473
Жыл бұрын
What is Dutch, German, French or any nationality?
@DenUitvreter
Жыл бұрын
It means you have a goverment to serve you, on a territory it has jurisdiction of.
@wout123100
Жыл бұрын
it is really silly, i agree, i am a world citisen. you are born somewhere and they claim you....
@neliz8
6 ай бұрын
@@wout123100Well always better than a one world government.
@Catherine_2571
14 күн бұрын
Need to turn off all free benefits and the situation will fix itself.
@elisabethadams4404
Ай бұрын
Yes don t move to the netherlands difficult. Place to live in !!!!!!!!
@pascalernest3985
Жыл бұрын
Please I have a question. What is their government doing about the hate and discrimination? These things need to be legally tackled because the world is not moving backward but forward. So, Whats the Netherlands govt doing about it?
@-_YouMayFind_-
Жыл бұрын
Lol first of all the government can not do anything about what 1 guy was saying to her. This is not happening a lot and besides of that this can happen anywhere. People should understand the frustration of people that live there and know that our country has a housing crisis even though more and more immigrants come in. How are these people even getting a house. They are still building homes, but everyone in the Netherlands feels this too. Hate and discrimation is happening everywhere.
@wout123100
Жыл бұрын
really? you serious?? people over here can get fined if they are openly rascist or set up to hate. thsi was typical a her issue.,, bad resaerch and very sensitive.
@Ozymandias1
Жыл бұрын
Why would you want to live in a country where 40% of the local youths want to emigrate? Enjoy the bad weather and paying high taxes!
@tyroneedemirah3856
Жыл бұрын
The Netherlands belong to the Dutch. Africans should focus instead on improving conditions in their home countries.
@trickyardi
6 ай бұрын
You are literally confirming the point of aussy lady
@Alnivol666
6 ай бұрын
Not anymore, my friend. Advise to make some nice visits to the big Dutch cities. Nothing Dutch about the city centers except the houses.
@ssp99077
4 ай бұрын
Looking at your name and last name you may have roots in other countries. ;) I have met many people who claimed to be Dutch and thinks they own the country. When you dig deeper you see they have origins in France, Indonesia, Germany, Ireland etc. It is a strange delusion to think that you own a piece of land/country in the universe. :) British King thinks he is coming from a noble blood line and you are inferior to him. There is no end to this superiority complex.
@Alnivol666
4 ай бұрын
@@ssp99077 Dutch are a people. H Just stop it. Only Europeans are not allowed to take pride in their people. Everyone else can. Ridiculous
@ssp99077
4 ай бұрын
@Alnivol666 Nobody said that. Having pride in your country and defining an identity no matter how shallow it is is a right but when you cross to the side of a superiority complex then it becomes a problem in the social domain. When I look around I see this superiority complex in the Western Europen countries. Probably due to the colonial past. That causes a lot trouble and covert and systematic racism which prevents even the 2nd 3rd generation immigrants of equal opportunities.
@patienceoduwaoyegue55
Жыл бұрын
You are on your own, that is how it is 😅
@azcactusflower1
Жыл бұрын
15:35 Me either 😅 Doesn't matter where you live, if you make another's opinion of importance to steer your life, take the steering wheel. Nicole featured in your video, her voice sounds American, that's a plot twist for me 😅
@josphineogugua
Жыл бұрын
I also thought about the accent but I remembered many people pick up American accent even from movies so I didn’t think much of it. I think it requires some level of growth and maybe experience to get to a point where people’s opinions do not count… I’m glad you don’t let things bother you much too👌🏾
@frankgeurts3912
Жыл бұрын
Lack of space, expensive,and its getting criminal
@josphineogugua
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing👌🏾
@RIZFERD
Жыл бұрын
Even world map is wrong since Mercator projection 1569. Indonesia the real richest nature, the real global superpower even before USA was born, exactly on the center of the equator line is the center of oldest advanced civilization. They've been drawing this world's largest archipelago too small since Mercator projection 1569, Real Indonesia is Huge with 3 timezones GMT +7, +8, +9, they west, middle east and surroundings are liars are fraudulent with everything even at formal education, even Coffee is also native to Indonesia not brought by the Dutch. And Amsterdam, Paris, etc are just villages to our standards. Jakarta and Tokyo are the only 2 greatest megapolitan in the world, and Jakarta is 2021 world's best sustainable transport city. Yet, Jakarta is even much Greener than Tokyo. Jakarta only is 6x size of Paris, Europe's largest city. And Jakarta isn't sinking that bad as they've told you, solutions are on going. I made the great decision to let my other 5 years residence permit to waste, and returned back to Indonesia after lived there 2002/2003-2010, I had my 5 years before and I refused to be Dutch, the worst nationality ever, eternal criminals here in Indonesia, yet very ungrateful ones the whole country and the rest of Europe were and still are built from Indonesia's wealth, even their royals, king and queen are dumb as hell. Whole country is just a small village to compare to Indonesia's standard. What double standard? Western world standard is the lowest in the world, your very poor nature all reflect in your day to day life even your food and beverages are the poorest in the world. Some of the poorest country in everything I have ever lived in. And Dutch language is one of useless languages in the world and I am fluent in Dutch too, unlike Indonesian is becoming popular in well educated countries including our neighbors/cousins Australia, The Philippines, Japan, South Korea, etc. Europe, UK, USA, whole western world in general and middle east will always be the real criminals, poorest natural resources in the world. Real Rich Never Colonize Others ;) Well Karma Never Sleep including their luxurious brands with fake exotic ingredients not native to them then they claim real, that's fraud! Real Third World Countries Has Been Always Western World And They'll Always Be The Roots of All Corruption Including The Middle East And Surroundings. Very Poor Natural Resources And Always Conquering Others With Violence. Yet you people around the world are just never evolved apes not a multiracial not multilingual never been living around the world all alone since childhood stuck inside your tiny boxes your entire life. Born a complete multiracial multilingual Indonesian, I also have partial Europeans-Middle Eastern-African blood and not proud of it. Living around the world all alone since childhood Motherless since I was almost 3 years old, Mother passed away too early with younger sister right after her birth. Had so many nannies and maids but they could never replace Mother.
@reins981
Жыл бұрын
The Dutch are like Robots
@wout123100
Жыл бұрын
you mean, like you?
@clyubove
Жыл бұрын
Oh my god! Can you stop saying “OK” almost every sentence?
@josphineogugua
Жыл бұрын
No 😆
@wout123100
Жыл бұрын
@@josphineogugua bravo, best answer, and as you can say , the average dutch does not exist.
@wout123100
Жыл бұрын
yeah, if a few bad experiences make you move on, it can happen, we have idiot right wing people to that say, go home , sadly, also i think it is a very local; experience,, the first 1 2 3 reasons, very very valid yes.
@subashthapa6750
Жыл бұрын
Hlo mam
@wooisdebaanhoof
Жыл бұрын
The south of Limburg is very beautiful and nice to visit, but even people from the north of Limburg would not move to live there. The mentality towards people (even 100% dutch born) from outside the area is terrible. It is a very closed community and if you don't speak the local dialect you will never be accepted.
@josphineogugua
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this. I always thought it was the same culture. I’ve not been to Maastricht myself but I’m hoping to have a better experience when I visit. Fingers crossed 🤞😆
@taunteratwill1787
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣
@moontje1979
Жыл бұрын
People are leaving the Netherlands mostly because they are tired that you hardly can rent a house here , the parlement only lie and it is to expebsive to have a normal healthy life here . If i had the money and oportunity to leave ,i would leave right away. Question for you : where you born here or moved to the Netherlands and what is your opinion about how it goes atm in our country?.
@josphineogugua
Жыл бұрын
Hi Simone, thanks for your comment. I am Nigerian and moved to the Netherlands about 3 years ago. I’m fairly new so I might not see all the pitfalls as you see them. I think the cost of living crisis has been the one that hit the most for me. I was lucky to find a place to stay when I moved.
@johnveerkamp1501
Жыл бұрын
Biggest mistake in your life ,to leave. eVERY OTHER COUNTRY IS ONLY WORSE.
@marishkamountson2756
2 ай бұрын
KAUD
@janvandoren8910
Жыл бұрын
I find it a bit naïve to move to a country based on a single holiday experience. If she would have done her home work she would have learned that Limburg is the hardest part to integrate and be accepted when you move there. As someone else mentioned here…. even for Dutch locals that move there from other provinces.
@ohhi5237
6 ай бұрын
try friesland, and youll question if youre in a different country
@philippeansaloni6660
Жыл бұрын
Leaving soon to Belgium because after being here 1.5 years cannot find a not precarious place, e.g. still living illegally somewhere....wile having a full-time job speak the language have 15k in savings and both parents that can backup me legally in renting It's really a shame and inhumane I'm half dutch so I speak the language and have a dutch passport and was even born here but grew up abroad People are so passive aggressive, really not direct, and if you don't look-behave-speak accentless dutch I always get spoken to in English!!! In my own mother country!!! It's depressing and making friends its impossible, only people I bond with are other foreigners
@ohhi5237
6 ай бұрын
15k lol sorry but lol
@rob5psv
4 ай бұрын
Where did you live?
@kendalbrenneman
Жыл бұрын
I am sort of involuntarily here. I moved during the lockdowns from France to be with my boyfriend. I can’t regret being with him but I am miserable here. I’m a grown adult and we are living in his fathers house because we can’t afford a place to live. I dread having energy bills of our own here. It’s too expensive and you barely get any space from what I see in rental listings. I want to leave so badly.
@Alnivol666
6 ай бұрын
Find another boyfriend I would say. :) Quality of life is important. There are housing opportunities in the Netherlands, but not in the big cities...so maybe want to check if you can live in other places. Where do you live? How come you two together do not make enough to be able to rent something together. You can find a house for 1200 euro a month, but again..not in the vicinity of the center of a big city.
@kendalbrenneman
6 ай бұрын
@@Alnivol666 If I leave him, I'm committing to a life of singleness, honestly. It's too hard to find a good guy. We hired a company that uses a bot and also manually combs through listings from hundreds of websites, and what they come up with under €1500 is maybe one or two listings a week. We are only one income right now - mine. Once we move he will begin his job search again, since we are trying to move to a different area and we don't want him needing to commute 2+ hours each day.
@ohhi5237
6 ай бұрын
at least you have free housing imagine how hard it would be for him to find a job in france, same kind of impossibilty
@hunchbackaudio
Жыл бұрын
My uncle left in the seventies for Norway and when I visit I see why. But I’ve also seen people leave and be back in no time. I guess the grass always seems greener on the other side. I’m going nowhere 😊
@josphineogugua
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha. I’m glad you’re going nowhere 😆😆😆… Norway is beautiful, I noticed many Dutchies move to Scandinavia which I find interesting..
@hunchbackaudio
Жыл бұрын
@@josphineogugua Norway, Sweden and Denmark are culturally very similar to the Netherlands and the language relatively easy to pick up, speaking Dutch and English already. So Dutchies blend in pretty easily. I guess that helps. On the other hand you find Dutchies all over the globe, expect to hear Dutch all of the sudden, no matter how remote the place is 😂
@josphineogugua
Жыл бұрын
@@hunchbackaudio I was in Sweden last year and I found the words really similar to Dutch. My husband could already guess the meaning of some words as his Dutch is very good. I always thought it was only Nigerians you find everywhere on the globe but coming to think of it, I remember overhearing a family speaking Dutch on a tourist visit I had to Barcelona… I was just smiling in my mind as I could understand a bit what they were saying. 🤪
@hunchbackaudio
Жыл бұрын
@@josphineogugua Never think you can speak openly in Dutch an expect no one to understand abroad😂 I noticed Nigerians are very outgoing as well, there's a big community in Amsterdam southeast and we live in the small city of Amersfoort and I know there a small Nigerian church close to our home.
@josphineogugua
Жыл бұрын
@@hunchbackaudio for sure, someone could be hearing exactly what you’re saying 😆. I’ve heard about the big Nigerian community. I attended a Nigerians Independence Day event in Amsterdam too so I’m glad to have connected with a few people. 🤗
@geertjejansen1974
Жыл бұрын
I feel bad and sad that people leave the Netherlands because people tell them to 'go home'. Please also know that i think you will sooner be confronted with someone with a negative point of view on this than with people who are fine with immigrants. At least in a real life situation. You will unfortunately find racists and xenophobes everywhere in the world. Please know that those people do not represent all of a country, and definitely not all of the Netherlands. I am a dutchie myself
@mavadelo
Жыл бұрын
Probably because the racist people are the vocal ones. Someone that is ok with immigrants will see them and pass them like they do with anyone else... it is just another person to them. Racist will let you know how much they hate you at every turn. I am convinced that a fast majority of Dutch people have no issues with immigrants and new Dutch at all.
@888records
Жыл бұрын
I think it is also important to realise that people are less racist in the Netherlands than some other countries but Maasstricht is a difficult place even for other Dutch people
@geertjejansen1974
Жыл бұрын
@@888records personally i don't like to specify a location, because depending on the circumstance one can really find racism anywhere. And i lived in maastricht myself
@888records
Жыл бұрын
@@geertjejansen1974 Of course it can be found anywhere but racism is more common in some places than others and it’s alright to acknowledge that
@-_YouMayFind_-
Жыл бұрын
Yes but I heard only 2 or 3 people that she came across that gave her that feeling.
@pvanhi
11 ай бұрын
I am Dutch. Born, raised and by blood. I moved out of the Netherlands because I was not able to stay because of the housing crisis and to be honest I don’t recognize my own country anymore.. I respect every culture and person, but I don’t understand why immigrants in the area that I am from (Randstad), barely made a effort to learn our language while living there for more than 5 years. The Netherlands is a very small country and not build for that much people also.
@guilhermelargueza1685
6 ай бұрын
I have tried , but wherever I go , people hear my accent and switch back to English .
@ohhi5237
6 ай бұрын
how are you liking your new local language as an immigrant? WELL?
@ohhi5237
6 ай бұрын
theyre not your free language teachers, they have schools for that, made an effort thanks@@guilhermelargueza1685
@Kimjongun19841
6 ай бұрын
im about to leave for similar reasons and I dont like some politician who i didnt vote for telling me what to do
@Nautical-g3c
6 ай бұрын
I feel the same way about whites than settle in Bali.
@bingbong6066
Жыл бұрын
My parents sold their house, in the current market that is a big pay off. They are curently living with my grandparents. Searching on the internet for their dream home in france or spain. Where it is way cheaper to live. For the value of a family home here, you can live in a french countrystead with your own forest, river, swiming pool etc. Most dutchies start a b&b or retreat there to earn a living while getting old in a nice cozy place. On that subject, getting old in the Netherlands is not interesting. It's a part of our society that went wrong. Old people are forgotten and lonely.
@-_YouMayFind_-
Жыл бұрын
Yes but where are you going to work if you don't speak that language that is already problem number 1. In France they do expect you to speak French. Spanish as well. They don't speak English very well as far I have experienced at least.
@patricklebens6602
Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty much 100% certain that if I learned xhosa and move to South-Africa, some people I'd get into an altercation with, would tell me to go back home too. But valid point.
@josphineogugua
Жыл бұрын
That’s a possibility Patrick but it doesn’t make it right. If you’ve lived in SA and had children, speak the language, invested in the country and made it your home… it’s a hard pill to swallow.
@incognito3599
Жыл бұрын
@Patrick Lebens Yes South Africa , my beautiful home country is extremely xenophobic, they even burn foreigners to de*th here. However those are mostly black foreigners that they hate on. If you are white, they will probably praise you, Because there is a lot of internalized self hate in South Africa, and white worship unfortunately....
@patricklebens6602
Жыл бұрын
@@incognito3599 I'm sad to hear that, but it's not the point I tried to make. I randomly picked SA, but this is applicable everywhere, when stupid ppl get mad stupid ppl say stupid things.
@wout123100
Жыл бұрын
@@josphineogugua what i see again and again is : people have soem bad expereinc eyes, and thentranslate that as if thats generally the case, and that is not true. i think a lot depends how you are yourself.
@LilithMoonlight
Ай бұрын
I'm from an African country, born and raised but since I have lighter skin, I've heard the "go back to your country" as well. 😅Unfortunately, as humans we are extremely judgemental.
@MarjoleinNoyceBellingaMobiel
Жыл бұрын
My spouse is British/Irish and I 'imported' him from Belgium almost 30 years ago. We had to go through all bureaucracy to get married and I remember that the spouse complained to a civil servant in the community who totally agreed with him and said that even he experienced the horrible bureaucracy and cultural hurdles... coming from Limbabwe (making Limburg sound like Zimbabwe to exaggerate that it is a foreign part of the country). So I think the acceptance/not acceptance will often be an issue in the Netherlands, but even between regions. If she got a Dutch passport, she had some family rights because you normally can't become Dutch and keep your foreign nationalities (or get another nationality and keep your Dutch one, my family in Australia gave their Dutch citizenship up in order to obtain Australian Nationality). There are plenty of good reasons to move away from the Netherlands (like the reasons you stated in the beginning of the video) but I'm not very impressed with Nicole's reasons.
@Mydamian55
Жыл бұрын
Her name "v d Hoeven" is a typical Dutch name so I'll guess her Husband has a Dutch nationality.
@MarjoleinNoyceBellingaMobiel
Жыл бұрын
@@Mydamian55 I've been wrong about that before, when people had Dutch ancestry but no longer Dutch nationality (like my own Australian family)
@Foxesandbelts
Жыл бұрын
Hi Josphine, Nicole van der Hoeven is a Dutch name. Many Dutchies moved to Australia in the fifties and sixties. I think her mother or her father was born in the Netherlands and that way Nicole picked up Dutch. Thanks for your vids. I pushed the susbribe button. Carla (Amsterdam)
@josphineogugua
Жыл бұрын
Hi Carla, Thanks for your comment. I also wondered how she had a Dutch name. she mentioned she was born in the Philippines and moved to Australia afterwards… maybe her husband is Dutch? I’m not sure really…
@conniemendeszoon9789
Жыл бұрын
This is a worldwide problem, people tell you go back home, stupid people all over the world, just ignore them
@josphineogugua
Жыл бұрын
This can indeed be experienced anywhere. I’m learning to ignore for sure 😆
@indeedworker892
Жыл бұрын
Damn, so this is more common than I ever expected???
@aquablauw69
Күн бұрын
Once the Guilder Valuta evaporated, I left there, as I never regret it.
@clairegroenink3362
Жыл бұрын
I am born and raised in The Netherlands, in the Randstad area, but moved out 10 years ago. I moved to Norway because of the housing crisis. It is just impossible for younger people to buy or even rent something. There were also better job opportunities in Norway, and I thought The Netherlands was getting way too crowded. Although I really miss the Netherlands and want to move back one day, but probably not to the Randstad anymore 😂 I still have my Dutch passport though.
@josphineogugua
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Claire and I totally understand your reason for moving. I heard Norway is beautiful ( I hope to visit someday to see the Northern lights 😍). Do you get to visit the Netherlands often?
@clairegroenink3362
Жыл бұрын
@@josphineogugua Yes, i visit the Netherlands in my holidays, 2-4 times a year. Not so much though as I would like, due to work. Yes, Norway is really beautiful and way less crowded than the Netherlands, although the culture is hard to cope with and the winters are long and dark and slippery. Thank you very much for sharing things like this on your KZitem channel, I really enjoy watching. It gives me as a Dutch person another perspective on my country, especially since I moved out. There are a lot of things I can relate to as a foreigner in another country. Thank you so much!
@brownnomad6805
Жыл бұрын
I moved to Canada from Netherlands for the similar reasons. I own house, car and everything here..
@jasonwright9405
4 ай бұрын
@@brownnomad6805thought Canada is f’d
@brownnomad6805
4 ай бұрын
@jasonwright9405 We deal with inflation and housing cost etc. but it is not as bad as netherlands... There is no lineup to buy a home lol... People in Netherland rent longer due to people having hard time to own homes as there is less available... I work in tech and make more money than I would in Netherlands cause the salary is just low there.... Healthcare is arguably bad in Canada but the way I see it its just a matter for waiting time and some surgeries will take a while for people to get... Perhaps Netherlands has better Healthcare.. Regardless, I choose Canada as I can atleast enroll children peacefully in elementary schools. Whereas in Netherlands you have to enroll 2 years or more before. Netherlands use to be a great place but not anymore...
@kryzhanovska_ya
Жыл бұрын
Dear Josphine, Love your channel, thank you for your videos 🫶🏻❤️ Hi from Ukraine 🇺🇦
@josphineogugua
Жыл бұрын
Hi Becker. It’s nice to have you here. Hope you are doing well?🤗
@RogierYou
Жыл бұрын
The weather and taxes
@josphineogugua
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@semaph0re
Жыл бұрын
I am Dutch - left in 2022. Early 30s. Housing crisis, safety issues, and the lockdown(s) made me look elsewhere. Living life in eastern Europe right now - and I wish I went earlier. Running an IT business from here. Most likely will never go back. I'm quite bitter about that place.
@josphineogugua
Жыл бұрын
Hi hi, Thanks for sharing your experience. I’m glad you’re enjoying your new location ..
@mmmnahfam
Жыл бұрын
You moved to Sofia, Bulgaria? I just came from there to the Netherlands and I'm already regretting it and want to go back 😅 The more time I spend in Northern and Western EU countries the more I realize Bulgaria is actually an incredible place to live and I've been mislead by cheap propaganda my entire life
@semaph0re
Жыл бұрын
@@mmmnahfam Yes, I grew up in the Netherlands but now I moved to Sofia and I love it. The only problem (for some) is finding a good income (for me, not a problem). Bulgaria is great and I will be staying for a while.
@jiordanov7855
Жыл бұрын
The same here with me, i realize that in Bulgaria i had a way better lifestyle, no matter the lowest income, but i was able to go out with friends, to go to a different events, to own a nice car. Here almost all my money go for bills and food, it became maybe 30 % more expensive since im here and my salary is the same like the past year.
@gencis44
Жыл бұрын
I moved also from the Netherlands to Prague , 11 years ago ( was in Ireland , UK , France ) and not planing to go back cause i am better here also an IT guy but I will never trow dutch people under the bus , there are a lot of good people in the Netherlands , i left for different reasons , not cause of dutch people... most of what i know today came from dutch people... BTW , i always lived in Villages in the Netherlands never in a city , people are different in Villages than cities , that's a fact. Nicole should move to a Village and see how her life gonna change
@alex_garcia
4 ай бұрын
There are dumb people everywhere, to expect less is quite naive. There are also very kind and lovely people everywhere too.
@jackdunn3235
Ай бұрын
But more dumb people in the Netherlands.
@pmvantil9654
Жыл бұрын
with all respect, being a 2nd generation 'outsider' and having many 'imported' colleagues and friends.. I feel this women's experience is highly anecdotal and not a good representation of the general country. Even living in Twente (rural east of The Netherlands) i have literally tens of colleagues from abroad whom all build a live here, my stepdad came from the UK to live with my mum an has already 20 years a live here and would never go back. Having listened to all her comments, the issue is more her personality and the type of people she surrounded herself with. Not the country and whether it is inviting to new people or not.
@wout123100
Жыл бұрын
agree it is more of a her issue, but we have some very blunt people, mind you
@helloworld7818
2 ай бұрын
@@wout123100and then how is that every international person I know says they don't have dutch friends?
@PhTify
5 ай бұрын
All counties have problems. If we were to leave every time there was a problem, we would never stay in one place
@hpdj6620
2 ай бұрын
high costs, missing home, not feeling like a local, feelings you will have while immigrating to about any country.. including the "go back to your country !!"
@peterkeijsers489
Жыл бұрын
Somehow I get the feeling that - although she learned the language - she didn't really learn about the culture. I've moved to Mexico about 10 years ago (for love, but I came back to the Netherlands because of divorce) and first thing I learned in Mexico is not only learn Spanish but also learn about the culture. Part of moving to a different country is adapting to the local culture (not necessarily adopting it). I got this vibe from the girl that she neglected to adapt to the culture of at least accept it. About reasons for leaving the Netherlands: I believe that it's mostly either refugees who return to their native country, (Dutch) people who find a (better) job abroad, indeed the high and increasing costs of living here, or people who want to start a new life for any reason. However, if we take the numbers of migration at hand, they do show an increase of immigration (and that's also a big part of the reason why the general population number is still increasing - by January 2023 almost 18 million people!): more births than deaths, and more immigration than emigration. So, although there are a number of people leaving the country, there are still more people coming in. The only thing I do miss from Mexico is the warm weather (I HATE the cold & winter).
@josphineogugua
Жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, thanks for sharing your thoughts. I can understand that it’s still important to adapt to the culture, I think that takes more time and conscious effort and definitely pays off at the end. Immigration is still the major course of population growth in the Netherlands… birth rate is just slightly higher than death rate (only a few hundreds higher). The population increase by birth is a bit scary, as it’s not increasing at enough rate to handle the continuous growth in the Dutch economy. This is why I believe immigration especially for highly skilled migrants will continue for years and years unless something changes in the economy or birthrate.
@AudieHolland
Жыл бұрын
@@josphineogugua Low birth rates is what every developed country has been experiencing for decades. So yes, immigration is the main factor to keep the population growing or not declining.
@dutchyatchateau
Жыл бұрын
Beste Josephine. Ik ben zo iemand die zodra ik eindelijk met pensioen kan gaan heel snel mijn koffers pak. Om te beginnen: jij en je man zijn fantastisch dus neem het aub niet persoonlijk! Maar ik als Nederlander voel mij geen Nederlander meer. Immigratie is prima, we leven in een globalistische wereld. Maar als ik in de stad loop waan ik me in Afrika, niet meer in Nederland. De groep immigranten waar ik het over heb, daar behoor jij helemaal niet toe. Ik heb het over mensen die met hun strenge geloof hun ideeën en gedachten goed verspreiden. Dat is heel erg zichtbaar (we kunnen wel vermijden om erover te spreken, maar ik doe het toch) Zwarte Piet bijv: toen die verbannen werd dacht ik nog: ok als het mensen pijn doet of als het als discriminatie gezien wordt: prima, weg ermee. Maar wat je nu ziet is dat er een overkill aan "sociale" regels ontstaat. Bijv het woordje slaven: men word geacht te zeggen: "tot slaaf gemaakte" Ik kan nog heel lang door gaan en vele voorbeelden noemen, maar het is verworden tot een hysterie, de vrijheid van meningsuiting waar dit land heel lang voor stond is langzaamaan weg aan het gaan. Kijk bijv naar cabaretiers: wat hebben we gelachen als gelovigen (katholieken/moslims) op de hak werden genomen. Als er nu 1 verkeerd woord over Mohammed gezegd word volgen er doodbedreigingen. De vrijheid van het gesproken woord is al verdwenen. Dan is er een grote groep (m.n Syriërs bijv) die na 5 jaar (statistieken CBS) niet werken en waarvan de meerderheid (70%) dat ook niet wilt. En er gemeentes zijn die deze grote groep voorrang geeft op woningen (vorig jaar waren dat 4 gemeentes) Terwijl in de grote steden kinderen op hun 30e nog thuis wonen. De huizenmarkt zit simpelweg op slot, de huizenprijzen zijn in de afgelopen jaren de pan uitgerezen. Daarom vind ik het helemaal niet gek dat mensen zich niet meer thuis voelen in Nederland. Wat betreft dat laatste: zonder huizen is er amper een toekomst voor jonge mensen, laat staan de hoge vaste lasten (ik betaal nu 500 euro alleen aan energie).
@panlomito
Жыл бұрын
Wij hebben altijd in een dorpje gewoond in de Betuwe, geen last van buitenlanders, de weinigen die er waren hielden zich koest en afzijdig. Ook het levensonderhoud was nooit een probleem met twee hoge inkomens maar we merkten wel dat het besteedbare inkomen steeds lager werd door stijgende kosten, met name belastingen en accijnzen. De druppel die de emmer deed overlopen was voor mij de maatschappelijke/sociale uitsluiting omdat ik weigerde de experimentele injectie te nemen. Dwars door familie en vriendenkring heen ! Nu wonen we op Curaçao en door de veel lagere woonlasten (hypotheekvrij en zonnepanelen voor airco's) plus inkomsten uit een B&B hoeven we niet meer te werken (60 jr). Elke dag zomer, strand/zee, terrasje tot laat in de avond buiten, tijd voor vrijwilligerswerk en hobby's. Zo blij dat ik niet meer in NL woon !!!
@wout123100
Жыл бұрын
jees man je klinkt we errug rechts, maar hoop dat je ergens een fijn plekje vind, zonder al die vervelende mensen met ander ideen.
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