Born and raised in Binghamton. Most people ask me if I’m from Wisconsin when they meet me LOL when I say I’m from NY, they automatically think NYC 😂 that really throws them off until I say UPSTATE! Well done on this explanation. Looking forward to more of your videos.
@Padoinky
29 күн бұрын
Syracuse native and former RaChaCha and Buffalo resident (and lived in Manhattan for 10 yrs)here - everyone here can discern the various sub-accents - we here speak more in line w/ those in northern PA and Central Ohio
@ThePolerbearproducts
11 күн бұрын
Binghamton NY here! Love learning about this kind of stuff
@julienandross
10 күн бұрын
the hidden ɡem of the southern tier riɡht there!
@edgelordpepper
10 күн бұрын
Binghamton native here!South side 😊
@paulsmith8510
23 күн бұрын
Dude! Im from NH, my moms from the Finger Lakes, my dad is from Boston. I've put my NY aunt and uncle on speaker phone just so my friends can try to translate it. Lol The western NY accent is a trip! I always said its like someone from Chicago speaking at a NYC pace. Its so cool to see a video about it!😮
@julienandross
23 күн бұрын
thats a funny anecdote! just got the pleasure to speak to a guy from NH at my job today. he was dropping his R's and everything, it was interesting to listen to. glad you enjoyed the video 🤠
@DariusJones
23 күн бұрын
The Finger Lakes, huh? long live Cayuga and Seneca Lake.
@paulsmith8510
19 күн бұрын
@@DariusJones I would bounce around between Seneca and Canandaigua between family.
@J-K-A
Ай бұрын
Keep the work up man. I’m trying to support more of my upstaters
@julienandross
Ай бұрын
yessir! upstate NY stays strong
@impala666
3 күн бұрын
Elmira here....everything is spot on. Thank You.
@redjello333
23 күн бұрын
When I lived in Boston, I was told I said the "cal" in "calendar" weird. There's the vowel shift, but also a bit of a of a dipthong - "kyal". I thought that was interesting.
@youfrancis
19 күн бұрын
Very interesting. I worked with a guy from Utica once; he always sounded Canadian to me. Consequently, I've always just assumed that was the Upstate New York accent--i.e., a Canadian variant!
@julienandross
10 күн бұрын
i could see the similarities, were are pretty close to the border so theres a bit of cross influence for sure
@averagecommenter1601
24 күн бұрын
Im from PA and went to niagara falls a couple years ago and Ive noticed a lot of different accents within Upstate. Western Upstate, Middle Upstate, Hudson Valley (Eastern Upstate), and the Adirondacks (Northern Upstate) these are different areas with sublte differences. Western Upstate says pop and Central (Binghampton, Elmira, Especially those areas near the PA border like Jervis and the Deleware River area (i do consider that area to be Upstate bc Its closer geographically and culturally to Upstate than to New York City) ) and everything east of that says Soda, More rural Upstate people sound different from those i towns but it seems to differ and blend depending on where you are.
@julienandross
24 күн бұрын
super true! there are common features, but the state occupies a pretty large chunk of land so there are definitley subtle differences within it. it shifts more and more midwestern the closer to lake erie you get, shifts towards new england the further north you go, shifts towards NYC or central PA depending on what area of the south youre in, and youre more likely to hear AAVE influencing standard english dialects in the larger cities as opposed to the countryside.
@whydowehavethesehandles
Ай бұрын
I really think the "Rochester Accent" is it's own thing. We seem to really exemplify the speech you are describing, while places like Buffalo are much more Midwest and Albany doesn't even count as Upstate in my mind. Greetings from Rochester. I was mortified the day someone identified me as being from the region when they said I had "the local accent". It's not a color, its a "Keller".
@julienandross
Ай бұрын
honestly, i can see the point there with how strong the city identity can be. yall have garbage plates out there lol, and a bunch of little things other areas of the state dont have
@melissahirst3078
Ай бұрын
Thank you!! Have been scrolling for HOURS to find upstate new York accent. There are THOUSANDS of videos explaining accent with lists of single word pronunciations... LISTS LISTS LISTS!!! I JUST WANT TO HEAR SOMEONE TALK IN UPSTATE ACCENT!!! LOL
@julienandross
Ай бұрын
very glad to have put a temporary end to your search for my accent lmao! tried to give viewers like you the best of both worlds by explaining the characteristics in detail, but also displaying them in free speech since I naturally speak with the accent.
@frankkirbyiii2368
Ай бұрын
What sites do you recommend for exploring Upstate NY accents. Appreciate any and all of them.
@redjello333
23 күн бұрын
@melissahirst3078 Try to find streams from local radio stations. The local ads and DJs are usually good examples.
@ternedo6074
Ай бұрын
I’ve always preferred steamed hams to hot dogs anyways
@julienandross
Ай бұрын
never heard anyone call it that before lol
@Muzikman127
Ай бұрын
@@julienandross it's an Albany expression
@Muzikman127
Ай бұрын
@@julienandross😁
@julienandross
Ай бұрын
thats a pretty unique one tbh! lmao
@sailormouth8356
28 күн бұрын
never noticed i had a strong hudson valley accent until now
@EPMTUNES
Ай бұрын
Great video! You did a really good job of explaining this in an understandable way despite my limited linguistic knowledge.
@julienandross
Ай бұрын
awesome sauce 😎 happy to hear
@alexanderb.2169
Ай бұрын
I'm from the countryside of upstate NY specifically Northern New York. So when I saw this video in my feed, I got really excited. I did enjoy the video a lot, its just that the city characteristics aren't as prevalent or rather as strong in the countryside, like you said. People up here talk in a different but similar way, but it is definitely interesting
@julienandross
Ай бұрын
i havent spent too much time up there by the mountains besides camping, so im just curious what ways do you think your speech differs from what I described? would you say its closer to a new england or even canadian accent? genuinely curious
@alexanderb.2169
Ай бұрын
@@julienandross i feel like the only difference is that we don't have the same shift that the upstate cities do. for example, at 4:11, the way you pronounced trap and bag the way that the northern cities would, we don't pronounce it that way. we pronounce it the way you previously do at 4:09. i wouldn't say its closer to a new England or Canadian accent (although some people here do speak kinda Canadian because of my proximity to the border), i just don't think our vowels shifted. but i might not be able to tell by myself, I'm not super into linguistics. i looked up some videos specific to city accents, and they definetly do sound different, syracuse being the one that sounds the most like how we speak.
@alexanderb.2169
Ай бұрын
@@julienandross its a significant difference to where i can tell if someone is from the city or not
@julienandross
Ай бұрын
that makes a lot of sense. i like how detailed you got in your explanation! the vowel shift. i described is called the northern cities shift after all, so itd make sense that it hasnt reached all the way up there yet. i knew a guy from platsburgh in college and he definitely had a more "normal" american accent compared to mine. then theres also factors such as AAVE influence, which can greatly impact the way people in the city speak too, considering AAVE is very city concentrated in the northern US.
@SkySpiral8
19 күн бұрын
From WNY, now in Roc. I’ve noticed for long i, ppl say “buh-ik” instead of “byke” for example
@damienmcgonnell6032
Ай бұрын
Little changes over long periods of time add up. It’d be interesting to know what our accent will sound like in a few hundred years, if it’ll even be mutually intelligible with very different American accents such as the gulf coast or southern Appalachian accents.
@julienandross
Ай бұрын
for real dude, by 2500 american and english may become seperatle languages, given the physical isolation between us and britain.
@Muzikman127
Ай бұрын
I don't think mutually intelligible is the word you're looking for here? All American accents are mutually intelligible. Well, apart from maybe Cajun lol
@tinear4
27 күн бұрын
Your vowel commentary is based, though I don’t hear it so much any more. Twenty years ago I could pick out the Colonie townies by their vowels.
@julienandross
27 күн бұрын
this is true, a lot of older people have much more exaggerated pronunciations. it could be slowly disappearing, or at the very least naturally leveling out.
@norazhou3193
Күн бұрын
this is so interesting!
@norazhou3193
Күн бұрын
english is not my native language so it always sounds like a mix of everything to me especially when i talked to those native speakers lolll. thank you so much for this video, it really gives me a new perspective to think about it now that im living in upstate ny.
@impala666
3 күн бұрын
My in-laws from Albany sound like they are from the Bronx....but they are from Albany.
@GimmieJimmie
Ай бұрын
Only got this in my recommended because google was listening to me talk about a New York accent. But good shit
@julienandross
Ай бұрын
no kiddin lol, still glad you enjoyed it 👍
@donaldclifford5763
7 күн бұрын
I'm from upstate NY and we don't have an accent.
@Dbobcol
Ай бұрын
Noticed the Canandaigua shoutout
@julienandross
Ай бұрын
a hidden gem in the heart of the state. went to college out there!
@Whassevah
Ай бұрын
Julien, what accent did you generally use in this video? I find it to be the most pleasant-sounding American accent to my ears. BTW, I'm a native of 🇵🇭.
@julienandross
Ай бұрын
thank you! i just spoke with my native accent, from buffalo new york. broadly speaking, it can be catagorized as an urban great lakes accent.
@wgebbia
Ай бұрын
Like how you keep skipping from Syracuse to Albany like there's not another city in the middle
@julienandross
Ай бұрын
ngl i think of utica and oswego as towns in my head, sorry lol. same with watertown and binghampton
@wgebbia
Ай бұрын
@@julienandross If Little Falls can be a city so can Utica
@julienandross
Ай бұрын
@@wgebbia fair enough lmao 😂
@pidgeotroll
Ай бұрын
When you say the word “both” does it have an L sound in it? I hear “bolth” from many Midwest speakers.
@julienandross
Ай бұрын
honestly i might, i dont think i say it like that but if im speaking fast and not paying attention i could picture it coming out that way. i havent noticed myself pronouncing it that way tho
@Reubentheimitator6572
Ай бұрын
I'm from Ohio originally and now dwell in Florida and I think you and I sound almost exactly the same. Maybe you have influence from African American Vernacular English too.
@julienandross
Ай бұрын
cool stuff man! really does just go to show how my area is more tied to your area than it is to the city we're most known for lol. ohio is closer to me than new york after all
@Reubentheimitator6572
Ай бұрын
@@julienandross yeah, cool😎 stuff! I also didn't know you dwell nearer to Ohio than New York City, that's a surprise.
@Reubentheimitator6572
Ай бұрын
@@julienandross oh and thanks🙏 for the heart❤️
@Reubentheimitator6572
Ай бұрын
you also taught me about the nothern cities vowel shift, that was new to me, so thank you for that too
@julienandross
Ай бұрын
oh yeah dude, NYS is big. cleveland is over an hour and a half closer to me than NYC lol. we prolly sound so similar since all the cities around the great lakes popped up after the erie canal, and more or less shared a culture with each other. im happy you enjoyed the video bro! 🤠😎
@kcio3erene307
Ай бұрын
i come from utica. yk the city between syracuse and and albany ig that no one talks abt probably bc its a shithole. i cant really say much on this bc i ahve a speech deficit. mostly with t's and th's like i cant pronouns words that end with t and i cant pronounce the th sound at all so words like that become dhadt and the becomes da. tbf aave is a part of it. i grew in a place that is extremely diverse but in the end by speech deficit always happen for speaking. i also cant tell the difference on pronounciation of three and free so you could its a bit difficult to talk to me in person. i do see the thing with coffee tho. how i would saw it is like the higher o you were talking abt so cOawf'ee. youll notice hear i pronounce words slow aswell. nice video anyways tho
@julienandross
Ай бұрын
youre right people do tend to leave cities like utica, oswego, and watertown out of the conversation. being closer to downstate too, i can definitely see how your "o" vowel in "coffee" can get thicker.
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