Hey it's Lily, thanks for sharing my story, even though the title doesnt say assault- which is why I think it projected further than most of those dirty laundry stories , he wasn't just a "sex pest", Tora transcended the virtual realm and did something in the real world. But good video covering it, and side note love the model! also I saw at around 26 minutes you were wondering where his money went- a little after the AX trip he lost his job, and has been unemployed ever since. He even did a donothon way back when to help pay off his model which he used a credit card for. Most of the art he got after his debut and AX was free. He liked to befreind artists for the intent to get free art. Dany was one of those artists, and she also to clarify started off as a fan but then they befriended him as time went on. Anyway all up from here I hope haha
@sapheravt
5 ай бұрын
Hi Lily, thank you for taking the time to comment!! I really appreciate it, and I hope you're doing well. 🫂 I would've liked to include assault in the title since I wholly agree his behavior transcended beyond a sex pest, but I'm not sure how the YT algo likes to handle that, so I took it cautiously for the naming. I'm sorry if the title seemed to lessen the severity. ;_; I hope I did the coverage on the events in March accurately though, as I would never want to diminish the impact of your story and powerful voice. And thank you for the clarifications! That explains a lot about the shift from a burst of 7k in Skebs to low contest prize rewards and why he seemed intent on befriending artists. May everyone heal from this and be on the up and up fr! 🫂 Thank you again, Lily. 💜
@chaudspieler
5 ай бұрын
Lily I am here for you too! I'm sorry you went through all this! If you need anything also let me know!
@Arkhanaisback-qh6fk
5 ай бұрын
Man i hope you recovered from that,Guy's a massive creep
@AnimeGalOhio2288
5 ай бұрын
Lily, I hope you're doing well and are healing from the incident!
@azurastellav6564
5 ай бұрын
I'm so sorry you had to put up with that crap. I hope you stay safe.
@CaptainMuzzle
5 ай бұрын
When I first heard his voice I seriously said "eughh....brother eughh😟" 💀
@ddcoolboy3
4 ай бұрын
@YourLeastFavCoqquetteLova LMAOOO
@hoshicloverfield
4 ай бұрын
"OH BROTHER THIS GUY STINKS" 😢
@T3V0T04ST
4 ай бұрын
“P.U. onion boy” type shit😭😭
@CaptainMuzzle
4 ай бұрын
@@T3V0T04ST NAHHH☠️☠️☠️
@CosmixAngels
4 ай бұрын
@@T3V0T04STHRLPPP I CAKCLED
@killakella1433
5 ай бұрын
when the unsolicited asmr came in at 23:17 the sensation of gagging, bad chills, and my soul evaporating from my body happening at the same time is so surreal
@Lynnie_ThePoo0930
3 ай бұрын
My soul ran away gotta go get 'er inna sec
@cotton_dino1
3 ай бұрын
I LITERALLY WENT: “nah.. EW.. WHAT?!?! oh- eugh… bleeeccckk.”
@h34rtss.4m4ri
2 ай бұрын
I had to pause it and re-think my life choices
@emi0404
2 ай бұрын
i’m watching it now and i want to cry
@NouranAlamri-kg4gb
Ай бұрын
@@emi0404SAME
@danielgeronimo5538
5 ай бұрын
I dunno why but the way he speaks just activated that fight or flight instinct.
@AGoofyJester
5 ай бұрын
Same
@diputston
5 ай бұрын
He made me scrunch my face,my average face😭
@tenkuken7168
5 ай бұрын
He got the harassment voice
@poqqery8950
5 ай бұрын
The dude speaks like a horny harem protagonist, that's what set it off.
@Æ2000k
5 ай бұрын
@@tenkuken7168lMAO
@misuki5894
5 ай бұрын
IM SORRY, BREEDING LIST⁉️⁉️⁉️
@PersonThePerson-tz9ry
5 ай бұрын
Fr that so weird 😬
@queenofcandy
5 ай бұрын
I GAGGED WHEN I PROCESSED WHAT I HEARD. WHO TF MAKES A BREEDING LIST… EVEN AS A JOKE…
@ワイン中毒のキョージ
5 ай бұрын
OKAY, WHAT THE FLIP MAN.
@JimmyCougar
5 ай бұрын
You all honestly haven't been to some of the NSFW realms of the internet...
@digitalmania6966
5 ай бұрын
And ima happy about that some things i seen need to stay in the mind @@JimmyCougar
@DepressoExpreso
5 ай бұрын
Saw the first clip. First reaction, “ew” 💀💀💀
@hanakikoi
5 ай бұрын
Honestly. I'm totally on board with play flirting with friends, but we have to be CLOSE for that. If we aren't, my immediate knee-jerk reaction is the desire to bite.
@kavehbf
5 ай бұрын
ok i saw this comment and was prepared but i didnt expect it to be that bad i literally gagged
@kuij
5 ай бұрын
Same
@mochaismilk
5 ай бұрын
I physically recoiled, wtf- Probably more uncomfortable than any boyfriend audios I've heard, and that's saying a lot
@LemonFlowerTree
5 ай бұрын
No cuz literally same like ew
@RubelliaVT
4 ай бұрын
Hiii I'm the person the clip at 2:15 was directed at! It's nothing compared to the other things me or other girls experienced but I still find the "Sugar daddy" comment weird given I always made it very clear I don't enjoy gifts. He also asked me to make free art (Memes or emotes) because as he said "I need more exposure". Additionally I did get asked for "Nudes", at some he even offered "Audios of him touching himself" to said pictures in exchange. All my support goes to Lily.
@lost_.gremlin
2 ай бұрын
what :(( im so sorry its so disgusting to do that to someone,, im sorry for you /gen :((
@smorphous8928
5 ай бұрын
I saw this guy from one of the clips, and I immediately thought “why is this guy strangely h*rny” but that’s just his default emotion.
@arlynnecumberbatch1056
5 ай бұрын
unnecessarily horny to be exact
@soisapluta8278
4 ай бұрын
First time i watched a vtuber guy i said „ why are vtubes so mf horny”
@Fruitymari
2 ай бұрын
Ok stop thats so funny😭😭
@TragicHeroine_
5 ай бұрын
OH MY GOD I’M LATE I just got linked this video! Hello, I’m Zenith the one who received those godawful audios! Thank you so much for covering this in such a respectful manner 💕 This was a horrible mess but I’m glad that we were able to bring widespread attention to an unfortunately rampant issue in the indie vtubing scene. Sadly this isn’t the first, second, or even third time I’ve been subject to this type of harassment and gross behaviour. I hope more people can be aware of this problem and take actions to both protect themselves and others, and to hopefully hold these types of sex pests accountable. Once again, thank you for the thorough coverage 🫶 Will be supporting your channel from now on and I hope it grows even more! All the best! 💕
@sapheravt
5 ай бұрын
Hi Zenith!! Thank you for taking the time to check out the video and leave a kind comment, I do appreciate it! 🥺💜 I'm glad I could cover this sensitive topic with respect to the victims, and I do hope this kind of unsavory sex pest behavior can diminish (or ideally, disappear adshgf) with more awareness!! I appreciate the support, and I hope you're doing well and taking care of yourself! 🫂
@sha4522
5 ай бұрын
omg queen
@DeadFanbases
5 ай бұрын
My boyfriend is very naive and kind, he wants to try his shot at vtubing; everyday I grow more worried about the amount of horrible people out there...
@lukapie
5 ай бұрын
dont worry theres still good ppl and im sure your bf s gonna be like popular someday
@sapheravt
5 ай бұрын
There's a lot of good people in the Vtubing scene, but it definitely requires a bit of curating to make sure you get a positive experience! I still think its a worthwhile hobby to get into if it's what he wants to do! :D
@nolwazi3076
5 ай бұрын
In any kind of industry whether it's a hobby or profession. There will always be bad apples and good apples. The bad voices speak the loudest, but they are not the only experiences. Like the other people said, you just have to cultivate a good space and be strict to what you want and you don't want. I hope you can be more supportive of your boyfriend. Be his shield, or sword or both lol. And give him confidence that you'll be there for him.
@ignightroad
5 ай бұрын
There's gonna be bad eggs in EVERY fandom. If he wants to do it, let him do it.
@Ai_dayooooo
5 ай бұрын
Channel drop?
@Felix_Silly
5 ай бұрын
THE FIRST FEW CLIPS OF HIM BRO IM SOBBING WHAT IS THAT 😭😭😭
@dilfhunter13
5 ай бұрын
why is he trying to sound like an anime character I'm shaking
@Homodemon
5 ай бұрын
Ain't that most Vtubers tho? (Not defending the dude, but I can't stand vtubers because of the annoying anime voices they try to pull off)
@tryx-i1426
5 ай бұрын
@@HomodemonNo? Vtubers for the most part just talk normally, if their voice is annoying, it's just because that's how their voice is.
@Homodemon
5 ай бұрын
@@tryx-i1426 are you one of those people that truly believes that Nyanners actually talks like that irl??? Or even Ironmouse???
@SoapiiOSC
5 ай бұрын
@@Homodemonyes there are many ppl who sound like that, not everyone sounds like they have a deeper tone or monotone voice.
@Unbelievablyunfunny
5 ай бұрын
@@Homodemon maybe they do it to not get their voice recognised in public, potentially leaking their identity? If you want normal talking vtubers there's Rin Penrose who talks absolutely normally
@IbeShoujo
5 ай бұрын
Hey! Thank you for adding my experience in there, in the past some guys would laugh on why I'd needed to add "no flirting". And this is the perfect reason why, sadly Tora has not been the only one to do this and he won't be the last. I decided to remove it out of being made fun about, but now this situation really makes me think if I should add it in back in my bio. It's so sad to even have that kind of thing in your bio in the first place.
@sapheravt
5 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experience, Ibe! I'm really sorry to hear that Tora won't be the last to bother you like this. :( I definitely agree that it's disappointing that such things even need to be in a bio in the first place because of all the people who just blatantly overstep boundaries constantly. But at the same time, I don't think anyone should make fun of you for it, because if they are going to make fun of you for it, they're most likely a terrible person anyway who doesn't know how to respect someone's boundaries and not worth the time. I can definitely see pros/cons for having it in the bio, and I can't definitively say which one is ideal. I just hope that no further harassment will come your way, and if anyone does try, hope ya can give them that big ol' block and ban button to keep you and your community safe. 🫂 Wishing all the best for you, Ibe!!
@C0RR3Y_
5 ай бұрын
Guys, if anyone ANYONE makes u VERY uncomfy for even a split second, dont interact w them anymore. Unless u consented to what theyre doing. I'm a minor that play roblox, I met some1 in game that i ended up friending n getting their dc. They said very inapropriate msgs like how they wanted to hug me, or touch my ass whilst carrying me in evade. At first the hugging thing seemed cute n innocent (although i WAS a but uncomfy) but when he sent the msg ab how he wanted to squeeze my ass, i immediately blocked him on both roblox n dc. So always trust ur gut feelings.
@sapheravt
5 ай бұрын
I'm so sorry you're dealing with creeps on the internet as a minor. :( It's definitely not safe out there for you young folks, but definitely trust your gut, and if someone is being creepy, gross, or rude to you, block them. Report if you can! Gotta keep yourself safe out here and be vigilant. Your youth shouldn't be tainted by creepy predators, and I'm wishing you well. 🫂
@thelittlestarlight6221
4 ай бұрын
The amount of people that tried to pressure me to ERP with them when I played roblox at 15. One of the reasons I only play with friends or alone without interacting which is sad because I used to have game friends to roleplay with in royale high we’re we would come up with this super hero stories 🥲. Why do people have to be weird
@mcstabbins4501
4 ай бұрын
Was once playing that pizza game and there was a couple, I guess flirting, I ignored it til they started getting more suggestive and immediately left
@Meimoons
4 ай бұрын
Just a general tip, don’t broadcast that you’re a minor unless necessary. But you were right to block him at any point when he decided to make any advances on you or make you uncomfortable .
@volkuu
4 ай бұрын
@@sapheravt
@pappendeckel2.096
5 ай бұрын
watches intro: "ok lets see how bad it gets"... barely made it through the first clips of him😭
@sapheravt
5 ай бұрын
rip for destroying your cringe tolerance meter LOL
@elricvos
5 ай бұрын
The cringe was strong for sure 😂
@BROTHERHOOD_OF_NOD1995
5 ай бұрын
Is there a ritual to get those seconds of my life back and erase that from my mind😫
@liandoaethend2403
5 ай бұрын
Cringe is my middle name.. but that.. that
@SoapiiOSC
5 ай бұрын
FR OMG I ALMOST THREW UP 😭
@EikonSapphire
4 ай бұрын
Hi! I'm Sapph. Thank you for including me in your video. I'm currently typing this out as I'm watching this (yes, I'm very very late to the occasion because when everything blew up, I wanted to stray away from all of the commentary, especially after a specific podcast group started victim blaming.) So, now the dust has settled, I'm going to clarify and elaborate on all of the points that you bring up in this video ^^ For starters, Tora grew most of his following due to his VERY active involvement in his community. Usually, one or two comments on his posts would prompt a DM from him, especially if you were a female/feminine Vtuber. Tora's 2.0 design debuted after he hosted a design contest (iirc, the design artist no longer wants to be associated with him, so I will not be crediting them in this post). The 1st place winner would not only be his new design, but they would be awarded a measly $75 USD. After that, Tora's fame grew due to the extraordinary amount of money he would splurge on commissioned art (all of which was charged to his credit card, he told me and Lily himself). In my opinion, as someone who was on the list, Tora's Breeding List was relatively harmless, but in retrospective, it is unnerving to think about just how many people he wanted to get NSFW art with. I'm not going to speak on Lily's part, as she was here long before me, but I'm still endlessly proud of her for standing up for herself and speaking out about the abuse she went through. I don't know how long he would have gotten away with it if she hadn't said anything. I wholeheartedly believe that the reason why he was able to get away with it for so long was because he carried himself in a way that wouldn't seem predatory at first glance. He said almost everything in a playful manner, but it was serious enough to gently coax and manipulate people (including myself) into getting what he wanted. He would play off behaviors such as spamming and being outwardly gross in a "I do this because I like you" kind of way, and his popularity and influence only made it harder for victims to differentiate whether they were in danger or not. Personally, I could care less if he returns to the community, even with his former IP. He knows exactly how to manipulate the twitter algorithm to gain more traction and to build his platform from scratch again. All I hope is that something like this doesn't happen again, either from him or others in this community. Again, thank you for shedding light on this matter and I wish you the best on your future content.
@travelingways9648
5 ай бұрын
I used to know the guy when I first started doing vtuber shit. He had hopped into my DMs to help me with some technical stuff that had flown under my radar. After that we talked every few days I thought we were friends. Never got this kind of attention of em but he was helping me out. It fucks me up to know someone I had contact with and was friends with did this shit. Makes it a lot more clear why he ghosted me
@travelingways9648
5 ай бұрын
Also as for the money he told me he worked from home with programming and got paid while he was on the clock. He would text people while working and pretty much get paid to talk to people
@sapheravt
5 ай бұрын
It definitely sucks to find out someone you used to know wound up doing terrible things to others. :( I hope you can recover from this revelation, too. 🫂 And thank you for the insight about his past job! It sounds like he was taking advantage of working remotely so, can't exactly feel too bad for him getting laid off if he didn't take his work seriously lol.
@travelingways9648
5 ай бұрын
@@sapheravt I got some good people but I also grabbed screenshots of my DMs with him. Don’t know if any more evidence is needed but I just wanna have my stuff in case anything more happens
@Arkhanaisback-qh6fk
5 ай бұрын
@@sapheravtGuy's a massive creep. me listening to that ASMR audio was like "Aint no way this was satisfying"
@kuau_Queen-kiki-4652
5 ай бұрын
Istg that asmr made me go rewwwwwwwww,
@SalviAlmighty
5 ай бұрын
The fact that his partner stayed with a CHRONIC sexual harasser/abuser is WILD. What, they think it's just gonna stop like that? He's done this to who knows how many people, and let's be real, probably still is on the DL. You can't stand with the victims while staying with their abuser. This guy should honestly be investigated because omg what a disgusting person.
@Friedfrito
5 ай бұрын
What I’m saying 💀 like be frl
@fart4453
4 ай бұрын
I will say this it is hard for people to break out of relationships especially considering the possibility he’s manipulating them, it’s awful but you gotta also take into consideration they might also be a victim. They also weren’t the one who did the awful actions so there’s nothing anyone can do in order to help them out of it. It’s sad
@teiarraparks1119
4 ай бұрын
@@fart4453it’s doesn’t matter someone who stands by the side and watches is just as bad
@Cucrytiex
4 ай бұрын
@@teiarraparks1119 do you not know how manipulation works? Lmao
@teiarraparks1119
4 ай бұрын
@@Cucrytiex yup. And since I do I also I know you still know right from wrong it’s not hard to know grape is wrong.
@YingYueVT
5 ай бұрын
Hi, I'm YingYue, one of the people who spoke out about Tora. This was such a well formatted video, and I thank you for covering this story. I really like how you mentioned that this video can serve as a way for people to remember who he is, should he ever come back on an alt. I know he said he won't...but tbh I don't think I can hold him to that. Not included in my original thread were the different audios he did for me, talking about how much he loved etc etc. It was...definitely something! But I am doing much better now, and I'm definitely not gonna let him grip at my mental anymore. Once again, thank you for covering this story and shedding light onto situations that goes on within the Indie VTuber scene. (also great pronunciation on my name!)
@sayidazai
5 ай бұрын
Thank you for speaking out about him. You're truly strong. 💝💝
@rach3lowo
5 ай бұрын
I hope you recover or recovered well after experiencing and speaking out about this situation❤
@krishaunafisher
5 ай бұрын
I hope you are doing well and I'm sorry what you went through
@sapheravt
5 ай бұрын
Thank you again for speaking out, I know it couldn't have been easy. :( But I'm so glad to hear you're doing much better now, and I hope the recovery keeps going well! 🫶 I'll keep doing my best, and I'm so relieved to know I pronounced your name well! ;v; 💜
@sha4522
5 ай бұрын
omggg queen
@sandraswan9008
5 ай бұрын
The way my face contorted into a horrified grimace when you switched to playing his clips
@theblackantonio
5 ай бұрын
Consent also is NOT a one and done. It can be withdrawn at ANY point during whatever activities.
@lexieloaf9203
4 ай бұрын
Exactly! Even blanket consent (or whatever it’s called when partners allow each other to assume consent is granted) can be withdrawn at any moment for whatever reason
@Emaskyehigh
Ай бұрын
EXACTLY
@starrycharacter
Ай бұрын
Exactly! If someone withdraws consent then I don't care what you are doing you stop period
@Goshikko
5 ай бұрын
Hey, it's Goshikko. I initially wasn't gonna comment anything since I made my own Google Doc backing up the victims and spoke myself out experiencing ToraKaru already, but first off, thank you and other small news VTubers for covering news about his disgusting and horrible actions towards Lily and other female-presenting Vtubers. I've met ToraKaru during my most vulnerable, healing moment of my life in 2022 (Oct/Nov) after being traumatized from another ASMR Vtuber before him (VulpineVoice) who turned out to be an abuser and a sexual predator, similar to Tora. Predatory people like Tora are unfortunately common around the VTubing sphere and it sucks to see how many still have a spotlight til this day and continue to hurt people. And because of the reputation of VTubers, it's also why I'd rather fully call myself a Virtual Streamer nowadays to stay away from the label, especially with how the VTuber sphere is that I involved myself in and after my traumatic experiences from my first Vtuber that I ever interacted with. I'm unfortunately one of the small artists who had experienced lovebombing and unsolicited flirting from ToraKaru and on rare occassions was praised for my art and animation work by him (just for being a small artist he favored and made my art felt special to him). I had my fair share of skepticisms towards him and knew he was doing this to other female Vtubers and thought it was well intended of him being "friendly and playful", but after what Lily and others came out about him, I was dead wrong, but I knew I could trust my guts. I'm also the one who drew the "I put the new Tora on the Jeep" artwork and won his meme art contest that he hosted for a $50 award. I will admit, I never liked nor condone the art contest awards Tora gives for cheap prices towards artists and with my past history on art contests like this, I avoid partcipating in them and even then, I was skeptical with certain things he's said and done. I still remember after I won, Tora wanted me to do an animated version of the meme artwork (mind you, at the time I was extremely busy with animation thesis/projects already for my senior years of college and was already going through mental things like burnout) and I told him that when I have commission slots open, then I'll tell him since I was closed at the time. At first I felt bad when I showed him my estimated prices cuz he had a "melting emoji reaction" towards my prices, but after hearing he does similar things like this to other artists and he "promised to commission artists later on", I'm glad I dodged a HUGE bullet and I'm glad he never pressured me to animate for him for free. Most non-artists/animators don't understand that 2D animation is a lot of work and I would HATE my work to be associated and known by someone like Tora. There's a lot more I wish I could say, but I feel like I'd be repeating myself since I wrote down everything that I experienced from ToraKaru to help back up the victims. Til this day, I still don't believe I am one of his victims since nothing went too extreme between us imo, but I'm glad I never bowed down to do art for him for free, even after the meme art contest. In the back of my mind, I had the right feeling to be sketchy about him and protect myself after the trauma I dealt with from my first Vtuber, especially since he befriended me immediately and added me on his lists already without getting to know each other on a deeper level. But even after everything that came out about him and thought he really wanted to be my friend, I still felt hurt, upset, and disappointed in him after everything he did and said to me. I just hope all the victims deeply affected by him would take their time to heal moving forward, take care of themselves, and protect ourselves better in the sphere where abusers, toxic people, and predators are common. :( 💜
@sapheravt
5 ай бұрын
Thank you for speaking out, Goshikko! 🫂 I'm so sorry about the negative experiences you had gone through in the Vtuber space, it definitely has its fair share of problematic people who unfortunately have huge platforms or influence. :( I've heard about VulpineVoice, and I'll have to make some time to look more into it in the future (though no guarantees I'll get the time to do a vid on them ;v; ). It's good to hear, though, that you weren't prey to Tora's lewd comments, but definitely messed up he seemed to try take advantage of your artist skills. :( For sure, never undersell yourself, even for friends! I know animation work is not cheap at all, those frames don't look easy! I agree though, I hope everyone can heal, take care of themselves, and that we can all protect ourselves and each other from the terrible people that unfortunately share this hobby/niche. ;v; 💜
@Goshikko
5 ай бұрын
@@sapheravt No problem and thank you so much for your kindness and empathy. 🫂💜 If you ever plan to do a video on VulpineVoice someday, I have a Google Doc on him as well with loads of receipts that back up my experiences with him and I’m also friends with old friends I got back with and new victims who tried to come out about his actions and cancel him. Of course, feel free to reach out to me whenever you’re planning to. No pressure on that 💜 I’m definitely glad and lucky that I didn’t let him pressure me to do a free animation work for him, so I know what to look out for if people like this expect me to do free work for them. And all I hope is that I don’t see him ever again in the VTuber sphere after everything that happened.
@s3th.needs.friends
5 ай бұрын
NOT EVEN 3 MINITUES IN AND I WAS ALREADY UNCOMFY - (Edit) TY SM 4 THE LIKES OMG I CAN USE THE "MOM IM FAMOUS" JOKE TEHEJEJEHEHEHEHEHEEHE ANUWAYS 1.9K!? TY TY TYYYYY. (2k!?!? TYSMMMMMMMMMMMM)
@maretulili
5 ай бұрын
FR I INSTANTLY SAID “EW”
@s3th.needs.friends
5 ай бұрын
@@maretulili ONG IT WAS JUST LIKE "EW BRUH WTF- WHY- WHAT- WHO TF TALKS 2 RANDOM ASS PPL LIKE THAT ALSO WHO MAKES A NSFW LIST OF PPL THEY WANT ART DONE OF WITH *THEM*-
@buzzled_forever
5 ай бұрын
My face: 😳 In my mind: how embarrassing and weird 😭
@Brookiesbees
5 ай бұрын
FR.. HE GAVE THE ICK THE SECOND HE WAS ON THE SCREEN.
@greeny.official
5 ай бұрын
imma throw up
@rxsine
5 ай бұрын
To be honest, considering he's prone to love-bombing vulnerable victims, and just manipulative in general, it's safe to assume within the 8 hours his partner confronted him, he manipulated them. Because if they still stayed knowing he was flirting with others, which most people would not accept, then we can only assume what they'd accept with a little bit of coaxing, plus relationships are hard to leave, and considering they were together for almost a year, there had to be a strong bond or attachment form on their end.
@wtf..............
3 ай бұрын
Seriously, I feel bad for them, but it is their choice.
@tereladea
5 ай бұрын
I clicked on this video because I had a feeling I recognised the model - my close friend is the person who had made his new, more popular design. If I remember correctly (I'm not very into Vtubers at all and have never followed Tora), that design was done for a contest with little or no rewards... Tora is fucking gross. My heart goes out to all the victims in this situation and I hope that they will be able to heal from this. It's absolutely horrible that Tora did this to anyone, and I hope that he never comes back to the vtubing community again. Thank you for documenting everything so thoroughly, especially since so much of it seems to have been deleted off of twitter.
@eclipseater
5 ай бұрын
Hi! I'm the friend who designed Tora's 'tiger demigod' design. As mentioned in the video, the contest had a set reward of 75$ for the first place (I even did extra art so that he had references for other people and his model for free. ), which I didn't mind at first because I assumed that I would be properly credited and sourced for the original design. After Tora changed his references files, there was nowhere you could find me. There was one stream where he mentioned my name, but my credit was basically gone after he received a proper reference sheet. It's upsetting because I was and still am an artist who has like a whole THREE consecutive followers of my work, and to have a design I made for dirt cheap considering the commercial and branding use not even be allowed to be sourced back to me was really just disheartening.
@uunxi
5 ай бұрын
@@eclipseateromg as a fellow artist I’m so sorry😭 hes such a horrible person I hope he gets what he deserves ❤ please rest well
@m.l.7558
4 ай бұрын
Do you have a Twitter or Instagram or something? You could put it in here so people con follow you and commission you(in a good way, bot like that **** Vtuber,)@@eclipseater
@m.l.7558
4 ай бұрын
*not, not bot, srry
@Zunikara
5 ай бұрын
Be on the Look out. Tora may be gone but there are others. Even Tora can still be there in the shadows under a diffrent name. I hope all the people involved with this creature will be okay now
@MiyaMam948
2 ай бұрын
Creature is a good name
@_Mushroom_boy_
5 ай бұрын
My gay ass saw his twitter one day and followed him bc "eh eh pretty tiger boi" but i never watched his content because i forgot or i got hyperfixated on somebody else. I never *HEARD* his voice until today and i physically cringed so hard i paused the video to write this and unfollow
@Ivy9oo
5 ай бұрын
Bruh 💀🤣🤣🤣🤣
@femboy_slayer
5 ай бұрын
He tried to sell his model? Seriously? Who’d want a model with that kind of backstory?
@Æ2000k
5 ай бұрын
Exactly what i was thinking.
@MonolithicCyanTsunami
4 ай бұрын
Reminds me of when kero the wolf either tried or actually ended up selling his fursuit
@femboy_slayer
4 ай бұрын
@@MonolithicCyanTsunami New rabbit hole unlocked
@MonolithicCyanTsunami
3 ай бұрын
@@femboy_slayerhow was that by the way?? 😅
@femboy_slayer
2 ай бұрын
@@MonolithicCyanTsunami I have lost a substantial amount of faith in humanity
@JustRavenHehe
5 ай бұрын
He wasted such a good model, i actually love it. I would love to see or make fanarts of him even if i can't draw very well and that's how amazing his model is. He doesn't deserve it but damn i'm trying to hold myself from making fanarts. I'd do it secretly but it doesn't feel right because it's him. 😭 Btw Saph, your model is very amazing too. The movements are absolute fire. Thank you for sharing this story.💜
@MiyaMam948
2 ай бұрын
That’s the only tragedy on his end, that model is gorgeous and now it’ll just disappear. What a waste of skill and hard work
@TuberoseKisser
5 ай бұрын
First clip is cringe, it made my spine snap
@nene2969
5 ай бұрын
Haha agreed, I actually got chills from how cringe I felt. I almost clicked off the vid 😂
@breffnilynch1875
5 ай бұрын
“OH, YOURE MY BABY GIRL👹👹👹” this was just spine chillingly creepy
@Yeaaaaaaa097
4 ай бұрын
I was like eww😔
@hoshicloverfield
4 ай бұрын
My head is gonna explode.
@NEOKUWATER
4 ай бұрын
WAIT THATS OOMF 😭 i didnt know him personally but we interacted on the tl and commented on each other's posts a lot. he had tons of lists. i was on two lists; one that was basically 'artists i want to commission', and 'i admire you and want to befriend you'. he almost comm'd me for emotes. oh BROTHER WHAT A DODGED BULLET he had a habit of befriending artists in hopes of getting stuff for free, which sadly worked.. best wishes to all his victims. 🙏
@MioWren-me6wx
4 ай бұрын
OH..A
@CrybabyMorphine
5 ай бұрын
Not gonna say who I am, but if you know, you know. I used to make art for this guy just to get his attention because of his popularity and I’m so embarrassed about it I should’ve saw the signs man I feel so dumb
@CrybabyMorphine
5 ай бұрын
I knew lily too she def didn’t deserve what happened to her. She was always so sweet and fun to be around I’m in distress
@catsareexcellent
5 ай бұрын
@@CrybabyMorphineDon’t blame yourself for his actions it’s not your fault at all. Take care of yourself 🩵
@sapheravt
5 ай бұрын
Def don't be hard on yourself 🥺 Hindsight is always 20/20 and most of his red flags were hidden for so long. You did nothing wrong, his design and popularity at the time was quite appealing, and none of us could have expected he was this depraved. 🫂
@ivansyuu
5 ай бұрын
dw its just the 2d model youre into🙏🏻
@Minskiie
3 ай бұрын
😭😭😭😭 NOT THE TIME BUT REAL WAIT NO@@ivansyuu
@DragonsRocks017
5 ай бұрын
My gf is very sickly based to where whenever temperature changes too much or it rains she gets stuck at home throwing up with a fever and she loves to game so we have talked about helping getting her into streaming and vtubing cause she thought it would be fun but i really worry about people like this in the community. I just know they would piss her off but i don't want her to have to deal with the stress of people who can't realize there's an actual person behind the characters with actual feelings and lives
@yoryuuotonashi
5 ай бұрын
First off that picture in 9:41 is terrifying af, straight nightmare fuel. I know it was for privacy sake but that shit scares me. Jokes aside I hope everyone involved never has to go through this again. Stay strong, you have a wonderful community that is here to help
@KanaIzumiya
5 ай бұрын
that's some analog horror stuff right there
@c4mboy
5 ай бұрын
WHERE IS HIS HEAD OMG
@MonolithicCyanTsunami
4 ай бұрын
I’m wondering how long he was just standing there. As someone who has been assaulted, the way he stands there in the doorway feels all too familiar. Makes me sick.
@samwheat7400
5 ай бұрын
i really love watching these video essays as a png/vtuber in training so to speak, its important for communities to know and understand the darker or sadder sides to the media they consume, and this was really well researched and sourced. the victims deserve so much love, lily is so strong for coming forwards first giving the others courage as well. i really hope this dude never comes back to content creation
@sadboat1657
5 ай бұрын
My God the indie vtuber community seems like the majority of them have brains that got stuck in middle school
@sparklylexi2159
5 ай бұрын
Accurate
@blueberriestea
5 ай бұрын
I feel like you have a point 😂😂 I don't wanna judge buuut what the hell was that first video
@user-eu3hi2vo3e
5 ай бұрын
While some like privacy I can't help but think people hide behind their characters as an excuse to act weird
@Arbysroastbeefjuice
3 ай бұрын
@@user-eu3hi2vo3eExactly, they use these stupid models for perverted stuff. Weirdest junk content there is
@Emi_yokan
5 ай бұрын
I'm aware of these kind of people, my world is small but i'm exposed to quite a few of them, and it's really heartbreaking to see whatever the aftermath is for the victims caused by countless of guys like this. They are not planning to stop as long as they're not being called out, because it's the only genuine "fun" for them. Sigh* i'm just glad similar people are getting brought to light nowadays, and I pray that more people are going to voice out to expose them. Remember, whatever you're going through- you all matter and are priceless, stand up for yourselves! And let's punish these petty scoundrels, together.
@betawolfhd
5 ай бұрын
As someone changing myself towards the foundational level, change is a dedicated process and can take years. And at this point, i dont think its possible to change others. At best you can give them guidance on how find their path, but actually push them down it and changing them is going to be like pushing mud
@sapheravt
5 ай бұрын
Totally agreed! Changing comes from oneself and doesn't happen overnight, and only Tora himself would know if he's genuinely willing to change for the better for his partner. Based on his past behavior though... Unlikely. 😔 But if he stays away from Vtubing as he says, perhaps there is a sliver of hope somewhere, but it doesn't automatically forgive him of his terrible actions, either.
@YvaineReinaVT
Ай бұрын
I LOVE asmr, it's like my best friend when I'm having anxiety attacks or having struggles with Insomnia but each time you played the "Audios" from Tora I just cringed EUGHHHH Thank you for speaking out about this, I wish all the victims well
@X1Daring2
5 ай бұрын
His voice sounds like danger in the worst way possible, I'm glad i blocked him awhile back lol xD
@ist_catus
3 ай бұрын
I absolutely adore how you put the trigger warnings at the starts since i dont see many people do that
@kaijuteeth
5 ай бұрын
13:37 want to add to this: consent can be revoked at anytime HOWEVER there are some cases in which consent is discussed beforehand but its still enthusiastic and the person who gave the consent is still able to give a go ahead or a stop. even if consent was given beforehand she still had full power to say no and tell him to stop. if he didnt or tried to say something like "but you said yes before!" it wouldnt matter because thats assault. also an issue: a community can not be hypersexual unless they are the hypersexual community. what i mean by this is that hypersexual is the term for a trauma response and the term you are looking for is oversexual.
@sapheravt
5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the additions, I very much agree! And thank you for the correction on the term "hypersexual". I was unaware it was specifically a trauma response, as I erroneously thought hyper = a lot 😔 I will keep in mind "oversexual" for next time! :D
@kaijuteeth
5 ай бұрын
@@sapheravt ofc nd amazing video spreading awareness abt this dude ! hyper does tend to mean "a lot", so i can get the confusion and misunderstanding of using hypersexual when describing something/people that are lot more sexual !! :3
@envi2273
5 ай бұрын
No it's not, a quick google search clearly states "an intense focus on sexual fantasies, urges or behaviors that can't be controlled" and is typically used to describe sex addicts, i have no idea where you got this "hypersexuality is a trauma response" crap
@CheshireCat8394
4 ай бұрын
23:39 I am CRYING
@KatiaJiyuu_VT
5 ай бұрын
I followed him as a fellow vtuber cuz his redesign was STUNNING. I thought he seemed "odd" but like... a needy boy (man). Not someone who would outright cause harm. Was a hellova thing to see happen. Pray the artist who made n worked on his model dont get caught up. Ran has stunning art (idk the rigger)
@KatiaJiyuu_VT
5 ай бұрын
Just remebred that time he sent out dms to ppl who commented on a post of his to see of they wanted a group nsfw. I recoved a dm. Damn i said no be i dodged a BULLET not getting close. Im glad i dodged this cuz my brain said "guy off be careful, danger."
@KuroNoUsagi
5 ай бұрын
Thanks for making this video, I followed him on my vtuber account but I have been in a f*ckass long histus so I had no idea all of this was happening. Apparently he opened another acc with a similar handle and tweeted something like "bye world bye twitter" I wont use my time of day to double check but he a grown ahh dude acting like an emo teenager sheesh. I didnt saw him a lot on my TL before and never watched his streams so the weird vibes were lost on me but boy I was NOT ready for this. All the love to the victims and I hope they recover from this.
@saidrew1030
5 ай бұрын
Reading those Lily screenshots made me feel so violated. The fact that someone can talk like that with a friend with no issue, is insane to me.
@hiyamadarkness
5 ай бұрын
5:00 I heard that my Skeb illustration was in a video and came to see it! I'm thinking of taking this opportunity to expand overseas lol
@kakiharaxzion5647
5 ай бұрын
Why is this dude so cringe 😭
@shuraaki
5 ай бұрын
thats a hell of an understatement💔
@Mekubot
5 ай бұрын
Wow, how are you not more popular? Im not really a vtuber person but this is some high quality and interesting content. Without a doubt an subscription from me!
@MissKatonikTV
5 ай бұрын
Your commentary is a vibe but the jumpscares from his streams made me recoil... can't wait for the podcast episode!
@minakowolf
5 ай бұрын
Tora is such a creep when he made a very inappropriate sexual comment about my anorexic body I blocked his ass so fast. It was just very uncalled for and made me even more uncomfortable about the post and deleted it and have decided to no longer post any pictures of my irl self on Twitter as a subathon goal ever again. I am glad so glad i blocked him as he was apperantly friends with one other person who has been stalking and harassing me for 2 years now and is still constantly making new accounts to stalk me. I only recently found out that they were friends from someone els but huge yikes i probably doged a bullet with the quick block
@Luiixe
5 ай бұрын
the way i quickly paused when he started talking 😭🔥🔥 i am not having it at all
@gregoriah2763
5 ай бұрын
He sounds like a 40 year old that eats cigarettes
@matteocostache
4 ай бұрын
@-tiramisulover- i thought i was the only one, i cant even fathom how some people probably listen to his voice everyday.
@ilovebanaenaes
5 ай бұрын
“you really…….,.., heh 😈.,.,,….. rearwly r my type….,…,…” 💀💀💀💀💀💀
@Suck_em_acrylic_of-toes
5 ай бұрын
@ilovebanaenaes ewwww💀💀💀
@Suck_em_acrylic_of-toes
5 ай бұрын
Love your username btw
@jinxcured
2 ай бұрын
KAITOOOO
@sparklylexi2159
5 ай бұрын
I used to know Tora Karu, back when I was a vtuber and he and his group of friends bullied me into leaving the internet- like viciously bullied me.
@MintySocks289
5 ай бұрын
That’s awful to hear. Sorry you went through the bullying
@themanwiththebeard4632
5 ай бұрын
that's horrible. i hope you're doing okay
@sparklylexi2159
5 ай бұрын
@@MintySocks289 Thanks, I am doing better and have grown from the experience
@sparklylexi2159
5 ай бұрын
@@themanwiththebeard4632 Thank you, and yes I am doing okay ^^
@AsclepiusHoe
5 ай бұрын
Don't be shy, name drop his friends
@yoel6209
5 ай бұрын
I knew about him from his first design and all that. We followed each other... And a few months back i removed myself from his discord because he started to become off to me. And a few months back i went on hiatus and stopped talking to him only to come back to him gone.. i wasn't aware until twitter news and threads and this. Thank you for this!
@gokiburi_
5 ай бұрын
He has been doing this for a long time and he knew what he was doing. Asking for females their pics, location, and personal information. Telling one person that they are the only special person to him, then always the one confessing to them but also saying that he doesn't want to be in a intimate relationship with partner and admitting that he says stuff to them but deep down doesn't feel anything about them. Even worse the fact he would still try to go his way on those that are simply married or dating someone and try to play it out as if his behavior is normal. Saying very unappealing stuff about doing intercourse in public areas where people and kids will be in the scene without wanting to be. Manipulating them into letting their guard down or trying to make him understand that he actually did care of hurting them. Many have called him out before it was made public and he apologizes says that he will fix himself then go to a different girl as if nothing had happened. Then, talking to his partner and opening his feelings and such is a way to manipulate them to make them understand that he also is human. However, he is a full grown adult and still being flirtacious to younglings as well. He craved for the attention and being an importance to people to get something out of it. If he really did felt repentant he would tell the partner of the terrible things he had done with guilt and use the money to help him mentally. But it was brought out by the people who couldn't bare it. These are just excuses to him to continue letting it be this way.
@backthrust1116
5 ай бұрын
I agree that the guy is clearly bad, especially because of the physical assault. But this video is also just demonizing normal flirting / approaching, like with the ying yue case. A guy trying to charm a girl or flirt with her is not automatically bad. Especially since it was consensual in this case.
@Einzaar
5 ай бұрын
why is he trying to deepen his voice?
@matteocostache
4 ай бұрын
The kissing shit made me scrape my skin off.
@Saincisco
5 ай бұрын
a year ago I participated in one of his Vtuber trend posts about "opinions on design" and he said some creepy stuff. I ignored it at the time as it was cringe, and not long ago when he said he was going to "graduate", I retweeted that old respond, and minutes later the account was gone. I guess the bump on that thread was going to make a lot of posts re-surface.
@stephaniehillssawyer
Ай бұрын
Just discovered your channel. I’m an aspiring Vtuber myself and appreciate the work you’re doing
@Cheroobian
5 ай бұрын
Even as a gay man this makes me uncomfortable because there are a lot of men who aren’t straight that act like this too & it’s so fucking gross. I really hope these poor women have gotten the support & help they have needed after dealing with this scumbag. Stay strong ladies.
@TeefsFm
5 ай бұрын
Ayyy GTO!
@fart4453
4 ай бұрын
Oh my god same with lesbians! Mainly masc lesbians/bi women they’ll act this way to fems or act like F boys coming off strong and leading you on, it’s so gross 😭
@Cheroobian
4 ай бұрын
@@TeefsFm ?
@TeefsFm
4 ай бұрын
@@Cheroobian your pfp Great teacher Onizuka
@LaNoir.
4 ай бұрын
You deserve as much empathy as any other female victim, I hope those things will never happen to you again
@CGold75
5 ай бұрын
His voice gave me the chills and NOT in a good way. Edit: I'd also like to point out that calling Tora "Socially Inept as a Rock" was completely uncalled for. I think everyone knows that even rocks can catch onto social cues better than him😂
@vvmn9442
5 ай бұрын
Fr he changed his voice alotttty after his 2.0. I knew him near the beginning and he was more normal than whatever the fuck he evolved into
@Aedlmonrl
5 ай бұрын
@@vvmn9442 power doesn't corrupt, it only enables what you are deep down, and unfortunately it seems he didn't stop his worse self
@imanibrantley7988
5 ай бұрын
I am... so happy I clicked on this video. Following for your vibe and sensibility
@TraumereiCh
5 ай бұрын
OH. MY. GOD. I actually followed him for a while when I started Vtubing and the two times I watched his streams... Let's say my inner red alarm went off very dang quick 💀💀
@ririzaurahel
5 ай бұрын
I was SO SO lucky that he didn't end up commissioning me his model
@RoryEmroy
5 ай бұрын
Crazy to see how such people are even appearing in my circle(He was the child of my first Rigger Artist that i am friends with) feels like my anxiety procedure to keep most people at an arm's length was validated one more, horrible that such people manage to get to grow rather quickly which in return passively helps them to get away with such behavior for a long time because if the numbers are big and they got connections to other big vtubers/influencers lots of people might fall into the trap of "Maybe its just me that feels awkward, uncomfortable with him clearly lots of people like him so it can't be his fault" only positive out of this is that people can come out with their stuff and hopefully heal from it.
@ichi_san
4 ай бұрын
Glad you shared this. There's a lot of creepy vtubers out there, some aren't indie either. Very distressing to see there's ones that cross the line even further than the overly flirtatious with fans on chat type. This guy is extremely dangerous, and i feel really bad for all of the people he frightened and manipulated
@EvilOdysseus
5 ай бұрын
If he's deleted everything, it's a sign that the allegations are true. Innocent people tend to either disregard the allegations and release some kind of statement that calls out the lies. There would also be no proof unless people came forward with evidence, which they did.
@LaNoir.
4 ай бұрын
It's not an allegation anymore if there's a 45 minute video with straight evidence of what he's done. We got text, voice chat and reallife pictures. Also not deleting an account does not mean someone's innocent, he just had no choice after all the hard evidence that surfaced.
@koz116
4 ай бұрын
i am happy to find a content creator as respectful as you when talking about these important topics, i really enjoy your videos
@OkinoMuse
5 ай бұрын
Thank you for talking about this. I too saw this on my twitter and couldn't imagine how disgusting someone has to be to do such things. Everyone is strong who was able to come out with their stories, and I'm sorry for anybody who couldn't speak up about what happened to them! You are strong, keep on pushing, you can do it! 💕
@backthrust1116
5 ай бұрын
The physical assault is definitely bad, but some of the other things the video was talking about seemed like normal flirting. If you view them in isolation, that is. Like the Ying Yue case. Using charisma to get close to someone does not mean that you are taking advantage of them. Thats just normal.
@OkinoMuse
5 ай бұрын
The bad part is that many people later on come out saying "hey, I think I was manipulated into being friends because of him flirting". Yes flirting with 2 adults who consent to it is totally fine, but it does not excuse the fact that he seemed to be a serial flirter leading on many people. It can hurt and make people feel like fools for falling for pretty words that had no meaning from the one saying them
@backthrust1116
5 ай бұрын
@@OkinoMuse Leading people on still isn't some sort of crime. I generally agree that he's a shitty person, but this video really comes off as demonizing some normal behaviour, like horny people trying to get laid, or associating charisma / flirting with manipulation. Any act of trying to persuade someone, or trying to get them to like you can be seen as manipulation, but that doesn't make those things bad. Its normal human behaviour.
@ctgooni
5 ай бұрын
2 minutes in I have already have my verdict. PUT THIS MALIGNANT IMP AWAY FOR THE CRIMES OF ASSAULTING MY EARS!!! 💀💀💀
@lillydachicOfficial
5 ай бұрын
I um...was part of the list and well tbh, I couldn't really afford the art, I guess being broke has it's perks of dodging a bullet right?
@Jisim33
5 ай бұрын
Wait you wanted his nsfw stuff at that time? Lol oof
@lillydachicOfficial
5 ай бұрын
@@Jisim33 bro, I had no idea this was happening waaay before ok?
@fart4453
4 ай бұрын
@@lillydachicOfficialat least you can admit it even if it’s kinda sus
@lillydachicOfficial
4 ай бұрын
@@fart4453 I simp over pretty characters. My bf knows I ship my persona/Oc with others and mean nothing by it.
@16shuu
5 ай бұрын
THE “ASMR” PART 😭😭
@swalluxu
5 ай бұрын
FR ITS SO GROSSSS
@jinxcured
2 ай бұрын
whattup akitoooo
@TuberoseKisser
5 ай бұрын
I very much like the character design but what would make it even more amazing is if the vtuber themselves had a decent personality.
@joeyghostx
5 ай бұрын
I would like to add that as a reminder, folks like Crystal Princessu were still afraid to speak up about Tora's creepy DMs because they were afraid of a bigger VTuber having more credibility than a smaller VTuber. Folks who abuse their powers on our friends will always deserve the shun they get in return. And you are right Saphera, this should serve as a warning to all who harass our friends with their influential power.
@MasumiWolf
5 ай бұрын
I use to know Tora for like only last year was mainly only a acquaintance as another vtuber. It really shocked me this came out cause i had no idea he would do such things especially with that half attempt of a "apology"
@rinattacobell3944
5 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing everyone's story especially mine. I actually feel heard out about the things he has done, and im glad everyone can know he wasnt just a creep to woman, but also minors. My heart goes out to everyone else and lily.
@mojika_
5 ай бұрын
He followed me a while back, and I followed him back because I didn’t see why I shouldn’t…but as I saw more and more of his content and the things he would post, I felt uncomfortable and had this awful gut feeling and it just felt like something was wrong so I never interacted with him. It seemed like everyone was ok with him though so I just ignored it. He unfollowed me eventually and when I saw this months afterwards, I felt so relieved that I avoided him!!
@riverjoy5658
4 ай бұрын
Tora got his degree from Sociopath University, and from what it sounds like, he graduated top of his class. It's cool if you don't care about how people feel, but they still feel things, and you gotta take that in to account. Empathy training exist for a reason. It's possible to be a flirt without sexually harassing people. This was an awesome video, I'm glad it popped up on my timeline, and I'm going to subscribe for future content!
@redherringoffshoot2341
5 ай бұрын
it’s unironically cringey weebs such as “Tora Karu”🤓 who on only reinforce the negative stereotypes surrounding vtubers that tend to exist outside of vtuber circles
@Soirastar
4 ай бұрын
I’m sorry but you are so good that I watched the full (40 min video) without 2x speed and all at once without getting sidetracked?!?? I never do that
@arlynnecumberbatch1056
5 ай бұрын
he is basically a personified version of twilight and those shades of gray films bc both movies are bad on representing adult communities even dungeons have strict rules and you need to take a shot everytime the rules mentions the word "consent"
@uhoh-s5o
5 ай бұрын
THE KISSING AUDIO I LITERALLY DIED IT SOUNDS SO BAD
@KozukiRinVT
5 ай бұрын
Yeah.. I remember when he added my GF (also a Vtuber ) to one of this perv lists. That's not the worst part tho, he knew BOTH her and I mutually and top of that knew we were dating. luckily nothing weird progressed past that
@sarahramsey289
29 күн бұрын
he's not even talking to me and i even feel disturbed 0-0 i wish nothing but love and support on all your healing journey's
@eyrist1369
5 ай бұрын
this is shocking to hear as someone who's been watching Tora since his earlier days at vtubing-- I popped into his streams here and there and he's always struck me as just a fun and funny person! It really does hit different when it's someone you've personally watched and interacted with (parasocially) that gets exposed like this I wish only the best to all the victims. I hope life treats you all kinder from here on.
@hamachi117
5 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this video. there are more than this dude out there and one of them is making my favorite Vtuber uncomfortable too, I am not gonna mention the name. so damn mad when he still act and doing it.
@elricvos
5 ай бұрын
I appreciate the informative video on the situation as I was out of the loop considering all of the recent drama in the vtuber community. I’m really enjoying your new long form content Saph, good job!
@sapheravt
5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!! 🥺💜 I def hope focused videos can help make the topics more understandable, esp since Twitter honestly has the worst search/finding system fr lol
@mindoongie
5 ай бұрын
thank you so much for sharing this! if i had found him before seeing this, i definitely would've engaged because of his model. i freaking love tigers so thank you for helping me dodge a bullet!
@sxvliz_
5 ай бұрын
watching Tora saying "daisuki dayo" and speaking in general made me disturbed /srs 😨😨
@fluffyunicorn2336
5 ай бұрын
This is insane, when I got to the list of victims of Tora's my heart kept sinking as the list just getting longer and longer. It is truly unbelievable how one person could be horrible enough to do that much damage just to please himself.
@T3DDYB34R0
5 ай бұрын
I thought I could handle cringe then the first clips of him came up…
@Cayleesi
5 ай бұрын
The physical recoil and gasp I made hearing his audio and the shit he sent Zenith (who I saw first on my timeline before I knew what was going on)....I stg. Some people are complete losers and creeps.
@a13m34
5 ай бұрын
I didn't put this on my 2024 bingo
@SILLYYYYYZZZ
2 ай бұрын
17:21 OK CAN WE TALK ABOUT HOW DAMN STUNNING THIS MODEL IS?!
@KYUUSTAR
5 ай бұрын
what the thug was that asmr video, goodness gracious I was cringing, I think I was slowly dying during this video from that guy 💀💀 anyways the quality of this video was absolutely awesome, great stuff to listen to while I draw 😛
@vexile1239
5 ай бұрын
I heard one second of it and I physically recoiled
@peachiceteaforeva
2 ай бұрын
The victims should take the guy to court for sexual harrasement and etc.
@Scyclo
5 ай бұрын
i actually used to follow this guy, when i saw this i checked twitter and lo and behold he did infact deactivate his twitter. I only caught like one stream, and i thought he was just another one of those stupidly horny vtubers. He seemed chill, but i only really interacted with him like two or three times. It makes me sad that people like this exist in the vtuber community giving them a bad name.
@omega20XX
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the longform content. Very interesting to listen to, especially in a community I don’t know much of.
@FantasiephilosophRaku
5 ай бұрын
That guy wasted no time, he wanted girls that badly but what surprises me was how easy it was to get them to love him.
@FernBlackwood1995
4 ай бұрын
A lot of young women really want to feel loved and he basically exploited that. Sad as hell.
@FantasiephilosophRaku
4 ай бұрын
@@FernBlackwood1995 Damn right, those poor women could have had a guy that really cared about them but instead they got someone that caused them a lot of trust issues towards people.
@wtf..............
3 ай бұрын
@@FantasiephilosophRaku that's why good dad figure is needed, they make their daughters feel loved enough not to chase after a wanting feeling and know their worth
@FantasiephilosophRaku
3 ай бұрын
@@wtf.............. Exactly
@moonbeam3431
3 ай бұрын
@@FantasiephilosophRakuwhen I was younger, a similar thing happened to me. (Not with somebody famous or anything, just a guy I met online who was my age through a game I used to play). Years later, the guy came back and I still had let him befriend me again because I was in a vulnerable place. You’d be surprised what people allow when they feel lonely and insecure. I’d never let it happen again now, but he almost got me TWICE. Lol! I kicked that guy to the curb and blocked him ever since, but I had to do a lot of confidence rebuilding to be able to see his true intentions.
@Sunnybias
5 ай бұрын
Thank you for bringing awareness to this creep! I’m glad people are speaking out and this video is catching attention.
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