Vacheron is my favorite of the 3, I'd love to get a 1921 one day
@adams733
Жыл бұрын
Love this… from a larger production pov I think you guys nailed it. That’s easily VC, PP and AP. Would love to see this video but talking about the independents/relatively smaller folks. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@WatchesbyOliverSmithJeweler
Жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@kevinfehr8100
Жыл бұрын
Lange makes the best movements and their finishing is unreal, IMO. They are horrible at marketing and branding, so they are often overlooked compared to the Holy Trinity. Their workmanship and quality is right up there with the big 3!
@richardweir3342
Жыл бұрын
Don't totally agree with that. I do agree that their finishing is equal to the top three, but when it comes to movements I would say JLC make the best movements, and that's why AP, Patek and Vacheron have used them.
@kevinfehr8100
Жыл бұрын
@@richardweir3342 very valid point! Speaking high horology, we need to also have Breguet in the conversation!!
@richardweir3342
Жыл бұрын
@@kevinfehr8100 definitely agree with Breguet, a very classy brand.
@The_real_Mr_Ghost
Жыл бұрын
Lange has higher finishing and craftsmanship than the so called holy Trinity. AP has the worst of them all
@guridhesi
10 ай бұрын
In Lange's defense, its technically the holy trinity of swiss watchmaking. If it was just the trinity, then AP would be out and Lange would not just be in, it would hold the top spot inside the trinity.
@RecordSisi
Жыл бұрын
VC is the maison that embodies Greatness , classicism and integrity . In my eyes , the most exclusive out of the holy trinity . We can observe than only powerful people are wearing it ( not looking to be aknowledged by randoms )
@matthewburden9403
7 күн бұрын
I have a few Breguets but I am not powerful.
@RecordSisi
7 күн бұрын
@@matthewburden9403 watches are trivial objects so we can't be really powerful admiring such things . Outside of it , Breguet are cheap
@dsvillalva
Жыл бұрын
Great overview! Elisabeth I love the AP on your wrist. There are other brands making timepieces at the same level and standard as the holy trinity including A Lange & Sohne and independents like F.P. Journe.
@SuperAmo87
9 ай бұрын
Vacheron is the one for me
@VmanStudioz
7 күн бұрын
The Holy Trinity historical roots has always been confined to the Swiss Watch market. In my humble opinion, The Holy Trinity is an outdated branding excercise. With brands like FP Journe and A Lange & Sohnne, there are now many newcomers that rival these old school watch houses. To APs credit, nobody talks about their amazing catalogue other than their Royal Oak, which in many ways is the least amount of AP you can buy. AP minute repeaters and grand comps get zero attention. Great video, keep making content.
@Jdinaz
Жыл бұрын
Great place! I visited Ryan and Bill yesterday and walked out with two watches for a great deal (super thrilled. Thanks guys). Fair pricing. Fair trading policies. A real pleasurable experience all around.
@WatchesbyOliverSmithJeweler
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, it was a pleasure meeting you! We hope to see you in Scottsdale again soon
@DGA2000
4 ай бұрын
I always thought Breguet, the developer of the TOURBILLON should be right up there with the trinity to make it a quadrinity (or maybe a tetrinity).
@3ncrypt3dcod3s
Жыл бұрын
AP should be cut after those hideous comic book watches. Tell me with a straight face those are timeless.
@shawnhanson7520
Жыл бұрын
Again, another great video! Lots of information and great pieces to illustrate your points! Keep it going!
@VmanStudioz
Жыл бұрын
No mention of A Lange & Sohne - C’mon 👊🏼⌚️
@matthewburden9403
7 күн бұрын
you fail to know what this holy trinity is - lang can NEVER be such a memeber
@raymondcoia4772
Жыл бұрын
Great video Ryan & Elizabeth! Love the history intertwined. A must visit for any Timepiece Aficionado. They have a great selection and an extremely knowledgeable and professional staff. My Favorite Panerai Selection. Shoutout to My Main Man Ryan! 😎⌚️
@WatchesbyOliverSmithJeweler
Жыл бұрын
We appreciate the kind words! Thanks for tuning in
@DonLee1980
Жыл бұрын
When I think of quintessential Patek, I think of perpetual calendar chronographs.
@WatchesbyOliverSmithJeweler
Жыл бұрын
Fair!
@matthewburden9403
7 күн бұрын
@@WatchesbyOliverSmithJeweler good thinking
@asensibleyoungman2978
9 ай бұрын
Patek Philippe, Audemars Piguet and Vacheron Constantin may be the Holy trinity but the Casio F-91W is the Supreme Being.
@matthewburden9403
7 күн бұрын
no argument there
@mattfoss1652
Жыл бұрын
Half of Patek’s output is ladies quartz watches. What does that tell you?? Many collectors will tell you that Lange and Journe are far better than Patek.
@richardweir3342
Жыл бұрын
A Lange and Sohne are equal to the top three, but not better. FP Jorne are also good but I think their designs are way off what people want and if they where not pushed so hard by Matchbox, they would not be even mentioned.
@dannyg6592
Жыл бұрын
Nice episode. I'd love to someday own either a vintage Calatrava or a vintage AP dress watch. Not a fan of the RO or the Nautilus. Cheers!
@WatchesbyOliverSmithJeweler
Жыл бұрын
Both great choices!
@TRGNetwork
11 ай бұрын
Here because of Ruxin34, awesome box Ryan and keep crushing the watch game 🙌
@chrishunter2323
Жыл бұрын
Why Does AP get regarded in the Holy Trinity when all they have is the RO? They literally have no other independent model lines outside of the RO that people want. One Trick Pony!
@matthewburden9403
7 күн бұрын
Marketing - - - does this answer your question?
@tioo5265
8 ай бұрын
BREGUET! ! ! ! They should not be in the trinity, BREGUET Vader voice " Is their father!" T)
@MusikPiratCH
5 ай бұрын
Patek Philippe's movements are rivaled by A. Lange & Söhne. IMHO A. Lange & Söhne even makes the better movements! As a Swiss I have to admit this fact! It doesn't change the holy trinity because this is only about Swiss watches. Swatch group even claims that Blancpain stays the oldest brand in the world! And it's amazing to note that Blancpain never made quartz watches. Even the Blancpain x Swatch watches use System 51 - the automatic movement by Swatch! 😇
@matthewburden9403
7 күн бұрын
But would you really want to wear a big-ass thing of A. Lange? I wouldn't!
@youthinasia114
Жыл бұрын
Ryan is the man 💪🏼
@WatchesbyOliverSmithJeweler
Жыл бұрын
We agree!
@jerdonsbabbler3515
9 ай бұрын
Love the video. You're pronouncing "Constantin" incorrectly. You're almost there with "Vacheron".
@matthewburden9403
7 күн бұрын
Yea! Right! Now stop Babbling over school girly crap.
@jerdonsbabbler3515
7 күн бұрын
@@matthewburden9403 Oh. Okay. Sorry.
@yuenkh78
7 ай бұрын
@8:40 the watch shown is not the VC57260, the watch with 57 complications tho
@idontmindifisaid
10 ай бұрын
I like to add Jaeger LeCoutre. Have you guys ever seen their high end complications? Check out the Reverso Hybris Mechanica Calibre 185.
@scottt.4596
Жыл бұрын
Great content! Thanks!
@jessecumbee6156
Жыл бұрын
You have to keep Rolex in there but I also understand having Vasch Constantine in there as it’s also right on that list. Maybe it shouldn’t be a trinity but a quaternity and that wood solve it
@richardweir3342
Жыл бұрын
Rolex can never be in the holy trinity for the reasons that where mentioned, there finishing is machined and not done by hand
@emphasis20
11 ай бұрын
Rolex is in a separate tier with brands like Omega, Glashutte Original, Grand Seiko, and Zenith.
@quasiunafantasia3070
10 ай бұрын
Trinity swiss watches are like rolls royce, even if you have enough money you can’t buy it or you have to wait in a queue for it(Plus they are mostly handmade and complex watches). While rolex is like mercedes, if you have money you can order one(They are mostly fabricated and simpler).
@langstondah5219
6 ай бұрын
@emphasis20 Uh no. Omega isn't better than Rolex on ANY level and whike Glas may have better movement overall its not as durable or well made as Rolex Rolex isn't Rolex because of marketing my man, it a damn good watch. SMDH FBA/B1
@matthewburden9403
7 күн бұрын
@@richardweir3342 that aint the reason dude - - Rolex was founded in London and not Switzerland. This Duo do not know what they are talking about other than marketing expensive watches.
@solidusfox
5 ай бұрын
Breguet and JLC should be up there too :(
@matthewburden9403
7 күн бұрын
Breguet in many ways is a better watch but it can not because it is French origin.
@mikeshandling8074
Жыл бұрын
Great job 👍👍👍
@DadeMurphie
27 күн бұрын
The holy trinity is Rolex, Omega & TAG
@matthewburden9403
7 күн бұрын
You said a lot about each of these fine watchmakers but like politicians you said nothing. The so-called Holy Trinity of Watch Makers refers ONLY to those watch makers who founded their companies in Switzerland, which you fail to mention. Many argue that Breguet (which may be a better timepiece than any you mentioned herewith) can NEVER be among this trinity since Breguet founded his company in France - and should always be considered a French establishment, similarly to Rolex, which was founded in England, and of course Lange is German.
@punchfu4341
2 ай бұрын
Vc It's my favorite
@luke9437
11 ай бұрын
Vacheron Constantin
@johannty7260
3 ай бұрын
VC
@ultimatedouchebag6760
Жыл бұрын
Rolex is a brand for people that don't know watch....it's like owning a Honda and claim it's a race car
@asensibleyoungman2978
9 ай бұрын
Honda have made some of the greatest and most successful engines in the history of motor racing. They've supplies engines to Formula 1, MotoGp, IndyCar, world touring car and world sports car among others. Your analogy is crap.
@ultimatedouchebag6760
9 ай бұрын
@@asensibleyoungman2978 my analogy is fine....Honda makes a good motor just like Rolex makes a good watch... but both companies are crap compare to the bigger brands.
@asensibleyoungman2978
9 ай бұрын
@@ultimatedouchebag6760 They are superior to bigger brands. Try using a Ferrari every day. It'll break and cost you hundreds of thousands to keep running. They're just poorly engineered mobile trinkets. Honda make the most reliable engines in the world plus they have made motor racing engines that have beaten the likes of Ferrari. You clearly know nothing about engines. No motorsport guy, mechanic or enthusiast would ever describe Honda as crap.
@langstondah5219
6 ай бұрын
@@ultimatedouchebag6760 No dude, you don't know watches. Nor cars obviously!!!!!! 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅 FBA/B1
@matthewburden9403
7 күн бұрын
You do not know what you are talking about, at least when it comes to horology - any Rolex chronometer used with a sextant and almanacs is made for and capable of locating and navigating a person to any place on earth. I don't know about you but I would rather have a Honda than just about any race car.
@egza2062
2 ай бұрын
Lange & Söhne make really nice watches, too. But they are German. So better to say it is Swiss Trinity.
@matthewburden9403
7 күн бұрын
you make no sense at all -- German --- Swiss Trinity?
@egza2062
6 күн бұрын
@@matthewburden9403why not? Swiss trinity is only with Swiss watches. If you take all watches then you have to put Lange & Söhne into the trinity.
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