This is like all the negatives of tuning a piano and all the negatives of tuning a guitar put into one, along with some extra random challenging factors. Sheesh
@MountainHomeJerrel
9 ай бұрын
One of the risks is stabbing yourself under your fingernail if you don't cut the string ends well. Hooray!
@garyleppla9314
9 ай бұрын
It must sound good,, tuned, and if you can play it.
@MountainHomeJerrel
9 ай бұрын
@garyleppla9314 I'll share a new video soon once the repairs are finished.
@sp00k48
7 ай бұрын
@@MountainHomeJerrelI did that with my classical guitar.
@hifijohn
6 ай бұрын
just got one from ebay, it takes all day to tune it.
@marvinthemaniac7698
10 ай бұрын
Now I'm thinking about selling my antique autoharp.
@MountainHomeJerrel
10 ай бұрын
Why sell? I'm getting viola strings to try on Banjolele.
@marvinthemaniac7698
10 ай бұрын
@@MountainHomeJerrel awesome! I was talking about my autoharp since it's such a pain to tune.
@MountainHomeJerrel
10 ай бұрын
@marvinthemaniac7698 hahaha, that would certainly get rid of your tuning problem. I'll make a tuning tips video. I start at the high end and tune sharp so by the time I get to the bottom strings, the whole instrument is very close to being in tune.
@marvinthemaniac7698
10 ай бұрын
@@MountainHomeJerrel thanks bro
@daniellambert726
9 ай бұрын
It's like a giant floyd rose!
@MountainHomeJerrel
9 ай бұрын
Hahaha, yes!! But not a good way.
@DC180
8 ай бұрын
imagine guitars weren't invented and everyone had to play this
@MountainHomeJerrel
8 ай бұрын
I'd feel like something was missing from my life and we were probably in one of the not-so-good timelines.
@helenmccann9084
9 ай бұрын
My head is wrecked
@gitaarfreakoriginal
8 ай бұрын
Makes me think about that 12 string floyd rose tremolo
@MountainHomeJerrel
8 ай бұрын
Well that sounds like a nightmare.
@bjornlangoren3002
9 ай бұрын
Even the small triangular zithars for kids is a nightmare to tune, since a string goes from the back across the sound board, around a peg , and back again to a single tuning peg. Then need to pull and realease to get the correct interval between those 2 strands, never mind getting them up to pitch against the rest.
@MountainHomeJerrel
9 ай бұрын
Interesting. I havent seen one of those in person though I have a pianolin Zither that has what sounds like that setup.
@bjornlangoren3002
9 ай бұрын
@@MountainHomeJerrel they are very common in eastern Europe. You can even get play by numbers sheet music that you stick under the strings and just follow the dots. They also go by name lap harp.
@MountainHomeJerrel
9 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing that. I've heard of a lap harp but don't have one. Maybe I'll have to check that out. I have a few zithers imported from Europe, specifically some from Germany. I obtained a Harpeleik from Sweden, some chord zithers from UK, and have recently won an auction for a rare Lion Zither. I'll share that as soon as it is delivered. @@bjornlangoren3002
@bjornlangoren3002
9 ай бұрын
These are sold more as toys than instruments, but are perfectly playable. I got mine on a yard sale for 5 bucks. Probably 20-50 on Amazon.
@maxxinewillow3097
8 ай бұрын
The thought of restringing and tuning my eko ranger 12 string doesn’t seem nearly as bad after watching this lol
@MountainHomeJerrel
8 ай бұрын
hahah, and also you can just buy a pack for a 12 string guitar anywhere. you can't buy a string Pack for this and have to use a bunch of different packs mixed together.
@maxxinewillow3097
8 ай бұрын
@@MountainHomeJerrel gawd yeah thats a point and a half, and then some 😂
@jasontucher7011
8 ай бұрын
Nothing quite like sitting there for hours not breaking strings and when it's all done it needs to be done again. They sound great though.
@MountainHomeJerrel
8 ай бұрын
That's when you silently shed a single tear like Frodo at the end of Fellowship of The Ring.
@jasontucher7011
8 ай бұрын
@@MountainHomeJerrel Bourbon helps. Are you from Arkansas by chance? Your screen name made me think you are.
@MountainHomeJerrel
8 ай бұрын
@@jasontucher7011 Nice, I can get behind that. I grew up in California and spend much of my time there adventuring and exploring the mountains, Sierra Nevadas. I've had friends from Arkansas but never been there myself. Looks beautiful and I'd like to adventure around there one day.
@jasontucher7011
8 ай бұрын
@@MountainHomeJerrel Awsome! I'm from Hot Springs. If you ever adventure here the north west is the best. Plane tickets aside you could have a really good vacation for $2500.00. Spring and early fall are the best times to come. Have a happy new year!
@MountainHomeJerrel
8 ай бұрын
@@jasontucher7011 hey thanks for that! I'll keep that in mind. Have a great 2024, happy new year!
@user-mk3pi2rm9b
8 ай бұрын
Hi, I have one with a "Hammer board". Would you know anything about thys différent type of "harpsycord" as my great grandmother would name it?
@MountainHomeJerrel
8 ай бұрын
Yes, that's wonderful! Good for you. You can find information online about them by looking up "Celestaphone ", which is the general broad term for those Zithers with chromatic hammered strings, or "marxophone" which is a specific brand. I have one overseas so I don't have it with me. They are unique and beautiful instruments.
@jesuisravi
8 ай бұрын
What a nightmare.
@musicinstrumentlibrarytheater
9 ай бұрын
I have one of those! Old strings!!!!
@ColonelFluffles
9 ай бұрын
The other varient of this instrument has like 3 string per course 💀💀💀
@MountainHomeJerrel
9 ай бұрын
Oh how wonderful. That sounds about 3 times as chaotic.
@ellenphilomena4535
9 ай бұрын
Is a 1930s american zither any easier??
@MountainHomeJerrel
9 ай бұрын
There's such a huge range of Zither variations and so far, all that I have seen and used are much easier than this "Symphony Zither".
@spincycle5719
8 ай бұрын
Normal Tuning: Only takes about 2-3 months to master Whatever TF This Is: Needs a master luthier
@MountainHomeJerrel
8 ай бұрын
😭 The multiple new string packs I ordered to finish this repair has gotten lost in the mail. It's almost like this instrument wants me to enjoy the restringing experience for as long as possible.
@mikesoule1352
10 ай бұрын
Where do you get new strings? I assume strings for these old zithers aren't made anymore, and they are different sizes from autoharp strings. Do you just make-do with guitar strings? I have a 4 chord diatonic Oscar Schmitt zither made in 1906, and the strings are rusted. Still plays, but would sound much better with new strings. Thanks.
@MountainHomeJerrel
10 ай бұрын
I used Lyre strings in combination with guitar strings. I bought about 5 packs of 21 string sets of lyre strings and 8 sets of the cheapest brass guitar strings, all of which you can find on eBay. The cheap guitar strings should be about $3 a pack, and I use them specifically because they are significantly lighter than a "real", decent set of guitar strings.
@behinddeadeyes
9 ай бұрын
these are actually quite common in german/austrian folk music
@MountainHomeJerrel
9 ай бұрын
I do admire German Zithers. Germany has so many and Australia has so few.
@mohamadghasabi6854
9 ай бұрын
This looks similar to a great instrument called "Santoor" in my country, Iran.
@MountainHomeJerrel
9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting. I'll look up videos of the Santoor.
Of course. Getting stabbed all the time with the tight spacing on the tuning pegs.
@jamesocker5235
8 ай бұрын
Sounds like it need more stiffness in back to keep if rom flexing
@MountainHomeJerrel
8 ай бұрын
you're right. these zithers weren't built with much material for ant kind of bracing. They certainly weren't built like guitars with beautiful solid spruce or mahogany.
@BeesKneesBenjamin
9 ай бұрын
Still a luxury compared to restringing a piano haha
@Aaron-zh4kj
9 ай бұрын
That only advantage I can think of that this has over tuning a piano is just that there’s fewer strings. It doesn’t really seem that much easier than the process of tuning a piano otherwise. In some ways harder. On a piano, you have a metal frame that won’t move like wood, unlike this, then you have all the novelties he mentions in the video. I have a little bit of experience tuning pianos, so speaking out the bit of experience I do have, what he’s telling us, and how I’m understanding both.
@MountainHomeJerrel
9 ай бұрын
Yes, I think maybe a piano would be harder in some ways due to all the strings!
@Aaron-zh4kj
9 ай бұрын
@@MountainHomeJerrel Fair enough. It sounds like you would know better than most of us. I have a fair bit of experience with working on guitars, less so pianos. I'll take your word for it.
@bjornlangoren3002
9 ай бұрын
Piano is more work but much easier to do. I've tried both. You can get the piano close to perfect, but a zithar you just have to give up at some point and declare it good enough.
@MountainHomeJerrel
9 ай бұрын
@@bjornlangoren3002 Thanks for your input and experience. Well, "giving up" is one way to say it. One major problem with Zithers is other ones tend of have stair stepping as you turn the tuning pegs and it becomes nigh impossible to make fine adjustments.
@jonsnothere84
9 ай бұрын
My wife is a lyre with 10 strings and that’s annoying, same stuff… I can’t imagine this, bro… quit
@MountainHomeJerrel
9 ай бұрын
Never give up. Never surrender.
@alantaylor353
9 ай бұрын
WHOAH.!!
@BernardGreenberg
9 ай бұрын
I would have liked to hear a little bit of what this instrument sounds like.
@MountainHomeJerrel
9 ай бұрын
Hello, thank you. I can't play it until I receive a shipment of new strings to complete the repair. It's taken SO many packs of strings and I couldn't finish the repair that night. If you subscribe, you'll see a video of this instrument being played properly as soon as I get the strings delivered and I can finish the setup. Cheers, matey!
@BernardGreenberg
9 ай бұрын
@@MountainHomeJerrel Thanks for this answer! Have you seen Ukranian banduras (roughly related instrument)...?
@MountainHomeJerrel
9 ай бұрын
@BernardGreenberg I've watched and admired videos of them on KZitem. The instruments are quite large so it is unlikely I'll ever be able to obtain one, but maybe I can visit Ukraine one day and see if I can try one. They're quite beautiful, aren't they?
@BernardGreenberg
9 ай бұрын
@@MountainHomeJerrel Indeed. I heard a house concert on one before the pandemic.
@The-xp4xj
9 ай бұрын
is it worth it?
@MountainHomeJerrel
9 ай бұрын
It's worth having a look back into our musical history. I'll likely never do a full restring on this ever again and just condition the strings as needed.
@roberthobbs6318
9 ай бұрын
An ADHD guitar players dream!!! (That’s me)
@tekiii333
8 ай бұрын
Don’t tell this guy guzhengs exist
@MountainHomeJerrel
8 ай бұрын
I've seen them but don't know anything yet about how they are restrung or maintained.
@0trippy
10 ай бұрын
But is it worth it?
@MountainHomeJerrel
10 ай бұрын
Oh, yeah, absolutely. It's got a fascinating sound that modern instruments can't come close to replicating.
@RogerERodriguez1k
9 ай бұрын
Just work at SpaceX
@MountainHomeJerrel
9 ай бұрын
😂
@calebcarney1933
9 ай бұрын
Sitar doesn’t seem so bad
@MountainHomeJerrel
9 ай бұрын
Maybe I should try one.
@curtcaudle5900
9 ай бұрын
Are you complaining or educating?
@MountainHomeJerrel
9 ай бұрын
I was lamenting after using 5 packs of lyre strings and 5 packs of guitar strings and staying up late to restring this, only to find out I still didn't have enough of the necessary string gauges.
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