I love how the "Western" train set has 1 piece of American rolling stock, and it is in Penn Central paint.
@bowser5678
4 жыл бұрын
Which makes the railcar from the 1960s.
@joem314
4 жыл бұрын
@@bowser5678 Yep, and from the northeast
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, from the 60s?! That's a bit naff then isn't it?! xD
@thomasoates3003
4 жыл бұрын
Penn Central came into existence in the 1960s, and never ran far west.
@bowser5678
4 жыл бұрын
Sam'sTrains Penn Central was a merger between two Titan railroads on the East Coast, The Pennsylvania, and the New York Central. It only lasted two years before the new company went bankrupt. The financial fallout was so bad, the US Government stepped in and salvaged what was left into Amtrak and Conrail.
@snuk8977
4 жыл бұрын
"The worst quality train set ever" Christmas trains at garden centres: *Am I a joke to you?*
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
haha that's true - I should have said worst electric train set! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@MSMFurcorn22
Ай бұрын
Christmas trains at garden centres aren’t as bad as those wooden kit-built engines. (With some exceptions)
@Larry
4 жыл бұрын
If you think this is bad, you need to check out the "Christmas Train Sets" Garden centers sell, vastly overpriced tat that wouldn't even pass the quality in Pound Land.
@ScottsRailroadVideos
4 жыл бұрын
or these cheap battery powered toys with plastic track and horrable wagons
@railfilm
4 жыл бұрын
I also do not think that somebody has to complain about a starter set for kids from 8 year of age. How do you want to win them for our hobby when not with a cheap and running models or complete sets. This set for a price of single coach gives the kids an entertaimant for several days building the houses, and basically it runs like every even high end model. I do not understand why Sam emphasises the bad quality? It is not worse as any similar starting set. Of course you cannot get for this price a high quality moldings and 4 color printing, but basically you get a toy train for the kids and maybe one or more kids will discover the hobby what is basically our goal. Everybody must start at some level.
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Oh god really?! Maybe I will try one of those! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@jimbell6367
4 жыл бұрын
Haha defo
@ScottsRailroadVideos
4 жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains hey sam i got just the line for your channel (Sam's Trains: Buying crappy trains so we don't have too) ;)
@blackstone1a
4 жыл бұрын
>Western Train >Only has one car from an American Railroad >Said Railroad didn’t exist till the 1960s, was an east coast railroad, and likely didn’t haul ore. I know I’m nitpicking, but I gotta defend my ‘Murican trains.
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
haha, I wish I'd known this, lol! xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@DADeathinacan
4 жыл бұрын
Penn Central operated some ore trains, but the other two points of WTF are sure accurate! :P
@the4tierbridge
4 жыл бұрын
Steamloco, PC is an ore measurement as well.
@bigmart932
4 жыл бұрын
@@the4tierbridge That is correct, but there's also a Penn Central logo on it. It was definitely intended to be a Penn Central livery.
@harrybriscoe7948
4 жыл бұрын
when I was 7 years old my Matchbox Gray Hound bus shared town with red London double deckers .
@CymruJedi
4 жыл бұрын
I would have loved this when I was a kid. My family never had much money and couldn’t afford any of the Hornby models that were too expensive, but this would have kept me busy for so long and for the price this is something my parents could have afforded. I get it’s not for the serious modellers
@bentullett6068
4 жыл бұрын
I must admit this set does at least teach kids how to set up a layout, run trains and build card building kits. I would say it's already ahead of a hornby set even though it looks terrible.
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I see what your saying - but the other mehano sets cost less and were much better quality - so I couldn't recommend this! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@CymruJedi
4 жыл бұрын
Sam'sTrains completely understand what you mean mate
@Drewioawesome
4 жыл бұрын
Tango And 1361: *We Have The Worst Ratings* Mehano Western Train: *I Don't Even Know Who Yall Are*
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
haha!! xD
@thunderfox53
4 жыл бұрын
Thats funny
@Uptownloki47
4 жыл бұрын
They failed terribly at making a “Western” train set. Being an American I know exactly what a “Western” train should look like. A 4-4-0 or a 2-6-0 in bright colors with a Russian iron boiler and 30ft boxcars or passenger cars.
@WhatAboutTheBee
4 жыл бұрын
American here too. Where in the heck is the cow catcher? It looks, frankly like a European loco, without any pretense of western notes. And the "caboose"? Not even close! A rounded roof?
@raymondleggs5508
4 жыл бұрын
They made Spaghetti western style set instead
@boblatzer
4 жыл бұрын
I had heard that small shunting type locos were used in some remote regions around coal mines and lumber camps. That’s what this looks like to me.
@random0clock
4 жыл бұрын
Not in black and red with electric lighting. The locomotive looks more German than anything else.
@WhatAboutTheBee
4 жыл бұрын
@@boblatzer Hi Robert 👋 The logging locos were typically Shay locos, which really don't look like this at all. They had a longitudinal crank shaft with gear driven axles to handle the steep inclines and heavy loads. It was all low end torque, with no need for speed.
@vladcopeti1357
4 жыл бұрын
As a kid I remember seeing this train set being advertised every single Christmas season in Romania. The price at the time was 200 romanian lions (£40). I remember asking my parents if they could ask Santa to bring me one, instead I've received a DB narrow gauge G scale train set with a radio controller and it was a lot better.
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Wow really?! £40 is much more like it actually - I think I would have been much kinder if this had cost £40. But sure - the G scale one sounds better! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@vladcopeti1357
4 жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains they've stopped advertising the Western Train Set in Romania from 2010 because not many people could afford them and no one right in their mind will buy one because they could buy more toys for that price.
@midmissourirailroad
4 жыл бұрын
The things you were calling 'Teepees' are actually totem poles. The teepees were those cone shaped things.
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Ahh yeah of course - oops! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@tempestfury8324
4 жыл бұрын
And wigwams are dome shaped and not meant to be travelled with. What a totem pole is doing in the wild west is beyond me. Totems were exclusive to tribes in the Pacific Northwest. But hey, it's a toy not meant for any kind of accuracy.....after all how much do Chinese manufacturers really know about American history? This looks like a perfect candidate for the Gomez Addams treatment!
@toad6565
4 жыл бұрын
It reminds me of old Italian Spaghetti Western movies that are supposed to take place in the Wild West but were filmed in Europe. The trains in those films always gives away the fact its not really American.
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
haha yeah, that's what they were going for I think! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@vekkerandras
2 жыл бұрын
Ant they are filmed in Yugoslavia, and this set was made in Slovenia, which was also part of Yugoslavia :D
@TheEldritchHyena
11 ай бұрын
@@vekkerandras I'm pretty sure most of the old Spaghetti Westerns were actually filmed in Spain (The Good, the Bad, & the Ugly was at the very least).
@zetmoon
10 ай бұрын
@@TheEldritchHyenacorrect but also some films in Yugoslavia.
@importednascar
4 жыл бұрын
*Penn Central: I exist!* Bankruptcy: I'm about to end this railroad's whole career.
@JDsHouseofHobbies
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the chuckle!
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
haha! xD
@mqtcreations
4 жыл бұрын
PC stands for Penn Central, it was a 1970s american railroad, so very inaccurate for a steam era set.
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Duly noted, thanks for this!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@That_Thicc_Cat
4 жыл бұрын
And Pennsylvania is most certainly not a western state lol
@IS-2_1944
4 жыл бұрын
That engine is a 1920s switcher used in mines and logging railroads
@iron1349
4 жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains also it was formed from the New York Central and Pennsylvania Railroad merging, neither going west of Missouri.
@jeffreymcneal1920
3 жыл бұрын
Looks spot on for the train in the Spaghetti Western, "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly," by Sergio Leone (one of the most iconic, and excellent, Westerns ever filmed). To save money, the film was shot in Italy, and a key scene with a Western American train was exactly the above.
@HarryC_640
4 жыл бұрын
“Let’s go at 50% speed then” Takes off like a jet launching into the sky😂😂
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
haha it certainly did, lol! ;D
@triskellian
4 жыл бұрын
🤣😂🤣
@Elfnetdesigns
4 жыл бұрын
Thomas was behind schedule....
@thequietestengine
4 жыл бұрын
I cant believe I'm saying this, but THIS train looks more steampunk then the Hornby steampunk range 0_o someone get some cogs and gears on it, stat!
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
haha right?! That's true of most steam models actually xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@johnstewart9745
3 жыл бұрын
Bought one. Me aged 71 and four grandkids aged 4 to 12 ,had a great day doing the buildings painting and glueing and put I all together . Still working fine in my garage .after 18 months .SAM did a shoddy job .....only 50 quid well spent 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@VolfMark
3 жыл бұрын
Sam, you should try and find the same 0-4-0 locomotive and those cars from the Yugoslavia time (prior to mid 90s). Mehanotehnika produced really nice and teliable locomotives, but the economy crisis and the breakup of the coutry led to cutting corners. That locomotive used to have a lead weight in its boiler - the cheaper new version you have there has some kind of an aluminium alloy for the weight, which is much lighter. The cars also used to have metal plate weights - now they have none. All this contributed to better stability, pulling power and contact with the rails. The new version is simply lighter and "plasticy". I have an older rendition of a train set with identical models, but from the time it was built with more quality. Since you too like Mehano's trains, if you need any info/stories on Mehano's trains, contact me any time.
@railwayjade
4 жыл бұрын
This set is certainly for kids. Good starter set for them I think.
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah no doubt - although I wouldn't give this to a kid of mine, not with that build quality! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@fredrich9841
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sam! Between this video and your one on building the card kits I’ve had a right good laugh for the first time in ages during this pandemic! My wife says I need to comment that as an encouragement to you, and a thank you! 😀
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Fred that's very good to hear - let's hope this is all over soon!! Thanks for your kind words, Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@lukeslocomotives
4 жыл бұрын
Heljan 1361: *"Finally, a rival worthy of competition!"*
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
haha exactly!! ;D
@palamj2
3 жыл бұрын
"The cheap and nasty dial has been turned up on this" Pure gold Sam.
@SamsTrains
3 жыл бұрын
haha thank you John! xD Merry Christmas - Sam :)
@trainships1795
4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Old Marx Deluxe Starters Sets with the card stock buildings. Thanks for the trip down Memory Lane in America of 1969.
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
haha!! No problem mate! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@HeavyTanker-vx4oq
4 жыл бұрын
Mehano clearly don't know what American steamers look like that loco looks nothing like anything here in the states
@PHsRailwayVideos
4 жыл бұрын
It looks more like something from Germany
@rayvenkman2087
4 жыл бұрын
HeavyTanker1945 Don’t you remember that scene from Back to the Future III where they used this exact engine? Seems legit to me.
@Lt.Foulke
4 жыл бұрын
That’s what I thought...
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
haha yeah - everyone else has said the same thing! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@Elfnetdesigns
4 жыл бұрын
I guess they use what they have to work with, maybe they bought all the injection molds from Tyco, LifeLike, and other manufacturers of yesteryear and are using those..
@psanderbrand
3 жыл бұрын
This set is oooollld. I got this exact one when I was 7 years old (19 now) so I had something to play with while visiting my grandparents. I had a proper layout at home at the time with really good Piko trains . We actually put this set on a proper table too and I remember having quite a lot of fun with it. Probably more because I now had a second layout that I could bring my better trains to and run them, but I had my fun with it nonetheless. And finally one has to say that this engine does not need maintenance at all, it just runs. I've never cleaned or oiled it in the last 12 years (exept occasionally blowing the dust out between the contacts and the wheels) and whenever I give it to my little brother or my cousins, it just runs.
@SamsTrains
3 жыл бұрын
Wow! It has been around a long time then - buildings and all? Thanks for sharing! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@jjmac3561
2 жыл бұрын
Great starter kit, cheap enough to discover whether a child will be interested long-term. The elephant Pat could be used as a mold for expanding foam.
@kiarablake93
2 жыл бұрын
Ooh i got this for Christmas about 10 years ago and it's how i got into model trains and all of it still works although i don't use the track anymore obviously. Aslo mine had 2 straight track pieces, the loco doesn't have any molding errors but both of the open carts were in the lighter colored version
@masterofsouthern5427
4 жыл бұрын
To be honest if I was 5 years old I would be buzzing about this train set despite being low scoring one. Great review Sam 🙂🙂
@bentullett6068
4 жыл бұрын
I think its great. The Mehano sets do seem to teach children how to construct card building kits.
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah me too - but obviously the poor quality could easily ruin things - I definitely wouldn't risk giving this to a 5 year old! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@matic713
4 жыл бұрын
When I got my first model train 6 years ago (It was Mehano Moutain Special) it was very good, and it is still working perfectly fine. It doesn't have any problems with moulding or paint work and it wasn't dirty. Every thing was in palce when I opened it. And there were two straights in this and western set. Maybe Mehano started to care less. They were very good in producing model trains. i Mehano produces Prestige series, they are something between Hornby Railway and Hornby Railroad. And loco is based on German narrow guage loco W.N. 12 and W.N. 11.
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Interesting! Lots of these Mehano sets are really good, just this one sucked :( Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@blackterminal
4 жыл бұрын
I have children and I know they would love this. Kids see the world different to Adults. One of the beautiful things about children
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
That's true - but even kids need a degree of quality - you want toys to stay together and look good, that's a basic requirement! xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@diedertspijkerboer
4 жыл бұрын
I'm sad that this train set did so badly. I really like that Mehano make really affordable train sets. I still think, though, that this set could still be a good first set for a kid of about 7yo to see if the hobby is something for him / her.
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah sorry about that - I wouldn't want a beginner to have this as their first experience in the hobby - would you?!? Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@jeannedarcalterberserker8620
4 жыл бұрын
Your train set reviews are my favorite. I like the rolling stock, especially the brown post van, I don't know why but it's my favorite. The PC wagon looks kinda out of place but the others look good together. The weakness of this set is definitely the loco. It looks like a deformed Lima tank engine with a very weird looking funnel. Maybe it's the wheels and the weird proportions like the lamp size you have mentioned. It's a shame because the rest of the set doesn't look too bad for the money. I can definitely agree with your rating. It's a shame because some parts are very decent like the controller. Great review as always, Sam 👍 definitely deserves a thumbs up from me.
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!! Yeah that brown van was an interesting one! Thanks so much for your thoughts and support, appreciate the comment! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@Cutelatinguy2
7 ай бұрын
If I had this as a kid in the 70s, I would have spent HOURS imagining I was in a western town! Great beginner's set for kids who are old enough for an electric train set.
@PHsRailwayVideos
4 жыл бұрын
Sam: I don't think any kids would look at this and go, 'oh, that's low resolution!' Me: well Sam, that's 'cause you've never met me.
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
haha probably not! They'd probably just look at the train instead, and see the filth! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@nastynate4916
2 жыл бұрын
I like that the map on the box shows the Midwest and the east coast, about everywhere but the west
@Seasonal50
4 жыл бұрын
The loco looks interesting. Haven’t finished watching yet but maybe it would make a good shunter?
@Veneno2911
4 жыл бұрын
Yes it could also be a good explosin lol :)
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
haha yeah - one or the other! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@drewcambage7061
4 жыл бұрын
It pushed my up cupola caboose of my rable
@sdmedia1323
3 жыл бұрын
It could be a good scrap piece. Paint it up and take it to pieces and place it somewhere.
@AndreiTupolev
4 жыл бұрын
"Quality control was nil ": sounds a pretty good summary of the actual Penn Central, from what I've heard of it
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
haha yeah, I'm hearing a lot of that!! xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@ACLProps
4 жыл бұрын
So glad you did this review, I was very tempted by this set but it's clearly no cargo train. I was wondering if you've ever been tempted by Z scale model railways? Theres something so cute and novel about them, but they seem expensive
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andrew! I have been interested in that in the past - maybe I'll try some one day! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@rolandvonthun1403
3 жыл бұрын
I'm an American, and a "western" train would have a 4-4-0, and a bobber caboose, a couple of 30 foot boxcars
@_LLevi_
4 жыл бұрын
I love vids whit cheap trains. Suggestions : Try to find one on wish XD
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
OH god - I don't know if I'm brave enough! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@skuula
4 жыл бұрын
Haha those Wish train sets will POSION you. If you eat more than 50 of them.
@Shr3dd3r2k8
2 жыл бұрын
Definitely a set that nobody would be upset if you took it apart and completely customized it just for the fun of it, and likely you could find it cheap used/bargain bin. Looking at the shiny plastic just makes me want to get out my paint, but then I paint miniatures and don't do trains. Yet.
@britanniaolivercromwell5006
4 жыл бұрын
Why does it look like it could disintegrate at any time
@Veneno2911
4 жыл бұрын
Because it could
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly - I'm sure it could! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@22763344
3 жыл бұрын
Este tren hubiera sido para mí, un deleite cuando tenía 6 o 7 años de edad. Despertar la imaginación y el espíritu del juego. Esa marca hace una oferta, algo distante en cuando a realidad, de lo que fue LIMA, a inicios de los años 70s, donde en comparación con MARKLIN o FLEISCHMANN, ofrecían juegos completos y accesorios, a un precio competitivo. Al ser esto un tren a nivel de juguete, pues no se puede pedir mucho, pese a que vi dos góndolas, que se aproximan más a los vagones de mayor precio y otras marcas. Aunque MEHANO, también fabrica modelos a otro nivel más alto. Gracias por su review.
@the4tierbridge
4 жыл бұрын
If it was sold as a “South American train set” then I think they did an Ok job (not the scenery). But they marketed as U.S.A western, so bad. No cow Catcher, it’s a tank engine. We barley even use tank engines, and during the period they were trying to represent, they didn’t EXIST in the country, not to mention the west, where lots of water would be needed due to how long the journey is, and how hot it is out here. The most popular tank engine in the U.S.A was the saddle tank anyway!
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah everyone is saying that - doesn't look very American! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@ronclark9724
4 жыл бұрын
No caboose either... The saddle tank were used on urban branches serving warehouse and industrial areas, tank locomotives are for short range. Unfortunately the West is large with large distances...
@rd4902
4 жыл бұрын
Sam, you could follow this up with another episode showing the models after improvement and explaining what you did i.e. painting, fitting handrails etc? you could also ask viewers to submit any photos of their attempt to improve it especially the caboose?
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
You definitely could - I don't think I could reasonably get another video out of this though, haha! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@raymondleggs5508
4 жыл бұрын
looks like 70's Jouef/Lima/playart reproductions from very worn out molds and low quality plastic.
@bentullett6068
4 жыл бұрын
I have the Lima 040 and it looks a lot better than the loco in this set. Can't believe Hornby haven't found the tooling for it to use as a Hornby Railroad model
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
haha could well be - so is the lima 0-4-0 based on this?? Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@bentullett6068
4 жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains the Lima 0-4-0 is based on a American Model power locomotive and for a budget model looks better than this loco. I think this cheap loco might be one of the other budget locomotives from Jouef or Playart
@survivingworldsteam
4 жыл бұрын
Yes; this set reminds me of the Western Themed train sets put out by Tyco, Marx, Lionel, and others in the late 1950s to 1960s to try to cash in on the popularity of Western themed television shows and movies. Some were pretty good, but many of them were like this; the one thing Mehano forgot to do on this one was put a huge spark arresting smokestack and a pointed cowcatcher on the engine; in some instances that was all they did to turn a conventional engine into a "Western" engine. Most of them were poor sellers.
@leilacentral1883
4 жыл бұрын
I love watching these cheap set reviews that you do. Was very surprised to see the wagons looked pretty well detailed for their price. "It's hideous isn't it?" ha perfect word. That shiny plastic is really cringeworthy to be honest. A simply re-spray with an aerosol can might make all the different with their appearance if people wanted tho. The lifting track as the train went around was hilarious tho! All the best and keep well, Clint
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, they are good entertainment at least! Yeah the shiny plastic sucks - never a good time for that, lol! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@peterlutz7191
4 жыл бұрын
Designed in Slovenia, Mehano was/is a children's toy company and sold to a company in China,
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info Peter! :D
@seagraverailwaysandmodels2408
4 жыл бұрын
I was literally looking at these on Amazon 2 hours ago with the view of getting one. Never has one of your videos been more timely!
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
haha perfect, lol! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@MemeReviewer
4 жыл бұрын
I always love your content man, it always feels appropriate to just sit down and watch your videos with some popcorn!
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much mate, that's lovely to hear!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@MemeReviewer
4 жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains Of course, thanks for replying.
@iceeblueburst03
4 жыл бұрын
10:01 Elephant poop makes a return 😂
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Indeed it does!! :D
@TomPrickVixen
4 жыл бұрын
My brother got a very similar set in 2000's Xmass when he was 7.5 years old (same loco + that ugly mail car, with 2 green coaches - passenger set - , no carboard stuff, but a small plastic platform with roof, came with it). He had a lot of fun with it; with the addition some LEGO and other toy buildings and stuff, + 2 points and some straight tracks from me (i was 16)! The loco many years later was still working despite we do tried to kill it. We just called it "Somerset" do to when u switch direction on a controller at full speed (without slowing it down) it does a front-flip! I think i still have that ugly mail-car in my junkyard, but we sold the rest 1 by 1 more than 12 years ago! We kind of miss that loco; it was funny! BTW those non NEM socketed wagons can take the older style US horn hook (or X2F) coupling, loco too I think (and the open wagons are clearly EU style)!
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Very cool Tom, sounds like these have appeared a lot over the years, thanks for sharing! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@paulroberts8946
4 жыл бұрын
I think I know where they got the idea for the church they took a look at the church at Chesterfield!😂
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
haha exactly!! lol! ;D
@hollyruston2444
4 жыл бұрын
Everything that a kid could want for Xmas. Enough to keep Junior busy until lunchtime 😁
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
haha very true!! ;D
@TheloniasBrowntail
Жыл бұрын
The locomotive and cars kind of look like the kind of train you'd find at a rickety old mineshaft. One could spruce it up to look rusty and sooty. Poke some parts of plastic with a heat gun or something to make it look more banged and dented to give it that "salvaged and repaired after a cave-in" look.
@crystalrock18
4 жыл бұрын
What I find interesting is that mega o labeled the hopper car under Penn Central railroad company colors. Penn central was formed in the early 1970’s (I could be wrong) as a merger between the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central Railroad. These companies were East Coast railroad companies and the fact that Mehano labeled this set as an “American western set” is quite, well humorous. If it was labeled: Union Pacific Southern pacific Western pacific Denver and Rio Grande Then this would make sense. What can I say Sam, I love everything that deals with trains. Also the amount of fellow American viewers on this channel is also quite impressive. Just shows you how much us “Yankers” love trains.
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that is odd - wonder if it was literally just stock left over from something else?! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@diedertspijkerboer
4 жыл бұрын
My first train set was a high quality one made by Märklin and given to me for my 9th birthday or so. At first, I was really happy with it, but then I realized how expensive Märklin products were (which I had to buy due to their proprietary system). This led to years of disappointment and frustration and, eventually, giving up the hobby for decades. If I had received a set similar to this one, I might not have been as excited at first, but I would have enjoyed the hobby much more in the long term, realizing that there are much cheaper ways to enjoy it. If I were a parent, I'd buy this set or something similar for my kid, see if the model railway bug really bites and, maybe later, give some gifts that will outlast childhood.
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Ahh blimey - this definitely won't stack up well to Marklin - they are expensive, but you get what you pay for! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@diedertspijkerboer
4 жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains I agree that Märklin is good quality but it is still far, far too expensive for me to buy new. PS thanks for taking the time to reply!
@furripupau
4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me a bit of the old Playart train set with what were obviously German prototype wagons and tank engine, just painted in bright colors.
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Ooh interesting! I'll have to google those! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@williamsquires3070
Жыл бұрын
(@9:22) That’s a bit of the track. You can tell by the molded-on “spike” detail. Somewhere in that set, is a curved piece with the end bit broken off.
@cedarvalleyrail8419
4 жыл бұрын
It's extremely ironic that one of the cars is a penn central car, very fitting given the quality of the set
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
haha so I've heard, lol! ;D
@williamnichols467
4 жыл бұрын
PC stands for Penn Central, a railroad formed between the merging of some railroads, most notably the New York Central and Pennsylvania Railroads
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info William, appreciate it! :D
@ReadingAreaRailfan
4 жыл бұрын
The PC one is an ore car. Basically a hopper they use to carry iron ore and stuff like that. PC is the reporting mark for Penn Central, the merger of Pennsylvania railroad, New York Central Railroad, and New Haven Railroad.
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for the info, appreciate it! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@bobdoyle683
3 жыл бұрын
PC, probably our Penn Central Railway. Was incorporated with several other railroads in the CONRAIL era. PC was a merger between the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central. The two major east coast railroads! Bob oyle
@SamsTrains
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Bob - yeah that's right, others have confirmed this too! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@williamsquires3070
Жыл бұрын
The Penn Central hopper is the only model of a U.S. prototype; the engine and the two gondola wagons are British/European, while the remaining one is - maybe - a brake van? Also this type of hopper was usually run in unit trains hauling iron ore in the Great Lakes area. The dead giveaway (other than the Penn Central livery) is the roller bearing trucks. This should be relatively easy to convert to Kadee couplers; then Sam can run it with his other HO Scale stuff. Probably the only decent bit of kit in this entire set. Put a magnet on the track. If it’s really steel, the magnet should stick. If it doesn’t, then it’s probably Nickel-Silver.
@SodorTrain1225
4 жыл бұрын
Your loco may need a repaint, some new lamps, and a good clean. Brunswick green on the boiler with a white smokebox and funnel would look lovely.
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think so, lol! ;D
@felixfelix9062
4 жыл бұрын
Putting quotes around detail was the most subtle, yet devastating insult ever. Nice vid!
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
haha thank you, glad you noticed that, lol! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@ironhorsehistorian9871
4 жыл бұрын
The PC car is a shoddy Penn Central hopper car. It was no where near the old west era. It was a merger between 3 eastern railroads (New Haven, New York Central, Pennsylvania Railroad). The railroad went bankrupt in 1970 and would be replaced by Conrail in the mid 1970s. If you want theirs more info on KZitem and Wikipedia. cheers and nice review! -Michael Cianciolo Chairmen of the East Coast and Southern Railroad
@Poliss95
4 жыл бұрын
Hi from the owner of the Buffalo Pass, Scalplock and Defiance Railroad. :-)
@ironhorsehistorian9871
4 жыл бұрын
BPS&D cool
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info Michael - so I hear - what were they thinking?!? Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@halfofacouch2397
4 жыл бұрын
In the U.S, a basic Bachmann HO Scale starter set with a transformer, circle of track, a locomotive, and some rolling stock costs around $80-$90. Those sets are better quality, and they have more detail than Mehano train sets, but they don’t include as nearly as much things, such as buildings or mats.
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's right - when mehano get the quality right, they're a fantastic option! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@dirtydave2691
3 жыл бұрын
"Western Train" Like a description from an East German school book.
@SamsTrains
3 жыл бұрын
haha I know!! xD
@journeythroughtherails5294
4 жыл бұрын
Another great video to make my day brighter! Cheers, -Nick
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Nick, that's lovely to hear! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@jagc1969
4 жыл бұрын
Mehano's engines and rolling stock were always known to be of less-than-average quality. I have bought a couple of their Mikados as a starting point to transform them into RENFE engines. I had to rewire them up, replace the motors, etc. Believe it or not in one of the boxes you can read "THE WORLD'S FINEST RUNNING H0 SCALE MODELS". These are balls... However they managed to build one of the finest H0 scale model I have seen : RENFE's 333.300 "PRIMA". It's a model with a weight of almost 1 Kg, very powerful and very well detailed. It's a beast with an incredible sound. But it was Mehano's Swan's sung. A bit later after creating this engine the firm ceased to make railway models. Nowadays they build plastic items like buckets, tables, chairs, etc.
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I guess that's fair to say, but I've never come across one as bad as this before, haha! Thanks for sharing! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@jagc1969
4 жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains In fact it is a weird set even if it is planned for children. Where on Earth do you find these things? :)
@billyp.9603
3 жыл бұрын
17:11 I think the number belongs to a real coal wagon as bachmann produced a small penn central coal wagon with a close number 501273
@Narrowgaugefilms
4 жыл бұрын
The hopper is actually an ore car, They operated in the iron ore country around the Great Lakes. They made for very interesting trains: often solid consists of over a hundred of these and a caboose. Motive power was often very large articulated steam engines.
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for the info on the hopper! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@trainguy111
4 жыл бұрын
I think the PC on the coal wagon stands for Penn Central. The Penn Central was a railroad that was formed when the Pennsylvania, the New York Central, and the New Haven and Hartford railroads merged. Eventually, the Penn Central became part of Conrail.
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
It does indeed, thanks for the info! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@engineerskalinera
3 жыл бұрын
The only good thing about this set, and the loco in particular, is that they come a dime a dozen used, making them perfect for customisation practice. This was my 2nd ever trainset, and out of the box it didn't run well at all. The engine had some problems and the track is poor quality. But ots dirt cheap, and once you get it running, it will run for years.
@hoelkers4823
4 жыл бұрын
that "PC" is a logo from the Penn Central. a railroad from the U.S.A. that ran from 1969 till about 1977. it was formed by the merger of the Pennsylvania Railroad (PRR), New York Central Railroad (NYC) and the New York, New Haven and Hartford Railroad (NH). The New York, New Haven and Hartford.
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Duly noted H, thanks a lot for the info - not at all appropriate for an old west set then! xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@Jimyjames73
4 жыл бұрын
Hiya - Don't worry about the church spire (not that you are any way!!!) being 'cock-eyed' b/c the Church in Chesterfield - With the tower at the top the spiral - the inside frame when they built it back-in-the-day - the frame was built with wooden beams - & over the many decades the wooden beams slowly warped & now the Spiral now leans to 1 side a bit
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
haha yeah that's very true actually, lol! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@RoadsterRyan23
4 жыл бұрын
Purchased the "I'm not a train Enthusiast... ...I'm a model train enthusiast" T-Shirt in blue Sam! Arrived today and I love it! Cannot wait to wear it.
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for your kind support mate, really hope you enjoy the shirt!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@nilo70
4 жыл бұрын
Great train for kids ! Not so great for older folks. Thanks Sam , you never disappoint! CHEERS FROM CALIFORNIA !
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Olin, as long as the kids don't mind the horrific quality of course ;D Thanks a lot mate! :D Cheers, Sam :)
@Criskena
2 жыл бұрын
The PC wagon is most likely a wagon of the Pennsylvania Railway because it has the Penn Central logo on it
@thefountainpendesk
4 жыл бұрын
You can keep steel track and weather it up to create disused sidings or fake loads for trains etc. if thats something your in to
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
That's true actually - there is some value to the tracks then! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@jimbell6367
4 жыл бұрын
Nice just put the Sam’s trains mug and blue T-shirt on my Xmas list Cheers Alfie
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Jim, very kind of you! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@SodorTrain1225
4 жыл бұрын
Your loco may need a repaint, some new lamps, and a good clean. Brunswick green on the boiler with a white smokebox and funnel.
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Nice ideas actually - that'd be tempting to try! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@trr94001
4 жыл бұрын
The black ore car is decorated in the livery of the Penn Central, a short lived railroad created from the merger of the New York Central and the Pennsylvania R.R. In the late ‘60s. It was in turn merged into Conrail a few years later. I’d say it’s incredibly Not Western except the loco and other wagons all appear German.
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
haha yeah, that's what everyone has been saying - wonder if it was just unused stock they were trying to shift?! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@triskellian
4 жыл бұрын
Ah!Ha!Ha! Where to begin! You have a stumpy/dusty little loco(with a goofy face no less!), weird little cars for rolling stock, Mc Donald's kid's meal cardstock accessories and, in contrast, a decent train controller. I'll admit that there's a soft spot in my heart for the enormous elephant pat, fabulous! 😊
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
haha I know - it's pretty glorious isn't it?! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@agriben7591
4 жыл бұрын
2:52 looks like a game of snakes and lasers Sam 😂😂 if you land on the train your out 😂😂 Thx Ben ;)
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
haha!! I love that idea actually, lol! ;D
@DudeTheNinja
4 жыл бұрын
I must say the loco's design is kinda cute. I am aware (from other comments) that it isn't even American, but it still looks cute, kinda like a 1960s-1970s LEGO locomotive. If it had NEM couplings and was sold separately (for like twenty quid), I'd probably consider buying it just to practice painting (weathering) or just for the novelty. Also I bet the controller and transformer are worth more than the loco itself.
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah! The design isn't too atrocious for the money - the way it's been put together is the biggest issue :( Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@liamcalder1385
4 жыл бұрын
"Looks like we have another massive elephant pat so I will look forward to that" you just love your elephant dung don"t you Sam HAHA. I thought maybe el cheapo could be in the background. He was probably busy. When i first saw the loco it was different in not a good way. Thanks Liam :)
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
haha thanks Liam - yeah it didn't disappoint did it?? lol! xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@nikerailfanningttm9046
2 жыл бұрын
"steam locos are dirty in real life" fireless steam locomotives that we have here in the United States: "AM I A JOKE TO YOU?"
@markphillips5368
3 жыл бұрын
Although the quality is not up to the standard you would expect from higher priced models, it certainly gives a child lots of play value, and once the loco dies, they are left with usable track, and controller, giving them the basis for building a better setup with more track pieces, and better quality locos & rolling stock, hopefully getting them more involved in the hobby..
@SamsTrains
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah you're absolutely right - you definitely do get a lot for your money here! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@nameless5413
4 жыл бұрын
return of the elephant turd mountain!. Agreed that this is great project model, if someone loves to tinker with their sets this is good addition / starting point i reckon. in 90s we've had similar train model set idea (due to its popularity it was TT scale), tho i think people making the one here were overqualified - all the buildings were part of the cardboard package which you had to than cut out yourself (no pre-cuts or anything, just cut here lines), all snuggled into the plastic thub-like thing that made up mountain in the set. I do not remember price tho i think it was fairly affordable given that it had decent amount of stuff and train + vagon + trafo + controller + some cardboard buildings, possibly even mat i cant remember.
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
haha yes indeed! Ahh so this was better for the buildings then, suppose it's quite impressive that they were pre-cut! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@lieffian
4 жыл бұрын
Well to be fair, the reason why the loco looks dirty is in irl, locos would be traveling through the deserts of the old west always blowing and mucking up the cars and locos
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
haha I don't think that's the reason! xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@Chaostheory1971
4 жыл бұрын
For its target market, young children, then this a pretty good trainset, not sure if it was worth the £60 that you paid fir it Sam, but the £70 odd you later quoted is a tad too expensive. Good honest review as always, Sam. Just a thought, perhaps you could devise a new rating system for trainsets?
@skuula
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I can easily imaging tons of family fun with this. Especially with some straight track and a siding added.
@bentullett6068
4 жыл бұрын
It's got great play value for a child as there are lots of items to build to add to the layout.
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
I don't know about that - the quality would be a concern giving this to a kid - you want something well made and robust for a kid.... this doesn't qualify! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@tombore9516
4 жыл бұрын
''PC'' is Penn Central which was an American class I railroad that operated from 1968 until 1976 Regards, Tom
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
It does indeed, thanks for the info! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@TimmyC1113
4 жыл бұрын
the hopper car is Penn Central, not even western.... but the only thing out of all the cars and locomotive that would be worth keeping
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Yep - bit of a cop-out wasn't it? Yeah, maybe the loco could be improved! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@ExAnimoPortugal
4 жыл бұрын
This is not good in any way, but, had I got this on Christmas as a kid, I would be the happiest kid in town.
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
haha glad to hear that, lol! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@Loweko1170
4 жыл бұрын
All the mockery aside, the track mats and cardboard buildings do make this an excellent set for a small child.
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah you're right, besides the terrible quality of course! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@boblatzer
4 жыл бұрын
I think a young child of 8 or so, would love it and have a lot of fun with it. I had cheap toys as a child and still had fun using my imagination to entertain myself. Let’s be fair. It says right on the box for 8 and up. Why invest a ton of money if the child isn’t going to get into serious model railroading. Just saying.
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm sure that's true - but the quality would be a concern - you want something well made and robust for a kid.... this doesn't qualify! ;D The price is right though, that's true! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@freebrickproductions
4 жыл бұрын
The Penn Central ore hopper seems to be a mold copy of an American model, and I wouldn't be surprised if it and the caboose have NMRA-spec coupler mounts. Also amusing the steam locomotive came with ditchlights, don't believe many (if any) steam locomotives here in the US would've had them, as ditchlights didn't become standard until the 90s, IIRC. Also, is it just me, or is there a 12 molded right next to the cab windows?
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think you're right, others have said the same - it certainly doesn't have NEM couplings are anything though! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@DC4260Productions
4 жыл бұрын
15:38 - That pseudo-face is nowhere near as terrifying as the actual face on the back of the ERTL Godred and Culdee. Those two are die-cast toys of two Railway Series characters.
@SamsTrains
4 жыл бұрын
haha really?! I've got to see those!! xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@TKS60163
3 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: the Black Hopper car is a knock off of the Bachmann design of that same type. Just a little bit more info on just how cheap this train set is.
@SamsTrains
3 жыл бұрын
Ooh interesting - do they really?! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
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