I simply don't want to mess with my endocrine/hormone system. Too many unknowns.
@01993jbdbejifn
10 ай бұрын
Valid, same for me. If it wasnt for that i would be blasting tomorrow😂
@johnyoutube4073
10 ай бұрын
Lifting natty is like putting money in the bank slowly and steadily because the muscle you gain is easy to maintain (and regain if you lose some of it). Lifting while roiding is like getting a 30-year mortage with a floating interest rate . If a setback renders you insolvent, you lose everything.
@01993jbdbejifn
10 ай бұрын
@@johnyoutube4073sure buddy, you seem like a knowledgeable person
@scottmitchell1974
10 ай бұрын
@johnyoutube4073 Nice analogy!! With permission, I'll use that.
@mariomolnar3184
10 ай бұрын
Just blast some Tren brotha
@nishanth.f6262
10 ай бұрын
“But you will gain lots of size” - “No excuses just improve”….what a godly transition 😂
@megapet777
9 ай бұрын
Yeah that is really interesting transition ^^
@josephthefirst1
9 ай бұрын
Same thoughts
@kevinwicklund9593
10 ай бұрын
Got shown that Ben Affleck PSA video in high school health class and that shit made everyone laugh so hard
@Brainwave20241
10 ай бұрын
at this point I think Zack wants to cycle lol
@scottessery100
10 ай бұрын
i always assumed zack was on ... hes STRONG
@megapet777
9 ай бұрын
ngl it would be interesting to see him doing a little cycle. He is already strong. I wonder what his PRs would be then?
@spikeman1444
10 ай бұрын
If I'm not making millions off of my athletic performance or physique, it's not worth it. I don't want to wreck my body/hormonal system to be the strongest/most muscular guy in the local town.
@pauliusgecas472
9 ай бұрын
imagine TRT for life.. what a burden that has to be.
@gbaker1a775
9 ай бұрын
@@pauliusgecas472it’s really not a big deal. Two quick tiny shots a week and routine bloodwork and donating blood every four months. That’s about it.
@racebannon7209
8 ай бұрын
Exactly
@Psychedelic430
7 ай бұрын
@@pauliusgecas472 at least we are going to have a lot more data in a few decades since 16 y.o kids are taking tren nowdays.
@steviejrr
7 ай бұрын
but it can legit improve your life and health, why does everyone think that PED's automatically make you get every side effect and you dying at 30. Nah bro, those are rare cases of abuse just like anything else that's abused in life.
@ChudBogdanoff
9 ай бұрын
Doing steroids on your own without a doctor/somebody that knows this shit is like trying to repair a state-of-the-art swiss clock on your own with tools from your dad’s garage
@JamesSmithPT
10 ай бұрын
yeah the boys!
@user-ii7xc1ry3x
10 ай бұрын
There's no Wada, but there's Derek. You should plan your revenge on Chris for him exposing you to Dr Mike.
@vladbobe26
10 ай бұрын
Congrats to Derek once again for his openness regarding his own experience and to you Zack for having discussions like this
@stephenr85
10 ай бұрын
Zack's "asking for a friend" face when he asks "what were those forums, specifically?" 😂
@Jackthompson01
9 ай бұрын
Nah he said “what European people? You said Foreign?” ??😂😂
@imhatchmantoo
9 ай бұрын
Its weird to see Derek grow up. Like Im gonna watch this guy go through every stage of exogenous hormone use and document it. That is so so valuable.
@pbfishing5153
10 ай бұрын
I honestly think the fitness industry is in a sad state. It is essentially run but a bunch of “influencers” on social media that are geared out of their minds. Bodybuilding, CrossFit, weightlifting, hYbRiD there’s just so much obvious ped use. And no one admits it. It’s pathetic.
@drn13355
9 ай бұрын
Agree man. Like go to a gym. It is.a bunch go people filming themselves. Like hardly working out..jsut texting then filming themselves when they do lift. I built my home gym up and I am done with gyms. No one respects them anymore. They are supposed to be places to work hard. I almost viewed them like a dojo.
@ericbourgoin2792
9 ай бұрын
at least you recognize it right? I mean that's half the battle.
@kugelschreiber5678
8 ай бұрын
I miss when the fitness space was actually about “fitness” and “health”. Now, it’s all about blasting PEDs, lying about it, and convincing sheep to buy your useless products and nonsensical workout programs. Actual fitness and health has taken a holiday in this space.
@taylorjamesmovies
8 ай бұрын
There’s major financial incentives to do this stuff otherwise the risk outweighs the reward. I think social media is the real issue here. People wanna see big freaks of nature not regular people, so brands pay these types of people, after that it’s just money see monkey do.
@ancientdolphintofualmondma2863
9 ай бұрын
They parodied that Ben Affleck scene in South Park. The episode where Jimmy and Cartman compete in the Special Olympics.
@akashdeb9823
10 ай бұрын
Zack: FOREIGN bros? Like European? 😂😂
@gilmargomez8653
10 ай бұрын
Ikr, he made me double check it too.
@ericswires8534
10 ай бұрын
Now I know where the South Park scene where Jimmy beats his girlfriend and mom because he’s on steroids comes from. 😂😂
@jennys1983
10 ай бұрын
Right?! That was my first thought!
@LuLzezRoflcopter
10 ай бұрын
Looking around at the number of body builders on PEDs who have died young is enough reason to avoid them for most people
@elder_millennial_Fboy
10 ай бұрын
wouldn't that just tell you not to bodybuild? crossfitters are on gear and they're not dying young, weightlifters arent dying young, olympians arent dying young, everyone in the tour de france isn't dying young. it's just bodybuilders
@valkarcy
10 ай бұрын
It's the mass and heavy drug use to support that mass. Blood pressure, lipid, LDL, and so many factors play into it.
@steffanofumo
10 ай бұрын
It’s not just the gear is everiyhing combined GH, insulin, diuretics, thermogenic’s and testosterone derivatives and now even experimental peptides.
@MrOpticBlade
10 ай бұрын
@@elder_millennial_FboyPlenty of ex soviet lifters and bulgarians for example died young. Crossfit is still a young sport so it’s hard to tell. But dosage and compounds does play a big part. There are other factors at play as well such as mental health and body image issues that come with bodybuilding which makes people push things too far more easily imo
@coryl9292
10 ай бұрын
What about the tens of thousands who don’t die?
@radalexander7160
10 ай бұрын
There's no winning either way. If The Rock came out and said he uses gear, and just listed all of the negatives, then people would be like, "Well why tf do you even use them then?" If he then said, "Well they help a bit but the negatives far outweigh the positives" then people wouldn't believe him (because that would make him a moron) or he'd be accused of downplaying how much he's benefited from using gear. And if he does the inverse, and says how much they've helped him while talking about the negatives somewhat, then he's glorifying steroids. I think it just comes down to people's inherent belief systems. None of the staunchly natty guys are against steroids on a scientific or risk assessment level. Hell, a lot of them don't know shit about them or believe a lot of myths. They just have an inherent dislike of steroids and view them as cheating (which is fair). The kid who's asking about steroids has already thought about and most likely decided to use them. They just want to hear someone else's approval.
@BobbyDirt
10 ай бұрын
That Affleck skit was golden 😂 he straight up kimbo sliced his girlfriend 😆
@PipCharlieBoy
8 ай бұрын
Girlfriend: "WHAT IS GOING ON WITH YOU??" Boyfriend: *PUNCHES GIRLFRIEND IN FACE* 😂 It's not the answer she expected but it's the answer she deserved! ...😂
@PurpleHeart-gh6sv
8 ай бұрын
I took ligandrol for a month and didn’t do a PCT, and it was the worst depression and anxiety I have ever experienced in 43 years of life, and having a history of depression and anxiety, I already had an understanding of how it feels to go through an episode. It’s two months later and I’m just starting to feel back to my normal self. Huge huge huge mistake
@BryceJohnson98
10 ай бұрын
I armwrestle and some of those guys are on steroids because most armwrestling tournaments are untested. They took steroids and got strong for a little while. Some of them got terrible acne scars from it, some of them lost their hair. One of them said his vision got messed up from it. They eventually had to hop off the steroids because they were having health problems. Now their test levels are low and they gained 20 or 30lbs of bodyfat and lost a lot of muscle. This stuff isn't worth it, it will jam you up.
@Lightitupp1
9 ай бұрын
Some of the side effects you listed could be due to age, hair for example. Vision I've only really heard the SARM s4 causing this acutely and the PCT ancillary Clomid. I don't think anyone reasonable is going to debate that irresponsible PED use isn't/can be very damaging, there are compounds, doses, ancillaries and common sense ways where you can mitigate a lot of the side effects and harm. Unfortunately a lot of people do not do proper research.
@brandonross8200
9 ай бұрын
@@Lightitupp1my doctor when I went on TRT tried clomiphene first and it gave my eye floaters. I just tell people if they gonna start TRT or got low T just go straight for Test Cyp it's most effective least side effects as long as you taking reasonable doses.
@gur262
9 ай бұрын
@@Lightitupp1high blood pressure can mess with vision
@JustChill-zd4ib
9 ай бұрын
yeah yeah its bad obviously. People will still do it because its a mixed bag and positives for them outweigh the negatives obviously.
@baronmeduse
9 ай бұрын
@@JustChill-zd4ib The positives are short-lived, the negatives are often not. I agree though that dumb people aren't known for making judicious decisions.
@DrAJ_LatinAmerica
10 ай бұрын
Those who take the time to think "risk / reward", cost of monthly testing,...don't actually have issues. Those who don't "think" will fill the jails and hospitals.
@gif24gt60
9 ай бұрын
Any reason why the dangers of the birth control pills are never discussed? Guess, it must be the money involved.
@dparad22
10 ай бұрын
why does nobody talk about nootropics and their side effects? that's the next frontier
@HighQualityLeftover
10 ай бұрын
Dangerous drug use should never be advertised. And we do that constantly. Immagine that: randomly putting hormones in your body messes it up forever. Mindblowing i know.
@martinvulu1848
10 ай бұрын
That's why it SHOULDN'T be RANDOM.
@muellernikolai8630
10 ай бұрын
the human body is actually very very good at maintaining or reestablishing homeostasis. There is no reason why any effect has to be "forever".
@JustChill-zd4ib
9 ай бұрын
It just is. Does not matter what you think. You should not think world revolves around what you think more like. More realistic approach.
@fmls8266
10 ай бұрын
chat with Zack Telander about the use and problems with PEDs like Anabolic Steroids. Get your gear here: 😃
@sethmonroe9603
9 ай бұрын
lol Derrick described my first cycle to a T with the dbol front load into test
@TAL20013
10 ай бұрын
I regret taking all of the crazy drugs i did back when i was a teenager, but i don't regret the times i had whilst on them, which were some of the best times of my life. Everything in moderation, maybe not PEDs because they are a cycle, it would be like me taking cocaine everyday for a month, its not good for you at all, even drinking daily isn't good for you. Now i probably have 2-3bottles of beer per week, sometimes nothing. I would honestly rather wake up feeling great and take myself off to the gym then get wasted on a Friday night and suffer the next day.
@LuGu1
9 ай бұрын
You suffer in the morning from drinking 2 or 3 beers?
@MrFINcredible
9 ай бұрын
@@LuGu1 You can't read. That's not what he said
@seantv1510
9 ай бұрын
@@LuGu1Slow tf down. You are not the quick witted guy that you think you are. Reading comprehension... maybe actually put in some effort 🙄😅
@JustChill-zd4ib
9 ай бұрын
@@MrFINcredible Who cares what he said
@JerryHeughins-os2os
8 ай бұрын
At least he's honest
@5hydroxyT
10 ай бұрын
steroids aren't really the issue - its the rampant narcissism and body dysmorphia that our culture is producing and rewarding. Its worse for (straight) guys cuz they don't want to talk about it...this video really demonstrated that. I don't watch Derek, but seems like a guy who may have struggled with it.
@hiigara2085
10 ай бұрын
man that sucks. 40mg of C and nothing happened for derek. he needed a mirror not a naked lady
@MeridiasTaco
10 ай бұрын
I’m longtime watcher, I would appreciate if you posted the podcast on non-video format type sites full length before the clip drip feed. I understand the clip game and all that on YT, but I think that’s a different audience from who watches you audio-only. Derek works with PKA guys for Lock’n’Load and they seem to treat the podcast uploads versus YT viewers separately. They upload their full podcast audio only on Spotify and Apple first, I believe, and then upload the YT release. They even go so far as to release their Patreon content audio only on those platforms and the video content is behind a paywall. I don’t think you would lose much by uploading the content on those platforms as quickly as possible, as far as monetization or growth, is my sentiment.
@zacktelander
10 ай бұрын
I’ve stopped doing my podcast. Getting guests was damn near impossible. So Derek was in town and I wanted to get a conversation with him up for my YT audience.
@MeridiasTaco
10 ай бұрын
@@zacktelander Dang, thanks for the heads up; I think another one of my favorite training podcasts ended out of the blue a year or two ago for what I’m assuming is the exact same reason so I don’t think it’s an uncommon problem.
@nishanth.f6262
10 ай бұрын
@@zacktelanderdamn, sad to hear but you gotta do what works for you. Good luck with all the other stuff bro 👌🏾
@JoshuaKevinPerry
10 ай бұрын
Stronger by science does a podcast you may enjoy, it's on YT too. They are both lifetime naturals, one a powerlifter one a bodybuilder, they write MASS, which derives much of the YT content on other channels.
@piercebrosnantheactor
10 ай бұрын
MDMA/LSD/Mushrooms are all fantastic compounds, and they dont always give one "whisky dik" its all in the dose, and please test your substances before consuming. its 2023 and you can't take that risk anymore. be safe, always remember you can always take more. have fun
@Mikaeel84
10 ай бұрын
Comment section full of guys who want to do gear and so they stalk Derek online obsessing over a safe way to take steroids but since they can't convince them selves to do it so they try to comfort themselves by commenting self righteous bull crap.
@datacipher
8 ай бұрын
Ironic! lol… affleck seemed pretty skinny and natural until his middle age when he geared up for Batman etc.
@jerrycool3034
9 ай бұрын
My best powerlifting total was off a test deca dbol cycle. Dick worked perfectly fine
@LatimusChadimus
10 ай бұрын
You still doing your podcast?? Haven't been notified in some time now. Loved the layout
@0zone_X-u9x
9 ай бұрын
the 2 biggest side effects that apparently rarely people talk about are the extremely fast aging and the fact that your body deflates extremely fast once you stop taking them... sure you can keep a decent size but its no where near the size you had previously
@0zone_X-u9x
9 ай бұрын
@@SevenCostanza i said you can keep a decent size, never the original roided state that is impossible due to the lack of testosterone to maintain it
@PistolPete3322
9 ай бұрын
A bad side effect nobody talks about but is common is rising psa. My PSA went up when on trt. 100 mgs per week. 2 years in and My psa started rising. So I quit. I’m 62 with low test levels and just deal with it now. My urologist says it’s a pretty common side effect that the clinics don’t talk about.
@sammasic5849
8 ай бұрын
@@PistolPete3322 if you don't mind me asking , what's PSA?
@Micolashcage1
8 ай бұрын
Testosterone doesnt "age: you, it masculinizes your face due to androgens. If you want to have a babyface Testosterone will get rid of it. So whats your trade off? you want to feel bad but have a babyface? or feel great and look more masculinized and "adult" tbh people have way too much of an obsession with their looks. to an unhealthy degree
@PistolPete3322
8 ай бұрын
@@sammasic5849 prostate specific antigen. As your prostate grows it gives off more psa. It either grows due to age, streroid use or cancer. They use the test as a proxy to detect prostate cancer. I had an mri and it didn’t find any cancer so to continue trt my urologist wanted to do a biopsy. I didn’t do it knowing a rise in psa is common on trt. 3 months after quitting trt my psa went back to normal. My doctor hasn’t replied to anything since. Glad I didn’t get the biopsy.
@CarlosVerdinOfficial
9 ай бұрын
Both my children’s mothers had severe postpartum and both have ongoing personality and/or hormonal imbalances many many years later. Once I obtained the best hormonal stability through the carnivore diet and never have insulin’s spikes which never make me hangry, etc. all minor fluctuations gone, I’ve realized there is a lot we can do to control our hormones with diet. So if you start injecting yourself with chemicals that mess with your hormones, and you’re still lacking the discipline and control to control your diet… you are trying to take the easy fast shortcut to something you shouldn’t.. your going to regret it one way or another. I wouldn’t even do micro dose of TRT until you have depleted all options with your diet including the Carnivore diet for a year+ super strict, then Saladino version with some carbs if your working out and training weekly hardcore, and then and only then… if your testosterone still isn’t normal, and your 50+ years old, maybe … but I doubt you tried hard enough.. stop being lazy and taking shortcuts. You are giving yourself an excuse if you are geared out.
@Jimbo-fv4ek
9 ай бұрын
All of that stuff doesn't work when you have a tumor on your pituitary gland. Some people actually need TRT to survive.
@CarlosVerdinOfficial
9 ай бұрын
@@Jimbo-fv4ek excuse me and the 1%-10% of people who need that that way. I meant everyone else on earth using it
@cherylannlittle2901
8 ай бұрын
Female with such said rumor... found it n went carn n now 65/30/5keto foe yrs.... what a convo
@Guus115
9 ай бұрын
You should at least do mdma once Derek. Its pure bliss
@nicholastartaglia4276
10 ай бұрын
I will say TRT companies, like the one Derek promotes, definitely have a mostly negative effect, even if his information on his channel is extremely helpful. I have seen people on reddit who are average or slightly lower than average get instantly dosed 200mg of "TRT", no matter the age (I've seen a 16 year old with regular natty levels get prescribed lol), activity level, diet/body comp, etc. There's a reason why these companies are getting cracked down on by the FDA. Telemed during the pandemic has made this practice even worse. I'm also pretty sure these companies will sell anything they have on stock in any amount, as long as you're willing to pay. Obviously TRT does help a lot of people but the amount of people who actually need it vs. the people who just want to take shortcuts or seek some sort of fleeting vanity is such a big difference.
@totemic7244
10 ай бұрын
Very sceptical of seemingly causeless "low testosterone" diagnoses with no related pathologies done beyond total t, free t & shbg. It doesn't just fall off a cliff once you hit the age of 35, you've just had the lifestyle of a Wall-E character for the last 15 years and lack the humility to slowly tackle and reverse the problem through your own actions. Here in Australia it is much more strictly regulated and not prescribed very freely. I've been seeing an endocrinologist for appx. 1.5 years regarding a DSD (most likely MAIS) and am yet to be put onto any form of hormone treatment. Unfortunately my desire to be 230lbs lean doesn't speed up their process of testing, diagnosing and treating/managing.
@perfor5376
10 ай бұрын
Thats the whole point of dereks company, hes the one promoting not giving cookie cutter cycles, its not just something hes promoting, hes the owner
@gt3shredz510
10 ай бұрын
Agreed, dereks channel also gives people this glorified view of trt, which convinced my friend that trt is way better than natty (its not) to make gains; looks like an average guy in the gym and now has to pin test for life at a very young age
@nicholastartaglia4276
10 ай бұрын
@@perfor5376lol no it’s still a clinic, makes money the way other clinics do. Just because you like Derek doesn’t mean it’s any different. I have a friend who told me his experience and it’s not any different from the clinics I’ve read about online. Do you think Derek is the one talking to you or doing your appointments? Why are you talking about “cookie cutter cycles?” What does this even mean in the context of this conversation lol
@perfor5376
10 ай бұрын
@@nicholastartaglia4276 Its not that i like him, which i dont know him, im going off of his marketing for his clinic, hes always boasting about having qualified doctors, and cookie cutter is talking about the 200mg for trt no matter who you are, ive not had an experience in his clinic so, im going off the advertising
@ViiraLPateL
10 ай бұрын
Ben Affleck Movie Clip From A Body To Die For (1994)
@markodragovic011
10 ай бұрын
""Kick start it with a Dbol!"" EPIC
@gif24gt60
9 ай бұрын
The guys a millionaire. No regrets
@booleann___
10 ай бұрын
where can i find the full episode?
@SH-lb1nu
10 ай бұрын
Drinking is a right of passage in the certian context, great social lubricant, pick your battles. But being mid 30s looking back, the 'lifestyle' does arrest your development. Sure can say had fun but would have preffered a more mature me getting into my career and family goals sooner. Could have been married a little younger, kids a little younger, and prob got my business going sooner and been much better off for it if I wasn't distracted by being 'social' and going out a lot.
@fmls8266
10 ай бұрын
And if you had that you might instead be probably thinking you regret not having fun while you were young. Probably you wouldn't even be the person you are now, who knows.
@soy1700
10 ай бұрын
@@fmls8266 grass is greener effect
@fantanaxxx
10 ай бұрын
@@fmls8266 IF we had proper role models...
@unholywarrior9007
10 ай бұрын
I tried Mico needling my scalp and nothing .
@Sean-fz1zg
10 ай бұрын
Older you knows that, younger you didn't, it's called growth and you had to go through it to know that
@rafmatt1607
10 ай бұрын
Derek rarely posts now. His business took off and now he's seldom seen
@__-wm9lu
10 ай бұрын
Good for him though his content isn’t that great. And when he does post they’re impactful videos.
@gt3shredz510
10 ай бұрын
Its very annoying when his vids keep popping up in my feed, even when im not subbed, and its just his content from years ago
@jackmehoff2363
10 ай бұрын
I saw the ben affleck movie, and it was so hilarious. I laughed at it in school while watching it. That movie was fucking wild
@bowdezaufa2609
10 ай бұрын
I only did a low dose test cycle....now I want to do it again and again and again.
@hgibbons69
10 ай бұрын
A sub-optimised, lazy-ish casual guy experiencing testosterone levels of an alpha gladiator.... wouldn't suprise me. I'm sure it would be the same with MDMA or heroine for most, if they have never experienced such highs. I smoked weed for 10 years, and when you elevate your 'normal' for extended periods, anything less becomes sub-regular and feels lacking. Balance, my dude xxxx
@kingcatx2
9 ай бұрын
I wanted to do it. But I noticed that many get puffy face and that’s not attractive at all.
@AwhdaniyUshn
9 ай бұрын
@@kingcatx2and where are u going to buy legit pharma graded steroids? Or are you gonna do "lab research" on the underground steroids u would buy from drug dealers that act like being a legit company?
@willemvanriet7160
7 ай бұрын
I guess I’m lucky. I so much as look at a pair of barbells and I gain muscle. Feel for the poor guys who feel forced to take these unnatural shortcuts. It is possible to do it naturally. U just need some patience
@tangerineg9038
9 ай бұрын
2 types of guys, the ones that take stuff for their penis to grow, and the ones that take stuff for their muscles. Both come down to insecurities as professional body builders usually get big before going on sauce. Guys need to grow balls and go out there naked and start building authentic social relationshipss
@mariohostios
9 ай бұрын
Pandora's box is open. Might as well include instructions.
@skywind2520
8 ай бұрын
What about secretagogues like MK 677 Cardarine?
@josephparkes6412
10 ай бұрын
My thing is about doing PEDs is "why?", youre plenty capable of gettting big and strong enough naturally. What is being more than that going to bring you? If it can change your career (pro athlete, influencer) then sure. But if youre just a normal person who wants to br jacked, the natural way is fine.
@tougeattack123
10 ай бұрын
the natural way is borring and has its limits. i trained for 10 years natural and the jump on gear was 100% worth it the thing is for some people "normal person" is borring
@megapet777
9 ай бұрын
@@tougeattack123 well thats lot better than the kids who start doing gear as they sign up for gym membership. At least you got 10 years of experience under your belt first.
@nicowins
9 ай бұрын
Well i do not agree. I Got very Big as natural after 7 years of natural bodybuilding, But you need to bring in peds if you want to be a good competitor. Why not do peds? Its safe if you know what to do. A day natty is a day wasted
@megapet777
9 ай бұрын
@@nicowins Well that took a quick turn xD
@josephparkes6412
9 ай бұрын
@@nicowins you got very big. That's great. If you want to compete than that's a different issue but there's a lot juicers who do not
@TeddyCWT
9 ай бұрын
I dunno what it is but derek seems off like I dunno if he’s looking older, gained weight or what but it seems diff
@johndover3594
8 ай бұрын
A comfortable try dose🤣🤣way to downplay that in a young person
@h-t.p.24
8 ай бұрын
Derek reacted to the move 2 years ago! - kzitem.info/news/bejne/p4ZquK2grYxziG0&ab_channel=MorePlatesMoreDates
@Runner-Boy
10 ай бұрын
Whys his lips so red ngl whats up with that ?
@anaussie213
10 ай бұрын
He's got dry skin thanks to roacutaine.
@Runner-Boy
10 ай бұрын
@@anaussie213 okay thanks
@Mikaeel84
10 ай бұрын
Never got ED from gear or test deca dbol.
@jessefay4984
8 ай бұрын
Most men can't have children on TRT, so everyone has to come off at some point.
@funkydoggie6487
10 ай бұрын
Are you guys dating?
@StraitjacketFitness
10 ай бұрын
Bet.
@And-Not-Do-The-Things-I-say
10 ай бұрын
No he is just experimenting with lipstick
@notcosmo2420
10 ай бұрын
Does anyone know what coat derek is wearing i want one
@noosphericaltarzan
10 ай бұрын
You got me at hair loss. Definitely do not want to look like a bald bodybuilder with a head that overgrew from the HGH.
@gif24gt60
9 ай бұрын
Less shampoo. Cheaper.
@MacA60230
10 ай бұрын
Yo anyone knows what's that shirt/jacket Derek is wearing? Looks dope
@rafmatt1607
10 ай бұрын
You can find it at hipster central Canada
@ejc5105
10 ай бұрын
Looks like the Outerknown Cloud Weave shirt
@MacA60230
10 ай бұрын
@@ejc5105 looks close thanks, you put me in right direction but turns out it's just a youngla flannel jacket
@seanpgallagher22ify
10 ай бұрын
DARE was a crash course in irony.
@ricky7396
9 ай бұрын
Is it just me or has Derek's mouth changed?
@karlbischoff77
8 ай бұрын
Damn Derek’s actually a lot smaller than I thought
@justinjones5281
9 ай бұрын
More plates more dates. Ahahahahah less mates. ROFL.
@memorycard1000
10 ай бұрын
I am natty for life. Not even tempted in the slightest to take anything. But if I did, it's still illegal. No? I don't get where everyone on youtube gets all their stuff from. I don't have a clue where to get stuff. Well, I know you can order online nowadays but dudes... IT'S FEEDING VERY BAD PEOPLE!!! Just don't do it for the love of God. Stay natty. 🤨
@gabepeterson4420
8 ай бұрын
Breath of fresh air!! I hope all the young guys will listen to this. I made great gains not knowing what I was doing and I was on 200mg Mexican test. I went from 165 to 200 pounds. Years later I won my first light heavyweight and open overall title using 100mg oral winstrol a day for the past four weeks (it was all I could get at the time). Moral of the story? You don’t need as much as you think.
@FerintoshFarmsPhotography
9 ай бұрын
I used to say never! But now I get how a person could miss hitting constant PRs. It's addictive
@harvey_weenstain8857
9 ай бұрын
I had never seen the Ben Affleck video. I want to do steroids now. Thank you
@filabila
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for gettin Derek on YT again
@emcl2011
10 ай бұрын
but you will gain lots of size
@plops993
10 ай бұрын
Yea if you have a serious hormonal imbalance, especially low estrogen, it won’t matter how much viagra/Cialis you take, you will not be physically able to get aroused
@johnbuck9701
9 ай бұрын
Im 41 and can burn out 41pushups. 😮
@tsal4379
9 ай бұрын
"A body to die for".. that movie got a lot of people thinking about steroids... taking them that is lol
@russellmuscle7434
9 ай бұрын
I got on at 35 after my best friend died, i just didn't care about health anymore
@genin69
10 ай бұрын
My short stint in substance abuse led me to loose all my endurance and I didnt gain and muscle. Almost 10yrs later still struggling to get endurance back up to speed
@stephenr85
10 ай бұрын
Dude, that effect would have worn off pretty quickly. You're not struggling to get endurance back because you did a cycle 10yrs ago...not a chance.
@wolfspritzer9253
10 ай бұрын
Sounds like complete bullshit bud
@harleyzeth
10 ай бұрын
@@stephenr85Probably not talking about steroids
@nicks3701
10 ай бұрын
Stop being lazy, go for a run, and sling some weights.
@stephenr85
10 ай бұрын
@@harleyzethmaybe, but weird to say "I didn't gain muscle" if it wasn't steroids, or to not give some indication of the substance category, and we can assume they weren't an elite athlete working in fringe performance territory because an elite would not say they lost "all" their endurance. I can't think of anything that would have this long-term effect, from alcohol to meth to opiates, if it's a short or even moderately long stint. There would have to be some pretty serious organ damage done in an unusually short time, and 10yrs clean is (way) more than enough. The human body is amazingly resilient.
@sheldenrocks
10 ай бұрын
Yes that was a movie that ben aflek did, to promote the idea that steroid were bad! Actually good film.
@anthonykelly2055
10 ай бұрын
Derek: but you’ll gain lots of size…. Cuts to no excuses just improve Guess I’m off to run that cycle
@bradpnw1897
9 ай бұрын
Derek's lips so red, sexy beast ❤
@kevinvancalenbergh5452
8 ай бұрын
Super fucking jacked sure Derek
@bogus69
8 ай бұрын
12:30 It’s the genie in a bottle concept, you get your wish granted but there’s always a catch
@kjellman96
10 ай бұрын
I feel like you're looking younger for some reason
@stephenr85
10 ай бұрын
Fresh shave and he's leaned out lately
@jennys1983
10 ай бұрын
It could be because he seems happier, maybe? I know nothing of Zack’s life beyond what he posts, but he’s mentioned that he’s enjoying his music a lot more lately, which is probably very fulfilling. I’ve often noticed that being happy makes people look younger. My apologies to Zack if I’m talking out of line.
@matthewsimonds5272
10 ай бұрын
Um… I’d like to know where you bought that button up sweater.
@udontkno4215
9 ай бұрын
Thats why u do test npp turinabol. Str8 lean masss not michelean man
@chesterstone5739
9 ай бұрын
I took ldg 4033 didn’t do a good job on my pct I don’t get horny at all anymore
@brandonbath6097
9 ай бұрын
Lol all the bad things he went through I learned about in DARE
@proddreamatnight
8 ай бұрын
3:00 made me cry laugh
@Oldtimenattylife
10 ай бұрын
This was hilarious
@JoshuaKevinPerry
10 ай бұрын
No, he doesn't. It made him wealthy beyond his imagination
@SapperRJMorgan
10 ай бұрын
My kid was interested. I told my 16 yr old to get to 25 before you even consider it. Workout hard for 10 years and max out your hard work and genetics and if you still want to do it then have at it. So far he’s listened and understands the side effects etc. The only way forward is education.
@kylerodriguez6817
9 ай бұрын
Derek actually did react to this already. Like 2 years ago. He must’ve forgot be did a video about it lol understandable tho 3:23
@jdizzle6324
10 ай бұрын
Zak will always look like a candlestick. 🏆🏆🏆🕯️🕯️🕯️🏆🏆🏆 It's all good bro! You still have your nuts!!!
@jdizzle6324
9 ай бұрын
@daveh71 I'm no candlestick...why do you think I'm hating? He's got his balls vs a steroid user having no balls. Zak would out lift me in all the lifts. He's good at what he does. I can't call him a candlestick? Lol. So sensitive!
@OConnorful
6 ай бұрын
"foreignbros" lol
@houtexflex
10 ай бұрын
Can anybody explain how 40mg Cialis is doable w/o a massive headache? Asking for a friend
@egordobryak3057
10 ай бұрын
Why do you need 40mg?
@FormlessJKD17
9 ай бұрын
Go natty not wacky
@harleymbaldwin
10 ай бұрын
As (probably) one of the OLDEST (if not THE oldest) subscriber of this channel (going back to Zack's A & M years) ) I feel that I must push back on the overall demeanor of this entire conversation. Seeing 2 young guys (in 30's) banter about all the drugs they've done and then acting as IF they won't be affected over their Lifespan is simply a denial of REALITY! As someone from a Medical background I am shocked there is no mention made of the long term effects on the liver, pancreas and other internal organs. While I do hope / pray that Derek will not experience any effects once he's into his 50's and above, I can tell you that as a forever "nattie" lifter now aged 61 (and still competing) I have a total T level of 639, so there IS a way for older men to maintain (and possibly increase) their T (free and total T) WITHOUT any drugs whatsoever. The fact that you guys are just laughing it up about all the different drugs dilutes the seriousness of the abusive actions in many strength sports today. When you are young and "fearless" everything seems wonderful but JUST wait a few years (decades) and THEN you will see how all that past actions have affected both Lifespan and Healthspan. When Derek was on with Peter Attia it was a totally different vibe - and only time will tell how Derek's (and other users) health will be affected.
@5hydroxyT
10 ай бұрын
I agree...as soon as you start seeing guys in their late 40s/early 50s depressed, overweight with ED, on BP and cholesterol pills and heart big enough for safari mammal, you realize its a short-term lifestyle with the real price-tag coming years down the road...
@harleymbaldwin
10 ай бұрын
@@5hydroxyT Exactly right! I've already BEEN through my 40's and 50's now, and while I have definitely experienced my "ups and downs" in Life, I HAVE NEVER let myself stop moving / lifting / running / swimming for an extended period. While I did (and still do!) want to get better / faster / stronger to compete as an athlete, I would never have even considered putting something into my body (even for short term gain) that I would not know how it MAY affect my Life in the future! As it is, nearly every day we hear / read about different chemicals / agents / additives in our drinking water, food and even our cookware (such as these "forvever" chemicals that appear to be in the bloodstreams of 85% of Americans now!) I cannot understand WHY a young man would inject something into his body that he has NO definite idea as to what it may do to him down the road! Making light of this (as in this conversation) is almost akin to encouragement for the younger generation. Sorry to be so extreme, but to me this subject is SERIOUS business and should not be made "light of" - even comically!
@HkFinn83
10 ай бұрын
You guys know testosterone was synthesised in 1935, right? You’re acting like Derrick invented steroids
@5hydroxyT
10 ай бұрын
@@HkFinn83 1931 actually...by a Romanian first.
@chrism4008
9 ай бұрын
Thats not at all what they said, you clearly didn't listen to the video before wiring this asinine comment
@Dan-lq6dg
10 ай бұрын
Ask him about the Federal Reserve and his opinion on if rate hikes will end??
@LatimusChadimus
10 ай бұрын
How about the presidents that fought against Central Banking because they knew what it would do and then Christmas Eve 1913 when no one's paying attention the Federal Reserve becomes a thing and in 1914 income tax is written into the Constitution as law. It doesn't matter what anybody's opinion is, it doesn't change facts that we've been robbed into slavery
@LatimusChadimus
10 ай бұрын
Those rate hikes and everything else they do are just smoke and mirrors, like QE being a fancy phrase for legalized counterfeiting but they don't nearly do it as bad as the banks
@Megahertz_12
9 ай бұрын
The 19 Nors are mostly to blame. Tren is more of a mind fawk then acid! Nandrolone is a depressant to me. The rest of the oils aren’t too bad mentally except high doses of testosterone. For orals Halotestin and superdrol induce tren like rage.
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