The worst thing you can do to a Les Paul is coat the strings and fretboard with marshmallow cream. It will really slow you down because it’s really sticky.
@birchh1
4 жыл бұрын
Bwaaa...haaaa!!!! OH man...
@gaboxd4407
3 жыл бұрын
Gotta try this on my bigsby 1959 sg
@jed02
3 жыл бұрын
can confirm
@chinaski6979
3 жыл бұрын
Be gone Satan
@jeffreym4273
3 жыл бұрын
LOL!!
@glennwhitlock1272
4 жыл бұрын
I beg to differ. The absolute worst thing to do with a LP is let me play it.
@markknight6445
4 жыл бұрын
I feel that pain too🤣🙉🥺
@danieldean9989
4 жыл бұрын
I finally had to sell mine for that same reason. 😂
@therover4141
4 жыл бұрын
Damn fellas play it even more until its not the worst thing. I guess if your gonna give up just get a Tele they sound like shit no matter who is playing. Except page he is always the exception. When asked why Hendrix didn't play a tele. He said they got 2 sounds good and bad.
@j_freed
4 жыл бұрын
The Rover - Hendrix used a Tele on some solos in the studio. Purple Haze is one. See, no whammy right?
@virgilrw
4 жыл бұрын
#STOP IT! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@annunacky4463
4 жыл бұрын
The worst is leaving it in an unlocked car. They tend to evaporate...
@everettlethem6747
3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, man made evaporation is a big problem these days.
@annunacky4463
3 жыл бұрын
@@everettlethem6747 Now thats funny.
@russell_szabados
3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@oskarileikos
3 жыл бұрын
Even worse is to leave it in a locked car when it's hot outside. You wouldn't want to do that with little children or dogs either
@everettlethem6747
3 жыл бұрын
@@oskarileikos well that got dark.
@RastaSaiyaman
4 жыл бұрын
The worst thing you can do to a Les Paul? - Fit it with a Floyd Rose.
@salatieljyrustumanan4929
4 жыл бұрын
came here from sammy g?
@patrickrosington1174
4 жыл бұрын
LMAO now this man speaks truth. Whos cares if someone top wraps or not. I top wrap all my Gibsons. Les pauls, sg and my es 335td. The best thing to do to a LP is a bigsby
@hotrodjones74
4 жыл бұрын
@@patrickrosington1174 No, the best thing to do is play your Les Paul everyday ;)
@patrickrosington1174
4 жыл бұрын
@@hotrodjones74 that is true!
@nosleep637
4 жыл бұрын
Single cuts and floyd rose do not mix well
@michaelhudson745
4 жыл бұрын
I don't think I've ever heard anyone so effortlessly melodic in their playing. Fantastic as ever, Chris.
@Glicksman1
4 жыл бұрын
Amen to that.
@chipgaasche4933
4 жыл бұрын
Keep listening, mike.
@briandillon8041
4 жыл бұрын
Michael Hudson except maybe George Harrison and Phil Keggi. But Chris is top notch!!
@SuperJiggawhat
4 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more.
@foogazer9458
3 жыл бұрын
Enter Johnny marr
@jacobpullen6949
3 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Page’s tele is probably the guitar that has sold the single most les pauls in history.
@patricksommer3971
3 жыл бұрын
?
@jacobpullen6949
3 жыл бұрын
@@patricksommer3971 He used his telecaster on most of the early zep albums, notably on the stairway solo and all of Zep 1. He only used his Les Paul live, but people heard the recordings, and went out and bought Les Pauls because they thought he used his Les Paul on the recordings
@patricksommer3971
3 жыл бұрын
@@jacobpullen6949 he used les paul in tons of recordings. Sure there was also a lot of tele, but from like 71 on most is LP
@jacobpullen6949
3 жыл бұрын
@@patricksommer3971 Yeah but all the early most famous stuff is tele
@patricksommer3971
3 жыл бұрын
@@jacobpullen6949 ok, you've probably got a point
@donaldryder5534
4 жыл бұрын
“Who knows...who cares” excellent point
@richsackett3423
4 жыл бұрын
Just people who care about playing music.
@LennyJohnson5
4 жыл бұрын
@@richsackett3423 I don't think true musicians give it that much thought to be honest; Chris summed it up with "who knows, who cares"... life's too short. I guess it never kept Hendrix, Lennon or Peter Green awake at night. It's something you think about when you've got too much time on your hands. Maybe players stress over it when they're learning...
@richsackett3423
4 жыл бұрын
@@LennyJohnson5 Funny, no other areas of art or expertise think ignorance concerning their tools is desirable, or indeed preferable. I've seen none of the three players you mention playing just any old shit instruments. Guess they must have cared. It's something I think about because I build guitars.
@juanfichtl2011
4 жыл бұрын
Wankers will argue forever. Players will shut up n play yer guitars.
@richsackett3423
4 жыл бұрын
@@juanfichtl2011 Idiots on the internet will pontificate and bloviate, ultimately failing to have any interesting, useful or original ideas.
@nitrogen_777
3 жыл бұрын
The worst thing one could do to a Les Paul is to equip it with a Floyd Rose and EMG active pickups :-D
@Max_94
3 жыл бұрын
James Hetfield and many legends won't agree with you guitar hero ;)
@sid35gb
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah take my money 💰😎😂
@jirdesteva
4 жыл бұрын
I find that everything that is done with feeling or by feel is a very personal thing. Guitars, musical instruments, bicycles, hot rods, motorcycles, and LIVING YOUR LIFE. If it feels good to YOU If it sounds good to YOU If that makes YOU play more Then that is what YOU should do. YOU! Great players do a bunch of different things but they are NOT you. What they do may not FEEL good to you try it then make it your own or not. At the end of it all WE all find OUR own way. Do YOU!
@mobydick3895
Жыл бұрын
No. You can test for which way gives you maximum sustain, and Gibson should have done that already and issued a statement about it (but I doubt they ever have)
@dwaynemcallister7231
7 ай бұрын
I remember in a interview from the mid 1970's with Bob Glidden the drag racer, he said "This how I do it but don't do it because I say so, learn to think for yourself"
@DavidDantePhoenix
4 жыл бұрын
I remember the first time I top wrapped... I was so enthused to have found a better sound and feel out of my guitar, and at no cost whatsoever. Glorious.
@greenfly1264
3 жыл бұрын
Same I did it yesterday on my SG 61. Lovely metallic harmonics also I went from 9s to 11s a combination of the two things is indeed Glorious.
@cechichan
2 жыл бұрын
@@greenfly1264 so it does make thicker strings more playable my friend ? id love to form 9s to 10s on my lp
@paulrogers6037
4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't beat a 1959 LP with a violin bow night after night, but, hey, Page....
@PaulMcCaffreyfmac
4 жыл бұрын
A Les Paul will always win that fight.
@PaulMcCaffreyfmac
3 жыл бұрын
@Spike Elwood I saw Led Zep 3 times in 1969/70. The volin bow appeared every time and it was ALL Les Paul.
@jonahhoward5109
3 жыл бұрын
@@PaulMcCaffreyfmac I watched the Dazed And Confused live video from The Song Remains The Same, it definitely won that fight. Within two minutes the strings on the bow were hanging off everywhere. Those things aren't cheap.
@theboofin
3 жыл бұрын
@Spike Elwood In the Yardbirds maybe...
@Alex-ve3it
3 жыл бұрын
@Spike Elwood he only used telecaster with Led Zeppelin from September ‘68 to May ‘69
@Jason-wo5rr
4 жыл бұрын
I’ve never really heard too much of a sonic difference between sting through or top wrapping but where I’ve noticed a difference is in its playability. Top wrapping for me feels better in string tension making it feel more comfortable to play and by that changes the sound for me. Anyways, that where I come from
@GerardWaysHun20
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree. To my ear, acoustically, strings seem to ring slightly more with a bit more open sound, topwrapped - but plugged in I don't think there's any difference. The most important thing is the slinkier feel which makes it easier to play and in turn I play better with more control. My opinion.
@benallmark9671
2 жыл бұрын
Top wrapping meaning ? I ask because I recently got a 2019 SG jr but after reading all kinds of comments ordered in the 2020 that has this lightning bar bridge. I’m I making a mistake ?
@giulioluzzardi7632
2 жыл бұрын
@@benallmark9671 Personally speakung Ben, the type of metal used to make the bridge actually makes the biggest difference . Go for alumunium only because I have noticed Gibson using heavy-weight metal for bridges.
@macauley70
2 жыл бұрын
and if dont have more sustain and is only playability, why you dont rise the tailpiece for looking less tension with the same angle of top wraping?
@silvanorocha3
Жыл бұрын
@@macauley70 i did it
@dpepsi68
4 жыл бұрын
Being that I’m a touch older - here’s what happened at Gibson - the person they hired to do the illustrations in the catalog simply looked at the previous year and because it was a wraparound tailpiece, they simply assumed that that’s how you would do it for the next year - it was actually 100% a mistake and was corrected the year after - as soon as they put out the next catalog - so the whole thing about wraparound being affirmed in the Gibson catalog is simply the mistake of an illustrator
@RandyFricke
4 жыл бұрын
Interesting.
@charleshoernemann8661
4 жыл бұрын
Wow! You live and learn!
@therover4141
4 жыл бұрын
Also before the tune o matic bridge the stop tails were always wraparound so when old school wrap arounders strung up the new tune o mattic the naturally wrapped it over thinking its how it should be done. I top wrap because it puts direct downward force on the bridge and no chance of the string touching the bridge itself before it breaks over the actual saddle. Strings feel somewhat slinkier to me and it looks cooler. You can slam the stop tail as well no matter how high or low the bridge is. Put old string balls on your strings before you go through the stoptail if your gonna top wrap though.
@keithadams812
4 жыл бұрын
That's an awesome piece of information.... I have more info about Les Paul him self and the SG..... Les Paul loved and designed the SG but Gibson made the mistake of releasing it weeks before his divorce to mary ford... It was cheaper for him to disavow all knowledge and collaboration than it was to pay Mary Ford royalties on the design of the sg... Mary didn't settle for less at all she took him for all he was worth
@therover4141
4 жыл бұрын
@@keithadams812 also he wanted a neck through design like the firebird. The original Sg was the double cut special in late 58 59. Called the SG. Its why the call the SG the sg after 63
@michaelbrooks5178
4 жыл бұрын
That intro jam was sensational! Again.
@brandonrook9062
3 жыл бұрын
Indeed...luscious
@alexcrouse
3 жыл бұрын
I think the effect is to lengthen the string under tension. That means the strings bend easier, because you have a string willing to stretch the same percentage, which is a larger distance since the string is "longer".
@dragonpundit.6443
2 жыл бұрын
The scale is the exact same. It's the angle.
@philberry1981
2 жыл бұрын
@@dragonpundit.6443 But the total string length is longer by the width of tail piece - so say another 12mm. When a string is bent it will stretch across its entire length from end to end. The angle will reduce friction and downward pressure on the bridge which will help with bends and prevent long term damage to the bridge and reduce string breakages.
@dragonpundit.6443
2 жыл бұрын
@@philberry1981 That assumes the strings actually move across the bridge and nut under normal string bending. I believe there is more contact and less angle so it effects something, mostly fewer breaks but the idea your strings are always moving across the connection points after leaving the tuners or tailpiece, is suspect.
@philberry1981
2 жыл бұрын
@@dragonpundit.6443 It’s not a lot of movement granted but that’s why they make nut juice etc to help stabilise tuning. Try plucking the string between the nut and tuner peg then bend the string and do the same - the pitch goes up - hence that section of string is now tighter and will have therefore moved fractionally.
@markhill9275
7 ай бұрын
@@philberry1981Nut juice is for girls!😂😂😂
@joecalandrella3330
4 жыл бұрын
Chris, your explanation is as artful and articulate as your playing. I’m a Page, Beck, Gibbons, Green (you didn’t cite him, but RIP) fan, and had never heard of top-wrapping. Thanks.
@alejandromoro
4 жыл бұрын
you might have been in lockdown your whole life my friend...
@yetanotherbassdude
4 жыл бұрын
Gonna give a shoutout to Johan Segborn's channel as it was his video that made me decide to top-wrap my Epi LP. His test videos are always done with a real sense of scientific rigour, with all possible variables removed to really just look at the differences in sound from what he's testing. His top-wrap video had the same R8 through the same amp (a dimed Marshall) mic'd the same way and completely left untouched for both tests, and with a new set of strings for both tests too. There's still clearly a difference in sound. It's not that I think one was better than the other, but I could definitely hear a difference and I preferred the top-wrap sound so that's what I've done ever since!
@mattgilbert7347
4 жыл бұрын
Johan is based. Coolest head in the guitar YT community.
@cechichan
2 жыл бұрын
Would it make the difference between 010 and 09 ;-? id love to put 010s but they are too stiff for me, would top wrapping make that difference in playability so i can play 010 ?
@reileyb
3 жыл бұрын
The scientific breakdown of how top rapping actually increases string tension just goes to show how your brain can really trick you into believing something that isn't correct, even the most skilled guitarists. Our brains are really amazing at tricking us with things like this.
@jonsnow9428
4 жыл бұрын
Chris, you deserve more recognition than you get for turning out such excellent content each week. Thanks, and keep it up 👏
@PaulMcCaffreyfmac
4 жыл бұрын
It makes more sense to me that resonance would be transferred to the body from the bridge not the tailpiece. I go through and raise the tailpiece just enough to prevent the strings leaning on the back of the bridge (nowhere near as high as in your picture) and hastening its ultimate sagging. Preventing bridge collapse seems the only good reason to do it.
@Atttuner
4 жыл бұрын
This is why I watch Chris. Nuclear proliferation, climate change, human rights......top wrapping. Beautiful
@ChrisBuckGuitar
4 жыл бұрын
Haha! All the important issues covered...
@plaga9_ioc954
4 жыл бұрын
Yea but why does he have Reagan wobble-head on the shelf..?
@therover4141
4 жыл бұрын
Well as long as he isnt pushing climate change is man's fault then im ok cause Our sun has way more to do with it than the UNs and liberal lefts bullshit agenda lies. I agree there is climate change I've seen the reports and who and how all the "facts " That get pushed are far from facts manipulated data manipulated surveys to say 97% of scientist agree is bullshit. Canada's climate guru woman is a lying fraud that uses her own false data and research as proof. It was proven wrong she even got in hot water over it yet still using it as if its valid. All lies. The truth mainly the sun. The berkland currents the ocean itself. Its normal earth cycles. Will it be good for us meh maybe not maybe nothing much at all. Depends on our sun our weaking magnetic fields. So stop buying MSM climate bullshit they are trying to make money.
@therover4141
4 жыл бұрын
@@plaga9_ioc954 cause he was a great president like Trump is now. Why would you allow that to bother you. Get your leftist mental disorder under control.
@jamespollock11
4 жыл бұрын
Wow you're stupid.
@Gichanasa
3 жыл бұрын
7:30 The fact that top-wrapped strings produce more tension when bent to the same position also means that you don't NEED to bend the strings as much in order to produce the desired higher pitches, hence making it easier overall to play. All makes sense. A great video and playing, please keep it up!
@flakey414
3 жыл бұрын
No. In the video mentioned, Dylan compares how far you have to bend a string to reach a full step up. The top wrapped strings needed to be bent further with greater force to reach the same pitch. That were the findings of his video, i'd love for someone to repeat the test to see if it can be corroborated as the testing methodology could probably be improved. Certainly a fascinating question though, makes you wonder if there is also a difference between string through and top loader Tele's and stuff.
@andrewgarcia3136
2 жыл бұрын
@@flakey414 yes. this is true. i top wrapped my les paul again and it's actually a bitch to play and i regret it. turns out it adds a lot more tension than i remembered.
@davidfellows6250
Жыл бұрын
yes that also applies to heavier strings.
@piggybarn7621
3 жыл бұрын
That intro jam was amazing can't stop listening to it
@Dartheomus
4 жыл бұрын
Nice breakdown. Either configuration does not appear to affect sustain considerably. I could see where tension could feel a bit lower. However, the one thing that people ALWAYS neglect to mention is that if your tension is lower when you bend, it just means that you have to bend FURTHER. Don't believe me? Try Silk & Steel strings on an acoustic. Those things are so slinky that you can bend the strings right off the fret board, but you'll only get about a half step bend when you do. What does this mean? Well as Joe B. put it, you get a little bit of buffering when you dig in. You won't bend your strings out of pitch too far if you hit them hard enough to deflect them. Also, you should see less sensitivity to detuning when it comes to the pressure that you apply to hold down the sting. On the other hand, your vibratos will require larger movements, which could be difficult if you like very fast vibratos. Finally, your bends will have to bend farther to hit the same note.
@macauley70
2 жыл бұрын
if you want less tension and bend better rise the tailpiece. problem solved
@garymcaleer6112
3 жыл бұрын
Great post, Chris. A clear distinction. Top Wrapping has both cleaner tone and balanced EQ. I'll do the change on my LP.
@kenimiller3896
4 жыл бұрын
When I read the title and then saw Jimmy Page in the thumbnail I thought this would be about sanding the back of the neck to make it thinner!
@brown22sugar25
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I thought
@MrKimMarkus
4 жыл бұрын
Don't think he sanded it. Believe Joe Walsh had it sanded before selling it to Page
@Noseheros
4 жыл бұрын
Jimmy had it done by some company in cali on the first US tour
@jltrem
4 жыл бұрын
@@MrKimMarkus You are correct, good father. It was done here. www.laysguitar.com/
@therover4141
4 жыл бұрын
@@Noseheros no Walsh did
@wbertie2604
3 жыл бұрын
More contact and more resonance would mean LESS sustain. Energy goes into the guitar, and some of it and very slightly heats up the wood. If you look at Les Paul's original experiments, he got the most sustain with least resonance, as you'd expect.
@TorToroPorco
4 жыл бұрын
I thought for sure Chris was going to say “put in a pair of single coils”.
@Glicksman1
4 жыл бұрын
Um, that would be an improvement if they were good ones.
@Daverotherham
4 жыл бұрын
The first four years did have single coils, and they didn’t put humbuckers on the budget models when they did get them.
@Glicksman1
4 жыл бұрын
@@Daverotherham Of course they did. I have a '54 Goldtop with the sweetest P-90s in it. I should have been more specific, I was referring to "Bursts".
@big_bicep_bill7594
4 жыл бұрын
P90s?
@Glicksman1
4 жыл бұрын
@@big_bicep_bill7594After having some success with the 1935 single-coil "bar" pickup and later the modified single-coil "Charlie Christian" pickup, in 1946, an improved and much simpler, smaller and lighter design designated P-90 became Gibson's flagsihp pickup. Like the bar and Charlie Chritian pickups, they, too, are single-coil and were installed in virtually every Gibson electric guitar until 1957 when they were joined by the dual-coil PAF (patent appied for) "Humbucker" (which sucessfuly "bucked the hum" of a single-coil) pickup which was the "preferred" (but not by me) deluxe pickup and was installed in all of the higher-end Gibson electrics. The original Juniors, Specials and ES-330s retained P-90s, but all others now had Humbuckers.
@joeyfarley9916
4 жыл бұрын
I wondered if you were gona get to the extra ball end, to me that is the only way to do it. I switched back to just going trough because I didn't want to mark up my stop bar. after just a year it was marked pretty badly. I couldn't feel a real difference anyway so I just went back to through the stop bar. I think even if it is a mental thing, it still helps because thats all any of it really is. My feelings on tone and guitars and music is always evolving. I can look back even a year ago and see mistakes and misconceptions I had about everything. That is what I love about music, it never gets old and every time you think you know what's what, something comes along and smacks you right in the face and shows you that there is still plenty to learn at any level. I will never stop being a student of music, I love it. Great video and awesome playing like always.
@barrymiller2272
4 жыл бұрын
That kid is SIIIIKKKK! What a talent...his technique, flawless
@switchbacksentence1244
4 жыл бұрын
I've always preferred the feel of top wrapping 🤷🏻♂️
@MichealBT
4 жыл бұрын
“Who knows, who cares” 🙌 sounds great man
@LarryMar
2 ай бұрын
I heard a big difference immediately! Top wrap is definitely more sustain plus more chime. I'm wrapping mine! Thanks!
@AmpAHolic-wn6mr
4 жыл бұрын
I used to think I absolutely needed to screw down my stop tail until I started to experiment. My findings were, each guitar is different. As of now none of my LP’s are screwed down. I hate the tight feel. I top wrap and bring the tail up until I find the feel and tone that works best for me and the guitar. I prefer a shallow angle between the bridge and tail. Feels like playing a wrap around bridge. Like a jr. Coupling is important, but you have plenty of it from the string tension alone. Experiment, you may find something you like in between much better.
@elliothewitt9156
4 жыл бұрын
If top wrapping makes me play like that intro, count me in! 😆
@delbertstringbreaker7686
4 жыл бұрын
Amazing to get the view out of that window - I had always imagined you were in a cottage deep in the Welsh countryside gazing out at the mountains. Magic playing as always! Pob hywl!
@ChrisBuckGuitar
4 жыл бұрын
Haha. That was in France a few months back. My everyday view isn't quite as...French as that unfortunately!
@chippelindberg1776
3 жыл бұрын
Wow, I never thought there would be such a difference in the clarity to the tone. Top wrapped wins in my book.
@LennyJohnson5
4 жыл бұрын
Superb episode of Friday Fretworks Chris. Eloquent and well researched.
@insearchofmelody6319
3 жыл бұрын
independently of this video inwant to say: you have an amazing style of playing. You are now one of five YT-Guitarists i admire the most. Thanks!
@RobertoMuricy
4 жыл бұрын
I loved the version of Bistro Fada at the end of the video. Nice sound.
@mr.yellowstrat3352
3 жыл бұрын
For a KZitemr, this guy is beyond the standard. Imo, one of the best on the freakin' planet
@ChrisBuckGuitar
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I’ve always found the KZitemr tag a little strange although by definition, as someone who uploads to KZitem once a week, I guess I’m a KZitemr 🤷🏻♂️ At the same time, I’ve been gigging relentlessly since I was about 15 and represent various companies (Fender/Yamaha/Line 6 etc) internationally. I just think of KZitem as another platform to reach people with your music 🙂
@mr.yellowstrat3352
3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisBuckGuitar Wow dude I totally didn't expect you to respond at all, let alone so quickly. I'm play relentlessly as well. Gigging constantly but I've been wanting to spread my wings into other areas to capitalize on my passion. Just saving for a camera 🤘😂
@rileyioacura
4 жыл бұрын
Dude your playing is just amazing!! Your feel is divine!!
@tomrodriguez9052
Жыл бұрын
As a guitar builder, for 38 years, that has heard a lot of arguments on the subject. Lots of people think that having the headstock angle at 17 degrees is important for tone because of the downward pressure it creates at the nut, yet don't want that at the bridge. Downward pressure at the bridge is extremely beneficial for tone in acoustic guitars. The downward pressure at the nut only causes tuning instability and broken headstocks, from the steep angle and the short grain it produces. I've made some Les Paul 's, with a 10 degree headstock angle and a wraparound bridge, like the 50's Jrs. and gold tops, only compensated for intonation. This is truly the best way to top wrap, cut out the ABR middleman, it worked for early Jeff Beck and his ox blood LP. I'm not even close to the guitar player you are, why I make guitars for a living, but I have a good ear for tone and this setup is incredible and never breaks strings. The tone is the best I've heard for LP's and I've had hundreds of 50's and 60's era Gibsons come trough my shop. I've wrapped the strings both ways for customers, with tune o matics and don't really hear a tone advantage to either, also just don't really like tune o mates bridges.
@coreyevans835
4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many of those early Les Paul players top wrapped simply because that's how the guitar was setup when they bought it and never thought about stringing up differently.
@64north20west
3 жыл бұрын
Before the internet, there was a lotta staying up all night testing these theories with different string sets, spring tensions on floating bridges, etc. Thanks to channels like these where the info can come to light in a faster and more credible level with actual footage of what the greats do with their guitars.
@Dan.Solo.Chicago
3 жыл бұрын
I tried it out of curiosity. There was definitely an increase in resonance throughout the guitar, just like a one piece wraparound bridge. Bends were a little easier too.
@dmytromorozov2593
4 жыл бұрын
Epic ending. Brilliant conclusion and melody right after.
@ODwan
4 жыл бұрын
In the early nineties I somewhere read an interview with a guitar tech, who said that players like Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck and Billy Gibbons originally did topwrap as a way to reduce chance of string breakage at the bridge. So maybe nothing about tone or playability, just about reliability...
@enricrodriguez-llorens304
2 жыл бұрын
I'm truly AMAZED. I've never thought that this could make such a great impact, the tone is SO much better with top loaded strigs, at least for me. Thanks for the insight!!
@davidep6481
Жыл бұрын
I am surprised that Slash never used the top wrapping and his tailpiece is kept really hight to avoid an extreme angle.But still amazing sustain and tone.And he uses 11 48 half step down
@RockNRollBrewers
Жыл бұрын
The geniuses of adam day😂
@tontonbourre6676
3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Django reinhardt ending. I didn't expect a rock player do that. Thumbs up!
@markknight6445
4 жыл бұрын
I thought this might involve a Floyd Rose. 😅
@yayayaokoksure
2 жыл бұрын
I was taught this trick in the late '90's to help prevent string breaks.
@pocketsdoesstuff3880
4 жыл бұрын
Another KZitemr, Robert Baker, did a video on this where he discovered that when he top wrapped his les paul the strings actually had more tension, which corroborates Dylan Talks Tone's results. Baker tried to figure out why and through speaking with a friend of his he may have discovered that it simply doesn't work the same on every les paul. I believe it was the angle at which the neck joins the body that determines whether or not it increases or decreases string tension when you top wrap.
@stuartmoon6133
2 жыл бұрын
The reason for wrapping the strings is in fact to get rid of the unwanted high tension behind the bridge.those bridges have a tenancy to collapse the arc due to high string tension leading to intonation problems.it also reduces the brake angle and slicks out the fret board making playing a more satifying experience,but saving the bridge was the initial reason.if anybody ever bothered to look under the tail piece once its screwed down,it actually doesn't touch the body at all.it is also arched to follow the radius.
@eikbike
3 жыл бұрын
Longer strings require more tension to bring up to tune. Strats, with 25-1/2" scale feel different than Les Pauls with 24-3/4" scale length because of the difference in string tension. Short Scale bass guitars is were you really notice the lighter tension of 30" or 28-1/2" scale length compared to standard 34" length.
@j_freed
3 жыл бұрын
That is so. But here's the truth: the longer the length behind the nut or the bridge, the less tension there seems to be on the fretboard. So if you get a Fender Strat vibrato block that is longer than usual and holds a greater length of string, the instrument tuned at pitch has a less tight feel than if the length of the strings in the block were very short.
@mr.howard1
3 жыл бұрын
Some really nice playing in this video!
@leeevans7814
4 жыл бұрын
Loved this one buddy. I personally top wrap both my LP’s. Why? Its basically because i use heavy 11/52’ strings and top wrapping definitely makes it easier for me to play and bend these chunkier strings. It 100% works for me. Plus it looks cooler and more rocknroll ha ha
@whichgodofthousandsmeansno5306
3 жыл бұрын
I am new to the Gibson world being I acquired a 69 SG that needs work that I am doing. I never would have thought to even try top wrapping. Now I got something to try.
@NolanDerosia
4 жыл бұрын
That bit at 6:00 ish was pretty clever. I always knew the length of the string behind the nut/bridge made a difference, but never really thought to prove it the way you have.
@Dodger2879
2 жыл бұрын
I saw it, I did it, as it just made sense to me, having more surface area of the string to transmit sound to the solid wood body, by a chunk of metal that is bolted to that solid wood body. Pretty simple thinking, but it appears I'm in good company with my thoughts. The Tune-O-Matic bridge is an OK design, but like many designs, is a compromise of requirements. Attempting to improve or change a designs end result is not a crime. Just as a different opinion is not a crime.....but sadly, many just will not let their ego allow for a different opinion. Chris presents thoughts nicely without bias. Now that IS a fact!
@charleshoernemann8661
4 жыл бұрын
"The BEST thing you can do to a Les Paul?" Is to play 'Bistro Fada' like Chris Buck 😊
@PIPA1302
3 жыл бұрын
i have mine top wrapped too, and it could be true that it fells less resistent,easier to bend with elevens , even tens...cheers take care these awful days....
@DunsfoldDave
4 жыл бұрын
I m lucky to have 2 Les Paul’s, and from the factory the 2016 58’ True Historic was not top wrapped, but the Collectors Choice No8 “The Beast” was. So I continue stringing both exactly as Gibson intended and with the same gauge strings on both I cannot tell any discernible difference in string tension.
@zamhlatren1053
2 жыл бұрын
Damn, that solo at the beginning was awesome.
@scottshaw1043
4 жыл бұрын
Love the Django-esque outro!!
@roughcutguitars
4 жыл бұрын
"Bistro Fada" by Stephane Wrembel
@frettingitforward
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris for helping me understand my new “ Standard” !
@stevegardiner8473
4 жыл бұрын
I'd played Les Paul's for around twenty years before I tried top wrapping for the first time this year (first week of 2020), and I can say it definitely does make a difference. I'd say it makes the guitar feel a little slinkier, and to my ears, gives it a slightly fuller tone. I was a little concerned that the stings could pop out of the saddles when I'm going for those Gilmouresque bends but, so far so good. Haven't done it on all my LP's yet but I think I probably will. Haven't tried the double ball end thing yet.
@hubbsllc
4 жыл бұрын
Before I replaced my Dean's arrangement with a Babicz Full Contact bridge, I was top-wrapping with the string run through a loose ball end and it was just fine that way. Now with the Babicz I run with the tailpiece elevated to produce a modest breakover angle at the saddles; I don't see any reason to just crush the bridge into the top of the guitar (the point of the Babicz is that it rests directly on the body).
@therover4141
4 жыл бұрын
@@hubbsllc yes I always cut the ball ends off an old set and run my strings through the ball end then the stopbar to top wrap. It keeps your string end backed off the break over the tail peice cause if you dont that break over the back can cut into or break the string where its wound around the ball and over itself. That's w weak place the bend the string so use a loose ball on the string to back that ballend up away from the breakover of the tail peice. Hope that makes sense.
@hubbsllc
4 жыл бұрын
@@stevegardiner8473 I wasn't talking about the Gibson Tune-O-Matic; I was talking about the Babicz bridge on my guitar.
@mettimanom
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, awesome vid.... bought a Yamaha SL500 that had been top-wrapped by the previous owner and had wondered about the pros and cons. Love your work. 👍
@dwaynemcallister7231
7 ай бұрын
I ordered a SL500 from Japan the other day, I don't know what to expect, how do like yours?
@philfyphil
4 жыл бұрын
The fact there is more tension on strings when top wrapped makes sense to me because you would then need less bend to increase by a tone. This would then give the impression that it is easier to play as you would need to bend the string less to reach the desired pitch. I have a 57 historic gold top and 10 - 46 strings, and for me it is almost too easy to play especially compared to my Strat and Telecasters. No top wrap needed.
@guncore
3 жыл бұрын
I've had a lot of experience over the years, and as far as it goes for me there's a couple of things about top wrapping that is undeniably true. I had a lot of breakage of strings at the saddles specifically. I always looked to the sharp saddles as the culprit, but it's the break angle between the tailpiece and the saddles that causes this specific kind of string break. The tension theory in the video rings true. Top wrapping also makes your tuning more stable during dynamic playing. Strum hard, and the note will go less sharp than they would if the bridge wasn't top wrapped. I'm not entirely sure why this is, but what Joe says is true. However, I have noticed that bending up to a certain pitch actually requires more extreme bending when the bridge is top wrapped. You need to bend more to get to the same pitch as you would non-top wrapped. I think this and the above mentioned tuning stability are connected. Because you need to bend more to get to the same pitch, top-wrapping will also give you more control over the range of your bending/vibrato. Overall they both have their advantages and disadvantages. Pick whichever suits you best.
@UmVtCg
3 жыл бұрын
I swore I could hear a difference in your examples. Then I converted your video to an audio file, chopped the examples out of it and have a friend play those to me at random, then we swithed. If our life depended on ot we could not hear a difference. It became nothing but simple guessing.
@clipdump
4 жыл бұрын
Yep. Best guitarist on KZitem. Friday fretworks is amazing!
@LostPlectrum
4 жыл бұрын
Glad to see the channel subscribers growing quickly. Well done Chris!
@bishlap
Жыл бұрын
TOP WRAP BRIDGE sounded very nice to my ear/ear-buds. Thanks
@alec7364
4 жыл бұрын
I thought this was going to be about Jimmy Page and Joe Walsh shaving their guitar necks
@markusfinkler9625
4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂👍👍👍🎸 unbeleavable issn't.
@TempoDrift1480
4 жыл бұрын
No Bueno.
@alec7364
4 жыл бұрын
Thomas Jefferson true, he did buy his #1 from joe already shaved down, but when he bought his #2 1959 les Paul he had that one shaved down to match his #1
@TempoDrift1480
4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't that null and void the entire idea of buying a million dollar guitar?
@alec7364
4 жыл бұрын
Wizzle well, this was all taking place in the late 60s and early 70s when bursts were just considered “used guitars” I guess
@mrp3889
3 жыл бұрын
May I say that your playing style is close David Gilmore? Man sonically you guys are the best.
@attichatchsound-bobkowal5328
4 жыл бұрын
I think the term "tension" is misused here. The term "flexibility" is more appropriate. To have a particular gauge of string reach a particular pitch at a particular scale length - it MUST BE at a particular tension between the nut and bridge. Reducing the grip in the bridge peak and the nut frees up more length of string to be affected by stretching of notes. This gives more flex which SEEMS like less tension. Regarding increased sustain with more post contact: the less downward force on a bridge the less it transfers energy to the body, so the sustain benefit is a wash. Of course in the fog of war on stage none of this makes a nickel's difference! LOL!
@mijorchard6206
3 жыл бұрын
Totally. Just posted something similar (but more long-winded!).
@johnulrich5572
4 жыл бұрын
An old guitarist told me to just raise the tail piece to lessen the take off angle - that's what the adjustments are for. I find that 10s feel like 9s when I raise the tail piece. Nice video.
@AFaceintheCrowd01
4 жыл бұрын
I'm deformed from years of playing a LP Custom three times week and most weekend nights. The thing was so heavy, my left shoulder is lower than the other AND my left arm is longer than the right. And I won't even talk about guitar nipple.
@j_freed
4 жыл бұрын
Class action!! Those heavy Norlins were designed to kill people. But I'm sure you looked cool while you were up there maiming yourself.
@captaincrash9286
4 жыл бұрын
John Martyn famously blamed the loss of his leg on years of wearing a Les Paul...
@AFaceintheCrowd01
4 жыл бұрын
Chryptopher It’s like strapping a small piano to your body. That’s why I bought a Strat.
@MisterTMH
2 жыл бұрын
@@AFaceintheCrowd01 The Les Paul studio I have from 2008 has a chambered body. It weighs the same as my 1991 strat.. :-).
@calvinrose18938
4 жыл бұрын
I love your analytical and informative approach in these videos! The angle made by the string as it passes over the bridge determines the amount of force exerted onto the guitar body by the bridge. I think this downward force probably plays a larger part on the sound than the amount of tail piece area resting on the body. If you think about it, a guitar body with no strings will have a certain fundamental resonance and a set of overtones. When you apply the force of the strings to the bridge, the fundamental body resonance and overtones will be pushed higher. The larger the downward force of the bridge on the body, the more the resonances will be moved higher in frequency. This is because you are increasing the body stiffness as you apply higher downward force. I don't know if you noticed or not, but the top wrapped examples you played had a slightly deeper, fuller sound, while the strung through examples had a much thinner sound. I think this is because the top wrapped examples were placing less force on the bridge and body, and therefore a lower fundamental resonance and overtones. This is the same effect I noticed when I performed acoustical research on Steinway Pianos in 1980 as an Acoustical Engineer at CBS. You were correct, that the tension in the string is the same no matter what the angle as it comes over the bridge, but the smaller the angle, the higher the downward force on the body - and this is what matters most. Let's take that to an extreme. If the angle between the bridge and the string were 90 degrees (flat string with no bend or angle), the downward force world be zero. I love your playing BTW!
@jojokeo
Жыл бұрын
yep, what I was thinking. Excellent logic, reasoning, and common sense.
@covfefe4409
3 жыл бұрын
Is lend it to Pete Townsend when he was in his 20's
@malupaural1494
3 жыл бұрын
yes
@rs700910
4 жыл бұрын
I really look forward to Friday Fretworks 👍👍 thanks Chris..
@videobeach
4 жыл бұрын
Now that this is solved let's talk about tone wood. /s
@therover4141
4 жыл бұрын
It matters on electrics but accoustics more. Hard wood gonna be brighter softer wood darker. Use all the fancy names for the woods you want but it boils down to hard and soft dry and wet.
@staticnat7342
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for educating me on something I knew nothing about. I see no reason for me to try top wrapping, but I appreciate knowing something about it.
@davidbeal8054
3 жыл бұрын
How did Danny Kirwan do it? That's how I'll do it.
@greenmanalishi6963
3 жыл бұрын
Or green
@wjniemi
4 жыл бұрын
Tico Tico at the end was a nice touch. I don't believe I've heard that song since I quit selling home organs in the mid-70s.
@glennosmond4306
3 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to sell a kidney right now...trade for a Strat?........anyone?
@AudreyDurden
4 жыл бұрын
I thought this was going to be about neck shaving. But it still is about Les Pauls so im staying.
@ryanstark2350
Жыл бұрын
This is the best way to set up the stop bar. I have tested all methods. You get bolts that allow you to lock it down but not right down to the body. You use spacers to have it at a more normal height. There is no need for severe break angles.
@eljones8672
4 жыл бұрын
This intro jam here deserves a YT guitar channel award
@Custard_Pie
3 жыл бұрын
Your guitar tone is so satisfying, man.
@weschilton
4 жыл бұрын
Who knows? who cares? Exactly, man!
@davidphillips2151
Жыл бұрын
Hello, Chris, great video. But may I tell you about an alternative method of my own? I, too, prefer the shallow angle of attack at the bridge on spacomatic-&-stoptail-equipped guitars. But I employ a different method. Rather than 'Top-Wrap', and rather than have stoptail studs with exposed threads, I simply add a normal hexagonal nut to each stud (or bolt - ie: nut & bolt). As luck would have it, the normal depth of an 8mm threaded nut is spot-on the right depth to achieve the correct string angle. Not does it look unsightly. The mod involves adding a nut to each stoptail stud before screwing them back into the guitar body, so that the stoptail is raised in relation to the guitar body and the bridge. Then just thread the strings through the stoptail in conventional fashion, and the angle of attack of the strings will be shallow as it needs to be at the bridge (no more, no less) and this shallower angle improves playability (considerably in my view) as discussed. As you have said, some players like to 'top-wrap' strings over the stoptail to achieve the effect (Jimmy Page being a prime advocate) but I feel that my mod is a better solution - if you don't like it, no problem, it is easy to go back to what you did before, but it does not risk the ragged wrappings at the ball-end of the strings doing damage to the stoptail or scratching your hand if you rest your hand there. Nor do you see the unsightly thread of the studs or have studs flapping about (not that string tension would allow that anyway). Meanwhile the studs are fully bolted down if sustain is your aim. I do this on ALL of my stoptail-equipped guitars, including my Revstar. The only problem I found, with my Epiphone custom, was its gold-plated hardware (as I could find only chrone-plated nuts for sale). Well, I obtain them in brass now (on e-bay) and the colour of brass against gold is almost a perfect match. To try this mod yourself you'll need to know what size the nuts are. The cost, on e-bay, is £4.89 for three brass nuts (inclusive of delivery, a couple of weeks). In Chrome, you can buy them almost anywhere. And no, I am not a seller. I just want folk to know that this method works. It is important to note that on far-eastern-made guitars (such as Epiphones, and Yamaha Revstars) stoptail studs are sized according to the metric system, which means the nuts are sized 'M8' (for 8 mm - in fact it is seven-point-eight-nine-something but they call it 8 for simplicity). On my Gibson I've used a slightly different method (a washer instead of a nut, as I don't know which USA imperial-sized nut would fit). I hope this is of interest and helpful to someone. Thanks again for the great videos...
@Sco3000
4 жыл бұрын
I expected this video to be about how Jimmy ruined one of his LP Deluxes by installing a B bender.
@thomasspencer8157
3 жыл бұрын
When you're jimmy page, you get to do anything you want to your guitars, even sanding down the neck of your '59
@Sco3000
3 жыл бұрын
@@thomasspencer8157 That's more of a personal preference thing; not only did the guitar come to him that way, but that was done in the 60's.... The B bender addition was done in the 90's-2000's. Page even admitted the Lp deluxe was therefor ruined.
@thomasspencer8157
3 жыл бұрын
@@Sco3000 oh ok I thought he had done the b bender mod in the mid 70s
@reenoNO
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your nice guitar playing and your KZitem episodes :) If we want to set the tailpiece down to the wood without spacers, the strings sometimes hit the back edge of the ABR bridge as the Gibson neck angle is "big" on some of the Les Paul's. May be the main reason "top wrapping" was done in the old days.
@asambatyon
4 жыл бұрын
Top wrap does feel slinkier but looks ugly as hell, so I just went back to through wrapping
@freto_cognito9001
4 жыл бұрын
Damn, I think it looks cool.
@Joe_whatuknow
4 жыл бұрын
I top wrap my SG. My friend just did it for me when I bought it and he set it up. I didn't know it was a controversial thing. I liked it because I could palm mute much easier in my punk band. Robert Baker has a good video about top wrapping and why you physically can't do it on some Gibsons.
@kylestair4803
3 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine wanting to have less tension on a Gibson scale guitar
@AcceleratingUniverse
3 жыл бұрын
try a mustang some time
@kylestair4803
3 жыл бұрын
@@AcceleratingUniverse Mustangs are cool but gotta have 10s on mine
@tobaccorich
3 жыл бұрын
Jeepers. That playing at the end is lovely !!!
@jegr3398
4 жыл бұрын
There's no string vibration on the tailpiece, the string note rings out from the nut to the bridge, so it wouldn't matter how far down the tail piece is screwed into the body, it wouldn't make a difference. The tension on the string is gonna be the same either way, because if there was less tension on the string behind the bridge, the string would be detuned. The only real difference is break angle, does that make an actual difference in tone and playability? 🤷♂️ Personally I think this is all hocus pocus snake oil.
@grooverstone9553
4 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely correct, but I think the lesser break angle would help with preventing string breakages. It mayyyyy also make the strings feel ever so slightly slinkier? But it’s almost non existent. If you want slinkier feeling strings, just get thinner strings lmao
@johngrey7089
4 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, If what you said is true, then there is no string vibration above the nut either... so a headstock tuner shouldn't work. My Les Paul has a Bigsby tremolo so to test my theory I put a clip on tuner at the very end of the tremolo arm, which is basically a long extention of what would be the tailpiece and I was easily able to tune the guitar.
@jegr3398
4 жыл бұрын
@@johngrey7089 huh? That's not what I was saying at all.
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