The Denial Hypothesis - There is no Fermi Paradox because Fermi never existed
@craigmooring2091
9 күн бұрын
At the start of his argument, he says, "If we assume that life is not a one-off and that we should be able to see them ... [there is a paradox]". Of, course! But there is no basis for either assumption. Life exists here, but no one has even begun to come close to a plausible scientific explanation of how that happened. And no reasonable person who ever grew up in a household filled with sibling rivalries would ever stand on the front stoop trying to get the neighborhood's attention without doing his best to remain unseen while checking it out. So, yes the paradox exists for those who make those unsupported assumptions, but for me and others who see no reason to make those assumptions, it is not a paradox. It is just an interesting thought problem.
@jeremy5602
8 күн бұрын
Yeah cause everything in the universe was created one hour ago and all of history and all your memories were just put into your head
@pastashack3517
Ай бұрын
I'm really impressed with how much info you condensed into a short video!
@quadeappenheimer8135
16 күн бұрын
I was thinking the exact same thing as he was speaking 10000 words a minute lol
@CorwynGC
Ай бұрын
I love the inherent hubris involved in the fermi paradox. WE obviously are going to populate the galaxy and make enough ruckus that other civilizations will see us, so why can't we see them?
@noahmeyer9056
Ай бұрын
That is not the point being made at all by the fermi paradox. It doesn't have to be guaranteed that WE will do that, but its absurd to think that in such a massive and ancient universe, NOBODY has ever done that before us. All it would take would be one single species to have successfully spread out and began constructing dyson swarms, etc. and we would INSTANTLY know that we are not alone. And there has been billions of years of time for this to happen, yet we see absolutely no signs whatsoever that it ever has.
@smaug131
11 күн бұрын
@@noahmeyer9056 how long are those dysonswarms or spheres going to be around though? It may be that civilisations are around so shortly before they eventually collapse on an astronomical timescale (say they hold out for "merely" a few thousand years), that they are better thought of as events that we can look for the signs of, than entities that still exist today. So rather, I think that we should look for the remains of collapsed dysonspheres, which should leave incredibly metallic rings or planets close by their stars, or deorbited into the star itself and may be found as a strangely high concentration of metals in there. Any dysonspheres that DO last however, should cover their stars perfectly as their civilizations would have been pushed to maximise the amount of energy they can get from their star over astronomical timescales. Their systems should only emit subinfrared radiation. I believe that loud civilizations can only exist that way for a small few thousand years.
@mygirldarby
9 күн бұрын
There is zero hubris involved in this paradox. It is the opposite.
@CorwynGC
9 күн бұрын
@@mygirldarby it is us imagining ourselves doing it that brings about the question of why haven't others already done it. We can't imagine that we won't be able to do anything we can imagine. We can't even manage a single planet for a few thousand years, but billions of planets,none of which are hospitable in the remotest degree, sure only take a trifle of time. Hubris.
@TheMikernet
9 күн бұрын
I am of the perspective that it is exceedingly rare for a species to develop technology and not destroy itself quickly after. It was fun while it lasted but we're almost cooked...we've already gotten stupidly lucky a few times. We ain't colonizing shit 😅
@geoffreymartin6363
Ай бұрын
Our ability to observe is half the problem. It's not just that we've only looked at one cup of water out of an ocean of stars; we're looking at it without a real microscope or knowledge of microbes, and we kinda need glasses.
@loganf6259
Ай бұрын
The cup is large enough that it should contain life if life is common
@JohnDoe-jp4em
Ай бұрын
We observed millions of stars systems collectively. If alien intelligent live more advanced than us is common, the whole galaxy should be full of signs that would be hard to miss. It's like saying there maybe is an advanced civilization of mars people millions strong, and we just didn't notice because we haven't combed through every km^2 in detail yet.
@petersmythe6462
29 күн бұрын
We can observe from a distance a good fraction of that ocean. Arguably more than of our actual ocean. Everything we see there looks like something that could be produced without any sort of technology.
@geoffreymartin6363
29 күн бұрын
@@petersmythe6462 literally anyone who is not within a few hundred light years of us would think the same thing, given the same level of technology. And even if another star system had been transmitting radio within the timeframe we could detect it, there's not a huge chance it'll be coherent enough for us to detect it from the background, especially against the radiation of their star.
@JohnDoe-jp4em
29 күн бұрын
@@geoffreymartin6363 Our atmosphere is full of molecules that are extremely implausible to be created without technology, let alone without life. Even with our current technolgical capabilities we could detect something like this from well over 1000 lightyears away.
@Henry-jp3mc
Ай бұрын
My assumption is that there are about 3 or 4 civilisations existing at any one time in the galaxy. But so far away from each other they never interact.
@julien5053
Ай бұрын
What if we are alone in our galaxy ? I don't mean the universe ! The universe is much too big to consider that possibility. We cannot be alone in the universe. But in our galaxy... It's possible ! Of course I don't know. I'm just asking the question.
@defensivekobra3873
Ай бұрын
A substantial part of the fermi paradox is the fact that by fermis estimate, it'd take far less time for an inteligent species to take over and settle the entire galaxy than it does for inteligent life to evolve in the first place
@Henry-jp3mc
Ай бұрын
@julien5053 yes life evolution to our level could be so rare it's one in a galaxy.
@krokusd5361
Ай бұрын
@@julien5053If we are really alone in our galaxy than the potential aliens from other galaxies are never going to reach us due to the enormous distances in the Universe. And we will never reach them.
@tite93
Ай бұрын
@@defensivekobra3873 that's based on the assumption that interstellar travel is feasible, which is not really a given. And on the assumption that civilizations do not destroy themselves or fall victim to external threats
@christopherwilson2606
Ай бұрын
Time and space is too vast for civilization's to ever meet. This is the simplest explanation.
@Mark_Jacobson81
Ай бұрын
I agree
@CoolWorldsLab
Ай бұрын
Difficult to reconcile with the fact even Voyager 2 can traverse the galaxy seven times over Galactic history, and thus seemingly out of 100 billion plus stars no-one ever executed a colonization wave.
@Mark_Jacobson81
Ай бұрын
@@CoolWorldsLab i think the other answer is one that I’m sure you covered fairly recently, that we’re very early.
@jeffbenton6183
Ай бұрын
@Mark_Jacobson81 I like that explanation, but it still calls into question why? As far as I know (and if I'm wrong, Dr. Kippling would be able to correct me) we don't have a reason to suppose that conditions in the Milky Way were any more hostile to life 2 billion years before the Earth was formed that it was when the Earth was formed. It seems to me that if we are early, we are also rare (although again, maybe there's some evidence that I don't know about against that)
@saccharineboi
Ай бұрын
@@CoolWorldsLab Maybe some combination of 1) we are very early and 2) human-level intelligence is extremely rare (1 in 10000 galaxies)
@TwinSimian
Ай бұрын
The biggest hurdle is that until we find extraterrestrial intelligence, we have a dataset of ONE, and that's US. To make predictions based entirely on our own fledgling civilization seems ludicrous to begin with, and frankly UNSCIENTIFIC when you think about it ... we have barely begun to explore even our own solar system, we have yet to achieve Type 1 status as a civilization, we have NO IDEA if we are the first in our galaxy or the latest or somewhere in between, and no reliable way to measure that in a galaxy 13 billion years old. Our knowledge of the evolutionary history of life on our own planet is extremely limited and based on a scarce and fragile fossil record. FACE IT: our smartest "experts" are doing A LOT of guesswork.
@nexuscross3233
9 күн бұрын
One of the few smart comments in here, really a breath of fresh air.
@gwathanaur
9 күн бұрын
@@nexuscross3233 Yes, with a little asterisk regarding the "type 1" thing. "Achieving type 1" is far from a prerequisite, even to galactic domination. The kardashev scale is not nearly as interesting/usefull as its prevalence over the internet would indicate.
@reeves5000
Ай бұрын
There could be an advanced civilization on the other side of the Milky Way, right now, gobbling up stars with Dyson Spheres, and we wouldn't notice the missing light for 10s of thousands of years.
@nickdavis6676
9 күн бұрын
But there is data to suggest that even without ftl travel such a grabby species could have colonised the entire milky way in just the time between us and the trex. Some of these planers have had billions of years to develop life before we came to be.
@reeves5000
9 күн бұрын
@@nickdavis6676 also, a more advanced civ might regard themselves safer in the dark forest by using smaller forms of fusion or alternate forms of energy, say antimatter. Ideas abound my friend, and your logic is sound, but not definitive. I like Nick Bostrom's simulation hypothesis.
@Djsweepaman
Ай бұрын
To me, the paradox assumes that we have looked everywhere, turned every stone, and cant find the aliens. When in reality, all we've done is take a cup of ocean water, looked in the cup and said " where are all the fish?" We really havent even looked. And we assume they follow our technological paths. Its just silly
@ddanndann
Ай бұрын
This. Saying "OMG where is everyone" is just so silly when we can't even look at the closest exoplanet except for its tiny dip in its host star luminance if and only if they are aligned correctly....
@plaguepandemic5651
Ай бұрын
A lot of people base this assumption on the lack of radio contact. But a civilization will have to have been broadcasting for longer than their proportional distance in light years, and that's the main thing. We've only been searching for less than a century, and the vast majority of the universe is a lot further than 100 light years from us. Our galaxy alone is about 100,000 light years across. So the odds that aliens have heard our signals is almost nonexistent. The same is true in reverse. Aliens don't have to just exist, they have to exist at a similar technological level to us, and within the right distance from us, at the same time as us. The universe is 13 billion years old... the probability of our entire species' history existing at the same time as another in our galaxy is tiny. Entire empires could have risen and fallen a hundred thousand times over by now. We experience just a tiny window of the universe in the blink of an eye. Our sense of scale is just not big enough.
@100percentSNAFU
Ай бұрын
I even feel like the paradox assumes we don't even have to look everywhere, it should just be obvious and right in front of us, but since it isn't, it becomes a paradox. It takes a lot of liberties with assumptions. We really can't expect anyone anywhere at anytime to have achieved FTL travel and/or megastructures or even large sub light speed interstellar craft. That doesn't mean it's impossible, but I almost feel like we assume it should just be. Imagine just the raw materials needed to make a real life Enterprise, technology aside. That alone would be highly difficult to acquire.
@ddanndann
Ай бұрын
@@100percentSNAFU even if there are thousands of planet sized spaceships out there flying by our neighbor star systems we would not be able to see them... It's like ants in the middle of the forest looking around and finding no humans and declaring a paradox that humans should have definetely already taken over their area of the forest by now if they existed so where are they? It's as if I doubted elephants exist because even though I have traveled large distances I've never encountered one...
@fsociety6983
Ай бұрын
No it does not lol. It wouldn't be a paradox if you just looked everywhere and said "see, no aliens" The paradox is based on the assumptions discussed in this video. It is a thought experiment, not a claim that the answer has been figured out. It was a thirty second video, was it that hard to pay attention?
@calebo6964
Ай бұрын
l Really find your videos both thought provoking and relaxing. It helped me get through the pandemic❤❤
@kwith
Ай бұрын
No it's not a paradox. All we need to do is be patient and persistent with our search. Keep in mind we are looking for aliens. That, by it's very definition, means something different. We don't even know exactly what to look for. We have ideas but these are based on the sample size of 1 for life. We need to keep searching.
@CoolWorldsLab
Ай бұрын
Every paradox has an explanation, it’s just we haven’t found it yet. Once we find it, it’s no longer a paradox, but until we do, it persists. For example, consider the Algol paradox. Once we understood mass transfer between the stars, the paradox disappeared, yet it was perfectly legitimate to call it a paradox until that moment. I think it’s become trendy to challenge the Fermi paradox’s legitimacy, but there’s simply no good argument for disbanding the term at this time unless you essentially throw away the entire concept of paradoxes.
@ddanndann
Ай бұрын
@@CoolWorldsLabbut this "paradox" is based on a premise that is not well established. If it is that easy to declare a paradox then we'll pretty much every time you're puzzled by a question you can call it a paradox. If we were mapping the terrain of one exoplanet per day with high definition and had been doing that for a couple decades then yeah it could start to be seen as "well I'm looking everywhere and I don't see them so where are they? I should have found something by now". But that's not the case. Our current capabilities to look for life are just very very very limited it is pretty much the same as taking a cup from the ocean and asking where is all the fish because you were not extremely lucky to catch a fish in the cup the first couple times you tried to. I know there are several ways to look for hints of life currently but they are just too little. Looking for irregular dips in star brightness, looking at approximate average chemical composition of an exoplanet atmosphere when they align correctly, looking for patterns in em waves.... This is all just too primitive to constitute "I'm looking but I didn't find any when I should have".
@absolutelyreel8795
Ай бұрын
I suspect radio waves are comparable to smoke signals. Let's revist these questions in 10,000 years.
@JBroMCMXCI
Ай бұрын
The paradox isn't valid because we don't even really look for signs of life. We have a few dishes that might capture some radio signals by chance, but that's it.
@grayaj23
Ай бұрын
Thank you for saying this out loud. Of the two assumptions, I think the second is the weakest. I think things like megastructures and colony ships and slow galactic expansion are the weak points. People like to assume that all technological problems will one day be solved, as if it's inevitable that FTL travel and Dyson swarms must be realistic. I don't think they are. If we're ordinary -- the mediocrity principle -- then the idea that we can get the whole species focused on creating a Dyson swarm for the 1000-odd years it would take to build is IMO preposterous. We can't even keep space programs funded longer than one US presidential election cycle. I'm assuming that our counterparts are likely to be political to some degree. As much as FTL may not be a solvable problem, so might *politics* not be solvable. We still haven't proven that civilization was a good idea.
@nicolasinvernizzi6140
Ай бұрын
i think the idea of a colony ship at subluminal speeds is also ridiculous, its a self contained system that has to be kept unchanged and working for thousands of years and it would be made from elements that react with each other by nature, like the water in the air eventually oxidizing into the ship over the decades. if FTL is not possible then there is no paradox. all those ideas of colonizing the galaxy at subluminal speed are ridiculous once you stop and think about what it needs to happen for it to work.
@episodenull
Ай бұрын
This is my view as well. People like to claim Von Neumann probes should be all over the galaxy, but that assumes that such probes are ever worth building at all. I think interstellar travel is so difficult that any rewards from doing so are not worth the trouble. We're never going to become an interstellar civilization, and neither will anyone else.
@100percentSNAFU
Ай бұрын
Well that's exactly it. All of these things are theoretical, it doesn't mean they can actually happen. FTL travel may very well be impossible. As for megastructures, Dyson swarms, large "ark" type spacecraft, etc, this would at the very least be extremely difficult even with advanced technology just because of the needed raw materials. We can't expect to see these things around out in deep space. Not saying these things are necessarily impossible, but I think we have expectations that are much too grand.
@marsbase3729
Ай бұрын
@@nicolasinvernizzi6140I see your point, but alot of our current assumptions are based on what we know currently. We have no idea what building technology as well as new materials we may have available a few centuries from now. Not to mention interstellar colonization may not be based on terraforming or doming planets and moons but by building ships that are also O'Neil cylinders or Mckendree cylinders which are habitats unto themselves and these could be used as stepping stones to reach further out into our galaxy building from the astroids, planets, moons on the way. Not saying any of this will happen, but if you asked anyone a thousand years ago if we would have buildings hundreds of feet tall and travel many times faster than a horse from place to place in metal boxes with wheels they'd likely doubt the possibility.
@patrickrannou1278
Ай бұрын
@@marsbase3729 >> We have no idea what building technology as well as new materials we may have available a few centuries from now. No, we have a pretty good idea. Progress is not an infinitely linear increase, especially with materials. It is, you get the low hanging fruits first, then as you go higher and higher in the fruits tree, the fruits become harder and harder to get, and you gain less and less of them. We *will* develop now alloys, but thinking that we will have inertron or adamantine like sci-fi materials is lunacy. We are already reaching near the physical limits of materials right now. Same for microprocerssors, we are very near circuitry the size of atoms. Such progress isn't like walking foreward, going further and further. It is more like packing a suitcase with clothes. The suitcase is the "laws of physics". You can develop better and better poacking algorityhms, but at somne point, the suitcase is full or "near" perfectly packed stuff. The next big tech advance will allow you only to "even more nearly" perfectly pack stuff, just a TINY improvement. And so on. Also, FTL would 100% automatically imply Time Travel, no matter the mrhod be it warp d4rive, or magic wands. FTL would break Causality. It's like saying we will one day find a way to reverse Entropy.
@Watcher-pt6uq
Ай бұрын
Considering the utter scale of the universe and how long it took for a spacefaring civilization to appear on Earth, it's highly unlikely the Silurian Hypothesis produced even an industrial civilization, it would not be all surprising if a single galaxy or several dozen galaxies are home to only a single sapient species. Of course, there could be so many other reasons as well. We are asking the question of why we haven't encountered or found signs of an alien species after all.
@trevorbennett
Ай бұрын
The universe is young, and we’re only able to observe the distant past. It’s not surprising that we haven’t seen anything yet.
@williamwillaims
Ай бұрын
We're so late to the party 🥳 I think we're *so* late that we are in an invisible zoo, held together with more than sufficiently advanced technology. It's hilarious that folks think advanced civilisations would be using radio signals 😂😂😂😂
@chriskelso723
Ай бұрын
It's more likely we don't k ow what to look for.
@jacksonburger2081
9 күн бұрын
Honestly, it's not like we've surveyed *that* many stars. We probably just haven't found the correct one yet. Yet.
@Daniel-Strain
Ай бұрын
The problem is the assumption that a space faring intelligent species would expand exponentially and without limit to the rest of the galaxy. What is the incentive to colonize the 80th star system, when you've mastered the art of the balanced, renewable energy, well-tuned utopian society. Curiosity would be at a minimum, the resources would be of little additional value, the survival benefit of one more system is nill. So who is going to rough it when they could be home in their paradise? Expansion to the entire universe is not just an 'unfounded' assumption - it is one so ridiculous that the assertion it would ever happen must be outlined with a LOT of good reasons.
@100percentSNAFU
Ай бұрын
Right, in that scenario maybe you would still send some small scientific expeditions out, but colonization and resource gathering may theoretically become unnecessary or redundant at a certain point of progression. I think too many people think other species out there are all going to be like Romulans and Klingons and want to take over the galaxy. Probably not true, and probably any aggressive species like that would wipe themselves out before they got too far.
@noahmeyer9056
Ай бұрын
The incentive would simply be that they need more space for more people. Sure you can say "they're already living in a utopia and are basically immortal and completely content with their lives, blah blah" okay but, would every single individual in this society think in exactly this way? All it would take would be a small contingent of individuals who DID want to expand, colonize and reproduce, now give them a couple million years....all of a sudden that small contingent would outnumber the original society! There will always be someone who wants more, and if they have the means to do so, they absolutely will expand.
@Daniel-Strain
Ай бұрын
@@noahmeyer9056 People generally choose to have fewer children the more well off they are. And with perfect birth control, immortality, and a pleasure utopia to live in, the birth rate would be below replacement. But I think you have a point, and if there is immortality, then any reproduction would add up, true. Also, perhaps they would have machines to do all the hard work of colonization infrastructure building, making it not that big of a deal to relocate.
@hittman1412
Ай бұрын
The absurdity of having the voyager shuttles which have barely left the solar system, and our arrogance in saying “where is everyone?!”
@nexuscross3233
9 күн бұрын
"Barely left the Solar system" No, not even close, it would take 15,000 years to get anywhere close to "leaving our solar system".
@campfireeverything
Ай бұрын
So weird that people don’t think that the Galaxy and even our own skies could be densely populated but keeping on a slightly different frequency which is just out of normal human sight.
@andrewpodmore2440
Ай бұрын
It's assumptions about the speed of light being the limit of the universe , we have einstein, we have relaitivilty - and it's its been very useful, but its not everything, we just don't know enough yet, and for aliens, I think their already here.
@danij5055
Ай бұрын
I think of it more as "The Fermi Question" than "The Fermi Paradox."
@prototropo
Ай бұрын
Thanks again, David Kipping! In an era when deep-sea exploration and outer-space speculation have both become entertainment for the wealthy or wish-fulfillment for the under-read & less-traveled, we depend more than ever on rigorous science articulated with intellectual coherence by scientist-heroes of ethical integrity. You are that hero/that scientist.
@athosgomesfonseca
25 күн бұрын
There’s a simple solution to Fermi’s problem no one seems to appreciate: spacefaring and interracial/interspecies dynamics are so complex and require such an as of yet unattained level of both technology AND care on our behalf (humanity) that it is most likely that aliens higher up the Kardashev scale have not only already detected us, and/or live among us but we are just too primitive to truly factor in the cosmic equation. In before egos, any species sufficiently advanced to have mastered space travel exists on a sociological level and scale above and beyond any human conception, likely as something analogous to a hive mind, and understand that reckless engagement would simply lead to the destruction of the human biome and to avoid such a catastrophe knowing after observing humanity, the cosmic zoo proposition not only is applicable but it becomes the only plausible scenario-i.e. if the Indo-European dynamic seen circa 1492 is anything to go by, we could pose as much a threat to them as they to us, so their tech and societies are so far advanced that life forms which haven’t yet transcended the primitive and superstitious state humans presently find themselves is are simply left alone until a time such as they’re deemed worthy and no longer a threat based on the aforementioned primitive factors. To summarize, TLDR; aliens are out there, we’re just too ducking stupid to be treats as much more than primitive zoo animals to them, and until such a time as we transcend our self-destructive tendencies, ‘tis best we’re left alone to either transcend this or die out.
@DesertDog
Ай бұрын
You finally made it back into my feed
@robinsarchiz
Ай бұрын
There are like 6000 confirmed exoplanets at this point that have been studied, in a radius of around 5000 light years. The galaxy is 110 000 light years in a diameter with at least a 100 billion stars, and it’s thought every star has 10 planets on average. It’s a bit like looking at the ocean waves and saying there are no fish, ”look we even studied a few glasses of water”.
@WhimsicalShark
Ай бұрын
The Fermi Problem doesn't sound as cool as the Fermi Paradox just like how String Hypothesis doesn't sound as cool as String Theory
@Sajuuk
Ай бұрын
So it's actually the Fermi We Haven't Proved A Lot Of Stuff Yet.
@stevesilver3291
25 күн бұрын
A lone man in the deep woods with a shotgun and a starving family at home stands all day in a blind waiting for something to eat to cross his path wondering where everything is and nothing but a distant squirrel comes into his sites. He fires and misses the squirrel but three deer, fourteen doves and four quail fly away all within a stones throw from his position.
@ticketforlife2103
Ай бұрын
While I think that simple life MUST be out there in great numbers, I do believe it's weird that out of billions of years, billions of planets, our planet is the only which life developed sentient life.
@Leto85
Ай бұрын
This made me think that we never can proof if we're alone in the universe. We can proof if we're not, thd moment we find something. But even if that never happens that still isn't proof of us being alone.
@ElHipokondriako
Ай бұрын
The paradox is that, by Fermi's approximation, given the scale of the universe there should be live within our radiosphere. Either the approximation is wrong, or we shouldn't be here either. Because we are obviously here, then the approximation must be wrong. The "solutions" to the Fermi paradox are ways in which the approximation could be wrong, such as the "great barriers". There is no logical fallacy.
@fajam00m00
Ай бұрын
My hunch is that the false assumption is the second one. We can’t see them due to a prevalence issue. If intelligent life is rare, then intelligent life that is sending signals into space is even rarer. For all we know it could be rare on a scale of one per multiple galaxies. Factor in that civilizations can be destroyed and that intergalactic travel is a huge undertaking, and the paradox dissolves.
@Inug4mi
Ай бұрын
I do actually believe there is an answer to this paradox and when we do answer it, the answer might not be as out of this world as we think it will be. 👽
@MCsCreations
Ай бұрын
The issue is that saying "there are no aliens", although it might be correct (we just don't know), it do not answer the question. On the opposite, it attacks the premise: that there are aliens and that they should be here. So, it's an important question... But it's definitely not a real paradox.
@fsociety6983
Ай бұрын
No one said that it was proof there was no aliens lol. Why not just watch or read something about the Fermi paradox first? He was trying to explain why there's no signs of aliens, not prove that there arent any
@MCsCreations
Ай бұрын
@fsociety6983 Read my comment again, because I believe you didn't understand it.
@fluffysheap
Ай бұрын
I mean, showing that the question is invalid does answer the question. "Why did you paint your house pink?" "Actually my house is gray" "You didn't answer the question!"
@MCsCreations
Ай бұрын
@@fluffysheap I didn't say the question isn't important. On the opposite. My only question is about the logic it needs to follow to be called a paradox.
@Ffollies
Ай бұрын
Wouldn't a paradox depend entirely on an assumption (extraterrestrial life), which may or may not be true? So if we take away the assumption then there is no paradox.
@fsociety6983
Ай бұрын
Correct, that is resolving the paradox. The paradox is "if all the assumptions are true, why are there no aliens".
@rishabhamangala
Ай бұрын
If souls actually exist then there might be alien species which are so advanced spiritually that they don't need a body and they might already be on Earth. In that case they are truly aliens.
@filipmazic5486
Ай бұрын
That closing statement tells me everything I need to know. One of them was “here’s what I’ll do”, the other was “the other person sucks!”
@hawkdsl
Ай бұрын
We might be the first. We are the aliens we seek.
@HanSolo__
27 күн бұрын
1. We are alone. 2. Fermi could ask this question in the last 2 years not over half a century ago. 3. Ergo - we are not to ask this question even today. 4. We are alone anyway.
@burtturdison4445
Ай бұрын
We could well be alone at this time. We could be alone in this dimension. Who says that the entire universe is 3-dimensional? Who says there aren't 4 or 5, or 10 dimensional beings? Maybe they're here (whatever here means) and don't even recognize us. What and Whoever is out there is VERY likely not thinking like us. So whatever "Thing A" means to us likely isn't "Thing A" for them. I personally believe there is something out there but we humans are primitive cavemen. We likely wouldn't even realize someone trying to contact us with our promitive antennas and radio signals.
@waay2high
Ай бұрын
gotta collapse that wave function
@Bokkie100k
Ай бұрын
The value lies in the equation that quantifies each assumption. New data allows us to constantly adjust those quantities.
@DeadmaN-2112
29 күн бұрын
The argument and explanation you put forth is actually correct regarding the theory itself. However, the biggest problem with this whole thing is that we've never seen a single sign of life anywhere, but here. I will revert back to my original argument on this matter. That argument is... The earth and moon system is closely tied to one another. Because of this, there is a regular exchange of material between the two, yet in spite of the millions of years of these exchanges there is not one iota of life existing on the moon. Based upon that fact, it is a ridiculous assumption to even make the claim until you at least have a second data set (or instance of life) to compare the first data set to. Until that moment arises, the whole theory is simply an assumption based upon a gut instinct. And we all know what assumptions add up to. More importantly, assumptions and gut instincts are not science!! But I digress.
@2MANYWWWWWWWWWWWWS4U
Ай бұрын
The ending statement disproved your title.
@CoolWorldsLab
Ай бұрын
Maybe you missed the last word of the title? This is a response video to said claim
@Epicmonk117
Ай бұрын
My solution to the Fermi paradox is that the light from their civilizations hasn’t had enough time to reach us yet.
@ddanndann
Ай бұрын
Even if the light did reach us we would not be able to tell... It's not like we are capable of looking in every direction with infinite resolution...
@philochristos
Ай бұрын
I think it's better to define a paradox as an apparent contradiction between propositions that appear to be true. I don't think there are any real contradictions in reality.
@CoolWorldsLab
Ай бұрын
Sure I’d go with that
@qwertyuiopas984
Ай бұрын
we don't even know what kind of alien life are we looking for. for all we know, "alien" life may be much more alien than we anticipated.
@aldretaldret4310
9 күн бұрын
My intuition is not a Fermi paradox. ❤😊
@MotocrossElf
Ай бұрын
Paradoxes don't necessarily imply that one conclusion or the other is false. Nonduality and multivalent logic means that multiple premises can be simultaneously true, even if context sensitive or contingent on perspective. The failure to grasp this kind of thing might be exactly why we haven't found evidence of alien life and why scientific thinking thus far has mostly failed to save the world.
@superhawk20002
9 күн бұрын
I'm going to guess that we are all alone, and if by some miraculous chance we aren't, we (humanity) will never know.
@ruthlesshatchet6353
Ай бұрын
We can't even proof that last Thursday happened.
@Absolutely_puck_fakestine
Ай бұрын
😂😂 you believe in Thursdays ???
@stevenfarnaby1255
Ай бұрын
Where is everyone? A very long way away from us.
@otherperson
Ай бұрын
Really glad to see this published! Will help me get through this book as well
@DL-fm6sv
Ай бұрын
“Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” - Arthur C. Clarke
@DL-fm6sv
Ай бұрын
Cool Worlds is my favorite channel. 🤓
@Jim-x1i
18 күн бұрын
we are stuck in islands of time. there was a species like us out there 2 billions of years ago and now we exist and once we are gone 2 billion years later or 500 millions years later another will rise. We are not separated by space or distance, but time.
@georgespalding7640
Ай бұрын
I think the Fermi paradox is a very valid statement when it comes to our own galaxy. Now, as far as other galaxies, I think it would be difficult to assume the same situation for them as there are so many others out there who may have different forms of Evolution to build on.
@speedyd8150
Ай бұрын
There's no way we're alone in the universe. They might not be intelligent or look like us but the chances that something else is to big.
@melandor0
Ай бұрын
What if the chances of abiogenesis are unfathomably remote? 10^-100 - rarer than planets in the observable universe?
@basslinedan2
Ай бұрын
@@melandor0I think people too readily reject this possibility
@100percentSNAFU
Ай бұрын
@@melandor0We still don't even know how our own life arose, abiogenesis is just one of many theories. Until we understand how we exist it will be even harder to understand the possibilities of others existing.
@fsociety6983
Ай бұрын
@@basslinedan2People also too readily assert it as true. Humans are bad with very low probabilities.
@trozz7660
Ай бұрын
Before Fermi was able to prove he actually owned the first rights to the intellectual conumdrum that is his namesake paradox, he had to contend with Jenkins sniping his comment at a Christmas party and instead getting it mixed up with how many parampapumpums were in the little drummer boy song. At the time Fermi's girlfriend thought it was mean of him for trying to rain on Jenkins joke (plus his story was way funnier than Fermis Debbie Downer question).
@FrankJohnson-r3e
Ай бұрын
The title of this short is "There is no Fermi Paradox". Conclusion of the short: there still is a Fermi Paradox. 🤪🤨
@CoolWorldsLab
Ай бұрын
It’s a response to the quote
@FrankJohnson-r3e
Ай бұрын
@@CoolWorldsLab Ah, okay 👍
@barrysnelson4404
26 күн бұрын
What on earth is the point of juggling semantics to prove that Fermi was "wrong"? All he was gently saying to those who continually claim that hundreds of millions of star systems " must" have generated countless manifestations of intelligent life was "Why can't you find a trace of just one single one?" You didn't answer because there isn't an answer.
@robertcleminson3100
Ай бұрын
we haven't even started to look
@reluctantloner9162
14 күн бұрын
Once we reach type 2 civilisation maybe we'll get answers.
@stanisawmaternik7279
Ай бұрын
But maybe we saw the aliens but we never recognise them as civilisation. That could be some paradox, they are somewhere there but we couldnt see them just becouse they are so different
@Absolutely_puck_fakestine
Ай бұрын
Ridiculous, to travel so far they would have used a vessel producing so much energy that we would have detected them
@fsociety6983
Ай бұрын
@@Absolutely_puck_fakestineCrazy to me that people are this confident/arrogant about things that are literally unknowable
@juanito714ok
Ай бұрын
I've ALWAYS thought, "Where does "paradox" come into play in Fermi's Paradox."
@damiensmith9240
29 күн бұрын
It's not an empirical question. We can't possibly search the whole universe and disprove the possibility of alien life. It's *ONLY* possible to prove they exist, if we ever find them.
@nrdkraft
Ай бұрын
I imagine that assuming we would see aliens communicating or doing other things in a way we could detect would be like an aboriginal person assuming everyone uses smoke signals he would see, not imagining anything like the internet or Bluetooth or radio waves which would be invisible to him.
@Ollerismo
Ай бұрын
Are there past scientific paradoxes that have been solves with new observations?
@CoolWorldsLab
Ай бұрын
Yes! The Algol Paradox for example
@Ollerismo
Ай бұрын
@@CoolWorldsLab oh! I did not know about that! Can you make a video about it?
@pyroromancer
Ай бұрын
theyre terrified of us. we split the atom for war before reaching space
@AlexisOmnis
Ай бұрын
They're hiding inside their own little warp bubbles or, more specifically, they are hiding the part of space in which they live & all planets stars etc. inside it, in higher spatial dimensions, relative to an observer/observation (in this case, us)
@squirlmy
28 күн бұрын
Is the background music from Interstellar? because that hurt a little bit. Maybe the "aliens" we eventually meet are going to be our far future selves? Sortof bookshelf carpenters who bend space in time within black holes? lol
@joshclearwater6461
9 күн бұрын
It should be called "The Fermi Puzzlement."
@10469
Ай бұрын
It’s impossible for use to be alone in the entire universe.
@fsociety6983
Ай бұрын
Nope. No one knows how likely or unlikely it is so you can believe what you want there, but it's certainly not impossible
@lambda_calc
Ай бұрын
I like the dark forest theory. There's probably plenty of life out there, but it's not broadcasting its existence because there might be evolutionary/survival pressure to hide.
@johns783
Ай бұрын
or y'know, they all just bugs at best.
@markpeller1384
Ай бұрын
I don't think the Dark Forest solution makes much sense, as by the time a civilization decides to hide, it's probably too late. It's already too late for us, for example.
@Hidden_Seeker_
27 күн бұрын
It’s only a paradox if you assume we necessarily would have encountered evidence of life if it exists
@moladiver6817
Ай бұрын
Either we're early in the game and we're the only advanced species in the Milky way. Or we're very late to the party and we simply can't detect aliens because their technology is millions of years ahead of us and we can't even begin to fathom what that technology would look like. Either of these is true. The chances of a Star Trek galaxy with species that follow a more ot less synchronous development are basically 0. Simply too much time has passed for that to be true.
@cropcircler
26 күн бұрын
Neither assumption is capable of being disproved
@danimal865
Ай бұрын
There could be civilizations just as advanced as we are on every planet capable of supporting life. We just don't know because we can't zoom in enough lol
@doubleslit9513
9 күн бұрын
EXACTLY! The question itself is wrong imho though even a wrong question occasionally is helpful in finding a more correct query. For instance, instead of asking “where is everyone?“ Why not ask “Why are we not looking for everyone in the visible light spectrum?” or better yet “Why do we not seem to be trusting our own eyes, ears, touch, other senses , recorded media, multiple witness testimony, police & pilot reports, etc.?” 😱 it’s just not as complicated or elusive as SETI would have us believe.Again, in my humble opinion. 🙇♀️
@AnyOtherNamePlease
Ай бұрын
I love this soundtrack! ❤ 'Atlas - Waking Up'. I wish I could find it somewhere 😞
@lannyplans
19 күн бұрын
There is no paradox because the are here!
@robbub4811
Ай бұрын
I like to think there is life out there. If the universe is infinite then the chance of life is also infinite.
@WilliamWilliams-o4u
Ай бұрын
As we've hardly properly investigated the planets that revolve around our sun why are we assuming there's no life out there. There are billions of planets and we will hardly ever investigate most of them. It's like having your first driving lesson and wondering why you haven't passed your test yet.
@AlMansurpictures
9 күн бұрын
They're just couldn't reach us with their tech, same with us....
@marcusc9931
Ай бұрын
SInce interstellar travel takes too long to bear fruit within the lifetime of anyone who could be in charge, no aliens who developed in ways resembling humans would ever be able to acquire funding for leaving their solar system.
@perfecthollywood
Ай бұрын
It’s a “Fermi Conundrum”
@kimepp2216
Ай бұрын
I don't think we have found another planet just like earth with a moon, atmosphere, and oceans, amongst our closest neighbors. The odds are that one planet like ours in every galaxy. We are on the verge of looking for life on Europa, Ganymede, and Enceladus. Its too early to tell.
@TheOtherSteel
Ай бұрын
Our observation light cone is tiny against the history of the universe. After a hundred thousand years of observation, I think we'll have a better view of the presence or absence of major alien civilizations in this galaxy. After a few million years, we'll know better about the local group of galaxies. Once enough billions of years have passed, galaxies at current billions of light years away may well have passed beyond our future cosmic horizon.
@Chris-kq9lb
Ай бұрын
Solving Mortality (ability to become Immortal) offers the ability to travel great distances. 100 years from now through bioengineering the human body creating much stronger vital organs (brain stem heart lungs kidneys) we could increase lifespan to approach immortality. Then LY travel times become achievable.
@PoliticalScienceSensei
17 күн бұрын
Nice background music. Is there a full length version of it? Source?
@Agatesforbrains
9 күн бұрын
A better base is this either the moon is artificial, making evolution extradinarily fast on this planet, or it is exceedingly rare by the probability that it is natural, which is so improbable occams razor comes into play and indicates it's much more likely to be artificial. But if it's not, then in all probability, we are extremely early. Which means we are probably alone.
@russellbertolino3014
Ай бұрын
Given the state of our world,why would they make themselves known if they even do exist?
@Jules-hn6un
Ай бұрын
If the second assumption is incorrect (we could never detect them), then the first (intelligent life exists somewhere) is still possible,since absence of evidence isn’t evidence of absence, But if the first assumption is incorrect, then the second instantly evaporates, but is is akin to proving a negative. It “feels” like a scientific paradox, buts its really just a linguistic sleight of hand used everywhere there’s a gap in human knowledge. E.g., “if there is a god, and it’s possible to go to heaven, then why don’t we see any evidence of it?”. Fermi just applied it to alien life.
@chrischros8790
23 күн бұрын
Could it simply be that any extra-terrestrial life is at around the same stage of development that we are currently +/- a couple of centuries and therefore we simply can't have received any signs of their existence?
@ClarkPotter
Ай бұрын
Let's just pretend 100k ppl and innumerable technological detection apparatuses haven't identified (presumably) alien craft. We'll just sweep that under the rug.
@fsociety6983
Ай бұрын
Not a single piece of verifiable proof. Doesn't mean it isn't true for sure, but pretty obvious why people don't tend to pay much attention to it
@BennnWJK
9 күн бұрын
Well, intelligent aliens probably do exist. They’re just too far away for us to observe them. Or are choosing to remain undetectable after observing us…
@alienalienovich7593
Ай бұрын
Civilizations is rare and they don't live long enough thats it. It's very unlikely to exist in the same time frame and be close enough for communication. Maybe in some galaxy there is been such cases but not for us
@petevan8942
Ай бұрын
So many galaxies,how can we be the only life in the universe.... distance and lifespan prevents us meeting
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