Link to mentioned Nerd Crank Database: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XEFMbNAjIo2FQ2t3yVPH7yIvtJSfcWGx9Q9jpq9dduk/edit#gid=0
@davidstaudohar6733
Жыл бұрын
I've invented the zero gravity bicycle, and was Rob blind by the patent companies, I also invented a single sealed crank, with a grease fitting in the bottom of it, I break out my grease gun pump the cylinder up, watch the grease lose from the seal and I know that I have a packed Crank that will never rust because air can't get to it, my next endeavor is to make sealed hubs for the wheel, 3 Zurich fittings can keep your bicycle rolling a lifetime maybe five lifetimes ♦️♦️♦️ Diamond Dave ❤️‼️
@mydearriley
Жыл бұрын
How do we join your discord?
@Zensō-music
Жыл бұрын
Great video! I love the Silver low/low in 34/24, perfect for an old guy like me who turns 61 this month. If I max out 34/11 I just coast. 😅 I installed the VO Grand Cru 46/30 on my daughter’s Pass Hunter. It’s a beautiful crank but one thing to be aware of is the minimal clearance between the crank arm and the outer ring, which is great for the knees but pretty severely limits which front derailleurs will work. Another classic is the Sugino XD2 triple, probably my favorite of all time and still a super deal. I don’t believe it’s rated for off road use, so it may not be useful for many in your audience, but it’s hard to beat for road use. Remove the big ring and replace it with a guard and you have a really nice 34/24 + guard.
@davidbabcock3261
Жыл бұрын
for heavier touring, I set up my Surly Troll for Latin America trips with an old school 44/32/22 and 11-34, Gevenalle shifters which work great. I have spent months on the bike on all kinds of roads, all kinds of gradients, all kinds of surfaces--and still feel a triple like this works so , so well for the type of touring I've done riding through Central America, Mexico or France or wherever. Gearing range 17- 103 g.i. I dunno, with front friction shifting being so nice, smooth, silent, etc the positives of a triple still really appeal. And I'm not a grumpy old retro grouch, I love riding my STI bike, and my 1x fatbike too, but I have always had the same view as yours regarding lower gearing. Been touring since 89 and even lightly loaded, most bikes have stupid high gears, so these smaller doubles really make sense.
@jacobatherton8339
Жыл бұрын
Square taper has been around so long, it just works. Looks better than hollow cranks imo. love my old 130/74 triple. I run it 39/28 with a 44 outer chainring as a bashplate. I can manually shift to the outer ring if I really want to use it.
@icenijohn2
Жыл бұрын
Another option, especially if you want/need true low gears for loaded touring, is to buy older Suntour XC Pro/Expert MicroDrive cranks with the 94/56mm BCD, then you can easily achieve a 6:1 or greater overall range of gearing. I have this on my 531ST touring bike, and using a 12-34 cogset and 20/32/46 chainrings I have a 15.9" low to 103.5" high with a 6.5 overall range, just right for getting heavy loads over the mountains without destroying my knees, yet the higher gears are good for unloaded rides as well. The 56mm inner chainrings still show up on eBay, and being steel they last a very long time. I rode across the US many years ago with a SR Apex 5TG crankset (a copy of the Stronglight 99) with 52/36 rings and a Regina 14-28 freewheel, and my knees are still hurting from that. By the time I later toured India and Nepal I was using 44/28 and 13-34, so my present gearing is just a logical evolution from that.
@imrevadasz1086
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm I'm currently trying to find a crankset for 94/58 (5 arm mount, whatever the exact mm are), because I have 40/30/20 chainrings left from a used crankset with extremely seized pedals, and that would be just perfect for long days in the Alps with a 12-36 or 11-40 cassette.
@slowwerthensnot
Жыл бұрын
Long live Square Taper!
@Jacob99174
Жыл бұрын
Objectively, why?
@slowwerthensnot
Жыл бұрын
@@Jacob99174 doesn’t require anything crazy for bb , cheap bb last quite a long time, I seem to get a year plus without creaking, fine tune chainline with different bb spindles…..
@Jacob99174
Жыл бұрын
@@slowwerthensnot limits your options for cranksets, however I can dig that!
@Ferrichrome
Жыл бұрын
I have a 20 year old bike that does not creak, I don’t know what type of crank or BB it is though
@ZhengZL69
Жыл бұрын
I feel like square tapers are harder to maintain because you need more tools (the spindle extractor) and I feel something like Shimano's hollowtech system is more efficient. You can do everything with an Allen key and it is usually both lighter and maintenance free as long as the tolerance on the bb shell is good and the bearings are well sealed.
@nickporter3531
Жыл бұрын
Glad to see Spa getting a mention! I have a set of 42/26’s from them. Excellent value and great quality crankset. Lots of other very useful stuff of their website.
@beemrdon52
Жыл бұрын
I like triples. Sugino offers beautiful cold forged cranks in 48-38-28 or 46-36-26 and other combos. These have been around for decades. Price is around $200 to $300 . Also, Shimano makes the Sora trekking series crankset that comes stock on the Salsa Marrakesh touring bikes 48-36-24, as I recall. Not the most beautiful but works well.
@PghPA81
Жыл бұрын
So glad to hear you mention a 42-28 on a Salsa Vaya. I have been running a 42-28 with an 11-36 cassette on my Vaya for about 8 years putting thousands of miles on this set up including 6 loaded tours (yes of course replacing chain rings, cassettes and chains). This gearing has been perfect for me. Anything bigger than 42 teeth on a chain ring is unnecessary for party pace. Unloaded I spend most of the time in the 42 tooth chain ring and loaded I spend most of the time in the 28 tooth chain ring.
@lunam7249
Жыл бұрын
yep my friend..you have discovered true cycling...not that fucking corn cob bullshit on tour de france bikes!! megarange 34 tooth forever!!
@lostisleminstrel
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for talking about the tremendous overgearing on bicycles. My 1x10 has a front 34 tooth, rear 11-36. Yes it is low geared but I have spent more time in 34 11 while riding. I spends my money and want to use all those gears instead of saving them for the day I plummet off a cliff. Keep up the good work demystifying the hype.
@MelvinHughesatp
Жыл бұрын
The White Industries Eno crank uses a square-taper bottom bracket and is compatible with the VBC chainrings. I love my square tapers!
@MisterAndyS
Жыл бұрын
I splurged on the René Herse 46/30 and have no regrets. I'm at 12000 miles and still on my first set of sprockets, first cassette, second chain. These suckers are lasting! I did recently buy a replacement 46T ring when they came in stock, just so I'll have it when I need it. I'm in the 46T 95% of the time.
@SurpriseMeJT
Жыл бұрын
Which front derailleur are you using?
@snafu0o0o
Жыл бұрын
I went with Velo Orange and also found other parts at the local co-op and it went great. The BB width has been a little challenging due to my ignorance but it’s gettin solved easy enough now.
@lunam7249
Жыл бұрын
most BB are in between 67mm - 73mm this will fit most cranksets with or without spacers..
@sagehiker
Жыл бұрын
Feel like joining the biking Contras against the Eagles! There are so many more great crank choices out there using square taper bottom brackets than there are for press fit or external bearing types. It took me a while but after too many times having to tweak a Box 9 or Eagle GX system while my resto-mod 2x or even 3x keep spinning, I am a convert. This is great peek into your experience. I have also watched some of the pitfalls with Henry Wildeberry.
@LammersQuarter
Жыл бұрын
Cool piece! Square tapered is a no go if you are a hard charging (MTB/Gravel) rider over 85 kilos. It’s a mechanical standard because it’s the cheapest way to interface cranks with a bottom bracket, not the best way/better way. All the square tapered cranks I tried failed (came loose, deformed or broke at the interface). I have been on the 24mm Shimano threaded bb interface for more than 20 years. Cheap, simple and effective. Never a problem and all the gears you want cheaply available.
@LammersQuarter
Жыл бұрын
@@PRH123 they didn’t jump their bikes to my knowledge…
@leightonbohl1920
Жыл бұрын
Hi, Russ - The Spa Cycles compact cranks are copies of the Sugino Alpina 2 triple (mentioned in Frank Berto’s history of derailleur gears) for a fraction of the Japanese maker’s prices. They are eminently versatile, from 24 teeth on the 74 BCD inside lugs, to beyond the mid-50 tooth on the outside of the 110 outside spider. Rings are produced by Spa, or you can buy pricier kit in the form of TA rings. On my bikes I use them as a triple (with Dura Ace 7700 derailleurs), a double (with Campag Nuovo Record derailleurs), and a single (middle ring with shims to take the place of the outside ring on the spider) on a converted Kona 90s MTB with a Shimano Altus 8 speed rear derailleur and an 11-34 rear cassette. I would not use any other crankset . . . Perfect! The Fossill
@johnkem2630
Жыл бұрын
Agree Russ. A smaller chainring is lighter than the 11 & 12 speed cassette cogs. One can also use 10, 9 or 8 speed cassettes for weight savings and use a shorter & stronger chain with the benefit of a better chain-line. The longer life and lower expense of less gears is another benefit. One can also eliminate the front derailleur and use the smaller chainring for only the anticipated steep climbs as you once demonstrated. 👍
@JaccoSW
Жыл бұрын
Two thing; 1. You don't even have to rummage through a bin for the 50.4 chainrings. Spécialités T.A. still makes them to this day! 2. Another 46/30 crank is made by the British Chater-Lea.
@Ey_up
Жыл бұрын
Another boost for Spa Cycles' TD-2 cranks and custom rings. I run a 46-30- bash guard on a Shimano 113 square taper and a 2x Shimano l05 fd on my Homer. 38-24-bash guard on 118 Stronglight square taper with a Shimano Exage 3x fd (28.6 readily available and cheap on ebay), for the day I go triple on my Atlantis (max 2.4 tyres). Spa Cycles can give all the chainline/bb options advice you may need. Unless you get the boss on a bad day, the staff are superb! The opposing reviews you may find always make me laugh but having spoken directly with staff, they are very friendly!
@rodneynoriel1528
Жыл бұрын
If you’re doing a vintage road… never forget the Campagnolo gran sport 116bcd. They are a great way to run a semi compact on a vintage super record. I hoarded a bunch of 50t and 35 t chainrings before people discovered them.
@lunam7249
Жыл бұрын
most campanolo vintage is 135mm BDC , very expensive and hard to find along with suntour biopace
@greggr1591
Жыл бұрын
I got a Silver 32/22 on my RivGus and it's been perfect: I can spin up nearly every grade I've ridden (except the insane ones) and with standard 9-speed in back I have plenty of top end for my retrogrouch legs to play with.
@scottcopeland7457
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Russ. I’ve decided to give the New Albion Clipper crank a try. Should be arriving this afternoon.
@philhouck3560
2 ай бұрын
I used square taper cranks for years because that was all that was available back in the 70's and 80's. When Shimano came out with Octa-link, I switched in a hurry because it was the first time I didn't have to live with "chainring wobble" that made trimming the front derailleur frequently necessary. Sadly Octa-link is history now. If one is contemplating a crankset that uses a square taper spindle, make sure the bottom bracket and the crank are compatible. The current standard is JIS spindles and cranks that provide a more stable connection, that's to say, less wobble.
@123moof
Жыл бұрын
My 2x bikepacker is setup with 34/24 and 11-42 with 29x2.5 and has been pretty decent, but I agree it is not hard to spin out when unloaded, or on any sort of downhill. I also recently picked up a 90’s 26er, despite your warnings, with 44/32/22 setup with 11-34 out back, and it has reminded me that triple rings are pretty great at both ends. At $100 it might be cheaper to buy an old bike than a new crankset if you want to try things out (if you ignore the couple hundreds bucks in parts and a few weekends to get the rust heap rolling nicely again).
@ehounshell
Жыл бұрын
Love my 44/32/22 * 11-34 dadbike. 22 for hauling the kid trailer over the mountain. 44 for zooming across town.
@racerx8410712
Жыл бұрын
Russ you know I've been preaching 2x, four bolt mountain forever!!! Thank you for coming around! Now just take my other advice and run a 11-36 in the back with your 38-24 front combo!
@ninacnmmsncom
Жыл бұрын
I changed out the chainring on my Liv road bike. Went with FSA SLK. Very pleased and didn’t break the bank either.
@JonathanBays
Жыл бұрын
I use the Velo Orange its great looks great on a retro bike and gives good low gears for older riders
@scottallison7157
Жыл бұрын
Maybe someone already noticed this detail, in comparing the Sugino XD2 to the SPA CYCLES TD2/RD2, the SPA TD2/RD2 has all 5 chainring bolts exposed, minor detail, but worth noting. Didn't know about the TD2/RD2, wow, an insane price point, wondering if there's some sort of hidden catch? Love that you can get a silver set with a black bash guard.
@fancytyme
Жыл бұрын
I've used the VO, IRD, and René Herse cranks. They've all been great in my experience. I also have a '53 Galmozzi Super Competizione with the Stronglight 49D crank that the VO is based on -- modern materials are a lot better! I like the Herse cranks the most for elegance and the sheer range of options. I'm also in the process of turning a 3x Sugino Impel into a double - 36t Spécialités T.A. "middle" ring (Wolf Tooth narrow chainring bolts) and 22t Vuelta inner. That might be too spinny but we'll see!
@tillman5529
Жыл бұрын
Great video! I recently tried to find a budget friendly sub compact double and the spa cycles kind of crank (Sugino XD2 copy) was what i decided to go with, if i would set up my old trek 970 with brifters. Well i probably wont, because the bike is unfortunately a bit too small and just doesnt justify the investment but thats another story. Here in Europe there is also the Stronglight Impact Crankset available, depending on where you can source it for under 100 Euros, too.
@GeekonaBike
Жыл бұрын
30t small ring w/ the huge cogs available today will still get you a gear that is slower than getting off the bike & walking. Back in the day Triples often has a 28t granny gear paired to much smaller big cog on the rear.
@lunam7249
Жыл бұрын
yep. correct.. a 30 tooth nice for road bikes....some mountains are super steep and older people dont like the knee pain so prefer a a 22 front with 34 rear ....yes, maybe "slower" that walking up mountain, but wayyyyy more effficient and less tiring....😮🎉❤
@lunam7249
Жыл бұрын
@RollinRat yes, sometimes i go to the gym and do deep squats to get the different muscle groups worked...
@veloaa-montreal6924
Жыл бұрын
I've been shopping for an XC hardtail for bikepacking and it's virtually impossible to buy anything with a double nowadays. I was looking at the Trek Police bike online, it has a 10-speed 11-42 cassette with a 26/36, I thought "wow! that's the perfect setup!!" And it comes with 29x2.2" tires and a rear rack!!! It's very telling about the industry that they would build such a practical bike and not offer it to the public.
@stuartpotter4923
Жыл бұрын
Great content on practical alternatives to the mainstream, as always. Worth noting that if you like SqTaper (like I do) and also like the look of the White Industries VBC double, or even their single ring options, they also do a SqTp version as well as the 30mm spindle External BB options.
@jefflingo5322
Жыл бұрын
Nice video Russ - glad you cover realistic gearing and the stuff you use. Another good budget choice is the Dimension Cyclocross crank arm set (110/74) that can be setup as a triple or double. I run it as double with 38 - 24 Origin8 chainrings. You can find it online at Modern Bike.
@VishalNaik-ux2sk
Жыл бұрын
My eyes have been thoroughly opened. Thanks a ton for that
@stephensaines7100
Жыл бұрын
I can personally pledge for Spa Cycles and ordering chain-rings from them! I have a coveted pair of Stronglight 99 triples, got a great deal on them brand new C$125 but with an awkward set of ratios for mid and outer. I bumped the mid (46t) up to the outer, and use a 40t, which I ordered, for the mid. The existing 28t inner remains. (I have a brand new pair of SR 30s if ever needed, SR being the only other known user of 86mm BCD rings) I replaced my TA Cyclotouriste Pro V set, couldn't get replacement rings anymore in North Am. And here's the upside: Spa Cycles not only carry all the replacement rings (even tooth numbers only) for TA, they do also for Stronglight, and have an exclusive supply arrangement with SL to distribute all the SL and TA rings (SL made and continue to make TA rings), and at a *very good price*! Even with postage, the price was cheaper than I was getting the rings here in Toronto when they were available by local distributors. Remember, the UK prices are advertised with VAT included. For export, that is taken off the advertised price. I called Spa before ordering, incredibly helpful and informed folks. They mail by airpost, it took less than two weeks to arrive.
@stephensaines7100
Жыл бұрын
If and when the mid ring wears to the point of replacing, I'd order a 38t instead of 40t just to more evenly spread the ratios.
@Fake_Name12345
Жыл бұрын
For ~$100 MTB single cranks offer modern bottom bracket options and chainrings down into the 20's
@cosinus_square
Жыл бұрын
TA / Stronglight /VeloOrange cranks can go 44/26 lowest plenty of chain rings available brand new. I retrograded my rando bike about a month ago from a GRX 46/30 to Stronglight 49D cranks with 46/26 rings and OG loose ball bottom bracket. The VeloOrange cranks would prob be the best option for most people as Stronglight is ISO taper, TA is the same iirc, while VeloOrange is JIS - the most common type of square taper.
@PathLessPedaledTV
Жыл бұрын
Please link to these plentiful 50.4 chainrings you speak of.
@justin10054
Жыл бұрын
@@PathLessPedaledTV Peter White Cycles sells brand new TA chainrings for 50.4 BCD cranks. I bought a nice set from them last year to use on the Sugino PX crank I got for my Ebisu. They stock chainrings as low as 26t.
@robbykills
Жыл бұрын
@@justin10054 yep came here to post that
@cosinus_square
Жыл бұрын
@@PathLessPedaledTV already replied but not sure what happened to my comment?! SpaCycles sells them in UK
@jonathanwilcox9592
Жыл бұрын
I've recently custom my Stronglight Impact triple (110/74) to 40/24 without a chainguard. It has been hard to find a suitable front mech to use with shimano brifters that has a short enough cage to mount close to the outer chainring without fouling the chainstay. I might add a large chainguard to allow use of typical road front mech. Currently using an XT 2x10 front mech but the cable pull is wrong - fortunately my brifters are 3x so there is plenty of additional pull to shift, which is rare and predictable. It's fine because the shifting is infrequent but I am keeping my eye out for a well priced short-cage front mech that will not foul the chainstay e.g. IRD sub-c, Microshift 74s, BURD, Shimano CX70. I totally agree with Russ that 40/24 is spot on for recreational all-road riding.
@jonathankeenan5163
Жыл бұрын
Square taper all the way. Last 10x longer than the dross that was supposed to replace it. A big thumbs up for Spa Cycles. Their web site is like a time warp to 1990's homespun web design but a solid company that know their stuff. Also a shout out for Middleburn cranks (UK company) that make some great options. A well timed video as I am just mid-struggle deciding the transmission for a new build. Glad you made it back from Europe safe and sound!
@rikmiddleton974
Жыл бұрын
Hadn't heard of any of these until you got to "Spa". (I'm UK) They are the solution as far as I am concerned and can vouch for them. I've been on them for years.
@trueartvandal
Жыл бұрын
I'm in a big triple groove right now. Got a 52-42-30 on my all road bike and a classic 42-32-22 on my ATB, both used from my local co-op. Middle ring and largest cog is a good combo for max efficiency, and shifting to a smaller chainring after that as a bailout gear makes for an easy shift
@lunam7249
Жыл бұрын
triples!!!❤
@richardcarr6493
Жыл бұрын
l ve been running 46t single with 28t bail out and changed to a 44t this for easier pedaling into the winds last summer and biking with kids alot too :) This is mounted to my old steel miyata via deore 175 mtb cranks 12-32 out back
@sadhu6740
Жыл бұрын
VO drillum w/campagnolo 10spd record on the litespeed. IRD 46×30 on the 27×1 1/8 wheeled nuovo record vintage bike. Both work perfectly and look proper on an older bike. Superglad these companies exist
@The2808erik
Жыл бұрын
Shimano has been offering 46/30 with the FC-CX50 crank set for a long time over 10 years at least, it's cheap and uses the hollow tech bottom bracket.
@markxkovacic
Жыл бұрын
46/36
@The2808erik
Жыл бұрын
@@markxkovacic No, it's also available in 46/30, or it was idk if it still is. I have this crank set on my bike. The most important thing is it's 110 BCD it means you can get a lot of different chainrings for it.
@knife1406
Жыл бұрын
thanks russ, I got VO crankset and couldn't be happier. It's funny how many myths there are about square taper vs modern outboard bbs. The only reason outboard bbs exist is just to make manufacturing easier, theres really no performance gain, although one place it is better is hardcore mountain biking with a lot of big jumps. But since im road and gravel i'll take the tried and true. Renneherse actually made an article on this too, if you wanna make a "why square taper is awesome" vid :p
@grvl307
Жыл бұрын
50 tooth is fine. Why? Because at regular people speeds the chainline is straight and you're on the center of the cassette. So the wear is lower. 53 tooth is too big for most people, but 50? Nah. For gravel 46/30 chainring with an 11-34 cassette is fine for a lot of people. Not saying smaller chainrings don't have their place , but this generalisation is not really warranted.
@JohnPilling25
Жыл бұрын
Great summary Russ. I’m about to upgrade our two bikes that we keep in France (yes 90’s mtb’s with 3x7) to something a bit more capable as not only do we go out gravel riding on the D and F roads in the Pyrenees, but we also need rear racks and panniers to do our grocery/wine shopping and it’s pretty hilly. I like 1x and my bike is going to a 40 to 11-48 setup (microShift advent x with 104 bcd shimano z- crank and a hollowtech bb) but the gearing is still too high for me getting up places like Rocacorba in Banyoles. My cheap fix would be to move the 40 ring to the outside of the 104 bcd spider and fit a 30T ring on the inside. As you mentioned you spend 95% of the time in the larger of the 2 rings anyway - and as the rings are n/w - a front derailleur is no use - I would simply stop - move the chain to the smaller front ring by hand - then pedal up the hill. Once at the top I’d stop and move it back. My wife has solved her problem with the hills by getting a used e-bike as her mtb has a 7 speed freewheel and cannot be upgraded. I’m hoping to sell that one for a few euros when we are back in France next May.
@michaelhayward7572
Жыл бұрын
Difficult to find a 30T with a 104 BCD...
@michaelruelle5508
Жыл бұрын
Got the IRD Vortex for my bike for randoneuring. I am loving the step down to 46/30 for more spinning up those climbs.
@severs1966
Жыл бұрын
The Velo-Orange crank is a copy of the very long-established and super-high quality TA crank. TA pattern chainrings are still widely available new. 94 BCD dates back to Suntour "Microdrive", originally manufactured by Sugino (the most popular model being the Impel).
@PathLessPedaledTV
Жыл бұрын
TA rings aren't "widely available" in the US. Literally one dealer with no online shop, who you have to order thru the phone or email.
@oheso
Жыл бұрын
Sugino OX2, which fits a modern (Shimano 24mm) bottom bracket. I'm running a 44-30. Apparently it can go as low as 27 on the inner ring. Very happy.
@turboseize
Жыл бұрын
The Sun and the René Herse look nice. I am missing a Stronglight triple, though! They look nice, and with the triple, offer plenty of range. So you can have a bailout to get you up really steep and loose stuff, a medium ring (39 up to 42) to spend most of the day in and a big ring that is actually useful downhill or with a tailwind (i.e. not smaller than 50). Z-Light triple looks particularly gorgeous and slightly retro. I am currently undeicided whether I should re-use my grandfathers Nuvo Record for my randonneur restauration (but that would necessity finding smaller rings - 56/42 seem a bit impractical once climbing or hauling stuff is involved), or whether I should go the triple route.
@millcreekhomestead1386
7 ай бұрын
The Spa cranks strongly resemble Middleburn. I've been happy with my Middleburns but they have become difficult to source in the USA.
@faz723
Жыл бұрын
You were running the Sugino OX 601/901 cranks many years ago! Can run almost any combination with them (110/74) - 89 pounds for the spa cranks - currently 108 dollars..
@chrisgress4086
Жыл бұрын
I run a XT 10 speed double crank, 26-36. It works well with my 11-42 cassette on the rear with a Microshift rear.
@Martin-on2pp
Жыл бұрын
Most cranksets inspired by Stronglight from France. I had one, really great. Not anymore, I ride a Santos Travel Light with Rohloff.
@jonathanbenn2241
Жыл бұрын
Square tapper, on two Surly(s), each with 10,000 miles plus!
@charlesmansplaining
Жыл бұрын
I want to try some of those Rene'Herse double cranks they claim are compatible with modern 11 speed and Di2. I currently use a 50-34 Shimano 9000 Dura-Ace and it seems perfect. I'm willing to drop to the 48-33 I guess. As you say, the larger rings are just a remnant of an old era. I've heard that a common problem with riders of the old days was they blew out their knees and other problems from the big gearing. I'm not a racer and don't do group riding so this crankset might make cycling even more enjoyable.
@pinonoir7287
Жыл бұрын
Will you ever do a re-print of those 'thesupplelife' stickers? The ones with the white lettering on the transparant background? Those were great!
@PathLessPedaledTV
Жыл бұрын
Yes. In the works.
@SurpriseMeJT
Жыл бұрын
Another vote for 110/74 cranksets. Stronglight Impact triple for example. Use a longer spindle bb to use as a double (using only small/middle rings). For chainrings, look at the company called Specialities T.A. Thankfully by being in France, I find an endless supply of Specialities T.A. rings on the used market for cheap.
@ehounshell
Жыл бұрын
what's the best French online marketplace?
@lunam7249
Жыл бұрын
yep 110/74 mm BDC lots of choices!
@ericcornell3243
Жыл бұрын
"aspirational gears" is the perfect way to describe 50x11. Lol.
@jonahbert111
Жыл бұрын
I have a 54T chainring that works just great on my Zizzo folding bike with 20" wheels. LOL The Liberte model comes with a hollow crank, 8 spd cassette.
@christopherdavis8967
Жыл бұрын
I have the Rene Herse and the WI VBC and they're both worth every dollar they cost
@VeloObscura
Жыл бұрын
Any issues shifting a big jump like 26-42? Never tried it..... Perhaps front mech choice is important? I've been thinking about going back to square taper for a while now.... Aside from the options you've just listed, I feel like they might be more reliable too....
@matthewguenther6925
Жыл бұрын
26-42 is the same jump as a 34-50 compact, there is not an issue with that. That said, most road front mechs are made with a 50T chainring diameter in mind, so they look a little wonky with a 42T, though they still work.
@lunam7249
Жыл бұрын
it should fit front derailler..or adjust it little
@vasiliipopov416
Жыл бұрын
US cyclists in 2022: there are some alternative options other than shimano/sram! Cyclists from poor countries: ordering parts from aliexpress since 2010, because Shimano doesn't even let you order cool stuff to these countries.
@keithjenkins7919
Жыл бұрын
Buy from Spa regularly, brillant organistaion, great stuff unavaible elswhere
@cliffmcleroy8168
Жыл бұрын
I just wish more cranks we're offered with closer ratios. A 46/30 is equivalent in spacing to a 60/39! For general riding in rolling hills, a 10-12 tooth spread would be so much more useful. A 40/30 or 42/32 would be ideal.
@SuperEightOneEight
Жыл бұрын
nice review....but from where im at..these cranks u mention are hard to get...shimano is the easier option and plentiful of range easily available here...ive been riding shimano for almost 35 years...they never let me down , super durable and ultimate reliability
@SMenkveld
Жыл бұрын
Just gonna chime in here with another post advocating for a 45/42/24-30 half-step + granny. And, yes, I mean that with an 11+ speed rear. The 10/11-46/50 cassettes make an almost perfect 7% half-step with either a 45/42 or 42/39 up front. --Shannon
@chris1275cc
Жыл бұрын
Its worth mentioning because I don't think Spa-cycles ship internationally that their cranksets are err...lets go with "inspired" by Strong-light cranks from France that are more widely available and pretty cheap themselves. People that want something that looks a bit less traditional for modern looking/Carbon bikes might want to consider: Miche Graff - 24mm HTII style spindle, 48/32T or 46/30T really cheap and worth considering if using a modern Shimano road system (especially Di2) as its basically GRX without the stupid offset that requires a new front mech) Praxis Works ALBA - Loads of options but smallest on offer is 32T and overpriced IMO given you have to use their BB's and they are mediocre at best. ROTOR (Too many options to list multiple chainline and spindle options, smallest rings being 46/30T) The also offer oval rings if you are a fan of snake oil and magic beans 😜 SUGINO OX2-901D- 24mm HTII spindle 110/74 bcd so no limits really they do have a bit of an "FSA" look about them in black but they are amazing cranks.
@PathLessPedaledTV
Жыл бұрын
To my knowledge Spa ships internationally. The others are fine but only the Sugino offers sub sub compact gearing.
@chris1275cc
Жыл бұрын
@@PathLessPedaledTV Yeah my mistake seems like its just bigger stuff like frames and wheels they wont ship international. Strong-light might still be the cheaper option if you can find them domestically or through a bigger company that is willing to swallow more of the shipping costs though.
@jeffandersen6233
Жыл бұрын
Great content and food for thought. I love these "small cranks as they provide loads of cruising gears and no having to walk gears. I recently tried a bike with a 50/34 and mostly used the 34. A 44 big ring would have been perfect. I wonder about the big jump shifting though. Any issues with 14 or 16 tooth jumps?
@jamese8508
Жыл бұрын
Sugino OX!!! Expensive, modern crankset with wide selection of teeth. Sugino Q factor is 145, comparable to Shimano or SRAM road. Some, such as White Industries, are considerably wider. MTB double is, of course, much wider.
@SeanKeesler
Жыл бұрын
42 & 26t Spécialités TA Pro 5 Vis rings worked great for me on the VO Grand Cru cranks.
@PathLessPedaledTV
Жыл бұрын
Were u able to reuse the VO crank bolts or did you have to order $80 worth of bolts to make it work?
@SeanKeesler
Жыл бұрын
@@PathLessPedaledTV I bought the bike used... So I didn't have to... Not sure if that was required in the initial build...
@JonPrevost
Жыл бұрын
I don't like this trend. I'm a big guy. I like straight chains. I wish we had quad-cranks! One of the reasons I like my 600cc motorcycle more than my 1000cc was the fact that I had to shift. I like shifting. It's the idea of mastering the machine. Joking aside, I do think a triple crank is still worth it and that the economy of smaller profits is the REAL reason they are disappearing, not because they are "better" in performance. I also liked how the big ring was a bashguard. You still had your normal and still a bailout. I absolutely LOVE my older 105 triple groupset on my old 2006 Allez. I have more cycles than days in the week which includes a couple 1x, a single speed, 2 triples, and the rest doubles. If I had to choose, triple hands down. The only trick is the learning curve. Get in the correct front ring for the upcoming slope, done, it's that damn easy. Oh, and get used to moving the rear shifter into the middle of the cassette WHILE shifting the front. Problem solved! The doubles are easier to not make a big mistake, because it's leff often, but you can feel the chain getting angry when 200lb are jumping on the 175mm crank arms up an 8% grade.
@jonfinney9415
Жыл бұрын
@8:06 there is no derailleur. Do you just use the big ring like 95% of the time and manually shift it over if you get to a long climb?
@agelaonsoikea
Жыл бұрын
I'm happy with 28-38 set up or a single ring 38 crank. Cassette is 11-46 but I never use 11t cog.
@fordbailey8173
Жыл бұрын
50.4 rings are readily available in sizes from 26 to 50 teeth.
@PathLessPedaledTV
Жыл бұрын
Not in the US. I can’t think of a single bike shop that has them in the store.
@michaelviglianco6121
5 ай бұрын
I'll do one further and say just use a triple for these types of bikes if you aren't trying to compete in anything
@grahamogle6332
Жыл бұрын
I was just looking at the Spa Cycles website when you mentioned them. No connection to them, just a satisfied customer. Have used their cranksets for many years without any problems in both traditional triple ratios and in lower "useful" ratios.
@boathemian7694
Жыл бұрын
I’ve made do with a cheap 30/44 tooth on my old cyclogravel bike but that 38/24 would makes the hills a bit easier
@singletona082
Жыл бұрын
I've literally got soeme sorta probably a thousand diff names but mine's an 'action' crankset. Cheap, let me go fro ma stamped single piece crankset on my walmart bike, to something where I could go down to a 32t, which made a worldo f diffrence for me.
@buyung94
Жыл бұрын
U forget about some brand. There's still middleburn, available in taper or external bb. And dixna la crank available in external bb. They over some wide variety of tooth combination from compact to speedy side.
@PathLessPedaledTV
Жыл бұрын
Like I said, talking about cranks I've personally tried or have good familiarity with.
@JAnn319
Жыл бұрын
SHIMANO has huge recalls!!
@davidhale1568
Жыл бұрын
Spa cycles is a great shop if your ever in the uk well worth a visit, also check out St. John street cycles in the uk has a good web site just wish we had REI over here😊
@robertpatrick3350
Жыл бұрын
Did I miss a mention of Middleburn’s?
@cjones7854
Жыл бұрын
I'm curious what crank length you run Russ and do you run a different length on your MTB vs your drop bar stuff? Lots of people seem to be going shorter which I am considering.
@PathLessPedaledTV
Жыл бұрын
Usually a 170 but should prob be on a 165.
@NeilHodges
Жыл бұрын
Great list! Have you heard of the TA Carmina? I have that on one bike and it's pretty cool. Oh, and Middleburn is also awesome.
@PathLessPedaledTV
Жыл бұрын
I have but haven’t used them personally so I didn’t list it.
@leissp1
Жыл бұрын
Take a look at Specialties TA for lots of options worth try in my opinion.
@meyers6622
4 ай бұрын
What new light touring road bikes offer gear inch around 20”, rim brakes, around $1k USD?
@lookinforanick
Жыл бұрын
In fairness to Shimano tho, to the best of my knowledge they are still producing the trekking Deore triple (48-36-26 native) that you can scale down to 44-32-22 which is what I have on my touring bike paired with miche 10s cassettes in either 13-29 or 13-30.
@PathLessPedaledTV
Жыл бұрын
Triples are fine but not my favorite. Two much shifting. Why bother with a 3x when you can achieve the same with a 2x.
@lookinforanick
Жыл бұрын
@@PathLessPedaledTV There are trade-offs in any set up. To achieve the same gear ratio as a 22:29 with a 30 chainring you need a 40 cog so you will need a cassette with quite some gaps and need to find the proper combo of derailleur and levers (did I mention that I tour with STIs, heresy!, I know). I personally prefer having to bother with one more shift at the front and have narrower gaps at the back.
@giuseppegreco2214
Жыл бұрын
excuse everyone i would like to use a sub compact crankset from spa cycles with a 40/24 teeth and match it with microshift R9 components the question is: what kind of front derailleur can i use?
@RICHARD.WRIGHT1
Жыл бұрын
Square taperes unfotunately has the bearings inside the shell and therefore is less stiffer and less stable than a BB with external cups and bearing further apart, even if a threaded type. I agree though those old style cranks are more nostalgic and we see to little of those designs these days!
@PathLessPedaledTV
Жыл бұрын
BB stiffness is severely over rated. For the average rider who isn't racing competitively its a non issue. Unlike external BBs, they also last a long time without any servicing.
@SMenkveld
Жыл бұрын
Unless it negatively affects handling, stiffness is not a significant, or even measurable, factor in bicycle performance.
@lunam7249
Жыл бұрын
BB "stiffness" means your in a gear to high(low RPM) , go higher RPM....you should NEVER feel "flex" unless your an olympic or tour de france guy!!! frame "stiffness" is completely life and death important...stiffer is better, but you will vibrate your teeth out unconfortable after 1 hour!!!
@PathLessPedaledTV
Жыл бұрын
@@lunam7249 Frame stiffness is another over rated bike industry lie.
@lunam7249
Жыл бұрын
@@PathLessPedaledTV while i completely agree with you about the marketing bullshit involved with big bike companys.....im ex olympic.....for people who can leg press over 10 x 45 pound plates you will DEFINATELY feel ALL BIKES FLEXING!!! some more than others.....
@MrDonaldstepp
9 күн бұрын
So square taper is not obsolete like I was lead to believe?
@PathLessPedaledTV
9 күн бұрын
It was all lies.
@XanderSoriano
Жыл бұрын
Hi @pathlesspedaled. Any long term thoughts re the IXF crankset you used from your last 2x conversion video?
@cesargarcia5974
Жыл бұрын
What you your all's thoughts on Easton Cranks with the cinch 4 bolt road spider adapter so you could put smaller chainrings?
@marcosmartija7877
Жыл бұрын
Where can we access this discord server and list?
@mikemclennan8917
Жыл бұрын
Becoming a patron on Patreon gives access to Discord.
@outtatrex
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, great stuff !
@ilikewasabe
Жыл бұрын
How about converting a triple ixf to a 2x 42-22 mtb cranks. It won’t be as aesthetically pleasing to look at but it works and cheap
@PathLessPedaledTV
Жыл бұрын
I did a whole video on that.
@spektrumB
Жыл бұрын
A mountain double 38/26 is my preference.
@darrylriley9917
Жыл бұрын
Hi Russ if you’re running a 40/24 what is the biggest rear cassette you can run with out too much hassle?
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