At least when you installed the 2nd motor you were moving extra fast. 😂
@elBusDriverKC
Жыл бұрын
Had a compressor bad out of the box once. Many choice words were said after installing it and finding that out. Windings were fine, but it was bound up inside. Three phase so I even rocked it backwards briefly and no luck. Used a crane to get it on the roof and everything.
@HVACGUY
Жыл бұрын
Dang, and your estimate sure as hell don’t include doing it twice.
@elBusDriverKC
Жыл бұрын
@@HVACGUY Certainly not. Definitely had to do some negotiating with the manufacturer. Still ate a lot of the labor cost....
@Tim_Takacs
3 ай бұрын
For awhile in the 1990's Copeland was having all kinds of problems with the compressors. We go to the point where we'd OHM them on the dock before ever signing for them, in the box still and we'd make the warehouse guys take them out lol.
@Bill_CBR
Ай бұрын
Nice video, I'm guessing you're glad you picked up 2 of those motors. Wow, Milwaukee sure is proud of that light of yours. Milwaukee Electric Tool Redlithium Usb Stick Light
@davidca96
9 ай бұрын
In my line of work we use RF amplifiers and there was a time we were getting brand new models with screws missing/flopping around in them, bad signal, I have had that same frusteration.
@josem2468
Жыл бұрын
As a retired electrician when check your power at the plug good habit is to check on the motor side of the plug. Just saying.
@zack79tampa32
Жыл бұрын
Curtis keeping it real!
@RadioReprised
Жыл бұрын
Never seen a goofy handler location/installation as that....but bad out of the box, that seems to be pretty common now that any idiot can get a job and quality control doesn't exist!
@jenko701
Жыл бұрын
PSC all the way .
@weaverp1
11 ай бұрын
Could you have disconnected the blower power and run the HP in heat mode to get that ice started melting?
@search_eternal
Жыл бұрын
Stuff today is garbage. Stuff back in the 60's, 70's and 80's seemed to last longer. I have some customers that have air handlers from the 80's still going strong.
@Randall-mt7jk
7 ай бұрын
I have a 1965 southwest furnace, replaced blower motor and gas control in 1993 cleaned burners recently, its still going strong !
@williamjosephbc17Q
6 ай бұрын
it was all done on purpose... part of the green new deal depopulation plan
@fernandobazan829
Жыл бұрын
Who do you charge for the EXTRA labor? curious what’s failing in the module got to be some diode or transistor anyway to get the schematic to trouble shoot it?
@jeffbecker9809
3 ай бұрын
I will say the motor manufacturer needs better quality control in their quality control dept. That is really sad a new motor out the box was bad.
@92fsoakcreek
Жыл бұрын
Go to 10:00 and see if that second connector wasn't crooked. Looks can be deceiving.
@jamesfitzsimmons381
Жыл бұрын
Looks like the left molex connector sticking out more than the other half of harness
@elBusDriverKC
Жыл бұрын
I agree it looks possibly not fully inserted however it looks like maybe that was corrected before the motor was tested again. Around 11:05 it looks like it was pushed in further.
@MariosACandRefrigeration
Жыл бұрын
maybe checking power on the motor side?
@HVACGUY
Жыл бұрын
Guys, keep watching, when I try the second time it is fully plugged in.
@MariosACandRefrigeration
Жыл бұрын
14:47 looks better than 10:20@@HVACGUY
@kg4muc
Жыл бұрын
That’s just not called for. Quality control non existent! They need to switch vendors on the motors
@Vaticider69
11 ай бұрын
Quality control is a thing of the past....
@hugh007
11 ай бұрын
Not uncommon lately. particularly vehicle parts. Very frustrating.
@Randall-mt7jk
7 ай бұрын
Everything is Chinese!
@leonardvavra9493
Жыл бұрын
Chinese crap ?
@stevencossaboon3237
Жыл бұрын
Nice work Curtis. Quality control just doesn't exist anymore I guess.
@YukonHawk1
11 ай бұрын
Exactly!! They slap shit together with spit and chewed gum and don't care.
@MAGAMAN
Жыл бұрын
I'm old enough to remember when you could go to the store and buy something and just expect it to work because it's new. Of course, everything wasn't made by chinese slave labor back then.
@joerusso4645
11 ай бұрын
I remember buying the Janitrol front breather, which was this same unit back in the 90s for about $225. I would install them and never have to go back other than possibly a backed up drain. It is so sad what has happened to quality. I would say that half of our service calls are to units under manufactures warranty.
@gabrielstern4992
Жыл бұрын
Curtis sounds and looks like it is time for you to buy a purchase a heat gun or hairdryer to keep on your truck so you can quickly defrost all that ice from the blower motor not working.
@TechnologyRescue
23 күн бұрын
I was going to ask, is that ice?
@jaygosch8705
Жыл бұрын
Glad the second one worked. If it was me, I would have taken the second one out of the box and straight in the house and just plugged it into the connectors to see if it was good before going through the work again to install it. Hopefully this doesn't keep happening to you with new motors of that brand. And nice to see your doggie at the end 😊
@harrydickson4575
Жыл бұрын
Looks like there’s no more quality control. Great job. 👍👍👍
@Garth2011
Жыл бұрын
No surprise there ! The ECM module thermistor failed like they always do...a $2 part soldered onto the ECM board. Try the Evergreen or US Motors brand.
@HVACGUY
Жыл бұрын
Was a warranty job, otherwise I would’ve.
@Garth2011
Жыл бұрын
@@HVACGUYOh yes, I neglected that. Evergreen are self learning on rotation and come with an adapter cable for "communicating" b.s. Also, they are made by the new Gentec but all redesigned I think.
@CplHardin89
Жыл бұрын
Studmount Airhandlers and pancake units are terrible! Never understood why they are even in existence. If you have room for a stud mount you have room for an normal air handler.
@billsimpson604
Жыл бұрын
I think you might have discovered the answer to global warming.
@Ander5806
Жыл бұрын
It's not Goodman I have had the same problem with Trane, Lennox and Rheem AHU with this type of motor and the motors had different manufacturers maybe there all made by the same factory in another country ? All because the government wants us to be more Green and putting more regulations on the HVAC & R Industrie
@maxwellsmart3156
5 ай бұрын
Exactly what does bad quality control and everything made in China have to do with being more energy efficient and regulations?
@Ander5806
5 ай бұрын
@@maxwellsmart3156 You must not be in the field every day.And none of this new equipment are energy efficient (just junk) that is just what the government and manufacturer's wants you to Believe it's a money maker for then both the power to run them comes from somewhere ?? And quality Control that is a joke what quality Control even better for China, if China is making them more money for them more trouble for us and higher cost to replace and or repair. Come out on a high efficiency equipment repair job sometime we are not going green just the manufacturer and the government there making more green i mean money' but you are fee to believe anything you want just walk in my shoes and see how much it cost the people that can not afford the price of the quality Control problems as you say, have a great weekend
@ThomasWalker-m2y
Жыл бұрын
Goodman will give you credit hours added to your account off you next purchase. How do i know well let's just say Cina motors failures.
@MariosACandRefrigeration
Жыл бұрын
take the module out the new motor,we won"t look.thanks for sharing
@Bass.Player
Ай бұрын
That's probably whats bad.
@rtoweprojects9072
Жыл бұрын
Who ever designed that motor should be fired. In all my years of HVAC work I've never seen such a sorry motor. I've seen them bad right out of the box. If it was mine I'd put a regular blower motor on.
@Garth2011
Жыл бұрын
Its the ECM or board that goes out, one cheap part, a thermistor. The mechanical part or the motor is always just fine. Just like any other motor that decides to quit, its not the motor, its the cheap ass bearings they use.
@HVACGUY
Жыл бұрын
It was a warranty job
@HobbyOrganist
11 ай бұрын
Yeah! what ever happened to just a regular PLAIN electric motor that just has the case, stator and rotor without all the electronic crap in the end cap?? the less crap in there the better, I'd take that junk motor out and look into replacing it with an ordinary single speed motor
@Garth2011
11 ай бұрын
@@HobbyOrganistThe stupid folks in high political places simply do not accept the facts about electric motors as they are today. That is they are about 60% efficient meaning 40% of the power used is wasted. So, they force industry to use technology that is not reliable nor good for long service and very expensive, in many cases 10 times the cost of a PSC motor. Add to all of this that most things are made in PRC or China so the quality is limited.
@mikedillon6233
Жыл бұрын
Curtis, you're gonna stick them for the extra time That it took to do it twice, right?
@jamesfitzsimmons381
Жыл бұрын
Curtis hinspect notice white main molex plug doesn’t look like good connection
@HVACGUY
Жыл бұрын
Keep watching, when I try it again, it is.
@jamesfitzsimmons381
Жыл бұрын
@@HVACGUY. Curtis I see you checking the one side of the plug but not the other side of it ( load side. Not to disagree with you sir. You were there not be
@stephenbierlein2517
Жыл бұрын
Good man does not make a motor . Have a great day.
@warrenm374
Ай бұрын
Does a bad man make a motor
@stevendebiasi428
Жыл бұрын
Lucky you had 2 motors
@187blacmagic
Жыл бұрын
HELP PLEASE I need advice!!!! I have a ttx730a100a3 with the O.D mot (1) 1.4FLA, 200/230V, 1 PH , 60HZ , 1.5HP. This seems impossible to find I have found 2 but they seem to be a bit different one is MOT18923, and the other is MOT03031. Can you point me in the direction of a model # that would work with this model AC please
@rickknosky6547
Жыл бұрын
You can use a service valve wrench on the squirrel cage square bolt head
@mikec555555
3 ай бұрын
I have a question no one seems to have the answer for - all automobile evaporators have a temperature sensor attached to the evaporator coil that will shut off the compressor if it gets too cold to prevent icing. So why do residential evaporators not have this feature?
@YobieTheQuestioner
11 ай бұрын
@10:20, It's looks like the connectors are not fully seated after the new motor was connected. Is it just me? Either way, it's worked on the second motor 🙂
@jagfandaddy2878
Жыл бұрын
The more I watch your channel the more I know I never want a Goodman
@acrservicesmathewr7565
Жыл бұрын
Geo thermal all the way
@Garth2011
Жыл бұрын
Not a Goodman issue...the motor manufacturer
@AustinAirCo
Жыл бұрын
Motors aren't made by equipment manufacturers. Mechanical equipment breaks regardless of the brand, if not there would be no video to watch. You see Goodman alot because they are probably the biggest manufacturer there is in terms of units per badge brand. Carrier might be the biggest but they make more brand names than any other manufacturer. The brand game is merely to dupe those that don't know better. All of us who have run HVAC service have gotten a bad motor out of the box before. This isn't some *new* thing. Goodman brands are Amana, Daikin, Goodman & GMC but they haven't been making GMC since the pandemic. Of course you can always drink koolaid of other brands, they'll be happy to baptize you in tomfoolery.
@michaelhediger9088
Жыл бұрын
It happens. I happen to like Goodman easy to install and easy to service for me
@AllTattedUp13
Жыл бұрын
Goodman don't break down near as much as carrier units do. And carrier parts are hella expensive.
@RossTheGenMan
Жыл бұрын
on the first motor.. one of he plug didn't look like it was in? You had another video in a unit like this.. what are all those doors on the wall behind the HVAC unit?
@LilYeshua
Жыл бұрын
Doggo
@jenko701
Жыл бұрын
Got to buy two to get one .
@stevenl.rollins7978
11 ай бұрын
Some days you get the bear and other days the bear gets you!! No quality control at all.
@billlaporte8255
Жыл бұрын
hi Riley
@rkochair
Жыл бұрын
Curtis you should have just removed the endbell of the bad motor and threw on the new one. Motor was fine just the electronics were bad......saves time.
@sergiohernandez4163
Жыл бұрын
Hey Curtis of the subject from this video. Have you came across any American standard or any other brand gas package unit with loud bang when starts and shuts down. We have some costumers complaining about it. We have tried changing motor and fan blade with out any luck.
@muniznick
Жыл бұрын
Wonder why those apt style ahu are used, from my pricing they are more expensive than a regular ahu and a lot harder to work on.
@davidaustin9009
10 ай бұрын
Well I will tell you from working an apartment maintenance job.i would much rather have a wall mount unit to work on.over an over the tub model .that one sucks...
@robalexander7348
Жыл бұрын
That was very unfortunate Curtis, a faulty new motor, these things do happen eventually 🤔 Au
@TOONMAN200
Жыл бұрын
I'm a retired handyman, my biggest fear was getting a defective part. The big problem was I had to eat the labor to replace the new defective part.
@chuckquinn8026
Жыл бұрын
Can you say “class action lawsuit”?
@clintgray1623
Жыл бұрын
Almost all x13 motors are bad
@DennisDuffy-n8g
Жыл бұрын
Now your certainly an expert on those motors 👍
@kevinkrug466
Жыл бұрын
The last part I had bad outta the box was a gas valve for an old rheem. I feel your pain
@realestateservicessaleshea99
Жыл бұрын
😊👍🏻🍺🍺🍺🥃🥃🥓🇺🇲
@Tim_Takacs
3 ай бұрын
I am NOT a fan of those ECM motors. Never have been. Carrier was having problems with them in the mid 90s and then you could not just replace the ECM you had to replace then entire motor. Give me an old fractional HP motor any day. 1/5 - 3/4 used to be about 35 - 40.00 back in the day, not any more. Crazy because they are still made like junk. Not like the 1978-1985 time frame. Yup, I'm an old tech that got into Chillers. Hope you let that thaw natural like. I've had new motors taken out by running with ice. P.S. I do like watching you repair stuff. The key word is REPAIR! Everyone wants to replace with a 7 or 8 times mark up on residential stuff. Amazing to me. What used to cost about 3-4000.00 (5 Ton) turn key is now 17 to 20,000.00 which screws someone my age totally over. Pay 200.00 per month for life LOL. Anyway GOOD JOB !
@OnusBones
Жыл бұрын
I wonder if I should refer to our new (just 2 years old) Goodman as a "Droneman" instead. Those motors aren't cheap.
@boatingcharlie1
22 күн бұрын
My 30 year old Lennox system is still running. I assume the reason they went to these kinds of motors is to save electricity. The price of a new motor will buy a lot of electricity, I'll keep my old inefficient system.
@ervingoss5442
Жыл бұрын
Poor QC on the manufactures side. Also, the apartment complex builders must have bought these units on the cheap.
@gnuorder
Жыл бұрын
I thought the ECM modules were replaceable so you didn't have to pull the whole fan? At any rate, it may be wise to get tester and test them out of the box.
@HVACGUY
Жыл бұрын
Not on these
@mattthomas1217
Жыл бұрын
Over here near chicago they don't sell just the modules anymore cause the manufacturer was loosing money. Now they sell everything together.
@andyvitz
Жыл бұрын
Okay if you want a personal opinion I don't know if you noticed this but when you before you even took this apart there was a red wire that look like it should have been installed in the plastic connection so that might be what happened here
@hvacsteve2o9
Жыл бұрын
Luckily you had another x13 good work I enjoy your videos I’ve been in the field for 17 years now and I still enjoy watching you. Good stuff
@tonyrhoton6613
11 ай бұрын
Milwaukee Rover pivoting cat # 2114-21 buy this more than likely u won't use your others is small in size usb charging u can get Xtra battery has clip and strong magnet after 27 yrs. Of trying lights this is the best I've used.
@stvargas150
11 ай бұрын
Used to make this unit for goodman factory had to put in 12 screw every 3 seconds for electric heater. what's about quantity, not quality at this factory. Now Goodman makes it in Mexico.
@josem2468
Жыл бұрын
Milwaukee #2128-21 at HD for $79 also additional 3ah red lithium at $29.
@markjones7268
Жыл бұрын
Well. I remember back in the 80’s that new parts would be defunct. Happens. Transistors, capacitors, and on and on. Bound to happen once in a while. Just a pain in the derrière. Thanks fir sharing about the Milwaukee light. Appreciate it!.
@chrisgreen177
9 ай бұрын
Looks like your local parts supplier is selling a lot of motors that come from a place with substandard 'Quality Control'.
@DanT271
Жыл бұрын
She’s a frosty one mama!
@raynman2742
11 ай бұрын
Live in Southern California and unfortunately deal with this a lot. Not a fan of Goodman equipment. But they pay the bills.
@twincam825
5 ай бұрын
Seams like these company's are manufacturing pure ass junk.
@andyvitz
Жыл бұрын
Okay cuz if this froze up because it was low on freon that might have actually pulled that wire out and that's why I brought it up
@tedhicks5431
11 ай бұрын
I got a feeling a new packard generic inducing assembly motor is bad on 2 wires smoked the circuit board always something
@jong2359
11 ай бұрын
10:00 - The problem is you didnt even plug the wiring loom in properly on the first motor. You can see it is clearly not seated properly, especially when compared to 14:11 . Jagaloon.
@7311andrew
Ай бұрын
Also I would have tested the new motor before i installed it in the squirrel cage.
@edjansen6096
11 ай бұрын
My company sells Goodman and never have this many problems with the blowers. You need to remember that Goodman doesn’t make the motors
@Cg41418
10 ай бұрын
I’ve installed a lot of Goodman units with no issues. The quality control on all the brands has gone down. So you can’t say one way or the other. I do however, think a fan motor on a new unit is unusual.
@hinspect
Жыл бұрын
I hate to make a sour comment but if you play back the video, that first motor wasn't plugged in all the way (16:07) on the large white connector. The side with the white wire especially. I played it back a couple of times and it looked crooked or maybe it's my Brain!😂 Thanks for the Video 👍
@jamesfitzsimmons381
Жыл бұрын
hinspect. I see it too. Very good catch😊
@acrservicesmathewr7565
Жыл бұрын
Yes me2, that’s the communicating side, which will cut in and out if not in properly
@HVACGUY
Жыл бұрын
Actually if you’ll play for just a sec you’ll see I caught that and the second try it was firmly plugged in.
@ABC-wz2db
10 ай бұрын
Bad motor caused icing or icing caused bad motor? I hear poor static pressures/airflow can cause premature failure of ecm.
@davidaustin9009
10 ай бұрын
How many times have you had a brand new motor or board be bad..right out of the box?? And is that why it's best to buy two at a time when buying parts for a job?
@Yukonjackman1
2 ай бұрын
It can happen could be 25 or a hundred bad it's manufactured
@btu64
27 күн бұрын
It's too bad that guys who built that motor don't care about their work as much as you do
@paulhickey4485
Жыл бұрын
Hate those units. Really need to go back to psc motors. They are no benefit to consumers
@7311andrew
Ай бұрын
If the unit was a heat pump putting it in the heat mode would have melted the ice.
@OuryLN
Ай бұрын
You like your job so much that you did it twice!🤓
@dww-fromnc
6 ай бұрын
That sucked big time!!! Hello Riley.
@HobbyOrganist
11 ай бұрын
At my workplace, we had a Gibson furnace combustion air blower's bearings go bad, repair guy replaced it with a new one and it immediately sounded like the rotor or fan was scraping big time, so he sent it back to the distributor, got a 2nd one- SAME problem! so he sent that back and went to another distributor and that one worked, so it took THREE tries to get one brand new fan that worked
@karellodewijks4971
Жыл бұрын
👍👍😊😊
@jericosha2842
Жыл бұрын
I could feel your pain.
@jedgeled759
Жыл бұрын
quality is job #4 !!!!
@Matts_Crafty
8 ай бұрын
what recording device are you using sir?
@Djcarp83
19 күн бұрын
Quality of parts are trashed
@scottmaz4063
Жыл бұрын
Good evening Curtis
@HVACGUY
Жыл бұрын
Good evening
@soundman6241
Жыл бұрын
I spent 30+ years as a 12 volt tech/shop owner (basically a auto electronics installer). Even before covid we noticed more defective products and worse tech support.
@HoneyBadger5540
2 ай бұрын
I love my job so much-I do it twice.
@jimbergen5232
2 ай бұрын
Dirty dog new product. :)
@TheManInaHat
10 ай бұрын
Went through a phase of this with lennox motors on odu
@hightttech
8 күн бұрын
Riley good looking pup
@Johnnyreengo
2 ай бұрын
what brand do you recommend?
@w.knudsen5570
6 ай бұрын
Re?inds me of getting parts in the army.
@naturekid1335
8 ай бұрын
I literally have to replace that same motor tomorrow
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