I loved that Astrid was a blue eyed blonde, because she held none of the blonde stereotypes! She was badass and fierce and intelligent!
@ProbablyHanzo420
Жыл бұрын
She was my crush as a kid x)
@_lunarC_
Жыл бұрын
@@ProbablyHanzo420same
@gugalldiznii383
Жыл бұрын
Holy shit that never hit me! Fr tho; she's one of my favorite characters
@EllsClone
Жыл бұрын
FR. most blondes in movies are dumb or brats but astrid done NONE of that!
@Ryan-gw3yv
Жыл бұрын
She held ALL the stereotypes of a VIKING though! :D (Even though Vikings were just pirates and not a specific oriented culture. Lot of misconceptions tbh.)
@twylanaythias
Жыл бұрын
It's even more blatant when you consider that all the human characters in "How to Train Your Dragon" are 'Vikings' - smallish isolated Norse clans who lived in a climate where days are short and often overcast. You won't even find Nordic people of that era with suntans, let alone anyone whose darker skin tone had become an ingrained genetic trait. Seriously... One of my favorite shows was Family Matters and I identified very strongly with Urkel, even though he's black and male (and I'm neither). What's with this infantile idiocy that claims that you can only identify with characters who 'look like you'?!?
@Film_Overload
Жыл бұрын
WONDERFUL EXAMPLE! 100% agree! I totally reject what they’re trying to push down our throats! Thanks for watching! :)
@user-xx6vy9ri8p
Жыл бұрын
Yes, at least The Last of Us was set up in modern America, so it was acceptable.
@Film_Overload
Жыл бұрын
@@user-xx6vy9ri8p Yes precisely. :)
@randomgeekcrap
Жыл бұрын
Buy your logic no actress can play Astrid sinse being white isn't just enough and the og actress voice is not Astrid
@Film_Overload
Жыл бұрын
@@randomgeekcrap That’s not what we’re saying. We’re saying that they should’ve at least cast someone that LOOKS like her instead of pulling the “diversity card”. By your logic, Star Wars fans should be boycotting their upcoming “Ahsoka” series, since Ashley Eckstein isn’t playing Ahsoka and instead is being played by Rosario Dawson (who is black). All we’re saying is that we want authenticity when it comes to adapting something stories and characters that already exists instead of changing things about it. :)
@strikezone23
Жыл бұрын
My biggest issue with the race swaps is when they mess with a culture in order to check the box. In this case they completely shattered not just the visual look of the character but bock the continuity of their world in order to seem “racially inclusive” and that is what really annoys me. It’s also why I don’t mind some other race swaps. Such as annabeth in the new PJO show coming out. While it does “check the box” and doesn’t look like the character, it still works in the continuity of the world. Basically movie studios need to stop trying to push the agendas and tell a compelling and consistent story.
@mollystratford9739
Жыл бұрын
Actually, I have done quite a lot of research on the people we call the Vikings. Other races were there, mixed among their people, particularly Middle Easterners and blacks. It is historically accurate to include a minority of other races in the film.
@ace-tris
Жыл бұрын
@@mollystratford9739but at the same time, why can’t they just include other races in the background? No need for the main characters to change.
@jasminepittman4364
Жыл бұрын
@@ace-trisBecasue poc don’t want to be “ background people” that’s the point.
@jasminepittman4364
Жыл бұрын
Black Vikings existed. Her being white or black doesn’t matter at all. But they could have kept the blonde hair and blue eyes
@ace-tris
Жыл бұрын
@@jasminepittman4364 poc? People of colour?
@ssxmba
7 ай бұрын
i blame the critics that are like: "oh my god, there are no other races shown in the movies"
@Film_Overload
7 ай бұрын
BINGO!! :)
@SecoOrlov
6 ай бұрын
It's like the mfs that always blackwashing anime characters. Like BRUH, the story takes place in a Japanese highschool, why should there be many races
@mutilatedpopsicles
5 ай бұрын
They're getting what they want, and it's ruining movies. We're going to keep getting this agenda bs as long as people keep watching it
@user-kt6yx7ox7z
3 ай бұрын
That doesn't make really sense
@porterwake3898
2 ай бұрын
But if the show is about something culturally relevant to blacks, a 100% black cast would be celebrated.
@christopherherr7561
Жыл бұрын
Hollywood loves the "We are absolved from any criticism otherwise you are racist" button.
@Film_Overload
Жыл бұрын
Got that right! They LOVE IT!
@dominushydra
Жыл бұрын
It doesn't make them any money so they must be insane
@ilovenightcrawler
Жыл бұрын
Exactly! I’m so tired of it.
@Anon1gh3
Жыл бұрын
@@dominushydra It makes them $billions of dollars with every remake. That used to be a huge milestone - not for disney. Numbers don't lie. People love this. Also it's all about CEI Soros brownie points now. None of these companies actually care. So there's your answer to the opening question on this video - WHY?
@demonfox51321
Жыл бұрын
I'm not racist if I hate everyone 😂
@Anne...Fiction
Жыл бұрын
Oh boy who's ready for live action Kung Fu Panda! They can finally cast Po as a human so all of us who are also humans can relate to him
@Film_Overload
Жыл бұрын
LOL, this is a brilliant comment! BIG thumbs up! :)
@Anne...Fiction
Жыл бұрын
@@Film_Overloadoh my God, thank you! I love your videos!!💖
@ashthepotato3172
Жыл бұрын
If they ever do a live action of Kung Fu Panda it HAS to star Jack Black man. I’ll riot if not 😂
@Film_Overload
Жыл бұрын
@@ashthepotato3172 😂😂
@bjornh4664
Жыл бұрын
@@ashthepotato3172 Jack in white-and-blackface.
@deathcharge5468
6 ай бұрын
Toothless is the only black character the movie needs
@Muidalac
4 ай бұрын
I second this
@Pharaoh_Tutankhamen
3 ай бұрын
I 62nd this
@user-kt6yx7ox7z
3 ай бұрын
Fr fr!!!
@ManicObsevations
Ай бұрын
Correct
@Animal_Fascts
Ай бұрын
They need to switch the colors with the queen of the nest and Toothless cause they have Toothless as blue and the queen as black
@haleyallred4662
11 ай бұрын
Gee I wonder what people would say if they made Tiana from The Princess and the Frog a blonde white girl in New Orleans when they made the live action adaptation
@Muidalac
4 ай бұрын
" Oh boy, would I?!" - Hollywood, probably.
@JustGav86
3 ай бұрын
People would be ripping that movie apart 😭
@Muidalac
3 ай бұрын
@@JustGav86 NAW cause who tf wouldn't??? 😭💔💔
@JustGav86
3 ай бұрын
@@Muidalac REAL LIKE-
@orianimations9763
3 ай бұрын
Fr tho
@DragonAsh16
Жыл бұрын
Leave Astrid alone! Leave HTTYD alone entirely! We don’t need a remake. Edit: sweet 1k likes that’s a first. Thank you.
@Film_Overload
Жыл бұрын
YES!! Leave it alone! :)
@princessarnasan3725
Жыл бұрын
Fax
@erikatamakloe
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I love it as is, we don’t need it to be live action!
@joshjo9405
Жыл бұрын
They already butchered it with the nine realms show, let's just not ruin the franchise even further.
@TheDarkLordoftheSiff
Жыл бұрын
@@joshjo9405 tell me about it
@morningrosie3684
Жыл бұрын
I hate race swaps. Astrid is Scandinavian. Make her look Scandinavian. It is a VERY key point in the movie that they are VIKINGS from somewhere COLD. I hate that I get labeled racist for being bothered by this, just because it makes no historical sense. Just stay true to her original design. If she were originally black, then I would have wanted her to be black in the remake. I just wish they’d keep characters consistent. To put it more simply, I don't freaking care what race a character is, as long as it stays true to the original design. Race swapping is a lazy way to add diversity. For example, I would absolutely LOVE to hear some African stories or tales, because I've never heard them before. Imagine how many cool stories there could be? I feel like I'm missing out on some amazing stories because they gotta be lazy and just race swap established characters instead of making new ones. You are completely right! You can relate to people of other races. I related to Mulan just fine, I didn’t even think about her race. I saw her for her. Hey, people even related to MEGAMIND, and he’s BLUE. I was raised on the idea to judge people not by color of their skin, but by content of their character. The fact that Hollywood doesn’t understand that just shows how shallow they are. But hey, is there ANYTHING more shallow than Hollywood? This is also unfair to incredibly skilled and awesome actors. When you shove someone into controversy like this, it does a number on their reputation. These actors could be off making some amazing movies, but instead they're put into a bunch of politically correct remakes.
@ShyVelociraptor
Жыл бұрын
im pretty sure i relate to some dinosaurs from the jurassic movies such as alpha female from jp3 and blue from jw and so on, like they got no excuse
@eriotosama
Жыл бұрын
I am hispanic and while I hate how much racism actually STILL exists, all of the issues I have to face gets silenced because so many people are tired of the label. Yes there are racist people. Yes, people like me have to face it all the time still, but these movies are doing people of colour and of different ethnicities no justice. It is NOT racist to be accurate with the depiction of certain characters or mythologies from regions that are white. STOP RACE SWAPPING. The way to do right by us is to create movies about stories from OUR cultures. You want to represent strong male or female hispanic heroes? CHOOSE some of the myths from hispanic/latino cultures. You want to represent strong black male or female characters from Africa? CHOOSE some of the heroes that come from tribes in Africa. THERE ARE A BUNCH of them. This has gotten ridiculous and has hurt people like me more than anything. HOW? Because when I speak up about actual RACISM in my life or community, I get told to shut the @#$#% up and stop playing the race card. ALL THIS IS DOING IS MAKING US FEEL EVEN MORE POWERLESS. But, like this message, no one is going to listen either.
@sakuracardcaptor4709
Жыл бұрын
@@eriotosama I’m Hispanic as well and I am angry and fed up with Racist Woke Hollywood! 😡
@kingvictor9105
Жыл бұрын
How do you know she is norsk she can be swedish or even danish
@uncleclaps44
Жыл бұрын
These people are also the same morons who scream when someone is not the ethnicity of the character they are voice acting but happy to tag along if its an ethnicity that clearly does not belong or is out of place.
@doyoueverwonderjustwhy2003
Жыл бұрын
I brought this up with my mother and we had a discussion, I was arguing about how we should keep Astrid as she is while my mother was arguing the point of “ it doesn’t matter we need more representation in the media “ I said that I would love a new character from a far of land with a different skin tone as it would add some variety and a new story line but I wouldn’t like Astrid to be race swapped because its unnecessary. She then said I was being racist because I cared so much about how a character looked. ( so did my brother who joined in to watch) and I must say it hurt so much to hear my own mother call me racist. I’m not , I just would like my favourite characters to stay how they are. She’s fine as she is and she’s a Viking. She’s supposed to look like that. My mother then said “ why does it matter, she’s only a character “. I then said that she’s not just a character, she’s a character that I look up to and she would not be Astrid without her signature looks: a side fringe and glowing pale skin. I can’t explain it but changing her hair and eyes would change her completely. Anyone could be a badass Viking with odd but amazing fashion Tate. But no one could be like Astrid other then Astrid. Looks included. Sorry for my rant, please like this comment so I know how many people have read this 😁👍
@Cole-ui8bi
11 ай бұрын
I agree with you. I wouldn't really mind if a character was race swapped I mean look at nick fury well in his case Samuel L Jackson was chosen for the role not because he's black he was chosen because they know that he'll nail the character. what I don't like is when the actor or actress was chosen because of his/her race or skin color
@GonkMaster_2024
8 ай бұрын
This happened to me and it probably changed how my parents feel about me.
@ashliepowers6181
6 ай бұрын
I'm 100% with you. I'm white but my family doesn't lack for diversity; we have Black, Japanese, and Mexican (yes, from Mexico). I would LOVE to see more stories from other backgrounds as long as they are well written instead of a quick pandering cash grab. Race swapping for the sake of race swapping kills all interest in a story. One of my favorite book series from my childhood recently got remade into a TV series. The main girl has Turkish and Scottish roots and they constantly talk about her dark hair and darker than average skin tone.... So they made her black instead of making her Middle Eastern, they cast a Black actress. Great job on true diversity!
@Smokey348
6 ай бұрын
its funny that she says you are being racist because you cared so much about how a character looked but she was the one that said ''we need more representation in the media'' which literally implies that she cares how people look like. Also little side note: Astrid doesn't have glowing pale skin, she has fair/light skin.
@ugn154
5 ай бұрын
I'm sorry that your mom is that narrow minded. Just keep trying to be better, despite what your family thinks. When it comes to entertainment, as hard as it can be, just keep it to yourself to avoid being hurt and discuss it only with people you can trust and know share your ideas and opinions.
@melatoninqueen6914
11 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. Tiana is my favorite Disney princess and I’m white, so I agree about the part about relating to characters who don’t look like you
@G00fystrxwberry_gnome
3 ай бұрын
Fr
@G00fystrxwberry_gnome
3 ай бұрын
But tiara is not my fav but that's your opinion
@user-kt6yx7ox7z
3 ай бұрын
Mine is Mulan and I'm white
@loka-chan6695
Ай бұрын
If Nico or a blonde actress played Tiana I whould also get ”HUH?” Cos Tiana is Tiana and Astrid is Astrid. Tho they can just give Nico a blonde wig.
@G00fystrxwberry_gnome
Ай бұрын
@@loka-chan6695 fr
@engirish1977
Жыл бұрын
The fact that people of colour are calling out this race swapping as well, really says something perhaps we are on the right side after all😊
@Film_Overload
Жыл бұрын
Because YOU ARE RIGHT. :)
@CriticalAuthor
Жыл бұрын
Oh, people did it for Disney as well. But you could also find plenty who defended it.
@divinelangene6813
Жыл бұрын
True, I'm black and I hate this race swap, it's so stupid
@Haywood2
Жыл бұрын
@@divinelangene6813 It feels like reverse white-watching. It is so stupid.
@marsfreelander5969
Жыл бұрын
Always have been
@UserFin
Жыл бұрын
Why do they have to constantly change an already well made and establish character for "diversity". Heck I'm a lesbian but I don't want to change an already established character to suddenly be lesbian. If you want a story to reach out to people showing them its great to be a certain race, ethnicity, gender or sexuality, don't mess with what's already been made. But instead make something new to show us we're all human. Great video man
@Film_Overload
Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for the kind words! and YES, If they want to make something "diverse" then they NEED to come up with something original instead of going back and changing stories and characters that people already love. :)
@user-eh5uw4eb7b
Жыл бұрын
This!!!
@thefinalfighter2578
Жыл бұрын
At this point I’m sure every time they want to reboot a franchise before even deciding anything about the movie or even have budget for it, they sit down for a cup of coffee to decide what existing character is go be more “diverse”
@dimancor2925
Жыл бұрын
The problem is, they just can't create something new, or if they do, it's crap character who nobody likes...
@Film_Overload
Жыл бұрын
@@dimancor2925 You’re SPOT ON! :)
@renealbrechtsen9743
Жыл бұрын
I was never excited about a live action adaptation, because we never needed one. Especially with how recent it is. And this is literally the one thing I was most worried about.
@thesuperiorhobgoblin9048
11 ай бұрын
The only reason I would be excited for it is because they could make it visually impressive in live action if they try but yeah, the point of an live action remake is to be as closely accurate to it's source as possible and maybe if done right, Improve little things here or there.
@DummyThiccccc
6 ай бұрын
it is the worst possible outcome. Like Astrid is probably the best written character outside of Hiccup and all it does is show that they are less worried about being faithful to the story and more worried about being "woke" or "diverse"
@renealbrechtsen9743
6 ай бұрын
@@DummyThicccccwell that's just hollywood in general, tbh. But yeah.
@tonuahmed4227
4 ай бұрын
If anything close to live action that I am accepting is the theatre version...not only they were truly LIVE and had actual action(acting and stunts) they also had some very realistic looking animatronic puppets of dragons(yes even the final boss one)...that is the closest I'll personally be accepting as live action...
@_Morri_
11 ай бұрын
To quote a Scandinavian friend of mine: "We should make a biopic about Martin Luther King here and have some blonde swede called Ragnar Gunnarsson play him." 😆
@FrogKanna
Жыл бұрын
As a Swedish person, it’s sad to see people discard other cultures and replace them with what is seen as woke. I remembered that they showed how to train your dragon in school as a fun way to show how our culture could have looked like. There were misrepresentations in the movie, but that’s for the sake of fantasy and such. It was a fun way to show Nordic culture and the characters played a huge part in it. It’s kinda similar with what they did with cleopatra as well. She was Macedonian Greek and almost all depictions of her show her with traditionally European features, yet instead they casted her as a black woman. I mean it’s very different as Astrid was a fictional character, but the change is still there. There’s also the fact that Cleopatra was a part of Egyptian history. Misrepresenting history like that is one of the most disrespectful things to do, especially to an entire country. Though At the time how to train your dragon takes place, you won’t see any darker skin tones. That’s because Vikings and such existed around the 1000-1100s. We didn’t have any people come look around Sweden, Denmark, Norway or Finland. People might say that because Astrid is a fiction character that it doesn’t matter, but it does. Nordic representation hasn’t been done often at all besides how to train your dragon and Frozen. It’s a tiny spec in the entertainment industry and it’s kinda frustrating see that they chose to take away what little we had. I loved Frozen when I was younger and how to train your dragon. There was a familiarity to it. I recognized clothing, the people and the landscape. It’s not like I will hate the movie because they race swapped a character, but with how infamously bad the past remakes have been, I might as well wait until the critics starting commenting on it before I watch. Edit: there’s a whole war in the comment section and it keeps growing. You have been warned
@EDuGoIHuvvet
Жыл бұрын
Fellow Swede here, and I agree 1000% with every word. Vikings are a very cultural thing, and this is just so fucking disrespectful of them.. It's basically all the somewhat accurate historical cultural representation we have when it comes to the entertainment industry. And now they're doing this to us? We Nordics are pretty much always portrayed in a satirical way, except for when it comes to the Vikings, and now we can't even have that? They are so wrapped up in the racial inclusivity that they completely forget that there are other cultures than American and African.. Kanske är orimligt förbannad på detta, men fy faan asså!
@hedgeowlinvest7902
Жыл бұрын
Frozen is going to black too haven’t you heard 😅
@dcspaladin7496
Жыл бұрын
@@EDuGoIHuvvetwhat's even worse is just how much they think they know about a culture and traditions. For example the misrepresentation of people from Africa and other countries, where we are seen as uncivilized and without culture which is completely false. Sorry for the rant. Context: living in Africa currently
@trolleriffic
Жыл бұрын
@@dcspaladin7496 Race swapping is also incredibly patronising and lazy. The studios are effectively saying "Hey look [minority group] we've made a character that's just like you... okay we couldn't be bothered doing the work to develop an existing minority character or create a new one and we don't believe you appeal to audiences enough, so we just swapped an existing character to leverage their familiarity with audiences." Let's have characters from other peoples and cultures, but do it by telling their stories instead of rehashing the same stuff over and over. The Little Mermaid has been done, and done brilliantly in the original animated film. If Disney wanted to tell the story of a black mermaid then they could base it on the folk tales and myths about mermaids from Africa or the Caribbean to share those cultures and their rich histories with the world... except that would require creativity and effort, and wouldn't be a (supposedly) easy cash-in.
@FrogKanna
Жыл бұрын
@@hedgeowlinvest7902 goddamnit.
@Ryou_Sensei
Жыл бұрын
I also just hope that they dont give Astrid a really cringy girl power scene in the live action. Like, Astrid was already the most badass and skilled woman of the group, but i bet they will end up giving her this scene that will just scream "Hey look, look how badass our female lead is, "GIRL POWER" am i right?"
@Film_Overload
Жыл бұрын
They’re gonna do it. You just know it
@fuzzywuzzy8679
Жыл бұрын
Astrid already had a lot of “girl power”, she was the best in their training class
@Film_Overload
Жыл бұрын
@@fuzzywuzzy8679 absolutely. She was already a bad ass
@benjaminthibieroz4155
Жыл бұрын
you wish...
@bucketofsunshine6366
Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, every male character will either be genderswapped out or downplayed to look like a bumbling fool. Can't have those boys showing up the *Strong Female Character™*
@hithere5931
Жыл бұрын
I wish they cast someone with a round face like Astrid. Not something you see in media a lot, I loved the fact that her face was round and she was still conveniently attractive.
@carlywalker3386
10 ай бұрын
I am so happy I am not alone in feeling this. Even in the books the astrid characture is describer as a fierce blonde
@Cheetahviper
Жыл бұрын
Norse people were white. They had red, brown, or blonde hair. Saying she's norse but dark and a prince is interested in her is too far a stretch.
@christophermichaelclarence6003
Жыл бұрын
Theyre Vikings, Nordics People. So as Elsa from Frozen
@scarlett19b
Жыл бұрын
*There are also a lot of Scandinavian/Norwegian/Swedish/Danish people with a Olive complexion due to genetics/dna because of the HAPLO-GROUP they originally belong too!*
@katarinawikholm5873
Жыл бұрын
@@scarlett19bAren’t you getting tired of reposting that screaming comment throughout the comment section?
@@scarlett19b As a Scandinavian, yes, but only in summer.
@carly4082
Жыл бұрын
If they want more black characters they should just make them and stop changing the originals, they keep calling people who are mad about this racist but no one was upset about Moana, Mulan or Princess and the frog
@Film_Overload
Жыл бұрын
PRECISELY! Great observation! :)
@disneytoysr4fun975
Жыл бұрын
Nico is a white woman. Expecting black people to claim a girl who is only 25% black is like expecting white people to claim Rihanna or Chris Brown.
@ninamatthews8747
Жыл бұрын
She’s not even black!!!
@eazymepeazyme3907
Жыл бұрын
I'm upset about the latest Mulan. Because it was a bad movie. Nothing to do about the casts.
@carly4082
Жыл бұрын
@@eazymepeazyme3907 Yeah it was pretty bad and what was up with the witch?
@deepmalyadas6585
11 ай бұрын
Hey man, thanks for the video. I feel like I was going crazy. I was really bothered by the Percy Jackson cast since the books were such a huge part of my childhood. I agree 100%, this isnt inclusivity, its just pandering. They are tokenising races to score brownie points with the ppl who want to buy into this. I'm asian brown (Indian) and it's genuinely embarrassing. I'll just say, No, Big Media, i dont feel included. Stop ruining franchises for the love of god.
@nehapassarella1541
7 ай бұрын
I'm Indian too. It also makes me laugh that they change the color of the characters but only use African people, not considering that there are many other ethnic groups in the world. Every time they insert a black character it's never Indian, why?
@justinturnage1422
Жыл бұрын
I love it because every time they do it, the movies fails so hopefully, they do it a million more times and go out of business.
@NINSHI100
Жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to see if Disney would do a race swap for princess and the frog.
@quaintlyi
Жыл бұрын
They already did, the original story she was a white princess. Love that movie, just FYI.
@bryce1334
Жыл бұрын
they won't make a live action for it because they Arnt trying to push black stories they are just race swapping to get woke points with the other elites and the left its all political.
@bryce1334
Жыл бұрын
@@quaintlyi but they did the princess and the frog in a different place and time period which worked instead of just race swapping a single character for political points. princess and the frog is one of my favorites because I thing they did a good job with taking the story and putting it into a New Orleans setting.
@quaintlyi
Жыл бұрын
@@bryce1334 Aaah good points, I never thought about it on that level. It was never one of my favorite stories. Just one of those that showed up randomly though childhood and I agree, They really did do an amazing job on the movie. My Daughter chose that movies theme for her 9th birthday. But, back on point & Slowing down, I also now realize you meant, if they turned it into a live action movie...
@That1guyCraig
Жыл бұрын
@@bryce1334 it's not always about political points. Are you saying these artists get no kind of creative imput into their work? If your adapting a piece like this a cartoon about dragons. Why is it out of all the unbelievable things you are seeing, a different color person is the most jarring. Why have a carbon copy of the original, then you could just watch the original. Your trying to retell a story. Not recreate a cartoon.
@BNuts
Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Astrid was based on a blonde, wild-haired girl from another Norse tribe named Camicazi. She was on many of Hiccup's adventures with him in the books. Alvin the Terrible was completely different in the books, too, as was Toothless. He wasn't a riding dragon at all.
@Film_Overload
Жыл бұрын
Interesting, didn't know that. Thanks for watching and for the very interesting info :)
@joeltraut5050
Жыл бұрын
The original book that the series was based off of Astrid was a wild, blonde haired short wild girl from the bog burglar tribe and her name was camicazi. Fishlegs was a thin spindly character who wore glasses and was allergic to basically everything and was an Orphan boy who was outcast from the berserker tribe. Snotlout was hiccups Chad cousin who betrays the entire tribe to the enemy but sacrifices himself in the end
@Film_Overload
Жыл бұрын
@@joeltraut5050 Oh interesting. Thanks for the knowledge! :)
@joeltraut5050
Жыл бұрын
@@Film_Overload 👍
@Ray.B
Жыл бұрын
@BNuts Read the books too. Often something horrible comes out when trying to transfer the story from a book series 1:1 to the big screen. So from my point of view they did a great job in reshaping.
@MrDagon
6 ай бұрын
A awesome animation that I hold dear to my heart, it's part of my childhood, I'm a black person myself and I NEVER had a problem with this type of stuff, what bothers me is that the animation represents Scandinavian......Vikings.....those people shouldn't even know that black people existed. This is so wrong in so many levels, first, you completely throw a ancient culture out of the window, its disrespectful, second, these race swap is racist by itself, if you want racism to stop, then stop talking about it, if you feel the need to empower something It just mean you think its weak, the thought alone its racist. I still can't understand why these directors keep doing that, EVERY movie or animation that had race swap completely flopped and were met with GIGANTIC criticism over it. This is just ridiculous.
@pyrolight7568
10 ай бұрын
I had no idea this was a thing. This is up there with Snow White as the stupidest race swap.
@livinghound
Жыл бұрын
No live action movie can ever replace the How to Train Your Dragon animated trilogy, especially that first flight scene with the aerial dynamics and soundtrack. I would listen to the soundtrack while writing.
@planetcoolzon
Жыл бұрын
Fr
@user-mp4cr6bm3y
Жыл бұрын
i agree, the original soundtrack was badass
@priscillac9966
Жыл бұрын
Its amazingly animated and the aesthetic is so pretty.. I'm so scared that they are going to capture that same look.. if the try to make the dragons look too realistic, they're gonna lose their appeal and that makes me sad
@GotNoSwagGaming
Жыл бұрын
preech it brother
@ivankawnartist
Жыл бұрын
Nor should it. The movies are garbage, and anyone who touches them will burn along with them.
@spillledmilllk
Жыл бұрын
I think celebrating diversity can also mean representing a variety of white people cultures too like in the case of Nordic characters. If they made a live action Brave, you would expect Merida to look a certain way to represent the Irish look. Same with historic German, Italian, French people etc. They're all "white" but look different, talk different, & have different culture.
@aliluv7816
Жыл бұрын
100% agree
@troybaxter
Жыл бұрын
If they do a live action Brave and Merida is not a red head, I will actually be pissed. I am part Scottish, Irish, and Italian. That is my ancestry, and I take pride in it.
@nessyness5447
Жыл бұрын
@@troybaxterspecially given how much oppressed and destroyed scottish clans culture has been historically by england
@aliluv7816
Жыл бұрын
@@troybaxter im hispanic but I agree. Theres hardly any redheads in Disney and I love the culture that Brave has especially Merida's accent
@MrE_
Жыл бұрын
@@troybaxter sorry man, they are going to make her black and british or some shi
@abwhiterabbit2787
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! There is a difference between race swapping and blind casting, and at this point there is a super obvious pattern of race swapping rather than casting because the actor fits the role best. Samuel L Jackson as Nick Fury will always be the gold standard of blind casting.
@brittaniebardwell9717
Жыл бұрын
Well said! We need to appreciate the originality within the story not force a change that shouldn't happen. These characters are relatable because of what they experience and their ups and down throughout the movie, not their looks. It shouldn't matter what someone looks like to relate and you're 100% right about that. Again, well said.
@aquawarper7328
Жыл бұрын
They’re literally trying to fight racism with racism and it’s just wrong. They did it with Ariel from The Little Mermaid, Mermista from She-Ra, and April O’Neil in Rise of TMNT. Honestly, why don’t they just make new characters with different backstories? THAT’S representation, not this laziness they’re giving us
@Film_Overload
Жыл бұрын
1000% AGREE WITH YOU! :)
@Splotch-li6bm
Жыл бұрын
Agree with you entirely but April was originally black so
@chudiarys
Жыл бұрын
exactly, i can't even imagine the movie without all the accents it will feel empty
@sakuracardcaptor4709
Жыл бұрын
Because they are lazy!
@mirishikibacchus6862
Жыл бұрын
I actually like black April, she's definitely really fun to be around, and I honestly don't mind that race swap, but I agree with everything else you said, I think they should make more original stories starring black characters instead of race swaping them
@oddpoppetesq.3467
Жыл бұрын
My daughter absolutely lives for HTTYD, I even won a competition for her when HTTYD3 came out. Even she said and I quote "why does Astrid have dark hair like me she's blonde in the films", she didn't care about the colour of her skin, just her hair colour (she's 9 now) 🤣 but her take is right though, why change things that don't need changing. Tbth my daughter isn't a fan of the live action remakes they've been doing the last few years.
@user-xl7fc6eu3g
Жыл бұрын
So how come you just can't think of how to train your dragon as a fictional story like the multiverse too. Nordic/Swedish can be black too if they are biracial or if they're born in those countries so I don't see why you're making a fuse about it! You're white just white, I could understand if you were Nordic/Swedish but you aren't... So why are you upset? The only people who are mad are whites not Nordic/Swedish people🤣🤣You're mad because the storyline isn't staying true to the original when the entire storyline is fictional and has dragons lord forbids if they're more black dragons than white ones I bet you'll have a meltdown! You also said it wasn't about color but proceed to have your daughter say something that is colorist towards her hair lol
@nuhmuhammadidyrazlan4993
Жыл бұрын
Smart kid
@skye_pie-sv8fq
Жыл бұрын
it could be that they're going to make it so she's got blonde hair during the filming. we don't know what it will e like yet. but good on your daughter for not caring about her skin tone.
@spohg2887
Жыл бұрын
To be fair her skin isn't particularly dark the most noticeable thing was her hair colour being different
@oddpoppetesq.3467
Жыл бұрын
@@skye_pie-sv8fq I taught all 3 of my girls that humans come in all shapes, sizes and colours but we all bleed the same coloured blood 🤷
@Dragoneer
11 ай бұрын
RIP my favorite franchise man, the one thing that got me obsessed with dragons in the first place, and the inspiration behind my username. You have no idea how upset this makes me hearing this…
@joshuaowobbuffet3360
Жыл бұрын
In art in general (since it works so much for movies, games, cartoons) when a character is created it is important that he is easily identified by the public at first sight, so his silhouette, his color palette and pose have to refer the public to such a character. When you remove this visual identity from the character, when you look at him with another color palette, a very neutral pose or with a completely different silhouette, you no longer associate this character with the portrayed character. Take Mickey for example, if you see Mickey's silhouette on a sign across the street you will immediately say "look it's Mickey!" That's why I don't agree with changing the ethnicity of the characters, and although the personality and moral characteristics remain the same, the public doesn't associate it because the visual character has been lost, and unfortunately it causes many live action works to fall into oblivion and nor are they so successful, the success they acquire is usually based on nostalgia and relying on already loved material, rather than creating new stories.
@samreinhardt9728
Жыл бұрын
As an asian i support your position. We are all humans and we can relate to humans of other race. Because Russel Crow played Gladiator doesn’t mean i can’t empathise his characters.
@random6809
Жыл бұрын
I'm a pasty white English bloke and watch and relate to South Korean characters just fine!
@cathoderay305
Жыл бұрын
An Australian portraying a Roman (Italian), how preposterous. Next, you'll tell me that women have played Hamlet on stage. How dreadful.
@milotin
Жыл бұрын
As an asian, I want to see more asian characters in films, but I sure as hell don't want to see any existing characters race-swapped into an asian. Imagine an asian Maximus? Or a black Maximus? Sounds crazy? Somehow a black Astrid, the most scandanavian name was ok for this film. Madness
@leeboy7139
Жыл бұрын
@random6809: LOL: THE most popular TV programs in Hawaii are Korean dramas. I know of geriatric white women who watched American soup operas for decades but now only watch Korean Dramas. Many have told me American soap operas are boring, monotonous and hedonic. They can relate to the moral characteristics of the Korean drama characters but not to the American soaps'.
@KRAFTWERK2K6
Жыл бұрын
@@milotin I wanted to see an asian Motoko Kusanagi in this horrendous "Ghost in the Shell" Live-action remake and NOT Scarlett Johannson... I simply could not see her in that role at all.... They only chose her cuz she was recognizable.
@uhh345
Жыл бұрын
Oh great now DreamWorks is doing it when I thought they were getting better than Disney, but they're doing what Disney is doing.
@Film_Overload
Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY! You're RIGHT ON. It's truly sad in my opinion :(
@ShinGhidorah17
Жыл бұрын
I feel so bad because of this.
@Film_Overload
Жыл бұрын
@@ShinGhidorah17 I was very disappointed by this announcement as well. All I wanted was some respect of the animated trilogy :(
@guarddoggo
Жыл бұрын
Fr tho, they give us last wish just to put a fast one on us with this crap.
@Simbala-bq5vy
Жыл бұрын
I hope both of them will get better especially disney
@Ethanoneverythingstwin
6 ай бұрын
thank God there's a black guy that also believes this, i subbed
@Film_Overload
6 ай бұрын
I appreciate the sub! Welcome aboard! :)
@JamiroquailX
7 ай бұрын
I've black family that hate race swapping. as my uncle says "this makes us look needy, by thinking that we need to be in everything as some cardboard cut out black person" when he has said to me he'd prefer to see himself represented by actual well developed black characters that arent just replacing white ones. I think its ironically more racist to say "hey look this race can be just like this one" by swapping them out. Black folks and so on can do just as well as others with their own characters and strengths rather than having to be some placeholder.
@claudiaccakescurro6340
Жыл бұрын
I remember growing up there was only one princess that had brown hair like me, Belle, yet Ariel, a princess with red hair, was my favorite. Years later, after seeing princess and the frog, tiana’s personality, drive, and passion is what I see in myself. A focus that should be considered is the personality of the characters and how we can see ourselves through that. I don’t doubt that the actors selected for these live actions won’t do well but making sure the personality of the characters that we have grown up adoring need be a focus as well
@Film_Overload
Жыл бұрын
Yes, agreed. :)
@mar.s6516
Жыл бұрын
Original fairy tails were either scary stories to warn kids about some danger, or more inspirational stories to teach us how to be good person. Since most movies go for inspirational route, why dont you focus on inspiring kids to be kind and brave and resilient and NOT trying to inspire us to be more black? more latin?? How is that suppose to work? Its not like i can learn to be more like certain race, but everyone can learn and be inspired to be brave (like Astrid), or be kind (like Cinderella), or resilient (like Mulan) - thats were focus should be on.
@chilidoghog
Жыл бұрын
@@mar.s6516 Why did you have to add this comment under the original comment, that's the point the original comment is already saying. Sounds like you're just trying to take away character or personality from Tiana.
@Simbala-bq5vy
10 ай бұрын
For real I example relate to Simba even though I'm not a hairy furry lion or to Kim possible with her annoyed trait even though I'm not a girl the character is important to relate to the character not the look
@athena6227
Жыл бұрын
I’m so upset about Astrid and Annabeth. Like I can’t really name many characters that come from Nordic/Scandinavian or Greek backgrounds in US television. It’s really racist to say just because you’re one color you can’t relate to someone else. I personally can relate to Tiana a lot, as we have similar goals in a way. They are taking away other people’s cultures and representation. Every choice they are making to “give more representation” takes it away from someone else. It’s such a sickening tactic. I’m tired of it. Halle did amazing, she’s a fish, that’s fine. But Snow White? She’s German and might I add “skin as white as snow”. Astrid is Nordic, they made her pasty in the original movie on purpose. Annabeth is half greek, it would’ve been cool to see an actress with Greek features, and especially a Greek nose. Can you name a lot of characters that have that feature? Especially in Disney films or kid shows. I can’t really other than Hercules. Maybe a little girl who was insecure about her nose would’ve liked to see some representation too? Okay I’m done with my rant
@jerrylouis8930
Жыл бұрын
Astrid has always been voiced by the lovely America Ferrera.
@xx_mysticwolf_xx1492
Жыл бұрын
As a white person with ties and pride in Scandinavian culture I am sickened and saddened by the slow destruction of it
@jerrylouis8930
Жыл бұрын
@@xx_mysticwolf_xx1492 Berk has a canonical home, and it is not Scandinavia, proper. A Viking outpost will be made of what we find.
@lapisinfernalis9052
Жыл бұрын
I was mad when they showed the casting choice for Snow White. A fairy tale which takes place probably in 1500s southern Germany's Black Forest area. The cartoon uses a LOT imagry from that region too. The girl's name literally describes her skin tone. Will they change the poem to say "brown as sand" instead of "white as snow"? I would not be surprised at all.
@PowerPotatoo
Жыл бұрын
Honestly I’m ok with Annabeth, but yeah it’s a bit much at this point
@khalifabinhendi6107
Жыл бұрын
When I first heard that a live-action movie of the How to Train Your Dragon series was being made, instead of being excited, I was worried how they will mess it up. That disaster we call Little Mermaid, live-action, outside of the race-swap, was terrible with acting, script, CGI, etc. So, if this race swap is happening, I am expecting the other aspects of the movie to not meet any expectations outside of "terrible."
@dragondude6984
Жыл бұрын
I too was so happy that there would be another movie. But then i realised the potential for it to be messed up. Cuz the previous movies all set an extremely high standard. And I don't think modern day movie making can meet that standard. But I'm crossing my fingers and hoping for it to meet most of my expectations. And at least. At least. Be decent. I really hope so. I really do.😢
@2nang4dis
Жыл бұрын
This whole race swap thing is funny, because since when did mermaids have different races ? Ariel is also a fictional character 😂 So how can people be trying to draw out facts from a fictitious kids story, the people concerned about the “race swap” clearly have an agenda.
@moosedawg71
Жыл бұрын
When I first heard about it, I jokingly said, "Wait!! Are they making Toothless white?!!!" Of course not, that would NEVER happen!! Not in today's "anti-racist" society! 🙄 🙄 🤡 🤡
@miketan4803
Жыл бұрын
@@2nang4distually it is if someone intentionally changes the color for the sake of $ then that is being r. Look at me. I'm not w but I know plenty of my folks sick of race swapping which is changing color of a character instead of going to the trouble of creating a new one. Since when we see b vikings? How's about b Abe Lincoln or w Muhammed Ali or b Cleopatra ... Oh wait ... If it were a one or two off, ok but this is a flood of cultural appropriation, if one were honest about it
@TyTyTygerguy
Жыл бұрын
i have watched HTTYD since i was like 3 and i was thinking the same thing every live action remake has been terrible the past few years so they better fix this.
@fm95master
Жыл бұрын
Thanks you SO MUCH for aknowledging this! I'm sick and tired when they always change the originality of a character only so they can make everything "more inclusive", doing as if people are too dumb to understand a character otherwise. Also immediately calling us racists when we say that they should stick to the originals we grew up to love. Nico is a great actress and I loved her in the last of us as also in missing and other productions but she just doesn't fit the role at all. Only because they want to make the series and movies more inclusive ( to their minds), it doesn't mean that vikings were black or yellow, or red or whatever else. It is the same problem they had with Dragonball when they let a white guy play Sengoku that were supposed to be a Asian actor. The movie bombed and they still didn't learn from it.
@chriscrookham3340
Жыл бұрын
Dragonball evolution is trash. But gotta disagree that Goku should be played by someone Asian. He's Saiyan not Asian. So yeah. Never got people's misconception that because it's an Asian media Goku should be Asian when he is clearly given a fictional race
@fm95master
Жыл бұрын
@@chriscrookham3340 Well then they could had taken someone that looks as close to him as possible or at least bother to do so. The actor didn't matched at all. Of course nobody has such big eyes like the anime characters but that's not what I mean anyway.
@calesnr1fanandworshipper
Жыл бұрын
exactly and theyre also erasing representation by trying to like ''add'' more representation.
@grinko1222
Жыл бұрын
@@fm95master Yeah, a white guy looks more like Goku than actual asians do.
@AsteriusAetosSonOfTheDawn
Жыл бұрын
@@chriscrookham3340 The saiyans look like the Asians though. And Goku is based from Sun waking Chinese Mythology
@snappiepappie9899
Жыл бұрын
omg the actress from the witcher is actually perfect. Her face shape, hair and eyes are exactly like Astrids
@loumarlow7295
Жыл бұрын
This is the most sensibly explained way of saying what I have opined for so long. Thankyou!🎉
@batmanvsjoker7725
Жыл бұрын
Everyone's shocked that they did a race swap again. I'm more shocked that they genuinely think remaking HTTYD in live-action is a good idea.
@Muidalac
4 ай бұрын
I'm honestly shocked about it as well. I mean, I knew it had happened to some movies, but I didn't think they'd stoop THIS low.
@tjsmith4367
Жыл бұрын
As a person of color I can say that this is not helping racism at all its just solidifying it, this is ridiculous why can't they just remake a classic movie without changing race i hate how race pretty much defines everything these days.
@christopheryoder8292
Жыл бұрын
That is the point.
@cptnbustanut
Жыл бұрын
I wish they would just stop remaking classic movies, period
@matthewcollinsiiiakacdawgc7361
Жыл бұрын
You wanna know what doesn't help racism, fussing about race swapping...
@monodescarado
Жыл бұрын
@@matthewcollinsiiiakacdawgc7361 I agree. Unless it has a major negative impact on the end product, then it really shouldn't matter. It's actually quite insulting to suggest that the actress has been chosen because of her skin-colour and not because casting thought the actress might be good in the role. And costantly complaining about race-swapping (especially if it has no credible impact on the movie itself) just fuels racists who feel they are justified at hurling anger, hate, and even threats, at the actors themselves.
@SyntheticSpy
Жыл бұрын
@@monodescaradoyou can find a good actor from any race, but the point of an actor is to embody a character. Finding someone who visually correlates with a character, at least relatively similarly, is an aspect of accurately portraying that character. It doesn’t matter if I am the greatest actor on planet earth, if someone tried to cast me as miles morales I am starting a riot
@Art3misRP1
6 ай бұрын
As a proud pagan with viking ancestors i will confirm all my ancestors were white and while i can accept the cast actor for Hiccup i will NEVER accept Astrids casting, she looks nothing like Astrid so here we go again with another Woke fail. As far as i am concerned the animated films will always be cannon and represent the franchise while the live film will never be remembered
@derraider3573
3 ай бұрын
I understand where you are comming from, but I think we should wait until we see her in character. Makupe makes wonders, and i dont think her skintone is that dark. Im honestly more concerend about her Hair.
@evehusband439
Жыл бұрын
Also have you noticed that it's always the female characters that they race swap (Annabeth in Percy Jackson( they said that they didn't care about the description in the book but funnily enough they kept Percy accurate) the Little Mermaid, Astrid...) The men that are in charge want to see men being accurate but they always sacrifice the characteristics of female characters so that "woke" people are happy.
@bakaredmaka
Жыл бұрын
No not just female characters. The resident evil movie isn't from Disney but they did the same thing to the character "Leon". He wasn't a white guy anymore. lol
@TheAmbush101
Жыл бұрын
@@bakaredmakaJet Black from Cowboy Bebop comes to mind, too. Granted, the actor was good - even if the adaption was trash. However, race-swapping is a sign of bad writing, direction, and intent with an intellectual property; ie, abusing manipulative commercialization of something that deservedly can be called art. It isn’t fair to the actors (even if many, honestly, are not all that great) to be put in that situation. Many seem to genuinely have talent that can be explored, but that assumes there is someone in Hollywood that is competent enough to write a half-ways decent screen-play. It’s a tall order, it seems.
@josefraaf6031
Жыл бұрын
A game race swaped Aragorn.
@VidiaReePhoenix
Жыл бұрын
Actually, Percy isn't accurate either. He has black hair and green eyes and they cast a kid with blond hair, blue eyes, and freckles. And before you say wig or contacts, Riordan has refused to make his actors do that. Lord knows why.
@calesnr1fanandworshipper
Жыл бұрын
Wait Annabeths race was swapped (ps i didnt read the books)
@petesandoval2612
Жыл бұрын
Well said, sir!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 You're right in that people relate to characters based on how they are or what they're going through, not skin color. Race swapping is quite annoying. I've never thought of how it could be a form of segration but it does feel that way. Excellent observation!
@Film_Overload
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it! :)
@RaifalM3n
Жыл бұрын
nobody relates. kids don t relate, they just do what they want. stop spreading this relate shit
@Morten_Storvik
Жыл бұрын
Well then the skin color should not matter in the first place then. So why get worked up about it?
@loganshaw4527
Жыл бұрын
@@Morten_Storvikwell to change it you got to add weird elements to even kind of make it work. Like normally you have no dark skinned living up north not enough sun the same for the opposite is true for living near the equator to much sun so easy to get a sunburn/tan or turn black olive black form dessert training like what happened to my step father poor guy his own mother did not even realize him by how much his skin color changed. You would think he got race swapped form mowin "not spelling it right" Hawaiian and a north African. Just form getting to much of a tan.
@Morten_Storvik
Жыл бұрын
@@loganshaw4527 Not really the case here as there were in fact a few black vikings due to the vikings traveling all over the place.
@EveOrthyniusNova
Жыл бұрын
you bring up a valid point I dont see often it is infact, extremely racist to assume people cannot connect to a character just because they dont share the same skin color, and its genuinely disgusting
@sakurap95
Жыл бұрын
I will look forward to Nico Parker’s performance. I won’t be offended either way. But I admit a part of me was a bit disappointed because (at risk of sounding bigoted) Astrid looked like me. A blonde girl of Scandinavian descent that was the best epitome of strength. I don’t know for sure but I wonder if it’s worth it to replace the girl that was meant to break the blonde sterotype with a continuation of (if taken to an unhealthy degree) the “always” strong black woman sterotype.
@kelsmister
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! It’s hard for me (a white girl) having to say it bothers me without being told I’m r-cist. I don’t care if someone is black white asian Hispanic. But I do have issues when the swap was only done to check a box.
@Film_Overload
Жыл бұрын
WHOLEHEARTEDLY agree with you! It drives me crazy too when they do this, and I'm apart of the group that they're trying to get a pat on the back from lol :)
@kelsmister
Жыл бұрын
@@Film_Overload YEAH seriously! Why not create a new character then instead of dismantling another? Does it not look worst, like a hand-me-down rather than something NEW? And why should their race matter. If they're the best candidate for the role, sure, but it really REALLY feels like its the "my cousin is gay therefore I'm not homophobic" argument these hollywood executives are having.
@Film_Overload
Жыл бұрын
@@kelsmister You’re preaching to the choir :)
@terryrocks2j
Жыл бұрын
The messed up thing is that the people who supported the Ariel casting and hated the Nani casting are the same people who are going to defend this. They still can't see there is an agenda.
@Film_Overload
Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY! :)
@naturallyspiritual7256
Жыл бұрын
Noooo no. *I Supported Halle as Ariel because Halles mannerisms and voice is just like Ariel.* Ariel is a mermaid who sings Caribbean songs. Her name is Hebrew/Arabic and her father was Greek. Clearly her culture is ?????? Fantasy? Making her any race wasnt an issue. If they hired an asian woman who had Ariels voice and charm, Id support the casting too. *But Astrid is NORDIC.* There are no question marks there! She should be white! Race swapping strips the culture away from the character which is why I dont want Nani to be white passing. I want her to be Hawaiian. Nordic and Hawaiians arnt some fantasy culture, theyre real people whos culture should be respected.
@ShaiLai
Жыл бұрын
Honestly the history and backgrounds don't matter, they are established characters with already canon physical appearances. Character design matters as much as personality, like Tinkerbell isn't even blonde anymore. I want to work in animation/character design and i'd be mad asf if I spent hours coming up with a design just for ppl to disregard it cos "race does 't matter" or the actor/actress sings and acts well
@LifeisaBeautifulting
Жыл бұрын
Just say black people, that's what you want to say
@anitadarling4592
Жыл бұрын
@@naturallyspiritual7256The actress for Nani is Native Hawaiian though? But I understand why you would expect a dark skinned Nani. As long as we don’t invalidate people’s culture because they are “white-passing”? That can still be only focusing on race more than the person’s cultural background. Race swapping can strip people’s culture but focusing on race or skin color alone while ignoring the people’s culture and character can be just as harmful too. Nani was more dark skinned originally yes but if they are from there and have lived there then they are far more likely to fit the role than someone who looks like Nani but is not even from Hawaii unless they are a great actor then yes I can be proved wrong. But I understand why you’d want the actress to be both just as dark and native Hawaiian, idk why that wasn’t possible. I am Mexican but I’m white so I wouldn’t take a dark skinned Mexican’s role for example but that doesn’t mean I’m not Mexican because I’m white either. I don’t think that’s what you were implying from light skinned Hawaiians but it did come off that way. Ariel was always originally just Atlantican she was white but never really had an official ethnicity and the origins of the story are Danish. That is why many people erroneously think Cleopatra was African or Egyptian because they just see where they resided but her family was not originally from Egypt. The main problem is what’s the point of making a remake? If the original set a very high bar and set of expectations anyways? And people get bored of seeing the same plot reused over and over again.
@MeanGreen1345
7 ай бұрын
Also i feel like its a cheap shot to always change the secondary main character but almost never the *main* character? Except for ariel yk. Also as a blonde girl I love seeing badass blondes instead of "dumb but hot" and I know its not the same as racisn obviously but that representation matters for everyone and its weird to me to race swap characters in general? And history wise I do know that there were vikings of all races, sorta, very simply put. Im mad because I also want more stories that are unique and poc, or their own re-telling with added cultural-ness as a whole (sorry dont know a more propper word) but i wish if they race-swap a princess or any story they would change the entire culture in the movie, like as an example I saw a indian version of beauty and the beast once, im not sure if there was a historical similar story or whichever but not only were the characters indian but so was the architecture and everything in the movie and I really enjoyed it. And another example: Tiana is one of my favorite princesses and I relate to her as a white girl. She's fantastic and strong and her story was beautifully done, as well as being her own character. I think race swapping isn't a bad thing, I just wish it would be done better and with more...heart. I'm still excited for the live httyd though.
@lreneewell9154
Жыл бұрын
It's so funny how someone who's biracial (half white) can play a dark skinned POC they look absolutely NOTHING like, but not a monoracial white person. And these same people complain when we don't identify with our white side claiming we should "embrace both sides" and we are "ashamed to be half white". No, it's not that I'm "ashamed" to be half white. It's that no matter what our ancestral make up is, these racist people only see our COLOR/ POC race. While also using us as tokens when casting POC characters in remakes instead of casting POC actors that look like the characters they are playing....
@dillonohlemiller401
Жыл бұрын
Hollywood seems to be allergic to "source material accuracy". They're remaking How To Train Your Dragon in live action and changing Astrid. Why? The trilogy ended in 2019. Why are they remaking this franchise that was not only perfect, but JUST left us? It's not long enough for fans like us to miss the franchise
@travisbishop782
Жыл бұрын
It's because the producers are getting so risk adverse that they actively turn away original ideas.
@soulsurfer7702
Жыл бұрын
@@travisbishop782 Movies with original ideas are getting made look up some of Netflix original movies that aren’t heavily promoted like the kissing booth those types. There’s a KZitem channel that summarizes movies that are a bit odd but original. But when you look at KZitem channels for example the Ryan guy do you see him discussing original movies or this is the reason the little mermaid remake sucks.
@travisbishop782
Жыл бұрын
@@soulsurfer7702 you are definitely right about KZitem being more daring about their movies. I keep forgeting about them.
@soulsurfer7702
Жыл бұрын
@@travisbishop782 Also maybe some people are overlooking ones not made in the US I remember watching a movie on Netflix was about a prison where the amount of food depends on what level you are think it was called the lift. It was interesting and something new. It was a movie from Spain.
@soulsurfer7702
Жыл бұрын
@@travisbishop782 Btw the KZitem channel is called mystery recapped if you would like to see movies with original and lot of odd storylines.
@lpsjewel
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Honestly as white blonde I’m so sick and tired of no just the race-swapping but hair-swapping. Ever notice how the girls “swapped” are have blonde or red hair? First it was Iris, then Ariel, then Annabeth, Now Astrid! I want them to stop taking away every good Blonde and Red head! I thought Dreamworks was better. I’m so disappointed in them.
@FireFoxie1345
Жыл бұрын
Ever notice it was the ones who’s names start with a vowel
@moyosoreoluwabajo9552
Жыл бұрын
@@thedingdongsunshinefuture what else would you have expected the author to say? If he had come out and said he didn't want to cast a black actress but he didn't have a choice, he would have been labeled as racist
@moyosoreoluwabajo9552
Жыл бұрын
@@thedingdongsunshinefuture as a writer myself, if I describe a character with blonde hair and blue eyes, that means that's how I envision her but if they decide to make a movie about it and cast a black person, I can't publicly disagree
@winxclubflora8446
Жыл бұрын
Finally someone realises that annabeth casting and astrid casting is sooooo wrong. Honestly if the actor doesnt have to remotely resemble the character in appearance then they should just cast a man to play annabeth cuz his personality matches annabeth. I mean thats the job of actor to ACT not match personality pf the character. The people who play serial killer villains in movies arent actually serial killers they are good actors. And ariel casting was horrid
@kennedy78
Жыл бұрын
@@thedingdongsunshinefutureer ethnicity is quite literally important to the story because she’s half GREEK GOD! I wanted GREEK people in these roles. Hair and eyes can be manipulated with contacts and wigs. But I wanted real Greek kids in these roles or kids who had Greek or Mediterranean decent! That’s what Rick should’ve been looking for! I’m pretty mad about Percy’s casting too don’t get me wrong. Tbh the only one I didn’t care about was Grover because he’s kind of ambiguous and tbh I liked his casting a lot in the old movies he was one of the best characters so my expectations of him were non existent. But Percy and Annabeth look NOTHING like they should. Percy has sea green eyes and DARK black hair with tan skin. Now I don’t actually take it out on the kids in the role though, because it’s not their fault they got the role they were probably just so excited to get the role! This isn’t about them it’s about the people behind the casting. Therefore, I’m really upset with Uncle Rick.
@miracleloss
Жыл бұрын
The fact that she’s freaking SCANDINAVIAN but they still did that
@nightfox-7773
7 ай бұрын
This bothers me to no end. Astrid’s character was born and raised in the Norse area where people are very much white. They’re willing to get rid of authenticity and race swap somebody just to please the masses. Not to mention, as some people have been saying, like Annabeth in PJO, she was blond but not the stereotypical blonde, which was part of the point. They need to stop making all the female leads a different race just to fit some agenda.
@Film_Overload
7 ай бұрын
RIGHT ON! :)
@nightfox-7773
7 ай бұрын
@@Film_Overload :)
@Boop01013
Жыл бұрын
what’s even sadder to think is that not only is there little to no representation for people with Scandinavian backgrounds but that the main protagonists love interest was average looking and not an over sexualized bombshell character like most movies that trended were. I remember when the first HTTD came out and everyone was beefing why the main protagonists love interest was ugly and mean. But she got more beautiful and her character depth developed as the series continued. :(
@Titanblade17
Жыл бұрын
As someone who grew up watching how to train your dragon about ten billion times, I would like to see the characters I know and love instead of some random brunette I have to convince myself is Astrid.
@That1guyCraig
Жыл бұрын
But why, then you could just watch the original. I view it as if looking at the multverse. Here's a story you know but in a world where things are different. If you want a carbon copy than why watch it?
@parsogross8887
Жыл бұрын
@@That1guyCraig it’s not a multiverse though it’s a live action REMAKE not an alternate reality
@That1guyCraig
Жыл бұрын
@Parsogross not if they are using the books. Then it is an adaptation not a remake.
@Titanblade17
Жыл бұрын
@@That1guyCraig If you have read the books, you would know why they aren’t and didn’t adhere to the book series’ plot. It wouldn’t be easy to make the first few books into movies, and the last books deal with themes like slavery, war, mass deaths, etc, a very different vibe then the originals. The books grow with their audience but with movies that would have to span multiple books at a time to get a decent runtime, that wouldn’t be possible, and I think you overestimate a film studio’s willingness to change a plot that works.
@That1guyCraig
Жыл бұрын
@Titan Knight I don't think they should change anything that works. But the race of the actors isn't the thing that make it a hit. It's the story. And a story can be told by anyone. What if I want to tell that story but set in Canada? Are you saying they wouldn't translate? What if I wanted to tell it using the pacific islands as a location instead? Look at theater. Changing the actors doesn't change the message.
@cosmic-snips
11 ай бұрын
This is exactly how I feel on the matter of these live action race swaps as well. Very well said!!
@karenzernicek-morton2256
7 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this….. totally agree….. looking at history I don’t know any Vikings that were not white ……
@Film_Overload
7 ай бұрын
You're welcome! :)
@blobbertmcblob4888
Жыл бұрын
ALL Dreamworks needed to do is make an animated series about Hiccup and Astrids kids. Give Snoutlout a kid with someone, give Ruff and Tuff kids, give Fishlegs a kid and then you could make an episodic series where something different happens in each episode but have them all tie together at the end, JUST like Defenders and riders and RTTE and no one would be saying anything, because we would LOVE that. The reason people loved the tv series and dare I say a LOT of people(myself included) consider them better than the movies is because those tv series gave life and personality to the world beyond the main characters. They took what were previously just backround characters (Snotlout, Ruff and Tuff, Fishlegs) and gave them personalities and purpose. The Nine realms might as well be it's own damn thing, completely disassociated with the main series because all that shit has done so far has been to go out of it's way to mock and disrespect the original property it's meant to be a CONTINUATION OF. For the record, I don't think anyone should have an issue with the fact that they race swapped Astrid. What they should have an issue with is that once again, rather than picking the right person for the character, they've picked a person that will fill their agenda. HTTYD as a concept takes place in Viking-age Scandinavia THOUSANDS of years ago on a single island. Yeah, there's not gonna be any racial diversity on an island of Nordic warriors. Let's also not forget that the Voice actress for Astrid (a white girl) is America Ferrera, who is Hispanic. Does the "inclusivity" not count unless you can SEE it? No one asked for this. HTTYD is STILL a classic 13 years later, it's one of my favorite movies and one of the ONLY movies I can watch over and over from start to finish and just not get tired/bored of. It is one of the most popular franchises in media history and still has one of the biggest fanbases of pretty much any media except maybe the MCU. WHY does it need to be remade?
@Film_Overload
Жыл бұрын
LOVE all your ideas! And the reason why they’re remaking it, is because they’re running out of original ideas in my opinion. So they have to go back and wreck everything that already exists. :)
@blobbertmcblob4888
Жыл бұрын
@@Film_Overload I've heard the term "creatively bankrupt" before but never put much thought into it because, no one can completely just run out of ideas, right? Well, I suppose when all the original people who founded these companies and the people who worked on the original projects and gave them love, are gone and all that's left are people who only see dollar signs, anything is possible.
@Film_Overload
Жыл бұрын
@@blobbertmcblob4888 You're spot on! it isn't so much that they're out of ideas, all these new people see are dollar signs now instead of making actually good content. It's the same reason why Disney keeps remaking all their GOOD movies :)
@deirdregibbons5609
Жыл бұрын
@@Film_Overload Yes, and I also think they are no longer willing to take risks by creating new ideas. Hence the remakes and franchises.
@Film_Overload
Жыл бұрын
@@deirdregibbons5609 100%! :)
@markerdude
Жыл бұрын
You nailed it! And by promoting this mentality, it fuels the racist fires. It’s absolutely on purpose, keeping us divided.
@alistairt7544
Жыл бұрын
Totally. They want us further divided than united, from politics, to entertainment, to the legal system. The more they make us divided, the more "we" fight each other, and are distracted to the real problem, which is the people in power taking advantage and exploiting the rest of us.
@seansyphers244
Жыл бұрын
Ironically on the other hand, it has also kept many of us united with one common bond we all share with each other … a special heartfelt love for the original animated films! ❤️ 🧜♀️ 🐼 … 😉 They can try to change our mentality as much as they want to … but they’ll NEVER change our memories!
@Zaemoncho
Жыл бұрын
Indeed. I am not white, brown, latin or whatever adjective, im just a dude. I like Blade, I like Spawn, I like Steel, I like Superman, never cared about their nationality or ethnicity, they're still good characters.
@seansyphers244
Жыл бұрын
@Zaemoncho … OMG, Steel?? LOL, I honestly felt bad for Shaq @ the time, cause I felt he deserved a better movie! 🤓 And I wanted SO bad to see a “SPAWN vs BLADE” movie from New Line YEARS ago, but unfortunately it never happened … and it probably never will either, being that you-know-WHO owns Marvel now… 🤬
@ivankawnartist
Жыл бұрын
Ironically, you being a giant baby is the very thing separating you from normal folks. It's not worth spending your time crying over. Move on and stop being immature.
@snuggleshuggles4257
6 ай бұрын
I agree with everything you said. By being "inclusive," they're actually being divisive. Something I would like to add though is these stories and characters are placed in a specific time period and location, and then race swapping for the live action or some other remake, just isn't accurate and can be insulting. Vikings are supposed to be Scandinavian, not black, therefore potentially insulting Scandinavians, culture, or history so Hollywood can meet their agenda that no one asked for. Also, if they want to portray more black people on screen, they can do so in an original show or movie, not messing with what was already presented to us. People want to see their book characters come to life accurately, or animated characters portrayed accurately in live action.
@Film_Overload
6 ай бұрын
EXACTLY. There is SOOO much African folklore and stories that would make EXCELLENT films/shows. But they refuse to make it! :)
@ChuckTheWise
5 ай бұрын
What really grinds my gears about it is that I am ethnicity Danish/Scandinavian and one of the reasons I love HTTYD is that it took place in roughly that part of the world and showed that culture so when I watch the movies it gives me a sense of pride for my heritage seeing it through the lens of these movies but when the lead is not part of that ethnicity it feels disrespectful In short: I feel like my race and culture is not being shown properly and I feel less relatable the characters
@sinfulwrath666
Жыл бұрын
Kids who grew up watching HTTYD and series with og Astrid is gonna get confused as to why in the live-action did she became black. Now artists that draw og Astrid is gonna be labeled racist because Twitter Freaks is gonna believe that Astrid is now black. Saw this first hand when an artist drew og Ariel where they labeled them racist, THEN another black artist qtweeted and ratio them with their drawing of live-action Ariel which really pissed me off.
@Film_Overload
Жыл бұрын
That makes me angry too. I know exactly what you're talking about. I saw that too. Like I say in the video, they do this to point fingers at the "racists" and "bigots". You're SPOT ON :)
@twylanaythias
Жыл бұрын
Just to give the woke mob their just rewards, I'd love to race-swap a lot of black classic TV characters. Say do an A-Team reboot with B.A. a hillbilly with a mullet; an all-white remake of Fresh Prince of Bel Air; or maybe redo Friday with only Devo (the villain) remaining black. And when the #FascistLeft dares to complain, just give them back their own excuses about 'inclusion' and 'diversity'.
@Film_Overload
Жыл бұрын
@@twylanaythias Couldn't have said that any better :)
@sinfulwrath666
Жыл бұрын
@@twylanaythias that's a funny idea. Were all about equality here
@takatamiyagawa5688
Жыл бұрын
I would like to think that kids who grew up watching HTTYD are old enough and intelligent enough now to understand the game that is being played. I guess the sort of people who complained about Gods of Egypt and The Last Airbender having a cast that was overly white, did not imagine that Disney would seek to remake so much of it's very white-European back catalogue into live action.
@imanabuiqran9246
Жыл бұрын
you're completely right, the idea that "i cant relate to a character unless it looks like me" is not only racist, its so goddamn egotistical. which pretty much sums up these people's thought process. not to mention, its LAZY. instead of writing good stories that are relatable you're just gonna take the easy route of political diversity and rely on that to carry your movie. you want representation? REPRESENT NORSE CULTURE!! how self-centered do you have to be to claim that your culture is more interesting than someone else's??
@That1guyCraig
Жыл бұрын
So if you had to verbally tell someone this movie. How big of a part would the Norse part be? Probably not very because you're going to focus on the beats. How he met the dragon, how the bonded, the conflict, the resolution. That's the story. It can be told anywhere with any actor because it's the characters that make the story. Sure it's easier to do with books because you have few preconceived images except the ones you thoughts of. So sure I'll give you once you've seen it one way you like change is jarring. But it's a fantasy piece. So why is it dragons are ok but other changes are not, it is fantasy after all. If they are telling the same story you loved then should it matter if it looks different. Isn't that more entertaining too, to make something that looks so different and yet make you feel the connection with the old. You say race swap is lazy, well so is just recreating the same looking thing just in real life.
@dreamon7295
Жыл бұрын
@@That1guyCraig Norse is literally the entirety of all the scenery, their clothes their heritage their way of life, even down to their decision making processes they’re called Vikings., the dragons are literally the secondary plot UNTIL toothless and even then the story still focuses more on hiccup and the Vikings UNTIL the last quarter of the movie in which it shifts unto the secondary plot of dragons and Vikings co-existing and helping one another.
@That1guyCraig
Жыл бұрын
@Dreamon ok. Sure I've never seen it so I'll take your word on all that. So you mean to say they can't do those exact same things with a different group of people? It's a story not a historical recreation. If your adapting something from a book. Why not take liberties in your art? Why pander to those demanding it be made their way? I mean yeah from a buisness side you need those people to come to make money. But if they make no changes make it just how you want. Then there's another group complaining about their lack of changes. So how do these creators win?
@bb8518
Жыл бұрын
@@That1guyCraig going by your point of view, I think they would do well to make Toothless pink. Or maybe rainbow colors... because you know, who wants to see the same boring thing?
@That1guyCraig
Жыл бұрын
@Bb85 I mean why not. Is his color important to the story. Is he the only (insert his actual color here as I don't know what it is) dragon born in 100 years. Who the stories say will bring upon great change? No? Then why not change the color. Look there's going to be people who have their own image from the books. And there's another group who has an image from the cartoon. You can't please either. And then there is the casual like myself. Who just wants to see something fresh. So yeah. If they want to make it rainbow colored as long as it looks good I'm for it. I mean I'd hope I'd be a reason or explained.
@Jarsia
7 күн бұрын
Also Ruffnutt and Tuffnutt are twins, and the people they cast to play them couldn't look less like twins.
@jedimasters1462
Жыл бұрын
The Anne Bolyen character did they forget that she was a real person who was white? She's not some made up character like Ariel. Cleopatra was also Egyptian so already not white. They didn't need to make her black. It reminds me of how the show Xena Warrior Princess turned Helen of Troy into a black woman when history has always described her as a white woman with blonde hair, because it was so rare for Greeks back then.
@ClarkFamily2014
Жыл бұрын
I completely agree with this race swapping nonsense. In the "Little Mermaid", ok there wasn't really any cultural or historical significance to Ariel being white in the animated movie. However in "How to Train Your Dragon" the story takes place in Norse or Scandinavian society. They are effectively misrepresenting an entire culture and ethnicity. Would Hollywood race swap Moana, Mirabel, or Mulan in a live action adaptation with a white actress? Hell no, they would accused of minimalizing their respective cultures, and rightfully so. Yet if they change Elsa or Anna, it would be for making the live action movie more inclusive to other ethnic groups. Here's an idea, just make a new movie with new characters and a new story that can have whatever ethnicities, real or imagined, you want. Then you can have your "inclusiveness" so the public can relate to their so-called relatable characters according to their respective cultural backgrounds. Sorry I ranted a bit, have a nice day.
@legolas_legend2129
Жыл бұрын
I mean ya the Ariel one isn’t as bad as this but why change the original character why not just make a new story with a black mermaid
@foo1ed
Жыл бұрын
Holy crap, that is literally what I just said out loud.
@cardinmalone4974
Жыл бұрын
@@legolas_legend2129 EXACTLY! Disney is just being lazy and stupid. And wasting billions of money!
@ericlima8058
Жыл бұрын
Ariel is also wrong
@Lnclt-tc3ln
Жыл бұрын
"there wasn't really any cultural or historical significance to Ariel being white in the animated movie." Tell that to the Danish people who literally have a statue of the original little Mermaid in the harbour of their capital to honor the original author of the story (Hans Christian Andersen). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Little_Mermaid
@elenjulia8271
Жыл бұрын
Perfectly said, couldn't agree more. These race swaps are completely ridiculous and just scream "we're too lazy to write original poc characters so we make useless live actions just so we can race swap the white main characters and appear progressive". Before the little mermaid, people were like "oh but she's a fictional fish why does it matter" which is already bs, but Astrid is a goddamn norse viking💀💀And the fact that live action tinkerbell and snow white are gonna be race swapped too...I can't even
@HeimburgerMusic
Жыл бұрын
Ah, yes, HTTYD. The story about a Viking village where everyone speaks with a Scottish accent.
@jonkeau5155
Жыл бұрын
Man, characters that are culturally a certain race should remain that race in movies. Cleopatra was well documented to not be black and the entire country of Egypt has every right to be angry, with this movie it’s similar, there were no black people in Nordic culture, or at least they were rare enough to be like a unicorn. If it was James Bond I’d be like “Hell yeah, give Idris Elba a call, get him in here ASAP” but this film is not the place for this.
@fidtgs6032
Жыл бұрын
Saoirse Ronan would be a great Astrid, but not sure what other people would think of that
@Film_Overload
Жыл бұрын
OHH….that’s a good one! :)
@fuzzywuzzy8679
Жыл бұрын
She’s too old to play a young Astrid
@Bucky_Winchester
Жыл бұрын
When it comes to looks, definitely! But yeah, as someone else said... she's too old now, sadly. But about 10 years ago it would've been a great match.
@Quincyslayer
Жыл бұрын
Dude you totally get it. I have been telling my friends how racist this practice is and they just shrug it off they call me racist for focusing on the race of the characters.
@alexandrelagarde549
Жыл бұрын
lmao because it's inately racist to be mad over a cartoon and the color in which they draw their characters lol
@gallowglass3764
Жыл бұрын
@Alexandre Lagarde yeah I don't get why people get mad over me drawing Black Panther as a blonde white dude. Bigots these days, man... smh
@blubirdhill2608
Жыл бұрын
@@alexandrelagarde549If it's so unimportant, why did they bother changing it in the first place? Why does it ALWAYS go in one direction? Would it be innately racist if people were to have an issue with this being done to a historically and culturally significant black cartoon character? You know the answer to that, so stop it with your disingenuous coping nonsense.
@blubirdhill2608
Жыл бұрын
@CowboyChris.0Or maybe there are just a lot of sheep fully ensnared in cultural Marxism and indoctrinated with woke propaganda that he happened to talk to about this. But sure, it's much easier to just call him racist. I'm sure these same people would certainly have strong issues with white people replacing historically black characters en masse, but it's not racist when they do it amiright?
@Ruzzky_Bly4t
Жыл бұрын
Get better friends, I guess.
@mayaplatt9201
Жыл бұрын
The how to train your dragon trilogy is something i grew up with, cannot watch without crying and is by far my favourite movie trilogy ever, it means so much to me. Additionally, it had amazing themes about friendship, leadership, sacrafice, and growing up which i desperately hope wont be lost in the live action. But looking at how live action movies are turning out, im highly suspicious that all of these themes that give the characters and storyline depth, are going to be lost in the name of wokeness. For example i reckon astrid's character will be ruined because of "feminism" (that isnt actually feminism) and particulsrly her relstionship with hicuup will be destroyed. Im really looking forward to the live action but im so worried they will just ruin another brillisnt franchise and i will be devastated if they do. Also why are most of the race swaps done on female characters, whats up with that
@makenziemay5449
7 ай бұрын
Fr bro i cant even get exited about the live action versions of classics! Like they were my childhood I dont want to watch something that completely changes it! Sure some of the things from the old movies are not the best, but that doesnt mean you cant just tweek them, and than go on like it was the original.
@CalvinWitthoft
Жыл бұрын
Nice to see someone who actually thinks straight in this day and age. I was the only one who was excited when a live action HTTYD movie was announced, now that I realize what kind of people are making it that just. . . Dang it live action HTTYD! You just lost your only fan
@Film_Overload
Жыл бұрын
I hear you! The idea sounded tempting, but after the announcement, I had enough of their BS. :)
@LoneSilverW0lf
Жыл бұрын
Five-ten years ago, before the slew of sub par live action remakes, I would’ve been over the moon for this. But as it stands now, especially with the rampant ‘updates for modern audiences’ and ‘diversity’ and them buzzwords, I can only feel disappointment.
@Film_Overload
Жыл бұрын
@@LoneSilverW0lf 100%!!!! :)
@BlueDauntless
Жыл бұрын
@@LoneSilverW0lfYep. I wasn’t excited about the remake because I knew they’d play it like Disney has been.
@jazzk4072
Жыл бұрын
As a 62 years young woman I don’t need to see my ethnicity to relate to characters. You are spot on.
@darkstalkerknight63
Жыл бұрын
the video was clearly racist as his biggest problem was her race and not if she could play the role.
@PoorMustang
Жыл бұрын
@darkstalkerknight63 Buddy, you're wrong. Screwing up an original character design is disrespectful to the creators. The idea is to honor the original films, not to shit on them. It's an adaptation, not a remake. She definitely can look like Astrid with eye contacts and a hairdo but not really. Facial features are a bit off. Even though it's a stylized character, you can see the small and yet wide nose shape she lacks. Also he's completely right. It's more racist to assume that you can't relate to other races than your own. We are all human. Not just you or your country. Everyone.
@erickvallee2548
Жыл бұрын
@@darkstalkerknight63 so batman can be woman is she can play it ? anakin become a girl aslong a she can play it ? could nordic people back then been black no therefore it's historical accuracy that she's white nothing to do with race + changing white role into black ones does it realy help the cause.Helping the cause would be making new caracters not changing old one.
@darkstalkerknight63
Жыл бұрын
@@erickvallee2548 yes. She is called batwoman and batgirl. There are literally 2 of them. Also there are black batman and superman. I know. Suprising huh. There were black nordics and Vikings. So it is historic accuracy. Literally everything you said made it about her race while denying history itself. Even the old ones, they were not white
@darkstalkerknight63
Жыл бұрын
@@PoorMustang "Hjor and Ljufvina had two sons: the twins Hamund (Håmund) and Geirmund. They, too, had dark skin and were therefore nicknamed Heljarskinn; the “Black-Skinned”. Geirmund the Black-Skinned - the black Viking - never became king at Avaldsnes." "Their history in Africa, however, remains a forgotten part of their expeditions. According to sources in the Vikings' fragmented historical texts, the 9th century chieftain Hastein led a fleet to the African coast around 859 C.E. after raiding multiple Mediterranean cities." "There is evidence to suggest, however, that some Vikings had darker skin, and may have originated in Africa" So how am I wrong by sure you have to make it about race and not if she can play the role. You are the one who assuming it is about relating to them and making it about race instead of if she can play the role.
@Daniel__Nobre
Жыл бұрын
I just think it is about time we get new stories and new characters. Too many remakes and reboots.. and your point regarding empathy and relating to different ethnicities is so true.
@angeleslopez5090
Жыл бұрын
I agree with u so much, companies should stop doing this because its annoying and they do not look like the character at all
@dvnnyb0y
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad someone finally put there thoughts in a cohesive manner in order to explain why a lot of these race swaps are no bueno. couldn't have said it any better myself. thank you film overlord
@clairelin0216
Жыл бұрын
First the white redheads, now this. The most frustrating thing about this is that it's only one way, and no matter how you say that the character was established to be a certain way before they changed it, they could never be changed back to the way they were established, or people will say you're racist when all you want is to respect the way that the character was established. Another problem with this is that they ignore the real minority groups when they did this, red hair is a result of recessive genetic mutation that's extremely rare, they're the minorities and I only met like one white redhead in my life and that's it. That is also why in Disney's history, they only had one princess that is a redhead while you can find a lot more princesses in the Disney princess lineup that have blond hair, black hair and other hair colors but never red until Ariel is on the list. And now we're going to do the same thing with the characters that have blond hair? Astrid is a Viking, and because of the region that those people live in, it's impossible for them to have any other kind of people than white people, it's like how you mention Andersen you will immediately think he's a white guy, or when you talk about any character in the How To Train your Dragon franchise you're going to picture them with those white characters, or when people mention Merida, you're going to have an image of a white princess, you're not going to say they're black or whatever. Why did they always say that people have to "see themselves" in characters to be able to like those characters? Growing up, my favorite Disney princess is Ariel because I love her personality and I really can relate to the parental issues, I like Sophie and Howl from Howl's Moving Castle because they have very human problems, for me, the way I relate to characters is often about the problems they face, those very human problems and insecurities are the things I can relate to. Diversity was never just "Less White" of all the white characters that I know of growing up, they're all from different parts of Europe and have different cultures. It seems like now all they want to do is to erase the white characters.
@Film_Overload
Жыл бұрын
You are SPOT ON! :)
@Superkid33
Жыл бұрын
Finally! Somebody who sees that redheads are also a minority XD Really annoying how they keep race swapping things instead of coming up with original things…
@palerider955
Жыл бұрын
It's just racism.
@DrugsAreForWinners
10 ай бұрын
What gets me, is that if we saw a blonde haired blue-eyed woman playing Astrid? We’d be all “OH SHIT YEAH ASTRID!” But if you race swap her, when we see her for the first time it’s like “……wait who??”
@SmallTownResident
8 ай бұрын
And if you dare push back against this in any way shape or form, the libbies will automatically accuse you of being rayciss and hate seeing black characters in TV. First they argued that mermaids aren’t real,what’s their excuse now? Are they gonna cast Zendaya to play Mulan next?
@TheNecessaryEvil
11 ай бұрын
She’s just Astrid after a dragon bbq’d her a bit.
@coreyleighton7340
Жыл бұрын
I'm a white man. One of the characters that I've related to the most in recent years is Luisa from Encanto, a Columbian female character. As an older brother myself I related to the troubles and pressure she's dealing with within that movie. If you can only relate to people who are the exact same ethnicity and gender as you then that makes you racist and sexist. It's as simple as that. We shouldn't cater anything towards people who can only relate to a character that looks identical to themselves. Especially when a story is set in relation to a historical setting, whether the story is fictional or not. I don't expect or demand there to be white people in movies like Moana or Encanto. Imagine how stupid it'd be if they turned Maui into a white man if they made a live adaptation. They just wouldn't do that though. Yet they keep doing the reverse to these kinds of movies with white characters, it needs to stop.
@SabiChan8
Жыл бұрын
But Encanto is ground breaking as there ARE white and black people mixed into her culture. Are we just gonna be blind to that because they speak Spanish. Encanto was great on many levels because it did ethnicity and culture right. It was a melting pot of all people celebrating once culture. Yes, skin color should not be the issue when relating to someone because we are all people. But why do we get upset when there is a race swap to make it more inclusive like Encanto. That doesn’t change the person we relate to and love. I think what would bother me more is if hey kept her white and gave her a different hair color. To me that would be weird. But to make her biracial, as Vikings raped and pillaged, and killed, I guarantee you they mixed and mingled with other color ppl. Just as there are Black German ppl and Black English ppl. Ppl need to stop taking it personal and be open minded to inclusivity.
@Morten_Storvik
Жыл бұрын
@@SabiChan8 At least someone here has common sense....
@123pik1
Жыл бұрын
@@SabiChan8 There are black Germans and black English (black, white, yellow - that's colors they don't need big letters at the beginning) because they are immigrants or their ancestors were slaves or immigrants If we talking about race swapping it is a problem bcs big companies are doing it only because it is cheaper and easier than finding/ creating stories from specific region And sometimes it can create problems with immersion - black people don't fit in stories base on European culture in Medieval time as white don't fit to middle/south Africa in Med times (even the story is fictional) Specifically about Astrid, yeah her hair color is bothering me more bcs actress' skin color isn't very dark
@justinray5124
Жыл бұрын
But coming from a fan who loves Vikings and the movie how to train your Dragon she looks nothing like the character, so why would I want her to play the character in the movie and I personally don’t think it’s not about being racist. It’s about Disney trying to relate to a wider audience to make something called money so who is really racest in the situation and if you would like to respond, could you explain more on how it’s sexist personally, I’m not here to argue just start a conversation I’m a strong believer that dialogue is a important tool to understanding, and I enjoy discussions on subjects like this. Have a good day. Thanks.
@atomictiger4
Жыл бұрын
@@SabiChan8not in Africa. And that’s not an excuse to race swap characters.
@justinfloris715
Жыл бұрын
I'm South African 🇿🇦 I wish a lot more Americans to think like You 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@Film_Overload
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words! :)
@JDogtheAutisticGiant
Жыл бұрын
you're the first person I've seen talking about the "relatable characters" issue. I've had this exact conversation with so many people and agree with you 100%. But nobody else seems to get it...
@AukaiDrawz-jh6tm
3 ай бұрын
The way someone can relate to a character is by their backstory and their personality. NOT by their race! I don't want to be racist but I REALLY wish they chose a blue-eyed blonde with white skin and not the person they picked! This AMAZING franchise is going to fall because of this detail! I would be happy if they picked the actor from Barbie or something!
@emanuellawton7942
Жыл бұрын
Astrid is Nordic so cast someone who looks like Astrid. Maybe you have to use eye contact lenses for eye color and a blonde wig for an actress to play her but Astrid is undeniably white with blonde hair and should be played by someone who at least resembles her in look. Race swapping is becoming too prevalent in Hollywood because Hollywood is pandering to diversity, inclusion and Wokeness to the point of sacrificing the ethnicity or nationality of a pre-existing character or intellectual property.If the studios cast a wider net they can attract a bigger audience so I guess money's speaks louder than aesthetics. With Disney's "The Little Mermaid" struggling at the international boxoffice time will tell if this practice keeps up.The non race-swapping "Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse" is performing much better at the international boxoffice and will most likely more profitable for Sony than "The Little Mermaid" will be for Disney.I hope this trend doesn't continue much longer.
@Film_Overload
Жыл бұрын
You are 100% correct! If these studios want to be more "diverse" then they MUST come up with original stories and characters instead of sacrificing already existing ones. :)
@emanuellawton7942
Жыл бұрын
@@Film_Overload Hear Hear!👏
@rocksteady6945
Жыл бұрын
How do you race swap someone who's white? It's clear that most of the people complaining are totally unhinged.
@rocksteady6945
Жыл бұрын
@@Nika44 The problem with your argument is that they haven’t race swapped anyone. Nico Parker is well established to be a white woman so the complaints are not grounded in reality
@disneytoysr4fun975
Жыл бұрын
She is a white woman. Do you not consider bruce lee asian anymore because he had a white grandmother? Didn’t think so.
@hiyoriiki1155
Жыл бұрын
Astrid is one of my fav characters and I looked up to her a lot when I was 10 years old. Now that I'm nearly 23 I still love her. I always adored her design, she's a badass viking. Now that they've done this I'm so super disappointed...
@dinethrakarunaratna7881
7 ай бұрын
Another thing I noticed is that Hollywood casts mostly or only black people for race swaps. It goes from white to black and rarely black to white unless it is a character from another ethnic background like Tigerlilly from "Pan" 2015 (Which was hilarious cuz Tigerlilly is a 10-14 y/o native American played by a 30 y/o white woman) and Emma Stone playing a Hawaïan Asian character from "Aloha" 2014, and we know what Stone looks likes. I find it incredibly lazy and completely disrespectful for people who are from the same ethnic backgrounds as those characters plus Hollywood is thriving on the idea of "representation" and "relatability" while removing characters from one ethnic background to the next just to appeal to a larger audience instead of making original stories. Like Disney, it's always the money as their main motivation and not actual fan service. Moreover, I agree that it is incredibly dangerous the narrative that we need to look like other people to relate to them is being pushed, like do we need to make sure they have the same hair and skin color before being sympathetic to them? Like personally, Hiccup is a character I related to a lot as a kid, an awkward kid who is shy and feels pressured by family and friends. But I'm not a boy, nor white. Astrid is someone I admire to be and is my role model but I'm not white.
@what77980
5 ай бұрын
I’m just gonna pretend this movie never existed when it come out so that I can keep my childhood memories the way it was
@Film_Overload
5 ай бұрын
SAME HERE! :)
@9Misaki3
Жыл бұрын
Just like they did to Percy Jackson TV series. Percy is supposed to look almost exactly like his father who is a greek god and there has been people who thought he looked like roman god (so he should look like greek/roman, black hair and sea green eyes). Annabeth was supposed to be blond typical California girl with princes curls and stormy grey eyes (that are from her mother, so her skin color would be white but tan from the sun). They race swapped Percy from looking Mediterranean in the books to look like a white kid in the TV and Annabeth from white girl to black. And the best thing is that there actually is quite a lot of diversity already in the books without race swapping any named characters. Like Leah (the actress for Annabeth) would have been a perfect for Hazel (who is black girl in the books). I mean most of the characters in the books have at least 1 parent who is supposed to be greek/roman and there isn't lots of series/movies in america that has characters that can actually look Mediterranean.
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