Update: According to Sonos, the poor audio quality of the microphone has been improved in the latest firmware update.
@Schatten.mensch
3 ай бұрын
Nice to see a major company this committed to reusing tech. For example, the microphone is clearly from a 1950s soviet radio.
@T10107
3 ай бұрын
I did not expect that much sarcasm at the end, but it’s valid 😮💨😂😂
@richmahogany1
3 ай бұрын
and the rest of it from discarded airpods max.
@sercasti
3 ай бұрын
450 usd with that microphone, which makes them useless for calls. Forget it
@Ozzymandius1
3 ай бұрын
There are microphones from the Soviet era haven’t stopped working. The microphones on these are probably kicking the bucket after 3.
@aebisdecunter
3 ай бұрын
Excuse me, but I bet 50s soviet mic (Not soviet, but RE-20 is made since 1968) would sound better than these "noice cancelling to a fault" headphones. I bet it may have a software fix, cos people like ANC on these, and it needs good mics.
@CIKLOPA
3 ай бұрын
$450-€500 and you get that mic quality? Fuck Yeah!
@Mister_Phafanapolis
3 ай бұрын
BUT WAIT! In a year or two you’ll be able to pay _even more!_ for a “Pro” model with an acceptable mic.
@TastySwift
2 ай бұрын
it really is exceptional😊
@Zwackelmann173
3 ай бұрын
Damn that mic is bad
@timothystrode3765
3 ай бұрын
Somethings odd here as I've seen other videos where the Mic is really good.
@itspossible2015
3 ай бұрын
So bad on this review! I've seen other reviews where folks go out into a busy street and mic didn't seem that bad. But still, I've never experienced any headphone mic to be anything but garbage. Sad that Sonos couldn't do better.
@theAFFhole
3 ай бұрын
get a corsair hs80 if you lookin for a good microphone... got a wired one for $50 and definitely dont regret it (wireless ones go for like $60-$80)
@TetraSky
3 ай бұрын
@@timothystrode3765 if the mic is DOA for them, it's part of the experience. Can't control that.
@cuerex8580
3 ай бұрын
@@timothystrode3765 something else is odd. the frequency response looks completely different to other reviewers
@fr0sty_1nf3rn0
3 ай бұрын
Blink twice if you are being held hostage
@isaiahmacadam
3 ай бұрын
Definitely feels like they made more cuts and he held back 😂
@scrittle
3 ай бұрын
"if you like Apple-type sound" burn
@christianbaer2897
3 ай бұрын
2001: A Space Odyssey, Dr. Mario, CDs... James is really driving home the point, that he is "old"
@HagWorld
3 ай бұрын
*That Mic is from 2001 with Dr. Mario-*
@jody.lumbantoruan
3 ай бұрын
can't wait for Sonos issue an update that makes the headphone bricked and unuseable
@potion5682
3 ай бұрын
That mic is atrocious. Truly a calamity.
@potion5682
3 ай бұрын
Edit: NO SHOT. These are $450 USD. HAHA that's absolutely wild. With that MIC?!
@mightymushroom4980
3 ай бұрын
@@potion5682All you pay for is the brand, the headphones took around probably a week to make and tuning probably an hour, overall total dollar wise it's mostly around $20 at max to make, kind of wild how much mark up is on brands
@MalcolmOG
3 ай бұрын
Yup. Came here specifically for that. Sounds worse than apple AirPods.. (the cheap ones with no ANC) That is typical first gen issues... they can always "iterate" and make it better.
@adnamamedia
3 ай бұрын
all Bluetooth headphones have bad microphones
@MalcolmOG
3 ай бұрын
@@adnamamedia Bose NC700 have best mic audio in Bluetooth, boomless headsets… what this is is bad. Airpod basic ones sound like this shit
@casckana
3 ай бұрын
based on that microphone I will be sticking with my sony xm4 and xm3
@yhiz4757
2 ай бұрын
Kings of bloat
@tunder4054
3 ай бұрын
Them: "You be the judge" KZitem community: "Hold my beer"
@prodbyhajime
3 ай бұрын
That frequency response chart gave me Covid
@VexxedSR
3 ай бұрын
They scooped the mids so fucking much you could ride a skateboard through that and get 1 million points in Tony Hawk 1.
@prodbyhajime
3 ай бұрын
@@VexxedSR This makes Harman IE seem like a good frequency response
@your_average_cultured_dude
3 ай бұрын
the more I look at it the worse it gets lmao
@hi_tech_reptiles
3 ай бұрын
I'm the same way with the ear cups James. I thought I could stand touching slightly, then got ear pain after like ten minutes lol. Total no go, gotta have the deep cups for sure. Thankfully Sennheiser is good about that, as is some cheaper companies
@noscopesallowed8128
3 ай бұрын
Yup had this problem for close to a decade with my Sonys because nobody made deeper earpads until recently. It was really bad too.
@neelkrishna
3 ай бұрын
On one hand, I really appreciate the honesty about the sponsorship. On the other hand, I’m not gonna watch a 12 minute commercial 😂
@waterup380
3 ай бұрын
if only it was 12 minutes
@ugur3527
3 ай бұрын
At least you can look at Frequency Response graph which is objective and it looks pretty mid.
@pangbangdang3672
3 ай бұрын
@@ugur3527Tell me a Bluetooth headset with better measurements. AirPods Max fall apart above 2k and Sony xm5 does not even come remotely close to harman
@pangbangdang3672
3 ай бұрын
@@ugur3527 If you normalize this graph they have similar measurements to Dan Clark expanse which cost 4000$
@mrknighttheitguy8434
3 ай бұрын
How long before Sonos brick them, so you have to buy the newest iteration?
@ginanjararyamarta1892
3 ай бұрын
no review on transparency mode?
@Kuubfu
3 ай бұрын
This is why sponsored episodes shouldn’t happen on this channel. Of course they put James on the sponsored review who is known not to be the most technical on his reviews and usually softballs. Then you end the video saying “pre order using our link” after we just seen the most mid overpriced product. This channel should be honest first impressions, not Unbox Therapy.
@BenjaminLupton
3 ай бұрын
They are all sponsored episodes on this channel dude.
@Y3il
3 ай бұрын
0:30 "i got white, i got black, what you want"
@s1mplem4gic58
3 ай бұрын
Immediately what i thought of 😂
@xaj
17 күн бұрын
At 9:23 it became very apparent to me that Sonos is dropping a new sound bar, with the way James mentioned “select Sonos soundbar” which very clearly was a term Sonos made him use, instead of just listing the 1 or 2 models supported by
@KingKikikoi
3 ай бұрын
These run quite hot. I fear the condensation will ruin these unless they bring out other ear cups with a more breathable material
@bigperson_dotk
3 ай бұрын
how long do i have till they brick them too?
@Alice.59
3 ай бұрын
Great ! a other advertisi-... I mean a other totally honest and not biased at all, paid product review
@LiamDilley
3 ай бұрын
It is interesting with the ears and ear cushions. You said it is a problem for you often but fine here. MKBHD said the same but his ears DID touch and was a problem with these. Maybe a quick check in on ear sticky outness as an interesting factoid?
@profosist
3 ай бұрын
Biggest issue is that it doesn't just show up as another Sonos speaker in the app because they're not Wi-Fi capable I think the full functionality would have really sold them
@Afloatingbear
3 ай бұрын
I wish balance was more common for headphones! I have had hearing issues at points and would have killed to be able to adjust the volume for one ear
@zakie2489
3 ай бұрын
So an audio company finally made headphones huh...
@slojanko
3 ай бұрын
Sonos has to be one of the most garbage audio companies out there. We have a Sonos One at work, a 300$ wireless speaker. It does not support bluetooth. You cant use it on a Windows machine for KZitem or movie audio. You need to use an app to link with spotify (and youtube music iirc). It feels like a Juicero product that by pure luck didnt result in bankruptcy. It's a joke how they can charge so much money, and speaking frankly, I've heard speakers that cost 1/3 have better audio.
@josephcavicchiolo5977
3 ай бұрын
Well, just returned mine. To be honest I was very disappointed. Bass is lacking in a huge way and when paired with the ARC - volume at the highest setting is way way too low. ANC average at best, Transparency decent. I compared these side by side to Bose quiet comfort plus, Beats Studio pro and AirPods Max. My ranking - 1. Apple 2. Bose 3. Beats 4. Sonos.
@jaboody123
3 ай бұрын
You guys need to review the Heavys headphones. I would like to hear what you think
@marchogeboom65
3 ай бұрын
A lot of complaints about electrostatic noises in the right earcup. I have used 3 units now and all of them are faulty. No reviewer is talking about it.
@attilab.2818
3 ай бұрын
Because most reviewers are bought?
@PushyPawn
3 ай бұрын
If they can't get a mic right, what does that say about the rest of the product? And $450.. lol
@TetraSky
3 ай бұрын
I fully expect that one switch that does everything to fail sooner or later.
@albertomartin70
3 ай бұрын
He told “you be the judge” then why you people are angry at him? He did not manipulated anything or overhype anything… “you be the judge”. This is the best pay ad I have seen, no intention to skew your opinion about what you saw and hear 🤦🏻♂️
@joeykeilholz925
3 ай бұрын
Fear their software and the ads.
@ubacow7109
3 ай бұрын
I would have liked to know what the FR was w/ ANC off. I imagine sonos would have had much more internal testing to reach an objective target better than that. That FR was pretty bad....
@TuttixD
3 ай бұрын
Dan as audio guy please, I don't mind James I love him, but hallo Dan !
@SlipScope
3 ай бұрын
You guys should publish the frequency response graphs somewhere
@Ambilition
3 ай бұрын
Sooo It's inferior version of xm4 for much, much more money. WILD!
@victorcontreras5703
3 ай бұрын
Didn’t you just turn the base to max in the app is that why you’re saying the bass is very strong lol
@KingKikikoi
3 ай бұрын
Wired lossless sounds incredible on these but why can’t I use Sonos app to change EQ when I do this? Have to rely on Apple Music eq and they aren’t customisable
@rat_lord8985
3 ай бұрын
Minecraft Steve reviews headphone
@ninjaghost860
3 ай бұрын
Is head tracking Distance a thing? if my phone is on my desk and i walk away, it gets quieter too :P
@JayeshBabuAV
3 ай бұрын
After watching this video, watch MKBHD's review on the same product. U will see the difference between a sponsored review and an unsponsored review.
@IgorEngelen1974
3 ай бұрын
I have a lot of Sonos devices but not sure if i'll ever switch to the headphones. The Apple airpod max does everything I want. Unless ofc you guys come up with a super comparison of both.
@B3N0N4T0R
3 ай бұрын
Sonos basically made the speaker with local music useless for a redesign of an app no one ask for and to ad in some overprice headphone with a niche usecase. Luckily I could role back the update on an Android tablet but on iOS I`m stuck with the crappy app. I never buy anything from Sonos again.
@gulla04
3 ай бұрын
Losslessly via Bluetooth? You oxymoron 7:54
@olivereisenberger7215
3 ай бұрын
Lossless compression is a thing
@Nh_audios
3 ай бұрын
You need people who spend real time with these devices. This “unboxing” channels looks at a lot of products with immediate opinions in the video that never get covered with a review late.
@bozzeruk1684
3 ай бұрын
Why is there so little communication from Sonos as to when they are going to fix app issues, I guees to busy promoting the headphones. Adding adverts in to the app makes it feel cheap from the get go, when will they realise that we don't want our expensive music system to feel cheap.. but that's the least of the worries with this new app.. 1 mouth adversary tomorrow of the new app, it's going well!?! I have never had such piece and quiet!
@terenceyan5421
3 ай бұрын
There’s a roadmap and been weekly communication on r/Sonos since the first week of the new app…😂
@shezaherrero
3 ай бұрын
Actually they are communicating a lot on the subreddit
@joeykeilholz925
3 ай бұрын
They could fix it overnight by rolling back to the old version.
@joeykeilholz925
3 ай бұрын
@@shezaherrerogreat.... Did they roll back the trash update yet and apologize for asking the community to beta test their app?
@R3AL-AIM
3 ай бұрын
I'm sure I could go to Guitar Center and find a set without Bluetooth that will sound just as good for less than half the price though. Expensive.
@Soupat2
3 ай бұрын
These things look absolutely amazing, both design and quality. It’s a shame though that they are way too expensive. Maybe in a year or two I can buy them on discount?
@Uncaged_Rage
3 ай бұрын
will the Bluetooth work well if connecting to PC?
@pangbangdang3672
3 ай бұрын
Where can I find the measurements in the video, want to use it for autoeq
@fokerfakerfuker
Ай бұрын
would u buy these if they were 400usd?
@MerlinKapur
3 ай бұрын
Please do a Full Review 🙏🏻 without any Sponsor bullshit
@anthonydiiorio
3 ай бұрын
Hard pass on these. Sonos has completely destroyed the customer experience with the new app and lost our trust. Their unwillingness to compromise is truly baffling.
@mestreatfield7842
3 ай бұрын
the old app, at least for older speakers was utter shit and took half the song to even display the correct name or album cover
@Bjorn93
3 ай бұрын
@@mestreatfield7842 100 %, their app was never good. Maybe the new app will eventually become good.
@J3tBl4ck87
3 ай бұрын
Can you expand on this?
@jonny2085
3 ай бұрын
I LOVE the new app. It's so much more intuitive.
@Trinket_Master
3 ай бұрын
Usually when someone speaks on behalf of everyone they actually speak nothing but their own opinion
@RedDawnWOLV
3 ай бұрын
My Co-worker got his last night and used it while we were updating UCS FI's. Sounded decent in teams. Any real professional would use a SM7B into a Cloudlifter into interface anyways :P
@bryansuh1985
3 ай бұрын
Why would I buy headphones from a company that will brick them in a year or two lol
@f.i.b3027
3 ай бұрын
If you had experience with Sonos bricking your items, why would you consider clicking on this video if you weren’t going to buy it anyways?
@dualtrx
3 ай бұрын
Another pair of headphones that you will have to throw away when the battery dies. Not having an audio jack on it, this should be illegal. I know these are "bluetooth" wireless, whatever headphones... But what do you do when you want to use them with 0 latency on other device that doesn't have bluetooth? Cable is still king for some aplications. They could do that, but they don't want to... The just want you to buy a new one when this stops working.
@aleks138
3 ай бұрын
how long are they going to last?
@horizontal120
3 ай бұрын
I'm not watching any of this videos until you start the videos with PRICE the most important information that all the other information is related to !! 0/10 !
@kentt6320
3 ай бұрын
Compelling hardware, but that mic is absolutely awful. I rarely take calls with my earpiece opting for my pixel buds pro just because the clear calling is so good, so kind of a deal breaker.
@sahilagar
3 ай бұрын
Really love the vibe he brings to assumingly boring videos
@garrisonfjord
3 ай бұрын
I'll stick with my Bose quiet comfort. Best sounding and most comfortable headphone I've ever owned.
@FanaPants
3 ай бұрын
I love Sonos, but that is the most tragic microphone i have ever heard. The string between 2 plastic cups my daughter made the other nignt sounded better. Also, the potatoes i sometimes strap to my ears as headphones have a better microphone. They look nice though 👍
@Chew_bacca1138
3 ай бұрын
Take my Sonos on the Gonos
@PreInception
3 ай бұрын
Got it yesterday and these are the most comfortable over-ear headphones I've ever owned. The main issues that I've had with my AirPods Max is the way the ear cup material feels on my ear/skin and after 15-20 minutes, my head feels like its being squeezed, plus the good looking designed mesh net over the head doesn't support well. I don't need the best sounding headphones but the most comfortable will do!
@harmvzon
3 ай бұрын
If you want comfort, get something from bose.
@VexxedSR
3 ай бұрын
@@harmvzon Or even better, custom moulded IEMs.
@Eilaithen1
3 ай бұрын
Mans got good taste in music. Dr Dre and mastodon ❤
@Resident_Elmo
3 ай бұрын
$450 is wild… No thanks.
@senraXD
3 ай бұрын
$449 and the mic sounds worse than my $20 headset.
@mohamedahmed1023
3 ай бұрын
The EQ setting is a joke and they're asking very premium prices for a headphone that's largely plastic? Hard pass.
@wade196840
3 ай бұрын
Great another sweat creating headphones
@BaconConjurer
3 ай бұрын
Tried these at work last week. Literally only good if you use Sonos speakers daily. Bose are far superior for the same price.
@layol692k7
3 ай бұрын
i still like my soundcore q 30's
@JaedoTae
3 ай бұрын
What are those headphone stands? Love the design!
@notavailable637
3 ай бұрын
i believe they are the called "banana hangers"
@oftankoftan
3 ай бұрын
what's the opposite of a commercial? as in, this is a blueprint on how to deter customers.
@RotcodFox
3 ай бұрын
These don't seem bad, but there's no headphones that are better than my Skullcandy Crusher Evos (especially for the price comparison)
@ErrorMessageNotFound
3 ай бұрын
Are they going to brick it when they decide you've had it long enough like other Sonos devices ?
@kzukijn
3 ай бұрын
You mean a 10-year product. Does any other company support a 10-year product without forcing you to buy a newer one to be technologically compatible? You always have a choice to avoid buying it.
@stickycookies464
3 ай бұрын
I still use a play 5 from like 12 years ago. They don't brick
@itspossible2015
3 ай бұрын
tell me you never owned a sonos without telling me you never owned a sonos. I have the original play 1 and it's still working.
@jack3534
3 ай бұрын
They literally have an app purely for old devices which still gets bug fixes and works
@MyPotentialSongs
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the review 💗
@ToxicPhenix
3 ай бұрын
Hate that brand. Nothing can be repaired. Even by Sonos themselves. Unacceptable
@xXLitronicsXx
3 ай бұрын
I wanna Know wich products you all using in day to day use
@pangbangdang3672
3 ай бұрын
These headphones have similar measurements to 4000$ Dan Clark expanse (normalized)
@VexxedSR
3 ай бұрын
Ah yes because everyone knows that copying a headphones sound signature that has completely different planar driver tech and is open back will sound great in a closed back plastic can.
@pangbangdang3672
3 ай бұрын
@@VexxedSR Sounds way better than Sony xm5
@chickenTeriyakiboy
3 ай бұрын
always knew james was a real one
@xlumyn
3 ай бұрын
PU leather with constant contact with your sweaty head ... yeah, it's not going to last more than 2 years
@dannykit7249
3 ай бұрын
these headphones look exactly like my Bowers and Wilkins PX8 without the beigh and silver. I was gonna exchange the PX8 for the Sonos since I have a full 7.1.2 sonos system in my house, but the sound stage on the PX8s are ridiculous for the price I paid for them.
@sakurazero3641
3 ай бұрын
Sponsored videso are just bad on reviews. Compare them to the xm5 which cost half the price and the sonos get destroyed. Bad app eq settings. Horrible mic and the sound for the price is ok. For 500€. Nah this is almost apple pricing.
@KillerRomantic
3 ай бұрын
This is why sponsored product unboxings are garbage. You’d think people would’ve learn from Lou (unboxed therapy) and not do this shit.
@Sanity016
3 ай бұрын
they seem great except the price is high and the mic quality is bad. I like the features though.
@samdekeyser1996
Ай бұрын
Ik had het veel beter verwacht met 6 spiekers voor hoge en lage en mide klank zou veel beter zijn
@sydive130
3 ай бұрын
Got my Ace yesterday to replace my Bose QC2’s, absolutely love them. Set up was easy, tried them as pass through from my ARC watching the opening sequence of Top Gun Maverick on 4K Blu-ray Atmos and i was impressed! The only disappointment is the case, I think that could have been better. I am sure that 3rd party alternatives will be available soon. Maybe they would fit in cases designed for AirPod Pro Max as the form factor looks similar? All i want from Sonos now is the ability to add front left and right speakers to my Arc, Era 300’s and sub and my life would be complete…….
@krisandersson7156
3 ай бұрын
Way too expensive for what they are and do.
@chaver28
3 ай бұрын
450 no thanks
@SoulRollerFIN
3 ай бұрын
They look good. Will be nice to look at them sitting in the store shelves with that price. ;D #poor
@Mihnea729
3 ай бұрын
Too much for my wallet !
@JohnHanson-ks8fo
3 ай бұрын
Affiliate link doesn't seem to work😢
@svpracer98
3 ай бұрын
$450!! Ooooff. Sorry but that's a hard pass for me. My more "entry" level Sony ANC phones will probably sound just as good while coming in well below that absurd price tag.
@iamlookto
3 ай бұрын
Holy fuck, they are bad!
@greyvlad
3 ай бұрын
Can you guys start forcing your AV team to always use the same mic and headphones to make the audio experience less inconsistent? Editors need to use all the same branded and model headphones, There can only be 1 brand of mic and it needs to be a Mic with max versatility (the latest LEWIT with Lidar is pretty cool) And you guys need a specific Preset/EQ/Saturation curated to work best on all devices. I'm listening to this on my work headphones, sound really bad and mega bassy. Like, 140hz too bassy. switched to Airpods Pro, and it sounds great, but 2db too much on the 3-4k range and 1 db too much on the 2k. Seriously, standirdizing audio experience with a company whose products is Video and Audio first, is absolutely paramount.
@ashutoshsolanki3637
3 ай бұрын
Watch the mkbhd video. That seems more subjective than whatever they did here.
@MysteryMii
3 ай бұрын
This isn’t meant to be a review.
@Naith123
3 ай бұрын
That was a review and this is a sponsored showcase. Inevitable they would be really different experiences
@nielagi5029
3 ай бұрын
Don't you mean objective?
@gmoss101
3 ай бұрын
Subjective would not be the word you mean...
@leonro
3 ай бұрын
@@nielagi5029To be fair, a reviewer's job is to be subjective on the product, whereas any ad (like this one) should be more on the objective side.
@nandofl_
3 ай бұрын
Mic does not sound good to me with strong ambient noise. I get mine tomorrow but if the mic sounds that bad I will return it.
@shockwave4000
3 ай бұрын
Nope!
@erselsiderov3796
3 ай бұрын
Sound audio lossless doesn’t support iOS . Do you that ?
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