It's worth noting that although there is quite a bit of on-street running, particularly in the centre of Croydon, those streets are mostly restricted and only open to public transport and cyclists, not general traffic.
@_CaptainCookie
Жыл бұрын
Church Road is shared with traffic. And so is Lebanon road afaik
@stevieinselby
Жыл бұрын
@@_CaptainCookie I did say "mostly" and not "wholly"! Church Street is effectively local access only, and not used by through traffic. The on-street section of Addiscombe Road past Lebanon Road is restricted to access only at busy times of day.
@dustojnikhummer
Жыл бұрын
Almost like streets being for humans living there and not cars is a good thing
@igorsiuda8108
Жыл бұрын
Both of these brands can also be found in my city, Kraków. And ones of them were produced in the same time as CR4000s, when German branch of Bombardier built original Bombardier Flexities (known locally as NGT6/1) in a form of 24 there section sets (of which half of them have 4 doors and another ones have 5 doors (additional added single wing door in the rear)) and this company was successful here as it also won two additional tenders: one for the trams of the size and look, but the new livery and front and rear, called NGT6/2, in a form of 36 sets produced around 2007 and another one for much longer ones with completely new design, called NGT8 and produced in 2012. Stadler is still producing the 110 trams and it's also caused by the organisation of the major sports event: The Variobahns were produced for 2012 Olympic Games, while Tangoes are still in production for (outside of extention of 50 to Borek Fałęcki (it's completed) and Górka Narodowa (in construction)) 3rd European Games in Kraków.
@John_Fugazzi
Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed seeing everyday London and Croydon passing by. When you see London online it's usually famous places and Croydon you don't see at all. This week's tram and next week's Alpine journey illustrate perfectly, the wide range of the channel.
@catalinpetrescu8488
Жыл бұрын
I like how the tram has the same logo as the underground and the overground.
@_CaptainCookie
Жыл бұрын
That's the generic TFL roundel. You can see the same design on the bus branding, River buses and even taxi stands I've seen with that roundel
@erik_griswold
Жыл бұрын
@@_CaptainCookieAlso the bike share program
@_CaptainCookie
Жыл бұрын
@@erik_griswold sure but boris bikes are basically obsolete now with lime, human forest, and whatever other ones there are that offer electric bikes
@catalinpetrescu8488
Жыл бұрын
@@_CaptainCookie cool :D
@GodAtum
Жыл бұрын
you forgot to mention they also go to New Addington
@igorsiuda8108
Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The Croydon Tramlink was opened in 2000 and has never expanded since, and, now, all tram lines in Croydon aren't numbered (althrough unofficially these still have numbers from 1 to 4), but these have assigned routes: West Croydon - Elmers End (only in case of running to depot, in this case, early mornings and late evenings), Wimbledon - Beckenham Junction West Croydon - New Addington (via full unidirectional loop), Wimbledon - Elmers End.
@alistairreid1262
Жыл бұрын
Interesting report. First time I seen your blog. The Wimbledon branch to Croydon was originally a rail line. I love trams. Originally from Scotland, I remember the original Edinburgh trams and travelled on one of the last Glasgow ones. The driver let me drive a fee yards. A great thrilled at age 14!
@The_Untitled
Жыл бұрын
I went on the trams in January with my dad, we got a thameslink from London bridge to East Croydon to get one. Didn't know about heading to the southern end of the platforms, would've saved lots of time.
@jimmyhillschin9987
Жыл бұрын
The trams are pretty good. Towards Wimbledon at least they replaced a crappy old train service that was being run down and little-used. Now it's very well-used. Not a massive fan of Ken Livingstone, but it was one of his initiatives.
@lordgemini2376
Жыл бұрын
Good ol' Ken had plans for more trams throughout London. What could've been!
@brianfretwell3886
Жыл бұрын
@@lordgemini2376 The coss London one was a good idea. The firts thing Boris cancelled IIRC.
@stevieinselby
Жыл бұрын
IIRC, the train ran something daft like every 45 minutes, because that's what they could manage with one train in service and an end-to-end journey time of about 20 minutes. So the tram now is slightly slower than the train was, but so much more frequent that the door-to-door journey time for anyone using it is likely to be less.
@brianfretwell3886
Жыл бұрын
@@stevieinselby And IIRC an elderly 2 EPB wasn't exactly welcoming for passengers.
@vjaska
Жыл бұрын
@@brianfretwell3886 the southern terminus was ill thought through - creating a one way system around Brixton would of caused so much havoc with buses let alone other road users. Croydon was ideal because the main roads the trams ran along were all very wide like George Street & Wellesley Road whilst Station Road & Tamworth Road wern't as heavily used. The Croydon tram also worked because it took over several low frequency old railways which the southern tram wouldn't of done
@seanromeo7916
Жыл бұрын
I'm headed to London and and the UK in general next summer (first time!). I'm a bit of transit nerd too so seeing all of your transit stuff makes me more excited!
@adlam97531
Жыл бұрын
always enjoy using the Croydon Tram. The traffic in that part of London can be bad at times, and it is easy to to go IKEA or the retail park on it from Croydon.
@stevecooksley
Жыл бұрын
Extending these beyond Beckenham to Bromley would have made a lot of sense although probably too expensive - I know you can change for Bromley South but having trams run through the centre of Bromley would have taken a lot of strain off the crowded bus network.
@mildlydispleased3221
9 ай бұрын
Bromley Council would've said no, just as they voiced their opposition to a tube extension to Hayes.
@eternalturtle2439
Жыл бұрын
Ahh, the nostalgia! Didn't go on them much whilst there, but I remember being on them!
@philipbranco9568
Жыл бұрын
Dylan, can I suggest you do an Irish rail journey; Arrive in Cork, and get the Iarnród Éireann Intercity from Cork-Kent to Dublin-Heuston, then have a go on the Dublin's DART rail from Greystones to Howth, and then the Luas tram from Tallaght to Dublin-Connelly. After that go on the Enterprise from Dublin Connelly to Belfast Lanyon Place, and finally get the Translink-NI Railways rail service from Belfast Lanyon to Derry~Londonderry.
@Benidaku
9 күн бұрын
Nostalgia for me Beckham ,Croydon and all London
@ACrants31
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate that they are definitely not Central London Trams but Croydon, Wimbeldon and the rest of the trams destinations are definitely still in London so I think the name is still justified
@Fan652w
Жыл бұрын
I agree that 'London does not really need trams on the scale of the likes of Prague and Vienna.' But you forgot the obvious comparator - Paris. Paris has of course a very extensive metro similar in overall coverage to the London Underground. BUT it also now has TEN modern tram routes dotted around the various suburbs. London has three just routes concentrated in one suburb!
@DylansTravelReports
Жыл бұрын
I would agree, but Paris' Metro is only just over half of the length of the London Underground, so I'd say it's probably more needed there.
@andybaker2456
Жыл бұрын
Not really concentrated in one suburb though. It may be called the Croydon Tramlink, but Elmers End/New Addington to Wimbledon is a fair distance, and passes through multiple suburbs.
@stephenlee5929
Жыл бұрын
Just sad they don't go as far as Lewisham, as doing so would link back to the DLR and thus the Underground.
@Leojw10
Жыл бұрын
If only trams went as far as oxford street or Westminster
@michaelformaini7053
Жыл бұрын
A neat little video on Croydon's tram system. Unfortunately, I didn't get to experience it myself when visiting Britain five years ago so thanks for the experience. You and others may have already viewed videos on Melbourne's tram network thanks to KZitem sharing relevant links in their sidebar. For comprehensive KZitem coverage of transport topics in my part of the world, may I recommend; ThebusofdoomFSX, Pannier Productions, Comeng998 as three channels worth viewing/subscribing to. Cheers from downunder.🙂😉🙂
@andybaker2456
Жыл бұрын
Strictly speaking, they are London trams though. All routes run through London boroughs, regardless of not going into Central London.
@merccadoosis8847
Жыл бұрын
Seems like quite a good system to me. Every city in the USA should have one in order to facilitate local transportation esp in areas where there are no subways and too few buses. For example, in NYC, a line that runs from Jamaica, NY to East New York/New Lots, down to Flatlands, Marine Park, Sheepshead Bay, and onto Gravesend. There is a need for more public transportation and such a system would fit in quite well.
@_CaptainCookie
Жыл бұрын
That's one hell of a project, if it's going from Jamaica to Gravesend. From the Caribbean to the North sea 😨
@merccadoosis8847
Жыл бұрын
@@_CaptainCookie Such a line would service an area encompassing 900K people. Therefore, a good investment in my view.
@whyyoulidl
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this one Dylan. In all these years, I've still not managed to have a ride on the the Croydon trams so your bitesize review's worked wonders 👍🏿
@Sophiebryson510
Жыл бұрын
Lovely little system. We need as many trams as we did in the 1930s
@davidwilliams8405
Жыл бұрын
Short and sweet, thankfully the sun was shining the whole time.
@TheSpotify95
Жыл бұрын
Those trams seem like a good idea for areas where, as you say, there is little to no Underground or other rail network connectivity. Also, I'm really looking forward to your next video, you've got me intrigued!
@Firitesen
Жыл бұрын
Only a few days ago I saw a tram exiting Beckenham Junction bound for Wimbledon (just for a few seconds since I was on a fast Southeastern train) Last time I used them was going from New Addington to Croydon; much preferable to the buses Edit 2:32 You only need to *touch in* to get on a tram using one of the readers; at Wimbledon though, the process is more complicated
@_CaptainCookie
Жыл бұрын
I always have to double check the signs at wimbledon, to make sure I don't mess up
@DylansTravelReports
Жыл бұрын
Ikr, talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill!
@paultidd9332
Жыл бұрын
I visited the Croydon Tram for the first time in January. I managed to do the loop, though it took some working out to achieve this and what I found is a particularly tram unit does not ping pong the same route all day the loop sets it off on other legs of the network. Something which would be fun to do; just get on a tram and sit their and see how much of the network it covers in a day.
@keithparker1346
Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I suspect you would need at least 3 teams to cover the whole network though who knows?
@CDN_Store
Жыл бұрын
Living in Croydon the tam is great for some people but in reality it doesn't serve anyone living on the north south axis of the borough. Seems the routes were really to draw folk in from rival retail cores and make travel from New Addington easier. I would love it if there was a new route connecting Croydon to Brixton. Yh there's the 109 and 250 but these are the only direct connections and a tram could be faster with less frequent stops and all the advantages it gets at traffic lights whilst offering a cheaper alternative mode of transport towards central London.
@stevieinselby
Жыл бұрын
The main reason that the tram doesn't run on the north-south axis is because there were already good rail services on that corridor - whereas there was no rail service _at all_ to New Addington (population over 10k), no direct service from Croydon to Elmers End or Beckenham, and only a very poor service to Wimbledon that could easily be taken over by the trams.
@bradleykvermeulen
Жыл бұрын
I just started watching your channel , it's pretty great and your knowledge on the trains and the system is amazing, your descriptions make it very Interesting to watch. I was also wondering what do you do for a living that allows you to travel so much? I'm just jealous.
@DylansTravelReports
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much 😁 I make money off running ads on these videos.
@Andrewjg_89
Жыл бұрын
I have been on the Tramlink many times and it’s such a good tram network in South London that serves Croydon and Wimbledon. And the trams are very good.
@Davehearne43
Жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work
@JBFlytography
Жыл бұрын
The section between West Croydon - Wimbledon was a rail line until 1997 and was closed to make way for the trams. They both shared some of the same stations Morden Road, Mitcham, Mitcham Junction, Beddington Lane, Waddon Marsh and even use the same Platfrom at Wimbledon. Cheers for a cracking wee insight, Dylan. Thanks again.
@deco983
9 ай бұрын
Nice!
@AFCManUk
Жыл бұрын
Oof! Felt sorry for you on that Southern service at the beginning there, 3 + 2 Seating is Never good!
@rezaalan3991
Жыл бұрын
Great trip
@thecockerel86
Жыл бұрын
South London needs an extensive tram network, especially as the underground is quite limited south of the river.
@cheetahjab
Жыл бұрын
Awesome work sir.
@paule1927
7 ай бұрын
You need to touch in before boarding. No need to touch out at the end unless your journey ends at Wimbledon.
@beckysonnier6369
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@aviano72
Жыл бұрын
Trams are cool 👍
@CelticGoals
Жыл бұрын
Hey Dylan, just a little side note but being early in the video you said about tapping in and out on the readers, unlike trains this is not true, it runs on a bus system where you only tap on entry, you aren't required to tap upon exit
@fgrion
Жыл бұрын
just a small correction: you don't need to tap out in any station apart from Wimbledon, and the reason is otherwise you might be charged the nation rail fare. Moreover, if you come in from the main barriers at wimbledon you have to tap twice, once at the entrance and once before boarding the tram. I guess you have just been "unlucky" to get off to the only station which requires tapping in and out and it made you think you have to do it at every station :)
@gillianderoiste2097
Жыл бұрын
How do they know where you got off then and you could be still charged the national fare
@fgrion
Жыл бұрын
@@gillianderoiste2097 it works the following: if you get in or out any station in the network, apart from wimbledon station, you don't need to touch out as there is a flat fare of £1.75. At Wimbledon, as the entrance/exit is shared with the nation railway, not only you need to tap in/out, but the tram itself has its on validator which let the oyster or contactless card know that you have used the tram.
@Welshy1717
21 күн бұрын
They are cracking......i will be going back to ride them
@fin720s
Жыл бұрын
'which serve a very niche little network south of the Thames' mate it honestly isnt that small, it serves many purposes and has really high ridership
@louisthetravelspotter
Жыл бұрын
amazing review dylan mate them trams do looks amazing
@samtrak1204
Жыл бұрын
I love your historical commentary and photos.
@DylansTravelReports
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Group51
Жыл бұрын
Valid opinion Dylan. Really need a lot more of these systems all over the country.
@fortythreenorth2518
Жыл бұрын
Nice scenic journey. Unlike the underground where you're in a black hole most of the time.
@AnatolyDyatolov
Жыл бұрын
Nice video, love the London trams
@DylansTravelReports
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@martinaltmann4031
Жыл бұрын
Well, Paris also has a "very somewhat" tram service😅 2 or 3 short lines in the north.
@Fan652w
Жыл бұрын
No! Paris now has TEN tram routes. Unlike similar size London, the routes are scatter all around the city's suburbs.
@trinity1181
Жыл бұрын
Great Video, lived in Croydon for 7 years and the Trams made life so much easier
@Marcsharp82
Жыл бұрын
While it's confusing how to pay (I kept looking for a ticket booth) it's great that once you tap in you don't have to tap out....unless you get off at Wimbledon. The only station you have to tap out.
@matthewjburt6482
Жыл бұрын
DON'T TAP OUT. YOU COULD LAND UP PAYING TWICE.
@transportlegend.shorts
Жыл бұрын
Pls do these Reviews Dfds Dover-Calais/Dunkirk Megabus M20 Glasgow - London Glasgow Subway Great Western Railway London Paddington - Penzance
@JohnTalbot-k6xi
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Rid Along !! enjoyed it
@markomarten
8 ай бұрын
Maybe the modern trams as it were could be used to increase travel in south west London. From Earls Court westwards the train is ok but not great. London is supposedly a 24hour city but you can find it difficult at times to travel as the transport system is a bit hit & miss. I don’t think the “snail rail” as I call the train from south west London is that quick and a comprehensive plan to improve it would probably not just benefit TFL but also the areas effected too. I think there should be a 48hr return ticket on the train so you can stopover night and return the next day, the ticket system is not straight forward and you do have to be careful as each train company makes its own set of rules and exceptions. London deserves better and the trams offer a sensible approach to the current system.
@johnburke5384
Жыл бұрын
Very informative Dylan, thank you....
@wclifton968gameplaystutorials
Жыл бұрын
It was only until a couple of years ago that every tram stop had a ticket machine (manufactured in the late 1990s) so that you could pay your fare with cash but all the ticket machines have been removed probably due to their age, maintenance costs and that almost nobody ever used them (in over 15 years of using the trams I have never seen anyone using one of the now-removed ticket machines). I think its also worth noting that I believe you are able to buy tram tickets from the National Rail ticket machines, at Wimbledon at least but I don't know about the other railway interchanges because the stations are not managed by SWR who therefore use a different brand of ticket vending machine (TVM) last I checked at East Croydon Rly Stn.
@OhHiyal
Жыл бұрын
Used to take them rather frequently. A nice little service.
@thomastaylor6595
Жыл бұрын
Hey, great vid as always, any plans to ride the Edinburgh tram as a video in its own right? Think it featured in the plane vs train race buy only briefly.
@DylansTravelReports
Жыл бұрын
I think I will next time I'm in Edinburgh.
@thomastaylor6595
Жыл бұрын
@@DylansTravelReports looking forward to it, thanks for the reply Dylan.
@aelfweard9242
Жыл бұрын
Used them for my daily commute before retirement. They get very busy at times, do not miss the 6.15am crush-a-thon to Wimbledon. Still very good value when using with buses.
@minisquad5633
10 ай бұрын
It is annoying that they dont run them in pairs to improve capacity.
@FIN86fi
Жыл бұрын
💯👀
@ChineseTrainGuy
Жыл бұрын
Amazing videos as always!
@claircond1491
Жыл бұрын
Ty
@davidaarthur
Жыл бұрын
It's a pity they didn't keep expanding it to other suburbs (and that they abandoned the nicer and more Londony red livery).
@Tommyevansbackup
Жыл бұрын
Or smart card with a Travelcard on it
@tonymcdonnly6492
Жыл бұрын
Good information to know when visiting London.
@GodAtum
Жыл бұрын
i want to know more about yr bad trip to birmingham!
@iandrew6347
Жыл бұрын
Hi Sir great video I don’t know that there was a tram service i the london area i have learnt something new thanks
@MattN3
Жыл бұрын
Amazing video once again! I think you should do what's the best way between Lincoln and Peterborough l. Is it LNER or EMR?
@TheSpotify95
Жыл бұрын
LNER 100%
@claircond1491
Жыл бұрын
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@spottymaxy1628
Жыл бұрын
I hope you'll consider making a video on the London underground and maybe even overground
@johncrwarner
Жыл бұрын
I have done the Chur to Tirano train twice at different times of year but have never done the Croydon Trams.
@johncrwarner
Жыл бұрын
My favourite was my least successful one We went in October and it was foggy most of the way and the announcements told us in FOUR languages about the wonderful sites but we had about 1 metre visibility LOL It had cleared by the time we got to the tethered cow though.
@harryelliott4310
Жыл бұрын
London Trams
@Abnerbandanovotempoinscrito1mi
Жыл бұрын
Boa tarde Dylan lindo vlt vídeo como sempre incrível Londres
@tee.f.n
Жыл бұрын
If we could get trams in SE London connecting busy bus routes like Lewisham - Catford- Bromley that would be great as they aren’t served by anything TfL except buses
@williamkettle8666
Жыл бұрын
System is crying out for expansion.
@smurfman6377
Жыл бұрын
My home city has up graded the transit system with full size buses and added an experimental route. Getting where you need to go may involve midtable transfers on the8 fixed routes that run every hour.. At my age it cost $0.50 with free transfers
@lazerjetjordanscottcrawfor2008
Жыл бұрын
you forgot to do Glasgow Central to East Kilbride
@andreawoelke
Жыл бұрын
Great video. Your pronunciation of Swiss and London station names needs a bit of work though. 😊
@fintytin5771
Жыл бұрын
Nice to see you visiting my manor dear boy !!!
@MrLeightonWest
Жыл бұрын
The trams and dlr look very similar but the dlr is express like
@Waddon
Жыл бұрын
I know right
@britishmapping1759
Жыл бұрын
that is because the dlr and trams are both light rail
@MrLeightonWest
Жыл бұрын
@@britishmapping1759i see
@millercool21
Жыл бұрын
You should do Megabus!
@transportlegend.shorts
Жыл бұрын
Ah Very Good Very Nice Pls Do Glasgow Subway, Glasgow To London Megabus, Sydney Metro, Flixbus Video, Barcelona Metro
@tsungiraichiramba
Жыл бұрын
Did the tram challenge back at start of 2020 and it’s good to ride on it
@metrowake11
Жыл бұрын
Great video although you don’t need to touch out when getting off a tram normally
@Rick-ov5jm
Жыл бұрын
your awesome love your videos i cant wait till fridays to see them
@DylansTravelReports
Жыл бұрын
Thank you 😁
@videonut1988
Жыл бұрын
London needs more light rail lines besides the TramLINK.
@DylansTravelReports
Жыл бұрын
Got the DLR too 🤷♂️
@Blueguy6666
Жыл бұрын
Dylan can u do Buses For the trips?
@paulwheeler4283
Жыл бұрын
I challenge you to visit the West Midlands metro
@OfficialTrainboy2598
Жыл бұрын
I have a suggestion, do thameslink from horsham to Peterborough
@OfficialTrainboy2598
Жыл бұрын
And another is LNER refurbished class 91 and DVT sets
@OfficialTrainboy2598
Жыл бұрын
Or the Azuma, I wanna see one tbe above
@claircond1491
Жыл бұрын
Dndjf
@fin720s
Жыл бұрын
The first map you showed is well out of date
@seprishere
Жыл бұрын
Be careful at Wimbledon though as the touch in/out arrangements are not intuitive.
@iandrew6347
Жыл бұрын
Hi Sir
@transporthub_
Жыл бұрын
My local station is East Croydon
@garethsmith2250
Жыл бұрын
Welcome to the south east..work In Chichester 😊
@christophernoble6810
Жыл бұрын
Actually it’s generally regarded that the bus network in London is the best part of the overall public transport system. Compared to Paris it does not come out well. For the size of the population (about 3.5 million) Berlin is far superior to London. A decent trolleybus system is desperately needed for London. It had one once and getting rid of it was the worst decision that could have been made. 🤨
@Leojw10
Жыл бұрын
London underground trains better transport than buses
@claircond1491
Жыл бұрын
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@Danny-mv9qj
Жыл бұрын
Shame it's in Croydon 🤮
@midnight_styx
Жыл бұрын
Why the emoji tho ?😂
@paulhollis8879
Жыл бұрын
Wow, that must be the cleverest comment ever.
@mildlydispleased3221
Жыл бұрын
It could be worse, it could be in Bromley or Havering.
@claircond1491
Жыл бұрын
Ffr
@DylansTravelReports
Жыл бұрын
This might be somewhat controversial, but I think Croydon is fine! Nice enough town centre and it seems like a lot of money has been put into it over recent years.
@EdgyNumber1
Жыл бұрын
Uh oh... Chiltern Mainline is usually hassle-free. It'll be interesting to see what happened.....
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