Tectone is bald - This is a factual statement Tectone is bald, so he looks like shit - This is a negative statement based on a fact but because it's an opinion it cannot be considered defamatory cause it's subjective Tectone is bald, because he wants to make fun of cancer patients - This is probably slander because it is a false defamatory statement but the court still has to prove there was both malicious intent and prior knowledge by the slanderer that their claim is false
@GymbrGleam
5 ай бұрын
How would you prove the slanderer doesn’t agree with tectone on that premise they felt was obvious but shameful to act on. They think tectone is saying what they themselves think but that’s a bad thing
@AdamTuxTengler
4 ай бұрын
Good explanation of slander, but I don't even understand why they got so focused on the word "slander". If Hoyo decides they don't like your ass, they won't allow you to post video from beta server. They don't need to explain it to you, they have all the power to approve videos posted from the beta. And if someone reacts to the video and they don't like their ass, they will copystrike it, YT will remove it and it will never see a light of day in court.
@remixchillz7419
5 ай бұрын
Kinda weird how tectone takes some random screenshot of a translation at face value, but requires evidence from his own cc friends that they can critique the game
@solomonwatson9401
5 ай бұрын
I was waiting for someone to say this.
@HapyFriendsShoppe
5 ай бұрын
THIS EXACTLY. Thank you omg.😅
@jawbonedis
5 ай бұрын
yeah bro i cant f****** believe he believe that one guy screenshot even though that guys isnt part of the program
@AyoCoffeeSama
5 ай бұрын
from a leaker aka the one who made that telegram message, who's a known clout chaser.
@innovated435
5 ай бұрын
How does that random screenshot relate to anything, how do you know he took it at face value, he was talking about the concept as a whole, Brax's video was enough evidence for him to talk about it, so he was asking questions to know more about what can be critique and what can't be critique, I don't get it, why can't he ask for evidence, he like everybody else is trying to learn more about this contract that is only accessible by a few. Tectone has too many blind haters man, picking apart something as dumb as this as a reason to whine about him, lmao.
@poklours4257
5 ай бұрын
Tectone just doesn't understand how criticism works. You can see how he is so insistant on saying "this character is shit" and the others saying "i wouldn't put it like that", and then he's saying they are not free to say what they want. This is because unlike him, they don't make content around being provocative and using this kind of language when discussing a character. And he can't understand that not wanting to talk like his exemple is something CC genuinely want, because that's their personnality, and they have an audience that doesn't get off on actual slander.
@statesminds
5 ай бұрын
Lol
@IncubiAkster
5 ай бұрын
You seem very good about making assumptions and telling other people what thry think. Psyxhic powers be strong.
@S3ymira
5 ай бұрын
Even I don’t like many of tec’s point I do understand that why he hates corporate. When employees don’t stick together and somebody sell your information just to close with the boss the whole team will suffer. I think most American cc have that freedom of expression but Asian cc have more corporate pleasing mentality. So they don’t get along. To some extent they are both right and it should be a balance. So it’s not only tec has problems other so called cc who doesn’t speak up also are the problem here.
@thederp9309
5 ай бұрын
@@IncubiAksterit’s just basic observation… considering that this statement has been going around in essentially every community outside of Tectone’s for quite a while… it’s by definition Tectone’s echo chamber, that’s why he bans or completely disregards people’s opinions with insults and bans
@innovated435
5 ай бұрын
I think you don't understand what was being said, when he says 'this character is shit' he meant criticizing that it's is bad / or to not pull for the character, his reply does not answer anything, it is so vague, how do u get anything out of it, he was not talking about the language, just criticism in general. There was no slander involved.
@reivell3699
5 ай бұрын
Sometime i wonder if these "Content creators" (god i hate that name) never work a real job IRL before. You want to talk sh*t about a company 24/7 and expect them to still invite you to their creator program?
@totallyahololivesimp
5 ай бұрын
FOR REAL, I study business ethics in my major and holy shit these "Content Creators" have no common sense
@uglypancake3146
5 ай бұрын
i guess they look on this situation like consumers not like workers so they dont like that some consumers get more privileges
@natebeal18
5 ай бұрын
Constructive criticism != Shit talking.
@Rimurusama24
5 ай бұрын
@@natebeal18constructive criticism my ass. Tectone has never done any of that
@Boarbatrice
5 ай бұрын
They’re KZitemrs who make videos on gacha games. Of course they’ve never worked a real job before
@EveCurseBearer
5 ай бұрын
This is what happens when you skin pompom alive and use it as a onesie. THE CURSE OF POMPOM
@nitrix620
5 ай бұрын
I just pictured what you said.Now i cannot unsee this 🤣
@brighteagle-
5 ай бұрын
Tectone needs to hear himself here. 1:14:00 "If they were to release a character that was bad, Not Acheron... Can you say: 'this character is sh*t, don't pull'" "I Personally wouldn't say that--"Cuts him off "and there it is..." Dang Tectone, the company is offering select content creators the ability to post content earlier about characters and doesn't want them to be Cursing and act with some level of decency when the content creators are representing their company's product to the public. Clearly with everything that has been said prior to this point, you can freely criticize the characters and say "this character is *bad*, here is why, so I suggest you don't pull unless it changes" Another main point Tectone brings is that the barrier to entry for Content Creator's is going to an even larger wall because now they need to be selected, which although the parameters to get selected are unknown, if a new content creator is producing some fantastic content and is pulling in 30k-60k views a video ( Like God Doggos) while keeping some level of respect and professionalism, They're probably going to get selected. I'm not going to ride on hoyo's d*ck here but the only things that are truly bad about this, is, yes the unselected creators like Mtashed are a little screwed in the short run here until they get selected. (short run being maybe just this Acheron banner and maybe even Aventurine's banner) And yes the copyright striking reactions to these videos is also dumb as rocks.
@poklours4257
5 ай бұрын
I swear he was so frustrating with this argument that goes nowhere. Just glad he left there, because the discussion instantly became healthier and more productive without him.
@stock6600
5 ай бұрын
Have you ever heard about term "access media" ? Dicktone is unironically correct here, wtf
@IncubiAkster
5 ай бұрын
Preferential treatment makes you want to say good things about a product disingenuinely. Theres a reason accepting gifts from a company wanting you to review their product is unethical. Only letting peiple you know will say good things and not criticise is not ethical.
@innovated435
5 ай бұрын
But you and Xlice are focusing on the word "shit" but that not what he meant, he obviously meant criticism as a whole, Can you talk about the character in a negative way and recommend people not to pull or do u have to be all positive about it. 🤦♂ IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CURSING or any level of decency. There is a big misunderstanding here, they both didn't get each other. Tectone had to leave early but i wish he stayed so he can clarify with xlice.
@ScarletX4
5 ай бұрын
@@innovated435Brax made a new video about how he can freely state his opinion. Why don't you watch it first?
@louisarnebQP
5 ай бұрын
Really dont wanna throw a shade on Tectone and Mtashed, but this video showcases why they have their reputations. First one is raging without trying to understand other parties perspective and lashes out without half of info. And other is just doomposting over and over again without even trying to calm himself down and look at a bigger picture.
@Martegz_
5 ай бұрын
This give me a perspective on those two from this stream
@summerbun9765
5 ай бұрын
They really highlighted their worst parts and reputation lmaooo tectone raging and always thinking he’s right and mtashed overreacting and crying
@Cicilovescorgi
5 ай бұрын
I think that’s just their branding at this point. They feed on dramas and make livings out of it. Toxic.
@dzeklakovic7568
5 ай бұрын
Who really cares about millionaires ranting, both are absolutely detatched from reality
@GarethXL
5 ай бұрын
@@Cicilovescorgibranding? that's such a nice way to say their actual personality this has always been well known in the gacha community and the only people that think that this is all an act are their r-tard fanbase hell tect is such a drama whore he actually tried to gaslight one of the few people in the world that consider him a friend (Asmondgold) to start shit with his editor quite recently when trying to boycot genshin to make the company do what he wants goes nowhere (the conversation was posted in one of asmond clip channel last mont or so with a bald Asmond thumbnail if not mistaken)
@SundayMatinee
5 ай бұрын
1:04:28 Tectone has a misconception of what Hoyo is and is not allowing CCs to say. Hoyo is NOT preventing CCs from saying a character is "not good for F2P". Xlice has proof of this for Acheron. Hoyo is NOT preventing CCs from saying a character is "not great". Brax and other CCs who have access to the test server have said that characters aren't good. Brax's has proof of this for Dehya and others. People SUSPECT that if you say "Hoyo is a dog sh*t company who employs slave labor" your video will not be allowed to be published. If you do publish it, you will HIGHLY LIKELY never get access to their test server again. By the way, this could count as SLANDER. slander: 1. Oral communication of false and malicious statements that damage the reputation of another. 1. A false and malicious statement or report about someone. If you knowingly say FALSE or MALICIOUS statements about Hoyo, then that is SLANDER. Of course if you SLANDER Hoyo, Hoyo will 100% not choose to PARTNER with you. Hoyo is a business. Any business that knowingly partners with someone who SLANDERS them is a BADLY RUN BUSINESS. Hell, if I worked at a business and knowingly partnered with someone who SLANDERED that business, I'd expect to be FIRED. Tectone seems to think that you can't say anything negative about an upcoming character. That is ABSOLUTELY FALSE as per the examples by Brax, Xlice and others. Tectone thinks that you should be able to say anything you want about a company. You ABSOLUTELY CAN. BUT, don't expect that company to partner with you. Hoyo has NO OBLIGATION to partner with Tectone or MTashed if they don't want to. Given the negativity from Tectone in the past and EVEN IN THIS CALL, any employee at Hoyo would be a fool for partnering with him. Given the negativity from MTashed in the past, I can understand why nobody at Hoyo would want to work with him. NO BUSINESS IS OBLIGATED TO WORK WITH ANYONE. NO CONSUMER IS OBLIGATED TO DEAL WITH ANY COMPANY. That's just how capitalism works. Tectone needs to learn to deal with it.
@nk30020
5 ай бұрын
I think it's honest to slander hoyoverse for nerfing the hell out of chiori (on this topic alone) in the beta cuz it was a bad decision. Slandering chiori herself is partially covering the truth cuz in reality she was nerfed.
@zackang4731
5 ай бұрын
@@nk30020 "Chiori is nerfed too much because now her damage is too low compared to other characters" - This is criticism "Chiori is nerfed too much because Hoyo wants to make a weak character and suck players money when they wish for a useless unit." - This is slander The difference is in what the talking point is. A criticism is about the reasoning/opinion. Slander is about using the feedback to drive a negative image It's always fair to criticize. It's never fair to slander. (BTW I don't know what was nerfed because I don't watch beta/leaks or guides.. So those were just examples)
@NicholasLacourse-yz6iz
5 ай бұрын
"NO BUSINESS IS OBLIGATED TO WORK WITH ANYONE. NO CONSUMER IS OBLIGATED TO DEAL WITH ANY COMPANY. That's just how [capitalism] works." [capitalism] should be replaced with [market]. You were sensible up until that point. Lol
@prednisolnisolon7638
5 ай бұрын
100% agree my man
@vetreas366
5 ай бұрын
@@NicholasLacourse-yz6iz What do you think capitalism is?
@pixelpuppy
5 ай бұрын
as a player, I watch multiple guide videos, because each creator has their own take. this seems to be a test to see if Hoyo can pre-empt against leakers, similar to Genshin drip marketing. Time will tell.
@sawyerseth9832
5 ай бұрын
Same I have certain content creators that I will always watch their guides for a character I'm interested in. Even if I've seen multiple guides for that same character before. Cc's have always had to to find ways to stand out from the crowd. I don't see this changing that too much
@mahkeemdehmah10boo87
5 ай бұрын
As Pokke said himself, HSR is not a deep game. There is a limit to how much differentiation people can have in this game and when we are talking guides there is even less room for that. Unless we are talking about Niche teams but that justs reaching. And just to make it clear since there are weird0s online. This is not an opinionated subject, This is facts and I’m making sure this is known right of the batt.
@prednisolnisolon7638
5 ай бұрын
the early access is not even a guide, just to show the potentials of acheron
@pixelpuppy
5 ай бұрын
@@mahkeemdehmah10boo87 it may not be deep, but the content creators are different. Brax and Sevy have a more casual approach, Guobacertified and Pokke have a more in depth approach while Pokke focuses on CN, IWTL does showcases, while Mtashed and Tectone do drama. This "early access" doesn't change that. If it's all about the guides and nothing else, then why are there several unique creators in this space? My point is, everyone has different tastes, and there's enough variety for everyone.
@mahkeemdehmah10boo87
5 ай бұрын
"everyone has different tastes" I mean sure thats true but when it comes to the what they are saying in those guides, There is not much room to differentiate, That's my point. You can like another CC more because of the aesthetic of their videos or editing, The CC's way with words or maybe you just vibe with their vibe yourself, That's all fine and dandy. But in terms of what they are trying to teach? Not much room to differentiate there. I love Sevy for example, I can pull up her Pela guide and then compare it to at least 6 other Pela guides and they all tell you pretty much the same thing, Just with their own choice of words and different presentation. Basically you've seen 1 good guide for the character you are looking to educate yourself on, You've seen most if not all of them already because of that (thats why CC's try to get vids early, See Mtashed reaction to this he touched up on that). I still watch many guides from many CCs just to see their opinions on stuff like Eidolons and just to have fun chilling with their vibes. And that's just a byproduct of how HSR is, Which is not a bad thing. Many like HSR because they want a turn based RPG that is simple and that flows well while you turn off your brain, That's HSR's strength, Not its weakness. @@pixelpuppy
@thewobbinator8410
5 ай бұрын
I agree with Xlice. I think the Creator Experience Server is the HSR Devs way of having some kind of reign on leaks. Leaks are always happening and it ruins the game experience, but if HSR Devs can, in a way, "authorize" content creators to "leak" character kits a week in advance, then I think it's a step towards the right direction. The timing may be off, I admit. Acheron is so hyped right now and everyone wants to get a piece but since it's only available to a handful of people, it sucks, but i think it's only a phase of a greater plan to improve guide making and the player experience. I believe they do not want to cause strife between CCs. A lot of things needs to be worked on, yes, but that's the beauty of it, it CAN be worked on. HSR has only gave a ton load of great updates so far and it shouldn't be disregarded. Just a bump in the road. We all just need to be level headed. ✌️😁 #twocents
@exia1984
5 ай бұрын
I agree with this.
@zukodude487987
5 ай бұрын
Leakers leak months in advance, if you think a week early reviews is gonna combat leaks then you need a reality check. Unless they release content months in advance then you wont really combat it. A week or even 2 weeks early wont change diddly squat.
@eckology016
5 ай бұрын
It honestly does not do much of anything about the leaks that matter which is what makes it feel like it could be ominous. The amount of consumers bothered by character kit leaks are basically no one. The amount of people bothered by story leakers is mostly everyone as seen by the reactions across a million different communities to Shaoji's comments on the live stream (and basic common sense, most people want to see movies rather than read the wiki summary of those movies except a few weirdos who spread story leaks like wildfire until they become known by people against their will due to folks posting leaks as 'theories' in unspoiled discussions).
@thewobbinator8410
5 ай бұрын
@@zukodude487987 Fair. But I did say some kind of reign on leaks. At least they're actively finding ways to address it and I appreciate that.
@afnan6474
5 ай бұрын
?? leaks literally build hype for characters. most recent example being Acheron or arlecchino for genshin. story leaks on the other hand are just cringe
@setsunaaottg291
5 ай бұрын
Tectone really showed us the meaning of dicktone while rudely leaving the call when nobody agreed with his opinion (even his own chat) and on top of that the audacity of this man to call asmon and proceed to explain the situation to him removing a lot of the relevant context to sway the argument to his side is just RESPECTFULLY disgusting.
@KakavashaForever
5 ай бұрын
Typical tectone.
@JohnCivor
5 ай бұрын
Oh he call asmon?.. damn he is like a big toddler that go to his daddy if someone bullying him lol. 🤡🤡🤡
@innovated435
5 ай бұрын
But he was right in the end, it was just that some people in his chat and xlice didn't understand his question, there was NO arguments in the first place, pls elaborate on the relevant context that he sway ? He left because he was obviously frustrated with his chat for misunderstanding what he was asking.
@setsunaaottg291
5 ай бұрын
@@innovated435no he was wrong because the people who already had the early access server already told him several times that they were allowed to say a character is bad they’re just not allowed to slander on the company itself or to slander a character without any justification. Then after leaving and getting into a call with asmon he then proceeded to tell asmon that this whole content early access thing is access journalism when it clearly it’s not.
@justcrap3703
5 ай бұрын
@@setsunaaottg291 But that's the problem Tectone was pointing out. Tectone was criticizing Genshin but ALL OF YOU Genshin fans LABELED it as SLANDER. That's the effing point. A CC could claim it's criticism, but Hoyoverse and YOU GUYS could say nope, it's slander. In short, he doesn't trust Hoyoverse to differentiate criticism from slander when every criticism about their game was labeled Slander by the community.
@LightCrossZX
5 ай бұрын
I dont know but Tectone not being able to differentiate slander and criticism is abit concerning to me. Like man has done videos on Genshin characters, like come on 😂😂😂
@Gray_V1
5 ай бұрын
Well, to be totally fair, he is a big advocate of free speech, which lets anyone say anything anyhow, and in his books, slander means saying negative things that are also wrong, which is the textbook definition, the whole thing that doesn't make him any less wrong cuz this whole thing is Bullshit and bad for the smaller CC's, he just needs to learn how to calm down and formulate his thoughts and Handel his anger better.
@quangtuantran7181
5 ай бұрын
@@Gray_V1 Rlly? From what I ve seen his definition of slander is just saying something bad. He kept asking them "if a character is bad can I say they r bad", n just pushed the narrative that bad = slander
@LightCrossZX
5 ай бұрын
@@Gray_V1 yeah, that's fair. But even then, people would generalize the "Acheron being fire Hunt" as misinformation. I just think that slander is more of a deragotary kind of thing. Like Tectone isn't wrong about considering "X character being shit when they're good" as a statement of slander but it's not gonna damage her position when at this point, we know that Acheron is crazy.
@santo2sexy
5 ай бұрын
I thought it was funny too when everyone's trying to explain the difference with calling bro dumb, but also cause Slander and criticism are used so interchangeably its unfair to say that people (especially in genshin) call him out for "slandering" even though its criticism (vice versa).
@Gray_V1
5 ай бұрын
@quangtuantran7181 no cuz that's what he thought hoyo saw as slander see what i mean? He thought that hoyo would judge any negative comment as slander and get rid of it, but they tried to explain to him that they could indeed be critical they just needed to do it in a more sophisticated manner, but after that he got mad at another point it being that they can't be critical without being sophisticated which in itself is a form of censoring, and teccy for better or worse Is a huge advocate of free speech so he believes that people can say whatever they want however they want for example "This character is shit" in his mind people have the right to say that instead of needing to go like "Oh thid character is bad because..." Hope thid helped you understand a bit better.
@insertnamehere2022
5 ай бұрын
GENUINELY RESPECTFULLY NUCLEAR DRAMA ☢️
@traincore1955
5 ай бұрын
Xlice sounds like that burnt out old friend that is tired of their other friend and just gave up with having a normal discussion a long time ago
@insertnamehere2022
5 ай бұрын
@@traincore1955 Tectone struggling to understand him and then he just leaves 😂
@incrediblygay
5 ай бұрын
Its just the usual "drama" farmers, there's no actual drama its just for farming views.
@鐘葉
5 ай бұрын
Even his chat wasn't on his side so he just rage quit and ran to asmon papa for therapy lmao
@harmonyflores5475
5 ай бұрын
xlice and brax trying to talk to tectone and mtashed who are throwing tantrums over something in the long run very minimal is the best comedy i’ve seen in a while from hoyo creators
@Synchronizebud
5 ай бұрын
It always amaze me how they always find something new to get upset for. 🤣
@summerbun9765
5 ай бұрын
Actual man children lmao idk how anyone takes them seriously
@heilamwether8911
5 ай бұрын
@@Synchronizebudfr. Then we have box2 who was able to understand the situation almost instantly, bro’s 2 pea brain might finally be growing.
@jilvermazariegos
5 ай бұрын
Gotta put respect on Box2 name 💪
@harmonyflores5475
5 ай бұрын
@@jilvermazariegos The Goat Himself 🔥
@lululumpia
5 ай бұрын
mtashed and tectone have always been the biggest clowns of all the youtubers in this space but they really took it to another level with this shit lmfaooooo
@FatalGaming250
5 ай бұрын
Trying to change Tectone's mind is like trying to get a 5 star weapon with just a single pull in the entire banner's run and also winning the 37.5/37.5/25. It's impossible.
@shrrewb
5 ай бұрын
the funny thing is, in the beginning he was like "im very reasonable" yikes
@SundayMatinee
5 ай бұрын
1:10:40 Slander, as used by people in casual conversation is: 1. Oral communication of false and malicious statements that damage the reputation of another. 1. A false and malicious statement or report about someone. Slander, in a LEGAL sense, generally must be 1) provably false information about a person or company 2) harm said company or person and 3) knowingly and maliciously been said by the offender. An example of a negative comment is "Acheron is a shit character and nobody should pull for her." Hoyo can't SUE you for slander because 1) this isn't PROVABLY false and 3) Hoyo can't PROVE that you don't believe the character is shit. Yes, it is harmful to them. And as such, Hoyo has EVERY RIGHT to kick you out of their CC program. NO COMPANY HAS ANY OBLIGATION TO WORK WITH ANYONE ELSE. An example of SLANDER is "Hoyoverse employed slave labor to create this shit character Acheron so that they can STEAL your credit card information and siphon all your life savings!" Hoyo can SUE you for SLANDER because 1) they can PROVE that they don't employ slave labor and they can PROVE that they don't steal your credit card information. Hoyo can PROVE that these statements cause them harm (via comments by viewers, etc who decide NOT to pull for the character, etc.). Hoyo can convince a jury that any REASONABLE person would know this statement is FALSE and MALICIOUS. So in this case it IS legally slander. And yes, Hoyo CAN sue you. And of course, they can kick you off their CC program. CCs CAN criticize a character. CCs CAN criticize Hoyo. Hoyo CAN kick these CCs off their CC program for MANY reasons: For SLANDER of course. For criticizing Hoyo, yes. For criticizing a character, yes. ABSOLUTELY. It's their CC program. Does Hoyo kick CCs off for SLANDER? Haven't seen it but it would make sense. Does Hoyo kick CCs off for criticizing Hoyo? Brax, Fob, Xlice all have criticized Hoyo and they have CC access. So NO they don't. Does Hoyo kick CCs off for criticizing a character? ABSOLUTELY NOT. Brax and Xlice have PROOF of this with Dehya, and Acheron respectively. Again, Hoyo has NO OBLIGATION to work with ANY CC. It's a partnership between a company and an independent freelance worker. EITHER side can decide to stop working with each other. That's JUST HOW BUSINESS WORKS.
@bobiwobi15
5 ай бұрын
Tectone went nuclear cus he misunderstood 'slander' , he didnt listen to them at all.
@gluesniffingdude
5 ай бұрын
Tectone tries not to misrepresent everything he comes across challenge (impossible)
@prohanta9360
5 ай бұрын
He rage quit the podcast because he didn't know the difference between "this character isn't good, only pull if you really like the character" and "this sht character don't pull"
@reivell3699
5 ай бұрын
I like the part where he said "I just want freedom of speech" as he ban everyone from his chat that told him that he's wrong.
@kenkaneki3873
5 ай бұрын
@@reivell3699I like the part were he's asking for freedom of speech from a chinese company that doesn't have freedom of speech 😂 Edit: For clarification I'm talking about how *only* the US has freedom of speech so Teccy asuming foreign countries have to comply with it just doesn't make sense lol
@ALL_FOR_NOTHING_
5 ай бұрын
L - for baldass tectone W - BRAX Facts
@eckology016
5 ай бұрын
This is a bit harsh, but to Brax's point about very small creators getting shafted, it's not Hoyoverse's job to make content creation viable for people. Game companies don't owe content creators a living. They have to consider the realities of screening videos and screening access to the server like Pokke said, especially because they do have such an extensive issue with leaks (although honestly it shouldn't matter for this guide-related stuff, as the leaks that cause problems for the consumers are story leaks and betas don't need to have the story content available, knowing character kits is good for people so they can plan better) and if that means that smaller creators struggle, it is what it is. People who are small creators are mostly small creators for a reason. People with entertaining personalities are going to inherently end up the big creators no matter how many endarounds Hoyo puts out to tilt the scales on views. Pokke's guide could be three weeks late and I'll still be watching that over other folks I find less fun to watch.
@shellst5840
5 ай бұрын
This. Hoyo is a company at the end of the day, they're looking for what's going to bring in the most profit. They don't care about CCs unless they're paying them to advertise something, and CCs don't care about how much money Hoyo makes as long as their games are big enough to attract views. It's naive to pretend that there's any kind of relationship based on care here
@thatokperson
5 ай бұрын
No obligation doesn't make it right. No one is arguing they don't have the right just that it's immoral and bad for the community in general
@thatokperson
5 ай бұрын
@@shellst5840I know but is wrong to hope for better treatment that is atleast mutual beneficial. Is it really that bad to hope or ask for decent treatment. I don't really expect it but I can atleast hope that active sabotage like this doesn't happen.
@reivell3699
5 ай бұрын
@@thatokperson Moral works both way, Mtashed shouldn't have mental breakdown on Hoyo that lead to his blacklist in the first place, the guy legit have mental illness, he needs to get himself checked.
@ytwaldan
5 ай бұрын
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@TimTolik
5 ай бұрын
So I think that Tectone is really pissed just because he can't react to these "early access" videos (eg. Braxx's guide). I really like listening to baldie but his whole content past year fully consists of reactions
@dedpal
5 ай бұрын
thats what you get for listening to his *senpai* asmongold on how to earn money
@Gray_V1
5 ай бұрын
His reactions to guides make a lot less views that his other reactions though, I feel like he was just mad because his chat was spamming dumb shit the entire time and he was also mad because it affected his CC friends really really badly.
@pixelpuppy
5 ай бұрын
sounds like another bald reaction streamer lol
@toxickingchristian2645
5 ай бұрын
100%. He can’t profit off others work. Shame
@statesminds
5 ай бұрын
While reaction content is the meta and is lazy he does be saying a lot during it lol also a company releasing something to the public to view then saying you cant post about it is a little weird
@SundayMatinee
5 ай бұрын
1:01:34 Businesses can decide to partner with whomever they choose. Hoyoverse can choose ONE content creator to be their official spokesperson. This ONE person would have full access to all pre-release servers. Hell, this ONE person could have back office access to their development team and even their game design team. EXCLUSIVE access. And this ONE person would be able to create EXCLUSIVE content about Hoyoverse games. This is 100% allowed by LAW. There is nothing ILLEGAL about a company choosing partnerships. It's done EVERY DAY by EVERY COMPANY when they decide who they do and do not want to do business with. Even CONSUMERS have the right to choose who they do and do not want to do business with. A consumer can choose to play ONE game. A consumer can choose to give that ONE game EVERY penny that consumer has. That is their RIGHT. That is their CHOICE. Tectone is saying that it's "unfair" or "unethical" for Hoyo to CHOOSE their business partners. It's "unfair" or "unethical" for them to work with these partners for Hoyo and the CC's MUTUAL benefit, at the exclusion of other CCs. Sorry Tectone, that's just how the world works. Hoyo, as a company, can CHOOSE to work with whomever they want. Tectone wants to paint Hoyo as this "evil" corporation that is purposefully hurting CCs. That's just plain dumb. Hoyo, as a COMPANY wants to maximize their profits, legally of course. It is in Hoyo's best interest to CHOOSE the BEST partners who will make their company as successful as it can be. If I were a manager at Hoyo and someone was working for me that made a partnership with a CC who SLANDERED Hoyo, I would fire that person immediately. If I had a person who worked for me and REFUSED to partner ANY CCs unless ALL CCs could be included, I would fire that person immediately. And if I didn't fire these people, I myself would soon be fired. Companies aren't charities. Companies operate to maximize profits (legally of course). Tectone needs to face the facts of life. There isn't infinite resources for everyone. Given limited resources, people who want to run profitable businesses must make HARD choices. They must pick and choose who they partner with. And those who don't get picked just need to up their game. That's the facts of life.
@reezwave
5 ай бұрын
I legit can't watch or listen to the podcast in this vid cus Tectone is in it. I still subbed to him and watch him sometimes but whenever he's mald about something, it will just be an annoying tantrum for an hour at least. Like dude, chill tf down ffs. And try to admit mistakes for once if you're wrong about something.
@exia1984
5 ай бұрын
Yeah true. Teccy really need to calm down and accept what the other say about this issue. He base his argument from a screenshot that we dont know is true or fake and he rile up that this will happen again just like what happened with Genshin few years ago. I know he is very worried about the smaller CC's in this platform but Brax and Fob have make a great argument that the HSR devs will listen to their audience and all this is just a test to see how everything works out just because they want to prevent leaks in the future. If its backfired, i think the devs will stop this creator servers to avoid any misunderstanding.
@kenkaneki3873
5 ай бұрын
Tectone and baseless accusations go hand in hand When he's made up his mind about something he refuses to acknowledge he's wrong
@hiroshiichirou
5 ай бұрын
Agreed to some extent. When Tectone's made his own opinion, most of the times, he's unfortunately solidifying it and believing it like a gospel and wanted to share and make others understand it throughoutfully. I don't mind him being loud, bald, or whatever the haters called him, cuz it's one of his 'charming point' as a Content Creator. The only think I dislike about Tectone is that sometimes he's not open to correction, even if said correction is the truth or legally/respectfully/factually correct.
@ytwaldan
5 ай бұрын
This. I genuinely like the guy, but after watching his tantrum and non stop malding just left a weird taste in my mouth. Even when the chat tells something he wont agree, cuz he wanted to hear what he wanted to hear.
@reezwave
5 ай бұрын
@@hiroshiichirou exactly this, thank you. He always claim his opinion as a fact, that's the most annoying part imo.
@Nbrvin
5 ай бұрын
Lets be real, if Tectone got selected for the same program, he would push out the content, and if anyone complained he would say "sucks to suck". Hoyo doesn't owe content creators a career and clearly, there was no preferential treatment in terms of selection. Now if the same creators were given priority every time, that would be an issue, but as things remain, it is up to the creators to innovate keep the audience engaged. I am not fan of their practice of striking the channel, that is an issue. But if they are associated with hoyoverse, then they have to follow the rules, standard NDA process, what is the point of giving a few CC exclusive access if bigger CC can post a reaction video of it. GeNuInElY stupid.
@Gray_V1
5 ай бұрын
No he fucking wouldn't, back in the Genshin days he did get selected for that partner thing where you get a glider if you sub to a genshin streamer and guess what? He said no because it was absolute bullshit, I still don't understand why people try to antagonize him so bad.
@santo2sexy
5 ай бұрын
Yeah ngl thats just blatantly a lie, this exact situation happened with genshin and the glider twitch drops. He never did it even though he was selected as a creator for it, bc it was unfair to smaller content creators.
@Soulferno
5 ай бұрын
@@Gray_V1Probably because Tectone does have issues of his own that he has never worked out in all these years. I don't hate the man but his general personality, content driven mindset, and a near incapability of looking at things past his own viewpoint is a recipe for disaster. He does get a lot of hate from onlookers who don't care for context but he's not some perpetual victim that needs defending when he actively antagonizes people and steeps himself in drama for views. His reaction to this situation right here is very telling of his mindset and how underdeveloped it is, choosing to be reactionary only and while he can use the excuse that it's to put on a show while pointing out the real issues, it's more indicative of him as a person. This has happened many times before even for the smallest of opinions, takes and disagreements. He's entirely too stubborn to accept anything other than what's already in his head unless directly proven otherwise with mountains of evidence. It's just how he is so it's not at all surprising that people take issue with him and even be like me who feels like they have a grasp on his person. It's because he's very open and he's shown a reoccurring pattern of behavior. It's really not that hard to understand
@xenoemblem7
5 ай бұрын
@@Soulfernothat's why he's blacklisted I guess?
@pillowhead4456
5 ай бұрын
@@Gray_V1Why was it bullshit? It literally meant to help smaller creators get more views and subs from people dropping in for the glider. How is that bullshit?
@Umdraelteryx
5 ай бұрын
Tectone genuinely not understanding what slander is feels like he still has negative emotional baggage from Genshin that is misconstruing what is actually prevalent, but his narrative is just unyielding and won't accept anything that challenges his "narrative".
@jeffl4147
5 ай бұрын
Well it doesn't help that Hoyo was not at all communicative when these changes rolled out. The anxiety got even worse when they claimed they would be able to strike any creators reacting to said footage which genuinely should fall under fair use even if it is footage from testing stages on the beta/creator experience server. Tectone def does still have some negative feelings from all the Genshin shit but he's gone on record saying this change won't really affect him and his channel, and I am inclined to believe him. While other CC's like Gacha Smack, Mtashed, Volkin, Iyo may have their livelihoods affected.
@thatokperson
5 ай бұрын
Here's the thing yes and no. Yes some of it is exaggerative and he is stubborn and poorly articulating points and yes it because he has memories of a near identical incident in Genshin. But also no because not all his point are invalid and at its core this has a negative impact on the community. The fact so many people are split on this is proof of that.
@jeffl4147
5 ай бұрын
His points are mostly valid until Hoyo proves us otherwise I feel@@thatokperson Xlice having access is predictable and while it's not like I hate him but I get a feeling he is partnered with them so his entire call just came across as tone deaf paired with his shit examples of "watching an anime for the first time". He truly has no horse in this race as a Whale CC for Genshin/HSR
@ALL_FOR_NOTHING_
5 ай бұрын
L - for baldass tectone W - BRAX reality check
@pureinnocentchild6453
5 ай бұрын
@@ALL_FOR_NOTHING_speak English please, not all of us can understand monkey
@williamlin9343
5 ай бұрын
only thing gained from this video is my respect for xlice genuinely atomically certainly honestly authentically
@HapyFriendsShoppe
5 ай бұрын
Same here. He is articulate and don’t just throw a fit for drama
@crazygamer84
5 ай бұрын
I am honestly more annoyed he talks like a politician and not answer whether or not certain things can be said.
@Gaeul-j3j
5 ай бұрын
@@crazygamer84true he will run for the presidency soon .
@Zythroxes
5 ай бұрын
@crazygamer84 bros been doing genshin for a while it's a trait they all picked up yet hsr fanbase seems to be completely blinded by this, how is this beneficial for CCs and players if hoyoverse is gaining even more control because these heavily respected CCs will now have to "censor" in a way leading to them saying things like "well they are pretty decent but with a con or lightxone they'll be OP
@crazygamer84
5 ай бұрын
@@Zythroxes Yeah, i agree with you there. Which is why I mentioned I was kinda put off by how Xlice keeps avoiding the question and goes back to saying how Acheron is good and shit, when the question was IF she was bad, are they allowed to say negative things.
@DuonDRaven
5 ай бұрын
Pokke so on point, if they would have just trailed this on Aventurine the results would have been sooo different lol.
@crimsonraiderxv3422
5 ай бұрын
I feel bad for the first random chatter who questioned Tectone and got mods sent to ban him just for not understanding the supposed situation immediately 💀.
@cynicalducky1041
5 ай бұрын
I agree. I felt so bad for that person. They could have just been a HSR player that dropped into Tectone's stream for their first time to ask a dumb question and they got banned and got a first class seat to a temper tantrum.
@robinkoh6830
5 ай бұрын
ngl tectone really burnt down the kitchen with this one... hearing this really put out the fire his video was painting.
@Shikon_Jewe1
5 ай бұрын
The whole discussion I was genuinely pissed off with Tectone and his tunnel vision. He refused to listen and accept anyone's arguments especially when they aren't adjacent with his own. He constantly was yelling and putting up the doom signs talking about hypothetical scenarios that either haven't happened, never will happen, or will ever be a valid problem.
@atbuivan35
5 ай бұрын
@@Shikon_Jewe1 So people finnally realized what kind of person Tectone actually is???
@FloatingAmongTheCosmos
5 ай бұрын
Not the first burning honestly.
@jawbonedis
5 ай бұрын
@@Shikon_Jewe1Same bro like omg as if like he was affected by it even though his blacklisted he said "Oh i was worried about my friends being like not honest and not open what they think" like bro stfu in future more CC will get this access too.
@innovated435
5 ай бұрын
Bro but there was no fire to begin with, they are having a podcast to discuss about the recent contract that is affecting them and a lot of thecontent creators, let them talk and clear things up, they can argue all they want. his haters out in full force today trying to find reasons to crucify him, lol
@rickykun22
5 ай бұрын
Funny how mostly the non-guide making HSR CCs are the ones throwing the biggest of fits--as they are the ones least affected by this. They're taking the FOMO personally. I don't know the details of how Hoyoverse decided to distribute the CES to, but it seems like they picked reliable, well-established guide-makers. Fortunately for Pokke, his content is more than just guides so he's not as affected by this. I think a certain "drama" CC needs to calm down and respect the business decision of a successful game company who know what they're doing.
@MefoWho
5 ай бұрын
all i see is tectone mad cuz he cant react. Cant continue after he said "just put a beta trailer when character is in beta, then re-release it on their release" part.
@HarzinLolz
5 ай бұрын
@@MefoWho he said that? lmao
@thatokperson
5 ай бұрын
@@MefoWhoLiterally what is stopping him from reacting to it a week late. And also valid??? Are we fans of copyright abuse now? You know this agreement he didn't even agree to obviously wouldn't stand up in court right?
@MefoWho
5 ай бұрын
@@HarzinLolz i didnt write down the timestamp so you will have to slog through his yapping, sorry. its around the middle part onward i think
@MefoWho
5 ай бұрын
@@thatokperson the only point he clinged on is small cc will be fked not because theyre small, because the early vids will get all the attraction and people wont even bother to watch guides at release.
@ArtanBlacknight
5 ай бұрын
Tldr of the video: Could be worrysome in the future but there is a chance that it could be a nothing burger, lets see a few patches to see if this good idea turns out to be bad. Too bad for MTashed who will probably never to get in. Also trying to explain a perfectly rational thing to Tectone is impossible since he will constantly ignore, talk over others and move the goalpost.
@PawClow
5 ай бұрын
Genuinely curious on why MTashed wouldn't be eligible? 😯
@TheKnightCrafter123
5 ай бұрын
@@PawClowits their first attempt. for example the first time Apple allow tech content creator to get device early its only like 5 creator and now its over 20
@FloatingAmongTheCosmos
5 ай бұрын
It usually is a nothing burger.
@ilhamai123
5 ай бұрын
@@PawClow wasn't he blacklisted from hoyo?
@Kyyon_
5 ай бұрын
Tectone unironically turned into the guy he beefed with before, soul. If ykyk
@p3rs0n014
5 ай бұрын
He didn't even title it as NUCLEAR or ATOMIC drama. damn
@Xeun3603
5 ай бұрын
U know it's gonna be serious 😅
@jawbonedis
5 ай бұрын
I was so pissed at tectone during this podcast his just keep making random as bullsh*t like "Ow hoyoverse are a picking prefered CC for this program" like bro ofcourse they would, because it was a test so if they see it works perfectly fine then they will add more CC's also he said "CC's will not be open and honest on their opinion" brax said he can literally said the X character is bad if its bad. I will clarify one thing because on some part tectone believes if he reacts to the video brax will be terminated like no u are the one getting copystrike if u react to the video not brax. Hoyoverse literally said to your face stop reacting content make ur own content😂😂😂 ok in this part im just trolling so dont take it seriously.
@user-yb1ye5sm6y
5 ай бұрын
Tectone's complete meltdown on his own chat and rage quit is exactly why he's blacklisted lol. What company would want anything to do with that shit show?
@Mihreszs
5 ай бұрын
Pardon him, he went from being homeless to a millionaire because of Genshin, he never had a real job before.
@orion.6
5 ай бұрын
@@Mihreszs never watched him but I'm confident he's had sponsors before and surely he must know that companies care about how they are perceived by customers right?
@recker4267
5 ай бұрын
I think that this problems don't affect the players in a negative way because brax confirm himself in the call that he can say that a unit is bad if the unit is bad and he can recommend to people to not pull for it, this issue really just affect the cc's
@lknisha
5 ай бұрын
b-but we need to make drama contents! o-otherwise, how about my adsense's revenue? - tectone and mtashed, probably
@rim-1or4wr1y
5 ай бұрын
@@lknisha L comment, hoyo didnt communicate the qualifications or contract or whatever clear enough so brax had to step in and speak Regardless, its still going to affect alot of CC and ruin their livelihoods. Mtash DOES DO analysis of character builds, so this affects his livelihood to a degree. Tectone said himself this doesnt affect him but it affects his friends and he is unhappy about that, to say the least. He did also have the belief that hoyo was planning censorship like how genshin became or whatever but that was mostly due to hoyo's lack of communication or explanation. This was a sudden and abrupt change not many or any understood and alot of people jumped to conclusions because of prior experiences and their impression of the company. Again, this whole situation was only (somewhat) cleared up because BRAX spoke out. Not being able to make guides does not equal to not being able to make drama content... as your comment suggests...
@reezwave
5 ай бұрын
Exactly, they're exaggerating it to the max. It's just a week early difference, and that will affect at the most part smaller channels. Someone like mtashed lose absolutely nothing lol. Who even watch mtashed for guides let's be real, I love him but I watched him cus he's funny and I love to see his takes on the characters. Now for someone like mrpokke who's in the middle, I think it's still okay cus Every guide makers provide it differently, like mrpokke who provides guides and who to pull based on CN opinions and his own.
@recker4267
5 ай бұрын
@@reezwave i actually feel bad for the cc's because i like them but saying "oh this issue affect every hsr player" is just a massive cap
@prohanta9360
5 ай бұрын
@@rim-1or4wr1y it's not affecting "a lot of cc", only guide maker. The thing is, only specific partnered cc that can access the test server while mtash and tectone are blacklisted. So, it will only affecting mtash for as long as he's still blacklisted since he makes guide, he'll left out by anyone who has given access to test server a week earlier than non partnered cc. In other words, people will not watch tash video because people already got the info early and his guide no longer relevant, he lose viewership or if his guide misleading, people will notice quicker
@zacyu208
5 ай бұрын
My brain hurt hearing Tectone yapping
@teamhebi13
5 ай бұрын
hes annoying at times
@GerriFuryman
5 ай бұрын
sadly it 99.99% of times @@teamhebi13
@FloatingAmongTheCosmos
5 ай бұрын
Any normal person's brain does.
@NeginoSora
5 ай бұрын
same here, losing brain cell everytime he open his mouth
@Zerocyxone9
5 ай бұрын
@@teamhebi13he’s annoying everytime…
@KakavashaForever
5 ай бұрын
Personally as a customer I love the idea of official information coming sooner, and to be completely honest I don't care if its 'fair' to all content creators or not. Ideally yes that would be great, but for me its not a deal breaker if its not.
@frangusable
5 ай бұрын
Ikr, life is unfair, get used to it
@Catalyna
5 ай бұрын
@@frangusable yea this is just reguritated content being spewed by content creators to have content.
@sasdasdasdasd4950
5 ай бұрын
like, for real, if you can't compete, sucks to be you then
@zukodude487987
5 ай бұрын
My issue is that they consider publicly approved content as leaks. That is not how leaks work.
@exu7325
5 ай бұрын
Then why threaten non-approved CC from reacting or making content based on what is now completely public information? Nobody cares about officially approved talking heads, the complaints are about using DMCA to intimidate and police non-approved CCs on that 1 week gap.
@BryanSo100
5 ай бұрын
Explaining to tectone about truth is same as talking to wall or want to change from oil to water. Waste your time and impossible mission.
@Mr_wisk
5 ай бұрын
this is such big content creator problem but such a good idea for the players
@justjuniorjaw
5 ай бұрын
Can't wait for a content creator to just say it as it is. "Hello everyone, welcome to today PomPom guide. Just level up everything, press auto equip, enter any combat scenario, and press auto. That's all. Thanks for watching!"
@rlstrength
5 ай бұрын
FR a lot of the guides consist of flat out rewording the trace descriptions and making up some imaginary priority to level them
@anujmgrroshan
5 ай бұрын
damn, how do you know how I play?
@YuriDSC
5 ай бұрын
Auto equip is not a thing, the shit I've seen the system equipping on characters is wild. The rest of the comment is pretty accurate
@arufianz
5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info now i also can be a successful guide maker
@rexevan6714
5 ай бұрын
Leaks will happen no matter what, I think hoyo come up with this so that they react to these CC early play?
@thatokperson
5 ай бұрын
But here's the thing the leaks are around 5 weeks before this if I'm remembering the timings of these different servers. So it won't even combat that. I genuinely don't know what the thinking was behind this. To leak to more people 😂
@Bing..chiling
5 ай бұрын
@@thatokpersoncmon its the first time they doing this, and this move is absolutly kick leaker's ass 😂. I think they will fix some flaw about this new system
@thatokperson
5 ай бұрын
@@Bing..chilingI sincerely doubt this will stop anything, they have had literally years to try. The most I can think is this is an attempt to get people's eyes off of leakers but there has been no news of these timelines changing for 2.2. I can confidently say this will not affect the leaks in the slightest. Especially with how bad it is currently going over
@exu7325
5 ай бұрын
It's to try to control the narrative and information flow when it's closer to the banner. Leaks and calculations do affect day 1 sales, most people aren't "mains" who will pull no matter what.
@jjwang_safari0813
5 ай бұрын
@@thatokpersonWell, it depends on what type of leak it is. In general, the animation and skill set won't change after the initial leak, but the stats of characters are subject to change until release (or 1 week before that). But in the past, many leakers would just make biased comments on characters based on a specific beta version of them and claim the character to be "awful," and their opinion dominates the entire narrative because normal players can't determine whether these opinions are right or wrong until the official release. The most recent and infamous example would be Neuvillete, who most CN leakers claim to be a "bad, minus 1 constellation character" before release and turned out to be the most OP thing in the Genshin game. At least now, you can get early information from more credible sources and content creators, and that will take away some of the leakers' powers to affect the narrative. I just hope that good content creators won't be the collateral damage in the battle against leakers.
@ItsWoop
5 ай бұрын
What's crazy is that Prydwen had to take the Acheron numbers down because apparently they're even copyright striking the number data..
@THEM0J0MAN
5 ай бұрын
The fuck? Really?
@thatokperson
5 ай бұрын
And people are saying it can't be bad
@Catalyna
5 ай бұрын
@@thatokperson she needs her LC without her LC she is a 4star maybe even worse for DPS, otherwise she is a super low DPS NICHE Breaker but anyone can do that if you give them enough Break and Speed stat...
@xenoemblem7
5 ай бұрын
@@CatalynaThat's delusional. Even the worst 5-star DPS is still better than 4-stars. At worst F2P Acheron will be as strong as QQ, yes QQ!
@deadaccounthaha3053
5 ай бұрын
@@Catalynain brax’s video she literally hit 600k with good night sleep well s5. keep yapping ig 😭
@Mihreszs
5 ай бұрын
MQuit life cycle - "GAME SUCKS I QUIT" - "Hoyo please forgive me" - "GAME SUCKS I QUIT" - "Hoyo why did you not invite me to your program?" - "GAME SUCKS I QUIT" - "Did Hoyo just singled me out of CC program? Im gonna cry to my wife"
@GearOFFBlack
5 ай бұрын
I think he is just stressed out because he has family to feed and his livelihood is always in flux with Hoyoverse. If there is a big drama that makes Hoyoverse sink (like Blizzard), all his income will be in the dumpster. I hope he realizes that his community still supports him with or without the Hoyoverse game.
@pillowhead4456
5 ай бұрын
@@GearOFFBlackThen simple, don't talk shit about a company that you're relying for your livelihood. He's been shit talking about the company for years and now he's not in a program with them, he's doomposting 💀
@lenfent
5 ай бұрын
@@pillowhead4456he knews so mush he's been talking shit about company, he he already know he wouldn't get in. And make him like the victim "oh no I got to call my wife, my carrer ruined by the company" and his audience talking shit about hoyo in twitter (already happen)
@totallyahololivesimp
5 ай бұрын
Mtash talk shit about Hoyo and is surprised why he's not in the program 💀 who the fuck wants to hre people that talk shit about your company.
@NorthernWind26
5 ай бұрын
Shut up dude
@Ghrifter
5 ай бұрын
TL;DR : So... Tectone want Mihoyo to let CCs speak freely but when they disagree with him, he rage quit the podcast. Great way to show what kind of freedom he wants... Especially after 20min of CCs trying to explain him people can criticize the game without being vulgar. 1:14:00 he twisted everything to fit his narrative I'd like to thank all CCs to keep their own opinion and stand for it The more I see Tectone content the more I tend to agree to the fact Tectone want to surround himself with yesmen/women...
@Iyoverse
5 ай бұрын
This comment section is healthy as heck (I'm not being sarcastic). Pokke, I didn't even think this would become a video on your channel, but appreciated the opportunity to speak up alongside you, Xlice, Tashman, and everyone else on this matter! It affects a small number of us CCs, but the effect itself can be HUGE if Hoyo isn't careful.
@catalyst1858
5 ай бұрын
Tectone is the embodiment of ignorance, getting offended on behalf of other people despite said people not being nearly as concerned as he is, since everyone else knows he clearly exaggerates issues like these. He's overly emotional and won't state his points clearly and then blames it on everyone else for not understanding him when he didn't make any sense the first time he stated his point. He's obviously not wrong, but the way he expresses his viewpoints is tantamount to a child throwing a big tantrum, and then expressing the same viewpoint a second time rationally instead of emotionally.
@planetary-rendez-vous
5 ай бұрын
He needs parents, he's always reacting and slandering shit it gets really tiring. Drama in any games he's in.
@daierosen
5 ай бұрын
'He's obviously not wrong' that's his whole point, the way he delivers a message or a criticism of a character should not matter if it's the truth, I could yell out at you "Hey you dumb piece of sh*t there's a killer behind you" and you are that guy who would be like "The hell did you just call me!? Why don't you come here and say that to my-AHHHHHH" like bruh
@arthuserza2696
5 ай бұрын
Your description of Tectone is almost the same as my description of twitter
@MeryKeit
5 ай бұрын
how do you call him “an embodiment of ignorance” at the beginning of a paragraph and then say “he’s obviously not wrong” at the beginning of the next one? 😂
@bobjones2959
5 ай бұрын
At one point he says that he thinks people should be allowed to slander as much as they want. Then mere seconds later, he tries to define "slander" as misinformation. So is he trying to say he thinks people should just be free to post misinformation in their guides?
@AgentSephiroth
5 ай бұрын
Who genuinely gets their leaks via something like YT? Everyone I know gets their leaks from either reddit or some other forum on the internet and have to go out of their way to look for them.
@juampisito
5 ай бұрын
Honey hunter
@Kastor774
5 ай бұрын
Me. Because I DON'T LOOK FOR LEAKS. KZitem's clown search algorithm is the only one who actively doesn't search what you want it too. Me: Man, I want to listen to some Sinoalice song KZitem: DID YOU MEAN [GENSHIN 4.6 BOSS THEME] Honestly sick of it.
@reivell3699
5 ай бұрын
IDK if you're trying so hard to be obtuse, but leak got suggested by youtube all the time. "Hey wanna see this new character that have wing and can fly on the water? don't want to? Too bad, here's the thumbnail!:
@winningsonn
5 ай бұрын
I mean.... Leaks are good for us f2p players so we can plan better
@ytwaldan
5 ай бұрын
I just hope that the leakers dont spoil directly on the thumbnail and put warning on the title first.
@aditradityagreed8067
5 ай бұрын
genuinely if i was hoyoverse and i see content creator like tectone why the hell i wanna give him the access And let's be real do this affect guide maker that much?? I think no is not that much, they already have loyal viewers, another content not just guide, make a money from streaming etc I'm not hoyodi*k rider here okay i'm just seeing a big picture of this drama
@chase5436
5 ай бұрын
Do Genshin/HSR CCs know that most of us watch multiple guides (or almost all of them from big creators)? Most of the "guide watchers" are here for the personality and the person. We're not here for the same info we've heard 6 times already, and probably seen from leaks a month before.
@JustSomeWeirdo
5 ай бұрын
True
@thatokperson
5 ай бұрын
Tbf tho brax did say it was a 1/10 which does add to the argument there is a clear advantage. Plus it's undeniable some people's interests will wane over time
@JustSomeWeirdo
5 ай бұрын
What the heck does 1/10 mean btw?@@thatokperson
@venexo1434
5 ай бұрын
@@JustSomeWeirdoBasically very successful video
@JustSomeWeirdo
5 ай бұрын
@@venexo1434 that’s obvious but it doesn’t mean anything special then?
@turtle4493
5 ай бұрын
Smh is tectone brain dead how does he not know what the difference is between slander, giving criticism and MISINFORMATION. also tectone fail to understand you can be critical about a character, but he want to say it with alot of profanity and disrespectfully, did he also forget that he has said slander about the company by calling it predatory but then he's surprised and wonder why they blacklist him, that would be like calling a woman a s|ut and then wonder why she won't go a date with you the next day.
@txfffy997
5 ай бұрын
what can we said he not thinking when he speaks and overreacting too.
@Shadowstrider26
5 ай бұрын
I really don’t like tectone’s take on this controversy, though I believe that there being only a small select few CCs allowed to cover early access publicly is unfair. But tectone stance and the fact that he won’t pivot his opinion about CCs having to “d**ksuck” is just ignorant of the others words.
@melonbread4269
5 ай бұрын
Tectone is legit the Hasan of gacha games. Dude is fucking insufferable because he's the type to always think he's right and malds at the most irrelevant things
@jay-rvivares1260
5 ай бұрын
Always has been.
@AverageFurinaEnjoyer
5 ай бұрын
Respectfully, what is MTashed yapping about? His content is not the same kind of content as on channels like Braxophone and IWTL. I don’t watch the tashman for conventional guides and hoyo-narrative content. That’s not the kind of content he makes. He is catastrophizing for content.
@TheWaifuConnoisseur
5 ай бұрын
Honestly, I don’t know why he’s having a mental breakdown about this. He hasn’t made a guide video in forever, and most of his “guide” like videos are just him talking about his feels towards a character. I also think Tectone and Mtashed are blacklisted not because they criticize or talk negatively about the games. I think that they are blacklisted because they are mainly reaction youtubers and feels crafters, instead of like Brax or IWTL who make actual showcase videos and objective guide videos. And Hoyo knows that it is more optimal to reach out to other CCs that can cover more stuff that they want like f2p potential, light cone yay or nay, Eidolons, etc.
@AverageFurinaEnjoyer
5 ай бұрын
@@TheWaifuConnoisseur 100% agree.
@thatokperson
5 ай бұрын
@@TheWaifuConnoisseurI mean they were blacklisted around times they criticised the game so that doesn't entirely track. The rest I agree with though
@TheWaifuConnoisseur
5 ай бұрын
@@thatokperson I think Genshin and Star Rail have different staffs that look for content creators to work for. As Mtashed mentioned, he thinks he isn’t blacklisted anymore after he reached out for Zenless Zone Zero beta access. However, I think Tectone refuses to reach out because he’s persistent and emotional. I could be wrong about this, but I think it has been a while since Tectone has tried to reach out, and because he failed once with one staff member a long time ago during Genshin, he thinks if he tries again with Star Rail he will get the same response. Tectone also got access to zzz, so I think he has a good chance in being in the cc server if he actually made guide/build videos. However, his content is just react videos or gameplay stuff so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@HapyFriendsShoppe
5 ай бұрын
If everyone can be like Xslice, the world would be a smarter place. Tectone crying is so redundant because he has dug himself into a deep hole with Hoyoverse and continues to do so but expects to be in this programme? His content is just lazy react content. The dude is screaming like a cry baby when the only reason he’s doing well is because he shits on Genshin and creates fake drama for views. 😅
@theisekaiman789
5 ай бұрын
Found a mintpicker💀
@HapyFriendsShoppe
5 ай бұрын
Found a tectone dickrider😂
@t0x1cfire75
5 ай бұрын
@@theisekaiman789 wtf does that even mean?
@kazuhara.
5 ай бұрын
I really think we are getting a bit head of ourselves, if it is how tectone thinks it's going to be then yes it will be a sad situation and we'll have to some how work around it, but from what brax said, I GENUINELY think this is fine
@aetriandimitri190
5 ай бұрын
I GENUINELY can believe this
@exu7325
5 ай бұрын
I'm not even a Tectone fan, but it baffles me how people are being so naive. Cui bono?
@Glast04
5 ай бұрын
Xlice, Iyo, and Brax are such intelligent well spoken creators. Mad respect to them for how they handled the discussion. (No hate to anyone not mentioned here, these were just the creators that made the best points imo).
@dimitristakis6396
5 ай бұрын
So acheron slayed the annihilation gang now she slayed the cc gang. Lets go queen❤❤❤
@NeFlorence
5 ай бұрын
The fact that that content creators can 100% say “Don’t pull for this character for meta reasons and only pull if you really want this character” extinguishes anything related to “well hoyo wants creators to shill characters even if they’re shit” argument. They can say a character is not worth spending your money on. They’ve LITERALLY been doing that since HSR’s release. What they can’t do is fabricate misinformation or straight up lies about a character to defame that character. The ONLY and I mean, ONLY takeaway here is that yes small CC’s get screwed over. That’s it. But the whole “they’re gonna censor CC’s” is BS because literally every Day 1 guide you’ve ever seen from Brax, Sevy, Guoba etc have all been screened by Hoyo. We didn’t have a problem with that for the past 12 months. This changes nothing.
@SundayMatinee
5 ай бұрын
100% and MANY of these CCs have warned that a character "may not be good" for certain accounts or may be "heavy investment". Many CCs have said characters "aren't meta", which 100% impacts Hoyo revenue. So NO they are not being forced to be Hoyo shills.
@NeFlorence
5 ай бұрын
@@SundayMatineeExactly The reason why CC’s can’t say “THIS CHARACTER IS SHIT, DON’T PULL” is because saying a character is “shit” is such a generalization. Imo there are no shit characters. If a character gets in there, fully built and does their job in MoC and clears it, it’s not a shit character. It may be “shit” to your standards because you have better characters but to the vast majority of the playerbase, that character is pretty damn good. If a Guide Maker says a character is “Shit” by their own standards, that indirectly is misinformation and slander which is what Hoyo doesn’t want. Because it’s false and slander.
@chessterstone
5 ай бұрын
Holy shit, “This changes nothing” is the new meta for this discussion, I never thought about it that way
@maple1139
5 ай бұрын
mtashed: This changes everything
@totallyahololivesimp
5 ай бұрын
ok.... wtf is Tectone yapping? bro made baseless arguments and didn't let the other finished speaking. Like bro shut up and let them finish talking. And for the CC early acess, in my point of view as someone who majors in business management... this is honestly not that bad. Mob said he can still speak his mind and be critical, like ofc you can't say "Blade suck balls" and not gave us WHY? and why. The fact he said networking is a way to CC to suck a company's dick is insane, like bro the money doesn't arrived automatically on your feet, you gotta work for it and know the right people. Honestly this early access thing is only usefull for guide makers and there's a lot of HSR contents outside guide making. Now the real thing i can say that's kinda problematic for me is getting copyrighted for reacting when the information is there. I can see why they do this, but it does made a few CC with the early access have an advantage. But then again is your viewers that unloyal to you that they won't watch you? like for example I like watching sevvy's guide, and even she comes in making late guide making videos, would still watch it. And for them bot choosing tectone is a damn genius move ngl, if I was a hoyo staff, I wouldn't want to work qith someone who's very active in drama, have a lose mouth and can easily say "yea X is a shit you better save your damn money" and would fight with other CCs. And mind you I do like to watch Tectone's videos, but in a business perspective it's not worth it, sure it'll gain a lot of views but in the hands of someone that has a lot of drama? yea no. In this vid i can clearly see that there's jealousy in here, whether they try to deny, there's definitely jealousy. And honestly, that's pretty pathetic, if you see someone gets something instead of hating the company, why not at least try first to get that early access first and if they didn't get it and didn't get an answer on why or they don't know why.... then we can talk. edit: Teectone, I thought you're a logical person, but your brain is filled with air just like a basketball. My God man, you should think before you speak and stop making baseless accusations.
@thatokperson
5 ай бұрын
He made a bad argument but is still ultimately right in this scenario about it being net bad thing. After all this drama isn't just "because Tectone said so", many people have legitimate criticisms with it. I have found Tectone acts like this when he has prior traumatic (I can't think of a more appropriate word but it's a bit exaggerative in this context) experiences with similar things. You can't say he is illogical when he is literally on the same line of thought with you in some scenarios i.e the react copyright stuff. He was illogical in one argument which he repeated constantly which he tends to do for some reason (no clue why) in these scenarios. It doesn't make the entire argument mute and just as we can't prove said screenshot is real it's not fair to immediately dismiss them as fake. I have a problem with insulting someone and by extension all the arguments (calling him illogical). If that's true lump me, you and everyone in the pile too. Hell you going this hard on someone for seemingly no reason can be seen as illogical
@reivell3699
5 ай бұрын
Baldo ran away to daddy Asmongold mid podcast will always be funny to me.
@thatokperson
5 ай бұрын
Also while I agree with you that from a business perspective it doesn't make sense and to prepare for a rebuttal I know they obviously have no reason to do differently but business perspective does not always align with morals. Tectone is not dumb enough to think he isn't a hoyo brand risk hell he's not even trying to be safe. He has taken sponsorships before he knows how to do it. He just doesn't morally agree with it. He treats it like unpaid advertisement. And while I agree his argument around degrees of criticism is bad but I don't think it is entirely mute. Afterall the goalposts are very much hoyo's to move. Early days I know but his concerns are valid it is risky. Also I can find myself agreeing it is like an unfair sponsorship that solely benifits those willing to agree to uneven and frankly arbitrary terms. This is what I mean by legal but not really moral or ethical. Many smarter people than me have pointed to journalists standards and while a different medium I think the benefits of those standard are clear to see and although a bone-headed approach I appreciate Tectone and the others calling for these standards to be maintained here withing the community aswell
@stin2775
5 ай бұрын
kinda problematic 💀
@thatokperson
5 ай бұрын
@@reivell3699lmao kinda true tho
@demonsofrazg
5 ай бұрын
1st world problems for content creators.
@kaiwenzhang4028
5 ай бұрын
and idc if they lost it bcs they suck at it
@鐘葉
5 ай бұрын
I feel bad for Xlice trying so hard to explain to Tectone nicely but it's not that he does not understand, but he was just so stubborn and refuse to listen or accept other's arguments. He just keep on cutting them when they are talking, it's just hard to watch
@innovated435
5 ай бұрын
I think you need to rewatch the vod, He clearly said he understands but he was talking about something different which xlice didn't get, there was no conflict, he was literally listening to them the whole podcast, stop making judgement on him out of nothing.
@williamlin9343
5 ай бұрын
1:17:00 CIVILIZED CONVERSATION STARTS HERE
@NeViKble
5 ай бұрын
Let me guess, Tectone left? He did lol
@SundayMatinee
5 ай бұрын
51:27 Tectone worries that people will think "everything's corrupted so why bother?" Uh... Who's the one who's flipping out over everything and over-reacting all the time? Literally Tectone. If you don't want people to think "everything's corrupted" then maybe don't make click-bait over-react content all the time? Maybe take a step back, take a deep breath, and try to think things through? Maybe after you've calmed down, talk calmly with others who have differing view points? Even in this call, Tectone is barely able to hold himself back and constantly talking over people. It's exactly like Xlice said - Tectone works himself up into a rage and he basically can't be reasoned with. If he truly cares about making a "better community", he should first look towards himself and how he behaves.
@Thorgue1910
5 ай бұрын
I used to watch him but the Genshin situation tired me the fuck out. Being the loudest in the room all the time while trying to ALWAYS be the victim/outraged can be so annoying
@center7575
5 ай бұрын
I can see why he's blacklisted, all he does is screaming and spreading hate
@HeshO-yi3hh
5 ай бұрын
Mr. Chokke gigachad he fears no one I have to say this time Tectone failed to see the full context, Woobatcha was a rage tweet but tectone took it as true, then he got mad af but the other cc's told him what was happening then tectone left so we are now kinda confused if he rage quited or what
@Thailandsmostwanted
5 ай бұрын
in his stream he left cuz he got mad at his own chat for absolutely piling on the guy lol
@HeshO-yi3hh
5 ай бұрын
@@Thailandsmostwanted well Woobatcha "leak" was talking out of his ass and it ended up affecting Brax and IWTL, and also it turned the narrative to "CCs are being disingenuous and/or walking on eggshells, so he kinda deserve it
@innovated435
5 ай бұрын
No watch the vod again, there was a misunderstanding for the word 'shit' that he said to Xlice, He got mad at his chat because they also misunderstood what he was saying and tried to rationalize what he meant, it was dumb.
@HeshO-yi3hh
5 ай бұрын
@@innovated435 ? Why Xliice has anything to do with Woobatcha?
@Emolate
5 ай бұрын
I only watch guide makers for their knowledge not for who put it out first, but who will teach me the most about the game
@FloatingAmongTheCosmos
5 ай бұрын
Exactly this.
@venexo1434
5 ай бұрын
Yeah but Guides are so dry that they all say basically the same thing.
@shier_it4956
5 ай бұрын
i watch the guide videos that I like and find entertaining. I don't care who puts it out first. Brax's is funny as hell. If i need a good laugh, i will watch his guide. Sevy if I want a guide that is simple and easy to understand . IWTLG has a soft voice so i can watch his videos while having breakfast (without waking up the whole house). I watch Vars II for his why no one/everyone plays a character videos and Mr Pokke for his summary of the "issues". i miss them peaceful times.
@MUGEN44
5 ай бұрын
you might say this but after a time you'll start watching whoever put a guide out first, because well, they're out first. "yeah let's watch this before the creators i prefer made a guide". but you'll slowly stop watching your preferred creator's guide because you realize what they're saying are pretty much the same, only in different presentations. and let's say that's not true, and will not happen. the good majority of casual players(the ones who needs guide the most) are not like you, the majority of players doesn't have preferred creators, they will only watch any guide that they see first if it lands on their recommended page on youtube, and it's about who dishes a guide first at that point.
@steph4u74
5 ай бұрын
Lets be honest guyz tectone is crying cant react to new videos. Hoyo can do whatever they want and dont care about tectones opinion. If im. dawei bald man always saying bad things to my company of course i will kick him out. Thats why nowadays i dont watch streams most cc are so dramatic its not fun to watch anymore. I play my game and watch positive cc to watch i dont want to watch negative people like bald man. Im waiting tectone run to his papa podcast asmon rescue me please they are bullying me they say this and that papa help.😂😂😂😂😂
@HarzinLolz
5 ай бұрын
i mean it makes sense if your caught massively shit talking the company, you should not be allowed. espcially now that he thrives off drama to keep relevance
@free_manipur_from_india
5 ай бұрын
Tectone never work a real job IRL. Like he legit got confused about why he got blacklisted after talking shit to Hoyo 24/7.
@thatokperson
5 ай бұрын
@@free_manipur_from_indiaLiteral grifter waiting for drama to shit talk someone they didn't like to begin with. Actually fucking sick of people like this coming out of the wood work and pretending to have a moral highground
@sadaharuofkagura
5 ай бұрын
@@free_manipur_from_india He won't cuz he would be fired in day 1 on IRL job.
@aetriandimitri190
5 ай бұрын
My respect for tectone took an absolute nosedive after his gamergate 2.0 vid and this, dude can not accept he is wrong on things.
@juampisito
5 ай бұрын
Tectone is the one complaining the most when he is a react andy, he does not even work on his videos xd, he is one of the less affected creators by this. People watch him cause they like his reactions, not because he will be the first to upload an in deep guide with numbers and actual useful information about the character's kit. Good guide makers like Gacha Smack Pokke or even Sevy should be in the program, because they are the ones people trust for actual decent guides, tricks and info, not react andys lol, this is not their content.
@ytwaldan
5 ай бұрын
Yea, teccy is just milking drama for content. He doesnt even affected but says "well my friend does, and im not gonna shut up and make content about this"
@whaleborne1308
5 ай бұрын
Imagine not understanding that he has friends that are getting fucked over by this, and he cares more about that than his own situation
@traiwooten3711
5 ай бұрын
Well if I recall he did say himself he stop doing guides cause he doesn't get views.
@Gray_V1
5 ай бұрын
Yeah his friends are getting affected by it so of course he's gonna bitch, how would you feel if your friends could lose their job over some absolute bullshit, not to forget he is also an American man so the fact that they are limiting "free speech" doesn't sit right with him because anyone has the right to say anything in anyway they want to and that is totally valid in his end.
@santo2sexy
5 ай бұрын
I don't think that's a fair thing to say, I'd argue he's more concerned for his cc friends who are getting f'd over by this change. Also what cc isn't gonna milk views out of this, its a hot topic in the HSR space, it's pretty unfair to call out any one creator for making content from news drama about the game they make content about. (Also xD in 2024 cmon man)
@Onebreathalone
5 ай бұрын
I genuinely couldn’t finish this video because off Tectone
@rim-1or4wr1y
5 ай бұрын
They arent controlling censorship or what people say about their characters according to brax, but this still majorly affects CC's livelihoods.
@pixelpuppy
5 ай бұрын
this will depend on the content creators, and audience reaction. Some might just do first impressions and not a full guide, some might have bad takes, and audience might watch more than just one guide video anyway. If hoyo has to approve everyone's videos first, manually btw, it might not be worth the effort in the end.
@exu7325
5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I don't buy that. The entire point of approving pre-selected content creators is to manage (read: control) the content output. If they don't intend to do that, there's simply no need for all this nonsense, just release kit in -1 week as part of drip marketing.
@Byaksune
5 ай бұрын
It's just an early test, ppl losing their fucking minds, just chill
@statesminds
5 ай бұрын
Ofc theyll say that lol
@GerriFuryman
5 ай бұрын
No this not. There is leaks guides for every character from the beginning, everyone who want will see this anyways. I blocked like 100 channels over last 3 years since Genshin came out, because they make leak guides of genshin and hsr. People watch guides for proved info and people who make guides.
@SundayMatinee
5 ай бұрын
36:10 That's literally LIFE Tectone. You need to make step up, hustle, make contacts, make things happen. Iyo HUSTLES. GachaSmack HUSTLES. And I see Pokke HUSTLING. Everyone else in the call also is hustling to a greater or lesser degreee. YOU are in charge of how your content creation career succeeds or fails. YOU need to reach out to game developers and industry contacts so they know YOU. You can't sit back and hope somebody notices you. Sometimes, something might land in your lap. But you DRASTICALLY increase your odds when you take charge of YOUR CC career.
@idonotmakevidsyet
5 ай бұрын
Bruh dicktone can't fathom that he is wrong he needs a whole discord call of CCs to convince he is wrong.
@turnip3475
5 ай бұрын
and he didn't even accept that he's wrong lmao, he ragequit and went to papa asmon
@innovated435
5 ай бұрын
This was just a podcast for them to discuss about the new program that is affecting every cc in the community. The hsr, genshin viewer base are bunch of kids that think this is a "Tectone vs CCs" thing when it was a normal harmless talk about the rules of the program, why are u guys trying to shun him so bad ?
@innovated435
5 ай бұрын
@@turnip3475 asmon was the one reacting to him and he wanted to know more, it is not about being wrong when Tectone wants to understand the program like everyone else is. The hate boner you guys have for him is so dumb.
@tunoak
5 ай бұрын
Tectone use the most basic level debate tactic that you see in middle school to "win" an argument but when he try this on actual adult it doesnt work and he ragequit the call. You can see at the end when he ask if you can say "this character is shit" and when xlice reply he wouldnt, he instantly said "I rest my case" and left lol he then go cry to asmon and tell a twisted story to garner support. Since the early days of genshin, tectone have been arguing in bad faith against people who doesnt agreed with him and this time even his chat is calling him out for having a very dumb takes. He is the type who dishes out heat constantly but cant take any and point his chat to harass people who he doesnt like.
@imabazaba
5 ай бұрын
LOL, i like how everything Tectone says is wrong, he literally is the epitome of misinformation and crying wolf
@vaggeliskapsiotis7623
5 ай бұрын
i feel like this drama has shifted in the player base from criticizing hoyo to realizing that tectone is a person that cant make a civilized discution and look at the bigger picture to see when hes wrong and a person who will rather believe some random mistranslation from someone in the internet instead of his friend and people who are in the server of witch brax and iwtl BOTH MADE A GUIDE ON ACHERON WHERE THEY WERE CRITICAL and mtashed being a crybaby who thinks his life is over over one patch of making a guide a week later
@tejrof3910
5 ай бұрын
i dont get it, why are people making a big deal out of this ? this has been the norm for Hi3rd for years now there is no such thing as honkai impact 3rd leaks, all of it is out in the open you can go to CC's like marisa honkai and you can see what hoyoverse are working on for the next 7.4 patch why is this a problem that this will now be be the same for star rail and maybe genshin as well ?
@Reddeadxf
5 ай бұрын
They want more views and money
@user-pe1ug8cd4y
5 ай бұрын
Mr Pokke appreciate the effort and every creator here who give a constructive and neutral, unbiased to either party. Tectone is toxic and disrespectful to everyone here. He is the only one being ignorant here as reacting to a reddit post and a sentence written without finding out the context. I would disagree with the smaller CC situation. You would need to work your way to be big. You cant assume every video game company to come to you with a silver platter with content - that is a wishful thinking. For MTASH - he is being saying quitting for years and he is still here with hoyoverse.
@avidbtw7651
5 ай бұрын
I feel so bad for Xlice trying to put some sense into tectone, Bro is stuttering because he scared of tectone cutting his speech if he doesn't speak fast enough.
@innovated435
5 ай бұрын
These type of comments are so weird, he was not stuttering, he was obviously fine. It is just a podcast for people who want to know more about the program to ask those who are in it to know more. The viewers really trying to make this about "Tectone trying to scare Xlice" or them debating, when it was harmless, omg...
@Red_Ring_Of_Death
5 ай бұрын
I’m a big Tectone fan. He lost the plot with his arguments in this one. 100%
@exia1984
5 ай бұрын
Same here. We and the other CC's understand that he want people to have the freedom of speech and not be controlled by people but he should understand that not everybody can be like him. Xlice didnt say he dont agree with Teccy's take but explained that he cant say how Teccy said if the character is bad and he will construct his own word how the character is bad. Xlice is not Tectone. I think Teccy should calm down and try to understand what the others explained.
@DanielGonzalez-sd3fy
5 ай бұрын
Yep
@Red_Ring_Of_Death
5 ай бұрын
@@exia1984 I completely understand Teccy’s take. He was arguing on behalf of smaller content creators that may not get access to the CC server that would allow them to be competitive with larger channels in the HSR space. He boosts smaller content creators all the time. He was a bit too emotional this time IMO. I get why he’s upset. His friends may be at risk of their channel being nuked. I do think it looks weird for Hoyo to do this right before their 1 year anniversary with Acheron about to drop. The timing doesn’t make sense.
@exia1984
5 ай бұрын
@@Red_Ring_Of_Death yeah i totally agree 100%. We know Teccy really passionate to help smaller CC's to strive in this platform and thats what make u and me like and follow him. IMO he just afraid the game that he really love will become like Genshin and the community will become toxic in the future. And i totally agree too that the timing Hoyo chose to do this really doesn't make sense at all. I really feel for him and i wish when he wakes up in the morning, have a fresher mind and calm down.
@turnip3475
5 ай бұрын
as much as i like teccy but damn he can't take an L, bro just mald till people get tired of his shit and let him win
@chaptereight3406
5 ай бұрын
"You should be allowed to slander whatever the fact you want to slander", bro isn't slandering in of itself a crime? also what he's describing about slander isn't actually slander
@Mihreszs
5 ай бұрын
I mean he's allowed to slander, but the moment he act surprised when Hoyo didn't invite him or his friend to their creator program is the "out of touch" part of his take.
@chaptereight3406
5 ай бұрын
@@Mihreszs yeah his take on the whole thing is that small creators won't be able to be part of it, but from my perspective its like watching a grown man having a tantrum lol, but im sure it's not the case
@rizzz___
5 ай бұрын
I like Eggys but he is definitely overblown and painted too much prejudice on this issue that inderectly cause more harm to other CC like Brax than actually constructive opinion for Mihoyo and the community in general. But he is true that there some thing that needed to be improved by mihoyo in regards to this initiatives: 1. Mihoyo should be more transparent and clear about their initiatives and programs with their partners (in this case CC). This initiatives could avoid much less backlash if they inform their CC partner in advance whenever they are about to run such initiatives including who and why they select the selected fews to be included in this initiatives, reducing prejudice setting better communication between CC-to-CC and CC-to-Mihoyo themselves. 2. Kneejerk descision with Copystrike threat for redistribution or even a simple making reaction video to the CC partner's exclusive access should be refuted as it will only harm their own CC partner and good actor CC instead of the leakers which are their intended target. Most of these bad actors, the leakers, are use dispossable accounts to begin with, that copyright strike counter measure are never effective to begin with. Hoyo should have known this, they have tried to stop this leaks account for years and it does not work. This restrictive policy instead will affect the good actors, the normal CC that are just covering the game in good faith, negatively by creating uneceasary restriction over nothing (look at how bad Nintendo handle their community). Lastly, for CC, tbf as consumer i would say most of us do not give much of a damn about which guide video came out first. We watch certain CC guide because we like their individual presentation or their personality and opinion. On these early access type of guides, It's not the GUIDE (in the sense of opinion or general content) that people want to see, it is the initial information ABOUT THE PRODUCT that we are about to buy (this mean, characters actual stats and numbers) so we, as customer who invest our money and time, can make a more concious descision and better financial planning in regards to products that we are interested in. These early Guide video just to happen to usually contain these official informations (eg. Brax video contain his character stats and corrwsponding damage along official skill stats and eidolons), thus making these early guides on character release a tremendous advantage to the official excluaive CC. It is the official information in regards to these stats and numbers, not the content itself (selling point is the INFORMATION instead of the OPINION). Nevertheless this obviously will create an unhealthy competitive ecosystem for the CC. To prevent this issue, Mihoyo should just release official character numbers and stats earlier before their early access CC allowed to upload their guide or opinion video. This will potentially reduce unnecessary enmity and unhealthy competition, since the advantage of early access CC is only in regards to their ability to make early opinion on the characters according their test in the test server instead of being the early source of information on official stats and numbers (making selling point of everyones content back to about THEIR OPINION instead of INFORMATION they disclose). And the other hand other non partner CC can still make video guide using the officially disclosed stats that hoyo already released in advance thus reducing the disdvatage compared to the current system mihoyo have. Lastly, with earlier official information disclosure in regards to characters stats and numbers (even if it is still subject for change) will severly disincentivize players to look for leak instead. Thus will directly help mihoyo in combating what they want to combat without jeopardizing their CC partner along with other non partner CC. I believe this solution will create healthier competition and ecosystem for the community. I know no one will read this yap, but i just want to say my opinion as consumer. Also sorry for typo and weird phrasing, im typing on phone and havent recheck everything i type.
@ManicRipper2
5 ай бұрын
Man actually just said "You guys are agruing scenarios that have not happened yet...." Then RIGHT AFTER creates a scario to prove his point "IF a charcater comes out that is bad.... you think the company will allow you...."
@jinbaek7
5 ай бұрын
Xlice understands. I've been ignoring channels that show character leaks. Even if the content creators I like to watch and enjoy come out with videos after patch drops and the banner is out, I'll still watch their videos because I care about what they have to say. Just because someone has leak info or they have access to creator content servers and come out with stuff first, it doesn't mean their videos are fun to watch.
@ceizhore4498
5 ай бұрын
Content creators should just take the Zajef route. Sure you won’t get sponsored by Hoyo anymore. But look at Zajef thriving and theory crafting a month before the character comes out.
@diazpramudita5165
5 ай бұрын
I kinda wonder how come Hoyo didn't strike CC like Zajeff, TGS, & jstern 😂. Maybe you could enlighten me on how this ninja route works.
@ceizhore4498
5 ай бұрын
@@diazpramudita5165 pretty sure that as long as you don’t show official gameplay leaks it’s fine. Also no leaked arts allowed like showing how the new artifacts look like. However you are allowed to talk about the kits and numbers
@expeditor5895
5 ай бұрын
@@diazpramudita5165 because they are just talking about it, they dont show leak videos and use 3rd party sites. iirc hoyo struck zajef's video 1 time just for showing ability icons
@Rahzi_
5 ай бұрын
As much as this sounds like the best choice for them; a lot of the content creators especially ones in this video aren’t about theory crafting. They just nab strats and numbers from CN w/o putting effort themselves. There’s a reason guide makers will stay doing guides.
@lisathedoorkicker9572
5 ай бұрын
@@Rahzi_ This is exactly why I don’t like the current TC/Guide content creators. No one does their own maths and excel sheets. TC community in hsr just blindly believes everything CN says. Even in hsr Zajef is still the best Theory crafter out there. That’s says a lot cuz hsr isn’t even his main game
@von3496
5 ай бұрын
This changes everything.
@rafaelmorales1475
5 ай бұрын
Yes still pulling on the weapon banner ;)
@FloatingAmongTheCosmos
5 ай бұрын
Hook goes to SS+ tier. This TRULY changes everything.
@lenfent
5 ай бұрын
True I unsubbed dicktone after this one
@Varzathe
5 ай бұрын
Tec is respectfully biased and envious about the other content creator's "privilege"
@santo2sexy
5 ай бұрын
I agree but I don't think its out of jealousy, but his pure bias against hoyo is just unyielding and he refuses to see alternate perspectives because of how bad of a relationship he has with the company and Genshin.
@Soltrex-Y
5 ай бұрын
What is funny.Since he always says he thinks about stuff logical. In my opinion he is more emotional about alot of stuff. (No im no hater,i sub and watch his yt still)
@XenogearsPS
5 ай бұрын
He's. a millionare and doesn't care about the privelege lol. He's just farming drama for views. I can't watch his angry rants anymore, dude is too negative.
@stardust9470
5 ай бұрын
Tectone misunderstood slender and dragged everyone in the call into calling him out or educate him on this difference.GENUINELY RESPECTFULLY he ruined the whole call with this blunder. I don't know why I expected anything else coming from him,but that's disappointing and hurts his credibilty. I had a vague notion of not trusting his word in more serious things,but this call showed me this first-hand
@Kurdati
5 ай бұрын
I believe we got a similar system for Honkai Impact, and it worked well.
@REDvsBLUE4E
5 ай бұрын
does it? cause there are less CC in honkai 3rd than star rail. hey just saying lol
@araarashinigami
5 ай бұрын
Someone please take out the trash of drama chasers who don't even fscking play Genshin or Honkai constantly making drama videos for clicks, smh... This early access server is 100% a direct response to leakers. They even directly addressed the problem of leakers in the last live stream. Guide makers today rely 100% on leaked data. Moving forward, CCs will do the same exact shit they did yesterday: rely on leaked data. Nothing changes. We're going to see the exact same gutter tier caliber of CC videos we see today: reactions, reactions to reactions, drama baiting, etc.
@ofox716
5 ай бұрын
I almost feel like Teccy went nuclear just for the sake of going nuclear about something. He's always looking for something to yell about, and he's going to pop off when something doesn't look fair to him. He was really childish about it. "I mean, I don't care, BUT F*CK YOU FOR NOT INCLUDING ME!!"
@goldshot754
5 ай бұрын
yeah, him bringing up a potential future character not being a good example is really weird. It makes it sound like he just wants to be mad about this change in some way. He also forgets that not everyone is a blunt as him with other opinions and that there are ways to say a character is bad or to skip without just out right saying it
@GearOFFBlack
5 ай бұрын
@@goldshot754 Just want to add that Guide Maker in HSR gets views because they provide calculation and nuance. Just saying this bad don't pull will not get views as Guide Maker.
@ofox716
5 ай бұрын
*also* Saying that this ruins the prospects of other guide makers is wrong as well. A lot of people don't watch a content creator because of the information they present. It's for the way it's presented. Like Guoba's cosplays are goofy, and he is very well spoken about the way he goes about presenting his information. So I watch his content. Brax is goofy in the way he constantly jokes about a character as he is making his voiceover. So I watch his content. I watch Mtashed because he is an extremely relatable content creator. It's easy to connect with him. I used to watch Teccy because he *usually* handled drama in a way I respected. I could go on. The community watches who they like to watch. It's not what is presented. It's how it's presented.
@CzDelta92
5 ай бұрын
other games you cant even see how the units play till they are out, actually thats most games, is rare to have betas in gachas were you can test the versions before release, if they cant make guides close to release date but other ccs can on other games i dont know what to tell you, remember they parroted stuff like the character selectors hyping the community and then they went boycotting the game for not having them, and they wonder why they dont want dumb misleading leaks anymore, tectone is over reacting as usual and called asmon which had a more calm adult response than him (which is not hard ot do) and it seem to have calmed him down lmao, is pretty insane how now ccs limit their opinions because they know tectone will farm them non stop of they have a different opinion and his community will jump on them.
@carlosrrrl7741
5 ай бұрын
Tectone trying to play the good guy is so funny, when he's clearly biased towards his react "content" stuff. Tectone be like " I can't steal their video and content and just repost it my channel every time and make more money? This is getting ridiculous."
@JosepiThe13th
5 ай бұрын
The way things became infinitely more chill and watchable the moment Tectone left 💀
@KakavashaForever
5 ай бұрын
Bro Tash is being so fucking melodramatic. Hes been a millionaire since Genshin launch, he said so himself in one of his videos literally years ago. Acting like this is some big earth shattering shit lmao.
@omensoffate
5 ай бұрын
Couple weeks ago he was Bragging about having 2 million 😂
@KakavashaForever
5 ай бұрын
@@omensoffate Fucking wild shit man.
@thatokperson
5 ай бұрын
Yeah it is exaggerative. (I mean we kinda knew he acts like this) but regardless of money imagine you had art you were really proud of but you were told no one will look at it because it is a week late. It does feel pretty bad. You could kind of tell this by how he feels demoralised when someone call him a feel-crafter. The soul kind of drains from him like telling someone their passionate art was shit. Healthy sure no, but understandable yes
@KakavashaForever
5 ай бұрын
@@thatokperson Be real, dude is 100% all about the money, always has been, this has nothing to do with art or anything for mtash. That's why hes saying hes out. And to be honest good riddance, I hope he follows through. One less clickbait title BS video popping up in my feed every single day no matter how many times I click 'dont recommend channel' lol
@thatokperson
5 ай бұрын
@@KakavashaForeverImagine giving someone such a bad faith shit despite never having had a single conversation. Be 100% you are just being a dickhead at this point. If you're talking about him bragging about 2 mil, bro get real so would you and I. Man you gotta be a real bitch to be acting like this to someone you don't know. Literally what did he do to you. Does bro have your family hostage?
@kyori75
5 ай бұрын
Not sure about the other 2 but I think IWinToLose has never bad mouth nor did he tried to gain any favor from mihoyo? Quite a neutral guy. Perhaps mihoyo likes such people lol
@kyotheman69
5 ай бұрын
best part of video he got call from Xlice, hell yeah i freaking love that guy, glad he stays away from drama
@Catalyna
5 ай бұрын
pervy Xlice gets enough drama from his boyfriend
@mangedescahuetes
5 ай бұрын
Tectone isn't reacting like a proper adult ahaha
@omensoffate
5 ай бұрын
He’s just acting for drama bait
@KakavashaForever
5 ай бұрын
Almost nobody is, its wild. Like watching my niece and nephew and all their middle school friends lose their minds over everything.
@oramisc90
5 ай бұрын
@Calcxlatedlmao so there are ppl like you that actually believe he loves the game while he makes like many separate drama bait vids?
@reezwave
5 ай бұрын
So, the usual? Lol
@thatokperson
5 ай бұрын
@@oramisc90Omg really drama. Oh noooo it's soooo lazy. Bro stfu ain't nobody watching you, people watch him because he is funny and over the top, and while he is stubborn and poorly articulating his points here, it doesn't suddenly make this situation all sunshine and rainbows. If it was all good would we even be here. Exaggeration is being used here to prove a point
@kozuhiroxd
5 ай бұрын
gotta love how based xlice is being honestly. cause like dam bro I love teccy and enjoy all his content but brother just need to chill LOL. teccy the friend you have when something goes down and the first they wanna do is put your problem 6 feet in the ground. LOL 😆
@cushie
5 ай бұрын
nobody's mad, only those content creators are because understandably its their livelihood. But why is kektone here? he doesn't even play the hoyo games anymore... creating drama for content again?
@milfkoi
5 ай бұрын
that whole call just proved xlices take about tectone 100%, ive never watched any of xlices content but I've been watching tectone since the 'ganyu is a support' era and I've never thought about him being like that till xlice pointed it out, I even watched tectones vod and him trying to double down on his 'slander' take just proves xlices point on him even more its just so embarrassing to watch. The whole reason this started is because everyone said you cant say "this character is shit" and he took it as you cant criticize any character, when in reality everyone but him was in the same page where all you had to do is reword the sentence to say "this character is not good". He was never there to try and be reasonable and listen to other people, like xlice said he was so passionate about what he believed in, resulting in him trying to prove a narrative that he created in his own mind. like when he said "If they were to release a character that was bad, Not Acheron... Can you say: 'this character is sh*t, don't pull'" "I Personally wouldn't say that--"Cuts him off "and there it is..." if he let him finish he would of known he meant he wouldn't say the word 'shit' but no he just had to interrupt him to prove himself right for no reason but to just win the argument. I respect xlice going into this call full knowing this would happen because this is one of the most irritating things a person can do when you're just trying to have a debate.
@IncubiAkster
5 ай бұрын
Idk if english is not your first language, but this character is shit and this character is not good is the same thing.
@innovated435
5 ай бұрын
You are reading too much into it, holy , this character is shit, or not good , WHO CARES, they know it meant the same thing when it is comes to criticism. They were not having a debate, Tectone was asking him a question, it was a yes or no, but he answer with "i personally wouldnt say that" so it was very vague. Xlice was focusing on the word "shit" but that is not what Tectone was focusing on, he was talking about the character in a negative way, and not everything has to be positive. MAYBE tectone didn't word his question properly OR Xlice didn't understand his question, it is one or the other. Go watch the vod again.
@milfkoi
5 ай бұрын
@@innovated435 you say THEY but the whole reason we're here is because tectone DIDNT know its the same thing, when it is comes to criticism, everyone was in the same page about "this character is shit" could be worded differently like "this character is not good" but tectone thought that meant you cant be critical because you cant say "shit". so when tectone dumbed it down to a simple yes or no question and than xlice said "I Personally wouldn't say that--" thats because xlice would word it differently not using "shit", but than tectone cuts him off just to prove his own narrative without letting him finish, it was not a vague answer whatsoever considering tectone made such a bad yes or no question that could be used badly out of context. also everyone was confused with tectone because of all the questions he was asking just because he thought slander=misinformation until the end lmao, if tectones yes or no question just said 'bad' instead of 'shit' than this would of never happened, so it is not one or the other its both also it was a debate about the positives and negatives for the CC early testing program idk if you've ever done a debate but here de·bate -a formal discussion on a particular topic (CC program) in a public meeting(twitch) -argue about a subject, especially in a formal manner. YOU gotta read more into it if you cant even understand something so simple, I've dealt with people who argue exactly like tectone for years so I know where xlice is coming from 100% "go watch the vod again" lmao you a funny dude
@enjaysee
5 ай бұрын
spot on
@arthuserza2696
5 ай бұрын
@@innovated435To me there are two problems. First, is that Tectone appears to not understand the difference between giving a negative rude comment, giving constructive criticism, and slander. When the others tried to explain the difference he kept interjecting and not allowing them to finish explaining which leads me on to the next problem. The second problem, is that he is not willing or at the very least demonstrate the willingness to listen to others when it is their turn to speak and we see that with him getting all worked up and vanishing. saying "this character is shit" is a negative rude comment and it is certainly not constructive. If I ran a business I would not hire someone who speaks like that because it is extremely rude and unprofessional. So in that case I could understand Hoyoverse if they said for you to not to post that comment if you were part of a deal that involves them or their products. I do not expect Tectone to understand that, he would rather run his mouth and try to dictate the flow of conversation and questioning to suit his own narrative. This maybe taking things a little out of context but Tectone's question is an example of what lawyers call a leading question because the question is specifically designed to put the person in question in an awkward position where any answer could be interpreted in a way that puts the person in question at a disadvantage and prevents him from saying the "whole truth" which is very manipulative. as the sworn oath goes "I swear to say the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth." How would someone be able to uphold their oath if they were not allowed to give the whole truth?
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