@4:40 he says "as long as you want to be something other than what actually you are, so long you are in misery"
@early2it
15 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I've been saying this for years... It's never a question of knowledge when it comes to the truth or things which are true, it's always an issue of belief.
@NowisEvollovetion
15 жыл бұрын
The struggling animal scenario is bang on. Although with people it is the continual arguing/conflict /thinking with the Self within the head/mind that is the problem. For ME motion (or the complete denial of it, within the head/mind) is the key to breaking free. No motion, No e-motion, No thoughts, No (imagined/illusionary) problems, simple. Breaking the habit (circle) of 'Self Judgement' has helped ME so much. My job is to REMAIN always the DETACHED 'CONSCIOUS OBSERVER'.
@Gdad-20
14 жыл бұрын
@deekaljin This is the face of his Enlightenment! Quite Bitter, but also quite Sweet!
@HiAdrian
16 жыл бұрын
One can continue this ad infinitum. The message is short and simple and you just have to dare being who you are. This makes the going off into thoughts, and the uneasy emotions it can trigger, seem redundant after a while. Linguistic structures always add layer after layer of complication to what cannot be elegantly communicated in words. "Spiritual teachers" have to create content if it's their way of making a living, but if that wasn't the case, they'd be done with their talk in a minute.
@MrDoremouse
12 жыл бұрын
WHY DO I LIKE THIS GUY SO MUCH?
@NefertitiHeru
2 ай бұрын
Marvelous!
@AvionDream
15 жыл бұрын
God, Truth, Reality are Acausal, they are not the result of anything. God is Self-Existing, so there is no "thing" that needs to be done to make this the case. As a result of this absolute Truth, any action performed by the presumed-to-be-separate individual ego"I" TOWARDS God is like chasing a rainbow, you can not BECOME what you already ARE, and any actions towards the presumed God-apart is an admission that one is not already god therefore it only reinforces the separate presumption.
@AvionDream
14 жыл бұрын
@CharmingMan27 - You will NEVER "kill the self" without the Graceful help of a Self-Realized God-Man. You can progress to certain degrees by other means, but in the end the Guru Is IT. The ego cannot free itself from itself, like a trapped animal, if it struggles with itself it only entangles itself further.
@Gregorian1112
15 жыл бұрын
Yes, thank you.
@VDJ4500
16 жыл бұрын
this guy actually spent a long time with Jiddu Krishnamurti (names are coincidence), and after he took it very seriously and rejected him and everything else he ever believed in - it seems something hapened.. they're both right... difference is - Jiddu had a humility in his beying, UG - has sarcasm; both are talking about 'transformation' - if there's such a thing.
@ginevrajdeluca6589
6 ай бұрын
❤
@ncripzx
11 жыл бұрын
YOU WILL NEVER GET THIS. THE WHOLE POINT IS TO SAY I DONT KNOW AND KNOW WITH THE HIGHEST INTELLIGENCE THAT YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW... THEN LIFE HAPPENS ALL ON ITS OWN WITH ITS OWN INTELLIGENCE... ADMIT THAT YOU ARE THE KNOWLEDGE AND YOU DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING.
@fontofgod
4 жыл бұрын
"I don't know" is a question and the questioner both are one and same! both still exists! thus UG said to be silent and don't even to say that "i don't know". it means that the questioner hasn't vanished yet because "i don't know" isn't the correct answer! I don't know WHAT? If you say i know that i don't know ,then again you don't know what? It's the vicious circle of Ego!
@usernamejoshS
12 жыл бұрын
you have a topic in mind, and your mind leads you to the topic.. but I do see the attraction because he's very much in your face about which ever question is brought up
@NowisEvollovetion
15 жыл бұрын
HOW VERY TRUE. I notice you have capitalised IS, is this due to you having realised that GOD 'IS' NOW? And as so being de-void (empty) of both PAST and FUTURE/THINKING/IMAGINATION. BE 'STILL' AND KNOW THAT 'I' (AS NOW) AM GOD.
@THEGR8BIGM0UTH
14 жыл бұрын
Krishnamurti's hair always challenged my most cherished beliefs, his philosophy however, nothing more than spring water.
@Rnanubandha
15 жыл бұрын
You all know that he is right. 100% relevant.
@AvionDream
14 жыл бұрын
I am completely aware of the paradox of seeking for what is already the case. I am a "me" until "I" am not, "I" am aware of all the unavoidable use of self references when using language to convey what is beyond words. You cannot BECOME Happy, you can only BE Happy - this IS my understanding. "I" apologise if "my" communications were lost in translation. Even God as Guru needs to refer to Himself/Herself as Me or I, they have a body, so it is in this context I use "me" or "I" when communicating.
@heretic1306
12 жыл бұрын
I like this guy's hair!
@alainmaitre2069
4 жыл бұрын
I do not .
@blackwavy
14 жыл бұрын
You have long way to go my friend. If you know, you would respond this one as you did half of this discussion.
@happyjnia
16 жыл бұрын
HI! we're here! nothing else to do! Just be yourself!
@daninspiration
16 жыл бұрын
Well Said
@MrDoremouse
12 жыл бұрын
And, on a superficial level, his voice is so cool! Wish I spoke like that. '-)
@deadwaterd
16 жыл бұрын
yes, well...such is the way of the philosophers
@ShakuShingan
17 жыл бұрын
Was point of the speech was not that our experience always relies on other people but rather that it only relies on our thoughts? The whole experince of what humankind see as 'reality' is resting only on our thoughts.
@AvionDream
14 жыл бұрын
@CharmingMan27 - You are right to question wheather I know anything, because I dont. And you are right that what I have shared should be able to be perceived, all I can suggest is you go back to my original comments and perceive it, it is very clear. Of course I am only speaking of Authentic Realizers, discrimination must be employed, not blind submission.
@nicolareddwooddforest4481
11 жыл бұрын
As I understand agnostic, those people are not waiting for scientists to one day find out that there is a god. They are only open minded about endless possibilities to unfold, that's all.
@AvionDream
14 жыл бұрын
@CharmingMan27 - Just examine what the resistance is to such a concept, who is resisting? who doesnt like the idea? who wants the glory of figuring it all out for themselves? who doesnt like the idea of submitting / surrendering to what is greater than ones egoic self? The EGO. The biggest obstacle to at least a consideration of this necessary spiritual relationship is a failure to comprehend or understand what or who an Enlightened Spiritual Master is altogether.
@AvionDream
15 жыл бұрын
Agreed, but the ego cannot transcend the ego by itself, any action the ego tries to perform to get rid of itself only binds it further, the ego-self is an illusion but if you believe in it enough to try and get free from it you are admitting it is real and only empower it and make the illusion seem more real, like an animal that struggles in a trap only tangles itself further. Only a self-transcending spiritual relationship with an Enlightened Guru can melt/dissolve the ego-illusion.
@colmyer
15 жыл бұрын
He didn't make the video.Followers who seem to think they get something from him did so
@bepositivenow1400
11 жыл бұрын
Hello bro, I'm Batman. I came here after reading 'The Ten Dirty Secrets of Getting Enlightenment' by MG
@zibtihaj3213
15 жыл бұрын
@TheRadioflyify yeah thats what all sides say: " we are not here to convince....." yet all argue their point
@deadwaterd
16 жыл бұрын
the main point U. G. always makes is that there are no answers. that is the point. everything always takes you back to the same place and no religon, meditation, or spirituality can change that.
@ODDMcCOY174
11 жыл бұрын
He's good. He is a Guru, G.U.R.U (Gee you Are You)
@NowisEvollovetion
15 жыл бұрын
Avion, That is where ME and YOU see things differently sir, In the now 'AS NOW', there is indeed also for ME 'NO' time, there is actually NOTHING (and that nothing is ME/GOD). As NOW/STILL-NESS, as 'BEING' is there for 'ME' NO beginning, and certainly NO end. To 'BE' as NOW (as it is only possible to 'BE' NOW) is to 'simply' BE out of TIME (or IMMORTAL/GOD). It IS time (this BODY) that IS the ONLY burden. To BE TRULY FREE is to BE Beyond the BODY/EXISTENCE/TIME as ME/GOD.
@blackwavy
14 жыл бұрын
@AvionDream Gurus are not grounded because when they are in that state, they have most likely left the body. They live within themselves, blocking off this 'reality.' You are right, many of them don't assist them but one should not follow behind another man's spiritual path. We are all different and we should take from different and develop our own philosophy because that is why we are here.
@MrDoremouse
12 жыл бұрын
TM spooked me the other night. True. I thought,'Why am I listening to this weird voiced man talk about psychedelics?'
@usernamejoshS
12 жыл бұрын
i think it comes with age, if u live past forty u either get a creepy voice or one that demands people to hear it.. terrence mckenna had a combo of the two lol
@SriramMurali87
13 жыл бұрын
can you please give examples.. some of the concepts are hard to make sense
@AvionDream
15 жыл бұрын
Philosophers (like this man) merely talk about God. A True spiritual Guru IS God, and only wants to assist you to realise that you are God too!
@AvionDream
14 жыл бұрын
I know in Truth the "I" self is an illusion, and has no substance, and is arising IN Consciousness Itself. The One True Infinite Self is the Only One Existing. All and all Is Only that One. Even now. Nothing needs to be done to make this the case, therefore every gesture to MAKE it so only perpetually delays the Truth from being Ones Eternal Constant Realization. You may also see now how things get lost in INTERPRETATION : )
@bittugym8282
6 жыл бұрын
ug krishmurti was the great teacher
@NowisEvollovetion
15 жыл бұрын
So you are saying that the process here is not to add anything to ONE (as ONE is already what ONE is (God) before any mental positions are formed). The process of enlightenment for ME, is to continaully dissolve/destroy what became (as Past) that 'I/Self/personality'. Enlightenment is the process of dissolving that I/Self/personality to the point where only NOTHING/ME/GOD re-mains (the POWER that is the essence of this body, and as such is creating absolutely everything else).
@blackwavy
14 жыл бұрын
@AvionDream Thank you.
@AvionDream
14 жыл бұрын
@CharmingMan27 - The ego must forget itself not work on itself. It seems you do not understand the ego, if you take exception to it being called limited. The ego IS limitation itself. The ego is the illusory self.
@canyoncreekster
17 жыл бұрын
he is me!
@blackwavy
14 жыл бұрын
@AvionDream ego is the your 'small self,' that part that seems to hold human souls back from returning to Source. When you allow it to take over, your higher self cannot grow.
@AvionDream
14 жыл бұрын
@CharmingMan27 - I know what youre progress has been in relation to "so-called" gurus from your own words - "On the issue of Guru as God and the dissolver of self, however, I do not see how this is true or necessary" this statement exactly portrays a lack of understanding of the absolute necessity of a Realized Guru as I have said before. This is why I suggested you investigate the Guru / devotee relationship further.
@exinferiz
17 жыл бұрын
yesss.. it sure is frustrating isnt it?
@Kilogram24
11 жыл бұрын
All talk is certainly just that
@AvionDream
14 жыл бұрын
@CharmingMan27 "On the issue of Guru as God and the dissolver of self, however, I do not see how this is true or necessary" My ego does not care to "win" any debate on this, the revelation of the absolute necessity of a profound spiritual relationship with a Self-realized Guru for True liberation from the bondage of the egoic self, is not something that can be easily explained.
@AvionDream
14 жыл бұрын
@blackwavy - Its good you have heard of what I have said, but since you dont seem to know the True purpose and meaning of a Guru, it would seem there is much more to understanding what a Guru Is than to merely have heard about it. And like I said, The True Enlightened Guru is not a mere man. its also more than spiritual insight that you receive in your Spiritual Relationship with the Self-Realized God-man, its your True Self Nature that is revealed by Grace.
@amarsharma50
6 жыл бұрын
He is actually genius he actually understood Osho completely
@amolkale2140
6 жыл бұрын
AMAR SHARMA Then why does he criticise him so much
@alainmaitre2069
4 жыл бұрын
Osho was a guru . UG was against all guru's .
@9861356322
14 жыл бұрын
If ur aim is only to feel superior then its ur problem,if u r so concern abt the language u can correct but u choose to make me feel inferior,if that gives u sadistic pleasure its another thing if ur cocern is to correct me then I will humbly accept ur correction.I am a bengali and nt frm strong english bkground but there is no option to place my thoughts in other vernacular here.Sry if its irritating for u.
@TheTRUwins
11 жыл бұрын
hehehehe :)
@Jonnyeth
14 жыл бұрын
@darkhd I agree. I also want to be that batshit crazy =D
@TheTRUwins
11 жыл бұрын
One more: If Consciousness = Awareness. You need "something" to be aware of, in order to be. Because you are aware that you are aware, you always Are=Alive. Therefore you are the "enlightenment", not enlighten! Does make any sense?
@screenflicker1
12 жыл бұрын
@MATvision read osho much?
@blackwavy
14 жыл бұрын
@AvionDream Accepted. Just because I don't know what a guru is doesn't mean that I am spiritually retarded. You learning. Hell, we are all learning and what you know doesn't make you better than anyone else! No one can never be fully developed. There's infinite and endless knowledge to grasp. You don't know me. Don't pass judgement like that again.
@bittugym8282
6 жыл бұрын
for me
@AvionDream
14 жыл бұрын
@CharmingMan27 - If you make the mistake of perceiving them as mere men with limited egos like yourself, then of course there will be great resistance. If you are really interested in the Truth and Liberation from ego bondage, you wont leave a stone unturned, and this is a BIG stone I suggest you turn over. Study the ancient culture of Gurus, and the relationship between the Guru and the devotee, the only prerequisite is an open mind and intelligent discrimination.
@cojobo34
15 жыл бұрын
wanting is thinking, yes.wanting and using thinking to get what you want is the law of attraction is wanting/desire/law of attraction is self-interest. self-interest is ego is (programmed) emotions of your wanting/self-interest/ego is the cause of separation and imbalance of humanity and thus the polarized universe in which we now exist in where BILLIONS of my brothers and sisters starve and suffer to their deaths every day. Happy Happy Joy Joy Peace Love and Faith. wake the fuck up. Desteni
@AvionDream
14 жыл бұрын
@blackwavy - For some reason you felt it necessary to do this, Im simply telling you that this sense of necessity is borne out of ignorance for what a True Guru is and the role they play in a persons Spiritual Realization. You think they are mere men like you and I, they are not. And it is not a following, it is a spiritual relationship beyond time and space, a much more profound and esoteric association than you could (at this stage) imagine.
@mrmelanson34
11 жыл бұрын
ITS DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOURE SAYING WHEN YOU TYPE IN ALL CAPS. thanks
@wernertrptube
12 жыл бұрын
What will Jan Cox say to this guy ? Do not listen to much to him (UG) (5 minutes per day is enough) otherwise you will become a barcalounger mind. look at barcaloungers homepage
@kushkumar431
4 жыл бұрын
Krishna Murthy died in 1985 Who is this man ?
@creatorlight4346
Ай бұрын
His student
@blackwavy
14 жыл бұрын
@AvionDream All I know is that a Guru is a spiritually adept person who helps people lead the way. Some do and some don't. Those do who don't are live within themselves and that's fine as long as they aren't putting others down because they give into shit world we've created for ourselves. I seems to me that you aren't seeing beyond time and space since you pass judgements upon others.
@CrazyLinguiniLegs
12 жыл бұрын
@jennherboys I get "IT"
@charrua18
15 жыл бұрын
he is trapped in mind and ego ans so am i
@waedjradi
4 ай бұрын
00:55 "There is NOTHING which you can call your own!" 01:26 "We love suffering, enjoy suffering. Huh? Why not? We're living misery. Sit in misery. Walk in misery and then... you die in your misery. There is NO way you can free yourself. You may say that I am cynical, I am pestimistic, I am this, that and the other. No, sorry, no! This is very comforting for you to think that you are an optimist; that I'm a pestimist. And if I say that, um "God is Irrelevant" Eh, you think that you are a believer in God and I'm an athiest. Well, get this and get this straight: an athiest is still interested in God. He may say that he doesn't believe in God. But the desire to free others from their belief in God. He becomes a missionary to free you from your belief in God and you are another kind of a missionary, who want to make people believe in God. So BOTH are in the same boat!"
@superwhuffo1
15 жыл бұрын
This man is telling you like it is....there is nothing more....everything that you project as the spiritual is not that...check out videos by superwhuffo1 and if you would like check out videos by wildmanthe1st
@AvionDream
14 жыл бұрын
@blackwavy - If I criticize you, it is for you to learn from, not to make me feel superior. Find out what a True Guru Is, really investigate, look a lot deeper than you have. You made a comment to me about gurus and so-called 'following' them, and this is my reply.
@mrsky5201
17 жыл бұрын
He words are only pointers to ourselves. The analysis of the pointers are pointless. Rather than analyze or process it, I think just hear it will work out the best.
@AvionDream
14 жыл бұрын
@CharmingMan27 - EVERY mans ego is limited, including mine! My intention is not to try and tear you down my friend, only to assist you on this "stone" you seem to have overlooked. Look deeper, the Guru does not even need to speak to assist the devotee! There is much you need to understand about True Gurus, they are NOT mere men, they are not just rapping out a technique or philosophy for you to believe in, it is a much more profound matter than this. There is nothing more I can or will say.
@johnanthonycafe2993
Жыл бұрын
What is this guy on about? He’s just rambling on. Talk about circular
@TLEWgaming
10 жыл бұрын
d
@mrcozr
12 жыл бұрын
oheah, then the people putting this videos don't know, or the one who spoke. and we both don't know, you more.
@6Man666666
11 жыл бұрын
Anything you want must be achieved through thinking no experience and no thought is your own. These are assumptions without evidence. This man meanders through beliefs he is happy with. If u accept his beliefs then you definitely are at his mercy. The statement of nonsense is not particularly interesting. He thinks he is functioning better than others. What is comforting to him is that he is comforted by his own beliefs. He thinks route learning is d only learning which contradictory.
@MrDoremouse
12 жыл бұрын
Don't I? I kept clicking on him? Or 'I' don't like him (i,e. no real ego) ?
@jennherboys
13 жыл бұрын
any one who leaves a comment does not get "IT" and yea i know i don't LOL
@Chillu7
11 жыл бұрын
Hi Hi ,He just follow OSHO's words (silence) in his language.
@AvionDream
14 жыл бұрын
@blackwavy - You have no understanding of what a True Guru Is, I dont have shares in Gurus Inc. There is nothing for me to gain by advocating a spiritual relationship with a Guru, no, there is a real purpose to having a Guru. Those who havent yet understood what this purpose is, are generally put off by the idea and cant see the point of 'following' such a one. This seems to be you.
@9861356322
14 жыл бұрын
Truth is always uncompromising.Using high sounding words and fanciful sentences is not the mark of an enlightened person.U G probably one of the very few spiritual beings who never claimed any thing about himself he was a dynamo.Those who r judging him by his words plz go through his biography ug a life.telling basterd somebody dsnt prove that he is nt enlightened we use polished words but lies behind those politeness is violence and ugly primitivrness.
@AXharoth
11 жыл бұрын
no . what?
@mooniusss
15 жыл бұрын
God is irrelevant. Illusion is irrelevant. Irrelevance is irrelevant.
@deangeloconteduca163
Ай бұрын
its remarkable, maybe, just how unremarkable he is. As long as you want to be something other tha you are, thn so long you ar in misery.
@TheFirstDegree
16 жыл бұрын
Parrots can repeat words as well. He is an admitted parrot. Can you claim the same? Squawk squawk.
@AvionDream
14 жыл бұрын
@blackwavy - Spend your energy investigating Gurus. Sorry to be a bug or nusance. The Truth about Gurus is not my view or a view at all, they just are what they are, the same as a rock is a rock. So I have no view or views on anything.
@stillanego
17 жыл бұрын
We meet again. I have a question for you Supralee. If you think that these teachers are liars and fakes, why do you continue to watch their videos and listen to them speak? Please tell me the name of one person that you respect. This is probably be my last response to you Supralee. Try just once not to be so miserable. Try saying something happy.
@ShivaShaktification
13 жыл бұрын
there is nothing to understand!
@deekaljin
14 жыл бұрын
I know he was not interested in enlightenment and thought no such thing exists. but I'm also wondering what was he doing on this world anyway then? spreading around his misery and bitterness?
@Jiryu02
17 жыл бұрын
It seems you should've kept silent yourself.
@deekaljin
14 жыл бұрын
"quite sweet" ..Oh, really? what kind of sweetness is that? this man had zero manner. He had a filthy mouth and angry soul. watch his videos to hear him call people "bastards" and "bitches".. this is not the language of an enlightened man. it is merely that of a homeless thug. so who are you kidding?
@DrHadeelDiary
11 жыл бұрын
if you want to know about God just ask him your need and it will be answered Quraan says And when My servants ask you, [O Muhammad], concerning Me - indeed I am near. I respond to the invocation of the supplicant when he calls upon Me. So let them respond to Me [by obedience] and believe in Me that they may be [rightly] guided. (186 Al-Baqara)
@deepakprasad3214
4 жыл бұрын
Fuck your Quran
@usernamejoshS
12 жыл бұрын
you dont
@AXharoth
11 жыл бұрын
you did and ruined it
@deekaljin
14 жыл бұрын
what's this man's problem? in all of his videos, it is quite clear that he is a bitter being.
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