Loved it. We don't see much about saws so I guess I'd like to see what you come up with. Doesn't matter really. I'll watch most anything you put out. I hope your family is well. --Greg
@MCsCreations
Жыл бұрын
Time travel! 😳
@jlw35cudvm
Жыл бұрын
You guys always inspire, inform, and entertain me. Much respect and appreciation
@robohippy
Жыл бұрын
I do like that lever cap set up. Interesting......
@transmundanium
Жыл бұрын
And it's not just the old craftsmen of the 19th century who built infill planes from kits. About 25 years ago I bought a casting set from St James Bay Tool Co and made a Norris-style parallel sided bronze smoother. And it has tarnished and worn and you can see how I hold it by the polished spots on the sides. Just like yours.
@Nedw
Жыл бұрын
I just tried that inverted front grip ( 9:07 ) on my regular Stanley n°3 and you know what? I think I'll use it from now! I'm a beginner so I don't have strong habits to overcome yet and this grip works well! I feel it better "connects" my arm muscles with the shoulder and back, to both press down and helps the other hand push forward (which makes the plane more stable as you pull a bit more instead of just pushing from behind the cutter with the other hand).
@johnford7847
Жыл бұрын
Nice job, Rex. I really think the biggest reason for switching to metal bodies or infill designs is the wear of wood-on-wood leading to the need for "boxing" to restore a wooden-body plane. You can shape a coffin-style smoother to fit your hands - as Krenov discusses. Perhaps the lack of such fitting in mass-produced wooden smoothers was the driving force for modifications such as you showed? You (and others) have shown how useful a hatchet can be in the workshop. I'd be interested to learn more about why they fell from favor and what tools replaced/displaced them.
@kennethbezanson4266
Жыл бұрын
Another great video! I don't know about buying an infill plane, but I'd be interested in a kit to make my own.
@psguardian
Жыл бұрын
I feel like there could be a series of tool stories just in plane types. Maybe starting with the more sought after collectibles (that you have or can borrow). Or scrapers.
@franciskisner920
Жыл бұрын
If the user held the tote in their Left hand, the index finger and thumb of the Right hand would naturally lie where you found the marks on the front sides. Thanks for the video.
@slomkaadas9603
Жыл бұрын
I love this series, please do it more. That was very interesting video. Thank you Cheers from Poland 🍻
@theidlehandsworkshop3884
Жыл бұрын
Heya big guy !!! I know it's been a while, as for what's something I would like to see or hear about ??? The Ultimatum Braces, you know, those high end ones with all the brass, silver, ivory, ebony, etc.. Aside from the materials, what makes them so special, why were they made like that, who would use such a high end tool... so many questions !!!
@MrRogsmart
Жыл бұрын
Good one. More please.
@MCsCreations
Жыл бұрын
Really interesting tool indeed, Rex! 😃 Thanks for the history lesson! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@terristroh3965
Жыл бұрын
Interesting. More!
@tonygohagan2766
Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a Tool Stories video on. . . the humble File and/or Rasp!
@D-B-Cooper
Жыл бұрын
When you hit the front of the plane you hold it upside down so you can see the blade. If you hit the iron you can’t see to fine tune it. I was hoping you would show the tiny one I have, about 4” long.
@thomaskoehler2456
Жыл бұрын
Is it possible that the owner was left-handed and so that's why the index finger and thumb marks were in unusual locations?
@lv_woodturner3899
Жыл бұрын
As a leftie myself, that sounds like a possibility.
@khogg3581
Жыл бұрын
Just plane interesting.
@tquirk8454
Жыл бұрын
Please make a guard for your chisels on the wall in the background. I get anxious seeing those razor sharp tips exposed just waiting to give you a nasty cut
@eshaangupta2845
Жыл бұрын
its still used in india by literally every carpenter lol
@andyc972
Жыл бұрын
So Rex, just when does the Compass Rose Infill plane kit become available ?
@LaraCroftCP
4 ай бұрын
I definitly would buy that and make my own infill plane.
@danwittmayer6539
Жыл бұрын
Rex I love these historical examinations of antique tools & furniture. The tote on the plane you analyze here, besides functional design, this piece is sculpturally gorgeous! I infer that the tool maker must have created exquisite furniture ❤. Thanks for all you do!
@kevinchamberlain7928
Жыл бұрын
Romans had infill planes 2000 years ago yielding shavings down to 3 thou. More accurate than a modern machine workshop. The misnomered carpenter they called "Jesus" was in the thick of the Roman/Judeo culture and very possibly worked on Roman projects, and may very well have had an infill plane! What we do know of this man (possibly called "Y'shuah) is he was a well-known carpenter in His own right, was the son of a well-known carpenter and only did the anti-religion campaign for the last 3 1/2 years of his life until was killed because of it. I am not a Christian or affiliated with any religion but as a carpenter and joiner myself, I feel an affinity with that guy! I also agree with his staunch anti-religion teachings!
@johanneswerner1140
Жыл бұрын
Plus don't forget the "don't be an ar**ho**" philosophy, the "golden imperative". Totally makes sense... (I'm a Christian, just not a church going one)
@alskjflaksjdflakjdf
Жыл бұрын
The other day I finally put together a bench vise based on your videos and it works great. But in the process I had to hand-joint a significantly twisted 2x10 board, and got a chance to use my wood river plane. Partway through I decided to try my Buck Bros made in India plane that I purchased for $40 and was shocked at how crappy the cheap plane performed. The blade and chip breaker are too thin to do a good job. The more expensive plane had a blade and chip breaker that was essentially twice as thick as the cheaper one. I bought twice and cried twice. I cried once when I bought the expensive plane, and again when I realized all that time I wasted fighting with the cheap plane. Anyways, you talking about planes made me think of my recent experience. Thanks for researching and posting this video!
@garydargan6
Жыл бұрын
Your comment on advances in planes being linked to the use of figured hardwoods reminded me of a stroy told by my high school woodwork teacher many years ago. When settlers first arrived in Australia they found that Australian hardwoods literally destroyed their soft steel English axes. This led to early Australian blacksmiths developing high quality hardened steel axes. Necessity as they say is the mother of invention.
@thomasarussellsr
Жыл бұрын
Personally, I find the infill planes quite beautiful. The iron and bronze/brass together with the wood is just a work of functional art, to me anyway.❤ I am a bit partial to the ones with an iron sole dove tailed to brass or bronze sides, but depending on the wood used and the patina, they can all tell a beautiful story. One only needs an inquisitive and open mind.👀😜
@ThunderSqueak
Жыл бұрын
for that grip, it makes me wonder if they were simply left handed and not using a weird grip
@HippoXXL
Жыл бұрын
Hi Rex! There's no specific tool I'm interested in, but for me it is the examination of those little spots and dents, that tell so much about the history of an item, that makes the story exciting. Greetings from Germany, Marcus
@Mark-xl8gg
Жыл бұрын
The marking of tools was often undertaken by the union to which the craftsman belonged,this continued in the uk until the late seventies
@vasky22
Жыл бұрын
Rex, love the video. Could the teeth marks be from planing down the workbench? Anyway, more videos like this please. Would really like to see your restoration of that gunmetal infill.
@BradsWorkbench
Жыл бұрын
Of course i want one... but i dont need one 😂
@AB-C1
Жыл бұрын
Great video again Rex! Cheers from London 👍🏴🇬🇧
@dave-qh7qr
Жыл бұрын
Great video👍👍👍 please keep history content coming. How about history of handsaws. A lot of makers out there.
@mikesalmo
Жыл бұрын
I’m still green but tool restoration is such a joy. I just picked up a random plane for $8 from an antique shop not knowing what it really was. It was so much fun researching its origins, etc. I restored it enough for use, but I like those details like the spots on the wood that show me how it was handled. The owner’s modifications are fascinating too, although I had to remove a rotten leather strip that seems to have been used to soften it bottoming out. Thinking about replacing it too. I spent an hour today cutting dados for drawer bottoms with it… that’s what it’s for. A mid 1800s specialty power tool. Ok, not really a power tool but I think I could knock out a drawer with it faster than setting up a table saw. The hand marks were a turbo in overcoming the learning curve. I got more than $8 worth of intellectual entertainment and a surprisingly useful tool. Plus the satisfaction of returning it to its purpose vs being in a display of “quaint old stuff.”
@karolskakes388
Жыл бұрын
With summer on us in North America, it is time for outdoor benches and stools - so maybe we could look at some large auger bits on T-handles and tapered reamers for fitting legs. Always look forward to your videos - great content!
@patkeefe5834
Жыл бұрын
Good vid, I recently brought a 1/2" infill shoulder plane. It has surprising heft, for it size. Does it work as well as the Veritas 1/2" shoulder plane, no, but it does look good in my office :)
@CrimeVid
Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure how it worked in the US Rex, but back in the day,in the UK particularly, carpenters and joiners did not earn a lot of money. And tools were comparatively expensive. So it was much more economical to make what you could, than it is today. In my lifetime the price of powertools is ridiculously lower than it was when I started in the sixties. My father,as a young architect , thought twice before buying a new tool for our home, and I meant a hand drill or a crosscut saw ! which now you could buy for a couple of hours work.
@DavZell
Жыл бұрын
Hi, Rex. I'm a longtime subscriber. I have some feedback that is likely only relevant to a small portion of your viewers. I have some issues with visual processing. The sliding transitions you use are often confusing to my brain and actually hurt my eyes. Some visual effects are fun for everyone, but as in this video, there were sections with quite a lot. I would be very grateful if you considered paring back on the funky transitions. Thanks for listening and all your videos. The teardown vids are my favorites.
@shanksjeffcott8598
Жыл бұрын
That was amazing and fun. I had no idea about all that. I have a coffin plain that I picked up for $5 au from i think in usa you call a thrift shop. Now im looking at different im thinking should i be like the old timers and do all the mods you you mentioned it would be a learning curve. I love history of tools please make more. My suggestion is draw knifes i just love them as well as spoke shave’s I would love for you to do something on them. Thanks again you rock i get so much out of your videos. You are very easy to listen to and you cover the topic without the over info. And for a person with extreme ADHD you keep me focused interested and give the right amount if of info to process which keeps me on the path to learn more woodwork. You rock. Im off to be creative.
@michaelnorris4629
Жыл бұрын
Yo Rex, I didn’t know it until know it until I watch this video, that I have a very close experience from making black powder guns from very rough kits from Italia. I had to match sand casted brass to roughly cut white oak. I learned how to put a shine on all of it and to make them function.
@kengoodwin459
Жыл бұрын
What's the difference between a shoulder plane and a rebate plane? .......looks like they do the same job.
@raphaelluckom1109
7 ай бұрын
I wonder if the marks from the planing stop and from being hit with a hammer could be from a small child "borrowing" the plane from Dad and playing around with it.
@Rodrat
Жыл бұрын
A kit to make these planes here would be really cool! I'd totally buy one.
@ongridself-reliantfamily1751
Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say that I really appreciate your use of the term "craftsman" in this video. I know that in some sense it isn't as inclusive of everyone interested in woodworking, using the modern meaning of words and phrases. But in the traditional understanding, a "craftsman" would have included any women in the trade. And I like the continuity of language so that people today can read the old books about woodworking, and not think that the old writers were sexist. I like the idea that we teach language today such that people can read the books that cover the history of the craft and get an accurate metal image of how things were. Thanks so much for the fun video about a beautiful old tool.
@tonyennis1787
Жыл бұрын
12:15 Also, a company called Stanley was producing metal planes that were easier to adjust, had standard irons, were more durable, and were more stable. But to make a Bailey-pattern plane you needed a foundry. The infill planes were in some ways the poor man's version - instead of being cast, they were made of hammered steel and brass plate and required very few tools to make.
@oncomics1128
Жыл бұрын
I would take a shot at a kit build but not for 200.00. And I'm not sure I need a fourth plane.
@upsidedowndog1256
Жыл бұрын
I suspect the couple of hammer marks on the toe of that plane were from getting it to fit properly. Imagine trying to make your tool by lamplight. These are all beautiful! Cool tools, Rex. Would love to have them but not necessarily use them.
@grumblycurmudgeon
Жыл бұрын
Psssh! "Lamplight"!? REAL men can make their tools in the dark! I can count on the fingers of both hands how many times I've wished for a light (though I admit: it takes all my fingers). Sooooo... two times. Hmmm... Yanno, on second though...
@rebent
Жыл бұрын
Rex, do you have any tools that shed light onto how the worker's life and lifestyle might have been different from today? When you talk about how workers had to make their own tools, I thought of how I have to make and manage my own laptop and car, in order to do my job. And it's also interesting to see how the tools themselves were modified and customized to keep them patched together, whereas I feel like today tools are disposed of and replaced while they still have a great deal of life left in them.
@scottswineford6714
Жыл бұрын
Sort of sideways. I've been thinking about the challenge low angle planes you and James made and was thinking turned on it's side and relocating the tote and you have a shooting plane.
@a_life_painted_with_color
Жыл бұрын
I imagine the front was hit by an apprentice that didn't know any better. There's only a couple of strike marks on the tool because after he was beaten for his mistake, he never did it again. It explains the plane stop marks as well.
@hawaiianryan1890
Жыл бұрын
The plane stop marks might be residual from planing the wood inside the plane itself before it was installed in the tool. Or, maybe it was just some kid playing with the plane.
@navret1707
Жыл бұрын
Rex - Isn’t it possible that Olden stole the plane from Wethersfield? Just a thought.
@davidpeters8813
Жыл бұрын
hard to say what we want because we don't know what you have :) You probably have things that some of us have never seen :) I love this video series though - keep it up.
@jamesnurgle6368
Жыл бұрын
biomechanically that grip could cause issues for your shoulder if you used it long term, unless they were reaching over something to use the plane "sideways"
@silamaleesri8661
Жыл бұрын
My favourite smoother is my infill spiers but the one I co spider fun to use is my coffin smoother. It's hard to grip until you find that magic grip just behind the iron and then it's an amazing tool
@AnonymousUser1776
Жыл бұрын
You’re going to do a video on restoring that Spiers? Right? Please? Pretty please with wood shavings on top?
@mariushegli
Жыл бұрын
I have nothing to say really, but I appreciate your content, and wish to help with the yt-algorithms.
@GreenlandRobot
Жыл бұрын
The plane stop marks on the toe might have been during assembly trying to get the perfectly fit back piece installed.
@LaraCroftCP
3 ай бұрын
I'm still waiting for the Compassrose infill plane kit.
@NAH1907
Жыл бұрын
Infill Planes are interesting piece of hand plane history, especially with how prevalent Stanley and Stanley copied planes there were during the time.
@Raye938
Жыл бұрын
Is there a way you can tell the user wasn't left handed and holding the thumb and finger in the same position but overhand?
@christopherblare6414
Жыл бұрын
Maybe the hammer marks on the front eere from someone adjusting the blade, but only a couple times before they decided not to.
@rhyskenny6429
Жыл бұрын
Hey Rex if you need a theme song or jingle for this new series I'd love to make one for you! :)
@pdloder
Жыл бұрын
It seems to me just from watching that the most ergonomic grip for the front hand would be palm heel on the near side brass thumb resting behind the wood and fingers on the far side brass. Is there a problem with that posture?
@scotsman7626
Жыл бұрын
This video is incredible, more please!
@RyanJBarnard
Жыл бұрын
Rex is there any chance of you making a kit for your tool business?
@paulmood308
Жыл бұрын
Wonder if he dug the plane in to a piece of hard wood and had to back strike it with a hammer to dislodge it? 🤔
@baileythesleepless9966
Жыл бұрын
I wonder if one of the original owners jammed it into the planing stop while re flattening their bench and had to hammer it off or something
@jimbo2629
Жыл бұрын
One metal plane for life and then pass it on. One coffin plane for a couple of years maybe.
@marcbarash6045
Жыл бұрын
like the way you slipped in your router plane add. (I have one)
@donaldasayers
Жыл бұрын
Til very recently an online store in the UK had the castings for sale.
@algio3041
Жыл бұрын
Maybe they weren’t holding it that way, maybe they were left handed.
@michaelsnell4034
Жыл бұрын
The only reason for hitting the planing stop that I can think of is that he was working on a thin veneer.
@mikecatherine3224
Жыл бұрын
I thought Rex was going to release a new kit for an infill plane
@seanfaherty
7 ай бұрын
you don't think the guy was left handed ?
@MrHerbie76
Жыл бұрын
I would like to see a video all about trammel points.
@Mikey__R
Жыл бұрын
I've got a later post war Norris A5. It clearly has the same DNA as the Spiers, but the tote connects to the frog at the top, plus it has a machine bolt running the height of the handle, across the grain to strengthen it.
@josephamer3545
Жыл бұрын
Have you ever heard of a compass plane?
@mumblbeebee6546
Жыл бұрын
I have been watching your videos for a long time now and you were great when you started already - but you have grown into such a great storyteller, visually as well as in story arc. This was a wonderful video, a real pleasure to watch! Thank you!
@rawr2u190
Жыл бұрын
Such an interesting video
@StefanTarras
Жыл бұрын
Great video Rex!. Very timely too, since I was at a antique mall yesterday and saw an infill hidden in the bottom of a case in the corner or a room. I didn't have time to track down the guy with the keys but I really want to go back and handle it and see if I can justify the $275 price tag on it.
@markduggan3451
Жыл бұрын
Very interesting video.
@tommoeller7149
28 күн бұрын
Cool!
@chrisp.76
Жыл бұрын
Love tool stories!
@noahfreeman8115
Жыл бұрын
loved this!
@DonaldMcDaniel-c4l
Жыл бұрын
interesting
@grumblycurmudgeon
Жыл бұрын
Are you sure on the grip? It looks consistent with someone who PULLED their plane backwards. I was taught this technique, so it doesn't strike me as odd, though I'm given to understand most think it is. It also would account for why he hit the stop: it's harder to gauge the end point pulling.
@RexKrueger
Жыл бұрын
I can't say I'm *sure* about much. I interpret the evidence as best I can.
@grumblycurmudgeon
Жыл бұрын
@@RexKrueger hey, fair enough. But seriously: flip it around like you'd use a Japanese plane. Left hand on tote, right on "knob", and try a few pulls down a piece of something hard (maple, ash, black walnut). Your right hand will fold over it naturally, with your right pinky and ring finger curling back to land on the body just where you indicated on the one side, and the outside ball of your palm on the other (almost like you're rowing, or pulling a huge lever). It'd account for your wear pattern, the stop marks, you'll get a lot more oomph and directional control, and you won't need the trapeze artists' grip. Edit: also, while I have your attention: you da man, bro. Love your content.
@jimbo2629
Жыл бұрын
After 50 years of woodworking and buying many planes I have discovered the best plane by far. It’s one I made myself and has Veritas hardware. What makes it so good? The quality of the Veritas iron and THE LOW ANGLE.
@zaredshawver9496
Жыл бұрын
So, can when we expect an announcement of a new tool line from compass rose?
@RexKrueger
Жыл бұрын
This Saturday ....if you're a Patron.
@jillatherton4660
Жыл бұрын
👍
@oncomics1128
Жыл бұрын
Could the hammer marks come from custom fitting a high up barn raft, ship part, carriage part where some how the plane gets jammed? Personally, I would use a hatchet or coping saw in such a spot but with a beam in your lap and getting heavier a plane might get be force (or luck) multiplier
@patrickgallagherfrevdrtor8665
Жыл бұрын
Hey Rex, interesting as always. Your comments about why metal planes, infills in this case, at the end of the 1800s made me think. Lots of challenging new hardwoods coming from where? Could it be the European plundering and carve up of the globe and particularly of Africa after the 1880s! If so, another interesting historical element in the story of tools, and like so much history, not terribly innocent such as colonialism wasn’t. Anyway, i enjoy your work from just down the road in C. Falls Oh. Keep up the good work.
@brbilheimer
Жыл бұрын
I went down the eBay rabbit hole last weekend. Got myself a cast iron saw vise for $35 with shipping. Needs a little cleanup but no major work.
@alexjames1146
Жыл бұрын
The Compass Rose Tools segue was seamless and perfect. 5 stars. Another interesting historical review. I would like to see more open shots of the tool. Thank you Mr K.
@aluyanoworkshop1166
Жыл бұрын
This content is brilliant, thank you Rex! A thought I had was about the history of Lie Nielsen. Especially some of their vintage, more esoteric tools. I realize that this project would be ...extravagent... but hey, if enough people feel the same, it might provide you with the perfect excuse!
@chasefreeman2188
Жыл бұрын
How did they use to get the handles and parts so smooth without sandpaper? Carving/scraping?
@mongocrock
Жыл бұрын
Who says they didn't have sandpaper. It was pricey, but they had it. Files would get you close, and you could use loose abrasives as well. Sandpaper is not new. Cheers
@RexKrueger
Жыл бұрын
I think scrapers are most likely. Maybe a bit of "glass paper". Then decades of use really smoothed it out.
@jonasdaverio9369
Жыл бұрын
You said the company needed their employees to work on highly figured wood and that you really need a metal sole for that. What's your reasoning? Is the metal needed for a smaller mouth? You can already do this with some dense hardwoods.
@jonasdaverio9369
Жыл бұрын
Oh, you answered my question later in my video
@jonasdaverio9369
Жыл бұрын
in the* video Strangely I cannot edit my comments anymore
@darodes
Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for the compass rose smoothing plane 😉😉😉😉😉
@osliverpool
Жыл бұрын
"Do you want a user-made infill plane for your shop?" Oh, yes! It's been a dream to find one here in the UK for ages, but I never have.
@bromulo2655
Жыл бұрын
These videos are so informational, if we are talking quality work then it’s your videos! 😂
@professor62
Жыл бұрын
One of your best, Rex! Verrrry interesting. Love these vids with historical context.
@rustysnails
Жыл бұрын
Answered all the questions I had about the origins of my unbranded smoother infill.
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