Hey everyone - so sorry for my error in this video - Jansson is of course Finnish and not Swedish. My apologies
@kirstenkremer-yq6yc
Ай бұрын
When you said, she was Swedish, I was surprised, because I remembered seeing a lot of the Moomins in Helsinki, so I looked her up on Wikipedia. And apparently both is kind of right. She was born in Helsinki and of Finnish nationality, but her native tongue was Swedish.
@ts5284
Ай бұрын
Please pin this!
@toinenosoite3173
Ай бұрын
The problem still remains, i.e. most people watching your short never look at the comments, i.e. they now think that Tove Jansson was Swedish.
@mikhail5002
Ай бұрын
There are many cultural Swedes who are citizens of Finland
@stonystarkindustries
Ай бұрын
either way, she made bilbo look like he's late for his stepson's birth in a nazarene manger or like he's got some real tough negotiations after lunch with a burning bush after which hes gotta get in touch with his special fx guy to see about splitting a sea or similar body of water in half , or somethin hahaha
@gedeonnunes5626
Ай бұрын
Then Tolkien thought "damn, whatever I write next, I should describe things in so much detail to avoid getting misinterpreted like that again"
@ezekielbrockmann114
Ай бұрын
"I'll make it indubitably simple, starting with first One Valinor, second Two Trees, ... Then Three Silmarils, ... No I think I'll start with just with Eru Iluvatar, "The One!" Or wait, ... Maybe just _One ring to Rule them All..._ Yeah that'll make a simple little story!"
@SigynRegn
29 күн бұрын
Apparently Amazon was not convinced anyway 😂.
@chigidychad9738
28 күн бұрын
@@SigynRegnugh… Pls don’t reminds me of rings of power… And there’s a part 2 😰!
@HughMansonMD
28 күн бұрын
And to this day, he is the only aspect of the book I'm not totally sure how Tolkien really wanted it to have looked. When I read the books, I picture him as a lanky, black thing with eel-like skin that crawls around on all four like how Spider-man crawls up walls, and has giant yellow-green eyes and facial features that are equal parts childish and decrepit old man-ish. Almost like a swamp monster version of the movie character, but not quite.
@Erufailon42
28 күн бұрын
My thoughts exactly. I did not realise Gollum was even supposed to be humanoid at all until I read in Lotr that he was supposed to be related to Hobbits. I always pictured him more frog like.
@walkerx1813
Ай бұрын
"...to break free of her Moomin style." *the front cover shows Bilbo drawn in a distinctly Moomin style*
@pillarsofsnow7940
Ай бұрын
Never said it was a successful attempt
@RandomghoulZX
Ай бұрын
And on top of that, her attempt at drawing Gollum looks like it could be related to the Groke.
@LordBrittish
Ай бұрын
Smaug looks awesome.
@fenrirgg
29 күн бұрын
Bilbo looks adorable haha
@Drekromancer
28 күн бұрын
@@LordBrittish I came here to say this. He has almost Roald Dahl-style children's book villain energy. I love it!
@unfunnyducky
Ай бұрын
The large Gollum is so unsettling 😬
@Emppu_T.
Ай бұрын
The obunga version of gollum
@runew9732
28 күн бұрын
Yeah, even though it's far too large to be Gollum, it'd be an amazing creature to have in a story. It's definitely the thing that's always right behind you when you're alone and have spooked yourself out at 3 am
@Rolfhn
27 күн бұрын
@@Emppu_T. The Bubba version of gollum
@appleannz
26 күн бұрын
it looks more like a Barrow wight creature 🥹😅
@not_the_useless_cake856
25 күн бұрын
It looks like the Minecraft Warden.
@kentknightofcaelin4537
Ай бұрын
"Trying to break free of her Moomin-style"? I love those illustrations but they look exactly like the Moomins.
@2nd2lastdodo
Ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly 😂
@anttibjorklund1869
Ай бұрын
Yeah... If she was trying to do that, she failed.
@dirgniflesuoh7950
Ай бұрын
Actually, they remind me of Hans Arnold and "Matulda och Megasen" ...
@DefeatedElite
Ай бұрын
@@dirgniflesuoh7950"uhhmmm achshually" 😂😂😂
@ValeriePallaoro
Ай бұрын
Totally agreed. If that was the aim, she didn't meet the brief. But Tolkein? this is tenuous at best.
@daniel-zh9nj6yn6y
Ай бұрын
The dwarves and Smaug look like Samurai Jack characters.
@martaleszkiewicz5115
28 күн бұрын
That was my thought, too!
@mookinbabysealfurmittens
27 күн бұрын
Samesies!
@stanisawkrzyzaniaktheoviraptor
27 күн бұрын
Smaug is distinctly moomin style tho
@Korligan1
25 күн бұрын
That’s not how time works. You meant to say, ”Some of the Samurai Jack characters look like Tove Jansson designs.” Since she was decades ahead I mean.
@daniel-zh9nj6yn6y
25 күн бұрын
@@Korligan1 You're right, but you know what I meant.
@KT-jh4ty
Ай бұрын
That illustration is so different from Tolkien's Gollum, it does not even remind of a hobbit-like creature which was the author's intention. Thank you for the fun fact!
@MaksymCzech
Ай бұрын
It reminds Morra from the Moomin world
@curtthegamer934
Ай бұрын
At the time that Tolkien wrote The Hobbit, Gollum was just a mysterious creature who lived in a cave. Tolkien didn't come up with the idea that Gollum was a Hobbit until he wrote LOTR.
@atzuras
Ай бұрын
In fact, the re-writting of The Hobbit or the 2nd or 3rd edition was to link it up with the already published LOTR. "Riddles in the Dark" chapter was highly changed in the way Bilbo found the One Thing and the ill-tempered Gollum, as well as all chapters with the One Thing. The most important change after Gollum was when Bilbo lied to Gandalf to hide his "preciouss" from unwanted attention
@pihlajafox
Ай бұрын
Did you listen to the video?
@martaleszkiewicz5115
28 күн бұрын
Wait, Gollum used to be a Hobbit?
@mattgron6913
Ай бұрын
It didn’t even occur to me that these three amazing authors were contemporaries, amazing
@AntonAdelson
24 күн бұрын
Yes! Me too!!
@vipr1142
23 күн бұрын
I dont know where Tove Jansson changed her style. All those illustration looks just like moomin.
@littlecatthewolfhound
22 күн бұрын
Them, C.S. Lewis of course, and (my favorite) Mervyn Peake.❤
@faolan2174
19 күн бұрын
@@littlecatthewolfhoundalso Edward Eager and Betty MacDonald.
@user-xt8fm3tv6x
16 күн бұрын
Drop your phone a d pick up a book
@evankauffman2139
27 күн бұрын
To be fair, the idea that the One Ring could corrupt a hobbit to be *that fucking monstrosity* is perhaps even scarier than canon Gollum.
@mareksicinski3726
20 күн бұрын
No it isn’t It’s not a monstrosity and it’s not corrupted, it’s just a troll in the style of Scandinavian folklore
@Lampoluke
19 күн бұрын
Gollum is scarier as a rotten fish-person, than a troll.
@Markcrazeer
17 күн бұрын
@@mareksicinski3726 Well. Is description alone tje only reason we know that thing is a hobbit? If not then no op is right that is still a hobbit and that the one ring can do that to him is horrific.
@VeteranVandal
16 күн бұрын
@@Lampoluke I agree. The prospect of hobbits, incredibly mentally strong willed creatures that are so communal and loving being instantly corrupted by the ring is a lot more scary. It means that the corrupting power of the ring is just a matter of time for the most of creatures, with exception of the most powerful ones (the Valar, Bombadil, Eru, and probably not a lot more creatures can withstand it's power). Creating the Ring was clever and in the sense that it tricks more in the sense of being seemingly underwhelming, like a small irresistible vice.
@Mike-qz4by
16 күн бұрын
I'd fuck it
@quentandil
Ай бұрын
In the first edition, Gollum is not described much, you could imagine him as you pleased. It was during the writing of TLOTR that Tolkien decided that Gollum was a hobbit, so he specified the description in the revised version, among other changes.
@Danka42
24 күн бұрын
I imagined him as a kind of lizard man
@WideMouth
16 күн бұрын
@@Danka42 That’s basically how they depict him in the old Hobbit cartoon by Rankin/Bass
@rurubelle2920
14 күн бұрын
It's weird though... I read The Hobbit when I was 8 years old (I don't know what edition it was, but it was a wide paperback with the illustration of Smaug lying on top of the pile of treasure, it was very beat up and falling apart and could very well have been printed before the 60s idk...) and when I read the chapter Riddles in the Dark, I imagined Gollum pretty much like how Jansson drew him in this book - like a big hulking black creature with 2 big yellow eyes. I don't know why, but something about how Tolkien described him made me think he was big and wide and towered over Bilbo. Then the LOTR movies came out when I was a teen, and when I watched them for the first time I was like "uhhh... that's not how Gollum is supposed to look like." It was just so jarring to see this skinny little thing that's smaller than the hobbits. It did not make sense to me. Like, if I read Riddles in the Dark now with the image of skinny Gollum in mind, the entire chapter doesn't feel as scary or harrowing. Bilbo's fear of Gollum doesn't feel justified somehow, i don't know 🤷♀️
@thejestingfool
Ай бұрын
I love this fact, but just to note, Tove Jansson was Finnish, and her mother's tongue was swedish, one of the actual official languages spoken in Finland. She is regarded as one of the most beloved illustrators and authors of Finland.
@notarnar8336
Ай бұрын
i heard "sent between two of swedens most famous authors" and immidiately knew they were going to incorrectly assume Tove was swedish
@TL_1920
Ай бұрын
As a finn it really hurt my ear but its kinda understandable tbh…
@alb3598
Ай бұрын
Her mother was Swedish and her father was also Swedish, her father comes from the Swedish part of Finland, aka. Fenno-Swedish. ”Jansson” is also a Swedish surname, his and her native language was also Swedish. So she was indeed Swedish.
@notarnar8336
Ай бұрын
@@alb3598 This is like saying the people who live in the german-speaking part of switzerland are german. Tove's nationality was finnish, despite her parents or language. The people who live in the Swedish part of Finland are still Finnish.
@anttibjorklund1869
Ай бұрын
@@alb3598Finland has two official languages, one of which is Swedish. Jansson was born in Helsinki and her father was a Swedish speaking Finn. That makes her Finnish.
@PolishBigfootCircle11
Ай бұрын
That first version of Gollum is terrifying!
@ezekielbrockmann114
Ай бұрын
Totally agree. Like the ring has transformed him into a subterranean giant that bites off the toes of little girls playing in the forest blueberries in Summertime.
@zacmumblethunder7466
Ай бұрын
@@ezekielbrockmann114Blimey, that's one heck of an image you've dreamt up there!
@csecskristof
Ай бұрын
@@ezekielbrockmann114 Yeah, damn. Thats a description and a half. The picture really reminds me of some of the swedish trolls depictions. Which kinda matches it too XD
@quicksilvertongue3248
29 күн бұрын
The tree-like head is kinda dumb, but the feet dangling into the water really reminds me of the animated Hobbit, whose amphibian looking Gollum I regard as the definitive version.
@DannyD-lr5yg
28 күн бұрын
@@ezekielbrockmann114lol I read that as “bites off the toes of little girls like they’re blueberries” 😂
@DavidBrocekArt
24 күн бұрын
This is why I love artists that make their art solely off the text description instead of just re-drawing actor faces and scenes from movies. It's amazing to see how each person imagines the story in their own way
@RshadowA
23 күн бұрын
That's a good point but you do realise that the LOTR movies hadn't even been imagined yet, so how could she draw characters based off the movies depiction of them?
@ColleenLytle-sq8tx
21 күн бұрын
Thank you, I'm an artist, and I don't like having to copy someone else's version or vision. I create what's in me - not copy someone.
@faolan2174
20 күн бұрын
You should check out Jazza. He's done several videos about drawing characters specifically based on their descriptions.
@Kyle-nm1kh
15 күн бұрын
Jazza
@litjellyfish
10 күн бұрын
@@faolan2174true. Still I mean his is more for entertainment value. Still today 99% of a books early illustrations is based on book descriptions. And in few cases additional info from the author but it’s not so coming. A bit more can be feedback from author on the illustrations after then are done / sketches. How it’s done you don’t even check the Jazza videos. 1. You read the book. 2. You start imaging the scene you know you are about to draw a bit when reading the book. 3. You sketch it out. 4. Done
@cybrmaTS
Ай бұрын
I love the illustrations in this, especially with the dwarves it reminds me off the old medieval tapestry depictions.
@latewizard301
Ай бұрын
Today i learned that Tove made that Gollum sketch... and now i wanna watch Moomin again 😂
@vipr1142
23 күн бұрын
As a Swede, I never liked moomin. Always found the illustration boring. I liked all of Astrids work tho. Especially The lionheart brothers. The theme song is so good, when I hear it, it cuts my heart reminding me of my childhood But I dont see Tove Jansson changing her illustration style with the hobbit. Looks just like moomin
@latewizard301
23 күн бұрын
@@vipr1142 never knew she was behind Lionheart Brothers. I remember watching the movie at school and Ronja Røverdatter in literature class. None of us really spoke swedish though, so we asked if we could have it dubbed, the teacher said no and we had to deal with it XD
@Xeorboom
23 күн бұрын
well that Gollum certainly looks a lot like The Bleak (I think that was it's name)
@elite_rock_god2292
23 күн бұрын
Fun fact, I always found the moomin horrifying 😂
@tim4330
Ай бұрын
Im guesting by attempt 60 she was just said , "F it guess it is the Moomin of the rings now. "
@M.Datura
20 күн бұрын
Or that was just her art style.
@dies200
Ай бұрын
It is wild to me thinking that not only did Astrid Lindgren, Towe Jannson and J.R.R Tolkien were alive during the same time, but they had enough contact with each other for this to happen
@upsidedahead
8 күн бұрын
Amazing to think that people actually used to write letters?!?! Blows my mind 🤦♂️
@__zj__
Ай бұрын
Both are legendary. Astrid Lindgren is not only the Pippi longstocking lady, she's written many books that are considered classics, that have turned into many classic movies and tv series - she's a household name in Sweden. Tove Jansson, who was finland-swedish(which in her case meant a swedish-speaking minority in Finland. the term can also mean Finnish people living in Sweden who speak with the finland-swedish dialect). Both Astrid Lindgren's creations and the Moomins were a childhood staple for swedes 😊.
@helloworld37547
Ай бұрын
Astrid was also an editor in a publishing house, her view on what a good children book looks like has changed children literature not only in Sweden but in many other countries ❤
@onerva0001
27 күн бұрын
Oh yes, Astrid Lindgrens books are well known in Finland too, they were among my favourite stories as a kid!
@Bloink
24 күн бұрын
Astrid was a fucking legend
@jcortese3300
Ай бұрын
I find this interesting, mostly because when I and a friend read "The Hobbit" in high school, we also had two very different images in our heads. I saw Gollum as small and emaciated, and she saw Gollum more as Janssen did although not as tall. So even with that change, the misconception could still persist even today.
@Lahiss
23 күн бұрын
My first mental image of Gollum while reading the Hobbit was like Don Rosa's interpretation of Iku-turso: zestedesavoir.com/media/galleries/6078/64f09a09-fcf0-4d75-81a0-7595bffad8c4.jpg (Though obviously not kaiju sized).
@djsjfcccc7306
Ай бұрын
I knew Gollum was a Sasquatch the whole time😂
@jenniferlonnes7420
26 күн бұрын
Original Gollum looks like the aliens on Sesame Street. "Yep, yep, yep, yep."
@aracelylopezpsyd5794
26 күн бұрын
Hahaha! 😂 Yessss! That’s where I have seen that head! No wonder it didn’t feel so scary to me! 😅 Thanks Sesame! It looks like a cranky elongated version of them!
@deanrane1961
20 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@laukinath194
9 күн бұрын
I'm glad someone else remembers those XD Yipyipyipyip - Radio!
@afrikasmith1049
24 күн бұрын
Moral of the story: Character development is important, but physically appearance should never be neglected.
@WatercolourTears
Ай бұрын
Tove Jansson also did amazing illustrations for a new edition of Alice's Adventures In Wonderland.
@lordedmundblackadder9321
Ай бұрын
I actually read the original version of the hobbit when I read the book the first time, so I was very confused when I watched the film and he was just a little skinny guy.
@cybercrasherstv
Ай бұрын
Sucks that you do such incredible work drawing and put so much effort into refining your craft, only for the author to see your work and think "God, that description was bad, wasn't it?" How common is this version of the hobbit, it looks great
@21centurymagic
Ай бұрын
Damn developer nerfing content
@lulu111_the_cool
Ай бұрын
I don't understand, she made him realize that that his vague description could be misleading to what he had into his mind.
@cybercrasherstv
Ай бұрын
@@lulu111_the_cool and now her work became outdated as a result
@lulu111_the_cool
Ай бұрын
@@cybercrasherstv outdated and I imagen worth a lot. Writing a book is a lot of effort. So he could have forgotten to update his appearance to the newly updated version of HIS story. There are likely many iterations before a story is completed.
@Blixthand
Ай бұрын
The original 60's edition is not impossible to get hold of, but expect to pay anywhere between 800 and 2000 dollars for it. A re-release of the same edition was printed in limited numbers in the 90's. I paid 150 dollars for my 90's edition a few years ago, but it's not uncommon to see these listed for upward of 1000 dollars as well. Don't know if anyone actually pays that much, but I rarely see listings for less.
@gamerboi0421
Ай бұрын
a small correction Tove Jansson was Finnish but her mother tongue was Swedish
@hanstun1
Ай бұрын
Lots of confusion about her, which is understandable. You would think that including a world famous Swedish author in the statement "Sweden's most famous authors" would be correct but it isn't.
@user-lm9oq6yw6n
Ай бұрын
She is finnish-swedish. The minority group in Finland. Finns but with swedish mothertounge. Source: i am one.
@tiiti2003
Ай бұрын
Came here to say this as well
@BrassAmbassador
Ай бұрын
Trust me, nobody cares.
@Leymora
Ай бұрын
@@BrassAmbassador And no one asked you
@PrettyPoppyGirl651
Ай бұрын
"Sketched each character between 20 & 60 times" I could never before I gave up & cried
@M.Datura
20 күн бұрын
Considering sketches can take as little as a minute, there's a possibility it wasn't as long as one might think, and for someone who does sketch a lot, this isn't that much, but I suppose when people do their craft long enough patience in it is just second nature.
@ekaterinalokshina2043
Ай бұрын
The pictures are so characteristically hers it's heart warming))) It's like this Bilbo is a distant cousin of Freken Snork's))) And Golum is related to Morra. Tove Jansson is not Swedish, she is Finnish. It's just that for some people in Finland the mother tongue is Swedish. So she wrote in Swedish. I love Astrid Lindgren and Tove Jansson.
@debrickashaw9387
Ай бұрын
I love Tove Jansson and the moomins. Her illustrations wasnt that popular at the time though but I love them
@P3achmilk
Ай бұрын
I personally love her depiction, it looks so cool
@timswabb
Ай бұрын
Tolkien didn’t necessarily think of Gollum as hobbit-sized when The Hobbit was published in 1937. But by 1960 he had written The Lord of the Rings, in which Gollum is described as hobbit-like. If Jansson had read both The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings, she would have seen that Gollum was hobbit-sized. But the first Swedish translation of The Lord of the Rings was made by Åke Ohlmarks in 1959-1961, so it may not have been available to Jansson in 1960. And even if it was, it wasn’t the book Jansson had been asked to illustrate.
@helloworld37547
Ай бұрын
That was so interesting, thanks
@user-lm9oq6yw6n
Ай бұрын
She is/was finnish-swedish (Finlandssvensk). The Swedish speaking minority group in Finland. Finns but with swedish mothertounge. Source: i am one.
@mredd888
Ай бұрын
Do most people in other parts of Finland know Swedish as well? Or is it very much only that minority group you are part of?
@Sp3pS
Ай бұрын
@@mredd888i think it's one of the official languages of finland actually
@robinharwood5044
Ай бұрын
@@mredd888 No, there are plenty of Finns who don’t speak Swedish. I once had an interview with an official who couldn’t speak either English or Swedish. Fortunately, I had a Finnish girlfriend who could speak Swedish, could translate for me.
@SnailHatan
Ай бұрын
He didn’t say anything about where she was from. He said she was one of Sweden’s most beloved authors, which is factually correct. She wrote in Swedish, and was obviously more popular in Sweden than Finland because of that.
@aumatomos7811
28 күн бұрын
@@SnailHatan Simo Häyhä was one of USA's most beloved snipers
@Rocketboy1313
Ай бұрын
What is another layer of interesting: many of the fragmented myths and legends in real life are bad at timelines, describing appearances (by some accounts Gilgamesh was 18ft tall), and the idea of characters being interpreted wildly off model because of a lack of... mythological style guide? Would make sense.
@elizabethclark394
Ай бұрын
Thank you for this post, I knew Tove J was Finnish but never realised that Astrid L was Swedish, a fun fact learnt today. Just proves that most authors take note of what is happening in the publishing world via their editor or agent, this certainly clarified Gollum for JRRT's readership (and probably Peter Jackson)
@ShatteredAutomaton
Ай бұрын
"Old Gollum, the small slimy Gollum."
@manofcultura
29 күн бұрын
Really didn’t expect the Moomin Gollum timeline, but apparently I’m in it.
@fgdj2000
Ай бұрын
Honestly, more than anything I want to give this version of Gollum a big big hug! That's an inspired interpretation in this day and age. The illustrations in general are quite beautiful and take me back to my own childhood where my grandma read Astrid Lindgren to me, probably with illustrations from the same artist.
@kalleh6400
Ай бұрын
Tove Jansson was Finnish but was from swedish speaking area of Finland.
@alb3598
Ай бұрын
And these ”Swedish speaking areas of Finland” descend from Swedes. Jansson, her father’s surname is a Swedish surname. You’re also completely disregarding the fact that her mother was also Swedish from Stockholm. Why are you so desperate to lie that she is Finnish when she is Swedish?
@kalleh6400
Ай бұрын
@@alb3598 All areas of Finland descent from Sweden, swedish is our second national language, my Grandfathers father was swedish but still most of my blood comes from Karelia and Keski-suomi. Swedish surnames are extremely common in Finland I know hunderds of people who has swedish surname but is 100% finnish. Plus Tove was born and died in Helsinki which is the Capital of Finland. He lived big part of her life in the Turku archipelago which is still part of Finland. Any finnish person can back me up on this.
@oz_jones
Ай бұрын
@@alb3598she was Finnish.
@jokemon9547
Ай бұрын
@@alb3598 Many Fenno-Swedes are actually descendants of Finns who linguistically assimilated to the Swedish speaking population during the 1600s and 1700s. Fenno-Swedes also speak their own form of Swedish, which is influenced by Finnish in tone and vocabulary. Everything about Fenno-Swedes makes them unique to Finland, which is why they're FENNO-Swedes and not just Swedes. And if you were to tell the many Fenno-Swedish people who were involved in Finnish nationalism in the 1800s that they were just Swedes, they would be insulted. The only exception to this is Åland and in fact, Åland was the only Swedish speaking region of Finland that wanted to join Sweden in any significant degree when Finland gained independence from Russia in 1917.
@onerva0001
27 күн бұрын
@@alb3598Fenno-swedes of Finland are not Swedish, they are Finnish. I don't understand why you are arguing this. Yes her mother was Swedish but Tove was born and lived in Finland her whole life.
@maryannec.moravec6289
Ай бұрын
Really love this channel. Great content but it’s the enthusiastic delivery that really make them special. Thanks for the enjoyment.
@dyslexicboogaloo
24 күн бұрын
It’s cool that they got the actor who plays Gollum to give us some insight into the character’s history.
@00ammy00
25 күн бұрын
Had no idea one of my favorite children's authors also illustrated the Hobbit! Bilbo looks so cute!!
@berrycarbs
29 күн бұрын
The best illustrations for Tolkien is imho still those made by the Danish princess and later monarch Queen Margrethe…
@toxic.forest
Ай бұрын
I love her illustrations!
@friedriceman
27 күн бұрын
Still crazy how many artists drawing Gollum after the addition of only a few more adjectives managed to come up with basically the same design for him. You can see how all the interpretations of the Balrog were very different, but somehow Gollum basically looks the same across those same artists.
@marklingerfelt4965
Ай бұрын
I have read all of these books, as a kid. Interesting to hear the behind the scenes information. Thank you.
@c.j.nyssen6987
Ай бұрын
Jansson's Gollum looks like the Groke with legs.
@appelelle
22 күн бұрын
As a Scandinavian Tolkien fan, this book is the literal holy grail.
@Altinget
26 күн бұрын
We have become so used to the looks of Gollum that it's hard to imagine any other way it could be.
@personalsigh
Ай бұрын
Those illustrations though.... Blimey
@664Igor
Ай бұрын
Have you seen the Hobbit edition produced in the USSR? In the post-Soviet space, this publication has gained a cult status. It also had unique illustrations
@Pomodoroegg
28 күн бұрын
To the artstyle, it’s “her” style, not just moomin style, but her own style in my opinion.
@NoobNoobNews
Ай бұрын
I would not say that the artist succeeded in her mission to draw that much differently. Although, I think I prefer these illustrations above all others I have ever seen.
@ValeriePallaoro
Ай бұрын
1) That these two got together is amazing and wonderful but 2) how did Lindgren (not the author of the Hobbit) get to ask Jansson to do the drawings. And her drawings are very much Moominville still.
@helloworld37547
Ай бұрын
Lindgren worked in a publishing house, in fact she was editor-in-chief (her position in documents was literature consultant, but it was to avoid different rumours). It was her idea to make such edition.
@Jemppu
Ай бұрын
Hey!! Randomly seen few of your shorts lately, and all of a sudden here you are now talking about our national treasure, Jansson ❤️❤️❤️ I had no idea Tove had such impact on the actual LotR lore! How awesome! (Greetings from Finland ^^)
@mollietenpenny4093
Ай бұрын
I wish there was a special edition of this version of the Hobbit in English so I can have it with Tove's illustrations! I absolutely love her art style.🥰❤️
@G0RSHK0V
Ай бұрын
Suomi is disappointed over mentioning Tove Jansson as Swedish...
@Lil-Britches
Ай бұрын
Thats awesome, smouag. I like the illustrations. ❤
@smilodon
Ай бұрын
Tove Jansson was from Finland wasn't she? Part of the swedish speaking minority but still Finnish I think.
@alb3598
Ай бұрын
Just because someone is born in a specific country doesn’t make them ethnically that. Her father was a Finno-Swedish with a Swedish surname(Swedish descendants from back when Sweden owned Finland, still speaking and ethnically Swedish) and her mother who was a Swedish from Sweden.
@robinharwood5044
Ай бұрын
@@alb3598 “Ethnicity” doesn’t matter. Citizenship, birthplace, and upbringing do. She was a Finnish citizen, born in Finland, brought up and educated in Finland, and speaking the Finnish dialect of Swedish. Those are the things that made her the person she was, not her ancestors. I don’t understand why you keep saying she was Swedish, but it’s time to stop.
@kanukki84
21 күн бұрын
@@alb3598 Alb how can you be so stupid and ignorant? You embarrass yourself.
@LillllyPad
8 күн бұрын
@@alb3598This isn’t the US. We don’t claim our ancestors nationality over here, Tove Jansson was a Swedish Speaking Finish person. She lived in Finland and had a Finish passport.
@patchpatch4008
29 күн бұрын
I literally had no idea that Tov did an illustration version for the hobbit. Thats awesome!
@TheMaciej0092
17 күн бұрын
Thank you Mr Ballen for creating a history on the internet. History of many great sunday nights just before starting a week of work.
@marko_g_korenski
Ай бұрын
Love the Moomin,love The Tolkien's books! 🥰🥰
@kasperkankkunen8664
Ай бұрын
Tove Jansson is Finnish tho. Still cool story.
@alb3598
Ай бұрын
Her mother is Swedish from Sweden and her father Fenno-Swedish(Swedes that live in the Swedish part of Finland). So saying that she is isn’t Swedish but that she is Finnish is a lie.
@kasperkankkunen8664
Ай бұрын
@@alb3598 I'm Finnish. So I know bit more about our culture than you. Some of my ancestors come from shores of Lake Ladoga but that doesn't make me Russian descent. Tove's mother is Swedish but doesn't make Tove Swedish. She never had dual citizen ship. And her father is finlandssvenskar. Last time his ancestors were considered Swedish were when Finland was under the Swedish rule.
@FF-ch9nr
Ай бұрын
moomin-style hobbit?! i need a copy of that
@dutchletters
Ай бұрын
Originally, there were no “Riddles in the Dark” Gollum just gives the ring to Bilbo.
@jrpipik
Ай бұрын
That's not quite right. Bilbo finds the Ring while stumbling around in the dark, just as in the final version. When Bilbo wins the riddle contest (with the controversial "riddle" of "What have I got in my pocket?"), Gollum leads him out of the caves. In the final version, after losing the game Gollum realizes he's lost his Ring and Bilbo must have it, after which he attacks him. Bilbo escapes by putting on the Ring and becoming invisible.
@DJchilcott
Ай бұрын
Swedish Gollum isn't real, it can't hurt you...
@kanukki84
21 күн бұрын
We had a TV series in Finland based on The Lord of the Rings, it was called The Hobbits. In one scene when Gollum turns to the camera we can see in all his glory his err krhm balls. If anything, it was actually the scary Gollum and he was played by a chubby man who also played Aragorn :D Unfortunately, the full series can be found here on KZitem.
@TheIncredibleJounan
Ай бұрын
I'm swedish and I am well aware of Tove Janssons illustrations, I wasn't aware that Astrid Lindgren was the editor for the translation however. I am awfully tempted to learn how to make AI that sounds like Astrid Lindgren and have her read the hobbit. My entire childhood was of Astrid reading her books and her very distinct voice calms me in an almost sleeper agent way.
@andrewthomas891
27 күн бұрын
Thank you for this fascinating history!
@colinloh6427
27 күн бұрын
My precious. Gollum. Gollum.
@connorglaze538
Ай бұрын
Maybe she could have done with another 60 attempts. Not complaining though the Moomin art style kicks ass
@nallenthepuh
Ай бұрын
What role did Astrid Lindgren play in the Swedish publication of Bilbo?
@herebeorhthowland-bolton9584
Ай бұрын
You mean the hobbit?
@helloworld37547
Ай бұрын
She worked in a publishing house in Stockholm, it was her idea to make this edition.
@BrentWigginsWords
18 күн бұрын
Words and illustration are a powerful imaginative force.
@thecharredwitch
25 күн бұрын
Fr the big gollum in the second pic is so much scarier
@CrossToBear1234
Ай бұрын
Behk
@paulsarnik8506
Ай бұрын
I'd change it too if some Mickey Finn tried to turn MY Gollum into half an ENT🤷🏼♂️🤔🤓😎✌🏼🇬🇧
@DerSaa
14 күн бұрын
"Trying to break free of the Moomin style" ah ja.... if you showed me this artstyle unprepared I would be immediately like: "This looks like a Moomin version of Frodo!" 😂
@zoazede351
22 күн бұрын
I absolutely ADORE those illustrations!!
@rabbit7754
9 күн бұрын
Thank you KZitem recommendations for this absolute underrated gem of a video
@interroga-te-ipsum
24 күн бұрын
Love all three of them. Lindgren and Jansson are two very, very big rolemodels of female writers for me. They are so underrated. Most people don't realize that some books for children are as deep and serious as only few books for adults are. ❤
@Remolle
24 күн бұрын
I recognize that book cover! It's the version my dad read to me as a child. This short brought back some nice memories 😃
@abesapien9930
9 күн бұрын
The dwarves look like medieval characters from a stained glass window.
@erikliljeberg3291
20 күн бұрын
Tove Jansson’s Gollum looks awesome though. It might not fit the character’s personality, but design-wise I think it looks really cool.
@tb.7788
20 күн бұрын
Man Smaug looks amazing in that art style.
@illerkilller
2 күн бұрын
I have this book! The first print from the 1960s. I inherited it from my aunt and I read it as a child. Good times :)
@SylzeMim-rw9ph
Ай бұрын
Love this edition so much, it was one of my reason for learning to read when I was little, beautiful illustrations❤
@justinwoodrum1260
9 күн бұрын
Michael Hague's Hobbit illustrations are second to none.
@6DunJuan9
27 күн бұрын
Wow the creator of Moomin looks exactly happier than I never imagined I hoped they do
@user-js3vx3be8x
7 сағат бұрын
Да, в книге Толкина Голум прям эталонно нарисованный, даже лучше чем в фильме.
@hermanhemlig
24 күн бұрын
I grew up with that version, it is beautiful.
@user-mg9eq4mp8s
Ай бұрын
That's so Beautiful how her imagination shaped something so foreign to our modern gollum! He's so cool!
@magicmyc2672
22 күн бұрын
Marty will never be homeless, he will always have a rent free place in cyraxx’s head.
@foxxy_6635
21 күн бұрын
That’s why in my book I describe all the characters in as much detail as possible, so that no one would think that any of them have a different skin color, or hair color, or whatever.
@EamonBurke
26 күн бұрын
I love these illustrations!
@YourNavajoBro
19 күн бұрын
Pippi longstocking now thats a name I haven't heard in years. No bs lol
@RainbowLegion
Ай бұрын
I've seen this version of Gollum before bjt didn't know the backstory was so cool
@riduanaqil1452
23 күн бұрын
For the cleverbot thing i love how hunter used his robot voice at first and when the mc says "ben" he added his little boy voice to the robot voice 😂
@filipmorar3516
12 күн бұрын
We need this on spotify asap
@sosobel5843
23 күн бұрын
Bro looks like a Hobbit tho 💀
@WaveOfTheRager
11 күн бұрын
That thing that emerges from the forest in the moomins scared the hell out of me as a kid. Her illustration style definitely has a creepiness to it imo
@bovasi
22 күн бұрын
As a Swede, and a Tolkien fan, this is so cool. I did not know this.
@jefferydavidson5347
Күн бұрын
I remember watching the Hobbit movie after reading the book and being extremely surprised at the way Gollum was depicted. The book doesn’t describe him very well, I completely understand the misinterpretation the artist had.
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