Shit what's crazy is hdzero gets a full frame done and out the way BEFORE any other digital system even sees the first bright pixel 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@Stefan_73
Жыл бұрын
The OpenSource claim is in my view rather marketing. The real core of the system (ie video transmission) is closed source and the HW core is single vendor. But hey, you can change the menu layouts etc.
@RyanQuellet
Жыл бұрын
Tell that to the open source devs working hard on the software 🥲
@ChrisRosser
Жыл бұрын
Analog is also closed source at the chipset level. Owned and sold by Richwave.
@Stefan_73
Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRosser correct. So we agree that HDZero is not really OpenSource - as all other systems too. The real core of all systems is proprietary. So why such agressive marketing?
@ChrisRosser
Жыл бұрын
I think it's valid because the main criticisms of DJI and Walksnail systems were not down to the video link but features such as Betaflight Canvas Mode. FPVWTF had to root DJI to work on those features and we had to rely on Walksnail to implement them. HDZero's open source software makes it super easy to add support for new features in the future so they will always get the new stuff first. In FPV there is a consistent trend of open source software surpassing closed source in terms of perfrormance and features (ELRS, OpenVTX, Open/Edge TX, Betaflight).
@elxero2189
Жыл бұрын
That's why they specifically say what is open source. A lot is missed in the details you have to pay closer attn to catch.
@jeffparisse4202
Жыл бұрын
I’m in the first 500 too. I’ve been flying FPV over 20 years and have spent WAY more than this for googles in the past. These are the best ever made for zipping around. Variable latency is un-flyable to me… My brain flys in real time through breakups… I need the space time continuum to remain solid to do that effectively. Dealing with noise (analog or digital) is what hardcore FPV is all about.
@evilc2048
Жыл бұрын
Any chance of latency data for Walksnail VRX on HDZero goggles?
@cloud9Technology
Жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, great presentation as always!! I love the flexibility of these goggles. I can use them with my hdzero vtx drones, and analog drones (with goggle expansion module). Plus with the hdmi input I can also attach the Walksnail VRX to these goggles and fly walksnail as well. For racing HDZero is hands down the best, but for freestyle I may use the Walksnail VRX with the HDZero goggles for better penetration and video quality. I would love to see a review of how well the HD Zero goggles work with the walksnail VRX. It would be awesome to see comparison of hdzero goggles with walksnail vrx vs Walksnail googles. Thanks again for the great presentation, looking forward to more content from you.
@ballinshogunrk
Жыл бұрын
I got my goggles in the first 500. My only gripes are a little rubbing at the nose (thin padding that I'll probably replace) and the fan noise (hopefully will lower fan speeds in next firmware update). Can confirm the 90hz cam really does feel much more locked in than O3 for me. Low light performance is also way better than O3.
@noahpalladino
Жыл бұрын
If fan speed can be adjusted via software I'd like to see a setting for it over a reduced speed. Rarely is noise a concern in hot environments but for bench testing I would appreciate reduced noise
@zikefirefpv5858
Жыл бұрын
You can control the top and side fan speeds individually in the current firmware 😁
@CalleyyyC
Жыл бұрын
I have a large protruding nose bridge and just added a tiny piece of foam at the edge of the faceplate where it rests on my nose. Works great. It was a piece a weather strip and I sliced it to thin it down and stuck it on there
@wearemany73
Жыл бұрын
These Goggles are awesome. Count me in, I’ve been waiting for these to become properly available to order. 😊👍
@ChrisRosser
Жыл бұрын
They are!
@sunol1212
Жыл бұрын
I've had mine for about a week and have been very happy with them.
@baggszilla
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely unreal! What a system! Fastest HD video system in the world! I love the ELRS Backpack for racing! Easy seemless video channel changing! Looks like all my race quads are going HDZero and ELRS baby! Thanks Chris and the HDZero Team! Cheers!
@daisyduck8593
Жыл бұрын
Not only fastest hd but fastest for all ?
@Vousie
Жыл бұрын
Correction: Not *all* of the software on the goggles is open-source. The HDZero "app" is open-source (i.e. all the code that HDZero did themselves for the goggles), and that is what's on HDZero's github, but that app runs on a Linux fork of some kind, which the manufacturer (of the SOC it runs on) hasn't fully released (and is accused of GPL violations because of this)...
@johndextersantos9541
Жыл бұрын
If this is running linux, it would be nice if we can open a terminal and connect a bluetooth keyboard. That would be a great computer where you can run some command line applications :)
@BoilerFPV
Жыл бұрын
Great review! Best I’ve seen by far. And thanks for the advice to order ASAP. I can’t wait to get my hands on the goggles for both digital and analog use.
@BoilerFPV
Жыл бұрын
IMPORTANT - I got an email from a scammer saying I was "shortlisted" to win Chris' give away and asking for response via Telegram. BEWARE! Do not respond to this joker. Chris will never use this approach for contacting winners.
@dronepilot260rc
Жыл бұрын
Hey you just won something on Painless 360 lol
@ChrisRosser
Жыл бұрын
Correct. This is a common KZitem scam.
@BoilerFPV
Жыл бұрын
@@dronepilot260rc Yep. That one’s legit. 😁
@MCsCreations
Жыл бұрын
Fantastic review, Chris! Thanks a bunch! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@STEDDiEFPV
Жыл бұрын
This is very unlike you, maybe you didn’t know maybe you did but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt because I consider you to be one of the few honest reviewers in the hobby. The googles are not in stock like you make then sound to be here. They’re on pre-order, so saying “he’s not going to be able to keep them in stock at that price, they will sell out” is a complete lie. I went and purchased them thinking they were in stock because of what you said here, it’s likely I won’t get them until at least mid March.
@ChrisRosser
Жыл бұрын
It wasn't a lie. They were in stock (same or next day shipping) when I released the video 5 days ago. Now the first batch has clearly sold out! I knew they would be popular. I'm really sorry you didn't manage to score one of the first batch. At least you got the wholesale price though. I'll remove the front of the video as it's not needed any more. Thanks for commenting and letting me know so I can fix it. 👍
@taggerung890
Жыл бұрын
since these have a headtracker - can I use this with steam vr?
@deice3
Жыл бұрын
I'm curious how much latency do you give up, if you run at 1080p30? Having analog levels of latency at SD quality is nice for racers, but I'm interested how far behind something like DJI is on latency, when using HD quality video feed.
@DoctorrMetal
Жыл бұрын
with Nano 90 you cant run that res only 4:3 aka 960x720p60 , 720x540p60 or720x540p90
@martr
Жыл бұрын
I dont think there is another goggle which provides -6 to +6 focus adjustment. Although Skyzone04 claims this in their specs, they have now said it is actually -6 to +2. The HDZero feature seems to be a significant differentiator. Really nicely structured review.
@edrone_
Жыл бұрын
Awesome review Chris 👏 I am really impressed with these goggles the build quality surpassed my expectations and the experience in the goggles has been so comfortable and the screens are very crisp and clear truly a great upgrade for HDZero! 🤟👍
@aerialimagery3216
Жыл бұрын
Can you test DJI 03 latency with the V2 goggles at 120 fps? I heard it was around 28 ms and your showing it at 40 ms.
@JDDupuy
Жыл бұрын
We were told a few weeks ago shipping would start on 23 Jan 2023. From their website today, "Expected to start shipping in mid-March". You Tube folks need to stop putting out incorrect information. Add the 3 to 8 week shipping time on top of that. Nonsense. Money left my account 10 minutes after order.
@headfog7621
Жыл бұрын
1080p30, 720p60, 540p90, and 540p60 I cant see calling it 1080p 90hz to be honest when you have to drop it down to 540p to get 90hz.
@zikefirefpv5858
Жыл бұрын
The panels themselves are in fact 1080p 90hz. While you can only get those two traits separately running HDZero, you can take full advantage of the display via HDMI in from a Walksnail module at 100hz or Velocidrone. The way I see it the 1080p 90hz panels just make the goggles more versatile.
@headfog7621
Жыл бұрын
@@zikefirefpv5858 the way you say it is more truthful and less misleading ...thank you.
@headfog7621
Жыл бұрын
@@zikefirefpv5858 Are you sure the HDMI does 90hz
@zikefirefpv5858
Жыл бұрын
@@headfog7621The hdmi in is 1.4b, which can do up to 1080p 120hz. So physically it can do it, but the firmware is still early so features like 1080p 100hz are still in the beta firmware right now.
@ChrisRosser
Жыл бұрын
Yes, sorry if I wasn't clear that the panels are 1080p 90Hz. And you can have 1080p or 90Hz but not at the same time with HDzero!
@scottsrcshop
Жыл бұрын
Can you help me get my hdzero freestyle vtx working? It’s for an rc car project. I am happy to leave super chat $ for any help. Trying to set up hdzero freestyle powered by standalone lipo. Then I will rx and Tx rc car normally. I am trying to pick up the signal with the hdzero transporter 2 hd. Please help 🍻
@PowderMill
5 ай бұрын
Phenomenal goggles for HDMI input use! We use for a small town volunteer fire department and for all sorts of public safety use. Combined with the DJI “Camera Drones” like the Mavic-3 Series, using the HDMI output of the DJI RC-Pro or RC-Plus (Plus model mod’d for use with Mavic-3), it is ideal for the drone operator or assistant, subject matter expert - especially in HazMat incidents, incident commander, etc. It’s so much easier to view things in full detail using goggles vs. a conventional display in many instances. Especially in bright sunlight.. The owner of HD-Zero, Carl, is a very nice and very knowledgeable gentleman. The support is absolutely fantastic and appreciated. Probably the best company out there in the UAS world. The only issue we encountered was that we were having some minor “stuttering”, which I’ve heard was fixed in firmware many months ago… we just haven’t bothered updating the goggles. I guess that shows the “stuttering” really isn’t too bothersome after all. LOL
@CgitEinsteins
Жыл бұрын
😍👍
@Labonj
Жыл бұрын
Splendid, will we be seeing a 'best antennae for HD Zere goggles' video in the near future?
@Labonj
Жыл бұрын
HD Zere, what even is that. *HD ZERO
@pacificnorthwestpilots6050
Жыл бұрын
The 720p looks far less 'muddy' than the 540p, but the added fps might close that gap when in flight. Also. I am excited for your new testing...as always, lol!
@petrmaliarov6441
Жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, thank you for your content! Does hdzero goggles + walksnail VRX provide the same latency as walksnail/fatshark goggles?
@marcino.3361
Жыл бұрын
I was really looking for this review !!! Thanks Chris! I'm really looking for your tests of WS/Caddx RX with these google. Latency, picture quality etc... Also I can't wait to see 1080p DVR from that googles. Looks like this may be the perfect choose.
@marcback1
Жыл бұрын
I CAN SEE dogs in 720p but not in 540p. 720p is definitly the way to go !! :) Thanks for your video
@XtianApi
Жыл бұрын
Apparently, 4 match stubbys oddly work better than any patches. Give it a shot Are the additional links to the image comparisons not linked in the description?
@VincentFischer
Жыл бұрын
Very tempting product but I can't justify buying one of these until we know how the walksnail modules turn out for this
@elxero2189
Жыл бұрын
The es vrx works fully on the goggle now running at all 100hz low latency mode
@hoagietime1
Жыл бұрын
One week everyone is talking about DJI osd!, next walksnail VRX!, then DJI 03 air unit!, now hd zero!!! What would Orca have to deliver in an HD link to make anyone care?
@ChrisRosser
Жыл бұрын
At this point they have their work cut out for them!
@ballinshogunrk
Жыл бұрын
Hey Chris, Do you have a recommendation for mounting the new runcam nano 90 in your AOS 3.5 O3 frame? I'm going to move my o3 system over to my 7" and use HD-Zero on the 3.5. I'm thinking 3d print TPU and ditch the carbon o3 mount but curious what your thoughts would be? Have you seen a good 3D print yet? Looks like not much on thingiverse yet for the nano 90
@ChrisRosser
Жыл бұрын
I would print an adaptor from 14-20mm (just two 3mm blocks with holes) and use the carbon plates for the extra protection.
@ze2004
Жыл бұрын
the googles come already with a built in analog module or not?
@LukeRT
Жыл бұрын
Hey are you able to send me a pair of hdzero goggles 😊
@ColinCrosbie
Жыл бұрын
Great Video, I wonder what the IPD is it says adjustable but that's pretty vague ( I have a very narrow IPD)
@ChrisRosser
Жыл бұрын
It's in the video (I overlayed it as text though) 57-70mm
@ColinCrosbie
Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRosser Thanks I missed that . I'm using Orqa's with 56 IPD hmm.
@wolframzirngibl1147
Жыл бұрын
Concerning MP4 vs TS recording. I think TS will give you an advantage in one case only. TS only gives you an advantage, if the goggle battery connection falls off. That's it. Not so in a crash situation. The goggle itself will finish the recording for retrieving a last probable position since the goggle itself is not affected by the crash. Well, this has to be proven but I am quite sure about it.
@BMWS14turbo
Жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, great Video like all of yours, thank you for this! will there be a video about the latency of the HD-Zero googles in combination with the Walksnail VRX?
@frankyfrench5279
Жыл бұрын
Jitteror differences in latency on the video link is potentially even more important than latencyitself. as a constant latency can be anticipated for by the brain and completely removed. At 22.45 the Jitter in video link or difference in latency is the lowest on the Walksnail 720p. Basically offers the most consistent anticipation and should potentially be even better for racing ?
@z2kk
Жыл бұрын
Any one know if the ELRS backpack works with analog adaptor? If so, does it depend on which analog module as well?
@wavesummit
Жыл бұрын
Just got mine, I have a triangle nose, I can feel the goggles touch tend of my nose, my hd02's don't do that. The faceplate being stiff is an understatement, it took me a couple minutes to get it to snap on.
@baggszilla
Жыл бұрын
The faceplate is really hard to snap in. So I installed my patch antennas on the front then taking a closer look the faceplate was not snaped in all the way from the factory. I'll have to try when I get home from work and not squeeze my patches so hard in the process.
@marlin-fpv
Жыл бұрын
Is the backpack working already?
@ChrisRosser
Жыл бұрын
Yes I think so. I haven't personally tested yet.
@STOVLFPV2023
Жыл бұрын
I was on the fence, but you sold me...Order placed today since it is a great price
@jasonleesuffolk
Ай бұрын
What specs do the hdzero goggles record in?
@ChrisRosser
Ай бұрын
The same as the camera I think so 1080p30, 720p60, and 540p90 depending on the video setting.
@nullx8
Жыл бұрын
hold the phone. according to the thumbnail this system breaks known physics and relativity, that's kind of an accomplishment (curius what einstein has to say about that) ;)
@ChrisRosser
Жыл бұрын
It does sound like it! The trick is 90fps vs 60fps of Analog. That way you can get the full frame done faster!
@gadgetrc94
Жыл бұрын
Can we not buy the analog add-on yet?
@ironlionfpv
Жыл бұрын
Yes you can get the v1 adapter without wifi, there still working on the software for the v2
@gmivisualsjason3729
Жыл бұрын
Bought mine...
@3DKreateFPV
Жыл бұрын
Hey could anyone tell me the length of the aos 3.5 v2 frame standoffs? I am planning a custom build and knowing that dimension would really help with choosing components.
@ChrisRosser
Жыл бұрын
20mm it's a semi slammed design. 25mm AIO recommended.
@Gomufas
Жыл бұрын
I saw a recomendation to always have the switch off before plugging if you are using 6S batteries, dont really know if its needed but seemed to be recomended by divimath. so it may be a good idea to be careful with the recomendation at 4:35
@ChrisRosser
Жыл бұрын
That's a good point. I haven't had a problem personally but to be honest all goggles seem to struggle on 6S so maybe just use 4S to be safe.
@k4x4map46
Жыл бұрын
nice!!
@allroads2454
Жыл бұрын
Sold me. Still running analog but see this as something to grow into… love the versatility and the elrs back pack feature
@gingerflow5594
Жыл бұрын
its even the best analog goggle there is , has a special compression protocol called anti aliasing that no one else has
@gabyguay6990
Жыл бұрын
Great review!
@ghettogardens1
Жыл бұрын
Kool!
@PuuTV
Жыл бұрын
In my opinion misleading information. You excplicitly mention to buy the goggles before and then, only 24 minutes in you mention that you earn a commission. There is no way that your opinion is unbiased if you earn off the sales and that should be mentioned before sending everyone off to buy buy buy now, don't think, buy now. Disgusting
@ChrisRosser
Жыл бұрын
The people who use the link don't pay any more and help support the creation of this free content for everyone to watch and enjoy. They are positively contributing to independent reviews and content that benefits everyone. I won't recommend a bad product. Its not good for me or the community.
@aLurchi3
Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRosser Overall, I like your approach but while I do not agree with the aggressive tone of the comment, I think he has a point. You are a well-known authority in FPV by now and do bear a certain responsibility with these kinds of things. Simply saying to buy them or not falls short of that responsibility. I'm not criticizing the use of affiliate links in principle, but there needs to be no doubt about potential conflicts of interest, especially if the review is pretty much 100% positive, including a prefaced call to not lose time and buy them ASAP.
@elxero2189
Жыл бұрын
I think you're misrepresenting the guy here. He did not tell anyone to go buy buy buy what he said was "IF YOU KNOW THAT YOU WANT IT" stop watching now and go take advantage of the preorder because the product is heavily discounted and stocks will not last. Nothing "disgusting" in that at all. The fact in the product is super fresh on the market and there are manufacturing and shipping challenges out of china right now because of Rona. He gave good advice. And besides every single reviewer is taking commission off these affiliate links even friggin bot grinder is at this point. Chillax dude
@rc-fannl7364
Жыл бұрын
@@aLurchi3 The problem lies mostly with the sellers. I used to review FPV stuff years ago, and never had to use any affiliate links, so it was easier for a reviewer to show his/her comments were totally unbiased, since you clearly didn't benefit if you praised the product. But then companies started pushing their affiliate link systems, because they want to see which reviewers generate the most sales, and if you don't comply, you simply don't get any new things to review.
@MADFlyFpv
Жыл бұрын
Well, Chris hasn't a gun pointing at our heads... thanks for the review Chris¡¡¡
@imothy
Жыл бұрын
a couple things that kill me on the HDzero option versus what is out there now. 1. Cost, significantly cost more than walksnail to start out. 2. breakup, they need to figure out how to blend the breakup pixels the way WS/DJI does, honestly after flying analog for so long the HDZERO breakup reminds me of analog breakup way too much and if i'm going to invest $$$ in the system i'd rather not be reminded of analog breakup ever again! 3. walksnail and DJI have onboard uncompressed DVR, which give me everything I'm looking for as far as analog cameras go, and I can finally retire my analog / HD split cams, like the turtle's and runcam split 3 will be a thing of the past! I think walksnail is going to be the winner for me and many other people.
@ironlionfpv
Жыл бұрын
I rather have breakup and fixed low latency than variable latency,pixel smear and dropped frames.
@ironlionfpv
Жыл бұрын
You can add ws vrx
@imothy
Жыл бұрын
@@ironlionfpv I'd rather have pixel smear and dropped frames before breakup.
@ironlionfpv
Жыл бұрын
@Mothy than this system is not for you, and it never will be 😉
@imothy
Жыл бұрын
@@ironlionfpv until they fix those issues. I still like HDZERO in theory.
@MysteryD
Жыл бұрын
You aren't describing latency from vtx to camera and then to goggles. You're only describing latency between frames displayed, which is 100% pointless.
@ChrisRosser
Жыл бұрын
The test method measures glass to glass latency from camera to goggles. Both single pixel (pipeline) and full frame. Frame rate only affects full frame latency.
@MysteryD
Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRosser No, no it does not. Not only do you not go into the "methodology", you only actually show quite literally a bare minimum measure of the frames AT the goggle. You aren't fooling me, bro. Go get them sales tho.
@anthonyfpvminiquad1728
Жыл бұрын
What? He and others are measuring glass to glass. Also regardless what you feel he is measuring, his method is the same for every goggle, and setup, so the differences are still valid differences.
@BogHopperFPV
Жыл бұрын
@@MysteryD Chris is one of the most scientific testers - go research his methods in his previous videos and then come back and amend your post
@JoshuaBardwell
Жыл бұрын
Mystery D, no offense, but you're wrong. He's measuring glass-to-glass latency. He's not measuring latency between frames. He's described his methodology in previous videos.
@MysteryD
Жыл бұрын
Oh, hey. You also forgot that you need to explicitly state that links you provide are affiliate links and earn you money.
@WKfpv
Жыл бұрын
25:26
@KaminKevCrew
Жыл бұрын
Oh, hey. Watch to the end of the video.
@MysteryD
Жыл бұрын
@@KaminKevCrew I can barely take 4 minutes, let alone however long this was
@noahpalladino
Жыл бұрын
@@MysteryD Good piece of advice is to grab "enhancer for youtube" from your browser extension store. Allows you to speed up the video using your mousewheel which helps greatly with video viewing nihilism.
@KaminKevCrew
Жыл бұрын
@@MysteryD then why even comment? You're trying to call someone out for not doing something they're legally required to do, except they did fulfill their legal obligations. Evidently you are able to take enough time to both write your initial comment and reply to me. If you're not going to watch the whole video to make sure you're right, why even comment in the first place?
@Clickmaster5k
Жыл бұрын
How are the goggle compatible with 100fps walksnail stuff with only 90hz displays? Are they dropping frames at 100fps?
@NATGEOANDSTUFFPaulbrannan
Жыл бұрын
Was looking at a set of these.i teach children here in UK fpv and been donated lots of box goggles amongst other items from friends gal kremmer.syncfpv.lee scofield and numerous companys.but would love to give them an experience of hd.gonna have to rase some funds.looks great
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