I'll bet the guy that did that shower still does it the same way, and goes around saying "I've been doing this for years..."
@Ballisticgene
5 жыл бұрын
Guess it depends if they were taught that way and think it correct all this time. Or if they knowingly do that because it’s easier/cheaper. But even as a common person, seems logical of the mistakes
@lazydadsgarage
5 жыл бұрын
Maybe it was a low bidder. Maybe it was a diy
@paulgreene9997
5 жыл бұрын
@@lazydadsgarage Bet it was a homeowner that watched a couple of KZitem videos and went "hey, I can do that - how hard can it be?" :-)
@MasterChief-sl9ro
5 жыл бұрын
I fixed more of this shit. And I find it's them Illegal Mexican Bob that does it. I would not buy a house unless I knew it was a professional carpenter. That built it. As electrical can kill your ass or burn you home down with you in it!
@richhoffman5255
5 жыл бұрын
Not just years but many probably 50 plus lol
@justinbennett9998
4 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate you putting these videos out. I'm here in Florida doing my own general contracting company. I've done tile before while working FOR other people but now that I own my own company the information you're providing is beyond valuable. In the three days since I've found your videos I've made over 4k dollars and I know all my jobs were done right. Thank you again.
@paulmartinez6544
5 жыл бұрын
Great video! It seems that customers are so ill informed about waterproofing etc. It's not there fault though. Most people are just excited to see the finished product (which they spent countless hours selecting). Most aren't too concerned with the whole explanation and the importance of the prep work involved. Some homebuilders think the same way too. I usually get the "sounds expensive " look when I'm trying to explain the process. Then I lose the job to the guy who probably did this shower in 3 days for 800.00. Hope videos like yours help educate homeowners.
@JohnSmith-fh1rx
3 жыл бұрын
Keep teaching and we will keep learning. Love you professional ethics.
@iamcanadian7559
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I live in Canada and am a tile installer working with my son. I am learning from you to help take our game to another level. Thank you for taking the time to share all this great advise.
@caseywilson4736
3 жыл бұрын
This video right here is what prompted my husband to email you yesterday. As time on our permit and money has run out, we have halted any further work on our bathroom until we can find out if anything in it is salvageable. Wish we would have found this video a few weeks ago.
@user-wq6hr9xi2n
5 жыл бұрын
Dude I would wear a mask for this sort of stuff. Long term breathing in of all that dust/powder can cause serious lung problems (eg lung cancer). Check out the national health and safety organisation. The one here in the UK gives good advice. Nice vid!
@eriktarasyuk1552
5 жыл бұрын
Video would be muffled probably.
@leeboriack8054
Жыл бұрын
The beauty of these videos is that I know how to ask questions in order to qualify a good installer. Also, which products or designs are potentially a failure.
@Toler222
5 жыл бұрын
I’m a termite inspector in the Bay Area. I’m always leak testing and finding leaking shower pans! Lots of fungus damage. Really enjoy you’re content bro!
@dijondastardly
5 жыл бұрын
You test for leaks as a termite inspector?
@ekginseng
5 жыл бұрын
Dijon dont termites love soft rotten wood?
@dijondastardly
5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I just find it odd. I've never seen a termite inspector do leak testing. Unless he's not with a normal pest control company.
@chriscall3425
5 жыл бұрын
I don't even do tile and I get caught up watching these,, it's like the CSI of water damage.
@qweenzgrimyest
3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 I'm there with you
@jeffostroff
5 жыл бұрын
Isaac, you had a major pop on this video, but much more so with your video last week. Holy cow.
@franklinidrovo1353
3 жыл бұрын
All your videos are very helpful and interesting. I work in the construction area doing hard wood flooring for 14 years in New York Long Island . I watch your videos for fun keep doing them you are teaching a lot
@THEWRONGDOG
5 жыл бұрын
Loving these videos but I’m always sad when they end. I really want to see the completed project or the process behind finishing the project.
@nunyabizniz7619
5 жыл бұрын
Esteban Marquez I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT THIS GUY NEVER REALY SHOWS THE END RESULT OR FINISHED PROJECT 👍
@eugeniustheodidactus8890
5 жыл бұрын
*Thank you for these "forensic" videos.* Very worthwhile for this DIYer.
@jfarinacci0329
4 жыл бұрын
Good work Aaron and Isaac. Thank you.
@skippysvr4586
3 жыл бұрын
KZitem just keep sending me all the tile failure videos. Ultimately reassuring my decision to go with a one piece fibreglass insert. 15 years later looks brand new. This guy is super professional and knowledgeable. Too bad he keeps getting screwed by bad drains and failing products. Never ending uphill battle.
@robertcaldwell2512
5 жыл бұрын
You have a wealth of knowledge. I don't think you know how many people you have and will help. I've stayed away from shower tile for the most part because of the whole being "water tight" issue. You can't just keep adding layers and putting a screw through it expecting it to seal?....😂Thank you for the videos!
@kjsouthall252
4 жыл бұрын
Great video, it's like you are doing detective and forensic work for the audience, it really helps us viewers understand the sort of pathologies that can result from faulty installations. It's real educational, thank you for putting it out there.
@tiarasutton186
5 жыл бұрын
Here in western Oklahoma, we own and operate a plumbing and flooring business, and I would say, that a large majority of tile installers dont even know that a shower pan and specifics are in fact in the plumbing code, a lot of the shower remodles I've done in the last 5 years have been from houses less that 10 yra old and some even newer than that, all due to bad pans and very poor quality. Very sad, for the customers and also that the quality of work in our area goes down with every one needing replaced. So again, thanks for the videos and great job on integrity. Work hard my feiends.
@machina_aeterna
4 жыл бұрын
These fail videos are amazingly educational.
@TheAnnieSisters
Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate these type of videos
@kirkdunivan2184
5 жыл бұрын
I own a Tile, Grout and Stone Restoration business in placer county. I have run into stuff like this quite a bit over the years! My favorite is when they just mastic directly to the drywall!
@kirkdunivan2184
5 жыл бұрын
Isaac Ostrom ok awesome will do! Where is your shop at? Or what’s the name of it and I can search for it
@askthisoldtileman5401
5 жыл бұрын
Wood bench,no no . This why I do a shower every 4 weeks. Everybody thinks they can do a shower. Will it keeps us busy. Good job in explaining what went wrong.🤛
@justinvandergriff3859
5 жыл бұрын
What should the bench framing be made out of?
@askthisoldtileman5401
5 жыл бұрын
Justin Vandergriff should be cement block.fill in with mortar, when its total dry then waterproof with the walls.
@Toobezeee
4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are educational. Thanks
@cynthiamcwhorter6721
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your videos I am getting an education for sure. This was perfect timing because we are under construction on our upstairs bathroom. The bathroom was done in the late 60's and there are leaks. Mon. our contractor is measuring for the shower pan and when it comes in you can bet I'm going to watch and see what is done. This contractor has great referrals and my cousin who is a bathroom designer has seen his shower pans and she swears by him.
@csabi72
5 жыл бұрын
I do this for a living, and you are absolutely correct, I like your videos, keep it up
@mattheizer8054
5 жыл бұрын
Perfect example, of how things can go wrong when an inexperienced installer is at he helm. Like your videos Isaac and look forward to the next one. As a side note, I just took and passed my C54 exam last Monday and I’m looking forward to being in business for myself. I’ve been setting Tile for the 13 Year’s and looking forward to the next 30 plus!
@mattheizer8054
5 жыл бұрын
Hey man I thought of a potential video you could do. I remember the video you did showing how to float a shower. There was a pretty big negative response from the kerdi viewers. I thought maybe just for fun have a competitive race between a kerdi application and a mud application. I’m an old school thought, California Tile setter like you and I’ve always felt I could do a mud shower faster than someone could do a kerdi shower.
@XTheXRizzaX
5 жыл бұрын
I love your videos. Dude keep kicking ass
@VFizz
5 жыл бұрын
Bro, I am not a "pro" but have worked on many bathrooms and worked alongside pros. Your vids showing "what can go wrong" are fantastic! Anytime I have worked on a project, proper waterproofing was always the priority :)
@josephgaviota
Жыл бұрын
VERY educational! Thanks a lot!
@JDoe-hb7pc
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for showing us these videos and taking the time to educate. May God bless you with more for all you do for us and being a good and honest person.
@brickriver9627
4 жыл бұрын
Videos like this can give a home owner at least an idea of what to look for it you get it contracted out. Good info
@tedspens
2 жыл бұрын
A tip about weep holes even if installed properly, hard water deposits will clog them over time. The vinyl pan liners is old technology meant to replace traditional copper and zinc liners, and it fails the test of time. I won't install them anymore. Today's membranes like Kerdi and Hydra Ban are the way to go. Stopping the water 'before' it reaches the mud bed just makes sense.
@woodfern909
4 жыл бұрын
I need to be studying but I’m addicted to these damn videos by Isaac. Informative as heck! Thanks for the uploads.
@shrikeofterven6006
11 ай бұрын
Just cleared out the old latex to recaulk my shower and we have a bench just like that. The top of the bench got wobbly after old caulk was removed. Pulled up easily because water had gotten under it. We have the same set up with a wooden box frame there and now we have to get somebody out to give us quotes on restoring it all correctly OR remodeling the entire shower. We have solid surface panels and not tile. Now I am wondering if we should just go for the whole remodel in case anything else was done wrong by the builder.
@DiamondJo
5 жыл бұрын
Valuable information for homeowners.
@michaeljenkins3665
3 жыл бұрын
Need to really get an answer one something, from TileCoach of anyone knowledgeable. Im doing a reno myself and trusted only the plumbing to a contractor (Bad Decision). He came in, installed the shower pan without a pre-slope. I made him come back and he convinced me I was wrong about needing a preslope. Im just going to say f it and do it myself, because I can't trust any contractors in Michigan. So - my question revolves around the wall board. Do I float my pre-slope BEFORE any cement board (including on the bench seat)? My plan was - Float pre-slope - Install Liner - Float Shower Curb - Float second mortar slope - Install cement board on walls and bench - Waterproof over those - Thinset and Tile AM I MESSING UP THIS ORDER? HOW DO I HANDLE THE GAP IN SPACE BETWEEN THE CEMENT BOARD AND PAN?
@billyfrady3652
5 жыл бұрын
I have learned so much just watching your videos , thank you
@shawndyson2351
Жыл бұрын
certified installer for over 40 yrs schluter certifed for over 20. great content but please with the rust and hair balls in the drain dont say its never been used
@dougjones4987
3 жыл бұрын
I've pulled out my fair share of that drain licorice-YUM !!
@cecillec2331
4 жыл бұрын
Great video to learn from. Thank you very much.
@uneasyMeat
5 жыл бұрын
Great videos. Glad to have so much useful reference material.
@csealand
5 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Great.
@ffsneednamealltaken
5 жыл бұрын
Hello. Any chance of a follow up video giving us confirmation on wether the home owner did or did not use the shower in question ?
@ya472
5 жыл бұрын
I know of people who still use drywall in tiled showers. OMG One homeowner 'know-it-all" bought a house and redid two bathrooms, did a crappy job on tile finishing, until he got feedback from potential buyers, so he redid the tile. It looked better, but still a tear out ! DO NOT USE.
@Peter-.H
5 жыл бұрын
Great video as always Isaac. Can’t wait to see the reconstruction.
@hiscreation8129
5 жыл бұрын
That shower was absolutely doomed from the panliner being cut at the "curbless" entry area! Wow! All the weird folds and screws don't even matter with that liner cut right to the subfloor like that.🤪
@nunyabizniz7619
5 жыл бұрын
they would have been better off red guarding the drywall and puting tile strait to that! some peoples kids !
@justindavis2170
5 жыл бұрын
There are entirely too many runaway helpers out there! Damn shame!!!
@ryszardbargiel7256
5 жыл бұрын
At least the warning signs were visible here. Many bad jobs don't show signs until years later. Tons of people that have been doing their incompetent work for many years. All that experience, all that arrogance, all that money, all that time, all the headaches, all the resources. All a waste. Thanks for the video's. As much as I hate the incompetence and malicious behavior of people, I LOVE to see the results of their "mistakes". Even if I don't really learn anything new, it at least brings awareness and focus to real problems.
@williambilbo224
5 жыл бұрын
Is the clamping ring slotted to allow water to pass? Other wise it’ll just get trapped ? A paintable tanking membrane would water proof that up nicely
@jeremyvaughn9115
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice
@hassanbazzi3545
5 жыл бұрын
Well explained. Thank you 🙏 for the video
@tilerman
5 жыл бұрын
Hi. Having watched so many tiling videos from America it seems they are really big on these 'step in' type showers with liners and tiled floors. Sorry i don't know what you call them! Here in the UK, and im sure you have them in the US, we have plastic/composite shower trays that we tile down onto. If we do want tiled floor we buy preformed trays made from high-density extruded polystyrene from Wedi or Dukkaboard and others. Great systems and foolproof. Ive been fixing for 34 years and TBH i do very few 'wet room' type shower rooms. There just is not the demand for that type work. We construct the walls from stud, shower tray set in adhesive or on legs, 12mm backer board down to tray (small gap) decent flexi powder adhesive, flexi grout, tile, finishing with a mastic bead. Been doing it this way for years and never any problems ever.
@stepbackandthink
5 жыл бұрын
These pan liners seem crazy. You would never see this in the UK.
@nunyabidness5150
Жыл бұрын
Man... some people should never attempt to do tile. Amazes me to see what some of these hacks do.
@valerie5575
5 жыл бұрын
Your videos are a great way for me to understand what questions to ask when interviewing contractors for jobs. I at least will know how NOT to do things.
@andrewfox4206
3 жыл бұрын
just an opinion on sealing the indentation in the underside of the drain flange: I have always relied on a clean connection there, in other words, rubber to plastic. by adding a caulking there we would be relying on the caulking alone, as that caulking ages it will possibly fail leaving a void there. it makes more sense to me that the rubber/liner is directly forming the seal at the flange. I have a lot of pans out there and the same phone number for over 25 years. I enjoy your videos
@loweredexpectations8568
5 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your videos. Thanks a bunch.
@Hutchy45445
5 жыл бұрын
I've been binge watching your videos and I've been learning allot. Great videos and much appreciated! 😁
@kirbyroad5743
4 жыл бұрын
Love how you blame s handyman for every bad shower/tile job. Just finished redoing a Licensed Skilled Contractor" installed shower. Another big mess made by a contractor that only sees dollar signs from the homeowner. I remember seeing several of your vids that you were redoing a shower you messed up. Don't be so quick to point your fingers. I'm not a contractor but a handyman and never had a repeat install on any tile/showers I've ever done. I've made an honest living fixing CONTRACTOR mistakes.
@recyclespinning9839
2 жыл бұрын
Yup, a license doesn't mean skill , nor experience.
@davids6075
5 жыл бұрын
I'm not going to pick apart who ever done that,but dang man
@Fetecheney
5 жыл бұрын
TL;DW the waterproofing was screwed up SUPER bad, and if it had been used regularly water would have gotten into the framing members and caused a HUGE issue. Thanks for the video man 👍 pay attention to water management details folks
@arjuna207
5 жыл бұрын
subscribed. your channel will skyrocket, it's awesome info
@tamarackutube3923
5 жыл бұрын
Thankyou
@jonathancupsie471
4 жыл бұрын
I am doing a shower right now basically the same scenario just not curb less, what is a good ballpark price for demo and rebuild with a bench, and niche just labor. The water from the rusty nails on the curb actually stained the face of the tile.
@harold4506
5 жыл бұрын
Don't bother with wall tiles. Concrete the walls, and finish with a skim coat. Then cover with a clear waterproof resin. Looks great and lasts forever.
@elbuggo
5 жыл бұрын
Get a shower cabin. You don't have all these disasters when you install shower cabins. You will do ok even without waterproofing the floor. Much better, for a fraction of the cost.
@suziebangsthedrums3547
2 жыл бұрын
So if you take that bench out do you have to put in a new subfloor, pan and /or liner?
@EDHBlvd
5 жыл бұрын
How about El Dorado County? Our tile guy put the Schluter system on top of green drywall.
@vhehn
5 жыл бұрын
schluter says you can use their product over drywall.
@tileman30years6
3 жыл бұрын
That is acceptable according to Schluter and the TCNA. If he installed the schluter properly you won't have any problems
@JohnComeOnMan
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, fail videos are great. Keep 'em coming. 😎👍
@johnhender
5 жыл бұрын
that will be a lot of videos there are so many ways to fail in a shower and guys are always finding new ones
@alansmith9412
5 жыл бұрын
in uk we use mostly shower trays which have very few problems if looked after
@acrinsd
5 жыл бұрын
I used moisture resistant drywall in my shower with Schlueter membrane over it, only because the drywall is completely encapsulated by the membrane. When I tile the bathtub, I'll use blacker board only because where the tube and tile meet is not 100% sealed.
@Apexjasonmorganllc
5 жыл бұрын
Promise it's one of those guys that says I've been doing this 20 year's and never had a problem
@FedoraSpunk
3 жыл бұрын
"Yup, I've been fucking houses up for 20 years, son. I know how to do it"
@Will-nb8qk
3 жыл бұрын
Sticking the pan drain down on top of the liner really was the only issue but a serious one!
I’m in sacramento, I would love a quote for tile shower.
@GenXFarmer77
3 жыл бұрын
U make great videos man keep em comin!
@Smoo_D_
5 жыл бұрын
Dam I enjoy having your vids man. 2nd generation tile guy from Hawaii 🤙🏼
@brayanr9240
3 жыл бұрын
Wow, I would had done a few of those things lol The best example of what not to do sometimes
@josephdestaubin7426
4 жыл бұрын
He caulked the weep holes. LOL
@halibut1249
4 жыл бұрын
Do homeowners ever sue the faulty shower installer for water damage and money paid for a job that didn't meet standards and had to be redone?? Are there standards?? Or code?? Your vids help educate the tradespeople but also the homeowners to ask the right questions. Contractors prob hate when homeowners start to second-guess them, unless their skill knowledge is spot on correct. And in that case they should be able to give the owner a warranty of water-proof, leak-proof installation, or they redo the job.
@pcno2832
5 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone put a shower in there anyway, unless there is a seriously handicapped person in the house; it's big enough for a tub, which would never leak the way a shower can. Even if they had to have a shower, why not use a prefabricated tray instead of some home-made tiling disaster? Save the tiles for the rest of the bathroom, where they'll actually do some good.
@002mjr
5 жыл бұрын
As an architect I like to spec out Schluter Systems for showers. It works great.
@steamsteam6607
5 жыл бұрын
Your name suggests shilling as does your convenient advertising.
@JeremyUSA
2 жыл бұрын
who would you recommend to do bathroom remodeling in San Diego?
@reeze7564
4 жыл бұрын
Hello Isaac 7:32 not to seal the flange ( water can reach drain if its under drypack) - cool got it, now let's look at "kerdi" drain setup- there is no way water can go thru ( in between Kerdi liner and plastic drain ring) cuz drain is Not design that way , hmmm old days were better
@brocklee1996
3 жыл бұрын
Hot mopped shower pans and cement floated walls over studs will outlast these cheaper methods exponentially.
@albanlika6995
5 жыл бұрын
I sub contract for a builder and the plumbers always silicone or caulk the outside of the shower drain I always tell them this is installed wrong it's good to see that I am not the only one that points out horrible workmanship
@spikeconley
4 жыл бұрын
Good god! Unbelievable how some guys will build a shower. How do they learn that???
@paulcurtin8589
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for these videos, invaluable!!!;-)
@edcu100
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Tile coach really nice videos I've learned a lot with all your help.. one question I've always been a really fan of MK wet saw's, had a MK 101 the first model (with black motor on it) and never had a problem which got stolen I bought a second MK 101 (with green motor on it) I had use it for one year and a half not a everyday use wet saw and its been two times already since motor pulley broke its frustrating now I'm thinking to switch to a different wet saw brand, would you recommend me a good wet saw??? any suggestions will help Thank you so much!!!!
@TileCoach
4 жыл бұрын
Dewalt is my favorite right now. Not very durable, but light weight and good power. My guys get a new one every few years.
@spacescience100
5 жыл бұрын
How do you know if your contractor is using mastic when they aren't supposed to? Does the bucket say mastic?
@dananderson3877
5 жыл бұрын
Was the other shower in the house done the same way?
@Ballisticgene
5 жыл бұрын
Stumbled on ur channel. I like how u teach people, whether it’s a diyer, homeowner, or another trade person. I do have some constructive criticism. During some transitions, the vid cuts out or picks up randomly. I feel like you were trying to say something, but it drifts off and leaves an viewer guessing. Or the other way, that it picks up and I’m not quite sure if ur explaining something new or the previous cut. Hope this helps. Thanks
@josephmeyers3597
4 жыл бұрын
Question if they never used the shower how did they get water damage
@shawntravelstheworld911
5 жыл бұрын
Thats a bummer.
@PlasteringSWales94
4 жыл бұрын
Hey dude just a quick question what hammer are you using in this video ?? is it a east wing 24oz ??
@iilijah
5 жыл бұрын
Mastic is a wonderful product when used at the right application. But this looks like a home owner special. He didn’t buy a mixer so mastic his way of applying the tile.
@pasquarielloanthony
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. FYI your audio is only in my left ear (homeowner's mic was in my right ear, intro sound was in both).
@pasquarielloanthony
5 жыл бұрын
@@TileCoach lol. just thought i would help you out there.
@digitalcurrents
5 жыл бұрын
Can I screw through a membrane system in a wall if I add silicone around the screw? I'm using a Kerdi membrane but I want to add a shower seat.
@SigmaDG
5 жыл бұрын
I’d probably go with the Kerdi bench and thinset it to the membrane. There is also kerdi fix sealant which is a fluid applied to fill and cover those areas and corners prone to leak.
@justsaygold
5 жыл бұрын
I can't even imagine the kind of poor work you see done in your trade. Expect to get a lot of business in the next few years in west Roseville and the other new neighborhoods being built. All those neighborhoods need carpet stretched or replaced in less than 5 years, I can only imagine what they get away underneath it all...
@paulgreene9997
5 жыл бұрын
When I see videos like this, I always wonder if the people that did the original bad job ever get to see their 'handiwork' being reviewed. :-)
@xetrof8601
5 жыл бұрын
Please wear safety shoes and saftyglasses when needed love the video’s
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