Henley is so protective of The Eagles’ music that he won’t even let The Eagles perform it.
@markclements7767
5 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@codetech5598
5 ай бұрын
Got to maintain the brand image.
@elizabethmiller7291
5 ай бұрын
Integrity went out the window a long time ago. Hope you signed Fil's petition!
@tproudboomer5965
5 ай бұрын
😂You win the internet today!😂
@Aglaja_
5 ай бұрын
😂 - 👍👍👍
@christopherwoycke1959
5 ай бұрын
Live sound engineer here. In short, I agree with everything you have posted. In fact, I'm surprised things lined up as well as they did. Let me explain. First of all, these are audience recordings form two different shows, at two different locations, from two different seats in the venue. On tour, many things are the same, yet at each venue the systems engineer decides how many speaker cabinets are hung and their configuration for that venue. The acoustics of each venue is different. There most likely are front fill speakers, main hangs and for large shows, delay hangs. Skipping past things, there will be slight frequency changes in what the audience hears and even time delay changes from seat to seat. Temperature and humidity will change the vocal output of the performer, the microphone, the output of the PA and how sound travels thru the venue. For myself, I have many recallable scenes for each song on the setlist, yet I will make adjustments night after night. I may also vary the many effects I have for each instrument and vocal from night to night. Back to the beginning: There is no way in hell, that was a live vocal performance. To put it another way: If you had Pavarotti in a vocal booth, in a recording studio and asked him to sing the same song twice, 5 minutes apart.......it would not line up this close.
@RogerJL
5 ай бұрын
An advertising company might replace the music on two videos to show how great the show is... Comparing more recordings would is important.
@David8n
5 ай бұрын
Surely everyone involved with the show would know that it was happening? Could they keep it a secret?
@NurseKathi
5 ай бұрын
And now I've had an awesome lesson from a live sound engineer master class instructor! Seriously grateful thank you. Attended many large concerts in the late 60s-70s, think it was different back then. Saw Paul McCartney May 2022 outdoors in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, and the sound was perfect. Heard afternoon sound check from parking lot. Memory of 20,000 fans singing along brings tears. You are the unsung hero - no pun intended but still funny. Thanks to Fil, too.
@christopherwoycke1959
5 ай бұрын
@@David8n Playback of some sorts during a live show is almost an industry standard these days. The only people (besides the band) that would know exactly what is going-on would be the house and monitor engineers and they are hired by the band for the tour. Unless you want to commit career suicide, you never discuss the exact details with anyone else.
@chuckschillingvideos
5 ай бұрын
@@David8n Joe Walsh was probably firing up a bowl, distracting everyone.
@universalassociates6857
6 ай бұрын
Fil is like Lieutenent Colombo investigating the music industry. They can’t get away with it.
@Vinnie-cv5qv
6 ай бұрын
all that is missing is the old trench coat
@universalassociates6857
6 ай бұрын
@@Vinnie-cv5qv and one eye😉
@blackswanstudios6632
6 ай бұрын
I'm glad he has a platform to get the word out there. I've been making this exact claim since 2008, where Don Henley would lip sync the bridge to "Waiting In The Weeds" (100 % mathematically perfect AND 100 % identical performance every single time but only of the bridge of the song, which was by far the most challenging part of the tune vocally.). They played the song to a click and would would simply play a lead vocal track when that tough bridge came in. So they've been mixing "real vocals" with "faked vocals" since 2008.
@ericanderson9706
6 ай бұрын
@@universalassociates6857And one nasty cheap cigar!
@bobjohnson1587
6 ай бұрын
Columbo. 🙂
@grahameosheadrums
2 ай бұрын
This video is 3 months old??? This might be the longest lasting Eagles video on the internet (other than the band themselves). Congrats!!!
@Monaco-de1mh
Ай бұрын
@@grahameosheadrums It’s not an Eagles video, it’s an anti-Eagles video! Rock!
@ginnyvogel7754
6 ай бұрын
Fil is a guy who speaks the truth without ill will or belittlement. Thank you, Fil, for presenting the facts in this dignified way.
@morbidmanmusic
6 ай бұрын
it is just harder to spot!~
@-dugair
5 ай бұрын
It could've been presented as informatively and with the same degree of accuracy in the space of 10 minutes. He recognizes that he's repeating himself throughout the video I think it's because he's NOT out to GET anyone. And subconsciously he's still coming to grips with what he's uncovered. We have a gray area where science and art (music) overlap. Do you choose between being a musician or a technician or can you be both? Where do you draw the line? Is 70% technique and 30% technology still music? Are you a composer or a programmer? Does there have to be a line? When Rap started to happen 40 whatever years ago, I would say to people "Music has all been done." Historically music started with rhythm... Drumming and Chanting. Over time people invented instruments and became technically proficient. On whatever was invented. Jazz came along around the same time as electricity with crazy time signatures and people trying to fill in all the gaps with more sounds. Different styles cross-pollinated and fused together★thanks to electricity the world was changing fast. ★Then somebody thought we could hear it better if we use some of this electricity technology.★And It Was Loud!★It Rocked & It Rolled!Music progressed to get technically more complex... & Louder! This Progressive Fusion of Styles this Wall of Sound started chasing its own tail till its head was up its own ass & became a Punk. Music had come full circle and we were back at the beginning like the Cavemen... ★Drumming & Chanting plus primitive Tech became =RAP= Like the whole history of Music ran its course and started over again. Singing was like the last element of music to be faked by technology. But that went out with Auto-Tune & harmonizers. If you could go back & tell the 16 year old me that everybody would be carrying around a multi track recording studio with instant worldwide. access to most of the media created in the last century... I would ask what you were smoking. Oh and if you told me Eagles were still out on the road at $250 a tik. mimeing Desperado to geriatric ex-hippies drinking craft beer & shouting Boogie! I would say "Suckers!" & ask.. "Are any of Emerson Lake & Palmer still playing? And I would want to know if Golden Earring lasted longer than the Stones... Cheers! Wow... I got kind of carried away there... I should delete this.
@CBrolley
5 ай бұрын
@@-dugairNonsense, don’t delete it. In fact I’m looking forward to your SECOND novel.
@h.calvert3165
4 ай бұрын
I'm so impressed by how respectful he is, as well as obviously knowledgeable. I can't understand half of what he says, because I'm not musically trained. Nevertheless, I think he's wonderful. He seems to have such a real feel for the artists, for what they must experience in order to be what they are. And he's kind. He obviously just loves the art! 🎶
@mcfcguvnors
4 ай бұрын
@@-dugair Thats called google adsense & spacing the video gets more ads in . Lets come back when "Fil" is in his 60s see if hes as clean as Van Halen or can freddie mercury a vocal .
@beatlebrian4404
5 ай бұрын
And to think people criticize McCartneys voice but give the man great credit for not miming, or using auto tune
@josephmango4628
5 ай бұрын
Right, it's crazy. Most artists don't perform live today. The Beatles wouldn't even allow a single to be put on an album because they thought they were cheating their fans. Nobody would do that today.
@beatlebrian4404
5 ай бұрын
@@josephmango4628 I think you may be mistaken, certainly there were no singles from Sergeant peppers, but we had Love me Do, Please Please Me, A Hard Days Night, Help, Eleanor Rigby and others, iam talking about the UK
@markclark7885
5 ай бұрын
Agree with your McCartney sentiment, have seen him live a couple of times most recently a few years ago and yes his voice at nearly 80 wasn’t what it was at 30 but it was HIS voice! tickets weren’t cheap but he earned it with his kick ass band and 3+ hour show on a hot summer night.. also I think the other commenter was talking about US single releases
@robertpowell1834
5 ай бұрын
Amen!
@beatlebrian4404
5 ай бұрын
@@markclark7885 didn't the Beatles release A Hard Days Night, Help, Yesterday, (not a single in the UK) and others which were on LP's (Albums) in the USA?
@garanceadrosehn9691
6 ай бұрын
This might explain why the Eagles are so hostile about anyone who posts their songs to social networking sites.
@annmarie3573
5 ай бұрын
That's just because Henley is a miserly grouch.
@davidrice3337
5 ай бұрын
Here in Louisville there was a hard rock festival - limp Biscut or something like that has a singer named Fred - ole Fred got all out of shape over a couple of fans taking video - turns out dude was lip syncing!! Rock Star my ass
@marciebulsaraorcutt
5 ай бұрын
@@davidrice3337 🤯
@bobhowe4476
5 ай бұрын
@garanceadrosehn9691 That is such a good explanation. I would only add that Rick Beato doing a review, has to hire musicians to play the Eagles’ songs otherwise his channel would get a copyright strike.
@beeemm2578
5 ай бұрын
This
@thedevilizer6669
4 ай бұрын
Been performing live for the last 20 odd years as a lead singer and I can tell you this man in the video is 100% correct....
@jmp01a24
2 ай бұрын
Man in the video? Nooo, you meant "man in the mirror" by Elvis Costello, right. You know the black UK artist that wrote Thriller.
@thedevilizer6669
2 ай бұрын
@@jmp01a24 🤣🤣🤣
@stoveboltlvr3798
2 ай бұрын
It's the same odds as lightning striking the same tree, in the same spot, with the same intensity on 2 different occasions.
@jmp01a24
2 ай бұрын
@@stoveboltlvr3798
@patrickr979
Ай бұрын
@@jmp01a24non moi je ne connais pas c'est qui ?
@maartenkos98
5 ай бұрын
People should know, especially with the outrageous prices you pay for Eagles tickets.
@zuzuspetals9281
5 ай бұрын
The pricing exactly! So many people can’t go to live events because tickets are over $150, then to find out they’re not even singing live? Get out.
@andrewfuller9156
5 ай бұрын
I love their music, and don't have to worry about affording a ticket. But this is disgusting.
@portcullis5622
5 ай бұрын
The phrase "obtaining money under false pretences" springs to mind.
@tolja111
5 ай бұрын
Should Steely Dan do the same? Would be disappointed in Donald Fagen. They are in the same gig together, coming to The Netherland for cheapest tickets 160 euro.
@jefffinkbonner9551
5 ай бұрын
Outrageous prices for half the band. Glen Frey is dead and they fired their best guitarist Don Felder.
@leeanderson7339
5 ай бұрын
Lip-syncing at concerts is nothing but total contempt for their audience/fans who paid PREMIUM prices for a live performance!
@bluetroop1
5 ай бұрын
It's a ripoff. People don't pay money to see an airband.
@nathalieleroch6658
5 ай бұрын
I feel that it is artistic fraud.
@Ron898
4 ай бұрын
adding in a track to enhance background vocals or other affects is one thing, completely lip syncing is another.
@denisegore1884
4 ай бұрын
I looked at the ticket prices for Manchester next month and am shocked.
@Maxx1066
4 ай бұрын
The only other sickening thing empty front row seats the privileged bought but couldn't be arsed turning up
@1355Anthony
5 ай бұрын
48 hrs and still up. You’ve officially made it farther than all of us thought.
@JimLovesGolf
5 ай бұрын
No surprise really. People pay to see the Eagles to hear and experience what they expect, not reality. I went to see Gordon Lightfoot a few months before he died, and to his credit, he actually sang the songs with his aged and cracking voice, but it greatly disappointed my wife, who was so attached to his powerful voice of the 70’s. It broke her heart and she left very sad. It’s a tough call for an artist to satisfy their audience’s expectation or to show they have lost the ability to sing. For me it was an opportunity to show my appreciation for what Gordon had given me over a lifetime of creation.
@AndyMakesPlaylists
5 ай бұрын
Fil has the Meagles Vaneagles dead to rights. So they can't sue on the merits. Venley Manenley also can't sue over the use of the song because Fil uses a section that's less than two seconds long, which is legally fair use.
@scottmattern3437
5 ай бұрын
And Motley Crue
@crapple009
5 ай бұрын
@@John-k6f9k "Holy Vince Neils, Batman!!"
@HolidayInGuantanamo
5 ай бұрын
@@JimLovesGolfI felt the same way when we saw Simon and Garfunkel a few yrs ago. Hearing Art just sounding so creaky and wavering on Bridge Over Troubled Water, like a wounded bird, was kinda heartbreaking. I wasnt expecting peak glory in his vocals, but in my mind I probably expected too much.
@GuidoStonglio
3 ай бұрын
When seeing a live performance I never expect or want it to sound like a record or tape. If I wanted that I would stay home and listen to the album.
@NJDEVILz86
Ай бұрын
Very few bands sound like their studio efforts skynyrd,Floyd in the day few others... the who was known for dubbing in audio
@mickeysm64
Ай бұрын
If I go to a concert I want the songs to sound exactly like the album.
@GuidoStonglio
Ай бұрын
There were only 2 exceptions . 1977 Yes and 78 Styx. Both were very impressive performances.
@tutortle1820
Ай бұрын
Prime Eagles used to do that in 70s
@mooodeuce
Ай бұрын
@mickeysm64 🤡
@yellowduck8061
5 ай бұрын
Fascinating. The fact the Eagles haven't challenged this yet tells me they can't prove Fil's findings false. Wowzers 😮
@seankm6nfo990
5 ай бұрын
You mean, The Eagle.😂
@gregsolomon
5 ай бұрын
There's Nothing For Them To Challenge, Because What Fil States Is 100% Factually Proven With Pitch Monitoring Software.
@martymartin2894
5 ай бұрын
Good point.
@craigtalbott731
5 ай бұрын
The Lone (Loan?) Eagle.
@nigelduckworth4419
3 ай бұрын
Not sure how it would be challengeable given that it's a opinion with which people can differ.
@WhiteBubblySoup
5 ай бұрын
The Eagles lawyers shutting this video down in 3,2,1....
@exitthelemming145
5 ай бұрын
Just wish Eagles fans who went to these shows would take out a class action and sue that little money grabbing runt Don Henley for all he's got (and that's plenty....) That said, the opposite has been true for decades i.e. many bands, especially EDM, sing live vocals against prerecorded backing tracks.
@zipperpillow
5 ай бұрын
@@exitthelemming145 It's sad, really, and ironic. Lack of confidence and courage in a genre of music rooted in rebellion and the celebration of individualistic expression. "When Hell freezes over" should have been more honestly titled, "Pension Plan". Going through the motions as ossified cyborgs enslaved as their own "tribute band", shamelessly miming the rust of rock-n-roll. The tour should have been called, "Polly wants a cracker".
@basking_in_it
5 ай бұрын
Don Henley is such an arrogant arse and to see that he's most likely miming his vocals is hysterical. Just wow. I love that he's been put in his place.
@nicholassmith479
5 ай бұрын
@@basking_in_it He’s over 70, right? Exactly how do we expect his vocal range could be at this point?
@DavidEidelberg
5 ай бұрын
@@nicholassmith479 if you can’t sing live, don’t charge high dollar for tickets and just stay home. Stop fleecing fans.
@RoughRanchHands
6 ай бұрын
I think the real tragedy here is that even the mimed vocal has been pitch corrected. I can see the legal disclaimer on the tickets now “portions of this experience have been previously recorded and what you are actually paying for is a live interview with the band as we listen to records from a time when they were younger and could still hit the notes of the song they wrote. Please enjoy responsibly!”
@Ishbilli
6 ай бұрын
Ouch! That's ruff, but so true😔
@MarcByrne
6 ай бұрын
So true!! Outrageous!
@pamspurgers3578
6 ай бұрын
Beautifully stated and kind of cringe worthy.
@larry4111
6 ай бұрын
Well said (unfortunately).
@orbyfan
6 ай бұрын
You should copyright that disclaimer.
@c.j.colbert6656
4 ай бұрын
I just came back from a Rod Stewart concert. On one song his voice cracked on the first line and he stopped, apologized, and had the band restart from the beginning. So I guess I know it was live. Great show overall btw.
@rickhawkins218
4 ай бұрын
Live Music Is Best
@DaveDee-we8mv
3 ай бұрын
Yep, saw Rod last year. Yes, his voice isn’t as strong as it used to be, but still amazing and a great show.
@JayBigDadyCy
2 ай бұрын
I saw Radiohead in 2009 and they messed up a song. Thom literally said after the song, "we practice non stop for 3 months and fu*k up like that live... You paid for a great performance and you're going to get it" and they played the song again. Perfectly.
@jmkikkawa
Ай бұрын
I wasn't a fan back in the day, but Rod is such a legend.
@earlyhours3179
29 күн бұрын
Great respect for him being real.
@flyingfluffyhockey
5 ай бұрын
If you want to hear how a 70's guy sounds who can hit some notes and misses others while live, watch Daryl Hall, dude just goes for it, hits some , misses some, and just keeps on going.
@markkonzen2924
5 ай бұрын
Same with Mark Farner…
@Scott__C
5 ай бұрын
Daryl Hall is 77. People complain about David Lee Roth, but if I'm going to see him, I'd rather see him with all the foibles than he just play his record and pretend to sing.
@chethammer
5 ай бұрын
Anyone seen John Waite lately? He got better with age. Saw Geoff Tate from Queensryche and he tunes down. He says that he could do one concert using the original tuning and he'd have to take a couple weeks off and besides that he has guys singing backup that can't hit those notes unless they have it tuned down.
@sharkfintech5893
5 ай бұрын
@Scott__C The difference is, Roth was ALWAYS a crappy singer Live; he was just a hype man - drunk and/or stoned half the time at that - only concerned with entertaining the audience while Eddie wailed on guitar. Henley and Hall were both 💯x better in the studio, and were consistently very good live as well.
@denroy3
5 ай бұрын
Yea, his Daryl's house stuff is really good.
@blackswanstudios6632
6 ай бұрын
Here is the truth: They have been doing this to some extent since the Long Road Out Of Eden tour back in 2008. The song "Waiting in the Weeds" (played to a click) would have a normal live performance right up to the much more challenging bridge, where Don would then lipsync the entire bridge every single time. The recordings of those shows were hillarious because it would have a completely natural and very flawed (in other words very human) first half but when it came to the highly challenging notes in the bridge all notes would be slap bang on tune - not just kind of in tune or impressively in tune, but 100 % slap bang mathematically in tune, and that bridge would have different EQing on the lead vocal with every word phrased exactly as the album version down to the last little micro syllable in note lengh, prononciation etc. Identical to the recording. I tried to tell people in the biggest Eagles fan forum at the time that this was going on with that bridge, and there was complete denial including strong push back from the 'powerful' moderators in the forum. People with no musical or technical knowledge with no actual argument to adress the substance would all harshly deny plain reality. Regardless of me being a huge Eagles fan, working with vocal tuning and music production every single day and being able to hear this clear as a bell all the other fans would simply deny that the Eagles would EVER do such a thing. The best argument they had was to point to an old episode from the mid 90's where a journalist claimed Don could have been lip syncing some falsetto notes on "One of these nights", he was then invited to watch a show behind Don's drumkit where his speculation was put to shame and he had to correct his article. The thing is, back in the mid 90s the Eagles were indeed fantastic performers and I have no doubt every single one of those shows were 100 % live vocals. The claim the journalist made had nothing to do with anything substantive, it was simply a hunch of his. But the fan community would use this incident as a way to deny that anything like that could possibly ever happen and that Don is just THAT amazing of a live performer that some people assume he lip syncs. I'm glad you put this video out. You might get some pushback and 'the machine' might try to get you to take it down but it's important to get the truth out there if truth matters at all in music. The eagles were absolutely fantastic performers up to about the year 2000 or so, but they haven't fully kept their chops intact (a ton of shows combined with age often do that to you), and since then they've used a lot of pitch correction (starting with The Millinium Concert and increasingly heavy use since then...try to listen to "I Love To Watch A Woman Dance" from Long Road Out Of Eden, basically unlistenable!) and tricks like sing-back for certain songs and sections has been reality for The Eagles in the modern era.
@akb5531
6 ай бұрын
What is sing-back?
@mbignell1
5 ай бұрын
Interesting. I was a member of one of their fan forums at the time, and do recall someone questioning the live performance of that song. There was a lot of pushback. I wonder if it was the same forum?
@iagobroxado
5 ай бұрын
@@akb5531 probably letting the crowd sing the "hard parts" instead of the artist doing them.
@thefonzkiss
5 ай бұрын
Well said.
@HumbleTrader001
5 ай бұрын
They should just lower the the key of the songs so they can actually sing the whole thing live.
@carljacobsen4481
6 ай бұрын
Don Henley has presented himself as such an "unpleasant" person throughout his career; This is not surprising. Thanks again Fil!
@E-BikingAdventures
6 ай бұрын
Now Don Henley will have to deal with his dirty laundry.
@davidpanzer6746
6 ай бұрын
😂@@E-BikingAdventures
@ggghhhbbnjjjbb2330
6 ай бұрын
I think to get beyond a certain level of success in that business you need to abandon all morality. And the payoff is not worth it by all accounts. None of them enjoy fame after the novelty wears off, and the excessive wealth they could earn in those days probably ruined them as people.
@candelise
5 ай бұрын
@@ggghhhbbnjjjbb2330 A somewhat grand generalisation. Therefore, the bigger they are, the worse they are, right?
@dvdly
5 ай бұрын
Kick 'em when their down. @@E-BikingAdventures
@wakk44
4 ай бұрын
Well,this has had over 400k views and been up for a month which says a lot knowing how quickly the Eagles resort to litigation.This can only mean that Fil has done his research thoroughly and presented a cast iron case which the Eagles and their legal team can't challenge.Well done Fil.
@gregghernandez2714
4 ай бұрын
I would love to see Henley challenge this video in court...he doesn't stand a chance of winning. The facts will win
@YooTooobJeff
4 ай бұрын
Or it means if they DO challenge it there might be something to it
@blindhol
4 ай бұрын
They will probably sue for recording at the concert.
@WindTurbineSyndrome
4 ай бұрын
He probably doesn't have enough views yet to satisfy a lawsuit test of damage.
@helipilotuh1
4 ай бұрын
They’ve got a year to sue.
@stevezed00
6 ай бұрын
Funny you should be pointing this out. I saw the Eagles in February, and in his introduction, Henley mentioned that several band members including himself had colds and were taking some over-the-counter medication. You could hear that he was somewhat congested and his voice was a bit rough. Yet, on the numbers he sang, like Boys of Summer and Desperado, he seemed to hit the higher notes with ease and I marveled at that... now I know how.
@jeffsmith1819
5 ай бұрын
I wish these musicians would just be honest with themselves, and drop the keys to their sons and lower the tuning on the guitars, because people would still love them
@NowhereMan7
5 ай бұрын
@@jeffsmith1819You dont need to change a guitar tuning to play in a lower key but I agree with your point. Heaps of live songs are already played in different keys already though. It can be hard to tell without a reference if a song is only a semitone or tone down. More than that then it might be obvious.
@piano4014
5 ай бұрын
@@NowhereMan7 Good point Jeff
@epicmeade
5 ай бұрын
You don’t need to de tune the guitars. but I think a lot of musicians (especially if they wrote the song and have been playing it nightly for years) do just so they don’t have to battle with their own muscle memory. I just started tuning some of my guitars down a full step because I had noticed that Jackson Browne was doing that on a lot of his songs lately.
@muziktrkr
5 ай бұрын
You definitely can tell with “Boys of Summer” as far as Henley’s singing “live” goes. “Desperado” is end of show, but half the audience isn’t even noticing as they’re trying to get to their cars and beat the congestion. I wonder if the local orchestras that took part in the Hotel Cali tour noticed if he was singing live or not.
@frannyp46
5 ай бұрын
Send this to Rick Beato. He will love this.
@tonivergara5725
5 ай бұрын
😂 Right?
@keithmiles917
5 ай бұрын
Great idea. He most certainly would.
@Mikevdog
5 ай бұрын
Agreed
@slimwagz946
5 ай бұрын
I concur
@1ColdCanadian
5 ай бұрын
DO IT.... DO IT NOW!!!
@momofmanda
6 ай бұрын
We heard Three Dog Night at the Buddy Holly Theater about two years ago (2022ish). The band was young but the three "dogs" were old, one had just had a hip replacement, their vibrato was a little more wavy, and they definitely sounded older and doing the best they could. And you know what? It was great! All was as it should be. We all knew every word, sang along, and had a great time! I got to hear Paul McCartney at SXSW maybe 6 years ago. He is no spring chicken. He sounded his age. I loved it. I wouldn't have wanted to wonder if he was lip syncing to a version from 30 years ago. And when the fireworks began on Live and Let Die, it couldn't have been any better. There's nothing wrong about growing old.
@SuziQ.
6 ай бұрын
I’ve seen a few older bands recently (not as old as the Eagles, but from the early nineties). They sang in lower keys, and had a younger singer join them for the parts that were in the higher registers. This is what I want- transparency. Bring someone else on tour who can hit the high notes, and/or drop your vocals an octave if you have to. If I want to hear the album from 1991, I can play it any time I want to. When I see them live, I expect a live performance, which is always going to sound different from the album.
@keetonplace
6 ай бұрын
I've seen older singers continue and be just fine and entertaining. Did they sound the same as 25 years before, no, but it was the real deal. You just have to add a little there and take a little away to make up for it. I hate fake!
@markclark1803
6 ай бұрын
I saw McCartney around the same time you did. Can’t remember the song, but he blew the piano intro and stopped saying he wanted to start it over. Then he joked “Hey at least you know we’re playing live!”
@Siansonea
6 ай бұрын
I had a similar experience with Heart in 2019. I could tell that Ann and Nancy's voices weren't the same as they were in the 70s and 80s, and they sometimes varied the pitch from the original recordings, and phrasing and the like. But that was part of what made it such an awesome experience.
@markkenific6587
5 ай бұрын
@momofmanda. Three Dog Night has only had one original singer for the last 9 years. Danny Hutton is the only one left. Chuck Negron left the band many years ago and Cory Wells died in 2015.
@churchofpos2279
4 ай бұрын
Saw an Eagles cover band perform several months ago. They played live with no prerecorded vocals or instruments. It was an excellent show. Glad I didn't waste my money on the "real" Eagles.
@cavecookie1
5 ай бұрын
I can't help but remember how Randy Meisner left the band. He didn't think he could sing those really high notes on "Take It To The Limit" during a tour, and got into a "last straw" type of fight and quit the band. And, now Henley is lip-syncing to save his ego. Times have changed; live shows used to be live!
@KaraLey98
5 ай бұрын
I loved that song and Randy singing it. I would have been ok with him retiring those wordless high notes which he varied-the ones at the end-if he could have stayed in the band.
@greggpark1630
5 ай бұрын
I think him not being able to hit the high notes (in the Eagles documentary) was because he was up all night doing blow and drinking booze.
@Nieman100
5 ай бұрын
Says who? The guys who are selling tickets to pre-recorded songs? You still believe anything Henley says? @@greggpark1630
@danc3693
5 ай бұрын
At his advance age, Henley's voice may be unable to do it night after night. Randy -- and the the other Eagles -- partied hard -- not good for the voice.
@albanana683
5 ай бұрын
Live shows should be live, and so should the recording. I bought Donald Fagan's live version of The Nightfly. Shouldn't have bothered, it is very obviously overdubbed with perfect studio vocals.
@s44577
5 ай бұрын
So, concertgoers have been defrauded by Don Henley. That IS what it IS. Live, means live, not recorded. They need to start putting disclaimers on concert adverts saying portions of this event may have been previously recorded. Brilliant job Fil. You're simply the best---better than all the rest...
@chuckufarley8245
5 ай бұрын
We go to concerts to see if the musicians can pull off live what they recorded in the studio - not to see them karaoke to a laptop. There absolutely needs to be disclosure. Then, people have all the info needed to decide whether or not to buy a ticket. This is slap in the face to everyone who puts forth the effort to actually perform live.
@AlmostReady504
5 ай бұрын
Then see NEW BANDS. Like these bands were 50 years ago Bands that have been around 50 years it is impossible to still pull off. Concert tickets will need to State "performing live" Not 'live in concert'
@truthsRsung
5 ай бұрын
@@chuckufarley8245...You are claiming you go to Concerts for their Audio Quality? Really? It isn't the titties, the roar of the crowd, the tour t-shirt, and enjoying a night with like minded individuals? If you expect a Live performance to mimic the sterilized "best" recording, you will be doomed to unhappiness. You perspective is askew.
@NowhereMan7
5 ай бұрын
@@chuckufarley8245 Do you want to have a stupid online argument? The guy above is keen. Though you did not mention audio quality he believes you go to concerts for this reason and will therefore be doomed to eternal hell or something like that. Youre all messed up according to him.
@friguy4444
5 ай бұрын
@@AlmostReady504Unfortunately the chances of that ever happening again in our lifetime is None. Why? Well the industry is not run the same way at all. They used to cultivate their artists in the days of yore. They also took chances on new artists when they weren't already huge on the internet or had their own following that was not scrutinized by other artists first. As in they no longer scout for "Diamonds in the rough" then give them the opportunity to grow and get to that place that they are able to make world shattering music from their hearts. As well the actual playing of their instruments and having actual talent is not part of what makes you valuable anymore. If you can slap together something on the Computer with all samples and use the algorithms to make something that people will click on and pipe into their phones then you're a star. It doesn't make for great artists or real song writers. The biggest and most valued artists we have had in the last 70 years or so have almost all been those that were given the chance to grow and learn how to really work on their craft. Pink Floydd The Bee Gees the Beatles and yes even The Eagles all had ten years of dues paid at least then even most of them didn't make master pieces until they had done three or so albums. Cheap Trick had to go through two album flops before we got Budokan and then Dream Police and then etc. These days they wouldn't have been given a recording contract at all. John Denver wasn't a hit first then made more. He was Nobody then someone gave him a chance because they saw greatness in him before hand. It's pitiful and sad. Once our world threw "The Salt of the World" away as a guiding light the results are evident today. God is vital to great creation even in those that are not religious. The spirit of the Holiness and Greatness that is above mankind is vital to us reaching for something higher than our selves. Take that away and all you get is people trying to grind out superficial junk and the actual "Higher Love" that "Stevie Winwood" sang about isn't valued anymore and all people sing about is some chicks A$$, How to shoot down police, Getting High, How many Lambos you've got and how "I'm gonna get me some". Sick world sick results. All written by "Something new from Apple Two". No more guitar heros, No more incredible Karen Carpenters or Even 'We're not gonna Take it" Anthems.
@howabouthat8606
5 ай бұрын
I was listening with headphones, focusing on hearing two vocals, then realized I'm hearing two crowds, one vocal.
@rmyikzelf5604
2 ай бұрын
Same here
@mipmipmipmipmip-v5x
Ай бұрын
I loved this experiment. In my earphones I could hear 2 audiences being ripped offf 😂
@BretZajac
19 күн бұрын
A friend of mine years ago was hired to help on lights for the eagles, and said they had pre-recorded vocals. Now I believe him.
@garyfranco7827
6 ай бұрын
Brings a whole new meaning to "The End of the Innocence"
@richardchoi168
5 ай бұрын
😂Yep. It’s real “Dirty Laundry”.
@rediusneckius1
5 ай бұрын
😂
@martymartin2894
5 ай бұрын
That was about the 15 year old girl 😂😂😂😂
@garylefevers
5 ай бұрын
martymartin2894, sad but true.
@GusMac-kv7zi
Ай бұрын
Ugh, the heart of the matter, I don't love this anymore.
@ringooneringoone3042
5 ай бұрын
I love you Phil. Finally someone has put Henley in the witness stand of indefensible. I'm 68 and grew up with and loved the Eagles. However, Henley is the world's biggest musical tyrant. End of story.
@drwoo6090
5 ай бұрын
Fil 🙂
@Tiago_007
5 ай бұрын
Amen to that.
@marnaehrech1223
5 ай бұрын
Oh, I didn't know that. I've always loved his voice, loved the Eagles. Now my 💜 is broken
@mayaram2411
5 ай бұрын
What a pity. Because he’s one of the best American songwriters ever.
@cq9882
5 ай бұрын
Henley - Ditto
@frednerk8366
6 ай бұрын
it's a disgrace. If he can't sing live anymore, he should pack it in and save his reputation. I would want my money back.
@HumbleTrader001
6 ай бұрын
Yeah, or just lower the key if a song is too high in the original key. Stop trying to fool the audience.
@dawnmccormick5534
6 ай бұрын
This is exactly what I was going to say. Don Henley and the Eagles should be ashamed of themselves for charging their fans so much money and not really singing. My parents went to a concert a few years ago of an artist who was in his 70s and his singing voice sounded just like it did when he was in his 20s! My parents were obviously suspicious and then they noticed there was no orchestra in the pit but yet you could hear the orchestra playing. My parents were so mad and wanted their money back.
@heidichristensen7919
6 ай бұрын
That was my thought too. I’ve been saddened to see that one of my favorite singers (who I won’t name because they are still touring) doesn’t have the pipes he did even 5 years ago. Actually true with a bunch of bands I like. But then again many of them are in their 70s - they aren’t going to be able to hit those notes like they did 40 years ago.
@ohsweetmystery
6 ай бұрын
Or be honest and let the ticket buyers know it will be lip synced.
@judyrichards8365
6 ай бұрын
They’re basically charging you to listen to them play their album.
@michaelsokolowski7143
6 ай бұрын
Kudos to Phil Collins for doing a final tour with Genesis for the fans, vocal inaccuracies and all. We felt the love and forgave the intonation problems on re-keyed songs. The vibe was beautiful, and that's what it's about. Some people said that was sad. THIS is what's sad. Denying human aging. The glowing embers of a band are still uniquely beautiful; you don't need to create a fake fire.
@maryok4099
6 ай бұрын
They should be able to adapt their performances to their capabilities. I think Frank Sinatra dud that over the decades. Maybe FIL could do some comparisons over the years for the greats.
@PeterCamberwick
5 ай бұрын
Damn right. I was at one of those shows. Yes he was very dodgy, but you new it was live and I think most of us were there just to say we were there for the end of the journey if that makes sense. Also, Genesis were upfront about it by releasing the documentary of the rehearsals. They layed it on the line and said this is how it's going to be. I respect that. ... On a related note, everyone's praising Steve Hackett for "doing Genesis properly", or some other similar remark. And yes, he's doing a great job. But speaking of vocals, here's a little experiment. Try taking the studio version of songs from Steve's more recent albums, and matching it up with a live version of the same song. You'll notice a startling similarity. :)
@rvninnorthcarolina3377
5 ай бұрын
I also saw the last Genesis tour and my ear is somewhat trained and I spent many years at FOH in the analog days of music and they were genuine, imperfections and all. I was SO GLAD that I got to attend that concert and experience one of the greatest bands. It was great to see Phil's son at the drums as well and making his Dad proud. Awesome show!
@corinneyaworski-mh9uc
5 ай бұрын
I agree!! 👍
@therealniksongs
5 ай бұрын
I agree that this is way worse than what Phil Collins did. As a fan of Phil's from the first time I ever heard him play and of Genesis from before Phil was even a member, I found it heartbreaking to see Phil in such a state. But I will take you at your word that it was more a fond, if sad, farewell. I just know I didn't want to have to endure it.
@pedromancenithe3rd
5 ай бұрын
Don Henley gets VERY prickly about copyright of his songs and gets almost everything blocked on KZitem. HOLY SMOKE, I dread to think what he's going to think of your analysis of his performance, or rather lack of performance in this case, on this video. Keep looking over your shoulder Fil. Keep up the good work,
@dopiaza2006
5 ай бұрын
The guy's a prick. Tried to get many well respected youtubers banned.
@barryscott8041
5 ай бұрын
Henley has always been a narcissist s.o.b.
@JustinWillhoit
5 ай бұрын
To be fair. Don himself doesn’t flag stuff. It’s probably an algorithm or legal team
@AmyAndThePup
5 ай бұрын
@@JustinWillhoit For sure. I seriously doubt a singer sits there and goes over all these KZitem videos to report copyrighted songs. Still, I'm worried there will be a negative fall-out over this video. :(
@mobilfone2234
5 ай бұрын
@JustinWillhoit And who hired the legal team ?
@janice234
5 ай бұрын
Joni Mitchell is a great example of someone who ages gracefully. Her 2024 Grammys performance of Both Sides Now was all her, old voice and all.
@Aikitide
5 ай бұрын
She is a consummate artist. Attempting to be someone she no longer is would be fraud. That she has come back and can perform at all is a blessing for us all. She loves what she does and her fans expect the unique one time performance that is a live show. Joni is a performing artist and a painter. A live performance should be delivered as if the performer has never performed it before. A sand mandala may be a hybrid of the unique performance and the permanence of a painting. Henley is pathetic. Money has him by the tail and has diminished his life's work. You can't hold on to something if you you don't let it go.
@lorihoop3831
5 ай бұрын
Love Joni. Hearing her sing now encouraged me to keep singing even though my voice changed like hers. 2 whole octaves lower from 8 days intubation. Grateful to have it at all after that.
@bloodmoney88
5 ай бұрын
the difference: she's a true artist, Henly is a businessman in comparison.
@Super241946
5 ай бұрын
Mitchell is an opportunist leftist. Commented in a song about the 'biased' reporting on the "Tuam Babies" story from Ireland. She's typical of the leftist trash who have infiltrated the music industry.
@JoryKorvid
5 ай бұрын
Easy to maintain your voice when you never had any talent. Also she can't physically stand up.
@adrianpollard2763
4 ай бұрын
Hi, Fil. Excellent video. I've suspected for along time that Henley was miming on stage on occasions. This absolutely proves it. Anybody that has ever done any home recording knows that it is totally impossible to replicate 2 live vocals of the same lyrics & melody to this degree of accuracy if they are both live. The usual trick is to record one track, duplicate it, then add a delay to one ( or both ) tracks to ensure they play very slightly out of sync to give a stereo widening effect. The evidence you are displaying here clearly shows without a doubt that this was the same audio track on both videos. It doesn't surprise me. After all, it's Don Henley! Well presented, undeniable evidence. Well done.
@rickss69
5 ай бұрын
Don Felder once said Henley was a person who would instantly suck the joy out of any room...
@deaconblue5211
5 ай бұрын
That was Glen Frey's quote not Felders. Accurate observation just the same
@larrycourtney8893
5 ай бұрын
Henley has seemed like a quite unlikable person for a very long time now..
@danielerickson5175
5 ай бұрын
I attended the first farm aid event in 1985… after the much rumored Eddie Van Halen, Sammy Hagar event happened for the first time… Mr. Henley came out and started singing “ boys of summer “… effectively sucking all of the fun out of the entire stadium. That’s when everyone started walking out.
@ponzo1967
5 ай бұрын
Good old boy Texan
@carlbaumeister3439
5 ай бұрын
@@danielerickson5175I don’t understand your point.
@JeffBerger-z1b
6 ай бұрын
In the United States, ten years ago, New York tried to pass a law requiring such shows be labeled as music performances and not concerts so people would know what they were getting. Ticketmaster and Live Nation killed the bill.
@atreb56
6 ай бұрын
I can't stand Ticketmaster. Despicable corporation.
@SuziQ.
6 ай бұрын
@@atreb56, There’s a petition going around to break the Ticketmaster/Live Nation monopoly. It will also end legalized scalping if it passes. I saw it on Instagram, and signed it. You can probably find it in a general search. Venues want to break the monopoly, too. I go to the House of Blues whenever someone good is here, and they support the petition. As of now, they have no way to stop the legalized scalping of tickets.
@memymine9202
5 ай бұрын
Tbf Ticketmaster finance the shows. When an artist such as the eagles demands 100% of the possible profit of a show (assuming a 100% sellout) prior to going on stage, a promoter needs access to serious $$$ upfront. And the only companies that have access to that sort of cash are the ticket companies - which is why they get to (within limits) set their own ticketing fee. Bear in mind 100% of the ticket’s face value is paid to the artist/promoter and you can see they will want to make a margin to cover their own finance opportunities, & cancellation cost risk.
@memymine9202
5 ай бұрын
Ps sorry that was a reply to @56atreb. I should say, The general conduct of some of the key players here, including Irving azoff and Phil anschutz, would fill miserable volumes…
@donaldcook3112
5 ай бұрын
@@memymine9202. . . It’s that ‘gift to the world’ from the ‘U.S.’ - in every way possible: ‘GREED’ - “… the whole GREED, and nothing but the GREED”. You all now how it goes. Let’s not forget that ALL involved with this ‘group’ at the, er, the ‘top-level’ are worth hundreds of millions each - or more. Much more. But still they want more … for not doing the ‘job’ properly. A cheat, is a cheat, is a cheat. No ‘middle ground’ exists - no matter what the ‘ s m a l l p r I n t ‘ may show.
@FlansFinest
5 ай бұрын
Why am I not surprised? When it comes to Don Henley it has always been about the money, and nothing else. He is always suing someone for even attempting to play or use a few seconds of an Eagles performance. Look how he treated Don Felder. So to see him do something like this is no surprise. He wants to milk every last cent he can out of people who want to see the Eagles perform. When you listen to them now, they sound like an average Eagles Tribute band. They should have called it a wrap after the Hell Freezes Over tour, but instead they kept going, getting rid of Felder for wanting equal pay for doing the same amount of work as the rest and keeping the money machine going for Henley. It just proves that for Henley it's not about the music, it's about the money. Good job Phil
@j.6756
5 ай бұрын
Fraud... FRAUD... !!!... on all ticket buyers...
@jeremychambers8736
5 ай бұрын
And you know what, Felder is doing pretty good for himself. I just wish Timothy, Joe, Steuart, and Vince would bail and form their own band
@pedromancenithe3rd
5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I take your point BUT he could make more money by people purchasing his music after hearing it PROMOTED on KZitem. He just doesn't get it.!!
@nopnj
5 ай бұрын
Joe Walsh has been carrying them even when Frey was alive.
@DTurner-y3y
5 ай бұрын
@@jeremychambers8736$$$$ main reason they won’t.
@jackevans2386
Ай бұрын
I agree completely with you, but if you view the 2 16bit wave forms one on top of the other you will see an even closer match. The phasing is identical too.
@scottfromsouthcarolina3185
6 ай бұрын
Another thing that annoys me is when singers half sing/almost talk through their best song then hold out the microphone for the audience to sing the chorus.
@SuziQ.
6 ай бұрын
That’s still better than lip syncing to a pitch corrected track.
@EvonZundel
5 ай бұрын
I agree - holding the microphone out is not singing the song.
@bh8365
5 ай бұрын
@scotfrom..... Good point. I've seem that done to excess many times while watching videos.
@HumbleTrader001
5 ай бұрын
Yeah, Living on a Prayer comes to mind. :)
@TheBTG88
5 ай бұрын
That’s U2 now.
@peterkennett33
4 ай бұрын
In 2011 I was invited to sit with the Eagle's guitar tuner down in the dugout on stage during their 2011 The Long Road Out of Eden world tour n Singapore. After 30 minutes I wandered over to the audio technician and took a few photos before Don Henley came down and was freaking out and told the technician to make sure I didn't photograph anything. Too late. I wasn't aware at first why there was such a big issue - until I watched the tech closely and saw that he was queuing in vocal tracks for Don. That was in 2011! I have that photo if you want to see it.
@emailuser8104
4 ай бұрын
I'd be interested in seeing it
@LL-rb8wd
4 ай бұрын
I definitely want to see it!
@guitarchitectural
4 ай бұрын
Yes please
@jamesmick8653
4 ай бұрын
I do.
@peterkennett33
4 ай бұрын
@@jamesmick8653I can’t upload images here.
@perry801
5 ай бұрын
As a producer and recording/mixing engineer, I can easily hear (without visual reference to the duplicate waveforms) that the "two" vocals are actually one and the same. As was obvious from your own vocal demonstration, it's impossible to perfectly duplicate a vocal, there are always difference in timing and pitch. Since you have more than adequately proven that the two vocals were taken from different performances, we can safely assume that Don was lip-syncing.
@elizabethmiller7291
5 ай бұрын
May I ask a question of you as a producer and recording/mixing engineer? My favourite band of all time may soon be re-releasing their phenomenal debut album - the first debut album by a Canadian artist to achieve platinum status in Canada in less than a year from its August 1977 date of release - and I am petrified that my favourite vocalist who is no longer with us will have his brilliant vocals pitch corrected. Should I be concerned about this? Is this something that is inevitable? Is there hope that his natural voice will not be manipulated? Because if they mess with his natural voice, that would be akin to sacrilege and I will refuse to purchase it. Only problem is, the record label won't be disclosing if pitch correction was used so how will I know unless I purchase it and listen with my own two ears?
@perry801
5 ай бұрын
@@elizabethmiller7291 If the album is being re-released as-is, perhaps with new packaging, possibly re-mastered (not re-mixed) then you have nothing to worry about. Pitch correction is done at the editing/mixing stage of production, and unless the record company is planning to re-mix the album-which would be fairly costly and therefore unlikely-the vocals would remain untouched. That said, pitch correction can be done tastefully and sparingly if good judgement is used, and in such a way that it's not even noticeable. The only way you might be able to be sure is to compare the vocal performance on the re-release to the vocals on the original. If the album, or any of the tracks from it, is released on Spotify, you may be able to make a comparison before purchasing the new album. I'm aware that Spotify stream mainly MP3s, but you should still be able to hear any obvious pitch correction.
@perry801
5 ай бұрын
@@elizabethmiller7291 If the album is being re-released as-is, and is not being remixed, then you have nothing to worry about.. Pitch correction is done during the editing and mixing stage, when individual tracks can be worked on. The record company may decide to remaster the album, but this is done to the final mixes and does not affect individual tracks, so pitch correction cannot be applied to the vocal at this stage. If you have the original album, you might be able to make a comparison to the re-release if any of the tracks are available on Spotify. Even if you're listening to Spotify's MP3 files, you should still be able to tell if there is a difference in the vocal by comparing it to the original, then you can decide whether or not to buy the re-release. Hope this was helpful to you.
@notanobodywithabody
5 ай бұрын
If the record is being "re-mixed" I'd say there will most certainly be pitch correction used. If it's being "re-mastered" then no, it will most likely not be used.
@elizabethmiller7291
5 ай бұрын
@@notanobodywithabody Then I hope it won't be re-mixed! Thanks for your reply.
@jenf2468
Ай бұрын
Mind blowing! Makes me treasure, all the more, performances where the artist is vulnerable and may make a couple of mistakes, even forgetting words. Authentic artistry and communication between an artist and their audience.
@RhiannonFan
5 ай бұрын
It's been 9 days since upload. Fil's analysis video is still live; and hopefully so is Fil!!
@richardfinlayson1524
5 ай бұрын
Yeah especially after the Boeing whistle blower, lol,😢
@tooleyoclock
5 ай бұрын
Fil, you’ve done a great service. Guerilla Journalism at its finest. We’ve got your back, brother. The truth shall set you free!
@briansowell6582
4 ай бұрын
Been a month now.
@danlowe8684
6 ай бұрын
I have seen Henley three times in concert and all three times, no matter whom I was with, we always raved at how his vocals sounded so much like his studio versions. Perhaps this is why. He is also one of the most litigious artists of all-time so he will likely try to get this taken down. He would sue an 8-year-old girl playing his music at her lemonade stand if he could squeeze a nickel per cup out of her!!
@annmarie3573
5 ай бұрын
So accurate!
@therealniksongs
5 ай бұрын
Have no doubt that Don has already called his lawyers...
@drinkinslim
5 ай бұрын
@@therealniksongs ...on the 8-year-old girl playing his music at her lemonade stand
@HardRockMaster7577
5 ай бұрын
Perhaps Don should be sued in a Class Action Lawsuit. I don't care personally, because I'm not going to any of these shows.
@clemclemson9259
5 ай бұрын
we already know all that bro. dont support them . simple
@MariUSukulele
Ай бұрын
Your expertise, Fil, is much obliged!
@abdeton1899
5 ай бұрын
DAMN, talk about Dirty Laundry!
@E4RLIES
4 ай бұрын
Ha! Good call 👌🏼🤣🤣
@YouTube_hates_truth
4 ай бұрын
I see what you did there 😂😂😂
@melodymacken9788
Ай бұрын
Ain't just. Nicely said.
@johnnada1222
Ай бұрын
I see what you did there 😂
@HomerSparkle
5 ай бұрын
Legend has it that Henley once sued himself for copyright infringement. Now we know why.
@Donfleebie1
5 ай бұрын
😂
@carolinej3661
5 ай бұрын
LOLOL!
@carlbaumeister3439
5 ай бұрын
Best comment!
@AndyMakesPlaylists
5 ай бұрын
Wonder if he'll sue himself now -- for fraud!
@Chachi_JD
5 ай бұрын
Hahaha 🏆
@markgrant5305
19 күн бұрын
Interesting that the two original videos are now no longer available to view.
@FR-kb1fc
5 ай бұрын
This should be a huge story. It is fantastic journalism and analysis and shows tremendous integrity. I didn't see it in the comments but the major historical example of this was Milli Vanilli.
@roberthaigh3206
5 ай бұрын
Yes, but what made the Milli Vanilli scandal even worse was the fact that they were miming to SOMEONE ELSE'S voices! Shame on the Eagles though (or Don Hanley, at least) for secretly miming in what was supposed to be a live performance!
@matchpoint14
5 ай бұрын
FR, other bands are doing it as well, Motley Crue has been exposed by their ex member Mick Mars
@conniec7650
5 ай бұрын
@@roberthaigh3206. Never saw them present who was actually doing the singing for Milli Vanilli though. When Rob Pilatus did a short interview stating that he sang, he cut loose with a song and it sounded like the voice in their recordings.
@andycummings-music
5 ай бұрын
It happens regularly on Saturday Night Live. It's an outrage.
@Cotronixco
6 ай бұрын
I'm not surprised. Kudos not only to Fil, but also to the sharp fan who brought this to your attention.
@marciebulsaraorcutt
6 ай бұрын
This is sad. During Queen & Freddie Mercury’s tours (in the 80s especially)… Freddie knew he wasn’t able to replicate the higher notes he sang in-studio, in a live setting due to recurring nodules on his vocal cords. So, they just altered the song arrangements, and they had drummer Roger Taylor sing the higher parts when they performed live. I’d rather hear something real, even if it’s different than the original record.
@PhilWare1
5 ай бұрын
Genesis/Phil Collins have been transposing certain songs/vocal sections to different keys from at least the mid 2000's. Makes perfect sense to adjust songs as your voice gets older.
@barryscott8041
5 ай бұрын
Specifically, Roger would sing back-up and yes, belt it out in that higher pitch Roger had. We saw that explained in this man's recent video about Live Aid 1985. As great as that performance was, there's 2 spots where Freddie's voice breaks
@hazelleblanc8969
5 ай бұрын
Elton John did the same. While I miss those amazing high notes he used to be able to sing, I understood and still loved his performances.
@deborahdoesscrap
5 ай бұрын
I think a lot of people assumed that Freddie was singing the high notes because of his celebrated vocal range but Roger frequently hit the high notes, even when Freddie's voice was strong and definitely during Live Aid. Freddie had vocal nodules plus they were fresh off a tour that had really shredded Freddie's vocals. Roger has an amazing voice and the willingness to support the band by doing whatever was necessary to make the music great for all of the fans. There weren't a lot of drummers who sang as well as Roger did and he and the other band mates were conscious of supporting Freddie whenever there was a need. I just saw them in Denver this past November and it is sad to see the tole playing drums has had on Rogers hands. He has very painful arthritis and they did have a back up drummer, Tyler Warren, to help him out but he still played wonderfully and seeing Brian still being able to sort of run down the track while playing was a joy to behold. They added a section where a drum kit is out at the end of the track and I was sitting right there. I could tell that he was still playing really well and especially for someone his age. I think Tyler sat that song out.
@pamherman6363
5 ай бұрын
Happy to read these kudos for Roger Taylor. Queen was and is a band in the best sense of the word. Roger can’t hit those high notes now, but he sings in a register that suits his older voice. I don’t mind if older singers have to make changes. Their music is honest and good.
@CFCMahomet
3 ай бұрын
Maybe instead of shutting down KZitemrs, Don Henley needs to address this.
@spooge33
5 ай бұрын
Years ago, my mom was an usher at Mohegan Sun. When the Eagles played, after the lights went down, the ushers had to exit the arena because they were not allowed to see the show for free.
@trex9263
5 ай бұрын
Wow! That says a lot. That is pretty disgusting.
@Gramma65
5 ай бұрын
Wow that’s ridiculous! He’s so greedy!
@dr.darkroom
5 ай бұрын
Sounds like complete assholes
@mystiquesquared
5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂wow
@lazur1
5 ай бұрын
Nonsense. Who'd make them leave? Themselves?
@jeffreyhender5272
6 ай бұрын
Is this the same Don Henley who scolded Randy Meisner for no longer being able to hit the high note in “Take it to the Limit” as “not being up to Eagles standards” in the documentary?
@tangogrrl
6 ай бұрын
Trying to remember the legend... Wasn't it the other Eagle that decked him? I vaguely remember the story... Randy refused to sing it as the finale at one concert, because he had the flu, and knew he couldn't hit it, and some Eagle (Fry?) insisted he do it anyway, but he didn't want to disappoint the fans, so he refused, and it came to blows. I loved Randy's voice the best.
@donaldsalkovick396
6 ай бұрын
@@tangogrrl glen Frey decked Don Felder over politics and butt kissing
@SuziQ.
6 ай бұрын
@@tangogrrl, Close. Randy was sick, and didn’t want to sing it. Frey called him a pu$$y. Randy hit Frey, and quit the band. That was after 11 months of touring, at the end of a concert (second encore) in June 1977. He was my favourite Eagle, too.
@beeonthyme5760
5 ай бұрын
Isn't that karma? His Karma ran over his dogma.
@Piggy-Oink-Oink
5 ай бұрын
he never did that-that was Glen Frey.
@tinag4262
5 ай бұрын
In an interview with Charlie Rose in 2015, Henley claims that they prohibit cell phones for the sake of the audience to "be with the band in the moment" rather than being preoccupied by the phones. Is it possible that the real reason they prohibit cell phones is to reduce the chances of recorded evidence of lipsyncing throughout the years? How disingenuous of him to claim he prohibits phones for the sake of the audience experience when, in reality, he is trying to hide the fact that he is defrauding his audience. Rather ironic that he implies that the concert is a special experience not to be missed when it's just a recording ... I don't know how to link the interview, but it is found on KZitem titled, "Don Henley: Please stop texting at Eagles concerts"
@Piggy-Oink-Oink
3 ай бұрын
Not exactly. Henley just doesn't approve of posting his concerts to youtube or other web streaming outlets. he hires people for minimum wage to scour the internet and have anything Henley removed.
@cambridgebob8953
Ай бұрын
Wow this is blockbuster information. It is so professionally analyzed and presented that it leaves no doubt. Certainly worth watching in its entirety. Thanks, Fil. Looking forward to more of your analyses.
@tonybranton
5 ай бұрын
Share this EVERYWHERE! Don Henley deserves nothing less!
@MichaelJamesWood
5 ай бұрын
Done!
@fredthompson1279
5 ай бұрын
Agreed ,he's one of the biggest D bags in the music industry.
@clemclemson9259
5 ай бұрын
dont support them. he hurt you ?
@tonybranton
5 ай бұрын
@@clemclemson9259 I know what a spoiled brat he was growing up and how arrogant he is. Got my reasons
@Chip118
5 ай бұрын
@@tonybranton he also produced some of the greatest American music of all time surpassing Michael Jackson in music that came out BEFORE Hotel California.. So there's that 🤡☠️ Dont really care about his personality at all 😂
@johnsimpson7627
5 ай бұрын
I saw Eagles about 15 years ago “live” at 02 London. I was amazed that Joe Walsh could effortlessly hit his high notes spot on, sometimes when he was too far away from his mic😂. Long suspected what I was hearing wasn’t what I seeing from The Eagles. Too perfect
@chrisnieto5547
5 ай бұрын
I was at one of those O2 gigs two. I paid about £500 for a pair of tickets to be 4 rows back. I am a pro vocalist and I have to say I wasn’t looking for any shenanigans because I just trusted the bands integrity. I mean Henley can sing …really sing but it was not note perfect in every sense that looking back now I do start to suspect.
@johnsimpson7627
5 ай бұрын
@@chrisnieto5547 Henley has a wonderful voice, I suspected nothing at the time about Henley, but Joe Walsh’s ability to hit pitch perfect notes whilst being too far away from his mic, was something I noticed at the time
@jeffboles2470
5 ай бұрын
I have a really hard time believing Joe would even have the ability to match to a lip sync, let alone would he be willing. That dude is a live in the moment person from the word go. Maybe I’m wrong though.
@robertforster9482
5 ай бұрын
I watched the live show on TV. Joe Walsh is singing as good now as ever and that is not possible. High notes do degrade over time. I am a singer myself so I know.
@ratdogsoundhouse8999
5 ай бұрын
@@robertforster9482Glen Hughes doesn't seem to have any issues with the high notes. But yeah, if this isn't the same concert then it's definitely mimed.
@tetreaulthank4068
5 ай бұрын
Thank you Fil for having the guts to tell it as it really is, I know it had to be uncomfortable but that’s why we have all come to value your opinion so much 👍🏻
@nikkic36
4 ай бұрын
This isn’t an isolated incident in the live industry. Good on you for showing it
@anguslean4058
Ай бұрын
First they get you to pay 30 bucks for a cd Then they get you to pay 60 bucks for a concert ticket so you can watch them mime to a pre recorded song Amazing Glad my concert going days are over I would be so pissed of if I payed money to watch them mime a song
@NeilLeSheepyEpstein
5 ай бұрын
I was just humming Desperado. Expecting litigation any moment now.
@johngordonmeade361
5 ай бұрын
Turn yourself in and they might go easy on you. Otherwise you face significant seizure of assets.
@cisium1184
5 ай бұрын
Elaine, could you just not talk for one minute?
@JoeAugustAcoustic
5 ай бұрын
I have one copyright strike on my channel in ten years. Guess the song lol
@alcambrola2834
5 ай бұрын
I sing it at Karaoke. Maybe I'll get served papers.
@seanswinton6242
5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@joeozelis6313
6 ай бұрын
Holy guff, Batman! Is this the "Milli Vanilli" moment for the music industry in 2024?
@SuziQ.
6 ай бұрын
That’s what I said/thought. Lip syncing ruined them, and they were forced to do it.
@Jacques.dAnjou
5 ай бұрын
Not quite. Milli Vanilli were enslaved. This is just old people being ashamed of being old, and still wanna enjoy some fame. And, well money, obviously.
@originalhgc
5 ай бұрын
Girl, you know it's true.
@jeffreese1828
5 ай бұрын
Enslaved ?!? "You WILL lipsync , Boys , from Sun-up to Sundown .... and LIKE IT ! OR ELSE !! " I especially enjoyed their lipsync versions of "Swing Low , Sweet Chariot" , and the lively "Pick a Bale a Day" ! Nah , they were bums who were glad to ride a pretty boy image to gullible teens .... until the record skipped ! And you shouldn't throw such a word around , lest the seriousness of it be lost .
@SuziQ.
5 ай бұрын
@@jeffreese1828 , You can read about what happened to them. They were not allowed to sing. Their producer orchestrated the fraud. The fraud led to lawsuits, and people were refunded for their concert tickets and money spent on their albums.
@joehamiltonsongs
5 ай бұрын
As a singer I know how the voice changes with age and how difficult it is to perform on tours. Thanks for investigating this. We are all human beings….some of us are honest. Ripping off fans is a disgrace.
@sally7210
4 ай бұрын
Love your channel! You are amazingly bright and talented in what you do! Thank you!
@safromnc8616
6 ай бұрын
As an Eagles fan for 50+ years, to hear Don Henley do this song today is quite sad. IMHO when Glenn Frey passed that should have been the end of the Eagles. This particular song has always been a Linda Ronstadt song for me.
@Constantijn09
6 ай бұрын
Linda’s version is the definitive version (both Don and Glenn thought so as well)
@mitchkenvin259
6 ай бұрын
Finally someone who agrees. They’re nothing but an aging nostalgia band.
@fnjesusfreak
6 ай бұрын
To me it's always been a Clint Black song.
@RockChick63174
6 ай бұрын
@fnjesusfreak you have to be joking. It was written by Eagles members, and they performed it with Linda before they were famous.
@ScabibbleWilly
6 ай бұрын
You are exactly right. They should have stopped then. But, money hungry Don wanted to keep it going, sorry, but true.
@coriandre7
5 ай бұрын
Saw the Eagles live March 13th 2024. My biggest surprise was that Don Henley who in my mind is the main singer only sang 4 songs. Now, I know why. Even Joe Walsh sang 4 songs. You know Walsh’s performances are genuine as he puts a lot of add lib to them.
@spuds6423
5 ай бұрын
Joe is a pro, and most of all, He is Joe!!!😂😂😂 I would rather see him with his band in a club or a theater.
@XENONEZZ2
5 ай бұрын
I agree regards Joe....actually when I've seen the Eagles recently it's Joe's performances that stay with me.....as you say there's a lot of add libbing and improvisation.... so ok Henley might need some help these days but there's more to an Eagles concert than just him...much more.
@spuds6423
5 ай бұрын
@@XENONEZZ2 Don't let Henley hear you say that!!!🤔🤣🤣🤣
@tray77777
5 ай бұрын
I only pay to see the Eagles live in order to see Joe.
@mipmipmipmipmip-v5x
Ай бұрын
They just take turns lip syncing 😂 one day they'll accidentally mix it up and 'sing' each other's song 😂
@armandocardenas6094
5 ай бұрын
Here one story from Henley narrated by himself : I used to row in my boat in the swamps ( in Texas ) one day I realized there were people doing the same thing as me so I went ahead and purchased all that land so I could enjoy it by myself..... Now I own the land, it is mine and I can enjoy it without other people in it. That's who he is.
@lisalisa1054
5 ай бұрын
So sad
@samdeninno1951
5 ай бұрын
He was and always was a typical lefty
@lorihoop3831
5 ай бұрын
He's an arrogant, self absorbed, class A Asshole. I tried to like him because I really love his voice but he's made it impossible. Some of the interviews he did put him in a bad light.
@feistyjerseygirl
5 ай бұрын
@samdeninno1951 stop using names. He is always worried about money and that makes him a typical right winger.
@samdeninno1951
5 ай бұрын
@@feistyjerseygirl The money grubbing elitists are all leftwingers
@paulhyland7456
Ай бұрын
We learn more and more every day. This is the end of the innocence.
@jackdawes120
5 ай бұрын
What a great piece of forensic exposure of phoniness.
@mikeb7379
6 ай бұрын
I just watched a video of Joni Mitchell, (Newport Festival), 78 years of age, first live performance after surviving a brain anuerism. She sounded nothing like her younger self. She sounded older, wiser and frail and magnificent.
@mrJimCharles
5 ай бұрын
She would be pretty much the last person who would ever do this crap
@damnyankeefl
5 ай бұрын
@@mrJimCharlescrap?
@zounds13
5 ай бұрын
She has the courage and integrity that Henley lacks.
@mrJimCharles
5 ай бұрын
@@damnyankeefl lip sync
@gsteckly
5 ай бұрын
Magnificent...indeed.
@jenniferdnoseworthy2348
6 ай бұрын
The Eagles played here in NL maybe 10 yrs ago, and it was disastrous. They didn’t know where they were, they were fighting amongst themselves. The meet and greet was no photos, just a handshake. The performance wasn’t all that great but the ticket price was humongous. Sour taste in my mouth and was never the same again.
@Wee162
6 ай бұрын
Where is NL??
@TheBassgoddess
6 ай бұрын
Newfoundland, Canada
@heenez2397
6 ай бұрын
@Wee162 I think it is the Netherlands. Thats the official abbreviation, NL
@wongnaichungrd
6 ай бұрын
I saw them in ‘76 during the Hotel California tour. They were always a paint by numbers band live. Good but not great. It’s inexcusable if they are altering performances by artificial means.
@E-BikingAdventures
6 ай бұрын
Northern Louisianna? North Liverpool, Never Land?
@BarbaricAvatar
Ай бұрын
I think it's a good reflection of character that an individual is willing to dupe their fans into thinking they can still sing live when the reality is that they can't or can't be bothered to. There are things that can be changed in the music to accommodate age-related vocal limitations but a perfectionist unwilling to accept that age is inevitable may well turn to trickery in order to give the ideal performance that they think everyone wants. I can't speak for everyone else but I go to a live show to hear live music: That's the instruments and the vocals. And yes sometimes the shows kinda suck because a few people in the band overdid it the night before or just aren't feeling it that day. We all have bad days and I appreciate that they're having a go anyway for the sake of their bandmates and the fans. But to just not bother? That's lame.
@elizabethmiller7291
6 ай бұрын
Good God! I just very recently saw the Eagles perform this song in Toronto. Tickets were about $150. So, what we have here is a great artist using pitch correction in a live performance which, by definition, isn't a live performance at all. Can't use pitch correction on an actual live performance so let's mime the "live" performance and use a pitch corrected vocal and pitch correct God knows what else. This is UN-FREAKIN'-BELIEVABLE!!! I'm still hopeful that Fil's petition on the disclosure of pitch correction will get hundreds of thousands of signatures to at least make it newsworthy but, realistically, if the Eagles of all artists are getting away with stuff like this then we real music lovers may have already lost the battle. :(
@claudianash9811
6 ай бұрын
Very disappointing to spend that kind of money without really knowing what you're paying for. I agree with you on Fil's quest for full disclosure. I signed and shared his petition.
@elizabethmiller7291
6 ай бұрын
@@claudianash9811 Excellent! We need to share that petition far and wide and let the Eagles know that we know what they are doing!
@randywissler9923
6 ай бұрын
Don't think the issue was about pitch correction, it was about The EAGLES lip syncing in 2 completely different concerts.
@elizabethmiller7291
6 ай бұрын
@@randywissler9923 It was about BOTH!
@abc456f
6 ай бұрын
It's artistic criminality.
@RSVPini
6 ай бұрын
Many years ago the Eagles had the "Hell Freezes Over" tour. Now they appear to be on the "Vocal Track Over" tour.
@jaex9617
6 ай бұрын
😂
@atreb56
6 ай бұрын
😂
@SuziQ.
6 ай бұрын
It’s the “Milli Vanilli Tribute” tour.
@hardlines2635
5 ай бұрын
Not just vocals.
@greyhairedphantom4038
5 ай бұрын
😂
@kennycab3374
5 ай бұрын
I remember the Eagles being the first concert that was going to cost me 10 bucks a ticket, and bitching about how insane that was. Ahhh, the good ol days.
@mysterj1
5 ай бұрын
They were the first band I know to ask $100 a ticket.
@nicholassmith479
5 ай бұрын
Minimum wage was 2.50 an hour?
@goopah
5 ай бұрын
My first ever concert was Kiss in Winter of 1977. Bismarck, ND, the Love Gun Tour. Tickets were $8. It was so loud and they were playing so badly that I couldn't figure out what songs they were playing, and I was a big fan and had all the albums. But it was an awesome spectacle. The entire auditorium was constantly vibrating with noise. No ear plugs either. I learned fast though.
@erikthorne
5 ай бұрын
I paid $12.50 Canadian to see the Eagles in 1978.
@deaniemack
5 ай бұрын
And Henley’s been singing Desperado since way back then ❤️(When pitch correction was called talent)
@johnflanagan9153
23 күн бұрын
In 2018, The Eagle's "performance s" at the LA Forum were recorded snd released on Blu Ray and cd; What was advertised as a "5.1" mix of DTS-HD "lossless" audio was actually a 4.1 mix when played back on a home theatre system. Why is this significant? The "center channel" is a dedicated speaker for dialogue snd vocals. On the Blu Ray of the Eagles "performance" it is silent...and there is a BIG reason for this; The Eagles, even before Glenn Frey's passing, have been using pre-recorded vocal tracks all the back to the snalog tape days! Henley, and this has been an open secret for years, pulls a " Roger waters," which is to say he's singing to to a backing track. This also applies to Walsh snd Schmidt, as they too, sing to a track. Thats why both the 2018 Blu Ray telease, AND and the 2004 "live in Australia" live releases drop the center channel. It would have exposed, through a channel dedicated to vocals snd dialogue, that the Eagles DO N Of T sing live. Sorry fans, but its the truth.
@58joana
6 ай бұрын
What a MAJOR deception!
@HumbleTrader001
6 ай бұрын
Class action lawsuit anyone?
@sevfan1
5 ай бұрын
@@HumbleTrader001 That would be awesome.
@skatertrev7
5 ай бұрын
@@HumbleTrader001Doubtful. So many major artists use vox ramps, synch sections and/or backing tracks with vocal doubles.
@alfching2499
5 ай бұрын
If you go to see old instead of new you get what your expensive seat ticket cost Old,I personally am 77 and the the Last time I see For example Paul McCartney was in 2003 at Earls Court and he was still pretty good then,but I would not pay at high cost to see any of these really ancient in bad voice relics anymore even at my age.I’d sooner see tribute groups.
@skatertrev7
5 ай бұрын
@@alfching2499 okay.
@maryvelneelemantenaya1966
Ай бұрын
In 1986 I went to a concert to see a musician that was famous in the 1960's at a small venue. The whole performance was PERFECT! And I literally said out loud, "Is it live or is it Memorex". Then the next year he came back to our town Convention center so we went to see him again. This time it appeared completely live and not jive? They also had a new popular band at the time open for them. Interestingly, I passed the drummer and guitarist in the hallway after the show and they asked if me and my friend wanted to come back to their hotel and hang out. So, we met them at the hotel restaurant and then the keyboardist showed up too. These guys were 20 years younger than the Famous front man (who was not there) with us. Then they asked us up stairs to party. So, we go upstairs and one of them knocks on a door and the new popular band was in there. So, were all hanging out and all of sudden one of guys from the opening band says to the backing band of the famous 60's singer.. "That's not right man. Nobody should be doing that crap". The other guy disagreed as if there was nothing wrong with it, as if it was cool... I was floored... He had just confirmed that I Knew their last years perfomance couldn't have been That perfect... So, it's been going on for A Long time...
@OLLIE-ILL
Ай бұрын
What band was it and did you hook up with anybody? It's been 40 years. You can tell us.
@maryvelneelemantenaya1966
Ай бұрын
I'd Never say whom he was. He's still alive and is an absolute ICON. He also wasn't present with us younger people and NO there were no hook ups... Especially after what was discussed, it pretty much put a damper over the encounter. We just got stoned and left a few hours later. Just partying doesn't mean an instant hookup. We we're partying with two bands in one room just talking.. That wasn't even the point of the story. The point was you pay to hear a LIVE performance not Memorex. And thankfully the other band stood firm on their own conviction.
@ronwoodhouse2896
5 ай бұрын
From all of us left who still care, thank you. The work you’re doing and the path you’ve taken will always be appreciated by people who love music.
@kevinphinney932
6 ай бұрын
This Is Brilliant. And you're right. The Eagles always prided themselves on their voices and harmonies, and they're wealthy enough to not have to resort to trickery and charge those preposterous prices to see them live - when they're not.
@E-BikingAdventures
6 ай бұрын
They are wealthy enough not to make asses of themselves too. But they all do. 70-80 year olds can't sing for sh!t.
@Jacques.dAnjou
5 ай бұрын
They are not wealthy enough in their own opinion. Once you smell the money, you'll want more. Them, not you lol
@wot4me2
5 ай бұрын
Sometimes ego and denial trump even wealth.
@niqwalshensemble9164
5 ай бұрын
It’s like they’re not even musicians anymore- just fraudsters. Why do it? They’ve totally tarnished their legacy.
@Mo_Ketchups
6 ай бұрын
Fil is not only a family treasure here, he’s an _international treasure!_ So glad we have ‘im! 🤩🤘
@RockTelevision-vv1im
2 ай бұрын
Great analysis, I bet it's been this way for years now.
@raythackston1960
5 ай бұрын
I am sure the Eagles and many other bands do not expect you to be able to do this with a live recording. You are the master.
@bélalugrisi
6 ай бұрын
Horrific to do this with the outrageous ticket prices they charge! Thanks Fil.
@TenementFunster.74
5 ай бұрын
I bumped into Don Henley and asked him about miming,he said he didn't,but i could tell by his Lyin' Eyes"
@davidforman6191
5 ай бұрын
Hoped you were going to say he opened his mouth but nothing came out
@liftedbythewind9002
5 ай бұрын
Ba-Doom…Ching!
@RollerCam
5 ай бұрын
But then he pulls up his bank account and gets a Peaceful Easy Feeling
@jackhunter2826
5 ай бұрын
Then when you tried to tell him about Fil's video and shame him for lying, you noticed that he was Already Gone 😅
@Daniel-vw7mw
5 ай бұрын
At least he is not desperado @@RollerCam
@chris-4566
Ай бұрын
The cat is well and truly out of the bag. Concert tickets for a top band like The Eagles are very expensive and I, for one, don’t want to pay good money to watch them miming. Scandalous!
@stevencurtis924
5 ай бұрын
All of us that have seen the Eagles live and marvelled at how it sounded 'just like the album', we now know why:(
@conniec7650
5 ай бұрын
The saddest part is that people spend an obscene amount of money on tickets to see these guys live!
@eliaskahila
5 ай бұрын
Actually no, its been live before. This mimic era is quite recent development.
@chuckschillingvideos
5 ай бұрын
And "just like the album" is just a different way of ripping the audience off. If I wanted to hear the album, I'd play the bloody album. When I go to see a band play, I want to hear the band's inspired performance, warts and all, clams and all, blown notes, etc. I want to hear singers reaching for notes and sometimes missing. I want to hear solos that are improvised and change from show to show. I want to see the drummer pushing things sometimes and pulling things back sometimes and see how the rest of the band responds. THAT is a live performance, not just recreating a studio recording which was labored over for weeks and weeks in a studio.
@hackermusic3355
5 ай бұрын
I saw the Eagles back in the mid 70s and the first quarter of the concert was so bad that my girlfriend asked me if I was sure that was actually the Eagles...but at least I'm sure it was live. BTW they did get much better as the concert went along.
@davidfaustino4476
5 ай бұрын
@@eliaskahilaif you think the mimic thing is new you weren't paying attention when we called it "lip syncing". This has been going on for decades my dude.
@docsavage8640
6 ай бұрын
"The Eagles" haven't existed in years. This is a tribute band featuring Don Henley.
@MarcosElMalo2
5 ай бұрын
The Linda Ronstadt cover was always better than Henley’s version.
@pooterdudenmo
5 ай бұрын
A tribute band featuring a doctored recording of Don Henley.
@dcazador7401
6 ай бұрын
This is one reason I don’t go to see the old megastars, especially if the band has lost members. I’d rather not pay big $ to see a sub-par copy of former glory, when I can listen to the recordings for free. Thanks for telling the truth. Maybe someday the industry will listen to you!
@borntobewild9056
5 ай бұрын
There are only 3 true Eagles members left and only 1 still performing as the Eagles, 1 who got kicked out, Felder, 1 who left, Bernie Leaden ...who the fuch is dumb enough to pay to see a fake version? Walsh and Schmidt aren't even true members, just hired guns. If Henley wants to perform on his own like Felder, thats fine....but don't call yourselve the Eagles...you are not!
@rodneygoodwin3956
20 күн бұрын
I always regretted until now, not seeing the Eagles live, after hearing Don compare their fees with energy CEO's back during hell freezes over, and I've seen many legacy artists I respect and paid the same fee.
@peacefulpossum2438
6 ай бұрын
I appreciate everything you do, Fil. We know the music business is shady, but most fans don’t expect to be deceived by their favorite bands. When they pay hundreds of dollars to see a live performance, they should get a live performance. This is shameful. Thank you for bringing it to light.
@joeshoe6184
5 ай бұрын
I'm a professional stage hand, alot of bands do this kind of stuff, especially legacy acts. It's just the sad truth.
@goopah
5 ай бұрын
Yeah, this video really makes me appreciate more all of the not-so-good, but REAL performances I've seen in my life, going all the way back to the 1970s.
@M-zd8su
5 ай бұрын
When you said hundreds of dollars, you really meant thousands of dollars, especially to be up close for an Eagles concert. This is outright FRAUD! Screw Don. Well, he will probably sue me for that statement :--)
@billfly2186
6 ай бұрын
Just let Vince Gill do all the singing. He still has it.
@jonathanjordan315
5 ай бұрын
I saw the Eagles live in 2013, and noticed how “perfect” Don’s voice sounded for a man of his age. Now I understand why.
@RideAcrossTheRiver
4 ай бұрын
Meanwhile, John Fogerty is always _au naturel_ and proud of it.
@angiec1960too
26 күн бұрын
Jimmy Buffett would have told you in a heartbeat that he never sings his songs the same way twice. Seen him in concert many, many, many times and each one was a little different. He sounded live the exact way he did on his records. Exactly; well, maybe even better. Each concert was really just a laid back get together of fans swaying (fins to the left, you know), laughing and listening to his stories. He was a master storyteller and was so respectful to his fans. That man always had a smile on his face - always. Gosh, I still can't believe he's gone...
@bossdog1480
5 ай бұрын
WOW, Fil this has blown up on the internet. It's everywhere now. You're getting quoted on it. 😁😁
@jimdep6542
Ай бұрын
It's amazing to me that live music has sunk to the level of career politicians. .....getting paid to do a job, when you are not doing it, but lead the public on to believing you are. Great job ,Fil ! The TRUTH is what matters.
@krasht1
6 ай бұрын
Back in the day, when you went to a live performance and the band sounded as good as, (or better) their studio recordings it meant that it was one of the best concerts you ever saw ! Now it means you are being lied to for exorbitant ticket prices ! The best concerts nowadays are in smaller venues that dont have the resources to pull this kind of thing off.
@splitimage137.
6 ай бұрын
We are getting so old...
@DianeAvila-bv4fc
6 ай бұрын
If you have grandkids share your music with them so it doesn’t get lost or forgotten. My 18 year old granddaughter loves it plus I’m leaving her with memories. If you don’t have grandkids share it with anyone young that is willing to listen
@anthonyclarke5579
5 ай бұрын
Or by cover bands who do the songs faithfully.
@loriholloway5866
5 ай бұрын
Don Henley is probably the most litigious person in the entertainment industry. Expect to hear from his attorneys. I think you could win in a court battle but who wants the legal fees or the headache? I don't see this as malicious, just presenting facts. Don won't. Wishing you the best. I wanna hear YOU perform Fil but my searches get me nothing! Long time fan from Texas. Never stop doing what you do!! You're FAR more than an amazing artist. Brainiac!! 🎉❤
@lauraallen55
5 ай бұрын
Fii has several videos on his channel of him singing cover songs.
@victoryak86
5 ай бұрын
What would he sue him for? I don’t think he would because there’s this little thing called “discovery.” On which both sides are given access to whatever evidence, for or against etc. it would likely be a can of worms they wouldn’t want to open at least that’s my hunch. In a court case, much more could come out that would show this is the tip of the iceberg.
@kjelleriksson2793
5 ай бұрын
Also Neil Young.
@goopah
5 ай бұрын
Fil was on one of those big talent TV shows a while back, and I watched it on KZitem, but now I can't remember the name of the show.
@lauraallen55
5 ай бұрын
@@goopah X Factor UK :)
@kcvinwehoLA
6 ай бұрын
Some years ago, I attended a concert by a band that had a set list of songs requiring great vocal range. They were on their second singer, who’d been with them about a decade. During the concert, I realised to my shock that the singer was miming. A few months later, the story broke that the singer couldn’t hit the notes anymore, and was miming to an older performance recording. The band, whose lead guitarist is notorious for being extremely controlling, claimed they never knew about the miming, fired the singer & got a new one. I’ve never gone to see them again, as my trust in them is completely ruined. And now, the Eagles, as well. This is a complete betrayal of the public, and a cheap money grab. Disgusting.
@bluesnowbelle7625
6 ай бұрын
Controlling guitarist... 🤔Sounds like Mr B🤭
@daisyhagen2
6 ай бұрын
Who is Mr. B?
@docsavage8640
6 ай бұрын
Why would anyone pay good money to see the Eagles 45 years past their prime anyway?
@ralphmuller6040
6 ай бұрын
How could that nameless band deny knowing about the use of a lead vocal track - they'd have to be playing to a click!
@BrianMcKnight68
6 ай бұрын
Journey - the Steve Augeri ‘tapegate’. Neal denied it, but it was true ☹️
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