“A necessary evil” got the exact same vibes “some of you may die, but that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make”
@yolocalfurry
Жыл бұрын
bro what is yo pfp💀
@yung.alchemist
Жыл бұрын
yeah and its the people that say shit like that that are the ones that deserve to no longer be here. They are parasites and deserve nothing but the worst the world has to offer, but instead they are the richest among us. They are just people tho, and the quicker the working class realizes that there are significantly more of us then them, and they should fear us and not the other way around, the quicker the world is changed for the better of all of us
@virtues487
Жыл бұрын
@@yolocalfurryI don't know but I'm hard at work
@Itmeb
Жыл бұрын
@@yolocalfurryBro what is yo username
@Valcuda
Жыл бұрын
Literally just "Ends justify the means"
@jaywan5553
Жыл бұрын
When I was a child - around 35 yrs ago - I lived in a town that was dominated by one industry. Workers went on strike and the company tried the same tactic - wait them out until they have no choice but return. The strike went for 8 mths and it was a miserable time. The whole town and all the surrounding towns were on the verge of poverty. All our electricity was cut off, no one could afford food, rent wasn’t paid but everyone refused to move. I remember Christmas - no gifts for anyone. The fire truck went around handing out lollies and we thought it was great. The workers stuck together, refused to budge and won. They stuck it out and brought the company to their knees. The industry is now and continues to be one of the highest paid industries with the most benefits. The ones working in it now probably have no idea what sacrifices were made to give them what they have. Big companies are nothing without their workers - power in numbers. Stick together.
@rnk7555
Жыл бұрын
This is not the same, the corporations are crazy on using korea and other places (UK is forcing to continue productions of things filmed there) to bypass the unions
@erreyakendo8290
Жыл бұрын
@jaywan5553 Today technology, Company can create a fake social viral showing something absolute in their favor and common folks will trust. This what happen recently in Brazil, São Paulo. Here almost all food deliverer use motorcycle to evade the car traffics and it's pay by deliver not by work time, so going more quick (but take way more dangerous accidents) get more jobs and get more money, but usually work way more then 8 hours and can't make the end of the month. Okay, back on this strike, there was a leader called Paulo Galo and he has a good knowledge of class consciousness even without a academic formation. So he organize people to make a strike against Ifood. What Ifood did? They hire a big company focus in advertisement, marketing and comunication to demobilize, mainly give Paulo Galo and other delivers as con-man or opportunist politicians. This company what make was hired some actors to give impression they are delivers, saying that Galo was a wrong, that IFood take care of employees, etc...then used contact with different pages to share this videos, beside using bots to gain engagement and eventually fall in social media of all delivers, common people, etc... Since Galo doesn't have this influence, soon people start to think this strike was only a opportunist that will affect every "lawful delivers" and make delivers people to attack each other. This end the strike before become a headache and only discovery after some leak one or two years after strike happen. Today era, unfortunately big corp always win. IFood still very used, delivers people suffer a accident and become disable or die and no one give a F for the family. Capitalism won, now wait to see when we all die of hungry and this is why many adults before 30 years is "lazy", try to be a positive person when you see everything for the future dying and make you feel useless to change.
@bmetalfish3928
Жыл бұрын
As someone who dislikes both the writers and the executives, I dont think the writers have the sort of willpower, dedication and community strength yours had. Dont forget, this current generation of writers, ideology and all, where implemented due to a previous writer strike that occurred. If you ever wondered why the years surrounding breaking bad where called a golden age of tv at the time, It's because the scripts where written by smaller writing teams. The anxiety driven workplace culture they started in was one engineered to make them compliant to executives. These people aren't 90's small town factory workers. They are tools and scabs who realize their use is coming to an end.
@Redwolf6056
Жыл бұрын
@@bmetalfish3928 You don't even know what industry OP was talking about lol. You contradict yourself about the previous strike and this supposed "TV Golden age". You also called the writers who are striking....scabs? The strikers. The people literally on strike right now. Incoherent ramblings from a bitter middle aged weirdo.
@MikePods
Жыл бұрын
@@bmetalfish3928you dislike the writers in this circumstance? On an equal playing field with the corporations? What a scummy, disgusting position. There is one party clearly in the wrong. It takes just one brain cell to see this
@emeraldninjalink6312
Жыл бұрын
The actors are the heart and the writers are the soul of the film industry, and the fact that the studios are trying to screw both of them is shameful and just pure villainous.
@2265Hello
Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget visual artists man they have also been dealing with this shit it’s gotten especially worse with AI
@emeraldninjalink6312
Жыл бұрын
@@2265Hello you right man, I can’t believe I forgot about them! They are so important to the industry ever since the first animated feature film! And that makes the feeling worse that all the important parts of film is being screwed just like that.
@nickm5419
Жыл бұрын
@@2265Helloit's not even true AI anyway, it doesn't have Rampancy/degradation
@2265Hello
Жыл бұрын
@@emeraldninjalink6312 depends on what you mean by AI. If you mean sentience robots iirc that’s AGI. Iirc AI scientifically refers to machines and software that can imitate human activity.
@aaronlandry3934
Жыл бұрын
AI just seems like the inevitable here. I’m for it. AI Seinfeld was good until it ended. I’d like to see an AI actually generate a show professionally
@DogsWithPurpose
Жыл бұрын
I was about to mention his lack of experience for criticizing Hollywood, but then I remembered his prominent role in being a District 8 hospital worker and instantly changed my mind
@hibuddy2768
Жыл бұрын
How could you possibly even forget the role he played as District 8 Hospital Helper??
@VermilionMage
Жыл бұрын
That Oscar belongs to him. This is yet one more reason Hollywood is corrupt.
@redtube8667
Жыл бұрын
I've never heard this before, like was he actually in the hunger games? It was such a shit movie I haven't seen it in years
@chlover8
Жыл бұрын
@@redtube8667he was a background character
@michaellane5381
Жыл бұрын
Into what?
@EhYoAdrian
Жыл бұрын
I must admit, Charlie's role as district 8 hospital worker in The Hunger Games really saved the series. Jennifer Lawrence was just finding her footing whereas Charlie was Picasso and that movie was his paintbrush. Truly, I think this performance puts him up there in the top 5 actors of all time, he really made district 8 hospital guy a household name akin to Spiderman and Harry Potter. Truly a marvel to see such god of their craft who is humble enough to talk to us regular folk on KZitem. Praise be to you Charlie, for your incredible acting prowess that put Hollywood on the map in the first place
@LuisSierra42
Жыл бұрын
Truly one of the performances of all time
@Brady_Da_GOAT
Жыл бұрын
A moment that will last a lifetime. I now make it a Thanksgiving event, every year, to watch his performance with my family and show them what a revolutionary man has done to the movie industry. Tugs at my heart to know we still have a man of vision still left in this cruel world.
@EhYoAdrian
Жыл бұрын
@@Brady_Da_GOAT 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Abstraktify
Жыл бұрын
Comments like this are why I scroll
@KeyboardTarantula
Жыл бұрын
based.
@remenir97
Жыл бұрын
Remember, bad work environments will result in bad productivity and bad results. Just like how grinding hours ruined a lot of good potential video games, this problem is also ruining a lot of TV shows and movies.
@akbarkhan656
Жыл бұрын
Yeah the ET game is infamous for that, you'd think they'd learn by now.
@WarGhoulKharas
Жыл бұрын
You know, it could also be that they're shit at their job. She-Hulk, Witcher, Resident Evil series, Halo series, Obi-Wan series, Star Trek Discovery, the new Twilight Zone, et cetera. How many examples do you need?
@Hauntaku
Жыл бұрын
This is why Wreck-it Ralph: Ralph Breaks the Internet was a flop. The writing sucked because the writer wasn't allowed to take time off to clear their mind of the stressful break-up that they went through. That and the fact that disney interfered with the movie's development.
@alexlopez5800
Жыл бұрын
And people's lives too
@AD-lh3jk
Жыл бұрын
Another part isn’t just overtime (like crunch in game dev), but also rushed product development When I hear or read the news in some productions where the timeline from writing to principal photography/shooting is less than 2 years for a fairly complicated concept (with streaming services like Netflix usually being the most guilty), it becomes apparent why it might fail in execution regardless of the supposedly decent budget. When you don’t give enough literal time in writing to draft & rewrite, the end product becomes more at risk at being undercooked Then there’s the crisis of writers’ career path, a topic covered in a fairly well researched video essay here on YT by the channel The Escapist (titled The Streaming Age Has a Writers Problem). It’s a phenomenon where the newest industry of streaming platforms doesn’t have an employment ecosystem that helps inexperienced/new writers climb the ladder and work with more experienced ones to hone their skill further. And as there are increasingly more demand for new shows than there are the supply of experienced writers, the project ends up being written by less experienced people within a relatively short timeframe It echoes a somewhat similar problem in CGI & VFX, where loads of studios are opting for cheaper artists for cost cutting, yet due to their less experience, might end up requiring reworks by more experienced pros down the line due to the WIP not passing standard. Except for the case of writing, it’s *much harder to rework a project*
@TheKobraKye
Жыл бұрын
As someone in the Industry who works in the camera department, it has been rough. The crew I know are being stretched thin. So many folks are losing their apartments, houses, and not able to sustain their families. It’s been the biggest drought I’ve seen in a long while. We are just trying to keep our careers going, living day by day, while executives are saying there is no money, while they’re at billionaire club parties…ok… Thank you Charlie for making a video about this. You have no idea how much this means. I hope this brings light and change.
@noon2230
Жыл бұрын
Broke boy
@lardcartthegod
Жыл бұрын
@@noon2230that's cold, dude
@zerg6001
Жыл бұрын
So what your saying is, now you know what it’s like to be a normal person?
@CultofHappwer
Жыл бұрын
@@zerg6001how is working a shitty job not living like a normal person
@isabellaannunciation168
Жыл бұрын
how do we support you and those of WGA in this time??
@feasibilyheretical
Жыл бұрын
As someone whose dream is to be a writer, it is really unsettling the direction things are going for this art, especially with A.I. and what not.
@dannylo5875
Жыл бұрын
It's gonna destroy all these versions of Hollywood...all the way to Bollywood and other places...and China tinsel town and maybe Paris town and maybe even Florencent lights make them turn dull and sull
@TheMuffinManIsHappy
Жыл бұрын
Don’t worry, AI right now is just a word blender: It can’t come up with its own unique plot points, can’t make symbolism, no sense of pacing, the dialogue is incredibly lacking (its weakest point), and no emotional potency (because it can’t relate to the human experience, so nothing seems personal). An AI has no independent creativity or style (yet, can’t imagine it’d be anytime soon though), so artists are safe for now. However, coders and number-crunching positions will probably be the first to fall to AI.
@dannylo5875
Жыл бұрын
@@TheMuffinManIsHappy too late. I just saw a new technology in AI that avoids that while making videos. Bye bye baby cause you are wrong. So very wrong. And so confident that you can outsmart or run the machine but you are not. If you're not in the AI industry. You have no right to say anything because I keep ahead of developments happening in real time by companies from around the world. I say you have to take a good guess or look at the mirror...
@TheMuffinManIsHappy
Жыл бұрын
@dannylo5875 Nice movie villain monologue, dork. Artists aren’t going anywhere.
@dannylo5875
Жыл бұрын
@@TheMuffinManIsHappy Indifference to the changes that are coming. You don't know...careless of what you say. Your suppository idea for the future is invalid. Bye.
@alexgolden8036
Жыл бұрын
“Until union members start losing their apartments and losing their houses” The fact that an actual human being said this about other actual human beings is absolutely disgusting.
@akedus44
Жыл бұрын
Not to mention that they have the audacity to call it a "necessary evil" on top of that.
@500ccRabbit
Жыл бұрын
That's what happens when contracts fall through. Nobody wants that to happen but these people are pricing themselves out of the labor market.
@Mrhellslayerz
Жыл бұрын
And the fact that a shockingly high amount of brainlets are actually agreeing with that take is enough to obliterate whatever good will I had left for the world.
@ambatuBUHSURK
Жыл бұрын
that was disgusting. pirate the hell out of their movies.
@pingpong5877
Жыл бұрын
They're communists. They disguise their propaganda by trying to fight for "workers rights."
@barsni4779
Жыл бұрын
I honestly thought integrating AI into writing scripts was a joke.
@akira8393
Жыл бұрын
i mean people interigating AI into vtubers... it was never a joke that was just a reference
@ANPC-pi9vu
Жыл бұрын
AI can write better than what the writers on most shows put out these days.
@onomatopoeia300
Жыл бұрын
@@ANPC-pi9vudamn, didn’t even watch the video lol. Most of the time (especially when scripts look like shit), writers don’t have much say in what goes in the script. It basically dumbs down to what the higher ups want. When that happens, you get 💩
@tatadz3571
Жыл бұрын
it was a joke
@TheMuffinManIsHappy
Жыл бұрын
@ANPC-pi9vu Good things come out all the time, numb nuts. Barry and Succession - two of the best shows ever - just finished this year. And AI is nowhere close to taking away artist’s jobs. It’ll actually be coders and number-crunches first; hope artists show them more empathy than you corporate sharecropping clowns.
@plicketyplunk
Жыл бұрын
As to the reason why execs don't want to play fair with workers is something I heard from "pharma bro". When asked why he raised the price of a formly inexpensive drug to dizzying heights. They said he has all the money he could ever need or want he said "yes i have all the money I want, Ijust dont want you to have any". That has stuck in my mind for years now.
@pyramear5414
Жыл бұрын
Monsters in suits.
@nevaehhamilton3493
Жыл бұрын
Just go to the government for this.
@gaarakabuto1
Жыл бұрын
Something that people overlook a lot on the whole situation is how little writers are actually valued and how badly that affects both their working environment and outcome and the product's outcome and performance. Only about 10% of the writers right now have the right to have decisions about their script decided by them. Most of the times how writers are used is by demanding specific things, like a very specific (and safe) plot, specific jokes, specific references and pretty much they are given key components that they didn't choose and they are just there to stitch them together. That's not what a writer's job should be.
@under-da-sea2835
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, then they get most of the blame if everything doesn't turn out right! They're literally scapegoats!!
@ronswanson1410
Жыл бұрын
That's part of the risk. Anyone can decide they want to be a writer. People producing successful shows have a bottom line too... So you either play the game and find love or get none at all at the end of the day
@gaarakabuto1
Жыл бұрын
@@ronswanson1410 Getting your job vandalised is not part of the risk, it's a result of a failing industry. It's the same concept as the fiasco that happened in the early 2000s where companies were hiring engineers for jobs, for engineers just to find out that their only purpose was to sign off papers for taking the responsibilities on constructions and projects they never even saw or were part of. Or similarly what happened in northern Europe were they were demanding from engineers and architects to get things done that were clearly not legal by any means necessary.
@ExeErdna
Жыл бұрын
That's the problem of not having just 1 writer they have a ROOM full of them so one person's ideal can clash with the rest of the room. So in part is their fault since they've gotten used to this writing method where they know it's ruining too many modern products. Since some of those writers are in the ears of non creatives that think dumbshit is cool. Like it wasn't actively mocked since they were younger. We don't need more "Poochie the Rockin Dog" in content because a bunch of burnouts saw a tiktok that thought that was "hip"
@gaarakabuto1
Жыл бұрын
@@ExeErdna The only person that clashes and puts down writer's ideas is the higher ups. I don't think you understand the miniscule authority the average writer has over their own writing. Again as I said 90% of the times when a writer gets a job the bullet point of the show or the movie script are already there and he is asked to stitch them together. Most of the time there is a whole fight for a writer to get the moral they want out of a movie or a show. If anything most of the time the lead actor has more authority over the script than a writer does.
@mrdavies09
Жыл бұрын
These past few years I've noticed that people value their own entertainment more than the well being of the ones that provide it. For example Redbull Hardline (a mountain biking event) was cancelled this weekend due to poor weather with many riders stating that conditions were dangerous. A fair proportion of the comments I've seen about this cancellation were complaining that the riders should shut up and just ride because they've been waiting to see this event. I really don't understand people these days.
@erreyakendo8290
Жыл бұрын
@mrdaives09 It's easy to understand this people, if this doesn't affect then, suck to suck. If this affect then all world is against his will. Just take empathy out and increase the selfish interest.
@user-jpnippon1n
Жыл бұрын
With something like something like monster jam, nascar, demolition derby, and in this case motorcross , where half of the fun to watch is the danger I can see both sides.
@stan8479
Жыл бұрын
@@user-jpnippon1nA lot of people are not willing to risk their own lives for the entertainment of others, and the fact that you think people DEMANDING others to do exactly that have a “side” to regard at all is concerning.
@user-jpnippon1n
Жыл бұрын
@@stan8479 Reward comes with risk. If you can't handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
@stan8479
Жыл бұрын
@@user-jpnippon1n Callous.
@evanpadilla6840
Жыл бұрын
So outright insane. Writers go on strike to show how important they are to literally all the works people love and the population only thinks "me me me". Like the world just doesnt know how to give other people the appreciation they deserve.
@darkness445567
Жыл бұрын
@@Bfkcjscbsnjcbrainless take. Probably bc he doesn't give a shit.
@500ccRabbit
Жыл бұрын
Screw the writers, they have a fun job and are easily replaceable. The writers also ruined a lot of our favorite franchises over the years. They can get bent.
@trequor
Жыл бұрын
The insane part is that you've bought this lie hook, line, and sinker. The writers strike only proves how non-essential they are and how economically deluded they are. The industry is shrinking right now. Movies as a whole are making substantially less money than they were five years ago. Streaming is less lucrative than TV. Yet these braindead unionists think it's appropriate to ask for MORE writers and MORE money. As if hiring 8 writers per episode at $20,000 is feasible for an industry that cant survive on 2.
@spinnyspins9135
Жыл бұрын
@GuineaPigsRule900 They don't have a """"fun"""" environment, the environment is actually incredibly toxic and it's not a holding hands group.
@spinnyspins9135
Жыл бұрын
@trequor Exvept the industry absolutely can afford it and it's definitely well worth what the writers are worth. The idea that you should be able to stress peoppe put, have them work long hours with short deadlines, and have full creative control over someone else's creativity that already has to follow certain guidelines is insane
@aliciaflood2908
Жыл бұрын
It’s never considered that bad screenwriting happens not because of a writer’s lack of talent but perhaps being underpaid, overworked, with studios and directors giving bad ideas for the writers to somehow have to work with plus editing and such, and generally being used as a crank for soulless content, can affect the finished product. Perhaps if we gave writers more credit, more money, more time, and generally treated them as the creative visionaries they are like we do actors and directors, we would see writing improve in our favorite shows and movies. Siding with the producers on this GUARANTEES that stories will continue to suffer as the writers will never be given the tools they need to make the stories we want to see
@brianmurphy6480
Жыл бұрын
How quaint. You're assuming the writers themselves are "artistic visionaries" and it's everyone else suffering from delusions of adequacy. The fact is, writing is like steelwork: it isn't for everyone. If you can't produce quality work in a timely manner, under stressful conditions, to an exacting standard under people who are dedicated perfectionists...then guess what? You find a different line of work. Sorry, kid. Not all dreams survive the light of day. 🤷♂️ Note: I say this as a published writer myself. I was good at world-building and scene crafting, but my plots sucked and my characters were even worse. I wasn't being oppressed, I wasn't being held down by the Hollywood version of "The Man"; the simple fact was that I wasn't good enough to make it. Think about it: we have classics from Greek, Roman, Elizabethan times not because there were only a few people who knew how to read, write, or even TALK to a person who could, but because only the best survived to be copied and copied and copied, passed down to succeeding generations. Just because you can string words together on a piece of paper, doesn't mean you know Jack Shit about writing a good STORY.
@Jensonator10
Жыл бұрын
@@brianmurphy6480how’s the boot taste
@grunkleg.29691
Жыл бұрын
@@brianmurphy64801) You really just said "Sorry, kid" in a comment I assume was meant to be taken seriously 2) Screenwriting is a very different beast compared to writing something like a book 3) What books have you even written Mr. Authorman? Are they regarded as good books?
@thermalx796
Жыл бұрын
@@brianmurphy6480when someone that’s out of touch tells you write something because it’s what’s always worked before, you’re not gonna make a good movie
@steamtasticvagabond474
Жыл бұрын
In all fairness, while I agree with everything you’re saying, some writers do just suck
@gamermoviedude5533
Жыл бұрын
An argument I’ve seen, even in this comment section, is that “writing has gotten bad over the years so why should they get paid more?” A lot of people don’t realize just how much of these movies and shows, especially the big name ones, are “written” by the producers sometimes. As in, they almost have a checklist of what needs to happen in the stories because they believe they know what the audience wants, or what they want to be more widely appealing. Plus the very little time they give writers to actually produce, it shouldn’t be a surprise that the quality is less than. It’s like any other industry where management pressures employees and they just can’t perform to highest quality. Worse is when the product is released, the studios are somehow shocked it didn’t go over well, they back up and the writers get all the blame (just like right now). Sure, some things are just written poorly, but I’d rather have a writer’s artistic expression that didn’t pan out well than a writer who gets fucked by a studio and an AI and is told to deal with it by the executives and public opinion because they can’t do what they actually want to do for a living.
@that_heretic
Жыл бұрын
Yep. The lion's share of writers are workers responding to incentives. If you're in the service sector and your boss tells you to mop the floor, even though your co-worker did 30 minutes ago, you mop the floor. Your boss is the idiot in that equation, not you.
@lukebytes5366
Жыл бұрын
I'd love for someone to explain how mcu phase 4 was led by the writers.
@jeronimo196
Жыл бұрын
So, they were just following orders? Maybe ChatGPT should replace them, then. In a few iterations, we wouldn't even notice the difference.
@jaiell2049
Жыл бұрын
@@jeronimo196 well what are they supposed to do? Quit on the spot if their bosses tell them to do something they don't want to?
@jeronimo196
Жыл бұрын
@@jaiell2049 yes. It's called "creative differences", some creatives still quit over them. Or if they are that hungry, sign the script as "Alan Smithee" or some other pseudonym. Otherwise they are accepting ownership of the garbage they've just produced. @lukebytes5366 "I'd love for someone to explain how mcu phase 4 was led by the writers." - If it wasn't led by the writers, it was not opposed either. Just look at the blue haired writer of She-Hulk Cody Ziglar bemoaning his $396 residuals, and tell me she was opposed to the messaging of that "show".
@Trident_Gaming03
Жыл бұрын
The fact the strike is escalating is NOT a bad thing The fact the strike is escalating is a GREAT thing The fact the strike is escalating should continue until these people get justice
@Hauntaku
Жыл бұрын
I hope they ransack walmart.
@just1rando
Жыл бұрын
@@Hauntaku yeah walmart is mid, Targets better
@kyuokuo
Жыл бұрын
@@Hauntaku gotta do some riots too! Can't be a good union strike without violence!
@familyvalue5588
Жыл бұрын
A little upset the Writers strike is getting more attention then the railroad workers strike got though...
@TRG_R17
Жыл бұрын
Reply 5,
@TodosLocosOfficial
Жыл бұрын
The fact they think they can just starve out the writers makes it clear just how out of touch they are. They're ALREADY starving, they ALREADY can't afford rent, why the hell do you think they're striking?
@lunarlunar-night-719
Жыл бұрын
The fact that under every single comment on this video people are saying "well AI can write better anyways" and other shit like that. Sure, there have been bad writers lately, but the full production crew can make the writers change their writing to what *they* want. And i find it hatd to belive there hasnt been a single good show or movie within the past 6-8 years. Thats hard to believe.
@dalekrenegade2596
Жыл бұрын
They are stuck in the "anti-wokes" bubble.
@ronfoster6963
Жыл бұрын
Something very important not mentioned in this video is why writers aren't being paid enough anymore. During the TV era, writers were paid for each time the episodes they wrote aired. But they are not getting bonuses for how much the shows they write are streamed! If the old payment system was adapted to the new content delivery system, writers would undoubtedly get paid more overall. But you would also see terrible shows pay writers less. One of their main demands is getting paid based on how much their episode is streamed, and calling it a "necessary evil" to not do this is so gross its funny.
@blackjackjester
Жыл бұрын
But why should they get residuals at all? They are paid a salary to write a script. Their salary is the compensation for producing the writing. What the company then does with that has no bearing on them. It works this way in every other industry, so writers are among an incredibly privileged class to get anything other than salary for their work.
@namelessbacon9483
Жыл бұрын
@blackjackjester I wouldn't call it privileged when that was the norm during the cable Era. Why wouldn't that carry over to streaming when that's how most everyone consumes content now post 2015-2023? I'm not an expert in this field but I keep seeing that they average about $16 per hour with long days like 15hrs. At that rate it why not just work at McDonald's since you can turn off your brain and grill meat on a stove and still barely be able to pay your bills. It would be easier than having the stress of being the creative team behind a slow succeeding or failing based on your material
@hanifarroisimukhlis5989
Жыл бұрын
@@blackjackjester Residuals are basically royalty but for writers. Please say your exact comment again, but to book authors, musicians, or actors. I bet you won't last long before being yelled at.
@chaklee435
Жыл бұрын
@@blackjackjester Bad take. It's not a privilege to get non-salary compensation. Or every restaurant server in America is privileged because they get paid in tips
@Mrhellslayerz
Жыл бұрын
@@blackjackjesterSaying that a company is 100% privileged to the hard earned profits of their workers is a real privileged thing to say mate.
@AGrouch
Жыл бұрын
This isn’t just Hollywood, it’s common place with multinational corporations. They are meant to be as coldly efficient as possible. The only reason why companies might be generous to employees is because when they evaluate cost/expenses it’s cheaper to raise the pay or promote certain workers due to the quality/quantity of their work rather than replace them. If it was cheaper to replace them they would, 100%. Large companies are basically able to lower wages because they can crush unions. Unions were the greatest thing to happen to workers and companies know this, which is why most in the US are vehemently opposed to them. A big reason companies can crush unions is because the cost of living is so high and there are people willing to work for less so positions can be filled. The only advantage we have as workers or content creators is in numbers but the government/media/powers that be keep us divided so we cannot stand as a unit against the real enemies to the issue of wealth distribution. There is no reason that anybody working a full time job in the US shouldn’t be able to have access to shelter, food, water and medical services.
@rudysmith1552
Жыл бұрын
The number one way to Crush a Union is to make a work place multi-ethnic.
@NoName......
Жыл бұрын
They can only crush unions if the unions don't fight back. Have you ever heard of this thing called "revolution"?
@finncatwillhelm2457
Жыл бұрын
Imma be honest if this shit doesn't get better I'll just end it tbh.
@Hauntaku
Жыл бұрын
We need more people like Al Capone
@lockednloaded9867
Жыл бұрын
Unions are dogsh*t.
@ygthemoth9425
Жыл бұрын
A massive thing to note here is the abysmal precedent this sets: The American film industry is one of the revenue-heaviest and most well known in the world. If the execs there get away with this, this will immediately make a myriad of other corporations consider similar “cost cutting.”
@akira8393
Жыл бұрын
they already doing that, with people that work in the tech industries.
@Nerdtendo6366
Жыл бұрын
Hollywood was never the same after Charlie left the industry
@nifeshoyinka4336
Жыл бұрын
Real
@lildeezn
Жыл бұрын
they should have never given him the boot off his role in hunger games 😔
@BestOfAnimalss
Жыл бұрын
Ok
@Relcilisity_Official
Жыл бұрын
Here before this blows up
@Svol09
Жыл бұрын
Yea, Charlie Sheen was awesome.
@Arrusoh
Жыл бұрын
I have seen people go into full on rants on the internet saying things like Writers, Game Devs, Artists, ect. shouldn't get paid because it's a hobby. So people being against the writers doesn't surprise me at all. Also just because someone is creating something that is a hobby to another person. it doesn't mean the creation process is a hobby for them. From the hell I hear game devs go through, I wouldn't be surprised is many of them don't find any joy in it anymore
@Hauntaku
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's tough being a gamedev. I'm trying to build a farming RPG which takes a lot outta me
@karthis5911
Жыл бұрын
People saying that are insane to me. While I disagree with the strike as most of their asks are pure dogshit (funny how Charly ignored all their takes huh.), I do think these jobs should be paid well when they actually make valuable products.
@adrianjuarez1162
Жыл бұрын
@@karthis5911it’s a lose lose time where In Charlie made a video about why is every movie flopping and it’s because of Hollywood and writers and bloated budgets the way these movies are that’s not gonna stop with this strike get ready for more remakes with movies that are unoriginal but hey the writers got paid more right?
@doravee
Жыл бұрын
@@karthis5911”Valuable”? What does that even mean? By whose standards? Studios only care about making money.
@kylespevak6781
Жыл бұрын
Imagine consuming media all day, then ranting how they shouldn't be paid 😂
@silverflight01
Жыл бұрын
I recently learned that sometimes, bad writing isn't the writers' fault, but the fault of meddling from higher-ups. Why even let them meddle?
@accuratememin
Жыл бұрын
It's not "letting them meddle", you have to remember that it's their _boss_ and they get to do almost whatever they want, and if they're opposed, they can just fire you. I think a lot of writers are afraid of being fired because they need the scraps of money, so they're forced to piece together the bullshit the higher-ups make, and by proxy, eat the blame for it all. I'm not a writer nor am I experienced at all in the field but it seems like a likely reason why. The strike seems to be the case where they all say "No" to the bosses so good for them, but, as we're seeing, the higher-ups are striking cruelty with "union members start losing their apartments and losing their houses."
@brucehc4975
Жыл бұрын
"Some of you may die, but that is a sacrifice I am willing to make" - Hollywood to Hollywood
@erreyakendo8290
Жыл бұрын
@brucech4975 It's more "I will take everyone with me, start with you" - Big Corp to Hollywood.
@ct5625
Жыл бұрын
The funniest thing about this is that the evil execs have completely misjudged the audience. They expected us all to whine about the "privileged elites of Hollywood", being the actors, when it seems to me almost 99% of the public understands exactly what's happening, we understand that those privileged (and ignorant, arrogant and greedy) elites are the execs and studios. I can wait for Deadpool 3, that way I know there will actually be a Deadpool 4 worth watching and that the actors in it are actually being paid.
@_yaseen
Жыл бұрын
The actors are getting paid, it's the writers that are getting shafted
@UMADBRO64
Жыл бұрын
Damn bro that's crazy. Have you tried getting off of Twitter though? Because nobody watching fucking anything of the past 5 or so years, clearly says something different about the quality of movies and shows being put out by Hollywood.
@jimmythe-gent
Жыл бұрын
He says he can't believe how people could side with the guy making 20 mil a year... but maybe to some people, money doesn't enter the equation. Either your argument is good, or it isnt... How much you're making should be irrelevant. Now obv he'd look like a hypocrit calling them greedy, but that doesn't change the veracity of the argument itself
@_yaseen
Жыл бұрын
@@jimmythe-gent What's your point? This entire strike is about getting a fair wage, of course money is a part of the equation
@jimmythe-gent
Жыл бұрын
@@_yaseen lol... money in relation to how much they negotiate their contract for -not how much your boss makes. The fact that he makes X amount of dollars shouldn't change your opinion. Its irrelevant. The way he phrased it is just character assassination, as if he must be the bad guy because he's rich. Now if you want to argue that his salary is unusually high for someone of his position and he's siphoning off capital at the expense of the writers... then fine.
@KindaKindaa
Жыл бұрын
As someone who’s mum went on strike just a couple of months ago, you definitely can feel the financial strain. She was getting strike pay of $300 a week (which isn’t a lot when you have 4 children to take care of) and they didn’t even pay her half the time. They did get a deal, however it was more on the terms of the schools side (yes my mum is an EPA at a school) because it was nearly summer break at this point, so the school had a plan just like Hollywood (it being less cruel) which was to just wait them out, also my mum is 50 in August and had to deal with all of this. So now she is still paid like shit, just slightly less shit.
@lights473
Жыл бұрын
She wasn't being paid for not working? Oh the horror! Union cringe
@Cosmo054
Жыл бұрын
So she’s not working and not getting paid? And you think that’s unfair?
@user-10021
Жыл бұрын
@@Cosmo054 fr, not to bash the story but in europe you get fired for doing that.
@Cosmo054
Жыл бұрын
@@user-10021 Not in England (at least the school I was in). People really going on strike not working and like “Why am I not being paid?”
@user-10021
Жыл бұрын
@@Cosmo054 probably should've clarified EU. I think some branches like pilots and train conductors have a set limits of days each year they can use for strikes, I think it's 1-3. But anything after that and you're gone as it's a breach of contract. It's wild that some ppl get paid for doing nothing and even expect it. I could just take a job and immediatly go on indefinite strike, free money.
@drewc1738
Жыл бұрын
God I love everytime this man brings up his breathtaking frames in the hunger games
@longnutsilver4024
Жыл бұрын
It’s a pivotal moment in his career 😂
@Dan-ji4db
Жыл бұрын
Overrated performance
@sakuthesasquatch
Жыл бұрын
@Susnation532bruh you built like flat earth stanley
@berniejo5307
Жыл бұрын
@@sakuthesasquatch damn you didn't need to smack them that hard
@a_burr
Жыл бұрын
@@sakuthesasquatchbro fr has a video called touching grass for the first time
@Vode1234
Жыл бұрын
Glad that basically all creatives have come around. It hit us illustrators first but people finally noticed. You have a right to your face voice identity and creations. Don't let ai companies steal that from you. Consent Credit Compensation
@ryanclemons1
Жыл бұрын
That's the one thing i disagree with they are not stealing anything if it is already out there. If a story writer reads a story and takes Ideas from dozens of stories it's fine but a AI does it a "creatives" cry over it. illustrators are just made that one day people will be able to make something without being gifted the ability to draw.
@cyanisstinky
Жыл бұрын
@@ryanclemons1still stealing Also its not a gift ,it takes practice people take hours out of their day to draw
@ryanclemons1
Жыл бұрын
@@cyanisstinky Oh yeah the classic it's not a gift bull. I know for a fact it is maybe some can learn it but not everyone. I spent 10 years trying to learn to draw and still can't and now people are trying to take away my one chance to be able to make what I have in my head away! They can make whatever they want stop being greedy and let others also be able to make whatever they can dream up!
@FemBoyMDS
Жыл бұрын
@@ryanclemons1 No
@Rondobondohondo
Жыл бұрын
@@ryanclemons1it literally is stealing, Ai cannot make something creative, it just mixes and mashes whatever seems the most fitting according to whatever algorithm it has. People can make creative, individual works, even if they are inspired by many sources, AI cannot as it is by design not creative in any way.
@123mightywarrior
Жыл бұрын
Speaking of A.I., I saw a picture that was shared in a voice acting group on Facebook. It said that "the studio's A.I. proposal to SAG-AFTRA included scanning a background actor's likeness for one day's worth of pay and using their likeness forever in any form without pay or consent." It all makes sense now. 😤
@Mrhellslayerz
Жыл бұрын
It should have made sense nearly a year ago when AI won an art competition, a few months ago when AI was used for p**n on a streamer's friend, and recently when the voice for Futaba from Persona 5 was chased off the internet just for wanting her likeness to not be used shortly after her friend died. But I'm glad people are at least catching on now instead of not at all
@Miss_Palindrome
Жыл бұрын
What's interesting to me is what they see as "Training AI," is what would've been called "Blatant plagiarism," years ago, because it is. They're basically taking the Cliff's Notes of a writer's style to pass their book report, but instead of shirking school, they're stealing jobs and ruining lives. I love being an aspiring writer in this day and age. This gives me a lot of hope. (For anyone who couldn't tell, the last two statements were dripping with sarcasm.)
@nameredacted7622
Жыл бұрын
Biting someone's style is not plagiarism. In fact most art is derivative. Very few people actually innovate and create something unique in their works. AI is just the next step, the step that will allow people to get exactly what they want immediately instead of having to rely on people to provide what they want over the course of years. Hell sometimes artists don't even finish their works, just took at a song of fire and ice. I for one look forward to the day I can get on an AI website and have it spit out a 10 book fantasy series written in the style of Tolkien or Robert Jordan. I find no downsides to infinite and quick entertainment.
@marcusaaronliaogo9158
Жыл бұрын
@@nameredacted7622ah yes, more comparing of non sentient machines to sapient humans again.
@odenoki9571
Жыл бұрын
Ai isn't alive. It can't plagiarise. But I get your point - Ai is really the next big natural selection for humans. Only the clever, strong or lucky will prosper
@Hauntaku
Жыл бұрын
This is why AI should be banned from all artistic mediums
@graveyardoperations7407
Жыл бұрын
I am also an aspiring writer, but I wouldn't worry too much about AI, particularly ChatGPT, in this situation. Techbros be damned, AI can't do what humans can do. It's due to writers having a 'voice' in their works. A soft of subtle speaking through the written text that AI just can't replicate, because each writer's voice and style is different. AI Writing, in it's current form, is glorified fan-faction. Sure, in time, it'll get better at grammar and structure, but is writing in the creative sense ever about rigid, textbook definitions of 'THIS IS WHAT A BOOK IS!' It isn't. Code cannot replicate writing. Code cannot replicate art. And if these soulless corporate sleazebags think it can, then there's going to be a massive hit to their pocket as the next 100 shows they try to produce with AI-generated writing flop harder than a landlocked trout.
@leifalley7167
Жыл бұрын
this story has shown how little most people know about the difficulty in making a tv show/movie. im not gonna act like I've done it myself but my brain is wrinkled enough to know its a hard process lol
@akira8393
Жыл бұрын
i took classes in media industries, and im being honest it really isnt worth doing so. I learn from clonfishtv to always have a backup plan
@Chicky_Lumps
Жыл бұрын
I don't know much about screenwriting but I know I'd suck at it, because good writing doesn't just poop out because you want it to.
@akira8393
Жыл бұрын
@@Chicky_Lumps i mean now you can with ai and copy and paste from other media and called it a refference
@crazyinsane500
Жыл бұрын
Making a show/movie is difficult: But the writing teams aren't working has hard as everyone else. Velma was shat out in one afternoon, and everyone else had to scramble over Mindy Kaling's Magnum Opus. But the writers aren't fighting for the people who had to suffer to make that happen, they're fighting for Mindy Kaling to make millions off of Velma.
@shiannafoxx
Жыл бұрын
@@akira8393 You mean plagiarism?
@chrisdistant9040
Жыл бұрын
It’s frustrating and fascinating to see such a globally impactful industry deconstruct itself over greed
@rithvikmuthyalapati9754
Жыл бұрын
Same could be said for many other industries. Greed and unregulated industries are literally going to cause our extinction
@GravitasZero
Жыл бұрын
@@rithvikmuthyalapati9754-but, my unregulated capitalism! I don’t benefit from it one bit, but my brainwashed dumbass is going to defend it as best I can! How dare other fellow 99 percenters try to not live day to day. How dare they try to have a life worth living!
@iamcool544
Жыл бұрын
that is every single industry ever. You remember Red Delishous apples? You know how they now taste like absolute dog shit? Thats cause they WERE amazing but the stores wanted to be able to stock them longer so they bred them to last longer but have worst taste as a side effect. Now all Red Delishous apples are basically slightly sweet balls of wax that last for months.
@LuisSierra42
Жыл бұрын
Maybe Hollywood will stop making trash after all the dust is settled
@actually5004
Жыл бұрын
@@iamcool544 It's fascinating to see and not terrifying this time because writers produce no pragmatic benefit to humanity instead choose to monetize creativity and strip it from the masses by using media to convince people they need the entertainment machine they've created in order to be entertained instead of just realizing that imagination exists.
@vendetta543
Жыл бұрын
Let’s not forget his extremely crucial role as Officer Greg. Truly a heartbreaking performance,
@jessyfretz5800
Жыл бұрын
@bignosehighqualityvideoshe might be using a computer and still has a land line?
@mistcaller
Жыл бұрын
@@jessyfretz5800it’s a bot
@cameronliterally
Жыл бұрын
What are you gonna do, shut it down?
@azopanya7477
Жыл бұрын
@@cameronliterallyah that legendery line. Still gives me chills
@ichigokage
Жыл бұрын
The fact that AI is being used to even just write NPCs in video games is the beginning of a sickening slippery slope. All the higher ups are the ones who deserve the reality check. They can easily go making less to make sure their workers can do their job properly.
@zacknightthefifthking
Жыл бұрын
Imagine having such a severe case of brain rot that you prioritize the shows/ content that you consume rather than the people suffering behind it. Twitter will never fall short of awful takes.
@nyxxose
Жыл бұрын
All the more reason to abolish and avoid it.
@zacknightthefifthking
Жыл бұрын
@@nyxxose Never used Twitter, and every passing day is a new reason not to.
@angelmendez-rivera351
Жыл бұрын
@@nyxxoseMore like, all the more reason to let humanity go extinct.
@Anon999-qk3ue
Жыл бұрын
I hope this whole thing gets people in other entertainment industries thinking too. As a lifelong manga/anime fan, it took me a long time to realize how ridiculously overworked the artists and writers in that industry are. We're gonna see more and more series go on hiatus or even get cancelled because they just can't keep up or get burnt out on churning out the content.
@Flotaku
Жыл бұрын
I'd like to throw in my "business" into that as well: anime translation (in my case from Japanese to German). Through networks I know many other German manga/anime/light novel/video game translators and nearly all of them are getting more hopeless every year, because most of us also only barely make enough to "survive", but not necessarily to "live". It's a fight from month to month to pay the rent and thinking about pension/retirement plans is wasted labor, as we can't even fathom to save up any money, so Old-age poverty is guaranteed. A fight from deadline to deadline, some of us doing 60-80 hours a week to meet them, since we need to take 3-6 or 7 contract works at once or we wouldn't have enough income. Even some of our long year veterans lost all love they had for the medium and think about quitting to change to a safer job, that actually pays way more, since "passion" alone doesn't bring you the bread on the table. When asking for higher payments on a contract, in some single instances, we were also met with outright evil answers from the "higher-ups" of greedy publishers/companies. And that's the situation in Germany. Looking at some of the English anime translators and what they have to say about the situation in the U.S., in many cases it seems to be even worse for them, so I kinda hope, they also get into this (as they share similar fears to the writers and anger about the pay). Here, we are at least paying close attention to this strike and it's outcome
@Cubeytheawesome
Жыл бұрын
B-but I don’t want drama. I want peace
@zeppie_
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, the anime industry's problems are just Japanese work life problems. We should keep fighting for better conditions for artists, but changes need to happen in Japanese corporate culture as a whole in order to see lasting outcomes
@leeshapon
Жыл бұрын
@@Cubeytheawesomeok?
@thomasffrench3639
Жыл бұрын
This won’t happen. Manga authors don’t really have unions, and Japanese work culture doesn’t really make it easy.
@oni0nhed715
Жыл бұрын
The fact they are admitting out loud to being evil and thinking it's okay is mindbogglingly arrogant. Don't let them win. They don't deserve it.
@lakeguerra5602
Жыл бұрын
Nice to see an experienced actor finally talk about this
@PokeMarieee
Жыл бұрын
The comment I came here for
@memesimp3216
Жыл бұрын
Less we forget Charlie’s other, equally impressive role as Officer Greg in the award winning 2021 film “Last of the Grads”.
@MDGOLD
Жыл бұрын
@Susnation532i bet that touching grass video is fake lmao
@Its_Vendetta
Жыл бұрын
@bignosehighqualityvideosI know you’re a bot but you don’t need a phone to watch KZitem. Theres pc, any console, DS, and some tv’s for starters
@CynicalDriver
Жыл бұрын
I have to agree. Writers make a project successful far more than the actors who get millions and DO have the ability to seek royalties. Great actors can't make a bad story good, but great writers CAN make bad actors better! Yeah, I know that a lot of actors get input on writing and even have room to ad-lib while in the moment, but even the best actors can't just show up and make a great movie without a script.
@inkleef
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering this, as someone who wanted to work in animation seeing things get this bad for creatives in the industry is chilling
@LarusFotia
Жыл бұрын
Yeah... I'm about to graduate and receive a degree in animation, but seeing all this just terrifies me.
@dennismetzger9287
Жыл бұрын
Shook
@nomoretwitterhandles
Жыл бұрын
@@LarusFotia Stick to independent animation for now, and find a different arts job in the meantime (until conditions get better here). Or, hell, work for overseas animation studios. Japan's animation industry isn't amazing, but there are a handful of studios that treat their employees fairly well (such as Kyoto Animation). I've personally known a few American animators who worked on major anime franchises. Just because Hollywood is trash right now doesn't mean every industry is trash right now. Don't give up on your dreams, just... adjust them a little! (edited for clarity!)
@LarusFotia
Жыл бұрын
@@nomoretwitterhandles Yeah. Either way, I need to build a portfolio anyway so I need to start small first. Thanks though, that was really nice!
@drowsyvt
Жыл бұрын
@@LarusFotia This kind of stuff happens all the time in history, so it's unsurprising. Sucks, but unsurprising.
@doomstuck1241
Жыл бұрын
One thing I heard was that reason why movies now are often poorly written isn't due to the writers but executives and suits who say "No but we need this in it."
@Sadtv12
Жыл бұрын
6:28 "You can't just have a movie of fucking nothing" I mean Transformers and Fast & Furious exist so... (Memes aside I get the point, writers are generally the backbone of a good movie)
@lucacarey9366
Жыл бұрын
I think there’s a lot of resentment towards creative workers that’s bubbled up to the surface since the advent of ai; you can find similar takes when it comes to ai art as well. There’s a lot of repressed and unhappy people living lives of quiet desperation and if brings them glee to try and bring down those who are not living that way down to their level.
@Kaiserboo1871
Жыл бұрын
I agree that there is a resentment, but not like you described. There is a growing resentment for Hollywood as a whole. People are hating on everyone associated with Hollywood, everyone from writers, to directors, to producers, to studio boards, to actors, and to animators is getting some amount of hate. This hate comes from a number of areas. Some hate Hollywood for its continued wokeification of everything they held dear in the past. Some hate Hollywood for its not so subtle pedophilia ring. Some hate Hollywood who sees it as this massive bubble of rich people who are completely detached from the average American and yet feels the need to preach to them. Regardless, there is a rising wave of anti-elitism in America and the people that believe this see Hollywood and anyone associated with it as the peak of elitism.
@bewawolf19
Жыл бұрын
I would care more about the strike if the Hollywood people considered doing striking to stop the pedophile rings and open rape that permeates everything around hollywood. The fact that things such as Epstein or Harvey Weinstein was openly accepted by the same people crying about wanting more money now makes me unsympathetic.
@thecinemagician
Жыл бұрын
Massssssive respect to Charlie for keeping it real. I spent all this time training and growing as an actor, and im not about to just let it all amount to nothing. I want enough to survive, and if i make it big, yeah, I'll splurge, but im not just gonna dragon hoard it either. Keanu reeves absolutely nailed what they all should be doing.
@FBZOMBlES
Жыл бұрын
Find a real job, bud.
@alexthewrecker4666
Жыл бұрын
@@FBZOMBlESname checks out
@jakehero95
Жыл бұрын
@@FBZOMBlES relax they're working on it, bud. I know you wouldn't know this seeing as you're uneducated and never tried that hard your whole life but that's what it means to be training and growing towards something.
@northamerica5142
Жыл бұрын
@@FBZOMBlESRemember that actors and voice actors are the only thing that keep your precious tv shows and video games alive. You think acting isn't a real job? Okay, never see a movie or play a game again.
@FBZOMBlES
Жыл бұрын
@@northamerica5142 I don’t watch TV or movies. I’m not a loser like you.
@zeniascreativespace3890
Жыл бұрын
Artists to this day are in my view some of the most important people to ever walk the Earth. They remind us of so many things, including our power to create, and at the same time they are the most undermined and exploited group creatively speaking when it comes to companies sweeping in and abusing their talent for selfish gain, and then treating them like they are expendable. Maybe this event will help us finally realize the true value of artists and I hope that this pushes for change so that these writers and all artists are paid fairly and treated with respect that they deserve. Art provides us with so many things, including healing, and joy and deep introspection.
@whyllowfilms
Жыл бұрын
Yes! This!!
@Milkmouse1966
Жыл бұрын
The fact the Hollywood executives are trying to act like THEY'RE not already the desperate ones with how many working class people have tattled on them about being reached out to recently for work (while not accepting because they don't want to be scabs)is honestly almost funny. THEY need US, not the other way around, and they know that.
@gubgero
Жыл бұрын
My dad came to me today talking about this and saying the Actors were on strike. he didnt even know it had anything to do with the writers, so he was goin on about how he doesnt feel bad for the actors because they 'make 20 mil a year!' i didnt know anything about the strike so i just took his word for it. Now i know the truth and it makes much more sense.
@GilboPaints
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I have actor friends that can work consistently and still struggle to pay bills. It’s criminal how little they’re compensated in relation to what they help being in.
@shinigami1357
Жыл бұрын
“If I were to do a lay spread I’d look like a bat” is an INSANE LINE that I’m 100% using
@bagginshield8251
Жыл бұрын
Sadly this strike will do nothing. People are so easy to replace in Hollywood. If a writer or actor is on strike, Hollywood will find another star to take their place. Disgusting and horrible.
@zikame1332
Жыл бұрын
Charlie referencing his role in Hunger Games will NEVER get old🤣🤣
@PooSkids
Жыл бұрын
@bignosehighqualityvideos bro what ☠☠
@syrusalder7795
Жыл бұрын
God so many bots. This is awful.
@BlanksVT
Жыл бұрын
If there's bad writing then it makes good writing more valuable
@NoName......
Жыл бұрын
Who cares about writing a good story when good stories don't sell.
@Hauntaku
Жыл бұрын
@@NoName...... A bad story can be finished much faster than a good one.
@clausroquefort9545
Жыл бұрын
the writers being overworked and exploited perfectly explains why the movies have been so bad recently. noone had any heart and soul left to pour into their work, they had already arrived at a point where they were just doing their jobs.
@dalekrenegade2596
Жыл бұрын
Yet alot of people here are too selfish to understand that point.
@nevaehhamilton3493
Жыл бұрын
@@dalekrenegade2596 they don't deserve to be online ever
@OnlyGetty
Жыл бұрын
They said it best in Star Trek, with the Farengi Rom stating: "You don't understand. Farengi don't want to stop the exploitation. They want to become the exploiters."
@nickm5419
Жыл бұрын
Star Trek DS9 is Soo good👍
@goodvibes8036
Жыл бұрын
As an artist i can confirme that its not the artist working for studios that are making big money, its the directors and owners who make the big money. I really feel sorry for the actors and writers getting hit by AI. Hope it wil get better soon.
@ct5625
Жыл бұрын
The industry is going to contract, and we'll probably see the formation of independent studios stealing the best projects from the likes of Disney and Netflix by offering a new business model. There will be people out there who will be happy to start a studio and make $5m a year while paying their actors and writers a fair wage, we just need to look for them and back them.
@breadstick4458
Жыл бұрын
Hopefully we can find a way to use AI to help actors and writers without phasing anyone out. A lot of people can be overly against ai and while I get their concerns, it’s not something that should be just ignored
@josephreitzcomposer6855
Жыл бұрын
@@breadstick4458I can agree with this. I feel AI should be a choice. Like how Secret Invasion used AI in their credits. The animation you see in the credits were done by artists. The AI part was the weird movement of the animation. It was basically run through a glorified filter. Mike Shinoda from Linkin Park used the same AI for Meteroa’s 20th Anniversary. I’m still mostly against AI, but I do acknowledge there are some advantages to it in terms of enhancing the creative process.
@josephreitzcomposer6855
Жыл бұрын
@@ct5625I thought the same thing. That new studios will start popping up dedicated to compensating their artists better but also strictly regulating AI usage.
@2265Hello
Жыл бұрын
@@josephreitzcomposer6855across the spiderverse use of AI is a better example. secret invasion intro was just a thinly veiled excuse to get something passable to them for cheaper
@jbizzle6929
Жыл бұрын
You know it’s fucked up when Hollywood feels like a GTA parody more than the other way around, it’s wild
@lewiswilliams7031
Жыл бұрын
The only reason these studio execs can wait it out till the writers lose everything is because of all the money they have made them it’s really sad because it’s going to impact their personal lives dramatically
@karthis5911
Жыл бұрын
It's also because many of these shows and movies have been subpar for a long time now. If it's not making them money why would they want to invest more into it? It's better to save they money and use it in better projects tbh.
@nikelodeon6852
Жыл бұрын
This stems from the fact that the public doesn't know a single famous screenwriter unless that also happens to be the director like tarantino. Also since most of the time there are atleast 3 to 5 writers on a single script and their award is lumping them together as 'best screenplay'. Point is directors are almost as big celebs as actors now. But that hasn't changed for screenwriters.
@reizor5276
Жыл бұрын
I will never forget Charlie's performance in Hunger games, he just carried the movie himself and changed the whole Hollywood
@averyeml
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I had a genius in Discord try that particular checkmate on me, too bad he lacked the basic literacy skills to realize I’d already explained the issue right before. “WGA isn’t just asking for better pay, they’re asking to be allowed back into the writer’s rooms in bigger numbers and kept on-set for last minute fixes, they’re asking to not be replaced by machines or just brought in for initial drafts only to have future drafts or on-set issues fixed with machines or by whatever goober on set wants to try playing writer. This has been going on for a good long while now.” “Yeah, well TV has been bad for years so why should they get paid more?” “…should I repeat myself?”
@JV-ie4rh
Жыл бұрын
Hollywood being evil isn’t surprising from beginning to the end it’ll be like this.
@フフーガ
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I wonder (((why))) though
@aaronwatts7371
Жыл бұрын
If people really care about their shows coming back (barring the possibility of them caring about the people making them), they should really be siding with the writers if they wish for said shows to develop, at whatever stage they happen to be in.
@theletsplayer9503
Жыл бұрын
A story needs its writers as much as cars need their wheels. Sure, a car needs its engine, but a wheel-less car with an engine is a generator- you aint going anywhere. They're one of many key components of production, but theyre a pretty damn important one.
@JustAPersonWhoComments
Жыл бұрын
Charlie secretly confesses that he's been masterminding all the chaos behind the scenes while posing as a seemingly innocent helper in the dystopian film
@Jacksongirard
Жыл бұрын
Charlie is basically the news for so many aspects of entertainment culture. Thanks for bringing this up, im sure a bunch of your audience didn't know about this and in glad you brought it to their attention.
@Chuggsy22
Жыл бұрын
The problem with writing in movies has less to do with the writers and moreso with studio interference. Big names like Marvel will try and weed out people who are good on paper only to force them to write based on the studio's demands. This happens a lot in franchise films especially, where a studio will stop wanting to take risks in order to maintain the "status quo".
@akira8393
Жыл бұрын
i mean does the consistency includes of stories that make absolutely no sense at all?
@angelmendez-rivera351
Жыл бұрын
@@akira8393Your comments make no sense at all.
@akira8393
Жыл бұрын
@@angelmendez-rivera351 yeah i probably missed the auto correct. i already fixed it
@jacobgarcia5402
Жыл бұрын
8:57 Legitimately got scared when he said my name. also fuck the greedy. hoping for the writers and actors best
@TheBrolon
Жыл бұрын
Something tells me Charles was cast as 'District 8 Hospital Helper' in Hunger Games: Mockingjay pt. 1, which was a performance that utterly eviscerated any other actor or actress in the entire franchise. A performance so celestial and divine, that had the editor not made that grave blunder of cutting out most of his performance, Mr White would have not been awarded multiple Golden Globes and Academy Awards, but also a smooch from the queen, a hug from the main nursing home candidate and respect from his father! It's just a hunch, though, because nothing in this video indicates that he was, in fact, District 8 Hospital Helper in Hunger Games: Mockingjay pt. 1, and thereby elevated the quality and basically carried the entire franchise. Especially not in the beginning of the video!😳
@Imogenruse
Жыл бұрын
Watched Hunger Games last night and was most excited for the incredible performance that Charlie gave. He carried the movie.
@bigfloppa8887
Жыл бұрын
@bignosehighqualityvideosbro what the hell lol
@Hauntaku
Жыл бұрын
@@bigfloppa8887 Ignore the bots
@ItsNotFate
Жыл бұрын
everyone siding with the producers and then getting angry when they see how much their shows and movies have deteriorated is crazy to me yet you see it everywhere. Not only that but if the big wigs get what they want the stories are going to be garbage. IDK if these same people have ever tried to write an essay on something they didn't like in a short span of time but what I do know is shows are going to suck for a while moving forward. Until this all resolves.
@bewawolf19
Жыл бұрын
Did you forget that the Rings of Power exists? That is a show where the "artists" got effectively unlimited funding effectively minimal prouduction interference, and they only managed to make a souless turd that makes the Emoji movie look salvageable, since atleast the Emoji movie had good visuals. The with the shitty media these days is that Hollywood, the "Creatives" and the executives all can't create good content anymore.
@blackjackjester
Жыл бұрын
That sounds like market forces to me. If they replace the writers with AI and the quality drops, people aren't going to pay for it. If the quality goes up, then we know how useless the writers really were
@fluidthought42
Жыл бұрын
@@blackjackjester If AI is allowed into the industry it will become so prevalent a crutch for producers and studios that there will effectively be no alternative. There will be no market choice, just slop as far as the eye can see.
@elwinwinter
Жыл бұрын
@@bewawolf19One show bad therefore everything bad. What a wonderful argument.
@ItsNotFate
Жыл бұрын
@@bewawolf19 I know rings of power exist, but this whole system where you exploit the absolute crap of the lower workers will get us absolutely nowhere. AI is remarkable and one day it’ll take all of our jobs, however you can never truly take away the human spirit, and everywhere we’ve seen this implemented we’ve seen great pushback. People are demanding livable wages.
@TheEffectOfMass
Жыл бұрын
I want writers to be paid fairly and what they deserve. I'm just worried about their job security though if they get it. Trends are showing movies are flopping. (Charlie just had a video about this 2 weeks ago). If companies are losing money right now, employees demanding more doesn't seem like a good play at the moment. I feel like this is all a downward spiral.
@sofeyah
Жыл бұрын
Data literally shows that the more an employee is paid, the more satisfied they are within their job role, the business only benefits from this due to employee satisfaction being high
@nevaehhamilton3493
Жыл бұрын
@@sofeyah they higher ups know this. They enjoy making their lives miserable. This itself is miserable.
@WeAreTheQs
Жыл бұрын
As John Steinbeck once said, the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat, but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires. Gotta keep the rules favoring the millionaires because I’m gonna be one eventually!
@brokeboi-so3cw
Жыл бұрын
Yall remember when AI was supposed to take our boring jobs while we still got paid so that we could focus on more creative pursuits but now AI Is taking over all of our creative positions so that we only get to focus on our depressing cubicle jobs? Reading through a lot of these comments helps me realise that a lot of yall are just crazy. Maybe the reason your new hollywood movies sucks is because THE WRITERS DONT SEE A REASON FOR WRITING GOOD STORIES WHEN THEY GET LITTLE TO NO GOOD BENEFITS FROM DOING THAT! maybe your movies suck because theyve found it pointless to write stories in movies for a company that literally wouldnt care if they were murdered right in front of them?
@nathanvaughn9284
Жыл бұрын
I graduated with a bachelors degree in cinema and I intended on being a writer in December 2021. Now I'm working at Best Buy and planning on going back to get my masters degree so that I can be a K-12 teacher, because it seems like education is way more important now.
@returnedtomonkey8886
Жыл бұрын
7:58 Those are called traitors to the working class. Like landlords.
@shahdeen-en5qn
Жыл бұрын
Reject capitalism return to communism🐵
@naotohex
Жыл бұрын
People point out modern movies with shit writing not realizing that writers today are being squeezed and basically get that initial script and thats it. Before writers were basically a part of the larger movie creation as a whole, helping to fix parts of the movie and improve the overall product. Even disregarding crap movies they should be paid fairly, these corporations and their CEOs are making millions and billions without doing much of anything, its not fair how writers or anyone in the movie making business are being treated.
@Vaquix000
Жыл бұрын
Treating the writers well isn't going to suddenly get them to be allowed to write something creative and interesting. It's not just writing quality that sucks, it's the very idea of the movies - tired remakes and sequels to old franchises. Those with the money are cowardly fools that don't want to take risks so they're going to make sure the writers just keep writing fanfiction whether they are treated well or not
@asmophet
Жыл бұрын
Honestly the people arguing against the writers' strike on Twitter are probably just pathetic lobbyists.
@adarmus4768
Жыл бұрын
The claim that there are bad writers therefore all writers do not deserve to be fairly compensated is no different to saying there are bad actors so all actors do not deserve fair compensation. In fact it would be no different in any industry. I certainly have incompetent or lazy colleagues but that doesn’t mean I don’t deserve my $100k wage. I think a lot of people are against the writers strike for selfish reasons. It effects them directly through production delays on shows they like ergo strike is bad.
@blank-vj1mc
Жыл бұрын
When you’re a member of a union, that’s EXACTLY what it means. If you don’t want to be held responsible for the actions of other people, don’t create a coercive union that does nothing but protect the higher ups.
@karthis5911
Жыл бұрын
The problem is it's a union. So yes you are all lumped in with one another. These writers have cost the coperations a ton of money in recent years with bad writing and there asks are far more than just a pay increase that was agreed to already. They are forcing the corps to hire more writers (20+ on each show no matter how small it is and they need to be diverse too.), no AI at all to improve the industry among other asks that I disagree with (some I agree with.).
@scotaloo77g73
Жыл бұрын
It's just supply and demand. No one "deserves" anything, this is a job and not a charity. You're paid to provide a service and if there's tons of supply and low demand, you won't be paid much.
@ekathe85
Жыл бұрын
Remember that this is the same Hollywood that comes to lecture us about morality and equality and all that shit every award ceremony.
@maggie6152
Жыл бұрын
Updoot for you lol
@jonsnow6631
Жыл бұрын
Add to those arguments - "OH, let's just make AI write the stories!" Have you even tried doing it to see how bad its writing is?
@malevolentsnow9867
Жыл бұрын
People being unable to wait a little longer for their favourite show reminds me of little babies screaming when you take their favourite toy away for a time out.
@nevaehhamilton3493
Жыл бұрын
Or throw away their favorite toy away. Because that's exactly what's happening right now. We're losing good shows to this protest, and it is not benefiting anyone at all.
@sims8717
Жыл бұрын
The people who are mad at writers being on strike and the ones who lived in a bubble their whole lives. Spoiled and rotten, these are the people who in my personal opinion. Never got smacked by their parents.
@LilithCrimson
Жыл бұрын
I'm not an actor or writer but as someone who's facing losing their apartment with nowhere to go, I say keep going. It's gonna be tough but you deserve a base level of respect from these Hollywood leaches, and that starts with fair pay for your work.
@zerg6001
Жыл бұрын
Fair pay for their garbage work would be $0 in a lot of people’s opinion. If there is no demand for their product why would you pay them more?
@crypted9757
Жыл бұрын
@@zerg6001 it's almost like the quality of writing has gone down because the writers are being stretched thin and not being paid a fair amount
@redhotcheeto6648
Жыл бұрын
@@zerg6001what a stupid take
@erk1410
Жыл бұрын
Charlie took the words out of my mouth in the beginning
@I_like_big_bombs
Жыл бұрын
I've been noticing lately, maybe it's been going on for a long-long time. It feels like the companies I interact with and notice have been getting scummier and scummier. They have always been assholes, and greedy. They don't like pay increases, and they don't like competition. But I see worse and stagnating pay, worsening conditions, refusal to improve local working cultures to prevent office and workplace toxicity (whereas in my area they made the most MINIMAL effort before), every company I interact with seems to be less and less consumer friendly. Trying to get out of refunds, making worse and worse IT and customer help, removing basic features from products, raising prices and not raising value among other issues. Companies are less loyal than I remember them being (and they weren't before), and they no longer seem to be even attempting to put on a face of kindness, or care for the customer and their value. It feels like everywhere I go, I'm being squeezed.
@NoName......
Жыл бұрын
Late-Stage Capitalism. That's what it is.
@Sasu123456789x1
Жыл бұрын
I've been seeing that as well, apparently its been a long coming and it sucks...
@WholeHolyHole
Жыл бұрын
Number must go up to impress shareholders. Unfortunately infinite growth is impossible. What happens when you’ve reached every person on the planet? You cut costs, raise prices, and sell a monthly subscription for what used to be a one time payment.
@munchiekins
Жыл бұрын
I've been feeling this too..thank you for putting it into words
@I_like_big_bombs
Жыл бұрын
I dont think this is some "endless growth" problem. We still got space and resources left. Problem Id PRESUME is cultural. There has always been a problem of devaluation of humanity throughout all history. We arent even the worst. But it feels like now (in comparison to like 40 years ago) there is a particularly negative change in all areas. Worse parenting, worse school system, apathetic people everywhere, a now openly hostile political and financial class, and an open condemnation of a vague concept of "old ideas". You cannot rip the wheels off society and expect that society to go forward still. And we gotta value loyalty to each other, a proper sense of fairness for value put in and value deserved in return, integrity to do your job right and not take advantage of others.
@grabmynuts
Жыл бұрын
Some dudes take was "if AI can replace you, then you were never earning your place as a writer in the first place," and that was just.. heartbreaking to hear. Stupid people are the loudest, and it's just heartbreaking.
@akira8393
Жыл бұрын
I mean AI vtubers are already outshining the mediocre onces unless you count vshojo. Id say, he has a point there. the truth hurts but it's the truth.
@antbullaro6746
Жыл бұрын
truth hurts lmao they asking for more money when producers can get a better product for free
@xnSly
Жыл бұрын
yeah i mean not like ai is really gonna get stopped, if they stop ai development in the US then other countries will advance and you know that we dont like that, and same with every other country so when access to powerful ai is in anyones hands, what do you do? fall behind and go homeless? its not like a bandwagon thing where you're doing something horrible in this case, i do think its just a new phase in society and its a harsh reality, i feel for the people being hurt by it but there were these same struggles every major revolution we had, things change, people lose jobs and get new ones. think of all the times something big changed or was invented, industrial revolution removed the need for plenty of jobs and replaced with them new ones, the thing is about those times is that people could accept their new job as it was obviously a major upgrade, now people are skeptical of ai because of its potential implications and it impedes on peoples passions to their hobbys / careers. but at the end of the day, loving your job doesnt make it more important to society sadly. i don't think they should waste their time beating a dead horse, they can't truly stop the direction ai will take this all, they should focus on their future and what they can do to integrate into it but maybe im just delusional lmao
@taylorslade8080
Жыл бұрын
We artists tried to warn you, but you didn’t listen.
@justanotherguy7984
Жыл бұрын
Ai's don't complain about overwork, ai's don't strike for rights and ai's don't need to be payed
@casualcrusader
Жыл бұрын
"this is a necessary evil" i like how hollywood outright admitted that what they were doing was evil
@akira8393
Жыл бұрын
i mean some people say that characters that are doing the greater good is consider a complex characters..
@Kain1805
Жыл бұрын
In Hollywood there's way more evil shit going on, they don't care about this going public bcs they know they're gonna win anyway
@Miggy19779
Жыл бұрын
Time for the world to unite and boycott anything coming from Hollywood.
@ANPC-pi9vu
Жыл бұрын
Why do we care? Most movies and shows are shit these days in large part because of the writing. AI probably could do better, ffs. No one owes them a job.
@squidrex6264
Жыл бұрын
Well… they aren’t writers lol
@thereallemon6213
Жыл бұрын
The fact that people actually think making writers not want to write will improve writing is insane
@JustSomeDinosaurPerson
Жыл бұрын
Tbf, people have always done this to us even before AI. Can't tell you how many fellow writers straight up lost the drive to write after getting hounded by producers, board members, people on set, critics and then the audience after their mangled project somehow made it to the finish line. People really don't understand how genuinely awful it is to be a writer. Everything thinks they can do your job and that you are a worthless talentless hack riding the coat tails of some dead verbio artisan of "the finer ages". And if you ever complain, then you are just told to stop crying and suck it up lmao "Can't believe you can't take criticism" when the "criticism" is just being railed against 24/7 at any given moment like a child in an abusive household. It sucks.
@leerman22
Жыл бұрын
They've been writing things lately that people don't want to see anyways, so striking now is a big L. They should have been striking 5-7 years ago. It also doesn't help that lots of the picket signs are just cringe.
@sauceman5498
Жыл бұрын
Telltale sign of someone who was raised by an emotionally abusive parent but hasn't recognized or acknowledged it.
@JohnBrown-tw2qi
Жыл бұрын
@@leerman22”it’s kinda cringe that they aren’t letting studios starve them to death because I don’t like them”
@lucashunter6441
Жыл бұрын
They can get AI to write most things in a few years
@Ankou333
Жыл бұрын
Charlie will never let us forget about his legendary role in the Hunger Games 😂
@longnutsilver4024
Жыл бұрын
It’s vital to the history of the channel 😭
@MrMacchiato97
Жыл бұрын
@bignosehighqualityvideosyo 😂
@Zaimoeh
Жыл бұрын
No way ya'll breakin up in a youtube comment section
@Seagull425
Жыл бұрын
well it is the single most important role in cinema history
@Ankou333
Жыл бұрын
@@MrMacchiato97 it’s a bot it’s on a lot of the comments
@Jonathan_Collins
Жыл бұрын
The fact that the studios want to pay an extra for a day of work, but be able to scan their likeness and use their faces in their movies forever without compensation, or consent is evil. There's no other word for it. They get paid $187 for a day of work and the studios get to use their face forever and however they want. We used to make horror movies with that plotline and now it's a reality.
@kyvian251
Жыл бұрын
Nice Beastars pfp 😁🫡
@TrackpadProductions
Жыл бұрын
The irony is that most of the people striking have been in dire straits financially _long before the strike started._ That's the whole reason they're doing it - they're working difficult, stressful, full-time jobs, and often times still can't even afford _rent._ The idea that these studios will starve them out of the strike is pretty silly. Writers and actors will survive without studios. _Studios will not survive without writers and actors._
@adinosaur2708
Жыл бұрын
god damn your comment got attacked by bots
@billywashere6965
Жыл бұрын
@@TrackpadProductions Other way around. Studios will always find new writers or actors to fill in the gaps.
@EconomyCrashes
Жыл бұрын
Isn’t that literally a black mirror episode
@khayyamaurelius912
Жыл бұрын
The fact that the rich bosses have the audacity to say "Their demands are unrealistic, they want too much" while they MULTIPLY their income every year is baffling to me. MF you could never spend all your money if you tried to, what more do you want?
@Peachy_crow
Жыл бұрын
Infinite growth bb 🎉
@Zack-vi7is
Жыл бұрын
It's not about the money. It's about power. Giving an inch means they sacrificed a small bit of their power, that's what they're afraid of. Executives are tyrants. They want to control their workers as much as possible.
@jorgeperazapantoja7637
Жыл бұрын
They know they are not going to spend all of it they just want to hoard it because they can
@BlazingOwnager
Жыл бұрын
Most of Hollywood's writers are writing flop after flop after flop using every show like their personal virtue blog. That is undisputable if your head isn't in the sand. Compare movies that are free of that crap (Top Gun, Mission Impossible, John Wick) to virtually everything else at the box office. People are absolutely sick of it, and those writers will NEVER change. People like to get mad and scream it's ists, phobes and 'toxic people' but it's not. It's the mainstream audience. They stopped making movies and started making expensive rants.
@Zack-vi7is
Жыл бұрын
@@BlazingOwnager executives are ruining the writing with strict deadlines and a desire for mass appeal/following trends. Stop defending your corporate daddies. They don't care about you.
@zaqareemalcolm
Жыл бұрын
man it still blows my mind people even at the bare minimum can marginally care about art/consuming art, but don't give a shit or have utter contempt at its creators
@D3athL1vin
Жыл бұрын
that's the end game of "separate the art from the artist"
@MaztRPwn
Жыл бұрын
It’s the essence of the American Dream ideal really. “Fuck you, I got mine.” right?
@brunoqueiroz2759
Жыл бұрын
Almost everyone consumes some form of art, be it movies, music or video games.
@j.c.jeggis1818
Жыл бұрын
When you grow up with so much content being free, somebody asking you to pay for art seems shocking and greedy I guess. I make handmade clothes and people get legit angry at me for having the gall to charge more than a Chinese sweatshop. People just don’t get the idea of paying for labour anymore.
@tsitzel4949
Жыл бұрын
Maybe if they weren’t shit at what they did people would care to defend them, or maybe so many repeated box office bombs are all just happenstance.
@Shade2800
Жыл бұрын
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. Get EVERYONE involved. Animators and VFX artists have also had a bad history of not being treated well, so I say they should go on strike too. Hell, every facet of film production should go on strike. Make those pigs weep!
@kyuokuo
Жыл бұрын
Yup! Make em weep! Until you guys are weeping and hungry... Edit: By "weeping and hungry" I literally meant hungry. If they don't work they don't have money to do anything that would help keep the strike going. At one point they'll come to their senses and stop this child like tantrum they are throwing. Also, to all the people thinking that I meant that I couldn't go without watching a new movie or sequel, I already do that normally. Anime movies are far more plentiful if you look in the right places, mostly because they aren't acting like babies... Please spend some time on reading comprehension, ok? Maybe you can go support the strike after you learn how to read~
@RubbrDukki
Жыл бұрын
@@kyuokuooh noooo, the corporate entities won’t be able to give me my 5100000th marvel movie in a row, whatever will I do… People can easily go without watching movies for a while
@bruhsauce644
Жыл бұрын
@@kyuokuo most people watch movies like once every 3 months. noone is gonna be starving or weeping.
@123mightywarrior
Жыл бұрын
I agree! If those writers wanna get their statement across, they need to hit those greedy, apathetic executives where it hurts the most - their pockets! Show them that without them, the studio would collapse!
@adil0028
Жыл бұрын
@kokopium8003 and I don't blame those who take advantage and join, they need to live too
@am7846
Жыл бұрын
There was a recent incident where youtubers were accused of underpaying and overworking their employees. The proof was not very substantial, but concerning either way. It really shocked me to see the fans uncaring and unsympathetic in the case that they believed it to be true. The ex employees were shamed, ridiculed for working for them expecting proper pay. What you said about these kind of people made me realise I'm not the crazy one for wanting fair pay for my fellow working class lmao.
@lemonywater2979
Жыл бұрын
They'd pay me like $10 to write a 1500-word true crime youtube script. The channel consistently got 100k-300k views per video. Very cool.
@gavinziozios1431
Жыл бұрын
That's one of (many) accusations about iilluminaughtii right now. And unlike what you just mentioned, there's quite a bit of evidence to back that up
@am7846
Жыл бұрын
@@gavinziozios1431 Hey, didn't mean that YTer, don't know them. Still, sucks to see so many of them taking advantage of their power.
@gavinziozios1431
Жыл бұрын
@@am7846 I honestly don't recommend checking it out. It is a LONG rabbit whole
@samaeltheundying
Жыл бұрын
That's the case with the creator of Helluva Boss.
@dog7426
Жыл бұрын
As a film major I can confirm that Charlie’s performance in the Hunger Games is referenced in my textbooks more than Citizen Kane as the peak of cinematic quality.
@skaetur1
Жыл бұрын
Introduction to Hospital Support Roles 101
@redhotcheeto6648
Жыл бұрын
As a film major🤓👆
@furrybproductions
Жыл бұрын
I don't know why I read this at first as, "As a major film..." I must say, it's funnier that way. 🤣
@Stiggandr1
Жыл бұрын
Good luck with your student loans.
@meandtheithrees3898
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@sudopuff8549
Жыл бұрын
SAG joining in on this is a HUGE deal. Massive respect, and I hope their strike buckles the entire industry until they get paid fairly.
@Marxistnazi
Жыл бұрын
I hope that too. This is a sad trend in our society. And it's literally because we live in a last stage capitalist world. Corporations have way too much power over workers. Unions are busted. Child labor is being reinforced, wages are low, and the wealth income inequality is the highest it's ever been. That's only a few things that are problems. But the main problem is that workers have no rights, and corporations have all the power. I'd say the only way to stop this shit is a revolution. But I'm getting a little ahead here.
@crazyinsane500
Жыл бұрын
Why would the writers behind Paramount's Halo and Jersey Shore have any sway in negotiations? If anything, this is just helping the big corps sift the wheat from the chaff. Hollywood is filled with non-guild affiliated people working 9-5's, now's their time to shine.
@SamaelMoneyStein
Жыл бұрын
@@crazyinsane500 Exactly these people striking are industry veterans, let the little guy (me 😊) have a shot at that 20k a month i heard some writters get. 😃
@Lonech
Жыл бұрын
@@Bfkcjscbsnjc What is this schizo post
@koraary
Жыл бұрын
@@Bfkcjscbsnjcbruh you ain’t talking abt the right charlie here
@MisterVercetti
Жыл бұрын
This is the literal definition of serfdom. You'll work for whatever pittance your lords deem suitable, and if you rebel, they'll cut you off until until you're forced to come crawling back, at which point it's *_PUNISHMENT TIME!_* It's corporatism pushed to its logical conclusion, and the fact that the studio bosses are so flippant about it should deeply concern anyone who works in _any_ kind of corporate environment. This is your corporate overlords' message to you, loud and clear: *_y o u a r e e x p e n d a b l e , n o m a t t e r w h o y o u a r e ._*
@JNB0723
Жыл бұрын
Capitalism's progression leads back to feudalism. The only difference is the classes have shifted from governmental powers to the private sector, but the exploitation is just the same. The only major difference here is that a few lucky individuals in the early years of capitalism might be able to break through into the elites. Once it goes to far, and the wealth is claimed by the few, then any sector can be affected by them.
@porsche911sbs
Жыл бұрын
"The only difference as compared with the old, outspoken slavery is this, that the worker of today seems to be free because he is not sold once for all, but piecemeal by the day, the week, the year, and because no one owner sells him to another, but he is forced to sell himself in this way instead, being the slave of no particular person, but of the whole property-holding class." - Friedrich Engels (describing wage slavery)
@rayr6278
Жыл бұрын
It's a writer's strike. This isn't some industry that actually is integral to a functioning society like teachers, nurses truckers, or railcar workers. It's an industry of entertainment, of distraction, a culmination of the excess of Capitalism's decadence. As such, your critique falls somewhat flat, were it any other industry, especially of the working class, it would resonate more.
@starboypluto
Жыл бұрын
@@rayr6278railroad workers were striking earlier this year for bad work conditions compared to salary and benefits
@vitaminluke5597
Жыл бұрын
Every industry's workers should unionize.
@zaristophanes
Жыл бұрын
“Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made.” -J.R.R Tolkien
@SamaelMoneyStein
Жыл бұрын
Disney ?
@2-Way_Intersection
Жыл бұрын
raw
@Lilah81
Жыл бұрын
That’s not a real quote btw
@johnnybhd1094
Жыл бұрын
@@Lilah81it's a skewed misquote about the creation of orcs, but pretty similar
@lilliesandmilk
Жыл бұрын
Ok but what if I create the human smasher 9000? That would be new and evil
@jinalan3724
Жыл бұрын
Vox did a great video about it. Basically streaming service allows studio to exploit the previous agreement they made with the union. Where writers technically get paid accordingly, but they now write less episodes with less writers. Also they don't get residual income (rerun) from streaming shows, unlike working on long running network TV. It is easy to say "just pay the writers!", but there is a structural issue with the business model and it needs great effort to fix it until everyone is happy.
@JNB0723
Жыл бұрын
I really do not care about the happiness of these billionaires. If they lose their profit margins to help keep hundred of thousands of their hard workers employed, then I fully support it.
@abigailr1460
Жыл бұрын
yes, the fact that shows just get deleted off of streaming services, sometimes the only platform they're legally available, just to avoid paying residuals is absolutely disgusting. it screws over all the creatives involved, and the hard work they put into the project.
@chocolatetea3299
Жыл бұрын
The corporations have billions of dollars. They’ll live.
@gobagem6132
Жыл бұрын
They deserve less pay. Progressive propagandists don't deserve more pay for towing the line and destroying Western pop culture👍
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